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| 00:10.47 | zormit | I wonder where I read, that a GSoC student is supposed to work full time on the project. Can't find it in the FAQ |
| 00:11.34 | meflin | any internship is a full time job |
| 00:12.41 | gevaerts | ". While your organization may offer some flexibility around milestone completion dates, you should expect your project to be your primary focus this summer" |
| 00:13.01 | umccullough | students are being paid a stipend to work on the project, it's expected that they are not also doing another job at the same time |
| 00:14.03 | umccullough | if you are clearly not putting the time and effort into the project, you may be failed by the org mentors |
| 00:14.18 | zormit | ok, that is clear, but I am thinking about somethinkg like taking (some) courses at the university. |
| 00:14.36 | umccullough | well, a lot of people go to school while they work full time ;) |
| 00:14.42 | umccullough | "night classes" for example |
| 00:15.13 | gevaerts | zormit: I suppose the question really is, which would you drop if it would appear you can't manage both properly? |
| 00:16.22 | zormit | yeah, or if I take a 'vacation semester', to not have paying the fees. but then, if have to be enrolled, right? |
| 00:16.55 | gevaerts | Yes and no |
| 00:17.36 | gevaerts | You have to be enrolled, *or accepted* on 21 April, 2014 |
| 00:18.02 | zormit | i see. |
| 00:18.16 | gevaerts | So if that vacation semester starts after that date, or if you have paperwork to show you can go back after it, you're fine |
| 00:19.36 | zormit | ok. I have to think about it. maybe i come back to you. if have not searched for it yet, but do you know some (e.g. personal) statistics from students, that shows their workload? |
| 00:20.41 | gevaerts | I would assume around 40 hours per week, but there will be variation |
| 00:22.48 | zormit | thats also what I thought |
| 00:37.07 | olly | zormit: talk to the org you're thinking about applying to |
| 00:38.32 | olly | while trying to do a full-time job and gsoc together isn't a good idea, I'd expect most orgs are probably OK with other part time commitments if they're aware of them up front |
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| 00:39.26 | olly | if the first time we hear about it is as an excuse as to why you're behind, we're not likely to be impressed |
| 00:40.51 | perepujal | Last year my student started school at mid of GSOC, he warned us before and we were aware of that before selecting him, so... |
| 00:41.26 | olly | it's quite common for students to have exams near the start |
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| 00:41.45 | olly | last year the timeline was later, so starting classes again was more of an issue |
| 00:43.04 | olly | zormit: you can also plan to start coding early (during the community bonding period) if you have things like exams or classes during the coding period |
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| 13:47.56 | ThanosVas | hello there! I'm new to all this and i would like to know if i should get in contact with organizations at this moment, or wait for the upcoming projects first.Thank you |
| 14:05.57 | tachyons | ThanosVas, that is great , but not essential |
| 14:09.09 | metacode | Hi! How do I get started on the existing projects of last gsoc? I mean, the source code is pretty huge and I don't have any experience with large projects. |
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| 16:32.15 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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| 16:36.33 | Niharika1 | sips some tea. |
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| 16:37.56 | carols | hi Niharika1 |
| 16:38.12 | Niharika1 | Hi carols! :) |
| 16:38.15 | carols | :-) |
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| 16:52.41 | carols | hope everyone's working on their ideas pages :-) |
| 16:53.25 | Arthur_D | yep, we are. Not at this very moment but anyway ;) |
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| 17:00.17 | carols | serves some more and tea and coffee |
| 17:00.32 | carols | i'll serve lots of tea, maybe it will attract more visitors |
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| 17:01.34 | Niharika1 | :D |
| 17:02.37 | kshitij8_ | carols's regular tea should be added to the perks of being a part of GSoC. :) |
| 17:02.44 | carols | i agree. |
| 17:02.49 | carols | thank you kshitij8_ |
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| 17:03.58 | kshitij8_ | yw. :) |
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| 17:23.01 | vultraz | hands out Nutella |
| 17:23.53 | gevaerts | glares at vikraman |
| 17:23.55 | carols | thanks vultraz |
| 17:23.56 | gevaerts | glares at vultraz |
| 17:24.04 | gevaerts | sorry, vikraman ... |
| 17:24.06 | gevaerts | tab error |
| 17:24.06 | carols | why the glaring, gevaerts? :-) |
| 17:24.15 | gevaerts | I think Nutella is vile! |
| 17:24.19 | carols | oh, well |
| 17:24.27 | carols | then don't have any :-) |
| 17:24.45 | gevaerts | But I need to protect the world against it! |
| 17:24.54 | carols | nah, you don't :-) |
| 17:24.58 | carols | don't worry |
| 17:25.01 | carols | it'll be fine :-) |
| 17:25.20 | gevaerts | Oh, all right then! |
| 17:25.40 | gevaerts | goes back into hiding |
| 17:25.46 | meflin_ | tosses gevaerts a hasmat suit |
| 17:26.00 | gevaerts | Thanks! :) |
| 17:26.19 | vultraz | fine, you can have peanut butter |
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| 17:27.40 | Arthur_D | combine them, and you have Snickers |
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| 17:28.08 | Arthur_D | hmm well you need some caramel too I guess, but not too far off |
| 17:28.53 | gevaerts | And you need to get rid of the hazelnut stuff |
| 17:29.03 | carols | ...and a very nutritious breakfast to go with my tea. |
| 17:29.16 | gevaerts | Chocolate spread needs to be made from dark chocolate, without nuts! :) |
| 17:31.29 | Arthur_D | hazelnuts are delish |
| 17:31.41 | gevaerts | They are |
| 17:31.50 | vultraz | ew, dark chocolate |
| 17:31.50 | gevaerts | But not when mixed with milk chocolate :) |
| 17:31.52 | vultraz | too bitter! |
| 17:31.56 | vultraz | need milk chocolate |
| 17:32.02 | vultraz | or white chocolate |
| 17:32.05 | gevaerts | milk chocolate is not actually edible! |
| 17:32.12 | vultraz | it is! |
| 17:32.15 | vultraz | dark is not edible |
| 17:32.33 | gevaerts | hands vultraz some proper 99% chocolate :) |
| 17:32.51 | Arthur_D | both are edible, but 99 is a bit much |
| 17:33.01 | Arthur_D | I prefer more in the 70 percent range |
| 17:33.18 | Arthur_D | the darker the chocolate, the more thirsty I get though |
| 17:33.27 | gevaerts | I do agree there. 70 to 80 is best usually |
| 17:33.45 | gevaerts | Although a tiny bit of 90+ can be nice at times |
| 17:33.52 | vultraz | blegh |
| 17:33.54 | vultraz | need milk |
| 17:34.12 | vultraz | just like coffee requires a LOT of milk and sugar to be drinkable |
| 17:34.28 | Arthur_D | coffee is not drinkable anyway :P |
| 17:34.33 | gevaerts | looks for a a mob and pitchforks! |
| 17:35.06 | Arthur_D | tea for the win! |
| 17:35.21 | vultraz | Arizona iced tea for the win! |
| 17:35.34 | gevaerts | Strong coffee, without milk or sugar! |
| 17:35.48 | gevaerts | With a bit of dark chocolate :) |
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| 17:36.25 | gevaerts | feels safe in the knowledge that vultraz won't steal his food and drink :) |
| 17:36.27 | vultraz | bleghhh |
| 17:36.35 | vultraz | bitterfest! |
| 17:37.07 | Arthur_D | I can't stand coffee. But dark chocolate is fine |
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| 17:37.47 | umccullough | i can't stand dark chocolate, but black coffee is fine :) |
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| 17:38.22 | umccullough | of course, i tend to avoid chocolate altogether |
| 17:38.33 | Arthur_D | it's almost like people have different tastes ;) |
| 17:38.41 | umccullough | dang, i guess you're right! |
| 17:39.09 | Arthur_D | should change nick to Cpt. Obvious |
| 17:39.21 | umccullough | mostly, i just don't like sweet stuff |
| 17:39.36 | umccullough | and i don't drink coffee for its taste anyway ;) |
| 17:39.37 | Arthur_D | haha |
| 17:39.41 | umccullough | at least, not originally |
| 17:40.03 | Arthur_D | "hi there sweet stuff... I don't like you." See how well that goes with the ladies ;) |
| 17:40.42 | vultraz | ahahhaa |
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| 17:46.10 | umccullough | "Hi sweetie, you look lovely, and I won't be taking advantage of you" |
| 17:46.52 | umccullough | you also assume i'm male (which I am ;) |
| 17:47.35 | Arthur_D | well I did, for simplicity's sake, even though I guess I shouldn't |
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| 17:48.21 | Arthur_D | anyway I am against taking advantage of anyone |
| 17:48.56 | Arthur_D | t'was a joke :) |
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| 18:08.00 | umccullough | Arthur_D, i was just messing with you ;) |
| 18:08.33 | Arthur_D | hehe then you got me ;) |
| 18:11.57 | ace_striker | seems like tea did magic and channel is alive again.. |
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| 18:47.16 | Stefa943 | hey guys, regarding programming languages in gsoc projects.. are there any limitations? Let's say is it also possible to make project in Objective-C (iOS) or for WindowsPhone? |
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| 18:48.35 | scorche|sh | Stefa943: there are no restrictions like that - the mentoring org may impose their own restrictions though |
| 18:49.46 | d3r1ck | that is tru @scorche | sh |
| 18:49.52 | d3r1ck | i mean true. |
| 18:50.03 | Stefa943 | great, thx for the info! |
| 18:50.38 | scorche|sh | d3r1ck: well, i wouldnt think i would be trying to lie about something like that ;) |
| 18:51.14 | d3r1ck | yes |
| 18:54.34 | gevaerts | scorche|sh: so what *would* you lie about? ;) |
| 18:54.44 | scorche|sh | gevaerts: lying! |
| 18:55.08 | gevaerts | 's head starts spinning in contradictions and paradoxes |
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| 19:23.59 | carols | serves some mrs tea |
| 19:24.04 | carols | mrs tea? |
| 19:24.05 | carols | sigh |
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| 19:24.12 | carols | more tea. |
| 19:24.26 | meflin | heh :D |
| 19:25.28 | carols | meflin: do you think it's possible? do you think i've managed to answer all the questions, so no one has any? |
| 19:26.08 | meflin | I think they are all in a planning meeting dreaming up weirder questions for this year |
| 19:26.12 | carols | ah. |
| 19:26.14 | carols | ok. |
| 19:26.19 | carols | i accept that as more probable. |
| 19:26.30 | meflin | stumping carols is a big job and it takes planning |
| 19:26.42 | carols | well, i'll take that as a compliment :-) |
| 19:27.03 | carols | confusing carol, on the other hand, is quite easy and happens frequently. |
| 19:28.55 | meflin | it has been strangely quiet here seeing almost as many student questions at the org level |
| 19:29.32 | carols | i know... |
| 19:29.42 | carols | but good, i guess? |
| 19:29.58 | meflin | I still suspect and ambush ;) |
| 19:30.06 | meflin | err an |
| 19:30.18 | carols | prepares herself |
| 19:30.41 | carols | puts a colander on her head |
| 19:30.48 | carols | ready :-) |
| 19:31.04 | meflin | heh |
| 19:31.25 | meflin | best to stock up on chocolate |
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| 19:31.43 | carols | i've actually just bought some chocolate. so hopefully that will help out. |
| 19:31.59 | downey | Open Mrs tea? |
| 19:32.02 | meflin | its good as a distraction grenade, and as emergency rations |
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| 19:36.00 | carols | downey: i see what you did there |
| 19:36.14 | downey | O.o |
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| 19:38.19 | carols | downey: how's your ideas list coming along? |
| 19:38.25 | carols | i assume you're applying this year :-) |
| 19:39.29 | downey | carols: we've got something staged ... "Should" we decide to participate again this year ;-) |
| 19:39.38 | carols | ah, right :-) |
| 19:39.39 | meflin | hmm I should probably start poking sub-orgs to get there list no the wikki |
| 19:40.05 | carols | meflin: which sub-orgs? |
| 19:40.06 | downey | carols: it's been a bit more effort to get people thinking so early this year |
| 19:40.27 | carols | downey: i've found that as well. but then again, everyone complained when it was later last year. |
| 19:40.34 | carols | so i don't know how to make people happy. |
| 19:40.40 | downey | carols: folks will complain regardless |
| 19:40.41 | meflin | not sure I would have to check to see who's proactive or not ( pythony stuff ) |
| 19:40.49 | carols | downey: ain't that the truth. |
| 19:42.00 | downey | carols: I for one am happy about the longer bonding period |
| 19:42.25 | carols | i bet matthewwilkes, wherever he is, is happy about the delayed slot allocations too |
| 19:43.10 | carols | i changed that specifically because of feedback from him this year. |
| 19:43.14 | downey | !next |
| 19:43.20 | gsocbot | downey: "next" is February 3rd: Mentor organisation application period starts |
| 19:43.35 | downey | carols: delayed in what way? I forgot |
| 19:43.59 | carols | downey: in that orgs don't request slots until they've had two weeks to review applications after the deadline |
| 19:44.16 | carols | instead of a few days. |
| 19:44.18 | meflin | that will be nice |
| 19:44.18 | downey | carols: ah yes. I think that might be nice. We'll see I guess. |
| 19:44.23 | carols | yep. |
| 19:44.27 | meflin | I was on vacation last year at the time ;) |
| 19:44.30 | carols | make some *different* people unhappy |
| 19:44.35 | downey | Right |
| 19:45.30 | downey | I'll remind myself to not be unhappy |
| 19:45.36 | meflin | altho amusingly the friends I was visiting where also doing gsoc ... so all day we sat around on email/irc ;) |
| 19:46.01 | carols | ha! that's awesome in a sad way. |
| 19:46.10 | meflin | not your normal vacation day :D |
| 19:46.29 | gevaerts | What's sad about it? :) |
| 19:47.08 | carols | just...seems like if you're going to visit your friend you might interact with them in a way you couldn't do otherwise is all |
| 19:47.34 | carols | but, the doing gsoc part is awesome. |
| 19:47.36 | carols | so there you go. |
| 19:48.12 | gevaerts | There's nothing like visiting a friend and chatting on irc! |
| 19:48.18 | gevaerts | has done that too :) |
| 19:48.36 | gevaerts | It's a good way to confuse other channel regulars |
| 19:48.55 | carols | yeah, fair enough. :-) |
| 19:49.05 | meflin | its was a bit odd to be able to discuses slots/students face to face |
| 19:50.07 | carols | hopefully odd in a good way! |
| 19:50.18 | meflin | it was |
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| 19:58.38 | manikanta | hello |
| 20:00.18 | carols | hello manikanta |
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| 20:00.54 | carols | hi madrazr, long time no see :-) |
| 20:01.41 | madrazr | Hi carols, yeah! |
| 20:01.44 | madrazr | GSoC time :) |
| 20:01.51 | carols | well, almost :-) |
| 20:01.54 | carols | still what, 4 days? |
| 20:02.03 | carols | checks melange |
| 20:02.13 | madrazr | checks melange too |
| 20:02.15 | carols | 4 days 22 hours melange says. |
| 20:02.50 | madrazr | carols: yeah, very close! |
| 20:02.55 | carols | yep. |
| 20:03.00 | carols | is melange ready? :-) |
| 20:03.21 | manikanta | hello everyone ! |
| 20:03.31 | carols | hello manikanta |
| 20:03.35 | manikanta | I'm a newbie....just trying to get some information... |
| 20:03.39 | carols | anything we can help you with, or just saying hello? |
| 20:03.44 | carols | sure, what would you like to know? |
| 20:04.02 | madrazr | carols: Almost. We are getting there. But you know, there are always last moment things :) |
| 20:04.15 | carols | madrazr: indeed i do. all too well ;-) |
| 20:04.26 | madrazr | carols: :) |
| 20:05.16 | manikanta | can we submit more than one proposals ? |
| 20:05.36 | carols | manikanta: you're a student? |
| 20:05.41 | manikanta | yeah |
| 20:05.49 | manikanta | I'm a student :) |
| 20:05.54 | manikanta | are you a mentor ? |
| 20:06.00 | carols | manikanta: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#6._Can_a_student_submit_more_than_one |
| 20:06.06 | carols | no, i'm the program administrator. |
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| 20:07.29 | manikanta | yeah I know that we can work only one project , I'm just asking whether we submit 2-3 proposals so that atleast one may be selected :) |
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| 20:08.09 | carols | did you read the whole answer to the question? |
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| 20:08.18 | carols | "Yes, each student may submit up to five proposals." |
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| 20:08.27 | carols | first sentence of the link i gave you. |
| 20:08.54 | manikanta | yeah I read that , thanks for the info :) |
| 20:09.01 | carols | yw :-) |
| 20:09.24 | manikanta | I heard that this time there will be a student/mentor summit ? am I right ? |
| 20:09.40 | carols | indeed you are. |
| 20:09.46 | manikanta | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.58 | manikanta | is that a full paid trip or just an invitation ? |
| 20:10.05 | carols | just an invitation. |
| 20:10.13 | carols | i know, 10 years goes by so fast :-) |
| 20:10.32 | manikanta | ok sir :) ! |
| 20:10.43 | carols | it's ma'am |
| 20:10.44 | gevaerts | manikanta: that was a mistake :) |
| 20:10.47 | carols | but you're welcome :-) |
| 20:10.58 | carols | or miss. |
| 20:11.01 | carols | miss works too. |
| 20:11.04 | manikanta | I'm so sorry ma'm :/ ! :D |
| 20:11.12 | carols | that's fine. |
| 20:11.15 | gevaerts | It's Mrs Tea, I believe ;) |
| 20:11.25 | carols | gevaerts: indeed :-) |
| 20:11.38 | carols | just not "sir." |
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| 20:11.50 | downey | Thank you ma'am |
| 20:11.55 | downey | I mean sir |
| 20:12.06 | carols | haha |
| 20:12.18 | carols | we'll see about that application, downey ;-) |
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| 20:12.45 | downey | raises the "tribute to carols" section above the fold |
| 20:12.52 | carols | haha |
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| 20:13.56 | downey | opens his MRS tea |
| 20:14.09 | manikanta | Ma'm sorry if I'm asking unnecessary questions , but I just want to clear them out....what will google get if it supports this OpenSource ? |
| 20:14.27 | manikanta | spending lot of money ... :D |
| 20:14.35 | carols | manikanta: google gets to support open web, open technologies, and FOSS. |
| 20:15.06 | carols | and i get to have tea with a bunch of my friends :-) |
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| 20:15.44 | downey | Really happy cdibona approved the increased irc tea budget |
| 20:16.08 | carols | me too. |
| 20:16.16 | carols | it wasn't easy, but i got there. |
| 20:16.27 | downey | Longer season = more tea |
| 20:16.41 | carols | yep. |
| 20:16.48 | carols | it's required. |
| 20:17.10 | downey | Maybe I'll open a melange feature request to replace stars with teacuos |
| 20:17.10 | manikanta | are you from us ? |
| 20:17.17 | downey | Teacups. |
| 20:17.30 | carols | manikanta: you mean the united states? yes. |
| 20:17.39 | manikanta | yeah USA :) |
| 20:17.49 | carols | but one of the things i love most about gsoc is that it's international :-) |
| 20:17.55 | carols | brings together people from all over the world. |
| 20:18.13 | manikanta | yeah ma'm , thats the reason we're having chat here :) |
| 20:18.37 | carols | yep, indeed. |
| 20:18.41 | manikanta | thats now good things are developed , being international :) |
| 20:18.49 | manikanta | *thats how ! |
| 20:18.50 | downey | It's always more fun when it's easier to say where your project is NOT rather than where it is currently |
| 20:19.17 | carols | agrees with downey |
| 20:19.47 | downey | manikanta: where are you from? |
| 20:19.51 | manikanta | India :) |
| 20:20.00 | manikanta | heard about it ? :D |
| 20:20.06 | downey | manikanta: cool, I have ;-) |
| 20:20.39 | manikanta | I'm sorry to ask this , downey -- sir or ma'm :) |
| 20:21.02 | carols | manikanta is being careful now with the titles :-) |
| 20:21.13 | downey | manikanta: I'm male, but you can just call me downey, informally ;-) |
| 20:21.58 | manikanta | okay :) I got some clarity now |
| 20:22.20 | manikanta | you guys know about pgrouting I guess ? |
| 20:22.28 | carols | the more interesting question to ask downey is where he is, he might be anywhere in the world right now :-) |
| 20:22.47 | carols | i don't know anything about pgrouting, including what it is. |
| 20:22.54 | manikanta | oh nice , where are you sir...right now ? |
| 20:23.14 | manikanta | its a mentoring organization under osgeo |
| 20:23.17 | downey | is with his cup of tea, which is all it takes to feel like "home" |
| 20:23.44 | manikanta | both of you work in google ? |
| 20:24.36 | carols | downey doesn't work for google, unless there's something he hasn't told me :-) |
| 20:24.48 | carols | but i do. |
| 20:25.00 | manikanta | thats awesome :D I heard cracking google interview is very tough... |
| 20:25.33 | manikanta | google mtv ? |
| 20:25.38 | carols | google san francisco. |
| 20:26.06 | manikanta | nice :D |
| 20:26.29 | manikanta | I had a dream to visit US :D |
| 20:27.07 | carols | well, i hope it comes true for you :-) |
| 20:28.20 | manikanta | if it is full paid trip we may have some chance :D its in your hands... organizers |
| 20:28.40 | manikanta | though we have to get GSoC first :) |
| 20:28.43 | carols | you mean us paying for it? we're not paying for any students to come to the us. |
| 20:29.56 | manikanta | yeah , we were thinking that if google is arranging a trip it wont be without full paid ....but I just got to know reality |
| 20:30.40 | manikanta | feeling sad :-( |
| 20:31.18 | akki | where are u frm manikanta? |
| 20:31.41 | manikanta | where are you from akki ? |
| 20:31.47 | Darrel | my personal impressions are that it isn't all that costly to go to the US (at least from an european country), but getting a visa is more of a pain |
| 20:31.52 | akki | ahmedabad |
| 20:31.59 | downey | doesn't work for google, unless there's something google hasn't told me :-) |
| 20:32.14 | Darrel | hehe |
| 20:32.16 | manikanta | hyderabad |
| 20:33.06 | manikanta | there is a lot of difference btw european countries and india :) |
| 20:33.30 | RoonyH | are gci grand prize winners' trips sponsored by Google? |
| 20:34.35 | carols | RoonyH: indeed they are. |
| 20:34.58 | carols | for the winning students + a parent or guardian. |
| 20:35.41 | RoonyH | carols: Cool :) |
| 20:35.47 | carols | :-) |
| 20:35.50 | downey | carols: do you know if OSPO is planning any OSCON submissions or sponsored talks this year? |
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| 20:36.18 | carols | downey: i know for sure that we've submitted the proposal for our OSPO update with myself and chris and shawn and stephanie... |
| 20:36.29 | downey | carols: great. :) |
| 20:36.42 | carols | and i believe that nathaniel from melange also submitted a proposal? |
| 20:36.44 | carols | maybe? |
| 20:39.01 | downey | so much travel, so little time |
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| 20:39.40 | manikanta | where do you live downey ? |
| 20:39.48 | downey | manikanta: I'm from Florida, USA |
| 20:40.34 | carols | ..where it's snowing |
| 20:40.40 | carols | ! |
| 20:40.53 | manikanta | so you too belongs to the organizers team ? |
| 20:40.57 | downey | actually today i'm somewhere much colder, looking for a "Google @ IUPUI" event that seems to have been vaporware |
| 20:41.04 | manikanta | snowing :D nice |
| 20:41.23 | downey | manikanta: In the past I've helped to organize my open source project's participation in previous years' GSoC's |
| 20:41.33 | manikanta | name ? |
| 20:42.02 | downey | manikanta: my project is called OpenMRS, we're in the #openmrs channel here on Freenode IRC if you'd like to learn more about it |
| 20:42.46 | manikanta | Michael Downey :D |
| 20:42.49 | manikanta | https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Home |
| 20:42.52 | manikanta | here it is :D |
| 20:43.54 | manikanta | so this year are you applying ? |
| 20:44.51 | carols | yeah, are you applying this year, downey? :-) |
| 20:45.18 | downey | I guess we'll find out by the middle of February :) |
| 20:45.51 | manikanta | Downey sir , is there a chance for us to work with you ? |
| 20:46.10 | downey | manikanta: If you come to chat with us in #openmrs we can find out ;-) |
| 20:46.21 | downey | carols: i tend to try to avoid doing anything more than 7 times in a row |
| 20:46.30 | downey | carols: but sometimes exceptions can be made |
| 20:46.33 | carols | downey: oh? |
| 20:46.40 | carols | that doesn't bode well ;-) |
| 20:46.55 | manikanta | so you're doing it from 7 years :D ? |
| 20:46.56 | downey | sometimes there are worthy causes, etc |
| 20:46.57 | gevaerts | downey: waking up? :) |
| 20:47.13 | downey | gevaerts: well, waking up early anyway! |
| 20:47.21 | downey | saturday++ |
| 20:47.26 | gevaerts | Ah, good point! |
| 20:47.55 | gevaerts | has had a birthday every year for at least the past seven years! |
| 20:48.26 | downey | I've been known to skip birthdays to "re-do" years |
| 20:48.44 | downey | (really good years ... or really bad ones!) |
| 20:48.50 | gevaerts | :) |
| 20:48.57 | carols | is still of the opinion that if you get sick on vacation or your birthday you should get an automatic do-over |
| 20:48.59 | akki2200 | Ah one of the ways to stay younger |
| 20:49.14 | downey | carols: worst is when you take a vacation day on your birthday, then you get sick |
| 20:49.20 | carols | seriously. |
| 20:49.24 | carols | that is the worst. |
| 20:49.37 | downey | my company has set my birthday as an official company holiday |
| 20:49.51 | carols | that's very nice of them. |
| 20:50.01 | downey | carols: i wrote a thank you letter to myself |
| 20:50.07 | carols | how very... |
| 20:50.10 | carols | nice? |
| 20:50.16 | carols | meta? |
| 20:50.18 | carols | :-) |
| 20:50.42 | downey | just about as meta as most "board meeting" documentation i have to do |
| 20:51.05 | downey | US laws are very strange some times ... e.g. giving myself permission to open a bank account for myself |
| 20:51.31 | meflin | you should vote no randomly |
| 20:51.36 | carols | you could just stop at the "US laws are very strange" |
| 20:51.49 | downey | meflin: i wonder what would happen if i vote myself out, being the only member |
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| 20:57.56 | downey | hmm, tea is cold |
| 20:58.19 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
| 20:58.27 | carols | it needed to be refreshed anyway. |
| 20:59.19 | downey | carols: any more news about this giant 10 year GSoC shindig at the Sheraton San Jose? |
| 20:59.34 | carols | downey: more news than that? no. |
| 20:59.42 | carols | but that's certainly a lot already is it not? :-) |
| 21:00.24 | downey | well, still lots to presume, like the year it will happen :-P |
| 21:00.29 | downey | has presumed this year |
| 21:01.33 | carols | ah, yes, it will be this year :-) |
| 21:01.42 | carols | and the date is already on the gsoc calendar... |
| 21:01.48 | carols | so that's even more information! |
| 21:02.25 | downey | oh good ... shindig == mentor summit |
| 21:02.35 | carols | yeah, it's a combined mentor summit and student reunion. |
| 21:02.44 | carols | but the specific details are still being worked out. |
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| 21:03.41 | downey | just as long as a campus tour is involved. |
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| 21:03.55 | downey | ducks |
| 21:04.01 | gevaerts | \_o< |
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| 21:04.32 | carols | downey: well. you joke, but if it's going to be as big as we're anticipating we may actually have some folks doing tours. |
| 21:04.34 | carols | not me. |
| 21:04.36 | carols | but someone. |
| 21:04.37 | olly | gevaerts: man with antlers drowning? |
| 21:04.38 | carols | :-) |
| 21:04.56 | downey | milpitas looks *so close* on google maps ... |
| 21:05.37 | gevaerts | olly: it could so easily have been :) |
| 21:05.56 | downey | (until you turn on the traffic layer) |
| 21:06.09 | carols | downey: how true. how true. |
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| 21:06.55 | downey | imagines some students will want a tour of carols desk |
| 21:07.08 | carols | that would be funny. |
| 21:07.14 | carols | "and here's my monitor." |
| 21:07.18 | gevaerts | wonders why he read "desk" as "duck" |
| 21:07.20 | carols | "and yes, these are my pens" |
| 21:07.22 | downey | "and here is where all these payment cards that get returned sit and wait for correct addresses" |
| 21:07.37 | carols | those aren't at my desk though ;-) |
| 21:07.45 | meflin | well we all want to see the chocolate drawer and the tea drawer |
| 21:07.49 | paultag | nom |
| 21:08.22 | downey | carols: it would be quite the photo op for some, i'm sure |
| 21:08.26 | carols | meflin: good point :-) |
| 21:08.33 | olly | carols' desk is in fact entirely made of chocolate left over from the mentor summit |
| 21:08.35 | downey | also, +1 for colored lanyards |
| 21:08.38 | paultag | yeah |
| 21:08.40 | paultag | that was nice |
| 21:08.47 | downey | carols desk will wear a red lanyard |
| 21:08.54 | carols | yep. |
| 21:09.19 | downey | if i'm wearing google glass again, i might go for red next time. |
| 21:09.44 | downey | wearing it at my wedding created way too many questions & photo posing |
| 21:09.49 | scorche|sh | carols: is it also a mentor reunion? =) |
| 21:10.16 | carols | scorche|sh: it is. |
| 21:10.19 | carols | it is all things. |
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| 21:10.27 | scorche|sh | \o/ |
| 21:10.48 | scorche|sh | i have moaned far too many times in here about missing mentor summits |
| 21:10.59 | meflin | have you considered that if you get enough gsoc'ers into 1 building that you might form a black hole? |
| 21:11.19 | downey | http://i.imgur.com/K7PWiF0.jpg |
| 21:11.32 | gevaerts | meflin: recent rumours say that black holes don't exist, so we may be safe |
| 21:11.50 | downey | gevaerts: i'm not sure i can trust hawking any more |
| 21:11.54 | meflin | but what if we decided to build one there? ;) |
| 21:12.12 | carols | scorche|sh: well, this year if you can come, you are invited :-) |
| 21:12.26 | scorche|sh | =D |
| 21:13.27 | scorche|sh | it has been far too long since I had extremely insightful conversations in Casablanca (though this sounds to be a bit of a different things) |
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| 21:14.00 | carols | those are my favorite parts of the summit. |
| 21:14.04 | gevaerts | Casablanca is for building lego sierpinski triangles, not for conversations! |
| 21:14.16 | carols | gevaerts: or both ;-) |
| 21:14.24 | downey | scorche|sh: you must remember this ... a hershey's kiss is just a kiss |
| 21:14.52 | scorche|sh | i...dont? |
| 21:14.53 | gevaerts | carols: all right. The upside down triangle I tried collapsed quite quickly anyway :) |
| 21:14.57 | meflin | hmm your going to need a larger chocolate room |
| 21:15.08 | downey | chocolate ballroom |
| 21:15.11 | carols | gevaerts: hehe :-) |
| 21:16.00 | scorche|sh | downey: still not getting it... |
| 21:16.30 | downey | scorche|sh: Casablanca ... Chocolate Room ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Bfeh4vrek |
| 21:16.49 | downey | goes for more tea |
| 21:16.50 | scorche|sh | ah |
| 21:16.55 | scorche|sh | does too |
| 21:19.42 | manikanta | song is awesome ;p |
| 21:19.43 | manikanta | :p |
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| 21:40.40 | carols | ...quiet again |
| 21:40.45 | carols | guess that was the rush :-) |
| 21:41.40 | Arthur_D | we are so humble and quiet ;) |
| 21:42.08 | carols | indeed! |
| 21:42.16 | carols | i guess all your questions are answered now |
| 21:43.00 | Arthur_D | yeah... at least for now, since the project I'm at did this last year we now have some experience |
| 21:43.15 | Arthur_D | so not as many questions this time around :) |
| 21:43.39 | carols | well, that's good :-) |
| 21:43.45 | carols | good news for everyone, actually |
| 21:45.27 | Arthur_D | yes, hopefully things will go even smoother this time around |
| 21:45.42 | Arthur_D | it did go well last year, though we could always improve |
| 21:46.29 | carols | always improving. |
| 21:46.36 | carols | i try to improve gsoc and the program each year, too. |
| 21:47.58 | Arthur_D | it was surprisingly early this year |
| 21:48.30 | Arthur_D | feels like we just merged last year's GSoC work |
| 21:48.38 | carols | well, other people said it was surprisingly late last year. |
| 21:49.01 | carols | and then the australians told me that the program name is wrong. |
| 21:49.07 | carols | so everyone's equally unhappy :-) |
| 21:49.15 | Arthur_D | lol |
| 21:49.17 | meflin | this has been carefully to make all the unhappy! |
| 21:49.22 | Arthur_D | what is wrong with the name? |
| 21:49.23 | meflin | err carefully crafted |
| 21:49.33 | carols | Arthur_D: it should be "winter of code" |
| 21:49.35 | olasd | Arthur_D: it's only right for the northern hemisphere |
| 21:49.40 | Arthur_D | ah right :D |
| 21:49.52 | Arthur_D | details, details |
| 21:50.06 | meflin | $Season of code! |
| 21:50.07 | carols | ..and yet we still see great participation from australia every year. |
| 21:50.12 | carols | so we must be doing something right. |
| 21:50.22 | Arthur_D | it was probably just our perception because last year was our first |
| 21:50.33 | Arthur_D | so this year it felt early |
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| 21:50.50 | carols | Arthur_D: it's actually pretty in line with most years that it's been run. |
| 21:50.56 | carols | it's a bit earlier, but not by much. |
| 21:50.59 | carols | only a couple weeks. |
| 21:51.05 | Arthur_D | ok, sounds fine |
| 21:51.08 | carols | it's just that last year was very late. |
| 21:51.18 | Arthur_D | and really it is not a problem for us |
| 21:51.48 | Arthur_D | we just spent quite a bit of time before we could merge the previous work so it feels like it |
| 21:51.49 | olasd | this conversation reminds me that I should put up a call for projects for Debian... |
| 21:51.59 | carols | olasd: a great idea! |
| 21:52.01 | Arthur_D | ...s GSoC all year around ;) |
| 21:52.05 | carols | i hope more orgs are doing that right now |
| 21:52.06 | paultag | olasd++ |
| 21:52.24 | olasd | carols: being squeezed by work and fosdem doesn't help much, but yeah |
| 21:52.25 | olasd | :D |
| 21:52.39 | carols | olasd: i understand! cat's on a plane to fosdem right now |
| 21:53.11 | olasd | currently working on talk slides |
| 21:53.24 | carols | cool, what are you talking about? |
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| 21:54.11 | olasd | fedmsg (https://fosdem.org/2014/schedule/event/fedmsg), a unified event notification bus for distro infrastructures |
| 21:54.34 | paultag | fedmsg rules. |
| 21:54.58 | carols | nice. |
| 21:55.04 | carols | hope it goes well! |
| 21:56.04 | FireFly | As (hopefully) a potential student, I'm happy it's earlier this year |
| 21:57.26 | olasd | I can't disagree with that. the student I mentored on fedmsg last year started classes at the beginning of september (expectedly) and his output dropped a lot at that point |
| 21:57.51 | carols | FireFly: i'm glad to hear from a student who's glad it's early :-) |
| 21:57.52 | olasd | but, well, I guess it depends |
| 21:58.57 | olasd | obviously you can't please everyone at any given point, so it's good that it moves from year to year, gives more students a chance to participate |
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| 22:00.42 | carols | olasd: my sentiments exactly. |
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| 22:02.37 | olasd | even if it surprises the admins (although this year we can't say that the schedule wasn't published in advance :D) |
| 22:03.17 | carols | in october even! |
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| 22:04.09 | olasd | .oO(too early? :P) |
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| 22:27.03 | carols | olasd: everyone's a critic :-P |
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| 22:30.25 | downey | i'd like to complain about the honey served with the tea ... it is raw but still filtered so it loses nutritional value. i'd propose we get raw *and* unfiltered honey for tea when this batch runs out :P |
| 22:30.32 | downey | ran out of things to complain about.... |
| 22:32.54 | perepujal | downey: you could mix a small quantity of wax to the honey, this will make it more authentic ;) |
| 22:33.11 | downey | perepujal: i suppose, but it's still not the same :-P |
| 22:33.39 | carols | plugs her ears |
| 22:33.54 | downey | also the stirring sticks are not compostable |
| 22:33.55 | gevaerts | complains about the quality of downey's complaints |
| 22:33.56 | downey | :-P |
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| 22:42.00 | carols | ha! complaining about the quality of complaints. |
| 22:42.01 | carols | nice. |
| 22:42.12 | gevaerts | We do our best :) |
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| 22:53.35 | downey | gevaerts: i'd like to complain about your complaint quality complaint, in that it didn't address the deficient quantity of our complaints |
| 22:54.39 | gevaerts | downey: are you saying we have too many complaints, or not enough? :) |
| 22:56.32 | downey | gevaerts: well if we had a complaint tracker, we could know if we're on target or behind :) |
| 22:57.01 | gevaerts | downey: if you think we don't have enough complaints, I don't see how you can complain about me complaining! |
| 22:57.23 | downey | gevaerts: if we didn't, then my complaint about not knowing would help the cause :) |
| 22:58.27 | carols | this is getting very meta |
| 22:58.32 | carols | you guys must be bored :-) |
| 22:59.15 | gevaerts | You think? :) |
| 22:59.52 | meflin | its because gsoc has been insufficiently entertaining today I lodge my protest :D |
| 23:00.30 | carols | right! |
| 23:00.33 | carols | that makes sense |
| 23:00.35 | carols | :-P |
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| 23:09.20 | downey | meflin: i disagree :) |
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| 23:18.17 | bitgeeky | hi I am a Mozilla contributor , i have a project idea which the team I am working with thinks is worth implementing , also one of the team members is ready to mentor me , so the thing I want to ask is that can I apply for GSOC directly on melange website when the student application starts ? |
| 23:19.40 | carols | bitgeeky: um, i think i need some more info |
| 23:19.42 | carols | you're a student? |
| 23:19.45 | bitgeeky | yes |
| 23:19.48 | bitgeeky | carols |
| 23:20.00 | carols | ok, then the first thing that needs to happen is mozilla needs to apply and be accepted :-) |
| 23:20.20 | carols | and then, assuming they are accepted as a mentoring organization, you would apply to work on a project for them at that point. |
| 23:20.36 | carols | and then they decide if they like the idea and want to accept you for the summer. |
| 23:21.10 | carols | does that make sense? |
| 23:22.21 | bitgeeky | carols : ok yes thanks that makes sense to me , the thing is that they are making the idea list , to apply for gsoc , and since I came up with the idea that i am talking about , so I want to propose it on my own |
| 23:22.43 | carols | well, i'm sure you're welcome to tell them the idea and see if they'd like to include it in the list |
| 23:22.50 | carols | but that's their prerogative. |
| 23:23.09 | carols | if you're already working with them and in contact, why not just talk to them about it? |
| 23:23.24 | gevaerts | Also, students are free to propose their own ideas, you don't have to pick an idea from the list |
| 23:23.32 | carols | very true. |
| 23:24.24 | bitgeeky | yes i had a talk with the ppl managing gsoc for Mozilla , they fine with my idea and suggested me to apply on my own since it was me who came up with the idea , and i have somebody to mentor me :) |
| 23:24.54 | carols | great |
| 23:25.00 | carols | then good luck :-) |
| 23:26.03 | bitgeeky | thanks carol , so i can apply on melange site ? and its not necessary that the idea should be in original list , if mozilla ppl are fine with it ? |
| 23:26.40 | perepujal | bitgeeky: be sure to not register in melange as a mentor, it happened to some students... |
| 23:26.41 | bitgeeky | carols : ^ |
| 23:27.03 | carols | bitgeeky: um, you're asking if you can apply as a student or as a mentor? |
| 23:27.04 | bitgeeky | perepujal : oh :o sure i will take care |
| 23:27.14 | carols | is suddenly confused again |
| 23:27.22 | bitgeeky | carols : as a student |
| 23:27.24 | gevaerts | Well, you can (or could, in previous years) apply directly to OSPO, but if there's an organisation that fits the project better, I very much think you should apply to them. You can of course submit the same proposal (well, you'd probably want to tweak it a bit) to both |
| 23:27.57 | carols | bitgeeky: well, you're welcome to apply as a student during the application period so long as you meet the eligibility requirements for gsoc students, you don't have to ask my permission :-) |
| 23:28.09 | carols | shudders at the idea of every gsoc student asking her permission |
| 23:28.24 | perepujal | LOL |
| 23:28.35 | gevaerts | carols: would you complain about that? ;) |
| 23:28.46 | carols | gevaerts: you know, gevaerts. i would complain about that. |
| 23:28.57 | bitgeeky | hehe :) ah thanks guys :) O buys guys i mean carols too :P |
| 23:29.02 | carols | yw :-) |
| 23:50.02 | carols | serves some more coffee and tea |
| 23:50.12 | carols | well, i guess that's a pretty good amount of questions for the day :-) |
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