| 00:00.24 | Kunda | dirkhh, it's much better. Gives somewhat a use case and shows the importance of the functionality |
| 00:00.54 | Kunda | dirkhh, I fixed a typo |
| 00:01.10 | dirkhh | is good at creating typos |
| 00:01.48 | Kunda | :) |
| 00:02.19 | Kunda | meflin, do we need a projected time frame for each idea? or is that just by default dictated by the GSOC timeframe ? |
| 00:02.57 | meflin | the gsoc time frame maters ( qute a bit ) |
| 00:03.12 | meflin | but orgs pass/fail there own students |
| 00:04.06 | Kunda | meflin, can you elaborate on what you mean by "orgs pass/fail there own students" ? |
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| 00:04.52 | meflin | each org passes or failes there students on there own criterias |
| 00:04.52 | thiago | Kunda: the mentor decides if the student passed or not |
| 00:04.59 | thiago | Kunda: and all projects are 3 months long |
| 00:05.18 | meflin | I would warn you about extended time |
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| 00:06.02 | Kunda | meflin, what are the problems with this ? |
| 00:06.08 | Kunda | thiago, thanks :) |
| 00:06.16 | meflin | legion |
| 00:06.57 | meflin | to start with you are changing the rules .. the idea is do X(org) and you get $ |
| 00:07.12 | meflin | if you extend they can blow you off and get the $ |
| 00:08.13 | Kunda | i see |
| 00:08.31 | meflin | and that is just the begining |
| 00:08.52 | Kunda | buckles his seatbelt |
| 00:08.59 | dirkhh | I think the solution is not "extend the time". |
| 00:09.15 | dirkhh | It's "understand what a student can achieve" and grade them according to this |
| 00:09.22 | dirkhh | one of our projects is a touch based UI |
| 00:09.25 | meflin | the solution is to hold the time solid |
| 00:09.25 | Kunda | dirkhh. yes, and it's nice to learn from others peoples mistakes vicariously |
| 00:09.31 | dirkhh | a student won't be able to finish that in three months |
| 00:09.40 | meflin | and look for students that will hang on after |
| 00:09.42 | dirkhh | let me rephrase - most normal students won't be able to do that |
| 00:09.50 | dirkhh | but massive progress on the way is what I'm looking for |
| 00:10.05 | dirkhh | and hopefully the student stays around afterwards and continues / finishes the work |
| 00:10.33 | meflin | you are wrong |
| 00:10.41 | Kunda | meflin, wrong? |
| 00:10.50 | dirkhh | I'm listening (well, reading)... |
| 00:11.13 | meflin | you students with a realistic task will complete the job |
| 00:11.39 | meflin | you are either tasking them with to much ore unrealisting about there abilities |
| 00:11.39 | Kunda | so breaking up a big job in to mini jobs ? |
| 00:11.50 | meflin | both of those are a diservice to the students |
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| 00:13.26 | Kunda | meflin, that makes sense |
| 00:13.57 | dirkhh | I'm rephrasing that idea to be focused on one screen and to clearly describe the intended outcome |
| 00:14.18 | dirkhh | thanks, meflin |
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| 00:16.08 | Kunda | meflin, i echo dirkhh. thanks for your advice on this |
| 00:16.50 | dirkhh | yes, very helpful and much appreciated. |
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| 07:17.26 | mssharma5523 | Hey everyone!! I am a student willing to apply for GSoC 2014. I have a good experience in object oriented programming and development. But still I would like to know that how does one choose a project among all the vast number of projects mentioned every year? How do you know which project would suit you?? Please share your views and suggestions regarding this..Thanks!! |
| 07:18.41 | stqism | mssharma5523: Well, as a student, it will be your job to reach out to listed organizations and see what best matches your own skills. It's a bit of exploring, but you're also free to suggest your own proposals and ideas. |
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| 07:22.05 | mssharma5523 | stqism: Thanks for replying, but given the large number of projects and that too of across all fields, won't it be illogical to go through all of them given that we have short time span for submitting our proposal. Also even if we know our area of interest,what are your suggestions for choosing any project?? |
| 07:23.46 | stqism | mssharma5523: Well, I recommend browsing last years lists ahead of time for an idea about who might be attending, if you find a org you like, I'd recommend reaching out to them beforehand |
| 07:25.22 | stqism | I don't know melange too well, but I do know you can search various orgs |
| 07:27.37 | mssharma5523 | <stqism>: thanks !! :) |
| 07:27.49 | stqism | Np |
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| 08:32.55 | Niharika | Hello gsocbot. |
| 08:33.07 | Niharika | Nope. |
| 08:33.17 | stqism | Dead? |
| 08:33.36 | Niharika | !next |
| 08:33.37 | gsocbot | Niharika: "next" is February 14th: Mentor organization application deadline |
| 08:33.42 | Niharika | Not dead. |
| 08:33.57 | Niharika | Not programmed for doing Hellos. |
| 08:35.14 | Nilabhra | !google gsoc |
| 08:35.22 | Nilabhra | :| |
| 08:36.10 | Niharika | !commands |
| 08:36.20 | Niharika | !help |
| 08:36.20 | gsocbot | Niharika: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 08:36.23 | Nilabhra | :| |
| 08:36.45 | Nilabhra | !comand |
| 08:36.48 | Nilabhra | !command |
| 08:36.54 | Niharika | !help gsocbot |
| 08:36.54 | gsocbot | Niharika: Error: There is no command "gsocbot". |
| 08:37.03 | Niharika | Hmm... |
| 08:37.14 | Nilabhra | !help commands |
| 08:37.14 | gsocbot | Nilabhra: Error: There is no command "commands". |
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| 08:37.29 | Niharika | !help all |
| 08:37.29 | gsocbot | Niharika: Error: There is no command "all". |
| 08:37.33 | Niharika | !all |
| 08:37.47 | stqism | This bot has personality issues |
| 08:37.48 | Nilabhra | !help google |
| 08:37.48 | gsocbot | Nilabhra: Error: There is no command "google". |
| 08:37.54 | stqism | Or lack of |
| 08:38.01 | Nilabhra | stqism: yes lack of |
| 08:38.08 | Niharika | :D |
| 08:38.25 | Nilabhra | !die |
| 08:38.32 | Nilabhra | -_^ |
| 08:39.43 | stqism | Not dead yet |
| 08:39.48 | stqism | Somehow |
| 08:40.30 | Nilabhra | !ping |
| 08:40.31 | gsocbot | pong |
| 08:40.35 | Nilabhra | LOL |
| 08:40.50 | Nilabhra | !pong |
| 08:41.05 | Nilabhra | :P |
| 08:41.14 | Nilabhra | !hi |
| 08:41.23 | stqism | It's still chugging away, being defiant in commands |
| 08:41.34 | Nilabhra | !stupefy |
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| 08:42.13 | stqism | !nick HarryPotter |
| 08:42.13 | gsocbot | stqism: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 08:42.26 | stqism | It's a real command. Huh |
| 08:42.30 | stqism | !whoami |
| 08:42.30 | gsocbot | stqism: I don't recognize you. |
| 08:42.45 | stqism | What? Am I that unrecognizable? |
| 08:42.46 | Niharika | !whoami |
| 08:42.47 | gsocbot | Niharika: I don't recognize you. |
| 08:42.50 | Niharika | Oops. |
| 08:43.00 | Nilabhra | !whoami |
| 08:43.02 | gsocbot | Nilabhra: I don't recognize you. |
| 08:43.07 | Niharika | !whoiskblin |
| 08:43.10 | Nilabhra | !whoareyou |
| 08:43.33 | Niharika | !last |
| 08:43.34 | gsocbot | Niharika: [09:43:10] <Nilabhra> !whoareyou |
| 08:43.40 | Nilabhra | !whoami Niharika |
| 08:43.41 | gsocbot | Nilabhra: (whoami takes no arguments) -- Returns the name of the user calling the command. |
| 08:43.46 | Nilabhra | :v |
| 08:43.48 | Niharika | !first |
| 08:44.02 | Nilabhra | !grep |
| 08:44.02 | Niharika | !up |
| 08:44.08 | stqism | !echo test |
| 08:44.18 | Niharika | !gsoc |
| 08:44.18 | gsocbot | Niharika: "gsoc" is Something that allows you to program for the summer in an open source project and win some cash and reputation, not Generic Savoir-faire on Open source Conundrums |
| 08:44.18 | Nilabhra | !tell |
| 08:44.19 | gsocbot | Nilabhra: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells the <nick> whatever <text> is. Use nested commands to your benefit here. |
| 08:44.53 | Niharika | That was quite some definition for GSoC. |
| 08:44.53 | Nilabhra | !tell Niharika "this command works!" |
| 08:45.05 | Niharika | Ah, it sent me a PM. |
| 08:45.09 | Niharika | Cool thing. |
| 08:45.11 | Nilabhra | cool |
| 08:45.24 | Nilabhra | gives gsocbot a cookie |
| 08:45.29 | Niharika | !tell Nilabhra This is a stupid bot. |
| 08:45.31 | Nilabhra | !cookie |
| 08:45.31 | gsocbot | Nilabhra: "cookie" is omnomnom |
| 08:45.32 | kblin | !botabuse | Niharika |
| 08:45.33 | gsocbot | Niharika: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> |
| 08:45.38 | Usama | hi ..Is a guy with an empty github accoun has any chance in #gsoc ?? |
| 08:45.50 | Niharika | Oops. Sorry. |
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| 08:47.19 | stqism | Usama: Acceptance is based off mentor orgs, not github accounts |
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| 08:49.32 | Usama | but Your Experiance In Filed Is a Main Creteria !! Isn't It ! |
| 08:49.34 | tomreyn | Usama: prior experience is surely relevant for many projects, but there are many ways to demonstrate that other than an account on a public git repository. |
| 08:49.58 | Usama | Like What ? |
| 08:50.18 | stqism | Usama: Often orgs will have some sort of application to fill out or coding test |
| 08:50.36 | tomreyn | code samples on other websites or sent by e-mail to projects you apply at, lists of projects you worked on |
| 08:51.01 | stqism | As well, getting to know and talk to a mentor organization is a good early step |
| 08:51.13 | tomreyn | ... as well as suggestions you make which also reveals your prior experience in a given field |
| 08:52.19 | Usama | ok I get That .. If I Want To Start From Now ..What Organ To Choose Since The Accepted Ones Arn't Published Yet ? |
| 08:52.29 | Ivanovic | Usama: the best applications usually include that the applicants work on fixing some smaller bugs for the orgs they apply to |
| 08:53.03 | Ivanovic | this shows the orgs that the students are a) able to compile the thing and b) can use the required language plus c) are able to get into the codebase |
| 08:53.04 | stqism | Usama: Right now you can look at previous orgs for inspiration, but it's no guarantee that an org is returning |
| 08:55.07 | Usama | I see thax Guys |
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| 10:36.36 | Usama | Hi Guys What Are The Chances That Owasp Is Selected This YearToo ! |
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| 10:49.33 | VarunAgw | Usama: No one knows! |
| 10:50.22 | Usama | Does That Means That I Can't Star Working On Any Project From Now ? |
| 10:50.33 | Usama | Idea * |
| 10:50.47 | VarunAgw | You can work |
| 10:50.50 | VarunAgw | You can get a rough idea by looking at how many years they are selected |
| 10:51.23 | VarunAgw | If they have a pretty impressive selection record, chances of their selection are more |
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| 10:53.55 | Usama | Okey .. Owasp Were Seleted In The Last 3 Or 4 Years ..I Guess I Can Count On Them Then :p |
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| 12:49.15 | DanCalderone | Hello all. I am curious if anyone knows if there are any mentors still currently available for the Google Summer of Code 2014 |
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| 12:51.05 | Usama | Oo ..I thought nothing was sected yet !! |
| 12:52.28 | DanCalderone | Can anyone share any specifics on mentoring partners that was'nt posted on the site? |
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| 12:56.53 | DanCalderone | Actually I believe I answered my own question. If i'm not mistaken Student applications are from March 10th to the 21st? |
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| 13:01.06 | Avishek | DanCalderone_ i think its from feb 25th to march 9th.. |
| 13:01.37 | gevaerts | DanCalderone: correct |
| 13:02.01 | gevaerts | Avishek: Avishek where did you find those dates? |
| 13:02.13 | Avishek | DanCalderone : http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
| 13:02.27 | gevaerts | mentions that this is 2014 |
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| 13:02.58 | Avishek | oh! sorry! mixed it up! |
| 13:03.49 | Avishek | gevaerts: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014 |
| 13:04.48 | gevaerts | Avishek: you mean the student application period is not the period between "Student application period opens" and "Student application deadline"? |
| 13:05.48 | DanCalderone | Sorry, Found it here on the right hand side halfway down under program timeline http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2014 |
| 13:06.11 | Avishek | gevaerts: the date seems to be from 25th feb to 21st march(which seemingly is the deadline). |
| 13:06.44 | gevaerts | Avishek: student applications start on March 10th. *not* in February |
| 13:06.56 | DanCalderone | Yea came on because i was a little cofused. Your take is we can apply now if students with our proposal? |
| 13:06.57 | gevaerts | You can talk earlier of course |
| 13:07.32 | gevaerts | DanCalderone: you can talk to organisations at any time, including today. You can formally apply from March 10th to March 21st |
| 13:07.51 | Avishek | gevaerts: yes. thats what i meant. you can discuss your ideas with them before 10th of march. |
| 13:08.04 | DanCalderone | Awesome, thanks for the clarification gevarts |
| 13:08.28 | DanCalderone | gevaerts* |
| 13:08.58 | DanCalderone | Has anyone in here participated in previous years? |
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| 18:29.07 | VaticanCameos | Eh worth a try |
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| 19:40.10 | gevaerts | !botabuse |
| 19:40.11 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> |
| 19:40.24 | gevaerts | What *are* you people trying to do? |
| 19:40.33 | stqism | !itsthebotsfault |
| 19:40.49 | voldyman | gevaerts: popular indian beverages |
| 19:41.03 | bitgeeky | the bot wants one of the above soft drinks lol :-) |
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| 19:54.52 | VarunAgw | Does anybody knows what happens in slot allocation? |
| 19:56.32 | umccullough | you mean, how does google figure out how many slots to allocate per org? |
| 19:57.06 | gevaerts | People at Google have lots of tea and coffee, and they decide |
| 19:57.12 | perepujal | or how orgs allocs their slots to students? |
| 19:57.54 | gevaerts | For that, people at organisations have lots of tea and coffee, and they decide :) |
| 19:58.28 | umccullough | it's my understanding that orgs request a number of slots (based on how many mentors they have and how many projects they can realistically handle) |
| 19:58.38 | gevaerts | Yes |
| 19:58.53 | umccullough | then google processes all of this and based on the number of students they can/will fund, assigns the slots to each org |
| 19:59.01 | perepujal | I'd prefer some calming beverage, slot allocation is very stressing |
| 19:59.10 | umccullough | orgs can give up slots though if they want, and allow others to have a few more |
| 19:59.24 | gevaerts | umccullough: well, also based on how experiencced the org is |
| 19:59.31 | gevaerts | And past history, maybe |
| 19:59.40 | gevaerts | Adjust for umbrella status |
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| 20:00.23 | VarunAgw_ | umccullough: Sorry, got disconnected for a minute |
| 20:00.48 | VarunAgw_ | I mean what happens during slot allocation? |
| 20:00.58 | gevaerts | Anyway, slot allocation is a manual thing, fueled by an alternation of stimulating and calming drinks |
| 20:01.57 | gevaerts | There are no hard rules. In general umbrella organisations get lots, new organisations get two or three, and experienced organisations probably get more or less what they ask for |
| 20:03.29 | VarunAgw_ | ok, thanks for reply |
| 20:03.35 | bitgeeky | hey gevaerts : just a doubt(as a student) let's say a apply for a project in two different orgs and fortunately both the org like the student's proposal so how are these issues settled , can student then request to select the org ? |
| 20:03.56 | gevaerts | bitgeeky: as usual, you can *request* anything you like :) |
| 20:04.04 | bitgeeky | great :-) |
| 20:04.15 | gevaerts | Common advice is to tell the preferred organisation in advance about this |
| 20:04.32 | gevaerts | There is no guarantee that this will be taken into account though |
| 20:04.45 | VarunAgw_ | >>Common advice is to tell the preferred organisation in advance about this |
| 20:04.49 | VarunAgw_ | Tell whom? |
| 20:04.49 | umccullough | indeed, it's best to let the orgs know so they can have a "backup plan" in case a student ends up getting another proposal |
| 20:05.06 | gevaerts | voldyman: the preferred organisation |
| 20:05.09 | gevaerts | VarunAgw_: preferred organisation |
| 20:05.12 | gevaerts | bah, tab stuff... |
| 20:05.30 | gevaerts | voldyman: sorry about that |
| 20:05.47 | gevaerts | VarunAgw_: in the application text somewhere |
| 20:06.06 | VarunAgw_ | I guess it is bad idea |
| 20:06.13 | perepujal | And last recourse, there is a deduplicating meeting |
| 20:06.25 | gevaerts | VarunAgw_: you don't *have* to |
| 20:06.44 | bitgeeky | but if we tell one of the org that we would leave them ,if more preffered org selects us , don't u think we loose the project before even slot allocation lol :D |
| 20:06.55 | bitgeeky | gevaerts, : ^ |
| 20:07.00 | gevaerts | bitgeeky: that's not what's happening *at all* |
| 20:07.01 | VarunAgw_ | Saying I will not work for you if I got selected for organisation B. |
| 20:07.12 | gevaerts | VarunAgw_: read what I said again |
| 20:07.44 | gevaerts | bitgeeky: first, *you* don't "leave" any organisation. They either pick you or don't, and they either get a duplicate or don't |
| 20:07.57 | gevaerts | If they get a duplicate, the *organisations* discuss who gets you |
| 20:08.07 | gevaerts | They may or may not decide to ask you then |
| 20:08.08 | umccullough | bitgeeky, if you're a good student, the opposite is likely to happen - each org obviously wants the best students doing the best projects |
| 20:08.23 | stqism | You should remember, being a student in gsoc is something very competitive |
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| 20:08.56 | gevaerts | What I said was "Common advice is to tell the preferred organisation in advance about this" |
| 20:09.04 | gevaerts | It was *not* |
| 20:09.16 | gevaerts | "tell everyone" |
| 20:09.26 | stqism | It isn't like you're going to get 30 offers from a bunch of orgs, rather you might get offered one chance. |
| 20:09.42 | VarunAgw_ | 30 offers. LOL |
| 20:09.44 | umccullough | well, you won't get offers at all :) |
| 20:09.49 | stqism | But you have to keep in mind, tons of other people are going for these same spots. |
| 20:09.49 | umccullough | you make up to 5 proposals |
| 20:10.11 | umccullough | same org, or different orgs, your choice |
| 20:10.14 | bitgeeky | yeah ! but its possible to get 2 may be ? but as gevaerts said it would be better to tell them before :-) |
| 20:10.33 | gevaerts | There will be duplicates, but they're *far* less common than students seem to think at this stage |
| 20:10.39 | stqism | bitgeeky: two? Maybe, but getting 1 is rare. |
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| 20:12.04 | bitgeeky | may be ! well if u have the passion and really enthusiast and a good developer , one must not miss the chance , the orgs can see your commitment , they are wise enough stqism , , this is what I think |
| 20:12.15 | umccullough | i could imagine a spectacular student, who has worked with several orgs already, may have multiple proposals chosen |
| 20:12.44 | GS | bitgeeky: go ahead..may the code be with you !! |
| 20:12.45 | stqism | umccullough: Yeah, but gods gift to gsoc of students isn't something I expect to see much. |
| 20:12.47 | umccullough | i don't think it's "chance" at all ;) |
| 20:12.51 | VarunAgw_ | I guess it is very rare situation |
| 20:13.06 | stqism | bitgeeky: Maybe, either way, best of luck |
| 20:13.09 | umccullough | it's rare, yes - our org has had it happen a couple times |
| 20:13.33 | GS | but just don't be greedy. |
| 20:14.02 | bitgeeky | thanks :-) stqism , GS yeah for sure I was just talking about 2 , |
| 20:15.56 | VarunAgw_ | Is having a backup proposal on a different organisation a good idea? Is anyone have experience getting backup proposal selected? |
| 20:17.01 | perepujal | yes, is a good idea as far as the backup proposal is as good as the main proposal |
| 20:17.05 | gevaerts | A good proposal will take work. Are you confident you have enough time for more than one? If so, go for it |
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| 20:18.48 | bitgeeky | true that ! gevaerts : ^ , really don't have time for more than one |
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| 20:20.05 | GS | ! guide |
| 20:21.40 | umccullough | maybe this link is what you're looking for: http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
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| 20:22.21 | GS | umccullough: thanks |
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| 20:31.27 | VarunAgw | Where are IRC log for this channel are saved? |
| 20:31.44 | perepujal | !logs |
| 20:31.45 | gsocbot | perepujal: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 20:44.16 | gs_sd | VarunAgw: how's wamp going on |
| 20:44.34 | sarthakme | Hey guys i am a newbie to open source development and have question to ask |
| 20:44.46 | VarunAgw | gs_sd: ? |
| 20:45.12 | sarthakme | i am interested in two organisation but not able to contact them |
| 20:45.40 | sarthakme | should i still contribute to there code or wait for there reply |
| 20:45.52 | VarunAgw | How you contacted them? |
| 20:45.59 | VarunAgw | Mailing list or IRC? |
| 20:46.34 | sarthakme | mailing list. |
| 20:46.48 | sarthakme | one is not available or IRC |
| 20:47.06 | sarthakme | on* |
| 20:47.28 | umccullough | how long did you wait for a reply? keep in mind the majority of projects are run by volunteers ;) |
| 20:47.37 | tierra | do you know if either actually has plans and resources to apply for GSoC? |
| 20:47.38 | gs_sd | yeah.. |
| 20:47.50 | gs_sd | they reply if they are free |
| 20:48.01 | sarthakme | how should i find out? |
| 20:48.52 | gs_sd | contribute to code or mail ..either way is fine |
| 20:49.15 | sarthakme | okay |
| 20:49.39 | sarthakme | thanks for your time :) |
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| 21:29.42 | Munchor | Hi |
| 21:29.48 | Munchor | Are students to pick one project and one project only from the ideas? |
| 21:29.58 | Munchor | Or may they be expected to pick more than one? |
| 21:30.15 | gevaerts | You can submit up to five proposals |
| 21:30.25 | mmadia | Students are allowed to submit multiple applications. ... however, talk with the mentoring organization to see what they prefer. |
| 21:30.44 | gevaerts | Make sure you don't submit more proposals than you can deal woth though |
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| 21:31.27 | gevaerts | Also, while the ideas list is important, you *are* free to suggest your own idea, although in that case it's definitely advisable to talk to the organisation first |
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| 21:32.34 | Munchor | I'm talking from the organisation side |
| 21:32.42 | Munchor | We have come up with lots of ideas |
| 21:32.46 | Munchor | Some are 3 months time of work |
| 21:32.49 | Munchor | Others are 2 weeks time of work |
| 21:34.09 | perepujal | ideas that can be done in 2 weeks aren't for gsoc |
| 21:34.16 | gevaerts | nods |
| 21:34.50 | Munchor | that's what I wanted to know, thanks |
| 21:34.53 | gevaerts | Well, except ideas that can be done in two weeks by someone who knows the code well, but that need two months for anyone else :) |
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| 21:36.07 | tierra | well, on one hand, you will have very wide gaps in experience from different students, and what might take one student 3 months might take another 2-4 weeks, and in that case, I would want the student to plan and scope out a proposal that shows initiative for filling that 3 months |
| 21:36.11 | perepujal | or six 2week ideas that are to be done in the whole gsoc |
| 21:36.18 | ishan1604 | What I feel is, when it comes to a product especially it can never be completed. You will always scope for improvement |
| 21:37.18 | ishan1604 | After the coding is complete, Documentation, Multi-lingual support, rigorous testing, enhancements, more features etc. |
| 21:37.55 | ishan1604 | the possibilities are endless if someone is willing to work. What do you think? @Munchor |
| 21:38.21 | ishan1604 | Btw I am a student and not a mentoring org. I am trying for GSOC this year for the first time :p |
| 21:38.26 | perepujal | ishan1604: you should count all that when you evaluate the time to expect for a project |
| 21:39.27 | ishan1604 | I second that. But its not always possible to do all that in 3 months. All depends on the type of the project. |
| 21:40.03 | perepujal | a full coded project that is not documented... well I'd consider worse that a half coded project that is full documented |
| 21:41.33 | perepujal | how that code will be maintained in one or two years? |
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| 21:44.34 | ishan1604 | True ! Documentation is something that needs to be the top most priority of open source projects, for it helps in faster, better and interesting collaboration. |
| 21:44.52 | tierra | in one of my orgs, we tell students to plan on having a completely working feature by the end of the first 4 weeks, the rest is for testing/bug fixes, performance, i18n, unit tests, docs, reviews, merging, etc... it's a lot to cover for an inexperienced student who may have never done any of the above on the project before |
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| 21:47.46 | ishan1604 | Yeah seems a lot of work but is manageable if everything is done as per a plan :) |
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| 23:37.26 | mmadia | !next |
| 23:37.27 | gsocbot | mmadia: "next" is February 14th: Mentor organization application deadline |
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