00:00.33 | stqism | So close, man |
00:01.27 | DaSpirit | I'm excited. |
00:01.31 | DaSpirit | I hope this new organization I got to sign up has made it >.< |
00:04.52 | gevaerts | Slurpee: only 18 hours for me :) |
00:05.57 | olly_ | looks like I may be winning - less than 6 hours for me |
00:06.20 | gevaerts | Well done! |
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05:38.57 | gsocbot | Hamish_typo_mob: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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05:41.39 | Hamish_typo_mob | notes logs stopped logging a couple weks ago |
05:43.32 | kblin | oh? |
05:43.45 | kblin | indeed, where is ibot? |
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07:22.12 | gsocbot | kblin: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
07:22.50 | kblin | !learn logs as not working at the moment |
07:22.51 | gsocbot | kblin: "logs" is (#1) http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/, or (#2) not working at the moment |
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07:27.28 | olly | hmm, be good to get logs going again before the rejected orgs feedback meeting |
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07:41.51 | olly | um, I see logs from not long ago at all |
07:42.05 | olly | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/20140223.html.gz |
07:42.19 | olly | which looks to be up to midnight in whereever ibot it |
07:42.41 | olly | ah, UTC I guess, as the last line is: |
07:42.53 | olly | 23:59.50Slurpee19 hours until 19:00 feb 24 |
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07:43.53 | olly | kblin: what made you think it wasn't working (other than someone else saying it wasn't)? |
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16:58.47 | edsiper | 2 hours.. |
16:58.53 | hiddenpearls | lol |
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16:59.15 | hiddenpearls | new organizations are counting time :) |
16:59.27 | astrofrog | is there a countdown bot? |
16:59.30 | edsiper | not new really :) |
16:59.36 | astrofrog | someone should make one |
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17:10.10 | astrofrog | gevaerts: kidding :) |
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17:16.45 | *** topic/#gsoc is Google Summer of Code 2014 mentoring organization applications are now closed. We announce accepted organizations on 24 February at 19:00 UTC. Please check out our timeline for more info: goo.gl/Anraxm |
17:16.56 | astrofrog | edsiper - thanks! |
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17:29.10 | modocache | Hey, just thought I'd point out a typo on the GSoC site: "List of accepted mentoring organizations published on the Google Summer of Code 2014 site." is listed twice in the program timeline. See: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#2._What_is_the_program_timeline |
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17:34.39 | n|west_ | that's just how exciting it is |
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17:36.37 | DaSpirit | Hey, what's future link to accepted orgs? |
17:37.18 | stqism | It'll be on the site |
17:38.46 | modocache | haha |
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17:48.13 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
17:48.43 | downey | grabs a cup |
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17:50.18 | JordiGH | carols: So looks like Melange leaked urls for the accepted orgs a bit early? |
17:50.29 | carols | did it? |
17:50.33 | carols | is there an issue for it? |
17:50.45 | DaSpirit | Woah, it did? Links? |
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17:51.05 | stqism | ^ this |
17:51.13 | JordiGH | Well, who knows if it really did or not. The only evidence I have is that sage got accepted last year and not this year. Their org page for this year 404's, but I assume they applied, since they've been applying every year before. |
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17:51.21 | carols | oh |
17:51.27 | carols | that's not really evidence of anything :-) |
17:51.33 | stqism | Damn |
17:51.42 | JordiGH | Er, that Sage's url doesn't 404 this year. |
17:51.52 | carols | yeah, not evidence of anything |
17:51.57 | carols | but nice shot :-) |
17:52.15 | JordiGH | tries to think of other possible rejects. |
17:52.15 | carols | besides, everything's going to be available in an hour.. |
17:52.32 | carols | JordiGH: maybe just have a cup of tea instead? |
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17:52.48 | JordiGH | Sure, but maybe there's a Melange bug. |
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17:53.07 | JordiGH | I don't really care who got accepted or not. This is purely QA. |
17:53.20 | carols | cool, then maybe ask the folks in #melange about it? |
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17:53.54 | JordiGH | I'll wait for an hour to see if the urls I can see right now and the ones I can't coincide with the orgs that did or didn't get accepted. |
17:53.55 | raks | Can a research associate take part in GSOC? |
17:54.09 | stqism | raks: As a mentor |
17:54.24 | raks | not as a mentor |
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17:54.32 | raks | but a student |
17:54.40 | n|west_ | are you a student? |
17:54.42 | DaSpirit | Are you a college/university student? |
17:54.54 | carols | raks: does the university consider you a student to the extent they will confer a diploma to you? |
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17:55.11 | raks | I ll be a research intern |
17:55.21 | downey | always wondered about why GSoC isn't under a google.com domain name. |
17:55.54 | Ivanovic | raks: the question is still the same: will the university tell google that you are a student? |
17:56.08 | Ivanovic | so if you are a grad student you are eligible |
17:56.17 | Ivanovic | if you are a "regular" student: you are eligible |
17:56.24 | dom96 | Ahh, an hour left. |
17:56.30 | Ivanovic | if you are not a student: not eligible |
17:56.34 | raks | ok! |
17:56.42 | raks | got the point, thanks |
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17:56.50 | dom96 | Time for a cup of tea and Top Gear to make the time go faster :) |
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17:58.24 | stqism | dom96: Think that's bad? We're contemplating running a freenode server because of the netsplits |
17:58.34 | stqism | It's worse than waiting |
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17:59.09 | dhanush | is away: Im not at my desk. Leave a message and I will get back to it. :) |
17:59.43 | dhanush | is back (gone 00:00:33) |
17:59.51 | scorche|sh | dhanush: please turn that off |
18:00.28 | dhanush | scorche|sh: sorry. I was testing my client. :( Turned it off already. |
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18:03.03 | dom96 | stqism: Won't this be on the website anyway? |
18:03.13 | Ben` | is there any list of the organizations that applied? |
18:03.22 | stqism | dom96: Yeah |
18:03.37 | stqism | Ben`: That information isn't released. |
18:03.44 | Ben` | ok, thanks |
18:03.46 | dom96 | I guess the website could go down too if everyone starts refreshing at the same time though. |
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18:04.24 | devenbhooshan | the selected projects will also be visible right ? |
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18:04.39 | stqism | Yes |
18:04.42 | devenbhooshan | or all the projects of the selected organization is are selected ? |
18:04.47 | carols | devenbhooshan: by "projects" you mean "organizations" right? |
18:05.01 | stqism | devenbhooshan: Everyone must be chosen again. |
18:05.13 | stqism | I think. Your question confused me. |
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18:05.50 | carols | hi dhans |
18:06.02 | dhans | hi carols |
18:06.09 | devenbhooshan | i want to know all the projects of mentoring organization are selected or not ? |
18:06.09 | carols | dhans: JordiGH thought melange was leaking URLs of accepted orgs |
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18:06.25 | carols | devenbhooshan: students haven't applied yet, no projects have been selected. |
18:06.41 | dhans | JordiGH: how come? |
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18:07.26 | JordiGH | dhans: I haven't looked into it in great detail, but I assumed that you could check if this url existed to know if an org was accepted or not: https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/octave |
18:07.38 | JordiGH | And I assumed that sage applied and got rejected, so this url 404s: https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/sage |
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18:08.08 | JordiGH | This could be all wrong. It just looked plausible. |
18:08.16 | stqism | JordiGH: Nope, https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/tox worked from day 1 |
18:08.42 | JordiGH | Ok, so I guess sage didn't even apply, what a pity. |
18:08.50 | loladiro | https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/sagemath |
18:08.52 | stqism | Or they used another name |
18:08.53 | dhans | https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/sagemath |
18:09.00 | JordiGH | Ah. |
18:09.12 | JordiGH | Alright, so I guess it's all wrong. |
18:09.23 | dhans | Thankfully :) |
18:09.33 | stqism | Sorry man, we all still have to wait :P |
18:09.47 | JordiGH | stqism: What do you mean, "sorry"? It's great, there's no bug. |
18:09.52 | JordiGH | Like I said, I don't care who gets accepted or not. |
18:10.01 | n|west | well, some of us do :-) |
18:10.13 | stqism | JordiGH: That was a joke |
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18:13.42 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
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18:22.27 | Cadair | thanks carols |
18:22.39 | carols | yw Cadair |
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18:23.30 | Cadair | carols, How many org applications did you get? last time I spoke to you you were worried you were getting less |
18:23.48 | stqism | It was around 371 iirc |
18:25.11 | astrofrog | must be difficult to evaluate so many proposals! |
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18:25.52 | Cadair | yeah that must take a while |
18:25.56 | Cadair | also hey astrofrog |
18:26.10 | astrofrog | hi Cadari! |
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18:29.24 | VarunAgw | ..30 minutes left. |
18:29.25 | VarunAgw | Its really exciting |
18:29.40 | stqism | VarunAgw: It's the final countdown |
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18:29.50 | [paladin] | I agree. |
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18:37.11 | Strangerke | Hi everybody |
18:37.20 | downey | hi, Strangerke |
18:38.00 | devenbhooshan | 22 minutes !! exciting |
18:39.09 | _leroy_ | 21 :) |
18:39.21 | _leroy_ | 20 already :) |
18:39.31 | stqism | 21 here |
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18:40.27 | unitraxx | the accepted students announcement is more exciting ;) (if you are a student) |
18:40.34 | Palash | exactly!! |
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18:42.15 | JordiGH | Ah, got the emails. |
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18:42.36 | Arthur_D | unitraxx, especially for unbelievers like yourself ;) |
18:42.50 | JordiGH | GNU Octave is accepted as a mentoring org. |
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18:43.19 | VarunAgw | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 |
18:43.19 | VarunAgw | . |
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18:44.01 | carols | Cadair: it was actually 372, but i'm not counting 1 because we had an org that applied twice |
18:44.01 | carols | smiles |
18:44.01 | carols | serves some cookies |
18:44.11 | hiddenpearls | I wish all orgs gets accepted as its GSoC 10th Year :) |
18:44.18 | downey | happy gsoc, everyone |
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18:44.43 | stqism | We're in :) |
18:44.47 | andrew_sz | Hi, cant wait for the accepted orgs |
18:44.55 | manugupt1 | Selected :) |
18:44.59 | Cadair | :( |
18:45.03 | manugupt1 | carols: thanks a lot again :) |
18:45.10 | Cadair | Not this year either :( |
18:45.18 | dom96 | Rejected :( |
18:45.20 | olly | looks like the emails have started to go out already |
18:45.22 | carols | we accepted more orgs than ever before :-) |
18:45.22 | carols | surely that's pretty good |
18:45.22 | hiddenpearls | and we got rejection email |
18:45.22 | hiddenpearls | :( |
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18:45.31 | VarunAgw | Page is live too. e the emails have started to go out already |
18:45.31 | VarunAgw | <carols> we accepted more orgs than ever before :-) |
18:45.31 | VarunAgw | <carols> surely that's pretty go |
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18:45.38 | VarunAgw | oops |
18:45.41 | VarunAgw | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 |
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18:48.26 | Cadair | thanks carols, feedback is Friday right? |
18:48.34 | andrew_sz | hmm, there are some very good ideas |
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18:48.41 | carols | Cadair: indeed it is. it's mentioned in your email |
18:48.50 | heller | carols: hey! Thanks for the timely email and thanks for being accepted. We are really looking forward to this summer! |
18:48.56 | carols | heller: yw |
18:48.58 | carols | :-) |
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18:49.03 | carols | have some tea and cookies. |
18:49.04 | stqism | carols: 20 minutes early :) |
18:49.14 | carols | stqism: seemed silly to make you all keep waiting. |
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18:49.25 | heller | carols: awesome! delicious :D |
18:49.32 | [paladin] | carols: nice surprise that, |
18:49.48 | carols | [paladin]: what is a surprise? |
18:49.49 | Nilabhra | 10 more minutes |
18:49.57 | heller | carols: one more question though. How do we know how many student proposals we can accept? |
18:50.16 | carols | heller: there's a whole manual i'd suggest you read if you have questions :-) |
18:50.27 | Nilabhra | heller: which project are you mentoring? |
18:50.37 | heller | carols: alright. thanks for the hint |
18:50.38 | neugens | carols, do we need to wait for 28 of feb to get feedback or you could provide me with a spoiler :) |
18:50.58 | carols | neugens: i'm not going to do anything in irc today. i'm happy to respond to emails (later) if you send them to me |
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18:51.02 | heller | Nilabhra: https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/wiki/GSoC-2014-Project-Ideas |
18:51.08 | carols | but i'm not going to make an impromptu irc feedback meeting today. |
18:51.10 | neugens | carols, sure, thanks! |
18:51.12 | carols | once a year is enough for that |
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18:51.46 | Cadair | carols, yes, yes it is |
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18:52.05 | Cadair | I was driven over 200 miles last year in less time than that meeting took |
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18:54.05 | devenbhooshan | 5 minutes :) |
18:54.21 | Nilabhra | devenbhooshan: :) |
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18:55.11 | carols | devenbhooshan: you're welcome to look at the list of orgs now if you like. |
18:55.18 | carols | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 |
18:55.25 | Guest59674 | so... the list should be released in 5 minutes? |
18:55.27 | Guest59674 | oh, now!? :D |
18:55.30 | David_Honeynet | congrats to everyone who got accepted, hope you have an excellent summer |
18:55.31 | stqism | It's already out. |
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18:56.05 | _xvilka | carols: now it is completed version? 190 orgs summary? |
18:56.10 | [paladin] | carols: so there are 190 orgs this time ? |
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18:56.21 | t4nk409 | does anyone know there is a loophole there is a trick to see which organizations are accepted in advance? |
18:56.26 | carols | yes, we accepted 190 orgs just as we said we would. |
18:56.34 | samuncle | Hello everyone :) |
18:56.37 | carols | t4nk409: it's already announced...why not just go visit the page? |
18:56.46 | t4nk409 | Go to http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/gnome (replace gnome with any organization. If the page loads, it means the organization is accepted. |
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18:56.59 | carols | t4nk409: or just go to http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 to see the orgs. |
18:57.02 | t4nk409 | carols: i know, i'll wait. |
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18:57.06 | carols | why do we need loopholes?? |
18:57.16 | n|west | t4nk409: that's not true, but the accepted orgs are already published |
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18:57.37 | Arthur_D | David_Honeynet, I second that, and I also would like to encourage those that didn't make it this year to keep your spirits, you all have excellent projects and keep trying for next year if that becomes an opportunity :) |
18:57.43 | Guest59674 | YES! :D |
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18:58.03 | t4nk409 | carols: i found this before the organizations were published. and it did work last night. |
18:58.19 | carols | t4nk409: cool, can you please file a bug with dhans? |
18:58.29 | t4nk409 | carols: ok. |
18:58.33 | carols | thanks |
18:58.39 | saurabhsood91 | thanks carols and the entire GSoC team from openSUSE :) |
18:58.49 | carols | saurabhsood91: you're welcome |
18:58.51 | t4nk409 | you're welcome! |
18:58.58 | unitraxx | t4nk409: your hack doesn't work, every org that applied had that page available |
18:59.06 | devenbhooshan | phpmyadmin :) |
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18:59.29 | t4nk409 | unitraxx: ok |
18:59.34 | rvraghav93 | hey ! is simplecv in ? |
18:59.43 | carols | rvraghav93: did you ask them? |
19:00.01 | manikanta | is osgeo in ? |
19:00.09 | carols | manikanta: did you ask them? |
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19:00.13 | ishan1604 | Hi guys The deadline for display of accepted orgs has passed |
19:00.17 | ishan1604 | when will the info be visible |
19:00.20 | ishan1604 | on the melange page |
19:00.21 | ishan1604 | ? |
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19:00.42 | affentanz | now |
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19:01.26 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> Google Summer of Code 2014 mentoring organization applications have been accepted. Please visit http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC for the list. The student application period opens on 10 March. Please check out our timeline for more info: goo.gl/Anraxm |
19:01.57 | slurpee | thanks Google for accepting Drupal into GSoC 2014! |
19:02.16 | unitraxx | congratz slurpee ;) |
19:02.19 | carols | yw slurpee |
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19:02.36 | slurpee | thanks unitraxx and carols :) |
19:02.39 | slurpee | We're VERY excited. |
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19:06.00 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> Google Summer of Code 2014 mentoring organizations have been announced. Please visit http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC for the list. The student application period opens on 10 March. Please check out our timeline for more info: goo.gl/Anraxm |
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19:06.23 | gevaerts | sheds tears for the one lost all-gsoc org |
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19:08.09 | new_user | is the list updated ? |
19:08.22 | carols | new_user: it's been up for 8 minutes now... |
19:09.39 | scuttlemonkey | carols: danke shoen! We're very excited. Just heard that 2 students are already writing their proposals |
19:09.48 | carols | scuttlemonkey: cool :-) |
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19:10.17 | brlcad | hugs carols |
19:10.21 | bliss-sid | Where should we discuss application ideas with mentoring organization? |
19:10.34 | carols | aw |
19:10.37 | brlcad | bliss-sid: there's a contact us block on each page |
19:10.38 | carols | hugs brlcad |
19:10.43 | brlcad | on the right side |
19:11.39 | arvind__ | carols: So excited! :) |
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19:11.55 | carols | arvind__: i'm glad :-) |
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19:12.14 | parx | Thanks for giving TimVideos a second year! |
19:12.24 | carols | yw parx |
19:12.26 | parx | Now to figure out how to attract strong students to work on video / HMDI2USB... : ) |
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19:12.45 | pancake | hey |
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19:12.53 | pancake | why radare was not accepted? |
19:13.09 | downey | Did anyone else wear their GSoCks today? :D |
19:13.13 | pancake | we are going to organize our own SoC with hookers |
19:13.20 | downey | ... |
19:13.36 | carols | pancake: i'll kick you if you say something like that again |
19:13.44 | carols | that was distasteful and disrespectful |
19:13.50 | Ivanovic | cheers |
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19:13.52 | pancake | carols: that's a quote from Futurama |
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19:13.54 | Ivanovic | the gsoc hoodie is secured! |
19:13.56 | Ivanovic | ;) |
19:13.57 | carols | pancake: i don't care. |
19:13.59 | brlcad | downey: it's cold here, I wear them most days :) |
19:14.05 | brlcad | they're quite warm |
19:14.11 | pancake | okok, dont be rude, i was just kidding |
19:14.25 | carols | pancake: in this case you should assume we absolutely cannot take a joke. |
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19:14.27 | brlcad | pancake: there's a meeting on Friday where you can get feedback on why |
19:14.37 | pancake | ok |
19:14.40 | Ivanovic | brlcad: hmm, it is february in germany and we had 14 °C today... |
19:14.42 | gevaerts | pancake: "don't be rude" isn't really the right response here... |
19:15.03 | palash_mittal | I am having a great difficulty in finding the right proeject.. |
19:15.12 | palash_mittal | *project |
19:15.18 | pancake | i didnt offended anyone, but I apologized if you felt my comment was improper |
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19:15.41 | pancake | can i have my personal data back? |
19:15.43 | anujdeshpande | palash_mittal: loads of time. it's just been 20 mins ;) |
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19:15.58 | ashepelev | palash_mittal: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 use reg exp to find |
19:16.00 | gevaerts | pancake: facually wrong on two accounts. You did not apologise, and you did offend people :) |
19:16.05 | anujdeshpande | no pancakes for breakfast here :) |
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19:16.23 | Nilabhra | ok that was odd |
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19:16.40 | Nilabhra | anyone for cryptostick here? |
19:16.46 | Nilabhra | *from |
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19:17.44 | slurpee | downey: I'll admit I'm wearing a legacy gsoc tshirt for good luck today :) |
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19:18.14 | downey | can't believe his colleague suranga_ said his GSoCks were "too good to wear" :) |
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19:18.54 | dirkhh | celebrates quietly... |
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19:19.33 | miika | Why does a mentor need to agree on Organization Participant Agreement? It really seems the terms are wrong for a mentor (E.g. YOU HAVE FULL LEGAL AUTHORITY TO BIND THE MENTOR ORGANIZATION TO THIS AGREEMENT) |
19:19.57 | carols | miika: because it's one agreement for everyone. |
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19:22.22 | d3r1ck | this is abnormal increase of channel users |
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19:22.31 | d3r1ck | carols: thanks |
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19:22.38 | carols | d3r1ck: you're welcome. |
19:22.39 | carols | for what? |
19:23.00 | d3r1ck | carols: for the release of the accepted organisations |
19:23.06 | carols | you're welcome... |
19:23.10 | _echelon_ | hi there |
19:23.13 | d3r1ck | carols: so how can my proposal be accepted |
19:23.14 | d3r1ck | ? |
19:23.15 | carols | hi _echelon_ |
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19:23.23 | carols | d3r1ck: are you a student? |
19:23.30 | d3r1ck | carols: yes i am. |
19:23.41 | carols | d3r1ck: then you go through the normal application process.. |
19:23.50 | ThomasWaldmann | will have more time for own coding this summer |
19:23.51 | d3r1ck | carols: any link for that? |
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19:24.14 | carols | d3r1ck: have you read the FAQs and the student manual? |
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19:24.29 | d3r1ck | carols: the students manual? |
19:24.33 | carols | d3r1ck: indeed. |
19:24.39 | d3r1ck | carols: i have not read the students manual? |
19:24.46 | d3r1ck | carols: any link for that? |
19:24.47 | carols | d3r1ck: then i would recommend you do. |
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19:25.00 | d3r1ck | carols: give me the link for the student manual. |
19:25.10 | carols | d3r1ck: sure, but i'd prefer you said "please" |
19:25.12 | carols | http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
19:25.43 | d3r1ck | carols: ok please. |
19:25.48 | dirkhh | carols: when I look at my connections in the dashboard I see that I'm the admin for Subsurface |
19:25.48 | dirkhh | but when I click on my organizations, nothing is shown - but according to the manual that's where I can invite my backup admin and the mentors to be part of the organization |
19:25.51 | dirkhh | what am I missing? |
19:26.00 | carols | dirkhh: dhans can help you |
19:26.29 | dirkhh | dhans: I'd appreciate some help ... question is just a few lines above |
19:26.34 | dirkhh | thanks carols |
19:26.37 | carols | yw |
19:26.55 | _leroy_ | What a cool projects! thanks! :) |
19:26.57 | carols | dirkhh: madrazr is also around here and there's #melange too. |
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19:27.25 | dhans | dirkhh: you still have "my organizations" tab? sorry, we need to remove it - it is deprecated. you can access connections from connections tab |
19:27.31 | d3r1ck | carols: thanks for the link |
19:27.35 | carols | yw |
19:27.43 | Guest59674 | :) |
19:27.48 | Guest59674 | ... my nick... :/ |
19:27.50 | samuncle | carols, I'm from the supertuxkart team and I'm happy that we are accepted |
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19:27.56 | carols | samuncle: great |
19:28.00 | carols | welcome to the irc channel. |
19:28.01 | dirkhh | dhans: thanks... I'm just trying to follow the instructions in the manual :-) |
19:28.07 | bliss-sid | First time to an IRC.....Its quite amazing to see the way everyone interacts |
19:28.12 | olly | dhans: i have the empty list too (though it's not really a "tab") |
19:28.14 | carols | there's some tea around here somewhere... |
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19:28.20 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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19:28.58 | slurpee | bliss-sid: welcome to IRC :) |
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19:29.03 | dhans | dirkhh: olly: yeah, the manual is more than one year old and some parts are outdated, unfortunately :( |
19:29.06 | olly | dirkhh: looks like the backup admin is automatically made an admin now |
19:29.10 | madrazr | dhans: we should make that a sticky note or something. It is likely that question will come up often :) |
19:29.20 | olly | which is a nice little improvement |
19:29.31 | dhans | olly: indeed :) it works this year |
19:29.42 | olly | what does "seen by org" mean? |
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19:29.56 | carols | olly: i think the best improvement this year is the fact that this irc channel isn't full of people asking why the list of orgs number is not correct. |
19:30.00 | samuncle | thanks |
19:30.02 | carols | that alone is saving my sanity |
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19:30.20 | dhans | olly: that you or another organization admin has seen (opened) the connection |
19:30.22 | olly | carols: yeah, that's much better for everyone |
19:30.23 | samuncle | ^^ |
19:30.28 | bliss-sid | Well,i have not fixed any real bugs so far....Should i give GSOC a try this year? |
19:30.29 | carols | olly: and means 300 less emails. |
19:30.37 | dhans | olly: it might be helpful when more and more people start applying |
19:30.39 | carols | bliss-sid: do you want to give gsoc a try this year? |
19:30.42 | n|west | carols: you're doing great work |
19:30.50 | olly | dhans: it's a bit odd that's it's "no" for the original two admins |
19:30.52 | carols | n|west: thanks. i appreciate you saying so. |
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19:31.02 | DaSpirit | My org got rejected :( |
19:31.17 | carols | have some tea, DaSpirit |
19:31.28 | bliss-sid | carols: Yes i do...How should i start....I am really interested.. |
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19:31.38 | samuncle | and blender is accepted too |
19:31.41 | dhans | olly: it is a bit odd indeed... I will note it down |
19:31.41 | carols | bliss-sid: have you read the faqs and the student manual? |
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19:32.43 | bliss-sid | carols: I have and i have also got source code of organization i want to work on for sometime...but have not been able to fix any bugs so far |
19:32.50 | Benzi-Junior | ok one slight confusion about the announcement earlier, was it only announcing what organizations where accepted regardless of projects |
19:32.57 | carols | bliss-sid: have you spoken to the org about that? |
19:33.16 | carols | Benzi-Junior: what's confusing? i don't think i understand what the problem is |
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19:33.53 | Jed__ | Is this program only for advanced programmers? The only programming course I took is an intro to C++ course, but all the projects I've seen so far are so advanced and out of my understanding. Is this program not for people like me? |
19:34.01 | edunham | govg: try that with a forward slash |
19:34.10 | olly | !amigoodenough | Jed__ |
19:34.10 | gsocbot | Jed__: "amigoodenough" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
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19:35.12 | DaSpirit | Were there any good orgs that got rejected due to lack or room? |
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19:35.25 | carols | DaSpirit: sure, every year there are. |
19:35.26 | carols | lots. |
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19:35.33 | DaSpirit | Well, darn. |
19:35.34 | Kunda | carols: We have a mentor asking us about the part in the agreement that states: "YOU HAVE FULL LEGAL AUTHORITY TO BIND THE MENTOR ORGANIZATION TO THIS AGREEMENT" |
19:35.43 | DaSpirit | Now I need to find another org to sell my soul to. |
19:35.44 | bePolite | wow |
19:35.45 | Kunda | what does this mean ? |
19:35.46 | carols | Kunda: okay, what's the question? |
19:35.58 | Kunda | carols ^ |
19:36.09 | carols | Kunda: it means you have the authority to sign the agreement for yourself...you're not signing it for someone else or under duress |
19:36.24 | carols | and you agree to be legally bound to it. |
19:36.44 | Kunda | carols, can you repeat that..i just cleared my screen |
19:36.55 | dirkhh | olly: dhans: yes, once I found the right link in "Connections" I saw that the backup admin and the first mentors already are listsed |
19:36.58 | carols | Kunda: it means you have the authority to sign the agreement for yourself...you're not signing it for someone else or under duress |
19:36.59 | dirkhh | automagical :-) |
19:37.15 | Kunda | carols, yes, thank you |
19:37.18 | carols | yw |
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19:37.34 | dirkhh | notices that carols has a 'yw' bot... very useful :-) |
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19:37.44 | carols | dirkhh: do i? |
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19:38.27 | olly | dirkhh: she has a special keyboard layout: YWTEACOFFEE |
19:38.28 | dirkhh | It sure looks that way, carols. Or maybe you just have impressively good manners and great ability to immediately respond to every "thanks" :-) |
19:38.39 | dirkhh | wants that keyboard |
19:38.41 | carols | dirkhh: it's the latter. |
19:38.53 | dirkhh | also wants coffee (wanders off to get lunch) |
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19:39.14 | olly | just need xmodmap and an indelible marker |
19:39.25 | Benzi-Junior | carols: looking through the list of accepted organizations there is no specifications of an accepted project, are the projects only assesed with the student application or ? |
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19:39.43 | carols | Benzi-Junior: specifications? you mean their ideas page? |
19:39.45 | carols | i'm confused. |
19:39.50 | joshwambua_ | ! Next |
19:39.51 | bliss-sid_ | Anyone else here trying for gsoc the first time? |
19:39.56 | gsocbot | joshwambua_: "next" is accepted orgs will be announced feb 24th 19:00 UTC |
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19:41.05 | unitraxx | Benzi-Junior: The projects will be picked, once the student have submitted their applications. |
19:41.06 | olly | Benzi-Junior: "project ideas" are just a source of things you might write a proposal about - it's your proposal which gets acccepted or rejected |
19:41.21 | unitraxx | s/student/students |
19:41.43 | Benzi-Junior | unitraxx & olly : ok thanks that cleared things up |
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19:43.20 | palash_mittal | bliss-sid_: yeah me.. |
19:43.26 | scuttlemonkey | carols: we were looking to engage the Inktank PR agency to spread the word about GSoC. Those things always seem to go further with a quote of some sort. Think we could snag/attribute something from one of you admin-types? :) |
19:43.51 | bliss-sid_ | palash_mittal: Have u solved any bugs so far? |
19:44.04 | carols | scuttlemonkey: can you please email me? |
19:44.16 | KolibriOS|yogev | carols: On behalf of KolibriOS project, I would like to sincerely thank you and GSoC team for accepting us this year. |
19:44.17 | Palash | bliss_sid: me too |
19:44.27 | carols | KolibriOS|yogev: you're welcome |
19:44.31 | User_ | bliss_sid: me too |
19:44.35 | carols | all 190 of you don't have to individually thank me |
19:44.37 | scuttlemonkey | carols: absolutely, you just carols@google? |
19:44.39 | carols | it would take far too long |
19:44.43 | carols | scuttlemonkey: yes |
19:44.53 | KolibriOS|yogev | carols: Sorry I felt I must :-( |
19:44.55 | carols | just do a good job with the students, that's thanks enough for me |
19:44.59 | User_ | bliss_sid: not yet,looking for that |
19:45.33 | Palash | bliss_sid: i've been making personal projects! |
19:45.33 | Jed | And 1 of you better accept me. ;) |
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19:48.57 | downey | brews a thank-you pot of tea |
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19:49.38 | KolibriOS|yogev | Jed: You have to submit the application first. I cannot accept you if you don't submit any application :-) |
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19:50.20 | slurpee | Any other orgs start to become nervous ~1.5 hours ago? |
19:51.10 | stqism | slurpee: Who didn't? |
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19:53.50 | Ivanovic | carols: is there a logo/icon somewhere which we can use in our "we got accepted" celebration news entry? |
19:54.06 | carols | Ivanovic: the gsoc 2014 logo doesn't work for you |
19:54.07 | carols | ? |
19:54.10 | tkamppeter | Hi, I need help for the Linux Foundation (lf). On my Dashboard under "My Organizations" there is no organization listed, so I cannot get to the profile this way. Following the link in the e-mail of being accepted I get to the input form of the org application, no fields for an address or so. |
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19:54.22 | Ivanovic | carols: where is it? in the past there were different versions |
19:54.33 | brlcad | carols: so statistics for this year? how many applied vs accepted? |
19:54.51 | carols | brlcad: 371 applied (actually 372, but one org applied twice, so i'm not counting it) and 190 accepted |
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19:55.00 | carols | Ivanovic: https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/GsocLogos |
19:55.05 | Ivanovic | thanks! |
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19:55.17 | cryos | is very pleased that VTK was accepted this year, looking forward to a great summer of code! |
19:55.26 | _leroy_ | Sooo... Now students can discuss projects with orgs and apply for projects they are interested in? |
19:55.45 | Palash | _leroy_: yeah! |
19:55.45 | carols | _leroy_: sure. you could do that before too. |
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19:56.10 | d3r1ck | carols: can i have some tea? |
19:56.18 | carols | d3r1ck: sure, help yourself |
19:56.31 | d3r1ck | carols: ok thanks |
19:56.37 | carols | yw |
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19:59.49 | carols | tkamppeter: madrazr or dhans can help you |
20:00.01 | carols | tkamppeter: or #melange |
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20:01.12 | tkamppeter | carols, thank you very much. |
20:01.25 | carols | yw |
20:02.00 | madrazr | tkamppeter: give me a moment, let me get back to you. I am checking something |
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20:02.46 | tkamppeter | madrazr, OK. |
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20:07.10 | madrazr | tkamppeter: multiple things |
20:07.53 | madrazr | tkamppeter: 1. "My Organizations" link is deprecated. It should have been removed already but as we realized from a question from one of the org admins earlier that it is still hanging in there |
20:08.12 | madrazr | tkamppeter: the current way of reaching the organization profile edit form is to go to "Managed Organizations" and choosing the organization there |
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20:08.23 | sumanah | Oh I'm looking through the GSoC mentoring orgs list now! 45 new orgs! |
20:08.33 | carols | sumanah: nice, huh? |
20:08.36 | downey | :-) |
20:08.38 | carols | i'm really proud of that this year. |
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20:09.38 | sumanah | carols: :) I know that y'all will probably be blogging about those new orgs and I look forward to reading about those. |
20:09.50 | carols | sumanah: assuming they submit posts to us ;) |
20:09.54 | madrazr | tkamppeter: 2. We don't collect the organization address right now |
20:10.01 | tkamppeter | madrazr, I went there, but I get exactly the fields of the org applications, nothing to fill in anm address or so. |
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20:10.03 | carols | it's like pulling teeth getting folks to submit blog posts sometimes.. |
20:10.20 | madrazr | tkamppeter: did any of the emails to you suggest that you need to provide the organization address? |
20:11.34 | slurpee | Reviewing the list of accepted orgs is fun. So many cool interesting projects. Wish I was a student! |
20:11.58 | tkamppeter | madrazr, there was a link in the mail pointing to http://en.flossmanuals.net/melange/org-application-period/ and asking to look in the section "Our Organization was accepted! How do I create my organization homepage?". There was talked about an address. |
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20:12.14 | sumanah | carols: thank y'all, once more, for the pre-made presentation template. I used it on Friday and it made a GSoC info session far easier to do. |
20:12.34 | carols | sumanah: wonderful. you're welcome. i'm glad it helped. and thanks for doing a gsoc info session :-) |
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20:13.18 | sumanah | carols: have you been one of the people going on the GSoC countries world tour? :) (10 countries, right?) |
20:13.24 | Palash | I'm a student here and I'm applying GSOC for the first time. Can anyone here guide me? I'm interested in web development and Django! any help would be appreciated :) |
20:13.33 | sumanah | Hi Palash, welcome. |
20:13.35 | carols | sumanah: i have. i went to romania, poland and australia |
20:13.49 | stqism | carols: Curious, submitted my preferences, when do we learn how many students we'll get? Can't really start our internal mentor selection process without knowing :P |
20:14.00 | carols | stqism: have you looked at the timeline? |
20:14.19 | sumanah | carols: oh neat, I have never been to Romania or Poland. If there are any new insights/lessons learned (from the tour) about GSoC, I'd love to hear them |
20:14.20 | tkamppeter | madrazr, now I see that the LF is already visible under the accepted orgs (when clicking big red "Start Connection" button on home page). |
20:14.21 | stqism | carols: Yes, though I won't admit to doing so in detail |
20:14.24 | JordiGH | Palash: I'd like some help finishing Agora: http://wiki.octave.org/Summer_of_Code_Project_Ideas#Finish_the_Agora_website |
20:14.39 | sumanah | Palash: so, it's great that you already know some things you're interested in :) |
20:14.41 | JordiGH | Palash: Or fixing Savannah: https://savannah.gnu.org/ |
20:14.54 | carols | sumanah: the romanians were super excited we were there. :-) the australians still wanted to know why gsoc is on the wrong schedule |
20:15.08 | madrazr | tkamppeter: sorry about that, the manual is a little obsolete at this point. We have had quite a lot of changes very recently to the way organization applications and home page creation works. |
20:15.10 | Jed__ | Only took an intro to C++ programming course, don't have a background in computer science. If any organization has projects for someone with my beginner level experience, please post your ideas page. ;) |
20:15.12 | sumanah | Palash: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 lets you look at a lot of organizations by "tag" which might include "django" or "python" or "web" :) |
20:15.21 | madrazr | tkamppeter: it was all to make the org home page creation smoother and automatic |
20:15.23 | stqism | April ;-; |
20:15.44 | Palash | sumanah: I'd be glad to help you out |
20:15.51 | madrazr | tkamppeter: there is too much activity and recent changes, our manual is struggling to keep up with it |
20:15.53 | tkamppeter | madrazr, so then is all OK for me and no further action required? |
20:15.54 | sumanah | carols: Got it :) |
20:15.55 | madrazr | tkamppeter: sorry about that though |
20:16.07 | Palash | JordiGH: I'd be glad to help you out :) |
20:16.15 | carols | sumanah: it didn't get us more org apps this year, which is kind of a shame |
20:16.16 | sumanah | Hi Jed__! Welcome. :) |
20:16.41 | Jed__ | Hi sumanah. |
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20:16.43 | madrazr | tkamppeter: yes! If your org appears in the public list of accepted orgs, from there if you can navigate to your org's home page and be able to click on ideas page and go to it, then all good |
20:16.45 | Palash | sumanah: I've seen the organizations who have Django ! |
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20:17.41 | sumanah | Palash: great! You should go ahead and start looking at those. Have you ever tried to look at an open source community before? http://blog.melchua.com/2010/10/08/possesa-fri-5-minutes-of-improvisation/ gives you an idea of one way to look at an open source project to see whether it's someplace you want to contribute to |
20:17.57 | kfogel | remembers the link sumanah pointed at |
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20:18.28 | sumanah | Jed__: Have you already looked for "c++" in the tags at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 ? That's one place to start |
20:18.45 | sumanah | (hi kfogel. :) which organisations are you affiliated with that are mentoring for GSoC this year?) |
20:18.54 | Hamish_typo_mob | anyone know what happened to http://www.booki.cc/gsoc-mentoring/ ? (http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/ is still ok) |
20:20.00 | carols | Hamish_typo_mob: that's a question for the floss manuals folks |
20:20.01 | carols | Hamish_typo_mob: they changed their URLs at some point |
20:20.03 | User_ | hi when selecting org to which i have to give priority for intrest or knowledge(which i know)?? |
20:20.20 | Jed__ | <PROTECTED> |
20:21.09 | carols | brlcad: you around? |
20:21.18 | madrazr | brlcad: HI |
20:21.22 | madrazr | oops, sorry |
20:21.24 | madrazr | Hi |
20:21.26 | stqism | Jed__: What have you been looking at? :P |
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20:21.56 | sumanah | Jed__: I understand :) Jed__ I'm not sure whether this particular set of developers is ready to mentor, but you should take a look at this mailing list post http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-February/074658.html If you can talk with those developers and come up with a project idea they would be interested in mentoring, then Wikimedia could be the mentoring organization |
20:22.34 | sumanah | carols: I'll try to encourage more orgs to apply next year. |
20:22.35 | Palash | sumanah: Your link has helped me tremendously! I shall contribute something to the Open Source Community tonight !! |
20:22.42 | sumanah | Palash: :D that's wonderful to hear. |
20:22.47 | kblin | kfogel: hey there, haven't seen you around in a while :) |
20:23.01 | carols | sumanah: fair enough. i just thought that our efforts at outreach this year would be more directly applicable, but i guess not... |
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20:23.58 | sumanah | carols: I could speculate on things that stop orgs from applying and on how to get more apps, if you want, but it's probably mostly stuff you've thought of |
20:24.12 | carols | sumanah: sure. maybe a discussion to have offline. |
20:24.18 | sumanah | OK. |
20:24.22 | carols | or at the mentor summit-student reunion this year. |
20:24.26 | carols | if you come. |
20:24.34 | Jed__ | stqism: various orgs like KDE to see if I could find something I can do with my level of knowledge. All projects I've seen so far are beyond me, so I likely won't be participating. |
20:24.52 | stqism | Jed__: Hey, don't led that discourage you. |
20:24.53 | Jed__ | Not a computer science student, so I lack a lot of fundamental knowledge |
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20:25.06 | stqism | Jed__: First and foremost, believe in your own ability. |
20:25.16 | sumanah | carols: I will consider coming! I have recently been trying to offer that kind of travel opportunity to other people who could use it for career growth/networking better than I can, but this year I'll consider it if I think I have stuff to contribute |
20:25.23 | Jed__ | sumanah: thanks, I'll see. |
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20:28.11 | Palash | sumanah: I had a doubt! Do the students who don't solve bugs get selected in GSOC? |
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20:29.13 | kblin | biojavascript? |
20:29.14 | downey | sumanah: I'd like to hear that talk, too :) |
20:29.18 | kblin | ooooooh |
20:30.19 | kfogel | hey, kblin, hey sumanah |
20:30.25 | kfogel | sumanah: http://archesproject.org/ |
20:30.41 | tkamppeter | madrazr, yes, this all works, I tried it with another browser (where I am not logged in) now, so visitors are seeing our offer. Thank you very much! |
20:30.52 | kblin | oh, cool, OBF also made it this year |
20:30.53 | kblin | awesome |
20:31.16 | madrazr | tkamppeter: cool! Congratz on making it to GSoC 2014! |
20:31.20 | madrazr | tkamppeter: np |
20:31.30 | madrazr | kblin: Ah! I caught you :P |
20:31.33 | sumanah | Hi! Sorry, was distracted by talking about reaching out across economic class lines to help people get empowered with open source |
20:31.41 | sumanah | (in a face-to-face chat) |
20:31.42 | tkamppeter | madrazr, thanks. |
20:31.44 | madrazr | carols or kblin: Do you happen to know where is this channel logged? |
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20:31.55 | olly | !logs | madrazr |
20:31.55 | gsocbot | madrazr: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
20:32.03 | carols | what olly said |
20:32.05 | madrazr | olly: awesome! thanks! |
20:32.08 | madrazr | carols: thanks! |
20:32.10 | rvraghav93 | sumanah: hi |
20:32.12 | olly | madrazr: logs only appear midnight UTC though |
20:32.13 | sumanah | downey: which talk? talking with Palash about whether students get picked if they haven't fixed any bugs yet? |
20:32.21 | olly | and infobot was offline for some of the last day |
20:32.28 | madrazr | olly: ah, that's sad |
20:32.30 | olly | which we think is what records the logs |
20:32.39 | sumanah | Palash: so, it does increase your chance of being selected if you fix a bug by the proposal deadline |
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20:32.41 | downey | sumanah: The "wary orgs" talk |
20:32.49 | stqism | sumanah: That's up to an org |
20:32.49 | sumanah | rvraghav93: Hi there! |
20:32.56 | rvraghav93 | sumanah: I know py and cpp well but frankly am new to open source ... just trying out a few stuff .. so can you suggest me a gud org?? |
20:33.01 | sumanah | stqism: yes, you're quite right. |
20:33.11 | kblin | madrazr: is is something you said recently? :) |
20:33.17 | sumanah | downey: got it :) |
20:33.20 | rvraghav93 | thot of sympy ... but it intimidates me :? |
20:33.22 | Cervator_ | Question - the meeting for rejected orgs on Friday (much sadness) - will that be able to reveal the exact reason for rejection, such as "simply not enough space" or "project not noteworthy" or just provide general guidance if something like an ideas page was simply lacking? I ask as we had our ideas page reviewed here and all appeared well, so I'm not sure what to improve for 2015 :-( |
20:33.33 | Palash | sumanah: Thanks for the tip! I'd be happy to help !! |
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20:33.40 | sumanah | rvraghav93: Can you talk about what specifically intimidates you? |
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20:33.41 | stqism | rvraghav93: I recommend finding something you like on http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 |
20:33.46 | sumanah | (about SymPy) |
20:33.56 | kblin | Cervator_: in the past it was very specific |
20:34.10 | carols | Cervator_: yes, we reveal the exact reason. whether that reason is satisfactory to you i cannot guarantee |
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20:34.16 | rvraghav93 | as in its full of math :P im much into coding and stuff ... the level of math is too high there ... |
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20:34.24 | rvraghav93 | sumanah: ^ |
20:34.26 | Cervator_ | Thanks - that's what I was hoping :-) |
20:34.32 | madrazr | kblin: what did I say recently? Or is that an expression? :P |
20:34.48 | stqism | rvraghav93: Compsci is generally math :P |
20:34.49 | sumanah | rvraghav93: Ah, I understand. What open source tools do you currently use? Have you looked to see whether any of them are mentoring this year? |
20:35.31 | tierra | olly: wx made it in this year :) |
20:35.35 | rvraghav93 | sumanah: i gave 2 bugfixes to simplecv ... unfortunately they arent taking part :/ |
20:35.49 | kblin | madrazr: you said "ah, I caught you" and then asked about the logs |
20:35.58 | rvraghav93 | stqism: hah ! but that sympy is scientific freaky kinda math :P |
20:36.05 | olly | tierra: I saw, congratulations |
20:36.08 | carols | madrazr: did you get brlcad on the line? |
20:36.10 | sumanah | rvraghav93: by the way, have you already read http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch005_choosing-an-organization/ ? |
20:36.26 | olly | tierra: don't get distracted from 3.0.1 though |
20:36.29 | rvraghav93 | nope ... will do thanks for pointin out ! |
20:36.31 | madrazr | brlcad: no, not yet. Looks like he is away |
20:36.36 | tierra | hehe, certainly |
20:36.45 | kblin | madrazr: so I thought you asked me something before and wanted to recall the specifics |
20:36.45 | olly | though it mostly seems to be OS X bugs left |
20:36.47 | sumanah | rvraghav93: the whole "book" that includes that page is a very good guide. |
20:36.58 | madrazr | oops carols I mean |
20:37.02 | madrazr | carols: no, not yet. Looks like he is away |
20:37.09 | carols | ok, that's fine |
20:37.50 | madrazr | carols: I will wait for a bit more and if we don't see brlcad online we will probably send an email |
20:38.01 | carols | madrazr: sure, works for me |
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20:38.09 | kblin | aw, it looks like org "a" didn't make it |
20:38.10 | sumanah | By the way, rvraghav93, Palash, stqism, I'm Sumana Harihareswara. I work for the Wikimedia Foundation, which is one of the mentoring organisations this year. I live in New York City. :) |
20:38.17 | sumanah | (introduce yourself?) |
20:38.25 | madrazr | kblin: ah no, I was waiting to see you active to ask that question |
20:38.38 | olasd | so, um, I want my mentors to register on melange early (for once). what should I have them do, I haven't seen detailed instructions go by |
20:38.40 | kblin | madrazr: ah, fair enough |
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20:39.11 | olasd | AIUI the first step after you log in is to create a user profile, and then you can connect to the organization? |
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20:40.34 | Palash | sumanah: I know wikimedia. I've heard about it. Isn't it the one powering wikipedia? I'd love to learn more in that aspect! |
20:40.52 | stqism | sumanah: Okay, I'm Sean, a project lead for Project Tox, dealing with financial, legal, operations, temp pr, and I'm one of our speakers. Based out of Southern California. |
20:40.56 | carols | olasd: you should speak to madrazr |
20:41.01 | stqism | Palash: ^^ |
20:41.10 | sumanah | Palash: oh I'm glad you've heard of us! Yes, we are the organization behind Wikipedia. I don't want to take up this channel here to talk about me/us, but in #mediawiki we can talk |
20:41.25 | rvraghav93 | sumanah: Im Raghav R V , a pre final year student with electronics as my major aspiring to participate in gsoc... Im gud at py and cpp and a linux maniac too , to introduce myself ... |
20:41.49 | Jed__ | Only need to know HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. I think I found the first project I'm going to apply for. ;) |
20:41.57 | sumanah | :) |
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20:42.22 | sumanah | Good to meet you all :) |
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20:43.11 | sumanah | stqism: Just looking at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/tox now. A FLOSS alternative to Skype - great! |
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20:43.34 | madrazr | olasd: same URL as the one you used to create your personal profile on Melange - http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/register/org_member/google/gsoc2014 |
20:43.38 | Palash | stqism: :) |
20:43.43 | madrazr | olasd: they can go and create a profile there |
20:44.08 | madrazr | olasd: however, you have to invite them to become mentors of your organizations so that you can assign student proposals to the mentors |
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20:44.42 | olasd | ok |
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20:45.57 | kblin | madrazr: ok, I'm a bit confused myself this time around. if I also want to mentor, do I need to request a role from myself? |
20:46.00 | madrazr | olasd: for that you can use the "Connect users with <your org name>" link under "Connections" on your dashboard to invite your mentors to be mentors of your orgnanization |
20:46.01 | stqism | sumanah: Thanks :) really don't want to spam #gsoc though |
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20:46.27 | sumanah | stqism: I don't think any of us do :) |
20:46.28 | madrazr | olasd: alternatively, they can click on "Connect with organizations" link to request to become mentors for your organization |
20:46.33 | madrazr | olasd: either works |
20:46.46 | olasd | madrazr: perfect, thanks |
20:46.49 | madrazr | kblin: all org admins are mentors, so no |
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20:47.29 | olasd | (http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/connection/start/user/google/gsoc2014/<org short name> would be the link for a mentor to request a connection with the org, afaict) |
20:47.38 | madrazr | kblin: if you see this behavior to be erratic, please let us know. There might be some rough edges since profiles went through a lot of rework recently |
20:47.58 | kblin | madrazr: ok, just like in the past years. I forgot if I was supposed to see anything in "my organisations" or not |
20:48.06 | nwinter | How can I find out how many student proposals we'll be allowed to accept? |
20:48.16 | carols | nwinter: you wait until slot allocations. |
20:48.20 | kblin | nwinter: are you a new org? |
20:48.30 | nwinter | Yes (CodeCombat). |
20:48.41 | kblin | welcome, and awesome! |
20:48.43 | madrazr | olasd: correct, except <org short name> should be <org id> |
20:49.04 | olasd | right, right |
20:49.08 | nwinter | Thanks! We're excited, and a bunch of students are already swarming our chat room. |
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20:49.46 | madrazr | kblin: "My organizations" is deprecated now, we were supposed to remove the link altogether but it has not happened |
20:49.48 | kblin | nwinter: so, with the disclaimer that despite having ops in this channel I'm in no way involved in rnning gsoc, new orgs in the past year only got very few slots (usually 2, iirc) |
20:50.06 | kblin | madrazr: ok, fair enough :) |
20:50.13 | madrazr | kblin: the latest and the greatest way to access all your org related things in Melange now is through "Managed Organizations" |
20:50.30 | madrazr | :D |
20:50.45 | kblin | yeah, I found that |
20:50.57 | madrazr | kblin: cool! |
20:51.23 | carols | nwinter: you can also read this in the meanwhile: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/studentallocations |
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20:52.00 | kblin | !slots |
20:52.00 | gsocbot | kblin: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
20:52.12 | carols | thanks kblin |
20:52.21 | carols | we should have you on the payroll ;-) |
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20:53.19 | kblin | carols: perhaps I should pitch google on doing some cool biotech research ;) |
20:53.39 | nwinter | Ah, thanks for the info–that's exactly what I missed when looking for it. |
20:53.51 | carols | kblin: there's so much biotech in gsoc this year! |
20:53.51 | carols | it's crazy. |
20:53.59 | kblin | carols: I saw, yes |
20:54.04 | Ivanovic | kblin: are you participating in gsoc this year? |
20:54.09 | kblin | Ivanovic: totally |
20:54.14 | Ivanovic | cool! |
20:54.17 | Ivanovic | which org(s) |
20:54.22 | kblin | I've also blocked some vacation for the mentor summit :) |
20:54.32 | sumanah | Yay biotech! |
20:54.35 | carols | kblin: i wish i could block some vacation for the mentor summit |
20:55.03 | kblin | Ivanovic: same old, actually. Samba and WF |
20:55.07 | nwinter | Is there a guideline for a rough ratio of student proposals to acceptances that we can expect? |
20:55.23 | kblin | nwinter: uh, tough one |
20:55.24 | JordiGH | !numbers |
20:55.27 | carols | nwinter: nope. do you know how many proposals you're going to get? :-) |
20:55.31 | carols | nwinter: i sure don't |
20:55.33 | JordiGH | Hey, where's that bot thing? |
20:55.35 | olly | !numapps |
20:55.35 | gsocbot | olly: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were accepted. |
20:56.25 | kblin | nwinter: you're hitting a lot of the buzzwords, I guess you'll get a good number of applications |
20:56.35 | olly | it seems a lot of students start at the top of the list, so I expect if you're AerospaceResearch.Net you'll get more than average |
20:56.48 | olly | and probably lower quality that average |
20:56.51 | Beornwulf | looks at the timings, realises that the student part starts straight after easter, so clashes with the summer term and exams. not sure how much of an issue that will be? |
20:56.53 | kblin | !forget slots 2 |
20:56.54 | gsocbot | kblin: "slots" is Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2. |
20:57.19 | kblin | !learn slots as http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/studentallocations |
20:57.20 | gsocbot | kblin: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/studentallocations |
20:57.47 | carols | Beornwulf: a great question to ask the potential mentoring organization |
20:57.51 | JordiGH | I wonder if 1 or 2 slots would be non-crazy for Octave, since we had 8 last year under GNU. |
20:57.59 | JordiGH | But I want to focus back down to 4 this year. |
20:57.59 | kblin | Beornwulf: that's traditionally the case, and hasn't been too much of a problem in the past years |
20:58.03 | Beornwulf | carols: that makes sense, thanks |
20:58.06 | carols | yw |
20:58.20 | Beornwulf | kblin: good to hear, thanks |
20:58.38 | carols | JordiGH: 1 or 2 slots is never crazy. more than 2 slots is when we start to think harder about it. |
20:58.50 | JordiGH | carols: Even if we had more sluts under GNU? |
20:58.53 | JordiGH | slots |
20:58.54 | JordiGH | slots, dammit |
20:58.58 | nwinter | I think we could get a ton of applications, especially if we write a blog post encouraging CodeCombat people to apply. |
20:59.03 | JordiGH | blushes |
20:59.04 | JordiGH | Sorry... |
20:59.09 | carols | JordiGH: we'll think about it. it's a balancing game with the other 189 orgs. |
20:59.15 | carols | JordiGH: it's fine, it was a typo. |
20:59.47 | carols | JordiGH: but we've got 1,333 slots to give out this year.. |
20:59.49 | carols | so who knows |
21:00.12 | Jed__ | lol JordiGH |
21:00.29 | JordiGH | carols: What, where did the other 4 slots go? |
21:00.32 | stqism | About 7 slots to give? Odd |
21:00.39 | carols | JordiGH: what? |
21:00.53 | carols | is confused |
21:00.55 | downey | 1337 |
21:00.56 | blast007 | a 1337 joke ;) |
21:00.58 | JordiGH | carols: Y'know... |
21:01.01 | stqism | ;-; |
21:01.01 | carols | i see. |
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21:01.09 | gevaerts | would have expected 1333.333... slots :) |
21:01.10 | carols | you're going to have to serve more coffee to do jokes like that |
21:01.16 | nwinter | I'll make sure to emphasize that it'll probably be very competitive, then. |
21:01.39 | carols | nwinter: better for your org :-) |
21:01.40 | downey | gsoc should run 1338 slots, to be one more than leet |
21:01.47 | olly | so 10/0.0075 student places I guess |
21:03.07 | kblin | gevaerts: want to mentor 1/3 of a student? |
21:03.21 | wkoszek | carols: Hi Carol. I'm FreeBSD project mentor. We'd like to send some FreeBSD+GSOC posters to universities, just like the last year. We don't need any permission to do that, right? |
21:03.27 | gevaerts | kblin: depends. Is it the part with the brain in it? :) |
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21:03.39 | carols | wkoszek: are you modifying the logo in any way or making money from the posters? |
21:04.08 | Jed__ | I've opened and closed the ideas pages for almost all the organizations now. |
21:04.24 | sumanah | Wow! |
21:04.35 | sumanah | Jed__: maybe you should write up a blog post reviewing the ones you liked best :) |
21:04.43 | wkoszek | carols: We're making our own poster with GSOC logo unmodified + FreeBSD logo on the same A4 page. No money is made on that. We just send PDFs to secretaries in hope they forward it to students/print and stick the posters to univ. door. |
21:04.54 | carols | wkoszek: then no, you don't need permission |
21:05.01 | carols | wkoszek: you can also just use our flyers too.. |
21:05.04 | carols | just an idea. |
21:05.09 | carols | whatever works for you. |
21:05.23 | wkoszek | carols: Sure. We were thinking about that too. |
21:05.28 | carols | wkoszek: great |
21:05.32 | carols | then you're off to the races |
21:05.38 | carols | go forth and spread the word about gsoc |
21:06.06 | wkoszek | Yeah. Last time I sent some stuff to Stanford, they insisted on contacting you and I remember I made us send a lot of emails to figure it out. |
21:06.14 | wkoszek | This year I'd like it to be better. |
21:06.24 | carols | wkoszek: i appreciate that everyone's worried about doing the Right Thing :-) |
21:07.01 | wkoszek | carols: Figuring out problems later via e-mail is harder. |
21:07.02 | gevaerts | The Right Thing is obviously to relax with a cup of tea |
21:07.10 | carols | wkoszek: indeed |
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21:07.56 | kblin | carols: while we all think that you certainly deserve your vacation, we're all trying to make you less desperate in need of one ;) |
21:07.57 | downey | takes a cup of the Right Thing |
21:08.11 | carols | kblin: i appreciate that :-) |
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21:08.38 | kblin | scratches his head |
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21:09.45 | kblin | completely unrelated, I need a bit of cultural advice from an indian person, is there somebody who could /query me for a quick chat? |
21:09.59 | sumanah | kblin: I'm Indian-American, happy to help |
21:10.13 | kblin | great, thanks :) |
21:10.19 | sumanah | but others should feel free to help if they are sourcelanders :) and not diaspora like me |
21:10.39 | Jed__ | if an organization is rejected, is it possible to still submit a proposal through google's "open source programs office"? |
21:10.53 | carols | Jed__: um, no...the ospo isn't for orgs |
21:10.57 | carols | it's for students |
21:11.19 | Jed__ | carols: I mean is it possible for students to submit a proposal for any open source organization? |
21:12.17 | stqism | Jed__: Any org that applied |
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21:12.48 | olly | Jed__: the OSPO org only accepts a handful of students each year, so it's a more difficult route not an easier one |
21:12.53 | anth_x | ….and was accepted. |
21:12.54 | carols | Jed__: sure, of course.. |
21:12.54 | carols | you choose who you want to work with |
21:12.54 | carols | but keep in mind ospo is a very special case |
21:12.54 | carols | Jed__: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#16._What_if_there_is_no_organization |
21:13.27 | Jed__ | Ok, thanks. carols, olly, stqism |
21:13.33 | carols | yw |
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21:18.15 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
21:19.27 | warthog9 | mmmm tea |
21:19.32 | carols | hey warthog9 |
21:19.36 | carols | long time no see |
21:19.37 | warthog9 | waves |
21:19.58 | warthog9 | yup, been busy |
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21:20.10 | carols | me too |
21:20.11 | warthog9 | building bridges, checking k-9 out now that he's home |
21:20.23 | carols | is he napping ?:-) |
21:20.26 | downey | k-9 needs an IRC presence |
21:20.30 | warthog9 | right now, yes |
21:20.35 | carols | :-) |
21:20.48 | warthog9 | downey: hmmmm shouldn't be too hard |
21:20.58 | downey | warthog9: would give gsocbot a run for its money |
21:21.19 | warthog9 | downey: very true! |
21:21.59 | warthog9 | there's even been talk of a 1/2 size version called P(uppy)-9 |
21:22.14 | warthog9 | I.E. easier to tote around the world |
21:22.41 | sumanah | oh hi Nightrose - which org(s) are you adminning this year? |
21:22.53 | Nightrose | sumanah: hey :) kde again |
21:22.56 | Nightrose | of course! :P |
21:23.03 | kshitij8_ | kblin: did you get the cultural advice you were looking for? |
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21:25.01 | sumanah | Nightrose: I recommended http://open-advice.org/ again today :) thanks again for making it happen |
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21:25.20 | kblin | kshitij8_: yes, thanks |
21:25.22 | Nightrose | sumanah: yay \o/ so happy to see it still getting used |
21:25.45 | kshitij8_ | :) |
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21:34.12 | irish32 | hi! in the GNU project homepage, there are many organizations - are all of them participating in gsoc this year? |
21:34.40 | carols | irish32: they're providing an umbrella for those orgs, most likely |
21:34.45 | carols | irish32: did you ask them about it? |
21:35.13 | wkoszek | Can I check how many slots each org got? |
21:35.15 | kblin | sumanah: thanks, most helpful :) |
21:35.22 | carols | wkoszek: no. but i'll tell you why. |
21:35.27 | carols | wkoszek: because no one knows yet. |
21:35.37 | wkoszek | carols: OK. |
21:35.38 | kblin | wkoszek: sure, just wait until the accepted students are announced |
21:35.49 | irish32 | no, i haven't made contact with them yet. |
21:36.00 | carols | irish32: that would be a good first step. |
21:36.12 | sumanah | I'm very glad to help, kblin :) |
21:36.18 | wkoszek | Ah. It's that we accept students first based on the applications quality and then we know how many slots we got. |
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21:36.59 | kblin | !slots | wkoszek |
21:36.59 | gsocbot | wkoszek: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/studentallocations |
21:37.23 | stqism | Cool, accepted 2 and a half hours ago, had 7 students contact me. |
21:37.33 | carols | kblin: i get the impression that us doing slot allocations after students apply is confusing to people. |
21:38.26 | kblin | wkoszek: but yes, you provide a sorted list to google, google decides how many slots you get, the top n students are accepted |
21:38.29 | irish32 | i sometimes feel a bit hesitant to ask directly on their irc. it sometimes feels its all only about the money. |
21:38.33 | kblin | actually it's a bit more complex than that |
21:38.42 | kblin | but the gist is like that |
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21:39.11 | sumanah | irish32: Do you mean you feel hesitant to give the impression that you are particularly interested in the GSoC stipend? |
21:39.37 | kblin | irish32: well, money does buy food and the like, that's good :) |
21:39.53 | meflin | and tea dont forget the tea |
21:39.58 | carols | irish32: we like you being able to eat while you code :-) |
21:40.07 | kblin | tea you can get here |
21:40.17 | Jed__ | if you don't want it, donate to charity ;) |
21:40.32 | olly | carols: it is, though I'm not sure you could sensibly allocate slots before knowing where students were applying |
21:40.51 | carols | olly: i agree. |
21:41.02 | sumanah | irish32: I think there are also some people who prefer GSoC because they want a structured and mentored onramp into open source contribution. And that is completely fine. We all learn in different ways |
21:41.20 | kblin | carols: what olly said, what use is having 15 slots available if we only have 3 good proposals |
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21:41.35 | gevaerts | irish32: actually, if you look at the gnu ideas list, it has a list of projects that take part |
21:41.38 | carols | kblin: again, i agree. but it seems like the process is confusing to people nonetheless? |
21:41.59 | kblin | actually that might also pressure people in accepting more half-baked proposals |
21:42.19 | irish32 | @sumanah basically yes. i like coding and i like money too :), but i don't want to be in it only for the money. |
21:42.25 | olly | kblin: i was wondering the same |
21:42.35 | Jed__ | I wish we could do more than 5 proposals |
21:42.42 | kblin | carols: I think confusion is the basic state of consciousness |
21:42.43 | sumanah | irish32: That totally seems reasonable to me. :) |
21:42.46 | kblin | Jed__: nah |
21:43.02 | kblin | Jed__: I doubt you can do 5 proper ones :) |
21:43.03 | olly | i'd hope most people did the right thing and returned them to the pool but then the final slot allocations would end be far from the initial ones, so the intial one wouldn't be very useful anyway |
21:43.21 | kblin | Jed__: and by you, I don't mean you personally, but people in general |
21:44.45 | olly | though we're in a situation where we're likely to be limited by available mentors rather than slots, so not knowing doesn't affect us as much as some orgs |
21:45.21 | carols | kblin: oh, how true it is. |
21:45.22 | carols | olly: they do, and do you know how you know? |
21:45.22 | carols | olly: because the last few years we've accepted less students than we had total slots availabile |
21:45.24 | kblin | carols: If I come up with a less confusing approach, I'm happy to share. |
21:45.36 | scuttlemonkey | carols: regarding slot allocation...would it be too confusing to privately subsidize additional slots after the google-sponsored ones have been decided? Or should that be done completely outside of GSoC? |
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21:45.57 | carols | scuttlemonkey: that is completely outside of gsoc, i have nothing to do with that |
21:45.58 | kblin | scuttlemonkey: usually you'd do that outside of gsoc |
21:46.04 | carols | shudders at the idea of more administration |
21:46.11 | carols | kblin: much appreciated. |
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21:46.50 | olly | carols: that's interesting (and reassuring) |
21:46.52 | gevaerts | scuttlemonkey: of course, if you run a proper gsoc-like program, you're expected to send carols a pair of new-program-themed socks |
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21:47.10 | carols | olly: yeah, the last 3 years we've had 1,250 spaces, but we've accepted less than that |
21:47.18 | carols | what gevaerts said |
21:47.21 | scuttlemonkey | haha, fair enough...perhaps some nice squid socks compelte with tentacles and teabag holsters |
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21:47.41 | kblin | scuttlemonkey: you're with ceph? |
21:47.54 | scuttlemonkey | kblin: that's me :) |
21:48.01 | kblin | cool :) |
21:48.03 | techietim | carols: is the reason for not filling all the slots due to inadequate student proposals? |
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21:48.13 | carols | techietim: yes |
21:48.15 | kblin | that's what I love about gsoc |
21:48.22 | olly | heh, I'd assumed the 1212 last year was deliberately picked as a "nice" number |
21:48.25 | kblin | all these really cool projects around |
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21:48.43 | carols | olly: nope, that was the amount of good student proposals we ended up having out of 1,250 |
21:49.05 | olly | or at least ones which the org had mentors available for |
21:49.08 | scorche|sh | well, that isnt to say that if you were turned down, you werent good =) |
21:49.23 | scorche|sh | this is on a per-organization basis, of course ;) |
21:49.29 | carols | what scorche|sh said |
21:49.31 | kblin | what olly and scorche|sh said |
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21:50.09 | kblin | I remember years where I had seven great applications, all for the same project idea |
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21:52.36 | sumanah | (hi bkuhn, always glad to see you) |
21:52.58 | bkuhn | greetings sumanah |
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21:56.35 | kblin | ahoi bkuhn |
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21:59.50 | bkuhn | :) |
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22:00.56 | carols | bkuhn and kfogel in gsoc this year |
22:01.04 | carols | don't know if i've seen that happen before :-) |
22:01.18 | bkuhn | I certainly haven't been a mentor since the very first few years. |
22:01.23 | bkuhn | I only actually mentored once before. |
22:01.30 | bkuhn | this will be just my second time mentoring. |
22:01.40 | carols | bkuhn: congrats on getting into gsoc :-) |
22:01.46 | kfogel | carols: it's been a while for me too |
22:01.51 | bkuhn | carols: thanks! |
22:02.06 | carols | kfogel: congrats to you as well :-) |
22:02.11 | kfogel | carols: though to be fair, I'm more "meta-mentoring" this year; that is, I'm helping the real devs on the Arches Project be mentors, though I think they don't need as much help as they think they need. |
22:02.19 | kfogel | carols: thank you |
22:02.32 | carols | kfogel: but the real question everyone wants to know is.. |
22:02.36 | carols | can we get gsoc 2014 suspenders made? |
22:02.39 | kfogel | carols: HAH |
22:02.44 | bkuhn | is usually a meta-mentor. |
22:02.46 | bkuhn | that's my MO. |
22:02.47 | kfogel | carols: If you make 'em, I'll buy 'em. |
22:02.53 | bkuhn | I actually call myself a "meta-org-admin" |
22:02.59 | carols | kfogel: i wouldn't sell them, it'd just be for fun :-) |
22:03.04 | bkuhn | I even tried to convince this status to be created in Melange once. |
22:03.07 | kfogel | bkuhn: one who meta-admins orgs, or one who admins meta-orgs? :-) |
22:03.10 | carols | bkuhn: you play the meta-org-admin role most years |
22:03.16 | bkuhn | True. |
22:03.25 | bkuhn | kfogel: well, most Conservancy projects apply on their own, have their own org-admin. |
22:03.34 | bkuhn | I usually wrangle the org-admins. |
22:03.50 | bkuhn | So I guess meta- is wrong. org-admin-admin is probably right. |
22:03.51 | bkuhn | But this year. |
22:03.59 | bkuhn | In addition to that, I'm a Real Mentor again. |
22:04.13 | carols | bkuhn: you've got one up on me. i've never been a Real Mentor. |
22:04.15 | kblin | hehe, congrats |
22:04.17 | Slurpee | backup-meta-org-admin? |
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22:04.48 | kblin | carols: in return, you get to wrangle the most org admins |
22:04.53 | bkuhn | Geppetto, I'm a real boy this year! |
22:05.01 | carols | kblin: it's a tough job but somebody's gotta do it. |
22:05.09 | carols | bkuhn: haha |
22:05.48 | kblin | carols: I remember sombeody saying "best job at google" ;) |
22:06.10 | carols | kblin: i do have the best job at google. but wrangling org admins is still difficult |
22:06.17 | carols | good jobs can still be challenging. |
22:06.32 | kblin | fair enough :) |
22:06.43 | kblin | I think all good jobs are |
22:06.50 | carols | agreed. |
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22:07.48 | carols | maybe i'll take suggestions on where my vacation after the mentor summit should be this year. |
22:08.04 | gevaerts | Easy |
22:08.06 | gevaerts | Zurich! |
22:08.19 | carols | gevaerts: in october? won't it be cold? |
22:08.25 | carols | november, really |
22:08.35 | gevaerts | Oh, right! I forgot :) |
22:08.56 | carols | i'm thinking somewhere warm |
22:09.03 | carols | maybe hawaii. |
22:09.09 | kblin | but 11 hours less of a plane ride... |
22:09.25 | downey | carols: shameless plug for florida |
22:09.28 | meflin | Santa Fe / ABQ New Mexico :D |
22:09.29 | wkoszek | carols: So with enough convincing here, FreeBSD, as a well established org participating in GSOC since the beginning, will get enourmously large number of students, right? |
22:09.37 | carols | downey: florida? that's so...not exotic ;-) |
22:09.54 | Slurpee | Speaking of wrangling *-mentor...do any orgs have any recommendations on wrangling tactics that worked or did not work? |
22:10.00 | kblin | downey: aren't we either too young or too old for florida? |
22:10.17 | Slurpee | carols: if you're willing to go to Hawaii, why not go a little further to Fiji? |
22:10.19 | carols | wkoszek: you haven't even seen your student apps yet. why do you care about slot allocations at this point? |
22:10.28 | carols | Slurpee: i think fiji is a great idea. |
22:10.29 | meflin | Slurpee: mostly choose well and keep tabs on them |
22:10.39 | sumanah | Slurpee: To check for commitment, I believe we have a videoconference call with the mentors very early in the process, before the proposal deadline I believe |
22:10.43 | kblin | Slurpee: do you have an out-of-band method to contact your mentors? |
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22:11.22 | kblin | I had the occasional moment where being able to just call the mentor was very helpful |
22:11.37 | sumanah | I agree with kblin |
22:11.39 | downey | carols / kblin try jupiter island or something along those lines :) |
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22:11.47 | carols | downey: that could work. |
22:11.56 | Slurpee | kblin: at Drupal we had a few interesting ideas. I was curious what did and did not work for other orgs. Example, this year we contacted all student/mentor alumni to participate in 2014. |
22:12.14 | wkoszek | carols: Because I spent hours on proposing cool ideas on ideas page and I'd love to see them all picked by students :) |
22:12.22 | kblin | sumanah: on the out-of-band contact or the "not the right age for florida" thing? ;) |
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22:12.37 | wkoszek | carols: But you're right--we have to see what the applicants come up with. |
22:13.01 | sumanah | kblin: the out-of-band contact :) |
22:13.11 | carols | wkoszek: let's not put the cart before the horse. :-) |
22:13.27 | Slurpee | carols: Fiji is easier than you think. I have been three times. The biggest decision is which of the 300+ islands to visit. |
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22:13.53 | kblin | Slurpee: we need one that can fit all the mentos and has a decent internet connection |
22:14.00 | kblin | mentors |
22:14.08 | ankitsablok89 | I want the channel for Gambit |
22:14.15 | carols | Slurpee: that sounds like a wonderful problem to have |
22:14.16 | ankitsablok89 | can anyone provide me with that |
22:14.20 | wkoszek | carols: Your Polish visit was GSOC related? I want to involve some Polish universities too. |
22:14.22 | kblin | !anyone | ankitsablok89 |
22:14.22 | gsocbot | ankitsablok89: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://goo.gl/yxeB0 |
22:14.29 | carols | wkoszek: indeed it was |
22:14.41 | wkoszek | carols: Which cities you had a chance to visit? |
22:14.45 | kblin | hmm, I wonder if that link still is right |
22:14.52 | carols | wkoszek: for gsoc, or just in my travels? |
22:14.57 | Slurpee | carols: each islands has it's own type of attractions. Some people want to relax in luxury...some people want to go scuba diving...some want to surf...some want it all... |
22:15.04 | kblin | nope |
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22:15.10 | carols | Slurpee: how wonderful. you're selling me on fiji. |
22:15.12 | wkoszek | carols: both :) |
22:15.16 | kblin | !forget anyone |
22:15.20 | gsocbot | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
22:16.02 | kblin | !learn anyone as Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 |
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22:16.53 | ankitsablok89 | I found that @kblin but I am not able to find its irc node |
22:17.01 | Slurpee | carols: watch Fiji Airways (aka Air Pacific) website @ http://www.fijiairways.com/ - the prices change all the time and they post interesting deals on round trip flights from LAX. |
22:17.12 | olly | ankitsablok89: not all orgs use IRC |
22:17.23 | downey | carols: wait, couldn't you just fly the gsoc plane down to your vacation destination? |
22:17.47 | gsocbot | kblin: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 |
22:17.50 | carols | wkoszek: for gsoc i went to bucharest, sydney, perth, and warsaw and gdansk. that's just in the last few months. the list gets much longer if we're just talking about general travel |
22:17.50 | carols | ankitsablok89: if they don't list it on their melange homepage they may not want you to contact them through that method |
22:17.50 | carols | ankitsablok89: you should use whatever method they provide |
22:17.50 | carols | Slurpee: i'm pretty darn close to sold, i have to say |
22:17.58 | olly | fiji's nice, at least when they aren't busy having a coup or similar |
22:18.09 | kblin | ok, bedtime for me, have fun |
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22:18.24 | carols | downey: ssshhh |
22:18.24 | carols | i don't want to hear any more from you. |
22:18.26 | carols | :-P |
22:18.36 | carols | see you tomorrow kblin |
22:18.59 | downey | runs off to charter a flight to cape verde |
22:19.10 | Slurpee | carols: did I mention 1.00 USD = 1.87719 FJD ? |
22:19.19 | carols | Slurpee: wow, that's awesome |
22:19.43 | carols | makes me want a coconut and a beach chair. |
22:19.48 | ankitsablok89 | Still confused I am |
22:19.49 | ankitsablok89 | :( |
22:20.00 | carols | ankitsablok89: how can we help unconfuse you? |
22:20.40 | ankitsablok89 | I checked out their site |
22:20.44 | carols | great |
22:20.46 | ankitsablok89 | but there is no irc node |
22:20.50 | ankitsablok89 | available |
22:20.53 | carols | i don't think they use irc. |
22:20.56 | ankitsablok89 | where I can talk to developers |
22:20.58 | carols | that's not confusing, that's just a fact. |
22:21.04 | ankitsablok89 | so how shall I contact them then |
22:21.17 | Slurpee | carols: the actual fiji money is cool too :) http://i17.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/c3/ec/3f2a_35.JPG |
22:21.20 | carols | ankitsablok89: you will need to surf around their website and their ideas page, probably |
22:21.36 | carols | Slurpee: is that the plastic stuff? romania is using the plastic now, it's awesome |
22:21.54 | Slurpee | carols: it is similar to paper. I have seen the plastic in Australia though. |
22:21.59 | carols | Slurpee: nice. |
22:22.01 | downey | plastic money like plastic playing cards? |
22:22.09 | carols | downey: like..not paper :-) |
22:22.15 | Slurpee | downey: it is very difficult to rip the currency notes. |
22:22.30 | downey | right |
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22:23.18 | Slurpee | Traveling all the time it is difficult to purchase and carry souvenirs. Because of this I collect currency from various countries. |
22:23.55 | downey | Slurpee: that makes it much more convenient on your return to country X :) |
22:25.35 | Slurpee | downey: yeah, I was kinda bummed when all the European countries joined in on the Euro ;) |
22:25.46 | downey | Slurpee: most of the places i go can't afford plastic money so i travel with a roll of clear tape :) |
22:25.53 | Slurpee | currency collector items :) |
22:26.05 | Slurpee | downey: that works too. |
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22:27.28 | downey | hi, maryr :) |
22:28.27 | maryr | downey: hi there :) |
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22:34.07 | Slurpee | carols: I found a good article breaking down the various Fiji islands for new users. I have done a lot of research into Fiji and this appears to be a great place to start - http://www.lonelyplanet.com/fiji/travel-tips-and-articles/77671 |
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22:34.15 | carols | Slurpee: wow, thanks :-) |
22:34.17 | carols | that's awesome |
22:34.56 | Slurpee | carols: the goal is to fly into Nadi which is on Viti Levu and get to another island as quick as possible. |
22:35.09 | carols | Slurpee: or the goal is to relax. |
22:35.21 | Slurpee | There will be a little transportation involved such as loading a boat ride to another island. |
22:36.06 | Slurpee | Well the main island is good, but it is mainly a transport hub. Yes, there are really nice hotels on the main island such as Westin/Sheraton, but the real treat is on the other islands. |
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22:36.52 | Slurpee | Many people fly into Nadi, stay on main island first day, then travel to another island following morning. |
22:37.06 | Slurpee | or use Nadi as a place to stay night before departing. |
22:37.15 | carols | sounds great. i'll definitely check it out. |
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22:40.01 | carols | MatthewWilkes! |
22:40.41 | MatthewWilkes | carols! |
22:40.54 | MatthewWilkes | carols: My thanks to you and your team for your faith in us! |
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22:41.19 | carols | MatthewWilkes: you're welcome. it was a very nice (accessible) ideas page this year. |
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22:41.46 | MatthewWilkes | carols: :/ |
22:41.49 | carols | :-) |
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22:42.49 | MatthewWilkes | carols: In my defence, I wasn't org-admin *that* year |
22:42.55 | MatthewWilkes | makes excuses |
22:42.59 | carols | MatthewWilkes: mmm hmm. |
22:43.07 | carols | right. |
22:44.50 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Also, the sun was in my eyes |
22:44.59 | carols | MatthewWilkes: sure. |
22:45.01 | carols | i believe you. |
22:45.03 | MatthewWilkes | and… er… aliens? |
22:45.13 | meflin | you had black death |
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22:46.41 | MatthewWilkes | meflin: You joke, but the black death plays havoc on workflow |
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22:51.26 | kshitij8 | meflin: now that org list has been published can you reveal the org you're associated with? |
22:52.09 | meflin | Python and Syncdifferent |
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22:54.00 | meflin | is going to have to order more tea |
22:54.03 | kshitij8 | ohh... they sound good. (I just had to know the big secret you were keeping) :) |
22:54.25 | meflin | wasn't much of a secret :D |
22:55.12 | kshitij8 | wasn't it? I recall you being all 007 about it. ;-) |
22:55.31 | meflin | I've mentioned python before |
22:55.39 | meflin | I was a bit cadgy about the other |
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22:59.08 | kshitij8 | cool. Hope you have a fun summer with new hatchlings. :) |
23:00.05 | meflin | already under atack :D |
23:00.58 | kshitij8 | wonder what they'll do to by the end of student application phase. :D |
23:01.10 | kshitij8 | s/do to/do to you/ |
23:01.29 | meflin | well they can't drive me insane its way way to late for that :D |
23:02.03 | carols | meflin: how many students have contact you so far? |
23:02.08 | carols | *contected |
23:02.10 | carols | sigh |
23:02.12 | carols | contacted |
23:02.16 | carols | has more tea |
23:02.19 | meflin | Sync-2 ... python hard to tell sub-orgs :) |
23:02.28 | carols | meflin: cool |
23:02.42 | meflin | and both students also followed up on irc already .. 1 with patches .... |
23:02.55 | carols | wow, that's fast |
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23:03.55 | meflin | well patch |
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23:04.14 | andrew_sz | How we submit our proposals? I mean we should upload a pdf or just fill a form on the melange site? |
23:04.27 | meflin | fill out the form :) |
23:04.36 | carols | andrew_sz: have you read the faqs and such? |
23:04.52 | carols | andrew_sz: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#4._How_does_a_student_apply |
23:05.02 | carols | sorry, didn't mean to make that bold |
23:05.51 | andrew_sz | ahh, I found it just by reading it again :) "submitting your proposal via the Google Summer of Code site" |
23:05.55 | andrew_sz | Thank you |
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23:07.24 | kshitij | <PROTECTED> |
23:08.03 | meflin | well let us wait untill the proposals are in :D |
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23:11.12 | scottScott | who |
23:12.01 | Arthur_D | the Doctor |
23:13.24 | carols | scottScott: did you need a question answered, or was that just a slip of the keyboard? |
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23:21.12 | fgnievinski | is this the right place to report broken links on google-melange.com? |
23:21.35 | techietim | Is there a recommended number of hours a week a student should put in to their project? This discussion from a couple years ago leads me to believe it's around 40 hours a week, which seems a bit high https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-summer-of-code-discuss/d98o_kPAxdE |
23:21.45 | carols | fgnievinski: #melange would be a better place |
23:21.56 | fgnievinski | cool, thx |
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23:22.19 | carols | techietim: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#11._How_much_time_is_required_to |
23:23.21 | ThomasWaldmann | techietim: gsoc is a full-time job, do not do other major jobs in parallel |
23:23.37 | olly | techietim: focussing only on a number of hours isn't totally helpful, but most orgs i've discussed it with expect you to treat it like a full-time job |
23:24.06 | ThomasWaldmann | people tried multiple jobs, and failed |
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23:25.04 | darnir_ | techietim: There isn't any upper or lower limit on the number of hours per week. It depends on the complexity of your project and is completely based on the mentoring organization. |
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23:25.32 | darnir_ | However, it is true that GSoC should be considered a full time job and hence a 40-hour week seems just about fine. |
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23:28.01 | techietim | olly: The reason why I was curious about the number of hours per week was to figure out what the hourly rate worked out to be. |
23:28.56 | ThomasWaldmann | if that's your main concern, you maybe shouldn't do it. |
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23:30.21 | gh_ | techietim, in some countries, full time means 35 hours/week |
23:31.15 | olly | very good in some countries, in others it's a more interesting way to make comparable money to what you might get in a low-skill summer job (and to learn more useful skills than you'd get from that) |
23:32.29 | ThomasWaldmann | and now compute what mentors get per hour <scnr> |
23:33.27 | gh_ | techietim, putting aside the number of hours per week issue, I think the most important is to be in daily contact with the mentoring organization, to participate and be responsive (by IRC, mailing lists, etc.) |
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23:35.44 | techietim | ThomasWaldmann: I understand that participation in the program has a degree of benevolence about it, but at the same time, university isn't cheap. |
23:36.31 | techietim | gh_: I will certainly do that. Thank you. |
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23:38.00 | ThomasWaldmann | techietim: you'll get a lot of knowledge and experience you'ld have to pay for at other places (well, if comparable places would exist) |
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23:39.09 | ThomasWaldmann | techietim: but I understand you have to pay the bills. |
23:39.13 | randomax | Hi ThomasWaldmann , are you mentor for any of the orgs ? |
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23:39.26 | ThomasWaldmann | no, not this year |
23:39.36 | ThomasWaldmann | just hanging around still |
23:40.00 | mmadia | +numstats |
23:40.04 | mmadia | !numstats |
23:40.04 | gsocbot | mmadia: "numstats" is There are 14 statistics in !numapps. |
23:40.13 | mmadia | !numapps |
23:40.14 | gsocbot | mmadia: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were accepted. |
23:43.48 | olly | gsocbot: learn numapps as In 2014, 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were accepted. 2013: 117/417 orgs; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students) |
23:43.49 | gsocbot | olly: "numapps" is (#1) In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were (1 more message) |
23:43.58 | olly | gsocbot: forget numapps 1 |
23:43.59 | gsocbot | olly: "numapps" is In 2014, 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were accepted. 2013: 117/417 orgs; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students) |
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23:48.22 | mmadia | thanks olly. :) |
23:50.53 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
23:50.59 | carols | yes, thanks olly |
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23:51.57 | olly | slurps tea |
23:52.26 | downey | prepares chocolate mint oolong tea for desert |
23:52.41 | carols | that sounds tasty. |
23:53.00 | downey | oh yes |
23:53.57 | downey | it's from stash tea in pdx |
23:54.01 | downey | (fwiw) |
23:54.13 | carols | yum. |
23:54.19 | Arthur_D | stash of what now ;P |
23:54.37 | downey | Arthur_D: tea :P |
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