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| 00:34.22 | MisterH | Hi. Am I allowed to idle here? |
| 00:34.37 | NikolaiToryzin | MisterH: Yes you are. |
| 00:34.47 | MisterH | Alright, thanks for the quick response. |
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| 00:41.22 | derdon | uhm, where is it not allowed? |
| 00:41.59 | hiker | just imagines 263 people in this room not idling ;) |
| 00:42.20 | derdon | hiker: this will happen. just wait |
| 00:42.44 | olly_ | just wait for student acceptance to be about to be announced |
| 00:43.19 | derdon | yep |
| 00:43.29 | hiker | Guess 28th Feb ... rejected org meeting, right? |
| 00:44.04 | olly_ | that's usually pretty calm |
| 00:44.11 | NikolaiToryzin | Yup |
| 00:51.55 | MisterH | derdon: some operators restrict idling in their channels, idk |
| 00:52.23 | derdon | MisterH: if you don't say anything for a certain amount of time, you get kicked? |
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| 00:52.45 | olly_ | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#2._Is_there_an_IRC_channel_I_can_idle |
| 00:52.48 | MisterH | depends on their preference |
| 00:53.01 | MisterH | thanks for the link |
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| 06:23.35 | umccullough | wait, some irc admins kick users for idling? |
| 06:24.06 | umccullough | that's op-from-hell there |
| 06:25.16 | MisterH | it happens quite often in quakenet's main channels |
| 06:25.20 | MisterH | or at least it used to |
| 06:25.32 | MisterH | haven't been on in a while |
| 06:25.33 | umccullough | lame |
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| 06:28.20 | thiago | we used to do that in DALNet's #startrek |
| 06:28.31 | thiago | I've never seen it on Freenode, though |
| 06:28.46 | umccullough | i'd rather they didn't join/leave so often, personally :) |
| 06:29.36 | umccullough | i apparently blew some kid's mind the other day when i told him i kept my machine connected to IRC 24x7 |
| 06:29.58 | umccullough | he asked me if that meant my computer was on the whole time... |
| 06:30.32 | umccullough | kids these days |
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| 06:31.05 | umccullough | i really should setup a bouncer though |
| 06:32.40 | NikolaiToryzin | It's magical |
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| 06:37.28 | umccullough | aha, doing some research, apparently some ops are irritated with "away nicks" or "auto away" messages |
| 06:37.38 | umccullough | i can definitely understand that sentiment :) |
| 06:39.21 | NikolaiToryzin | It's optional :P |
| 06:41.33 | waldi | umccullough: in most parts of the irc universe you will be removed from channels for using any of this |
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| 06:42.21 | umccullough | yeah, most places on freenode tolerate it, but it's pretty irritating |
| 06:42.55 | umccullough | anyhow, i've always equated idling with just being there inactive |
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| 06:46.38 | MisterH | same here |
| 06:47.03 | MisterH | I mean, do you really need to make it blatantly obvious to people that you aren't there? If they really need to know, they can always whois you |
| 06:49.12 | thiago | idling is fine |
| 06:49.17 | thiago | posting auto-away messages isn't |
| 06:53.23 | NikolaiToryzin | sets nick to stqism_away |
| 06:53.29 | NikolaiToryzin | is currently away |
| 06:53.36 | umccullough | heh |
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| 06:53.43 | NikolaiToryzin | is back again |
| 06:53.50 | NikolaiToryzin | :P |
| 06:54.23 | umccullough | ah, i didn't even realize you were stqism |
| 06:55.10 | NikolaiToryzin | umccullough: Yeah, I like to mess with people with other names |
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| 09:27.29 | lynus-zhu | Hello. Is it too late that starting working on a proposal now? |
| 09:28.11 | waldi | for organizations? yes |
| 09:28.48 | waldi | see the topic |
| 09:30.33 | lynus-zhu | waldi: sorry, I forgot mention i'm a student. |
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| 09:32.31 | lynus-zhu | Is it late that i participate in a community and start a project's proposal? |
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| 09:32.53 | stqism | lynus-zhu: It's never too late, you're just a little early |
| 09:35.21 | devang | Hi, I am new to open source community. How can i start working with communities to get a hands on experience of open source development and start looking forward to participate in gsoc'14? |
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| 09:41.54 | linyu | stqism: Thanks. The official faq suggest students should join the community,and let the community get familial with you. |
| 09:43.03 | linyu | stqism: perhaps submit some patches to improve your qualification. |
| 09:43.15 | stqism | This is correct |
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| 09:46.10 | linyu | stqism: that will take time.and this the reason i 'm concerned i'm too late too let the org and mentor to know me. |
| 09:46.33 | stqism | You've got time |
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| 09:49.10 | olly_ | linyu: students have started contacting potential mentoring orgs, but the rush certainly hasn't started yet |
| 09:49.29 | olly_ | that'll happen in about a week when accepted orgs are announced |
| 09:49.59 | olly_ | and more so once student applications open |
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| 09:55.43 | lynus-zhu | stqism, olly_ :thanks.But it's never too early to join the open source community, right? |
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| 09:56.15 | stqism | Never, we're not some secret club |
| 09:59.20 | olly_ | yeah |
| 09:59.34 | kblin | so why did I spend all this time learning the secret handshake? |
| 09:59.52 | kblin | oh, I remember, that was so I could implement NTLMv2 auth... |
| 10:01.59 | stqism | kblin: It's how you claim your OSS member benefits, of course. |
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| 14:34.42 | Tomkiewicz | hi, is there any possibility to obtain full stats of universities ranking for gsoc 2013? |
| 14:35.23 | Tomkiewicz | or, at least, get any stats (number of students, position in the ranking?) for a single university |
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| 14:50.51 | VaticanCameos | !next |
| 14:50.52 | gsocbot | VaticanCameos: "next" is accepted orgs will be announced feb 24th 19:00 UTC |
| 14:51.08 | VaticanCameos | Cool |
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| 15:02.11 | dahacouk | hi, i have a question relating to registering users at https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/show/google/gsoc2014 |
| 15:03.31 | dahacouk | I can't edit the username so I want to delete the user. Is this possible? |
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| 15:11.32 | umccullough | dahacouk, maybe ask in #melange |
| 15:11.46 | dahacouk | thanks! |
| 15:14.21 | edsiper | nobody serves coffee and cookies today ? |
| 15:15.23 | VaticanCameos | serves bacon and steak |
| 15:15.26 | umccullough | carols probably isn't at the office yet |
| 15:15.40 | umccullough | serves swill coffee |
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| 15:48.27 | kblin | hey carols |
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| 15:50.27 | downey | prepares the morning tea |
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| 15:52.12 | carols | hi kblin |
| 15:52.27 | d3r1ck | hi carols |
| 15:52.44 | d3r1ck | it has been long, you have been missing since on the 14th |
| 15:52.52 | d3r1ck | i hope you had been very busy? |
| 15:53.21 | carols | d3r1ck: missing? you know we do this thing in california called a weekend :-) |
| 15:53.48 | d3r1ck | yes |
| 15:53.58 | umccullough | plus holiday |
| 15:54.09 | carols | right |
| 15:54.17 | d3r1ck | yes carols |
| 15:54.24 | carols | i do in fact have a life beyond gsoc :-) |
| 15:54.25 | d3r1ck | so how was the weekend? |
| 15:54.38 | d3r1ck | was it nice? |
| 15:54.46 | carols | yes, it was fine, thanks |
| 15:54.55 | kblin | carols: a weekwhat? |
| 15:55.09 | d3r1ck | kblin: weekend. |
| 15:55.10 | kblin | 0:) |
| 15:55.28 | downey | kblin: that time between friday and monday when there tend to be fewer meetings |
| 15:55.43 | d3r1ck | yes |
| 15:56.25 | kblin | aaaah |
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| 15:58.00 | kblin | downey: but as the week for anglophones starts on sunday, isn't it more like a weekstart? ;) |
| 15:58.19 | umccullough | it's more like a weekbuffer |
| 15:58.23 | downey | kblin: if you're an optimist :) |
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| 15:58.33 | kblin | hm, or perhaps the week is like a sausage, and has two ends |
| 15:58.49 | umccullough | it's just padding |
| 15:58.56 | kblin | ahh |
| 15:59.00 | jkridner | sidthekid: missed you before... |
| 15:59.06 | kblin | so the meetings are properly aligned? |
| 15:59.09 | jkridner | I understand you are looking for a nodejs related project. |
| 15:59.20 | umccullough | it makes it easier to detect overflows too |
| 15:59.26 | umccullough | or underflows |
| 15:59.43 | kblin | jkridner: oh, you've got bonescript-related project ideas? :) |
| 15:59.52 | jkridner | a few. |
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| 16:00.15 | kblin | cool bananas |
| 16:00.36 | jkridner | most interesting is integrating multiprocessor stuff, but just more physical computing and IoT integration is also a to-do. |
| 16:00.54 | jkridner | would love to see someone clean up my Blockly support. |
| 16:01.38 | jkridner | https://github.com/jadonk/blockly-bonescript |
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| 16:04.22 | kblin | ok, so while of course the project proposals from my org are the greatest ever (0:-)), the beagleboard.org projects are pretty awesome as well :) |
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| 16:08.22 | jkridner | why no proposals?!? |
| 16:08.48 | jkridner | oh, maybe that symbol was something else. |
| 16:08.53 | jkridner | kblin: what's your ideas page? |
| 16:09.22 | kblin | jkridner: I'm probably biased :) which one do you mean? |
| 16:09.30 | kblin | I'm admining two orgs :) |
| 16:09.37 | jkridner | both :-) |
| 16:10.26 | kblin | http://wiki.worldforge.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/SoC/Ideas |
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| 16:11.03 | kblin | but s/project proposals/project ideas/ in any case |
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| 16:12.22 | kblin | WF, as an umbrella org, has a wider variety.. Samba probably has a better chance of being recogcnized on a CV :) |
| 16:12.55 | Arthur_D | you just had a release too, right? |
| 16:13.09 | Arthur_D | or Ember had... or something |
| 16:13.31 | kblin | Samba had, today :) |
| 16:14.03 | kblin | Ember had one yesterday |
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| 16:15.06 | Arthur_D | counts as "just" unless a commit counts as a release :P |
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| 16:16.27 | stqism | Arthur_D: I hope commits don't count as releases. Going from 0 to 2000 releases in a moment would be too large of a jump. |
| 16:16.37 | Arthur_D | indeed |
| 16:17.12 | Arthur_D | we'd have near 16 000 releases in that case |
| 16:17.38 | stqism | Arthur_D: Good luck supporting all those. |
| 16:18.33 | Arthur_D | pretty impossible yeah |
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| 16:19.24 | Arthur_D | in release numbers we're still not at 1.0 and won't be for at least another couple years... |
| 16:20.22 | stqism | Arthur_D: Haha, we're not in Alpha yet, despite being able to download a fully working mostly feature complete nightly right now. |
| 16:20.45 | Arthur_D | lol, why not call it alpha at least |
| 16:21.34 | stqism | We've agreed to wait till the last major feature is working in clients |
| 16:21.47 | umccullough | then you're beta :) |
| 16:22.00 | stqism | Funny because it's fully working in the core library and test client |
| 16:22.23 | Arthur_D | we're not 1.0 because we don't have all features... seems like quite a different project yours then ^^ |
| 16:22.38 | stqism | umccullough: :P beta means heavy security auditing and fips compliance possibly |
| 16:22.54 | stqism | Arthur_D: I guess it depends on your goals |
| 16:22.57 | umccullough | well, a beta phase can last years |
| 16:23.37 | Arthur_D | when projects have 4 release numbers I find it a bit silly, like 0.2.7.392 or so |
| 16:23.47 | umccullough | i suppose if "security audit" is a feature, then you can't be beta until it's finished |
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| 16:25.34 | umccullough | carols, someone asked an interesting question over the weekend - do you verify that mailing lists and/or irc channels are available, working, and active as part of the org evaluations? |
| 16:26.07 | carols | umccullough: no. it's up to the org to verify that. how you communicate with your community if your business |
| 16:26.18 | stqism | umccullough: Well, major features done for Alpha, minor features and security auditing for the beta timeline |
| 16:26.33 | umccullough | carols, yeah, i figured that would probably be a little bit too tedious anyway ;) |
| 16:26.38 | carols | yeah |
| 16:26.43 | stqism | carols: Minor question, will we be able to edit the application page? I messed up the irc link. |
| 16:26.49 | carols | stqism: nope |
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| 16:27.16 | stqism | carols: Not after possible acceptance? |
| 16:27.46 | umccullough | iirc, you can modify the org description after acceptance at least |
| 16:28.15 | carols | stqism: you can edit your org homepage, which includes an irc channel |
| 16:28.52 | stqism | carols: Perfect, #tox on freenode isn't really a link :P |
| 16:29.16 | umccullough | i think most people could figure that out at least |
| 16:30.45 | stqism | umccullough: fropage/#tox%20on%20freenode? |
| 16:30.45 | stqism | From |
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| 16:32.04 | umccullough | heh |
| 16:32.43 | stqism | Boy, I can't type today. |
| 16:32.53 | umccullough | i'm gonna poke you in #tox a bit |
| 16:37.04 | downey | stqism: IIRC melange doesn't correctly render standardized IRC protocol links |
| 16:37.12 | downey | stqism: but that's a question for elsewhere |
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| 16:51.26 | umccullough | crap... our website is down for some reason |
| 16:57.04 | stqism | umccullough: Ironic timing, I /just/ got our wiki behind our cdn. |
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| 17:00.20 | umccullough | strange - our website runs from a virtual machine on our root server - it seems someone has shutdown the virtual machine entirely |
| 17:01.21 | Nilabhra | umccullough: a crash perhaps? what OS was the vm running? |
| 17:01.30 | umccullough | opensuse 13.1 |
| 17:01.49 | kblin | you mean GNU/Linux with opensuse userland |
| 17:01.52 | kblin | ducks |
| 17:01.57 | umccullough | we have 3 VMs running the same thing |
| 17:02.12 | Nilabhra | kblin: :) |
| 17:02.59 | Nilabhra | umccullough: maybe it wa runnning a vulnerable app/service? |
| 17:03.20 | umccullough | pretty much just stock + apache + drupal |
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| 17:03.34 | umccullough | anyhow, just restarted it, we'll see |
| 17:04.08 | umccullough | well...it's running again anyway |
| 17:04.22 | Nilabhra | check logs ... |
| 17:04.51 | umccullough | yep, i'm actually trying to pester our usual admin guy to look at it |
| 17:05.32 | stqism | >apache |
| 17:05.35 | stqism | :P |
| 17:05.49 | Nilabhra | http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1367/product_id-2387/Drupal-Drupal.html |
| 17:06.22 | Nilabhra | http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-45/Apache.html |
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| 20:40.15 | carols | sure got quiet in here now that org apps are closed :-) |
| 20:40.36 | meflin | we are drinking tea ... often with addons while we worry :) |
| 20:41.16 | carols | why worry? |
| 20:41.17 | carols | :-) |
| 20:41.29 | meflin | I always worry |
| 20:42.03 | carols | that seems like a waste of energy :-) |
| 20:42.23 | meflin | well I worry about org select , how my mentors are doing, how my students are doing ;) |
| 20:42.38 | meflin | I worry if If I have enough tea on hand for the snowstorm ;) |
| 20:42.46 | meflin | its a state of being ;) |
| 20:42.49 | carols | i see |
| 20:43.13 | meflin | well the tea thing .. that is a big deal ;) |
| 20:43.55 | carols | of course |
| 20:43.55 | meflin | heh and in my org channels I'm being bothered for "updates" |
| 20:44.02 | carols | updates? |
| 20:44.05 | carols | like what? |
| 20:44.11 | meflin | on org selection :D |
| 20:44.16 | gevaerts | On the tea situation, of course :) |
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| 20:44.37 | carols | what updates have ever been posted before the announcement day? |
| 20:44.39 | meflin | well until org selection they haven't earned tea ;) |
| 20:44.42 | terri | has outsourced her worry to meflin, and spends her time redirecting students to setup docs |
| 20:44.43 | meflin | non |
| 20:44.48 | meflin | heh :D |
| 20:45.56 | downey | There's no earning tea. It should be for all. ;) |
| 20:46.13 | meflin | well GOOD tea |
| 20:47.38 | carols | kblin: you still around? |
| 20:49.32 | meflin | ah the good tea is ready |
| 20:49.36 | meflin | serves tea |
| 20:51.27 | carols | thanks meflin :-) |
| 20:51.35 | carols | sips some tea |
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| 20:51.49 | downey | Thanks meflin |
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| 20:57.25 | olly_ | carols: i wonder if the email sent to rejected orgs should mention the IRC feedback meeting (if it doesn't already)? there was an org a month or two back on here who hadn't realised there was such a meeting, and i came across someone not applying this year and his first reason is you don't get any feedback (http://www.vitavonni.de/blog/201402/2014021301-google-summer-of-code-2014.html) |
| 20:57.47 | carols | olly_: it already does mention that, and it did last year too |
| 20:58.07 | olly_ | dear me, people really can't read |
| 20:58.34 | carols | nope. |
| 20:58.41 | carols | as proven every year with the FAqs. |
| 20:59.01 | carols | in his defense, it hasn't mentioned the IRC meeting *before* last year |
| 20:59.08 | carols | but last year it did and it will again this year. |
| 20:59.41 | meflin | carols: also unless saw one after I left the ... ask for extension count stands at - 1 |
| 20:59.52 | carols | meflin: i got a new one this year |
| 21:00.00 | meflin | so 2? |
| 21:00.06 | carols | i got an email request for an an extension deadline from someone who'd already applied |
| 21:00.18 | meflin | uh ... |
| 21:00.22 | carols | yeah |
| 21:00.25 | carols | so i say 2.5 |
| 21:01.12 | meflin | so stigsm was closest guessing 10 |
| 21:01.29 | meflin | umccullough: was last place at 31 |
| 21:01.54 | olly_ | perhaps they wanted to edit their already submitted application |
| 21:01.56 | meflin | never seen so few |
| 21:02.16 | stqism | meflin: stigsm? |
| 21:02.25 | meflin | stqism: you |
| 21:02.28 | meflin | I wrote it down wrong :) |
| 21:02.31 | carols | olly_: no, they seriously just hadn't actually realized that someone had submitted their app already |
| 21:02.37 | olly_ | heh |
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| 21:02.46 | meflin | embarrassing |
| 21:02.59 | carols | yeah, tells me a lot about how much the community talks to each other |
| 21:03.12 | carols | (or not) |
| 21:03.24 | olly_ | carols: do you get many orgs making more than one application? |
| 21:03.43 | carols | olly_: um, no...i've never gotten that |
| 21:03.48 | carols | i don't think i understand what you mean? |
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| 21:04.11 | olly_ | well, say the person who asked for the extension had actually made an application |
| 21:04.20 | meflin | x.org x-foundation could happen I think |
| 21:04.28 | olly_ | then you'd have two different applications for the same org |
| 21:04.33 | downey | Heh |
| 21:04.34 | carols | olly_: oh, no, that's never happened that i'm aware of |
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| 21:04.39 | olly_ | yeah, they'd have to pick different short names |
| 21:04.40 | stqism | What about 2 people submitting an app on behalf of an org and not realizing? |
| 21:04.49 | carols | i think the org runs into the "oh, someone already has our org's username" thing and they realize what happened |
| 21:05.01 | olly_ | stqism: that's exactly what I mean |
| 21:05.07 | carols | stqism: i can't think of a time that's ever happened |
| 21:05.17 | stqism | olly_: You made it too vague :P |
| 21:05.22 | carols | but...i've only been running the program for 3 years |
| 21:05.40 | meflin | I thought it wsa 5 |
| 21:05.41 | downey | It would be difficult to create 2 different sets of ideas pages. |
| 21:06.37 | stqism | ^^ |
| 21:06.38 | olly_ | 30/03/2010 "Thank you everyone for the very warm welcome!" |
| 21:06.44 | olly_ | so i guess this is year 5? |
| 21:07.03 | carols | olly_: nah, only 4 years if you're really being particular |
| 21:07.10 | olly_ | though there was some handover in 2010 IIRC |
| 21:07.17 | carols | olly_: and leslie was on board for a while overlapping with me |
| 21:07.24 | carols | yeah |
| 21:07.31 | meflin | ah that does ring a memory |
| 21:07.59 | meflin | that was my first year ...so from my point of view you have been here "forever" :D |
| 21:08.18 | downey | I am starting to feel old |
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| 21:08.29 | meflin | then you are not old |
| 21:08.44 | carols | meflin: it's almost 9 years at google soon...that's "forever" |
| 21:08.48 | meflin | you only old when you think ... you know ... I remember when I started to feel old ... with nostalgia |
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| 21:09.26 | downey | Uhoh |
| 21:10.04 | umccullough | "old" is when you are old enough to mentor your kids |
| 21:10.04 | meflin | carols: we may have to have a tea-off over "forever" ;) |
| 21:10.10 | carols | indeed :-) |
| 21:10.12 | meflin | umccullough: I am :P |
| 21:10.17 | umccullough | same here :/ |
| 21:10.29 | umccullough | at least, i mentored GCI students younger than my oldest |
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| 21:10.53 | meflin | if I had them I could be mentoring GSOC students of mine ;) |
| 21:11.00 | umccullough | heh |
| 21:11.11 | umccullough | in a few years, i suppose that could be my daughter |
| 21:12.38 | umccullough | carols, has there ever been a quesiton/case of mentor/student being related? :D |
| 21:12.53 | carols | umccullough: we had that person in the channel a few weeks ago... |
| 21:12.54 | umccullough | i suppose it probably doesn't matter |
| 21:12.59 | umccullough | ah |
| 21:13.15 | carols | i've never come across it in an actual running program with two people |
| 21:13.18 | meflin | I wouldn't recommend it |
| 21:13.20 | carols | just the hypotehticals |
| 21:13.24 | carols | sigh |
| 21:13.28 | carols | hypotheticals |
| 21:13.49 | meflin | imagine this : say daughter your really good but I"m going to have to fail you |
| 21:13.57 | umccullough | heh |
| 21:14.10 | umccullough | i'm already pretty critical of her anyway |
| 21:14.12 | carols | meflin: i'm just having trouble imagining the number of circumstances that would have to line up for it to happen |
| 21:14.18 | carols | first, the org has to be accepted |
| 21:14.25 | carols | next the mentor has to be a mentor for the project |
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| 21:14.34 | carols | then the org has to accept the student |
| 21:14.46 | carols | then they have to decide that the best mentor from the whole community is the parent... |
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| 21:14.53 | carols | it's just hard to see actually happened |
| 21:14.54 | umccullough | yeah, it would almost be a situation where someone told their relative to make a proposal once they knew the org was accepted, and they were mentoring |
| 21:14.55 | carols | happening |
| 21:15.04 | carols | yeah.. |
| 21:15.08 | umccullough | i suppose with a very small org, it could happen |
| 21:15.13 | carols | possibly. |
| 21:15.27 | meflin | its hard enough failing a random student that you have worked with for a short while :) |
| 21:15.28 | umccullough | likely you'd never actually realize it if it did |
| 21:15.35 | carols | yeah |
| 21:17.56 | meflin | well if they show up ... I've seen that before |
| 21:18.04 | meflin | but at that point you didn't work with them :) |
| 21:18.57 | MisterH | how difficult is it to get accepted as a student? |
| 21:19.05 | MisterH | I can't imagine what the criteria looks like |
| 21:19.20 | carols | MisterH: it's up to the org what the criteria is. |
| 21:19.33 | MisterH | I see |
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| 21:20.10 | meflin | its easy! just convince us! ;) |
| 21:20.31 | stqism | meflin: Pls? |
| 21:21.14 | stqism | meflin: I can imagine that being an entire student proposal |
| 21:21.29 | meflin | heh I'm a bit harder to convince ;) |
| 21:21.47 | MisterH | lol |
| 21:22.34 | MisterH | pretty please? hahaha |
| 21:22.59 | carols | we've certainly gotten some pretty gosh darn short proposals |
| 21:24.45 | carols | turns out, $500 is enough money to motivate a lot of people to go to our website and submit a bunk proposal |
| 21:24.52 | stqism | MisterH: Please, I have a wife and kids to feed! |
| 21:25.20 | MisterH | is a certain level of experience required for students to be accepted? |
| 21:25.29 | carols | MisterH: depends on the org |
| 21:25.31 | carols | you should ask them |
| 21:25.50 | MisterH | ah, I see, will there be a list on the website? |
| 21:26.04 | stqism | MisterH: On the ideas page |
| 21:26.13 | carols | MisterH: have you read all the docs? these things are all answered for you already |
| 21:26.28 | MisterH | I haven't yet, I just found out about the irc channel last night and decided to hop on |
| 21:26.37 | carols | MisterH: take a look at the docs. |
| 21:26.40 | carols | they will help you. |
| 21:26.49 | carols | i assure you, if it's a question you have, it's been answered there |
| 21:26.50 | carols | i know |
| 21:26.52 | carols | i wrote the docs |
| 21:26.57 | MisterH | Alright, can I please have a link? |
| 21:27.04 | stqism | !faq |
| 21:27.04 | gsocbot | stqism: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 21:27.12 | MisterH | I see, thank you |
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| 21:27.51 | carols | MisterH: you specifically want this question: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#7._How_does_the_program_work |
| 21:27.52 | MisterH | I realize it'd have been pretty terrible to have someone apply without having read any of the material |
| 21:28.00 | carols | i agree. |
| 21:28.02 | carols | and yet. |
| 21:28.05 | carols | it happens every day. |
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| 21:28.11 | stqism | MisterH: Well, it's a competition. |
| 21:28.21 | stqism | MisterH: I'd rather know the rules perfectly |
| 21:29.49 | MisterH | Yes indeed |
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| 21:49.57 | umccullough | carols, am i understanding you right - because the org gets $500 per student, the suspicion is that the orgs had someone supply a bunk proposal so they could get more $? |
| 21:50.06 | carols | umccullough: no, not at all |
| 21:50.09 | umccullough | ok |
| 21:50.16 | carols | the student gets $500 upon acceptance into the program |
| 21:50.18 | umccullough | the $500 didn't make sense to me, i thought students got a lot more than that |
| 21:50.20 | umccullough | aha |
| 21:50.30 | umccullough | whether they pass or fail? |
| 21:50.30 | carols | so students write a bunk proposal, hope to get accepted and get $500 and then disappear |
| 21:50.34 | umccullough | got it |
| 21:50.37 | carols | yes |
| 21:50.47 | umccullough | i haven't been paying close attention to how the student monies work |
| 21:50.49 | carols | every student get $500 for being accepted |
| 21:51.18 | umccullough | i would guess that reflects poorly on the orgs involved in following years |
| 21:51.37 | meflin | as an admin and mentor _I_ have never got $1 so I have no reason to sign up students for personal gain |
| 21:51.47 | meflin | it does |
| 21:51.55 | olly_ | sends meflin $1 |
| 21:52.06 | meflin | olly_: that would be a gift :) |
| 21:52.14 | umccullough | you earned it :D |
| 21:52.25 | olly_ | it's a NZ$ though |
| 21:52.32 | meflin | I'm good with what I have received :) |
| 21:52.46 | stqism | What if I labeled is as services rendered? |
| 21:52.57 | meflin | then I wouldn't accept it |
| 21:53.08 | stqism | Pffffft |
| 21:53.27 | meflin | I bill for my services and you can't afford it ;) |
| 21:53.38 | gevaerts | What if it was from a bet? |
| 21:53.47 | meflin | bets are not services! |
| 21:54.00 | meflin | that is recreation :D |
| 21:54.09 | gevaerts | bets meflin $1 that bets can be services! |
| 21:54.18 | meflin | I smell a trap |
| 21:54.24 | meflin | but ok $1 your on |
| 21:54.34 | gevaerts | Hmmmm |
| 21:54.49 | meflin | I prefer colorado law :D |
| 21:55.04 | gevaerts | starts thinking about how bets could be services |
| 21:55.28 | meflin | gevaerts: we should set a time limit I'll give you a year ;) |
| 21:55.30 | stqism | This whole chat smells like entrapment |
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| 21:55.44 | gevaerts | stqism: I bet you $1 it's not! |
| 21:56.02 | stqism | That depends who's doing the smelling :P |
| 21:56.16 | meflin | well its my smell .. so that would be me |
| 21:57.51 | meflin | I think I might have broken gevaerts |
| 21:58.29 | gevaerts | You did indeed! |
| 22:02.26 | meflin | heh well unless you come up with something, I'll collect the next MS we meet at ;) and pass that on to Food Bank of the Rockies ;) |
| 22:03.29 | gevaerts | They'll be *very* happy with $1 :) |
| 22:03.45 | meflin | well that is why I need to collect in person ;) |
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| 22:03.55 | meflin | and that is 4 meal's |
| 22:04.08 | gevaerts | Hmmm |
| 22:04.13 | gevaerts | What about a bookmaker? |
| 22:04.21 | meflin | bookmaker? |
| 22:04.31 | gevaerts | Don't those people provide a service? |
| 22:04.40 | meflin | for the middleman |
| 22:05.08 | meflin | altho I could call that a draw for an extra $1 donation to charity of choice each? |
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| 22:05.56 | gevaerts | Deal! |
| 22:06.06 | meflin | win-win :) |
| 22:07.39 | gevaerts | Hmmmm. Am I allowed to increase the amount a bit? I'd feel silly with $1... |
| 22:08.03 | meflin | how about $10? |
| 22:08.10 | gevaerts | That sounds better |
| 22:08.13 | meflin | I could go aas high as $50 |
| 22:08.33 | gevaerts | No need to make this a contest, really :) |
| 22:08.46 | meflin | heh its not that is a firm cap ;) |
| 22:09.07 | gevaerts | We don't want to end up in a situation where suddenly someone says that whoever gives the lowest amount has to give $1 to charity... |
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| 22:09.25 | meflin | heh! |
| 22:09.27 | gevaerts | knows what recursion can lead to |
| 22:09.29 | meflin | 10 is good |
| 22:09.37 | gevaerts | agrees |
| 22:10.03 | meflin | so thats 40 meals for you ;) |
| 22:10.21 | meflin | also I know them well and I think the 4/$1 is very conservative |
| 22:11.33 | gevaerts | I'm still thinking about this, but I suspect my money will go to the stuff my parents are supporting in D.R. Congo (sustainable agriculture and schools, mainly) |
| 22:12.02 | meflin | nice |
| 22:12.26 | meflin | I would click the send you a card thing .. but those cost money ;) |
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| 22:12.53 | meflin | heh pm? |
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| 22:13.33 | gevaerts | Sure |
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| 23:43.07 | dualinity | hahaha |
| 23:43.11 | dualinity | good joke |
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