IRC log for #gsoc on 20140204

00:04.55*** join/#gsoc mmadia (~mmadia@pool-108-5-158-166.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
00:04.55*** join/#gsoc mmadia (~mmadia@pdpc/supporter/active/mmadia)
00:07.38carolsgood luck on your org apps everyone :-)
00:07.46carolstrundles off for the day
00:09.35*** join/#gsoc demiurgo (~demiurgo@84.18.157.200)
00:14.43*** join/#gsoc FireFly (~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly)
00:37.15*** join/#gsoc austin987 (~austin@100.42.98.7)
00:46.45*** join/#gsoc umccullough (~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net)
00:55.25*** join/#gsoc d3r1ck (~d3r1ck@p54857622.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
01:10.25*** join/#gsoc Quintasan (~quassel@ubuntu/member/quintasan)
01:16.33*** part/#gsoc SeriousWorm (~sworm@bnet4403.super.carnet.hr)
01:17.09*** join/#gsoc Exio4 (~nax@gateway/tor-sasl/exio4)
01:26.58*** join/#gsoc asmeurer (~asmeurer@cpe-66-68-37-189.austin.res.rr.com)
01:41.42*** join/#gsoc David_Honeynet (~davidw@78.46.222.165)
01:41.42*** join/#gsoc David_Honeynet (~davidw@unaffiliated/david-honeynet)
01:53.54*** part/#gsoc ilv (~ilv@unaffiliated/ilv)
02:17.37*** join/#gsoc pl_014 (~chatzilla@111.161.31.185)
02:21.48*** join/#gsoc billybob (~billybob@218.5.214.31)
03:02.56*** join/#gsoc Cervator (~Thunderbi@c-98-230-25-249.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
03:10.27*** join/#gsoc jishnu7 (~jishnu7@122.166.88.111)
03:17.14*** join/#gsoc in3xes (~in3xes@182.65.159.237)
03:33.37*** join/#gsoc billybob (~billybob@218.5.214.31)
03:57.40*** join/#gsoc jrg2 (~jrg2@190.150.61.35)
03:58.43*** join/#gsoc Ivanovic_ (~ivanovic@x2f3c269.dyn.telefonica.de)
04:00.33*** join/#gsoc desouradeep (~desourade@li126-95.members.linode.com)
04:01.51*** join/#gsoc Ivanovic_ (~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic)
04:10.37*** join/#gsoc asmeurer (~asmeurer@cpe-66-68-37-189.austin.res.rr.com)
04:12.15*** join/#gsoc anubhavS (0e8d0505@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.141.5.5)
04:18.35*** join/#gsoc in3xes (~in3xes@182.65.159.237)
04:23.52*** join/#gsoc asmeurer (~asmeurer@cpe-66-68-37-189.austin.res.rr.com)
04:26.41*** join/#gsoc Avishek (~quassel@113.21.72.126)
04:27.09*** join/#gsoc PrabhjyotSodhi95 (~Prabhjyot@115.249.18.25)
04:28.01*** join/#gsoc elixir_ (~prashant@116.197.178.93)
04:31.28*** join/#gsoc mayanktg (~mayanktg@117.222.27.240)
04:31.40*** join/#gsoc Prabhjyot_ (~Prabhjyot@115.249.18.25)
04:34.55*** join/#gsoc Psodhi95 (~Prabhjyot@115.249.18.25)
04:40.41*** join/#gsoc PrabhjyotSodhi (~Prabhjyot@115.249.18.25)
04:40.49*** join/#gsoc Exio4 (~nax@gateway/tor-sasl/exio4)
04:41.51*** join/#gsoc jishnu7 (~jishnu7@122.166.88.111)
04:43.24*** join/#gsoc PrabhjyotSodhi (~Prabhjyot@115.249.18.25)
04:45.56*** join/#gsoc greensky (~greensky@141.84.69.64)
04:51.57*** join/#gsoc desouradeep (~desourade@li126-95.members.linode.com)
04:52.51*** join/#gsoc hello_world (0e8bee62@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.238.98)
04:56.46*** join/#gsoc garciarg (~guilherme@177.102.125.164)
04:57.35*** join/#gsoc desouradeep (~desourade@li126-95.members.linode.com)
05:06.31*** join/#gsoc mayanktg (~mayanktg@117.222.27.240)
05:16.35*** join/#gsoc thiago (~thiago@kde/thiago)
05:49.01*** join/#gsoc vimal (vikumar@nat/redhat/x-oefofujiguqrizwy)
05:50.12*** join/#gsoc souradeep (~sde@106.51.160.14)
05:52.03*** join/#gsoc leroy (~leroy@ip217-77-48-197.sampo.ru)
06:12.19*** join/#gsoc monkegjinni (~monkegjin@78.182.129.131)
06:14.14*** join/#gsoc nitesh (~nitesh@122.178.206.25)
06:15.26*** part/#gsoc nanook__ (uid11545@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vydomdeyzqunqpag)
06:27.18*** join/#gsoc SeriousWorm (~sworm@bnet3946.super.carnet.hr)
06:30.35*** join/#gsoc monkegji_ (~monkegjin@78.182.129.131)
06:31.05*** join/#gsoc jkridner|work (~jkridner@c-98-250-189-79.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
06:31.37*** join/#gsoc KirarinSnow-puff (~kirarinsn@173-167-156-29-illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
06:33.12*** join/#gsoc olly_ (~olly@87.98.215.227)
06:33.52*** join/#gsoc swook`_ (~swook@hobbiton.swook.net)
06:34.01*** join/#gsoc scorche|1h (~scorche@squisch.net)
06:34.07*** join/#gsoc d3r1ck_ (~d3r1ck@p54857622.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
06:34.10*** join/#gsoc scorche|1h (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche)
06:34.10*** mode/#gsoc [+o scorche|1h] by ChanServ
06:34.18*** join/#gsoc phant0mas (~manolis@147.95.121.165)
06:34.18*** join/#gsoc lu_zero_ (~lu_zero@luminem.org)
06:34.18*** join/#gsoc lu_zero_ (~lu_zero@gentoo/developer/lu-zero)
06:34.27*** join/#gsoc gambatte_ (gambatte@bitcoinshell.mooo.com)
06:35.45*** join/#gsoc infinity0_ (~infinity0@host86-149-255-74.range86-149.btcentralplus.com)
06:35.45*** join/#gsoc infinity0_ (~infinity0@freenet/developer/infinity0)
06:37.00*** join/#gsoc derdon (~quassel@catv-89-132-224-69.catv.broadband.hu)
06:40.07*** join/#gsoc Adam_ (Adam@unaffiliated/adam-)
06:44.47*** join/#gsoc thiago (~thiago@kde/thiago)
06:45.21*** join/#gsoc andrejpan (~andrejpan@static.88-198-109-162.clients.your-server.de)
06:45.46*** join/#gsoc nidzo3 (~nidzo@marvin.kset.org)
07:14.08*** join/#gsoc pl_014 (~chatzilla@111.161.31.185)
07:23.47*** join/#gsoc Blanboom (7b0b3685@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.11.54.133)
07:25.40*** join/#gsoc souradeep (~sde@106.51.160.14)
07:27.25*** join/#gsoc FireFly (~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly)
07:28.28*** join/#gsoc Blanboom (~anonymous@123.11.54.133)
07:30.06*** part/#gsoc Blanboom (~anonymous@123.11.54.133)
07:37.38*** join/#gsoc Blanboom (~anonymous@123.11.54.133)
07:40.59*** join/#gsoc sidthekid (~quassel@202.78.172.162)
07:43.55*** join/#gsoc xzzx (~nobody@123.11.54.133)
07:44.52*** join/#gsoc ||Daisyab|| (~guestu@195.24.210.66)
07:53.48*** join/#gsoc harsz89 (~harsz89@112.135.194.223)
07:55.25*** join/#gsoc narendraj9 (~narendra@gateway/tor-sasl/narendraj9)
07:58.55*** join/#gsoc akshay_r (~akshay@14.139.122.114)
08:04.04*** join/#gsoc akshay_r (~akshay@14.139.122.114)
08:09.56*** join/#gsoc smotru (~smotru@109.102.70.43)
08:11.31*** join/#gsoc astrofrog (~Adium@pD952A5E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
08:12.37smotruHi there. I am wondering what's the meaning of an "Organisation". I'm not sure because in my country this term is used for people who actually need to pay to goverment to create an organisation. Is this organisation just a name. Do I have to create an organisation in my coutry if I would like to register as an organisation?
08:13.12smotru*"Is this organisation just a name?"
08:14.01*** join/#gsoc spectie (~fran@cF6CF00C3.dhcp.as2116.net)
08:19.18*** join/#gsoc Darrel (~Darrel@92.247.169.1)
08:25.49kblinsmotru: don't get too hung up on this. it's very unlikely that the use of the wording in GSoC documentation is adjusted to your local jurisdiction
08:26.35kblinsmotru: besides, an "organisation" in gsoc terms is just an open source project (or a collection of open source projects) mentoring studens during gsoc
08:26.49*** join/#gsoc Dharmit (dharmit@nat/redhat/x-ajfovofbbegofqow)
08:27.07kblinit's just that the term "project" has already been used to designate "what a gsoc student is working on over the summer"
08:27.34*** join/#gsoc monkegjinni (~monkegjin@78.182.129.131)
08:28.01d3r1ckHello GSoC
08:28.19d3r1ckwaiting for mentoring organistations now?
08:29.09*** join/#gsoc VarunAgw (~VarunAgw@1.187.219.220)
08:30.34*** join/#gsoc rabisg (~rabisg@unaffiliated/rabisg)
08:32.08smotru@kblin , so, it's not really important what my organisation name is.. it could be like my domain name and not really a organisation itself in my country
08:38.37*** join/#gsoc scorche (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche)
08:38.37*** mode/#gsoc [+o scorche] by ChanServ
08:40.03*** join/#gsoc hello_world (0e8bee62@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.238.98)
08:40.39*** join/#gsoc imeim (~quassel@140.Red-83-57-45.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)
08:44.21*** join/#gsoc astrofrog (~Adium@rt-mpia.mpia-hd.mpg.de)
08:46.22*** join/#gsoc souradeep_ (~sde@106.51.223.2)
08:46.49*** join/#gsoc valex (~valex@31.14.13.127)
09:03.35*** join/#gsoc scorche (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche)
09:03.35*** mode/#gsoc [+o scorche] by ChanServ
09:05.20*** join/#gsoc jackneill (~jackneill@195-38-115-211.pool.digikabel.hu)
09:05.21*** join/#gsoc jackneill (~jackneill@unaffiliated/jackneill)
09:08.27*** join/#gsoc Bhash90 (~Bhathiya@112.134.134.131)
09:17.38*** join/#gsoc scorche` (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche)
09:17.38*** mode/#gsoc [+o scorche`] by ChanServ
09:20.50*** join/#gsoc vijay13 (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
09:35.14*** join/#gsoc WebbyIT (~WebbyIT@ubuntu/member/webbyit)
09:37.59*** join/#gsoc slashrsm (~slashrsm@188-230-232-248.dynamic.t-2.net)
09:39.30*** join/#gsoc koda (~vittorio@host224-231-dynamic.10-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
09:40.43*** join/#gsoc VarunAgw (~VarunAgw@49.14.134.94)
09:53.05*** join/#gsoc vijay13 (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
10:03.39*** join/#gsoc koda (~koda@host224-231-dynamic.10-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
10:04.22*** join/#gsoc nikhatzi (~nikhatzi@unaffiliated/nikhatzi)
10:05.24*** join/#gsoc koda_ (~vittorio@host224-231-dynamic.10-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
10:11.01*** join/#gsoc monkegjinni (~monkegjin@89.145.186.122)
10:14.19*** join/#gsoc Gentlecat (~Roman@79.105.217.244)
10:15.37*** join/#gsoc sebifam (~eneasebas@p16.eregie.pub.ro)
10:17.44*** join/#gsoc monkegjinni (~monkegjin@89.145.186.122)
10:18.42*** join/#gsoc Xiti (~Xiti-@c-71-207-135-136.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
10:19.52*** join/#gsoc SeriousWorm (~sworm@bnet3946.super.carnet.hr)
10:20.09*** join/#gsoc monkegji_ (~monkegjin@89.145.186.122)
10:20.28*** join/#gsoc neXyon (~neXyon@85-127-125-158.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at)
10:23.17*** part/#gsoc Blanboom (~anonymous@123.11.54.133)
10:23.26*** join/#gsoc tomreyn (~tomreyn@megaglest/team/tomreyn)
10:23.41*** join/#gsoc VarunAgw (~VarunAgw@49.14.129.69)
10:24.19*** join/#gsoc spectie (~fran@hum-tf4-ans157.hum.uit.no)
10:24.28tomreynhi there.
10:24.49tomreynhttp://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#1._What_is_a_mentoring_organization  points to http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013  which is a 404
10:28.03sebifamhi
10:28.39*** join/#gsoc cff (~coding@unaffiliated/shiningthrough)
10:29.13*** join/#gsoc abhgangwar (~abhinav@gateway/tor-sasl/abhgangwar)
10:36.45*** join/#gsoc MartinWalzl (MartinWalz@gateway/shell/catrobat/x-vjnrjzqviiggmpuh)
10:37.15*** join/#gsoc PhilippNeidhoefe (PhilippNei@gateway/shell/catrobat/x-mijlwrdsfzqzwmak)
10:37.45*** join/#gsoc SercanAkpolat (SercanAkpo@gateway/shell/catrobat/x-vttlcvgizdbonysx)
10:37.45*** join/#gsoc StefanGaller (StefanGall@gateway/shell/catrobat/x-msuxemmexmasqvvo)
10:41.16*** join/#gsoc VarunAgw (VarunAgw@49.15.104.16)
10:41.27*** join/#gsoc gloob (~gloob@axon.litio.org)
10:41.54*** part/#gsoc gloob (~gloob@axon.litio.org)
10:48.39*** join/#gsoc Lennie (Lennie@nat/google/x-vettxrsxhvpurmlb)
10:48.39*** mode/#gsoc [+o Lennie] by ChanServ
11:03.44tomreyni tried to file this as a bug, but your bug tracker returns a 404 upon submitting the bug report.
11:05.04tomreynhttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=1F3fsn1a
11:06.04*** join/#gsoc Avishek (~quassel@113.21.72.240)
11:07.14Lennietomreyn, do you want to be CC'ed on the bug? If so PM me your email
11:09.39tomreyndone, thanks
11:10.01sebifamwhere was the problem?
11:12.32LennieIt's just a documentation problem, the links have changed :)
11:13.38sebifamokey, thanks:D
11:20.06*** join/#gsoc fqueze (~Instantbi@ns392757.ip-176-31-106.eu)
11:25.36*** join/#gsoc abhgangwar (~abhinav@gateway/tor-sasl/abhgangwar)
11:32.14*** join/#gsoc Avishek (~quassel@113.21.76.192)
11:38.57*** join/#gsoc IonelPopescu (~ionel@p5.eregie.pub.ro)
11:39.54*** join/#gsoc spectie (~fran@hum-tf4-ans157.hum.uit.no)
11:46.39*** join/#gsoc LauraJ (~Laura@cpc2-cmbg14-2-0-cust31.5-4.cable.virginm.net)
11:57.11*** join/#gsoc nitesh (~nitesh@122.167.151.142)
11:57.43*** join/#gsoc sayan (~sayan@fedora/sayan)
12:07.08*** join/#gsoc sidthekid (~quassel@202.78.172.162)
12:07.10*** join/#gsoc Xiti (~Xiti-@c-71-207-135-136.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
12:10.28*** join/#gsoc vkmc (~vkmc@unaffiliated/vkmc)
12:12.53*** join/#gsoc denis_boyun (~quassel@55-79-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net)
12:13.29*** join/#gsoc metacode (~metacode@182.68.106.115)
12:17.16*** join/#gsoc luthrak (~luthrak@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:c4a7:e18f:479a)
12:18.07*** join/#gsoc stack3457 (783890fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.120.56.144.253)
12:20.51*** join/#gsoc metacode (~metacode@182.68.106.115)
12:29.14*** join/#gsoc Niharika (~Happiness@122.161.151.190)
12:29.39NiharikaHello. :)
12:30.50*** join/#gsoc filipesaraiva (~filipe@177.180.110.204)
12:31.24*** join/#gsoc narendraj9 (~narendra@gateway/tor-sasl/narendraj9)
12:32.02*** join/#gsoc leroy (~leroy@ip217-77-48-197.sampo.ru)
12:33.40*** join/#gsoc sayan (~sayan@fedora/sayan)
12:34.25abhgangwarhi Niharika
12:41.25narendraj9Niharika: Hello :)
12:43.57*** join/#gsoc josevalim (~josevalim@ip-94-42-54-7.multimo.pl)
12:46.35josevalimQuestion: is it possible to access the questionnaire answers from previous years?
12:54.12*** join/#gsoc Watusimoto_ (~quassel@188.115.18.141)
12:59.19*** join/#gsoc mynder (ca4eaca2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.78.172.162)
13:01.14*** join/#gsoc sayan (~sayan@fedora/sayan)
13:02.55*** join/#gsoc ahf (ahf@irssi/staff/ahf)
13:05.38*** join/#gsoc rabisg (~rabisg@unaffiliated/rabisg)
13:12.21*** join/#gsoc _RisH__ (73f88294@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.115.248.130.148)
13:15.36*** part/#gsoc narendraj9 (~narendra@gateway/tor-sasl/narendraj9)
13:16.21*** join/#gsoc narendraj9 (~narendra@gateway/tor-sasl/narendraj9)
13:24.37*** join/#gsoc sathyam (~sathyam@59.92.165.136)
13:25.18*** join/#gsoc sayan (~sayan@fedora/sayan)
13:25.41*** join/#gsoc blackbyte (~dishu@122.177.206.61)
13:26.30*** join/#gsoc bshum (bshum@pdpc/supporter/active/bshum)
13:27.25cosenalwhen I click submit on the member profile form, the page hangs and eventually does not submit the form
13:31.13cosenalis it just me or the post hangs for everyone?
13:35.14*** join/#gsoc tachyons (~tachyons@117.209.187.83)
13:38.56*** join/#gsoc larryxiao (~larryxiao@59.57.212.81)
13:39.37*** join/#gsoc bentley_ (~Bentley@192.3.160.116)
13:41.47*** join/#gsoc VarunAgw (VarunAgw@49.15.104.16)
13:49.47*** join/#gsoc luisgabriel (~luisgabri@200.167.249.18)
13:53.22*** join/#gsoc k-joseph (~k-joseph@196.0.9.65)
13:55.36*** join/#gsoc Cervator (~Thunderbi@c-98-230-25-249.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
13:59.23*** join/#gsoc LauraJ (~Laura@host81-149-212-230.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
14:03.09*** join/#gsoc thiago (thiago@kde/thiago)
14:03.38*** join/#gsoc Kurus (~User@61.245.163.13)
14:04.05*** join/#gsoc neXyon (~xenon@37-186-8-158.ip.as39912.net)
14:05.30*** join/#gsoc araujo (~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo)
14:10.35*** join/#gsoc VarunAgw (~VarunAgw@106.76.169.192)
14:10.45*** join/#gsoc VaticanCameos (~pls@182.68.179.221)
14:14.03*** join/#gsoc pc (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
14:17.08*** join/#gsoc Watusimoto_ (~quassel@188.115.18.141)
14:21.58*** join/#gsoc harsz89 (~harsz89@112.135.127.160)
14:27.12Kurusas a beginner, what can i do before gsoc starts??
14:27.41VaticanCameosKurus: Approach the mentoring organization of your choice and build a rapport with them.
14:29.08*** join/#gsoc buffyg (~bayard@82-71-41-233.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk)
14:29.44*** join/#gsoc dhritishikhar (~dhritishi@49.249.142.34)
14:31.07*** join/#gsoc Dhruv (~Dhruv@phpbb/developer/dhruv)
14:32.55Kurusas my i've no enough coding background, how to find the metoring organization suits to my level??
14:33.21VaticanCameosKurus: I hear lots of people enter without much of a coding background and learn on the job.
14:33.34VaticanCameosBut you'll have to have good communication.
14:33.44VaticanCameosAnd good searching skills, to find the right organization.
14:33.44*** join/#gsoc rvrg (~quassel@117.217.171.4)
14:33.48VaticanCameosYou can only do that by asking around.
14:34.34Kuruswhat do i consider when choosing the mentoring organization??
14:34.55VaticanCameosYour area of interest, or something you like.
14:34.58*** join/#gsoc codebuff (75d35823@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.211.88.35)
14:35.17*** join/#gsoc PrabhjyotSodhi (~Prabhjyot@115.249.18.25)
14:35.20VaticanCameosYou should go into the accepted organizations list of 2013 and have a look.
14:38.34brlcadKurus: get to know a couple open source communities, download their code, talk to the devs
14:39.00*** part/#gsoc codebuff (75d35823@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.211.88.35)
14:43.07*** join/#gsoc ravenlock (~ravenlock@enlightenment/developer/ravenlock)
14:46.24*** join/#gsoc Kaetemi (~Kaetemi@external.howest.be)
14:46.24*** join/#gsoc Kaetemi (~Kaetemi@pdpc/supporter/base/kaetemi)
14:48.29*** join/#gsoc User_ (~User@61.245.172.35)
14:50.51*** join/#gsoc User_ (~User@61.245.172.35)
14:53.27*** join/#gsoc cff (~coding@unaffiliated/shiningthrough)
14:54.37*** join/#gsoc tachyons (~tachyons@117.230.157.159)
15:01.26*** part/#gsoc narendraj9 (~narendra@gateway/tor-sasl/narendraj9)
15:04.56*** join/#gsoc Jeff_S_ (~jeff@427elmp01.blackmesh.com)
15:13.38*** join/#gsoc xzzx (~nobody@123.11.54.133)
15:22.30*** join/#gsoc manny (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
15:25.53*** join/#gsoc konro (~konro@41.205.22.53)
15:30.44*** join/#gsoc dhritishikhar (~dhritishi@49.249.142.206)
15:41.12*** join/#gsoc ilv (~ilv@unaffiliated/ilv)
15:42.11*** join/#gsoc jmb (~jmb@mail.parsifal.org.uk)
15:43.10*** join/#gsoc saurabhsood91 (~quassel@opensuse/member/saurabhsood91)
15:43.11*** join/#gsoc rabisg (~rabisg@unaffiliated/rabisg)
15:52.35*** join/#gsoc boom1992 (~quassel@BA1222.ballee.wh.tu-darmstadt.de)
15:53.46*** join/#gsoc tdfischer (~tdfischer@hackerbots.net)
15:56.55*** join/#gsoc tdfischer (~tdfischer@kde/tdfischer)
16:01.14*** join/#gsoc ||Daisyab|| (~guestu@195.24.210.66)
16:07.59*** join/#gsoc qgil (~qgil@192.195.83.38)
16:09.55*** join/#gsoc O01eg (~o01eg@213.87.129.143)
16:14.56*** join/#gsoc thiago (~thiago@kde/thiago)
16:15.01*** join/#gsoc phant0mas (~manolis@147.95.121.165)
16:15.37*** join/#gsoc IonelPopescu (~ionel@p5.eregie.pub.ro)
16:17.16*** join/#gsoc LauraJ (~Laura@2.26.112.225)
16:19.18*** join/#gsoc Slurpee (~Slurpee@24.180.152.87)
16:20.34*** join/#gsoc ximion (~ximion@pptp-212-201-72-242.pptp.stw-bonn.de)
16:27.02*** join/#gsoc Gentlecat (~Roman@79.105.217.244)
16:33.27*** join/#gsoc fredy (~fredy@2001:648:2ffc:1225:a800:ff:fe12:113e)
16:41.56*** join/#gsoc derdon (~quassel@catv-89-132-224-69.catv.broadband.hu)
16:42.34*** join/#gsoc ace_striker (0e8bee62@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.238.98)
16:42.49*** part/#gsoc ace_striker (0e8bee62@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.238.98)
16:44.49*** join/#gsoc souradeep (~sde@101.210.18.186)
16:45.09*** join/#gsoc souradeep (~sde@101.210.18.186)
16:49.57*** join/#gsoc metacode (~metacode@182.68.106.115)
16:50.20*** part/#gsoc metacode (~metacode@182.68.106.115)
16:51.09*** join/#gsoc metacode (~metacode@182.68.106.115)
16:53.04*** join/#gsoc garciarg (~garciarg@187.57.224.118)
16:56.56*** join/#gsoc metacode (~metacode@182.68.106.115)
16:59.05*** join/#gsoc saurav1992 (6f5d0646@gateway/web/freenode/ip.111.93.6.70)
17:00.33*** join/#gsoc LauraJ (~Laura@host81-149-212-230.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
17:00.44*** join/#gsoc aj91 (~ajay@111.93.204.250)
17:02.27*** join/#gsoc PrabhjyotSodhi (~Prabhjyot@115.249.18.25)
17:05.52*** join/#gsoc madrazr (madhusudan@unaffiliated/madrazr)
17:05.52*** mode/#gsoc [+o madrazr] by ChanServ
17:06.10*** join/#gsoc buffyg (~bayard@82-71-41-233.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk)
17:07.11*** join/#gsoc Dhruv (~Dhruv@phpbb/developer/dhruv)
17:14.46*** join/#gsoc spectie (~fran@cF6CF00C3.dhcp.as2116.net)
17:16.01*** join/#gsoc carols (carols@nat/google/x-ovwbhklrjdtyfexj)
17:16.01*** mode/#gsoc [+o carols] by ChanServ
17:17.46*** part/#gsoc metacode (~metacode@182.68.106.115)
17:20.16carolsserves some tea and coffee
17:20.52gevaertsgets some tea
17:21.14Arthur_Dwants some, too
17:21.30*** join/#gsoc bitgeeky (~bitgeeky@14.139.82.6)
17:21.38carolshelp yourselves :-)
17:22.44*** join/#gsoc karthik (~karthik@106.51.1.97)
17:22.45*** join/#gsoc nitesh (~nitesh@117.192.33.204)
17:22.45*** join/#gsoc PrabhjyotSodhi (~Prabhjyot@115.249.18.25)
17:28.31*** join/#gsoc rootavish (3ba14be9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.161.75.233)
17:29.05*** join/#gsoc shahhena95 (~shahhena9@static-mum-182.58.208.159.mtnl.net.in)
17:30.23*** join/#gsoc yetian (~yetian@cpe-76-170-72-167.socal.res.rr.com)
17:30.49*** join/#gsoc derdon (~quassel@catv-89-132-224-69.catv.broadband.hu)
17:35.28*** join/#gsoc tianyeblack (~chatzilla@cpe-76-170-72-167.socal.res.rr.com)
17:37.02*** join/#gsoc tachyons (~tachyons@117.235.214.199)
17:37.19*** join/#gsoc ace_striker (0e8bee62@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.238.98)
17:37.25*** join/#gsoc ace_striker (0e8bee62@unaffiliated/ace-striker/x-6466098)
17:37.25*** join/#gsoc ace_striker (0e8bee62@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.238.98)
17:38.58dberkholzcarols: sad to miss you at fosdem =\ caught up with cat and stephanie though
17:39.20carolsdberkholz: sorry i missed you as well, but i'm glad that cat and stephanie got out there :-)
17:43.24*** join/#gsoc Andre_H (~german_wi@pD9533144.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
17:43.33*** part/#gsoc Niharika (~Happiness@122.161.151.190)
17:45.03*** join/#gsoc blast007_ (~blast007@bzflag/developer/Blast)
17:45.57*** join/#gsoc dbs_ (~dan@li22-101.members.linode.com)
17:47.13*** join/#gsoc guillom (~guillaume@114.192.24.109.rev.sfr.net)
17:47.15*** join/#gsoc guillom (~guillaume@wikimedia/guillom)
17:48.03*** join/#gsoc tanuj (~tanuj@14.139.242.99)
17:48.28*** join/#gsoc tanuj (~tanuj@115.248.20.13)
17:48.50*** join/#gsoc sera (~quassel@gentoo/developer/sera)
17:48.51Arthur_DI settled for apple juice... have some left that I need to drink up before it starts to taste bad
17:48.59carolsgood idea :-)
17:49.17*** join/#gsoc Util (util@feather.perl6.nl)
17:49.31*** join/#gsoc legogris (~legogris@host.62.65.107.17.bitcom.se)
17:50.24Arthur_Dwe just got another of our last year's students back who offers to help mentor, so we may be able to do more than we expected :)
17:50.35carolsthat's great too :-)
17:51.18Arthur_Dyeah he's a very competent coder and had lots of experience before GSoC too, so this will definitely be a boon
17:51.25carolsexcellent.
17:52.55*** join/#gsoc bear (~bear@ds3888.flosoft-servers.net)
17:55.30gevaertscarols: not coming to fosdem was a mistake. It wasn't even freezing!
17:55.47carolsgevaerts: it still wasn't a mistake. i have been traveling too much recently :-)
17:56.01carolsanother transatlantic flight was the last thing i needed after having just gotten back from australia
17:56.07carolsand romania and poland before that
17:56.31*** join/#gsoc rvrg (~quassel@117.217.171.4)
17:56.44*** join/#gsoc Nightrose (~lydia@kde/lydia)
17:57.39gevaertsbets it was freezing in Romania and Poland!
17:58.22carolsnah, wasn't that cold at all :-)
17:59.17gevaertsAh, similar to fosdem then. No wonder you didn't feel the need to experience exactly the same again :)
17:59.27carolsexactly :-)
17:59.38carolsand i have travel in march and april too.
17:59.45carolsso i don't need more travel on top of that
17:59.50carolsthat's what coworkers are for :-)
17:59.54gevaertsTrue :)
18:01.12gevaertsA bit of travel every now and then is fine, but too much is too much
18:01.21carolsagreed.
18:04.05*** join/#gsoc Gentlecat (~Roman@162.243.136.179)
18:05.32*** join/#gsoc JD (dfb18891@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.177.136.145)
18:05.58*** part/#gsoc ilv (~ilv@unaffiliated/ilv)
18:13.09*** join/#gsoc denisboyun (~quassel@55-79-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net)
18:13.27*** join/#gsoc VarunAgw (VarunAgw@106.67.59.65)
18:13.29*** join/#gsoc Watusimoto (~quassel@188.115.18.141)
18:13.47*** join/#gsoc astroduck (~metacode@182.68.106.115)
18:19.54*** join/#gsoc denis_boyun_ (~quassel@149-14-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net)
18:30.40*** join/#gsoc ThibG (~ThibG@faye.sitedethib.com)
18:31.49*** join/#gsoc astroduck (~metacode@182.68.106.115)
18:36.07*** join/#gsoc sayan (~sayan@fedora/sayan)
18:38.43*** join/#gsoc thiago (~thiago@kde/thiago)
18:39.00*** join/#gsoc Andre_H (~german_wi@pD9533144.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
18:47.28*** join/#gsoc ilv (~ilv@unaffiliated/ilv)
18:48.03*** join/#gsoc aj91 (~ajay@111.93.204.250)
18:52.44*** join/#gsoc darkapex (~darkapex@unaffiliated/ja1lulu)
18:52.44carolsrefreshes the tea and coffee
18:55.55*** join/#gsoc k-joseph (~k-joseph@196.0.9.65)
18:59.18*** part/#gsoc darkapex (~darkapex@unaffiliated/ja1lulu)
19:00.29*** join/#gsoc asmeurer (~asmeurer@cpe-66-68-37-189.austin.res.rr.com)
19:06.40*** join/#gsoc codeforfun (~codeforfu@unaffiliated/shiningthrough)
19:07.17*** join/#gsoc stqism (~stqism@freebsd/user/stqism)
19:08.24stqismQuestion, is it 1 mentor 1 student?
19:08.36carolsstqism: it depends on how the organization divides it
19:09.10carolswe require at least one mentor be assigned to each student, but some organizations have comentors or a group of mentors to take care of all the students.
19:09.13stqismcarols: Gotcha, so it's on us to do that. Filling out the application I got the impression that we had to assign 1 core developer a student.
19:09.16meflinI've always tried for 2 ... dont always have enough mentors
19:09.32carolsstqism: give me some context...
19:09.37carolsyou're representing an org?
19:09.40carolsmaking your ideas page?
19:10.07stqismcarols: I'm an administrator for a project
19:10.24carolsokay, and so you're asking if you're required to have a mentor per project?
19:10.53stqismI'm asking how this is setup, if it's up to us to work out, do you folks require a setup, etc
19:11.56carolsstqism: well, it's up to you who mentors what. obviously we have no context one what your mentors are familiar with and what they can work on. having said that, we ask that you suggest a mentor for every project on your ideas page and if you're accepted, yes, we require every project/student has a mentor assigned.
19:12.28carolsbut i don't know whether joe from your org has expertise in that C++ project or Mary has expertise in java, obviously
19:12.30carolsonly you know that
19:12.56*** join/#gsoc tomreyn (~tomreyn@megaglest/team/tomreyn)
19:13.22stqismcarols: Gotcha, so a mentor a project a student, some mentors overlapping would be an acceptable setup, right?
19:13.28carolssure.
19:13.36stqismPerfect!
19:13.37carolsassuming they have the time.
19:13.42carolswhich again, only you know :-)
19:13.59stqismYup, that works
19:14.03carolscool.
19:14.48*** join/#gsoc buffyg (~bayard@82-71-41-233.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk)
19:15.38*** join/#gsoc mordante (~mordante@roadie.xs4all.nl)
19:15.39*** join/#gsoc mordante (~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante)
19:15.39downey!next
19:15.46carolsis gsocbot still sad?
19:15.52carolswhere's kblin?
19:16.06downeygcibot is here :)
19:16.22carolsi think gsocbot had an identity crisis :-)
19:16.59meflinproject idea : provide gsocbot therapy
19:17.25*** join/#gsoc Ziauddin (~ZIAUDDIN@2002:b4ea:a5a8::b4ea:a5a8)
19:17.27*** join/#gsoc fredy (~fredy@2001:648:2ffc:1225:a800:ff:fe12:113e)
19:20.00*** join/#gsoc Bhash90 (~Bhathiya@112.134.5.82)
19:24.40*** join/#gsoc Watusimoto (~quassel@188.115.18.141)
19:32.15*** join/#gsoc ximion1 (~ximion@pptp-212-201-72-242.pptp.stw-bonn.de)
19:32.52*** join/#gsoc aj91 (~ajay@111.93.204.250)
19:35.11carolslooks like everyone's hard at work on their applications :-)
19:35.59*** join/#gsoc balaji` (~balaji@117.238.135.9)
19:37.46*** join/#gsoc unitraxx (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/unitraxx)
19:40.00*** join/#gsoc tanuj (~tanuj@14.139.242.99)
19:41.45*** join/#gsoc osdc_bot (~nodebot@ec2-50-16-77-114.compute-1.amazonaws.com)
19:43.57*** join/#gsoc osdc_bot (~nodebot@ec2-50-16-77-114.compute-1.amazonaws.com)
19:44.06stqismcarols: Hey, making this perfect takes time
19:44.26carolsstqism: agreed. which is why we give you two weeks :-)
19:44.36carolswell, technically we've given you since october
19:44.39carolsbut who's counting?
19:45.38stqismcarols: It was more like having a occasional contributor come up begging for an internship/gsoc chance. Looking in to it, we realized we could use people with other skill sets and ideas.
19:45.51carolsthat makes sense :-)
19:47.31umcculloughonce you've had a successful gsoc year, you make future plans in advance for the next year ;)
19:47.43carolsumccullough: a very good policy.
19:48.46*** join/#gsoc fqueze (~Instantbi@ns392757.ip-176-31-106.eu)
19:49.18*** join/#gsoc LauraJ (~Laura@cpc2-cmbg14-2-0-cust31.5-4.cable.virginm.net)
19:53.12*** join/#gsoc osdc_bot (~nodebot@ec2-50-16-77-114.compute-1.amazonaws.com)
19:54.18*** join/#gsoc JordiGH (~jordi@octave/developer/JordiGH)
19:54.34JordiGHAnyone got a diff of the mentor org agreement legalese between this year and last?
19:54.42JordiGHI don't want to outright tl;dr it.
19:54.47JordiGHWait, maybe I can make the diff myself...
19:55.32JordiGHOkay, never mind, it's not that long, I can read it.
19:55.35stqismSo...should I list mentors on the projects page?
19:56.14umcculloughstqism, if possible, i think it's useful for students
19:56.16unitraxxstqism: we put our suggested mentors under the suggested ideas on our wiki
19:56.53stqismunitraxx: If you don't mind me asking, wanna link me to that? http://wiki.tox.im/Gsoc looks a little plain
19:58.09unitraxxstqism: we have a full wiki page for each idea and one summarized page
19:58.24unitraxxyou should definitely give more info of what's expected from the student imo
19:58.42unitraxxs/of/on
19:58.51stqismDoes it sound better to do this per page, or on the summary?
19:59.27unitraxxIf I as student would visit your page I would have no idea how to start on the proposal
19:59.33stqismKnow what? that might spruce up the summary
19:59.49JordiGHOkay... so the legalese says that I certify that the answers I provided are true.
19:59.57JordiGHBut I don't want to provide my home address.
20:00.09JordiGHSo I listed Google's Mountain View HQ as my home address.
20:00.11JordiGHSo...
20:00.19unitraxxsneaky ;)
20:00.29umcculloughthey might have a hard time sending you a tshirt :)
20:00.52stqismWell, you could of used general delivery
20:01.01josevalimQuick question: am I able to access the organization questionnaire from previous years? I have searched around in melange but I could not find it.
20:01.15JordiGHWell, I don't want a tee shirt.
20:01.32unitraxxjosevalim: normally you can select the year in melange?
20:01.34umcculloughjosevalim, i don't think so, but you should have it from the previous admins?
20:02.01umcculloughi'm not sure the applications are posted...maybe they are
20:02.58stqismWait...we get $500 a student? That would help with our $0 budget and $1000 a month bills.
20:02.59josevalimunitraxx: yeah, i selected 2013, and the questionnaire was not accessible
20:03.01umcculloughmm... maybe Haiku does this differently, we always email out the questions/answers before submitting, so all interested parties can review it
20:03.20umcculloughstqism, yes :)
20:03.41unitraxxI wonder why they didn't raise the 500 to 550 ;)
20:03.42JordiGHBut I also can't agree to the legalese this way, because it says I can't lie about this.
20:03.42JordiGHcould have
20:03.49josevalimumccullough: I have looked around and I can't find it. I am pretty sure we reviewed it internally but I don't remember if we used a gist, google docs, dropbox… :P
20:03.56JordiGH(pet peeve)
20:04.22JordiGHThing is, I have asked carols in past years about this, and she said using Google's address was fine if I didn't want to provide my own.
20:04.23JordiGHI just noticed that the legalese says I have to provide a truthful answer to those.
20:04.33umcculloughJordiGH, does your org have a dedicated address you can use instead?
20:05.08JordiGHIs carols still in charge this year?
20:05.14JordiGHI guess carols set the topic in here, so she must still be in charge.
20:05.15umcculloughyes, she just left though
20:05.18JordiGHumccullough: Well, I guess I could use GNU's address.
20:05.26*** join/#gsoc Benzi-Junior (~bjarki@31.209.140.155)
20:05.35JordiGHBut it's asking for a residential address. I don't live at GNU.
20:06.13JordiGHI can't answer this truthfully without disclosing my home address, and I'm about to click "I agree" on legalese that says that I will not lie.
20:06.24JordiGH(I know, I know, my fault for actually reading the damn thing)
20:06.31umcculloughi don't fault you
20:06.45umccullough:)
20:07.01umcculloughby all means, do what's right - but you may have to wait for carols to come back
20:07.15umcculloughor send an email for clarification
20:07.35*** join/#gsoc Bhathiya90 (~Bhathiya@112.134.5.82)
20:09.18umcculloughstqism, you may want to poke at a few other projects' GSoC ideas pages
20:09.19*** join/#gsoc hg (6f5d05c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.111.93.5.194)
20:09.27*** join/#gsoc carols (carols@nat/google/x-vgozobzdeabnbmdu)
20:09.27*** mode/#gsoc [+o carols] by ChanServ
20:09.39stqismumccullough: I'm going to
20:09.41*** join/#gsoc osdc_bot (~nodebot@ec2-54-221-70-114.compute-1.amazonaws.com)
20:11.13hghi
20:12.27JordiGHcarols: I don't want to give Google my home address, but the legalese says I have to answer all questions truthfully. In the past you've told me that I can use Google's address instead. Can you confirm that I can do this again?
20:12.56JordiGH(I mean, Google and the NSA probably already know my home address, but y'know...)
20:13.22stqismJordiGH: They'll know you're lying ;)
20:15.47josevalimcarols: Can I access last year answers to the organization questionnaire?
20:15.59*** join/#gsoc Dhruv (~Dhruv@phpbb/developer/dhruv)
20:16.09josevalimcarols: I tried through melange but it says it is not available. I wonder if I am missing something.
20:16.12hgany previous gsoc student
20:16.37unitraxxhg: yes y?
20:16.44ace_striker! image me
20:16.45osdc_bothttp://customersecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/like-me-no-or-yes.jpg#.png
20:17.06carolsjosevalim: sorry, just got back to my desk. what was the problem?
20:17.34hg@unitraxx just to get to know
20:18.11stqismWait, what hg?
20:18.53josevalimcarols: Can I access last year answers to the organization questionnaire? :)
20:18.53hg@unitraxx to which opensource you contributed?
20:19.00josevalimcarols:  I tried through melange but it says it is not available. I wonder if I am missing something.
20:19.09carolsjosevalim: that's a question for the developers, not me :-)
20:19.14carolsi don't know anything about the software.
20:19.19josevalimcarols: oh, sorry!
20:19.26carolsnp
20:19.29ace_strikerhey carols can i make gsocbot too for this channel using hubot ..
20:19.30carolsit's an easily made mistake
20:19.44carolsace_striker: have you talked to kblin about that?
20:19.48josevalimcarols: are there developers here? or i need to go through some e-mail / issues tracker?
20:19.51ThomasWaldmann(there could be a button "copy all fields from last year and edit <g>)
20:20.15ace_strikercarols: but i don't know when he is generally available !!
20:20.22carolsjosevalim: there are developers here, but i'd recommend emailing their list. nathanielmanista and madrazr are the developers
20:20.32carolsace_striker: neither do i, but let's not replicate work :-)
20:20.35*** join/#gsoc ravenlock (~ravenlock@enlightenment/developer/ravenlock)
20:20.41josevalimcarols: list it is, thank you!
20:20.46carolsjosevalim: yw
20:20.54stqismI'm rather curious as to why hitting submit causes nothing to change, but submits.
20:21.01ace_strikercarols: just wanted to collaborate ..
20:21.23carolsace_striker: i totally want you to collaborate. but kblin probably can provide useful insights :-)
20:21.46ace_strikerok ..
20:21.53ace_strikerthans
20:21.54carolscool
20:21.57carolsthank you!
20:22.21JordiGHcarols: Would you prefer I submitted an email for my query?
20:22.30carolsJordiGH: what's the query?
20:22.34JordiGHcarols: I don't want to give Google my home address, but the legalese says I have to answer all questions truthfully. In the past you've told me that I can use Google's address instead. Can you confirm that I can do this again?
20:22.45carolsJordiGH: sure, that's fine.
20:22.48JordiGHOkay.
20:23.22JordiGHbookmarks this IRC log for lawyers of Google-yet-to-be.
20:23.46madrazrjosevalim: I am around, if you have questions
20:23.59madrazrI am reading through the logs (now)
20:24.31ace_strikerJordiGH: take a screenshot..
20:24.53carolsthis is a logged irc channel...
20:24.53*** join/#gsoc aj91 (~ajay@14.139.221.18)
20:24.55umcculloughstqism, you can continue changing your submission
20:24.59carolsso that should be a moot point :-)
20:25.14JordiGHace_striker: I'll create a GUI in Visual Basic, see if I can get an IP address.
20:25.21stqismumccullough: I know, but it doesn't look like it actually submitted.
20:25.28umcculloughi know ;)
20:25.42stqismJordiGH: Use vb6, like a real hacker.
20:25.55ace_strikerJordiGH: IP address for what ?
20:26.28JordiGHace_striker: Tsk, kids got no respects for the classics nowadays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU
20:26.59ace_strikersorry .. i have blocked youtube during work..may be later
20:27.02carolsmadrazr: josevalim was trying to figure out about looking at previous year's applications.
20:27.34umcculloughCSI is a classic? :D
20:27.46JordiGHumccullough: This clip is.
20:27.55umcculloughyeah, i've seen it a few times
20:27.57unitraxxif that's already considered a classic.. then we're getting old
20:28.17josevalimmadrazr: oh, I have just sent an e-mail to the list as well. Yes, I can't access the organization questionnaire from previous year.
20:28.29unitraxxanyway the one where they say that everyone speaks leet on IRC is also pretty accurate
20:28.54unitraxxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ
20:28.58*** join/#gsoc hugoloza (~hugo@static-190-181-28-73.acelerate.net)
20:30.11umcculloughcarols, for clarification, there's no rules about google employees participating as mentors in gsoc right?
20:30.12*** join/#gsoc akki2200 (~androirc@117.196.95.215)
20:30.26umcculloughit came up in a discussion...
20:30.36carolsumccullough: correct. assuming that your boss and everyone's on board with it.
20:30.42umcculloughok
20:31.02umcculloughwe have several googlers who have done so in the past, but this new individual was worried
20:31.19*** join/#gsoc neXyon (~neXyon@85-127-125-158.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at)
20:31.32carolsumccullough: the new individual is welcome to email me...we have extensive resources for go oglers if he/she reaches out to me.
20:31.58umcculloughyep, i had suggested he do such, but he's not even sure he'll have the time to participate this year, so...
20:31.59unitraxxHmm I'll be interning and mentoring at the same time
20:32.06unitraxxmy host didn't make any problem of it
20:32.17hgi think it's not possible
20:33.10*** join/#gsoc ace_ (0e8bee62@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.238.98)
20:33.18umcculloughheh, it occurred to me yesterday that we had a GCI student who could be an effective mentor for GSoC, although I'm guessing there are some age restrictions
20:33.45blast007afaik, mentors for GSoC have to be at least 18
20:33.55umcculloughyeah, i figured as much
20:34.09hgYep by April
20:34.43carolsumccullough: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#6._What_are_the_eligibility_requirements
20:35.18umcculloughnoted, i've read it in the past
20:35.25umcculloughthanks for the reminder :)
20:35.28carolsyw :-)
20:35.28madrazrcarols: Oh I see, also related to issue 2017 we are discussing right now (josevalim)
20:36.00*** part/#gsoc unitraxx (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/unitraxx)
20:36.03carolsmadrazr: ah, interesting :-)
20:36.12madrazrjosevalim: I am sorry, we changed the data format this time to make org app process easy for orgs, not all the data might be correctly converted to cope with the change
20:36.12carolswell, i hope they both get fixed then :-)
20:36.43madrazrjosevalim: however, we can take this offline (may be  PM or something) and I can get that data out for you in a JSON format or something may be
20:36.49madrazrcarols: yeah
20:37.19madrazrjosevalim: too many uncertainties/may be(s) there :P But let's take this offline
20:37.37madrazrjosevalim: (I pinged you on PM)
20:38.25carolsthanks for the quick response madrazr
20:38.31madrazrcarols: NP
20:43.47carolsserves some tea and coffee
20:43.56carolsboy, org apps open and now this place is hopping :-)
20:44.14JordiGHHardly surprising. :-)
20:44.20carolsi suppose :-)
20:44.27Ivanoviccarols: and what surprises you about this?
20:44.29JordiGHHey, can Google pay in bitcoins?
20:44.36carolsIvanovic: the contrast to last week
20:44.39carolsit was a ghost town
20:44.42JordiGHI'd totally accept payments in bitcoins. :D
20:44.48Ivanoviclast week were the preparations for fosdem
20:44.48carolsJordiGH: nope :-)
20:44.56Ivanovicno one had time
20:45.14JordiGHHey, Ivanovic, how's Wesnoth doing?
20:45.15*** join/#gsoc asmeurer (~asmeurer@cpe-66-68-37-189.austin.res.rr.com)
20:45.26carolsIvanovic: i'm sure it will also be the case that everyone submits their app in the last 10 minutes too.
20:45.27JordiGHI haven't compiled in a while.
20:45.31carolsthat's usually the case.
20:45.40umcculloughreally?
20:45.43umcculloughthat's dreadful :)
20:45.57Ivanoviccarols: and that 20 projects will come up about 1h after the deadline wining about some problems with submitting
20:46.04carolsyep.
20:46.06carolsevery year
20:46.14JordiGHumccullough: It's some sort of universal human constant that 95% of the work gets submitted 5 minutes away from the deadline.
20:46.18carolsexcept this year i get to say "no. but happy valentine's day."
20:46.20FireFlyIsn't that the case with all kinds of applications?
20:46.22Ivanovicplans to submit the wesnoth proposal next weekend
20:46.30umcculloughJordiGH, absolutely, i'm a procrastinator myself :D
20:46.32stqismPeople actually come up after the deadline?
20:46.38Ivanovicokay, this weekend in fact
20:46.40JordiGHstqism: Yeah, all the time.
20:46.41carolsstqism: every year.
20:46.51JordiGHIvanovic: Way ahead of you buddy, already working on two separate applications.
20:46.53stqismIt's the 2nd day, I heard about it today, and my proposal and gsoc page is already done.
20:46.55IvanovicJordiGH: wesnoth is doing okay
20:47.08umcculloughi could see people getting thrown off by the early start again this year...
20:47.10stqismIt isn't /that/ hard
20:47.10*** join/#gsoc tianyeblack (~chatzilla@cpe-76-170-72-167.socal.res.rr.com)
20:47.15Ivanovicfosdem did some wonders reanimating our mailing list
20:47.19JordiGHNeat.
20:47.23JordiGHIs esr still doing Wesnoth? He seems to have moved on to Emacs for the moment.
20:47.26Ivanovic(okay, partly due to me sending a single mail per disucssion)
20:47.35Ivanovicnope, esr is basically 100% inactive
20:48.40Ivanovic(resulting in a flood of ~14 threads on sunday plus some followup mails on monday to which many devs just had to reply...)
20:49.31Ivanovicbut now i am going to be extremely lazy and head over to bed, i seem to be missing some hours of sleep...
20:50.44JordiGHIvanovic: Sweet dreams
20:56.25*** join/#gsoc koda (~vittorio@host224-231-dynamic.10-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
20:57.41*** part/#gsoc hg (6f5d05c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.111.93.5.194)
20:58.49*** join/#gsoc LauraJ (~Laura@cpc2-cmbg14-2-0-cust31.5-4.cable.virginm.net)
20:59.35*** join/#gsoc rabisg (~rabisg@unaffiliated/rabisg)
21:01.48*** join/#gsoc ximion (~ximion@pptp-212-201-72-242.pptp.stw-bonn.de)
21:20.25*** join/#gsoc Nightrose2 (~lydia@kde/lydia)
21:21.22*** join/#gsoc konro (~konro@41.205.22.53)
21:26.43*** join/#gsoc Nightrose (~lydia@kde/lydia)
21:29.09*** join/#gsoc Bidik (~bidik@server.ot.mk)
21:31.18*** join/#gsoc luthrak (~luthrak@2605:6400:2:fed5:22:c4a7:e18f:479a)
21:35.45carolssips some tea
21:35.53carolsdoes anyone have any org app questions?
21:35.58carolspulls up a chair
21:36.03carolsi'm happy to answer them :-)
21:36.11carolsor just keep working as usual.
21:36.14carolsi can do that too.
21:36.59VarunAgwcarols: I have a question
21:37.07carolsVarunAgw: excellent. go for it.
21:37.43stqismcarols: Wanna review my gsoc page? I like feedback.
21:37.52carolsstqism: your ideas page? sure.
21:38.17VarunAgwI want to create an organisation of which I am the only member, admin...I am the only mentor and want to apply on it as a student. Is it possible :)
21:38.28stqismcarols: Been making it pretty, http://wiki.tox.im/gsoc
21:38.45carolsVarunAgw: no on both accounts. you can't apply as an org unless you have at least one backup admin. *and* you can't be a mentor and a student in the same year.
21:38.51carolsstqism: looking
21:39.47carolsstqism: it already seems to me like you haven't got the bare minimum requirements for an ideas page (btw, we don't care if it's pretty, don't know if that's obvious)
21:40.11carolsstqism: from http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#3._What_is_an_Ideas_list " At a minimum, all the ideas on your Ideas List should include the expected outcome of the project, a potential mentor, the skills and/or languages required to complete the project, and a general "difficulty" level."
21:40.13stqismcarols: And urls to a list of what I need?
21:40.20stqismGotcha
21:40.23carolscheers
21:40.28VarunAgwdon't like the Red/Orange combo
21:40.37stqism:P
21:40.48carolsthat's between you two, VarunAgw and stqism
21:41.30stqismcarols: Did you note the links on the right?
21:41.51carolsstqism: like, for example, to routing_protocols and such?
21:43.16*** join/#gsoc lydia_ (~lydia@2a02:8109:9a00:a4c:dc4b:9c2e:b6b2:b4b0)
21:43.32VarunAgwstqism: You can look at GSoC pages of other organisations as a reference and even copy their format with their permission. Many have their pages ready for GSoC 2014
21:44.23carolsand there's even an example page on the link i sent you, stqism
21:44.26carols:-)
21:44.35*** join/#gsoc fornazi (~oiees@bateaupirate.rezel.enst.fr)
21:44.55*** join/#gsoc slashrsm (~slashrsm@188-230-232-248.dynamic.t-2.net)
21:46.42stqismcarols: Yup
21:46.53carolsawesome
21:46.56stqismJust got to a pc, editing time
21:47.04carolsyou've got time :-)
21:47.12carolsthis is the benefit of applying early and asking for help
21:47.24carolswhich so many orgs opt not to do for reasons that evade me
21:47.53stqism:P
21:48.03carolsagreed.
21:48.20carolsit just makes the rejected org meeting that much harder for me
21:49.26stqismPerfect, I take you have some say in who gets in and out?
21:49.33*** join/#gsoc LauraJ (~Laura@cpc2-cmbg14-2-0-cust31.5-4.cable.virginm.net)
21:49.42meflinheh
21:49.53carolsstqism: i have about 1/5 of the say :-) since i have team members who help with the org app review as well.
21:50.19stqismcarols: Perfect! Mind if I occasionally bug you for review?
21:50.33carolsstqism: sure, go for it! it's quite refreshing.
21:50.58carolsmy conversations this time of year are so often "this is why you got rejected" when they could be "this is how to make your app better while you still have the time"
21:51.14carolsgranted, it still doesn't guarantee anyone a spot
21:51.26carolsbut at least it improves your chances. and why wouldn't you in that case?
21:52.38stqismcarols: Hey, why not? Any pointers?
21:53.06umcculloughmake it awesome!
21:53.11carolsstqism: well, do you want me to give you more pointers on the ideas page too, or do you want me to wait for you to have a chance to update it?
21:53.31stqismcarols: After I update it, pointers in general about getting accepted
21:53.43carolsoh, well, there's the whole rest of the application..
21:53.48carolswe review every single one.
21:54.03carolsi can look over that too, but you'd need to email me about that, because i need to know the name of your org.
21:54.09stqismAs I expect, how many do you usually get?
21:54.16carolswe got 417 last year...
21:54.24carolsany predictions on how many we'll get this year?
21:54.32stqismcarols: Ouch, and I'll email you. Just gotta know it.
21:54.36carolsi'm curious if anyone has any predictions, actually
21:54.38VarunAgw10% extra
21:54.38gevaerts521
21:54.41stqismI'm betting ~500
21:54.51carolsit's the 10th anniversary of the program and we've been doing more outreach...
21:55.09gevaertscan provide more and different prediction on request :)
21:55.19carolsgevaerts: how many do you think it'll be?
21:55.21carols:-)
21:55.26gevaerts496
21:55.45carolsi'm going to send a pair of GSoCks to any person who guesses the correct number this year.
21:55.58gevaertsHow many guesses do we get? :)
21:56.08gevaertstries to think of loopholes
21:56.13carolsgevaerts: i'll give you one more. but you have to commit to it. :-)
21:56.17meflinI think 416
21:56.18stqismCan I use a range?
21:56.27carolsstqism: nope. it's gotta be exact.
21:56.29stqismWhat about a?
21:56.37gevaertscarols: I think I'm staying with 496 :)
21:56.39stqismI'll just give it value later
21:56.45carolsgevaerts: so noted :-)
21:57.20carolsthe record, btw, for org apps, was set in 2011 when we got 430.
21:57.31gevaertsCould someone get away with saying 10, and not specify the base?
21:57.35carolsmakes me wonder what it was about 2011 that we had so many applications.
21:57.39carolsgevaerts: no :-P
21:57.45*** part/#gsoc mvdan (~mvdan@mvdan.cc)
21:58.35gevaertscarols: looks like you've dealt with my sort of people before :)
21:58.50carolsgevaerts: i think that's a very accurate statement :-)
22:00.21gevaertsGood! I got *something* right! ;)
22:01.30umcculloughthrows out 546
22:02.01umcculloughmight as well aim high :)
22:05.05carolsumccullough: so noted :-)
22:05.42*** join/#gsoc boom1992 (~quassel@BA1222.ballee.wh.tu-darmstadt.de)
22:07.53*** join/#gsoc DarthCodus (anmolan@gateway/shell/kde/x-ebtijowmsmdpvtqa)
22:08.21stqismcarols: Next I make specific project pages, am I in the right direction? http://wiki.tox.im/Gsoc
22:09.07carolsstqism: yeah. they don't have to be full pages per idea, you just need each idea to be fleshed out so it's clear to someone who has no idea who you are and what you do what is expected from each of these.
22:09.37*** join/#gsoc VarunAgw (VarunAgw@106.67.51.38)
22:10.56*** join/#gsoc spectie (~fran@cF6CF00C3.dhcp.as2116.net)
22:15.38gavinatkinsoncarols: I'll guess 481
22:15.44carolsgavinatkinson: so noted.
22:18.15Arthur_D486!
22:18.26carolsArthur_D: so noted :-)
22:18.37carolsthat's pretty close to gevaerts' answer
22:18.59VarunAgw459 should also be noted.
22:19.13meflinI wonder if anyone else will voter under last year like my 416
22:19.23carolsrecords it on her spreadsheet
22:19.36carolsmeflin: yeah, that actually would be one less than we got last year...
22:19.46meflinthats how I chose it :D
22:20.06carolsthink the foss community is languishing a little this year? :-)
22:20.13Arthur_DI just used 486 because reasons... I doubt 586 or 386 would be realistic ;)
22:21.10meflincarols: some years are up and down If its down I think I will be the only under and therefore closest ;)
22:21.53carolsmeflin: yeah, i really wish i knew what the correlation was on the years when it's up and when it's down..
22:22.03carolsagain, i keep wondering, what happened in 2011 :-)
22:22.39meflinno idea :)
22:23.15VarunAgwWhat about students? Does 2011 also receive most students?
22:23.32carolsVarunAgw: you know, i don't know..i would need to go back and look at the numbers.
22:23.44*** join/#gsoc RT|Chatzilla (~rt@reactos/tester/RT)
22:23.45VarunAgwok, don't go
22:23.55carolsi'm still here :-)
22:23.56VarunAgwI will check mysself
22:24.25*** join/#gsoc phant0mas (~manolis@147.95.121.165)
22:24.34Arthur_Dit's dangerous to go alone *gives sword*
22:24.37carolslooks like 2012 was the record for student applications with 6685
22:24.48carolsbut keep in mind that one student can submit multiple proposals
22:24.57carolsso that number isn't...quite...accurate.
22:25.54meflinand some students are ... lets say more interesting then others
22:26.00carolsindeed.
22:26.25meflinlast year I found student apps much improved
22:26.42carolsmeflin: hopefully we'll find that again this year with the new student registration flow.
22:26.46VarunAgwOops! 2005 wins with recordable 8,740 student proposals.
22:26.48VarunAgwhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code#2005
22:26.50stqismInteresting?
22:27.18carolsVarunAgw: there you go :-)
22:27.33VarunAgwBecause of spam application
22:27.40carolsyeah
22:27.53*** join/#gsoc infinity0 (~infinity0@freenet/developer/infinity0)
22:27.55meflinstqism: before some changes last year ... _I_ always got students proposing there own projects that didn't have anything to do with my org or the tech we used
22:28.11stqismmeflin: That would be fub
22:28.13stqismfun
22:28.40*** join/#gsoc perepujal (~pere@230.228.21.95.dynamic.jazztel.es)
22:28.47Arthur_Dwe had quite a few 1 and 2-rated applications last year... this time we'll try to weed out those in advance with some more prerequisites
22:28.49carolsi'm curious to see if we get more students overall this year with the registration changes and/or more proposals overall
22:28.51meflinaltho the build a cloud computing platform for you table/pc/cell phone and move process between ... was at least interesting
22:36.42stqismSo... Dropbox?
22:36.55stqismWith table support?
22:40.16Arthur_Ddrop table 'box'?
22:45.27*** join/#gsoc lydia__ (~lydia@2a02:8109:9a40:1204:70eb:68d0:12d8:dce5)
22:49.27*** join/#gsoc greensky (~greensky@emasq.stusta.mhn.de)
22:54.33*** join/#gsoc perepujal (~pere@230.228.21.95.dynamic.jazztel.es)
22:56.17stqismCloud based computing tables as a service.
22:56.41*** join/#gsoc konro_ (~konro@41.205.22.53)
22:56.47stqismThat's an odd combo
22:57.16meflintables
22:57.47meflinthe idea was cross platform move your process to you phone tablet computer ect  ( this would be all from scratch )
22:58.23meflina running program not just data storage
22:58.31stqismLike cloud processes?
22:58.40stqismThat's not crazy.
22:58.44meflinexcept its a personal cloud of all your things
22:59.09Arthur_Dsounds more like streaming an application from one device to another
22:59.35meflinand we are going to build this from scratch for every os in the world :D with an emulation layer for every os's programs
22:59.39meflinfor gsoc
23:00.48meflinthat org also was into visualization or cloud
23:00.52meflinerr was not
23:09.05stqismmeflin: Arthur_D So a x11 network later thing was 100% out of the question. Right.
23:09.11stqismLayer
23:09.31stqismLet's build a graphics and network stack for distributed applications!
23:09.39Arthur_Dhehe
23:09.49Arthur_Dthe idea is neat in theory
23:09.59Arthur_Dnot as easy or good in practice though
23:10.47meflinheh that wasn't the idea :D
23:13.38*** join/#gsoc Kaetemi (~Kaetemi@pdpc/supporter/base/kaetemi)
23:13.58*** join/#gsoc fornazi (~oiees@bateaupirate.rezel.enst.fr)
23:15.53*** join/#gsoc Kaetemi (~Kaetemi@pdpc/supporter/base/kaetemi)
23:17.00*** join/#gsoc fqueze (~Instantbi@ns392757.ip-176-31-106.eu)
23:28.42*** join/#gsoc Cervator (~Thunderbi@c-98-230-25-249.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
23:34.09*** join/#gsoc man0lis (~archie@147.95.121.160)
23:45.12*** join/#gsoc Slurpee (~Slurpee@24-148-79-33.c3-0.lem-ubr2.chi-lem.il.cable.rcn.com)
23:45.47*** join/#gsoc Slurpee (~Slurpee@24-148-79-33.c3-0.lem-ubr2.chi-lem.il.cable.rcn.com)
23:49.57*** join/#gsoc tianyeblack (~chatzilla@cpe-76-170-72-167.socal.res.rr.com)
23:53.05*** join/#gsoc burcin (~burcin@brln-4d0c3c52.pool.mediaWays.net)
23:57.02*** join/#gsoc bogdan923 (~bogdan@p16.eregie.pub.ro)

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.