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| 04:26.53 | kreynen | as an org admin, should I be able to see potential mentors who've requested a connection to my org in melange? |
| 04:30.03 | olly | kreynen: yes |
| 04:30.20 | olly | on the dashboard, it's "connections to my org" or something like that |
| 04:30.23 | kreynen | olly: found it… connections in Dashboard |
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| 04:34.38 | CodeMad | Hi |
| 04:35.06 | CodeMad | Are there any mentors here? |
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| 08:07.48 | blues | hi |
| 08:08.20 | Guest99591 | I would like participate |
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| 08:21.05 | yatharth01 | hey there! Is it better to go with org ideas or a self one is good? |
| 08:21.20 | waldi | ask the org |
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| 08:23.10 | cff | yatharth01: depends what your idea is |
| 08:23.58 | yatharth01 | cff: can u elaborate? |
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| 08:27.27 | cff | yatharth01: if you're project idea is good enough (or great) from the point of view of the organization's members, and you're really sure & enthusiastic about it, you should definitely go with your idea, otherwise choose one that you consider appropriate for your skill level & interest or the one which after discussions with mentors/organization members is deemed to be appropriate for you |
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| 08:30.44 | ashepelev | Hello! I have a question. Who choose the best ideas to apply in GSoC: the org or Google? |
| 08:31.10 | ashepelev | Or orgoogle? :-) |
| 08:31.20 | olly | the org |
| 08:31.31 | ashepelev | olly: thanks |
| 08:31.35 | olly | well, the orgs generate the lists of ideas |
| 08:31.39 | olly | google picks the orgs |
| 08:31.58 | olly | the orgs also pick which students they want from those that apply to them |
| 08:33.12 | ashepelev | olly: thank you, now I have enough information |
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| 08:56.59 | archana | hello everyone |
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| 08:57.58 | archana | I just have a small query ....to be cleared about the application process |
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| 09:00.41 | archana | could anyone please help me out |
| 09:00.57 | kblin | can you just ask you question please? |
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| 09:04.19 | archana | kblin:as the time line suggests we have to discuss the projects with the poyential mentors till 10 march |
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| 09:04.59 | archana | so if we need to register as a student we dont have to register anywhere before 10 rite? |
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| 09:07.43 | olly | archana: you don't have to register until you submit your proposal |
| 09:08.01 | olly | but i wouldn't leave it too late as you need to provide proof your a student then |
| 09:08.43 | archana | olly: so do I need to register now |
| 09:08.56 | archana | can you send me the link please |
| 09:09.03 | coderbrahmin_ | what are the documents needed for the registration? |
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| 09:09.42 | kblin | I'm not sure if it's possible to register as a student already |
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| 09:10.34 | olly | ah yes "Registration opens on March 10, 2014, 7 p.m. UTC" |
| 09:10.39 | olly | which is on the front page |
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| 09:12.05 | olly | coderbrahmin_: the faq covers that |
| 09:12.33 | coderbrahmin_ | Okay. Thank you. olly |
| 09:13.06 | archana | olly:sending the proposals are just part student registration |
| 09:13.30 | olly | no, they're separate steps |
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| 09:14.59 | PulkoMandy | archana: as a student, now it's time to start talking with orgs and finding one you want to work with - and you can even start discussing your proposal with them, even if you can't submit/register yet |
| 09:15.10 | PulkoMandy | so you are ready to submit everything when time comes |
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| 09:16.56 | archana | PulkoMandy: I discussed them with the potential mentor and asked him if I could draft a proposal now....then he said ki he is participating for the first time so he is not very aquainted with the process |
| 09:17.24 | olly | you certainly can start on your proposal now |
| 09:17.54 | PulkoMandy | yes, it's a good idea to do that and have the mentor review it, so you can improve on it |
| 09:20.04 | olly | yep |
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| 09:26.38 | archana | olly: so once I submit my proposal on the melange website will I have no scope to improve it |
| 09:26.57 | olly | you can edit up until the deadline |
| 09:27.52 | olly | but the mentors are notified when you first submit, and each time you update |
| 09:28.47 | darnir | But that's fine. I've never seen a mentor complain about too many such notifications |
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| 09:29.08 | olly | darnir: really? |
| 09:30.11 | archana | olly:is it necessary to fix some bugs before the deasline |
| 09:30.21 | archana | *deadline |
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| 09:30.27 | olly | archana: that's up to the org |
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| 09:30.56 | olly | most orgs will expect a bug fix or patch or similar, or at least favour candidates who provide one |
| 09:31.23 | olly | it's a good way to guage the student's abilities |
| 09:31.39 | archana | olly:do you have any idea what twitter does |
| 09:32.28 | olly | provide the modern opium of the people? |
| 09:33.23 | uchihaitachi | How am I supposed to contact an organisation who's mailing list is rejecting my mails even though I have subscribed to it and no one is responding at the IRC? |
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| 09:34.06 | PulkoMandy | uchihaitachi: I guess you can't. Maybe it's time to look for another org |
| 09:34.53 | archana | olly : modern opium means |
| 09:34.59 | olly | uchihaitachi: you could try IRC at a different time of day |
| 09:35.08 | olly | archana: it means I don't really understand what you're asking me |
| 09:35.26 | gevaerts | uchihaitachi: about irc, make sure you're connecting to the right network :) |
| 09:35.57 | uchihaitachi | gevaerts: Yes I am absolutely sure of it. |
| 09:36.02 | gevaerts | OK |
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| 09:36.24 | uchihaitachi | olly: thanks for the tip. |
| 09:36.25 | archana | olly: i mean do you have any idea about twitter's selection process ...means what kind of applicants do they prefer |
| 09:36.25 | archana | ? |
| 09:36.40 | gevaerts | Just asking, because people new to irc may not realise there are different networks in the first place, and the org may not be on freenode |
| 09:36.48 | PulkoMandy | archana: I think it's better to ask this to the twitter guys directly |
| 09:36.58 | olly | archana: i have no idea - ask them if you want to know |
| 09:37.29 | uchihaitachi | gevaerts: It is absolutely fine. I understand. |
| 09:37.31 | olly | different orgs can use quite different selection processes |
| 09:37.35 | archana | okay thanks PulkoMandy and @olly |
| 09:37.50 | olly | i've been involved with 3, and they all vary quite a bit |
| 09:38.42 | darnir | olly: Why? Have you heard otherwise? The way I see it, they'd be happy to see the student constantly refining. |
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| 09:39.09 | olly | darnir: i've certainly seen people moan at getting an email every time a word is changed |
| 09:39.18 | olly | and there not being any way to see the changes made |
| 09:39.38 | archana | olly: are you participating this time too? |
| 09:39.45 | olly | yes |
| 09:39.54 | gevaerts | understands some of this moaning |
| 09:39.55 | darnir | Oh yes. That's true. But most people I've spoken to said they simply ignore these mails unless the student specifically asks |
| 09:40.02 | PulkoMandy | well, I think we had the student add a comment to tell us when they were ready for the next review round |
| 09:40.14 | gevaerts | I don't know the current status, but I've been known to complain about those emails not having diffs :) |
| 09:40.34 | olly | darnir: i mostly mentioned it as students often seem surprised to learn that we get a mail every time they resuvmit |
| 09:40.37 | olly | resubmit |
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| 09:40.53 | darnir | Yes. I was surprised myself when I found out. |
| 09:41.40 | PulkoMandy | I guess this may be more annoying for popular orgs - we don't get enough students for it to become a problem |
| 09:41.48 | PulkoMandy | or maybe we will this year - let's see :) |
| 09:42.25 | darnir | I see this being a problem for umbrella orgs. Python/GNU/Apache/Gnome/KDE They usually have around 40 slots. That's way too many mails. |
| 09:46.20 | archana | danir: and how many applicants do they recive... |
| 09:47.03 | darnir | I don't have any concrete figures. I'd have to pull them from thin air. |
| 09:47.43 | darnir | But, looking at how popular these are, I'd be guessing atleast 70. (Assuming 40 slots that it) |
| 09:48.50 | gevaerts | I'd be guessing in the hundreds |
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| 09:50.48 | archana | PulkoMandy: In the student's selection process the organisation has the full say or google too has some say |
| 09:51.34 | darnir | And I'd be moaning too if I was receiving 20 mails a day from students who are working on a proposal that I'm not even connected to. These are large organizations, not everyone knows about each project |
| 09:51.35 | PulkoMandy | the org ranks the students, and google decides on the number of slots |
| 09:52.08 | PulkoMandy | and the top N students from the list are picked |
| 09:52.18 | olly | gevaerts is closer, at least for KDE (there are graphs around for some previous years) |
| 09:53.08 | PulkoMandy | I heard most of the applications come on the last day before deadline - these probably don't generate that muchediting noise |
| 09:54.11 | archana | and on what basis are the students ranked basically |
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| 09:54.28 | olly | archana: ask the org - how they rank is up to them |
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| 09:54.58 | olly | if twitter only accepted proposals shorter than 140 characters, that's their choice |
| 09:58.14 | archana | olly: Which org. are you associated with? |
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| 09:59.08 | olly | archana: xapian |
| 10:00.21 | archana | olly: I mean are you associated with any particular organisation as an applicant or a mentor |
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| 10:03.21 | olly | archana: yes, xapian |
| 10:03.35 | archana | olly: as a mentor |
| 10:03.43 | olly | is an org admin |
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| 10:05.04 | archana | olly: so what are the prerequisite of applying for your org. |
| 10:05.48 | gevaerts | "more than 140 characters" is part of it |
| 10:06.09 | archana | I know c, c++, java , python, phap, javascript and I am lately working scala |
| 10:06.15 | archana | so can I apply too |
| 10:06.42 | archana | gevaerts: 140 characters is part of what? |
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| 10:06.59 | gevaerts | archana: I'm betting olly wants proposals longer than that |
| 10:07.34 | olly | well, we can't stop you applying |
| 10:07.48 | olly | are you asking how we pick our students? |
| 10:08.34 | archana | olly : ya quite...if i start now will I able to complete my application process by the deadline |
| 10:09.28 | olly | yes, it's still fairly early really |
| 10:10.01 | archana | olly : and how do you rank the students |
| 10:10.28 | ashepelev | archana: yes, it is a very interesting question, really |
| 10:10.40 | archana | based on their proposals only or bug fix n all also counts |
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| 10:11.09 | olly | what we've done previously is to have someone make a first pass and make 3 piles - not worth considering further, definitely worth considering, and everything else |
| 10:11.56 | olly | that's mostly so we can save mentor time - people are free to look at the rejects, but so far nobody's argued for a proposal put there |
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| 10:12.24 | alcedine_ | olly: is that based on quality of the application or your judgment of the topic? |
| 10:12.42 | olly | the application and the student |
| 10:12.52 | ashepelev | archana: I think the combination of all factors. Understanding the idea, previous contrubutions to the community, technology and programming language knowledge and experience, providing the timeline, the mentor must know who you are and what you can do |
| 10:12.56 | olly | so long as it's on topic, that's all that matters |
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| 10:13.14 | olly | yeah, what you want to work on is the least important thing really |
| 10:13.31 | PulkoMandy | well, I may as well answer for my org (Haiku): we expect the student to join our IRC channel and/or mailing list and show some interaction with other developers, and require them to submit a patch (no matter how small) to make sure they can make simple changes to C++ code, compile and test it, and use our bugtracker |
| 10:13.36 | olly | we don't want you writing an accounting system (as someone really proposed before) |
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| 10:14.25 | olly | yeah, we require a patch too |
| 10:14.32 | archana | olly; so you dont have preference for some projects on the ideas list |
| 10:14.37 | PulkoMandy | this already gets most of the filtering done - then we review the proposals. Our idea list has a very short description of the idea, so it's easy to see if the student did some research to build a real proposal out of them, or just copypasted the idea without further thinking |
| 10:14.42 | darnir | We'd expect the same. Atleast some prior interaction with mentors and a patch. Interacting on the mailing lists would be a huge plus |
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| 10:15.03 | olly | archana: i personally find some more interesting, but i'm unlikely to pick one student over another because of that |
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| 10:15.23 | olly | but some orgs may have more of a shopping list of things to do |
| 10:15.25 | gevaerts | archana: I suspect this will matter in an "all else being equal" situation |
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| 10:15.59 | PulkoMandy | oh, and we actually are welcoming students to come with an idea not on our list, too - as long as it somewhat relates to our project, of course |
| 10:16.05 | olly | really, if something was vital to get done, we wouldn't stick it on a gsoc projects list and hope a suitably qualified student happens to see it and want to do it |
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| 10:17.13 | ashepelev | olly: I have a small question. I haven't provided any patches or bug corrects for community. However, I used to integrate it using it's API to environment in my university. I can produce all the sources and scripts I used to maintain, do you think it's OK? |
| 10:17.14 | archana | PulkoMandy: does prior contribution to other open souce organisations count in the selection process |
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| 10:17.36 | PulkoMandy | no, not really - the point of GSoC is to get you started with that |
| 10:18.29 | PulkoMandy | you can show us what you did, if you happen to have contributed to something, but it's not a blocker if you didn't |
| 10:19.11 | darnir | archana: I think most would consider. Prior contributions atleast help your case since it allows the mentors to see the quality of your code and communication with the community |
| 10:19.14 | olly | ashepelev: unless you're applying to xapian, I can't really usefully answer that |
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| 10:19.20 | darnir | But as PulkoMandy states, it's not a blocker. |
| 10:19.41 | olly | i know we'd prefer a patch as we can then also see the process of you working through it |
| 10:20.17 | archana | like if I choose to work for an c++ organisations and I have contributed to linux kernel in the past wich is also based on c++ will thta help too |
| 10:20.39 | olly | the linux kernel is C not C++ |
| 10:20.49 | gevaerts | Actually, that would be a serious point against you :) |
| 10:20.53 | olly | unless someone killed linus and i missed the news |
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| 10:21.14 | destroyer | Does knowing one or two language the org use is sufficient to get selected ? |
| 10:21.51 | archana | olly: ya it uses c I am sorry |
| 10:22.07 | PulkoMandy | archana, if you know C++, that will make it easy for you to write a patch for our code - this is what we will look at |
| 10:22.08 | ashepelev | destroyer: You should somehow prove your knowledge providing some of your projects, source, etc |
| 10:22.26 | PulkoMandy | if you think your patch for us is too small, you can also show us a place where you wrote more code |
| 10:22.50 | gevaerts | destroyer: if you mean "do you need to know everything they list" then the answer is very likely no. You probably need to know the languages needed for your particular project, but that's it. Of course, that doesn't mean the rest of the proposal is ignored of course |
| 10:23.20 | ashepelev | destroyer: A good way is to share it using Github, launchpad, etc |
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| 10:24.02 | archana | PulkoMandy : the patch for your organisation involves making changes in the codebase rite |
| 10:24.02 | olly | destroyer: you probably only really need to know the languages your project uses |
| 10:24.11 | PulkoMandy | yes |
| 10:24.29 | gevaerts | "probably" is one of the most important words used in here |
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| 10:24.59 | PulkoMandy | in our case, we even have a list of "easy" tickets - you're free to take one of these, or something more difficult |
| 10:25.09 | archana | what kind of changes do u xpect....do u also accept style fixes |
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| 10:25.39 | archana | "easy"tickets means |
| 10:25.54 | PulkoMandy | we accept anything, but remember you're going to be compared to other students |
| 10:25.54 | archana | n how big is the source code |
| 10:26.14 | PulkoMandy | http://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/EasyTasks |
| 10:26.17 | PulkoMandy | here is our list |
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| 10:26.50 | PulkoMandy | and here is our codebase: http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/ I have no idea how big it is |
| 10:27.23 | PulkoMandy | http://www.ohloh.net/p/haiku/ says 5 million lines of code, mostly C++ |
| 10:28.14 | archana | PulkoMandy: and do you people use any scripts or compiler to run the code to find the bugs |
| 10:28.37 | PulkoMandy | this is an operating system - I use it as my main one, and this is how I find bugs |
| 10:28.54 | PulkoMandy | but yes, we have a static analysis software scanning our code, too |
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| 10:29.11 | PulkoMandy | and I gues fixing some of the issues there would be an acceptable patch for a GSoC proposal |
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| 10:30.19 | archana | If I use linux can I use static analysis tools like sparse and coccinale for finding some issues |
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| 10:31.07 | destroyer | i am going to graduate in june 2014. i'm i eligible ? |
| 10:31.12 | archana | I mean linux as my operating system |
| 10:31.39 | gevaerts | destroyer: did you read the faq? |
| 10:32.09 | PulkoMandy | archana: these tools seem specific to Linux - and possibly not working for C++ |
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| 10:33.03 | destroyer | gevaerts: got my answer |
| 10:33.15 | archana | okay PulkoMandy: if i keep my os as linux |
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| 10:33.54 | archana | and still use the stactic analyser to on the code to find some issues |
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| 10:34.40 | PulkoMandy | I don't know if that would work - sparse looks to be designed only for scanning the Linux kernel, and Coccinelle doesn't seem to scan C++? But I don't know these tools, maybe I'm wrong |
| 10:35.17 | olly | i think the key thing is that orgs want *patches to fix bugs* rather than new *bug reports* |
| 10:36.02 | archana | so if i dont change my os can I not apply for haiku |
| 10:36.25 | PulkoMandy | you can run Haiku in a virtual machine |
| 10:36.31 | PulkoMandy | and develop from Linux |
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| 10:37.16 | PulkoMandy | this is part of what we want to check with this patch submission step - that you are able to get that running, recompiling and testing the operating system |
| 10:37.31 | binaryking | hey, is there an age restriction for mentors for GSoC? as in, 18 years or older? |
| 10:37.38 | olly | binaryking: yes |
| 10:37.56 | binaryking | aww :( |
| 10:38.12 | archana | PulkoMandy; actully I already have 3 os running |
| 10:38.35 | olly | binaryking: you can still be involved in the org, but you can't sign up in melange as a mentor |
| 10:39.12 | olly | it used to be allowed, but it seems google concluded it was too problematic legally |
| 10:39.25 | binaryking | I see |
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| 10:58.07 | archana | hey: is anyone applying for twitter projects |
| 10:58.18 | archana | or anyone from twitter? |
| 10:59.03 | olly | !anyone | archana |
| 10:59.03 | gsocbot | archana: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 |
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| 11:03.03 | archana | thanks : olly and gsocbot or pointing that out |
| 11:03.23 | archana | I will take care of that in the future |
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| 11:05.32 | KolibriOS|yogev | PulkoMandy + archana: Regarding static C++ code analyser, you might want to check on: http://www.viva64.com/en/ (If you still haven't). It's not open-source but they pretend it's good :-) |
| 11:06.07 | PulkoMandy | we have access to coverity already - they provide free access to open source projects |
| 11:06.16 | PulkoMandy | and we're far from done sorting out the issues they spot for us |
| 11:06.35 | PulkoMandy | (including many in 3rd party code we have in our repos, such as bash, our antique glibc fork, and a few others) |
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| 11:08.21 | KolibriOS|yogev | PulkoMandy: Oh, ok :-) Was just wondering what this tool would find. They check ReactOS regularly to PR themselves on Russian blogs (because both the tool developers and ReactOS leader are Russian). |
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| 11:08.57 | Aakritty | qemu-gsoc |
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| 11:11.07 | PulkoMandy | KolibriOS|yogev: well, with coverity we get a lot of use-after-free, uninitialized variables, off by one errors, mismatched new[]/delete (or the reverse) and new/free or malloc/delete, and some others |
| 11:11.21 | PulkoMandy | one of our devs started looking into clang warnings, too, we hit a lot of those |
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| 11:12.46 | KolibriOS|yogev | PulkoMandy: What amazes me most is how the code is still working with all those errors :-) |
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| 11:13.19 | PulkoMandy | sometimes it doesn't |
| 11:13.21 | KolibriOS|yogev | I mean, either it shouldn't be working or the errors are not influencing anything. |
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| 11:13.29 | gevaerts | Sounds like *perfect* code for gsoc applicants to patch :) |
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| 11:14.39 | olly | sometimes you get lucky - use after free but the part of the block read is still intact |
| 11:14.46 | olly | (for example) |
| 11:15.05 | olly | the behaviour is undefined, but if nothing overwritten it yet, it happens to do what you wanted |
| 11:15.24 | KolibriOS|yogev | olly: Oh, I see... |
| 11:15.26 | olly | it's a bug waiting to manifest |
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| 11:15.48 | gevaerts | Also, sometimes the bugs are in rare paths, such as cleaning up after errors that won't happen |
| 11:15.57 | olly | and mismatched new/malloc/free/delete might happen to work on a platform where new just calls malloc to allocate |
| 11:16.02 | KolibriOS|yogev | olly: Thanks for giving an excellent example, now it made sense for me. |
| 11:16.05 | olly | but on another platform it might not |
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| 11:16.43 | gevaerts | Like I'm not *entirely* sure the code I added at the end of the rockbox panic handler doesn't freeze the device, but if it does, nobody will notice :) |
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| 11:17.12 | ankush92 | Will a photograph of student identity card from University be sufficient as proof of Enrollment? |
| 11:18.12 | olly | ankush92: i believe the advice is to submit what you have, and they'll get back to you if it's not acceptable |
| 11:18.38 | yatharth01 | ankush92: yes but only if it provides ur enrollment status |
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| 11:19.54 | ankush92 | Okay. Thanks. |
| 11:20.29 | yatharth01 | welcome :) |
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| 11:26.20 | kblin | !cookie |
| 11:26.20 | gsocbot | kblin: "cookie" is omnomnom |
| 11:26.42 | kblin | now be a good bot later tonight, and you'll get another one |
| 11:31.09 | *** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> Org feedback meeting today at 1600 UTC. Change nick to orgname_nick, queue up using !queue http://your/ideas/page | 2014 mentoring orgs announced, list at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC | Student application starts on 10 March, see timeline: http://goo.gl/Anraxm |
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| 11:31.45 | kblin | hmm |
| 11:32.15 | kblin | oh well, that'll be sufficient |
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| 11:57.56 | hereticgod | hi |
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| 12:58.06 | edsiper | *morning |
| 12:58.23 | gevaerts | Good worming! |
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| 13:06.05 | Niharika | Good morning to you edsiper. :) |
| 13:08.29 | edsiper | good morning gevaerts Niharika |
| 13:08.38 | edsiper | full house today, 345 people |
| 13:08.43 | Niharika | Evening for me. ;) |
| 13:08.54 | Niharika | Does everyone get to watch? |
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| 13:25.08 | kblin | it's a public meeting, yes |
| 13:25.45 | innocenat | can orgname in nickname be shortened? |
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| 13:26.19 | kblin | the main idea is to make it easier for us to identify you people :) |
| 13:26.39 | kblin | so as long as it's clear what org you're from, sure |
| 13:26.42 | innocenat | okay, thanks. |
| 13:26.58 | kblin | bonus points if you change your nick before queueing up |
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| 13:29.36 | VarunAgw | !next |
| 13:29.37 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "next" is (#1) The student application period opens on 10th March, or (#2) 28 February 16:00 UTC: IRC meeting with rejected mentoring organizations. |
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| 13:33.54 | uchihaitachi | Does anyone know the selection procedure of INCF? |
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| 13:34.16 | braincode2 | uchihaitachi: it goes like any other on #gsoc |
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| 13:34.45 | gevaerts | I'd hope people at INCF have some idea |
| 13:34.45 | braincode2 | uchihaitachi: you should prepare a great proposal, you can follow this template: https://www.torproject.org/about/gsoc.html.en |
| 13:34.45 | uchihaitachi | You mean fixing bugs? |
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| 13:35.01 | gevaerts | So if you want details, ask them |
| 13:35.42 | braincode2 | uchihaitachi: make sure you write to incf-users@incf.org after subscribing to the mailing list itself: http://lists.incf.org/mailman/listinfo/incf-users |
| 13:36.08 | uchihaitachi | The problem is that there is a big delay from their side for the mails which I send them. |
| 13:36.18 | braincode2 | Alternatively, you can contact the mentor you are interested in directly, all the email addresses are here: http://www.incf.org/gsoc/2014 |
| 13:37.30 | uchihaitachi | That's what the problem is. I contacted a mentor of the project I was interested in, but he takes a day or two to reply. |
| 13:37.44 | uchihaitachi | Well, sometimes three. |
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| 13:39.40 | gevaerts | Well, you have the choice to either live with that or look for a different organisation. However, I'd say expecting faster replies might be a bit unrealistic |
| 13:40.00 | uchihaitachi | Why is that? |
| 13:40.14 | braincode2 | uchihaitachi: most of them are full time professors and researchers, they are very busy, but they'll reply |
| 13:41.14 | uchihaitachi | I guess you are right. That's relieved |
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| 13:41.35 | uchihaitachi | I meant "That relieved me a bit." |
| 13:42.56 | uchihaitachi | Tell me that does any of you know that what exactly is the selection criterion for INCF? |
| 13:43.32 | uchihaitachi | I mean, some organizations ask you to fix bugs while others offer you a task to do. |
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| 13:43.41 | uchihaitachi | So, which one is it for INCF? |
| 13:44.23 | braincode2 | uchihaitachi: it is primarily based on submission quality, if you write a good proposal (see https://www.torproject.org/about/gsoc.html.en for example questions), you'll get higher chances over other candidates |
| 13:45.20 | uchihaitachi | Any other suggestions? |
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| 13:45.57 | braincode2 | no, that should be it :) |
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| 13:46.26 | uchihaitachi | Thank you very much :) |
| 13:46.31 | gevaerts | uchihaitachi: you're only going to get general advice in here. There are 190 organisations in gsoc, and they *all* have different ways of doing things |
| 13:47.03 | uchihaitachi | right |
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| 13:58.28 | null_wang | Hello,Everyone. |
| 13:59.27 | null_wang | Can anyone tell me where are you from ? |
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| 14:03.00 | Palash_ | :D he left !! |
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| 14:36.36 | nixos_iElectric | !queue |
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| 14:41.09 | _xvilka | Can I ask for the reasons of rejecting project, but our admins both not available this time? |
| 14:41.22 | _xvilka | using queue of course |
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| 14:41.59 | yatharth01 | Niharika: u applyin for which orgs? |
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| 14:42.20 | Niharika | yatharth01: Considering TimVideos only for now. |
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| 14:42.27 | Niharika | yatharth01: What about you? |
| 14:42.44 | PulkoMandy | _xvilka: that used to be possible in previous years - no idea if it changed |
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| 14:42.57 | _xvilka | PulkoMandy: thx! |
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| 14:46.04 | KolibriOS|yogev | I think if he is a mentor and not just a random lurker, he probably can. |
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| 14:46.12 | yatharth01 | Niharika: m actuali confused :P |
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| 14:46.45 | Niharika | :) |
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| 14:47.23 | yatharth01 | Niharika: but hope to go for debian, mozilla or melange |
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| 14:47.42 | Niharika | yatharth01: Good luck! |
| 14:48.02 | Niharika | I wanted to apply for Melange, but unfortunately I am on Windows. :\ |
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| 14:50.12 | yatharth01 | Niharika: but you can go for melange even then |
| 14:50.24 | yatharth01 | Niharika: it wont matter dat much |
| 14:50.46 | Niharika | yatharth01: Not all packages required to setup Melange are available on Windows |
| 14:51.00 | blast007 | Niharika: what prevents you from running a Linux VM in VirtualBox? |
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| 14:52.03 | Niharika | blast007: Nothing does. But won´t it be a lot difficult to use git in a VirtualBox? |
| 14:52.14 | blast007 | I don't see why. |
| 14:52.22 | yunatan | test |
| 14:52.48 | blast007 | Just as easy/hard as using it on a physical install. |
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| 14:53.03 | Niharika | blast007: Thanks for the idea. I´ll try doing that. |
| 14:53.06 | null_wang | +1 |
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| 14:54.17 | yatharth01 | Niharika: so you can work on linux, switching isn't that difficult! :/ |
| 14:54.48 | Niharika | yatharth01: I am not risking dual-booting my system. VirtualBox is a way safer option. |
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| 14:56.06 | yatharth01 | Niharika: hehe! dual-booting is systm is just fine. system z not gonna bite you :D |
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| 14:57.34 | null_wang | maybe Niharika thinks using VirtualBox is funny.... |
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| 14:58.11 | carols | yawns |
| 14:58.12 | blast007 | yatharth01: it's fine for some people, but it can be a hassle and a headache |
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| 14:59.05 | funkey_monkey | Niharika: why don't you want to dual boot your system? its completely safe |
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| 14:59.38 | yatharth01 | funkey_monkey: xactly! dats wot i told her |
| 14:59.44 | blast007 | I think we can drop the topic already. Dual-booting is not completely safe. |
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| 15:00.25 | yatharth01 | blast007: actually it depends! its quite safe |
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| 15:01.08 | funkey_monkey | it can be if you're doing it for the first time but you'll never learn it if you don't try!! |
| 15:01.20 | trtetwdeb7herg | - |
| 15:01.31 | yatharth01 | funkey_monkey: xactly :) |
| 15:02.29 | DaSpirit | Eh, how to do this? |
| 15:02.34 | DaSpirit | !nick enigmadev_DaSpirit |
| 15:02.34 | gsocbot | DaSpirit: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 15:02.42 | enigmadev_DaSpir | Whoops. |
| 15:02.43 | enigmadev_DaSpir | :p |
| 15:02.49 | enigmadev_DaSpir | !queue http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/enigmadev |
| 15:02.54 | null_wang | I think we should drop "Dual-booting" topic now. |
| 15:03.03 | enigmadev_DaSpir | Oh whoops. |
| 15:03.07 | enigmadev_DaSpir | !queue http://enigma-dev.org/docs/Wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code:_2014 |
| 15:03.07 | dom96 | Is queuing open yet? |
| 15:03.17 | enigmadev_DaSpir | Is it? |
| 15:03.32 | dom96 | The email says 15:30 UTC |
| 15:03.39 | enigmadev_DaSpir | What time is it now? |
| 15:03.46 | dom96 | 15:03 |
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| 15:03.48 | Niharika | Try !queue |
| 15:04.02 | carols | kblin: you around? |
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| 15:04.16 | dom96 | !queue |
| 15:04.17 | gsocbot | dom96: "queue" is not open yet. |
| 15:04.24 | dom96 | There is the answer. |
| 15:04.30 | gruenich | NAMES #gsoc |
| 15:04.35 | enigmadev_DaSpir | Okay, then I guess I'm early. |
| 15:04.42 | enigmadev_DaSpir | I'll wait. |
| 15:04.46 | Daiz | yeah about half an hour to go |
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| 15:05.56 | gruenich | SETNAME dune_gruenich |
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| 15:06.03 | kshkr | slaps funkey_monkey around a bit with a large trout |
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| 15:06.15 | t4nk960 | !help |
| 15:06.15 | gsocbot | t4nk960: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 15:06.38 | dom96 | !help queue |
| 15:06.38 | gsocbot | dom96: Error: There is no command "queue". |
| 15:06.48 | Uqbar_ | !nick uqbar_npasserini |
| 15:06.48 | gsocbot | Uqbar_: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 15:07.03 | Uqbar_ | whoami |
| 15:07.08 | Uqbar_ | !whoami |
| 15:07.09 | gsocbot | Uqbar_: I don't recognize you. |
| 15:07.12 | PulkoMandy | the command to change nick is /nick |
| 15:07.16 | t4nk960 | !commands |
| 15:07.25 | Uqbar_ | !commands |
| 15:07.31 | gruenich | !WHOAMI |
| 15:07.32 | gsocbot | gruenich: I don't recognize you. |
| 15:07.42 | gruenich | !SETNAME dune_gruenich |
| 15:08.33 | uqbar_npasserini | Thank you PulkoMandy |
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| 15:09.00 | stqism | Having fun with the bot? |
| 15:09.12 | neugens | !queue http://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/GSoC2014 |
| 15:09.20 | enigmadev_DaSpir | !queue |
| 15:09.20 | gsocbot | enigmadev_DaSpir: "queue" is not open yet. |
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| 15:09.25 | enigmadev_DaSpir | neugens, not open yet. |
| 15:09.34 | dune_gruenich | !queue http://www.dune-project.org/gsoc/2014/ |
| 15:09.43 | blast007 | the queue doesn't open until 15:30 UTC as per the topic |
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| 15:09.49 | neugens | enigmadev_DaSpir, ok, thanks |
| 15:09.55 | PulkoMandy | (this is 20 minutes from now) |
| 15:10.00 | neugens | UTC, right :) |
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| 15:10.35 | dom96 | Why is the nick change necessary? |
| 15:10.59 | carols | dom96: so we know what org you represent |
| 15:11.02 | gevaerts | dom96: so the people who handle everything know who to talk to and who to voice |
| 15:11.06 | kblin | because that will make it easier to +v you when you're up |
| 15:11.10 | netbsd_spz | dom96: it makes it easier to find our what org you represent |
| 15:11.16 | dom96 | ok, fair enough. |
| 15:11.19 | kblin | hey carols, I see you made it :) |
| 15:11.26 | carols | kblin: yawn |
| 15:11.29 | enigmadev_DaSpir | How long does the process take? |
| 15:11.30 | gevaerts | gives carols a cup of coffee |
| 15:11.30 | paultag | early in the morning for y'all |
| 15:11.37 | carols | thank gevaerts |
| 15:11.45 | gevaerts | You're welcome |
| 15:11.59 | stqism | carols: So I take it everything goes +m and one at a time someone gets voiced? |
| 15:12.07 | netbsd_spz | is there a desired format for the queing? |
| 15:12.08 | kblin | yup |
| 15:12.13 | stqism | Awesome |
| 15:12.21 | enigmadev_DaSpir | What if I'm not here when it's my turn? |
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| 15:12.33 | enigmadev_DaSpir | (I kinda have to leave 30 mins after it opens) |
| 15:12.38 | kblin | netbsd_spz: !queue yourorgname url://of/your/ideas/page |
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| 15:13.02 | kblin | enigmadev_DaSpir: is there anybody else from your org around to attend? |
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| 15:13.25 | enigmadev_DaSpir | Not at the moment, they're probably sleeping right now. |
| 15:13.46 | enigmadev_DaSpir | Am I allowed to ask random users? |
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| 15:14.05 | kblin | sure, the question is how useful that'll be for you |
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| 15:14.26 | enigmadev_DaSpir | Probably not useful at all :( |
| 15:14.33 | gevaerts | I suspect there's still the old option of asking by email after today, but I don't know if carols still wants that |
| 15:14.40 | carols | enigmadev_DaSpir: i can't give you feedback if you're not here. |
| 15:14.40 | carols | so we'll move ahead in the queue |
| 15:14.41 | carols | enigmadev_DaSpir: ask random users for what? |
| 15:14.41 | carols | to receive your feedback? |
| 15:14.47 | enigmadev_DaSpir | Yes. |
| 15:14.56 | klebedeff | hello all, do you know how the queueing has to be counted? you have to announce yourself here? |
| 15:15.09 | enigmadev_DaSpir | klebedeff, see the topic. |
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| 15:15.21 | klebedeff | thanks |
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| 15:16.17 | netbsd_spz | ah, there it is. The userlist sort of beats it to death |
| 15:16.20 | carols | klebedeff: check the topic |
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| 15:16.44 | kblin | I guess carols could just give the feedback and you could look at the channel logs later |
| 15:16.44 | kblin | carols: what do you think? |
| 15:16.53 | gevaerts | carols: can people who can't make today's meeting or were too late to be in the first 50 still ask you for feedback by email? |
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| 15:17.01 | klebedeff | carols: thanks |
| 15:17.08 | opensips_razvanc | !queue http://www.opensips.org/Development/GSoC-IdeasList |
| 15:17.21 | kblin | not quite there yet |
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| 15:17.31 | carols | gevaerts: sure, they always can |
| 15:17.43 | carols | gevaerts: in fact, i don't know why more people don't choose that option :-) |
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| 15:18.18 | radare|xvilka | uhm, we have changed already our gsoc page address (differ from the original registration) - which add I should add to the queue? Old or the new one? |
| 15:18.18 | innocenat | perhaps I haven't look tourough enough, but I don't see the email option mentioned anywhere. |
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| 15:18.54 | carols | radare|xvilka: the old one. that's the one you were assessed on |
| 15:19.01 | radare|xvilka | ok, thx |
| 15:19.11 | gevaerts | enigmadev_DaSpir: so if you can't make it, use email :) |
| 15:19.39 | enigmadev_DaSpir | Isn't the queue open for 4 hours? |
| 15:19.51 | carols | enigmadev_DaSpir: the queue is open until it hits 50 people |
| 15:19.58 | enigmadev_DaSpir | Oh. |
| 15:20.10 | kblin | depends on how many people want feedback :) |
| 15:20.33 | gevaerts | enigmadev_DaSpir: treat it like one of those music things where you have to register within half a second of the thing starting, and you'll be first in the queue :) |
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| 15:20.44 | Jeff_S | carols: you're saying your fine with giving feedback via email? That sounds great compared to this noisy channel :) |
| 15:20.55 | carols | Jeff_S: yes, yes it does. |
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| 15:21.30 | Jeff_S | carols: Great, thank you! I'll email instead. |
| 15:21.37 | PulkoMandy | I think having some of the feedback public is nice, and can help people for next year do better applications - but maybe the IRC logs aren't the easiest place to find them |
| 15:21.37 | carols | great |
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| 15:22.03 | Jeff_S | carols: gl :) |
| 15:22.10 | carols | thanks, i'll need it |
| 15:22.10 | kblin | people are free to blog their feedback session, I'm sure |
| 15:22.13 | netbsd_spz | I'll send mail as well |
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| 15:22.51 | kblin | goes to get a drink before the madness starts |
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| 15:22.56 | opensips_razvanc | carols: asking feedback over email seems a better option for us, but I couldn't find anywhere details about that method |
| 15:23.03 | nouiz_ | \NICK Theano_nouiz |
| 15:23.04 | opensips_razvanc | can you provide us the email address? |
| 15:23.07 | carols | opensips_razvanc: sure, i'll give it to you now |
| 15:23.09 | carols | carols@google.com |
| 15:23.16 | enigmadev_DaSpir | lol |
| 15:23.27 | opensips_razvanc | great, thanks! |
| 15:23.35 | carols | yw |
| 15:23.38 | kblin | the same that keeps sending out all those emails about gsoc :) |
| 15:23.49 | cosenal_ownCloud | opensips_razvanc: true, until now i didn't know that was an option |
| 15:23.54 | openmandriva | !queue https://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/GSoC |
| 15:24.07 | carols | just so everyone who's choosing the email option knows: |
| 15:24.11 | carols | i'm a person, with a job |
| 15:24.13 | gevaerts | openmandriva: six more minutes before you can do that :) |
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| 15:24.19 | carols | so i might not respond immediately |
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| 15:24.24 | carols | so please be patient |
| 15:24.28 | carols | i get 400+ emails a day |
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| 15:25.05 | klebedeff | gevaerts: yep, thanks |
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| 15:25.33 | enigmadev_DaSpir | It'll be funny to see everyone queue when the clock hits in 5 minutes. |
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| 15:26.32 | systemsbiologist | @schorche|sh |
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| 15:27.22 | ffmpeg_saste | !queue http://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/FFmpegSummerOfCode2014 |
| 15:27.44 | kblin | close, but no cigar :) |
| 15:28.13 | riffraff | sighs |
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| 15:28.32 | iElectric | prepare your fingers |
| 15:28.39 | ogre3d_spacegaie | kblin: I assume there will be an official "go" to start queueing, right? |
| 15:28.54 | Theano_nouiz | How do we queue? |
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| 15:29.12 | carols | Theano_nouiz: did you read the topic? |
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| 15:29.26 | derdon | !queue https://github.com/sunpy/sunpy/wiki/Gsoc-2014-ideas |
| 15:29.26 | gsocbot | derdon: I queued you at position 1 in the queue |
| 15:29.29 | nimrod_dom | !queue https://github.com/Araq/Nimrod/wiki/GSoC-2014-Ideas |
| 15:29.29 | gsocbot | nimrod_dom: I queued you at position 2 in the queue |
| 15:29.30 | damn_sueastside | !queue https://github.com/sueastside/damn/wiki/Ideas |
| 15:29.30 | nixos_iElectric | !queue https://nixos.org/wiki/GSOC_2014_ideas_list |
| 15:29.30 | gsocbot | damn_sueastside: I queued you at position 3 in the queue |
| 15:29.30 | opensips_razvanc | !queue http://www.opensips.org/Development/GSoC-IdeasList |
| 15:29.31 | wanmen | !queue https://github.com/wanmen/gsoc/blob/master/idea.md |
| 15:29.31 | opennms_sfb | !queue http://www.opennms.org/wiki/Ideas_for_Google_Summer_of_Code_2014 |
| 15:29.31 | gsocbot | nixos_iElectric: I queued you at position 4 in the queue |
| 15:29.32 | radare_xvilka | !queue http://www.radare.org/gsoc |
| 15:29.32 | gsocbot | opensips_razvanc: I queued you at position 5 in the queue |
| 15:29.33 | NESCent | !queue http://informatics.nescent.org/wiki/Phyloinformatics_Summer_of_Code_2014 |
| 15:29.33 | kblin | go :) |
| 15:29.33 | icedtea_neugens | !queue http://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/GSoC2014 |
| 15:29.33 | ogre3d_spacegaie | !queue http://www.ogre3d.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Help+Requested |
| 15:29.33 | gsocbot | wanmen: I queued you at position 6 in the queue |
| 15:29.33 | nebulostore_bole | !queue http://naan.mimuw.edu.pl/trac/wiki/Summer%20of%20Code%20Proposals |
| 15:29.34 | openmandriva | !queue https://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/GSoC |
| 15:29.34 | allevo_horia | !queue http://www.fintp.org/projects/idea-list/ |
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| 15:29.34 | dune_gruenich | !queue http://www.dune-project.org/gsoc/2014/ |
| 15:29.34 | gsocbot | opennms_sfb: I queued you at position 7 in the queue |
| 15:29.35 | HaxeFoundation_S | !queue https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjM-WCpj3S8adGJrX0VIQUdBOXhsQ09BWGwtSlZNOGc&usp=sharing#gid=0 |
| 15:29.35 | avsplus_innocena | !queue http://www.avs-plus.net/gsoc-ideas.php |
| 15:29.36 | gsocbot | radare_xvilka: I queued you at position 8 in the queue |
| 15:29.36 | scrapinghub_ptre | !queue https://github.com/scrapy/scrapy/wiki/GSoC-2014-Ideas |
| 15:29.37 | gsocbot | NESCent: I queued you at position 9 in the queue |
| 15:29.38 | gsocbot | icedtea_neugens: I queued you at position 10 in the queue |
| 15:29.39 | gsocbot | ogre3d_spacegaie: I queued you at position 11 in the queue |
| 15:29.40 | stqism | Oh boy |
| 15:29.40 | ffmpeg_saste | !queue http://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/FFmpegSummerOfCode2014 |
| 15:29.41 | gsocbot | nebulostore_bole: I queued you at position 12 in the queue |
| 15:29.42 | gsocbot | openmandriva: I queued you at position 13 in the queue |
| 15:29.43 | gsocbot | allevo_horia: I queued you at position 14 in the queue |
| 15:29.44 | gsocbot | dune_gruenich: I queued you at position 15 in the queue |
| 15:29.45 | gsocbot | HaxeFoundation_S: I queued you at position 16 in the queue |
| 15:29.45 | cosenal_ownCloud | !queue https://github.com/owncloud/core/wiki/GSoC,-GCI-and-OPW |
| 15:29.46 | gsocbot | avsplus_innocena: I queued you at position 17 in the queue |
| 15:29.47 | gsocbot | scrapinghub_ptre: I queued you at position 18 in the queue |
| 15:29.48 | gsocbot | ffmpeg_saste: I queued you at position 19 in the queue |
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| 15:29.50 | gsocbot | cosenal_ownCloud: I queued you at position 20 in the queue |
| 15:29.50 | Theano_nouiz | thanks |
| 15:29.55 | enigmadev_DaSpir | !queue http://enigma-dev.org/docs/Wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code:_2014 |
| 15:29.55 | gsocbot | enigmadev_DaSpir: I queued you at position 21 in the queue |
| 15:29.57 | owncloud_jancbor | !queue https://github.com/owncloud/core/wiki/GSoC,-GCI-and-OPW |
| 15:29.57 | gsocbot | owncloud_jancbor: I queued you at position 22 in the queue |
| 15:29.58 | dune_gruenich | !queue http://www.dune-project.org/gsoc/2014/ |
| 15:29.58 | systemsbiologist | !queue http://helikarlab.org/GSoC.html |
| 15:29.59 | gsocbot | dune_gruenich: You're already in the queue at position 15. |
| 15:29.59 | uqbar_npasserini | !queue https://sites.google.com/site/proyectouqbar/ideas-gsoc-14 |
| 15:30.00 | gsocbot | systemsbiologist: I queued you at position 23 in the queue |
| 15:30.01 | opensips_razvanc | !queue http://www.opensips.org/Development/GSoC-IdeasList |
| 15:30.01 | gsocbot | uqbar_npasserini: I queued you at position 24 in the queue |
| 15:30.02 | gsocbot | opensips_razvanc: You're already in the queue at position 5. |
| 15:30.09 | joshwambua | get ready... |
| 15:30.16 | ffmpeg_saste | it is not even 15:30 according to my clock... |
| 15:30.25 | shlevy | Wow |
| 15:30.27 | stqism | ffmpeg_saste: Just turned here. |
| 15:30.28 | shlevy | 24 already :D |
| 15:30.30 | Theano_nouiz | !queue https://github.com/Theano/Theano/wiki/Gsoc2014 |
| 15:30.30 | gsocbot | Theano_nouiz: I queued you at position 25 in the queue |
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| 15:30.46 | nimrod_dom | So we start at 16:00 right? |
| 15:30.52 | carols | nimrod_dom: the meeting? yes |
| 15:30.55 | nebulostore_bole | !queue http://naan.mimuw.edu.pl/trac/wiki/Summer%20of%20Code%20Proposals |
| 15:30.55 | gsocbot | nebulostore_bole: You're already in the queue at position 12. |
| 15:30.56 | kblin | ffmpeg_saste: I got the go from the upper echelons :) |
| 15:30.59 | the_baron__ | hi |
| 15:31.02 | nimrod_dom | alright |
| 15:31.04 | enigmadev_DaSpir | Oh, the meeting doesn't start now? |
| 15:31.04 | carols | hi the_baron_ |
| 15:31.09 | the_baron__ | quit |
| 15:31.14 | carols | enigmadev_DaSpir: not for another half hour. as per the email. |
| 15:31.19 | the_baron__ | hi dude |
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| 15:31.21 | cosenal_ownCloud | ops, wrong nick |
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| 15:31.36 | owncloud_cosenal | !queue https://github.com/owncloud/core/wiki/GSoC,-GCI-and-OPW |
| 15:31.36 | gsocbot | owncloud_cosenal: I queued you at position 26 in the queue |
| 15:31.36 | carols | the_baron_: i'm not a dude. but is there something you wanted help with? |
| 15:31.40 | plasma_jvilk | !queue https://github.com/plasma-umass/GSoC-2014/wiki/Ideas-List |
| 15:31.40 | gsocbot | plasma_jvilk: I queued you at position 27 in the queue |
| 15:31.47 | kblin | enigmadev_DaSpir: if you can't make it, please remember to !dequeue |
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| 15:32.00 | carols | kblin: could you put that in the topic too? |
| 15:32.04 | enigmadev_DaSpir | I'll be able to come back in an hour after I leave. |
| 15:32.05 | kblin | sure |
| 15:32.09 | carols | cheers |
| 15:32.14 | owncloud_cosenal | i queued two times, sorry |
| 15:32.19 | owncloud_cosenal | i had the wrong nick |
| 15:32.36 | kblin | owncloud_cosenal: just dequeue with this nick, we'll manage |
| 15:32.38 | systemsbiologist | who do I change my nick? |
| 15:32.41 | owncloud_jancbor | we actually queued thrice ;) |
| 15:32.49 | PulkoMandy | systemsbiologist: /nick newnick |
| 15:32.50 | stqism | systemsbiologist: /nick |
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| 15:33.05 | enigmadev_joshw | !queue http://enigma-dev.org/docs/Wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code:_2014 |
| 15:33.05 | gsocbot | enigmadev_joshw: I queued you at position 28 in the queue |
| 15:33.06 | systemsbiologist | thank you! |
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| 15:33.12 | owncloud_cosenal | !dequeue https://github.com/owncloud/core/wiki/GSoC,-GCI-and-OPW |
| 15:33.12 | gsocbot | owncloud_cosenal: (dequeue Takes no arguments) -- Remove yourself from the queue. |
| 15:33.18 | owncloud_cosenal | !dequeue |
| 15:33.18 | gsocbot | owncloud_cosenal: Removed you from the queue as requested |
| 15:33.23 | the_baron__ | forgive my manners, i need help regarding LCDM,university of illinois project Bayesian Source Classification |
| 15:33.30 | hpcc_flavio | !queue http://hpccsystems.com/gsoc2014 |
| 15:33.30 | gsocbot | hpcc_flavio: I queued you at position 28 in the queue |
| 15:33.36 | *** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> Org feedback meeting today at 1600 UTC. Change nick to orgname_nick, queue up @1530 UTC using !queue http://your/ideas/page | If you can't stay for your turn, please !dequeue and just email carols@google.com for feedback | 2014 mentoring orgs announced, list at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC | Student application starts on 10 March, see timeline: http://goo.gl/Anraxm |
| 15:33.36 | carols | the_baron_: what's the question? |
| 15:33.38 | owncloud_cosenal | kblin: ok, done. then i am queued under cosenal_owncloud |
| 15:33.47 | sunpy_derdon | !dequeue |
| 15:33.47 | gsocbot | sunpy_derdon: You're not in the queue, did your nick change? |
| 15:33.54 | sunpy_derdon | yes :) |
| 15:33.56 | sunpy_derdon | !queue https://github.com/sunpy/sunpy/wiki/Gsoc-2014-ideas |
| 15:33.57 | gsocbot | sunpy_derdon: I queued you at position 29 in the queue |
| 15:33.57 | Namecoin_Jeremy_ | !queue https://github.com/namecoin/wiki/wiki/GSoC-2014-Project-Ideas |
| 15:33.58 | gsocbot | Namecoin_Jeremy_: I queued you at position 30 in the queue |
| 15:34.02 | kblin | owncloud_cosenal: sounds good |
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| 15:34.07 | kblin | folks... |
| 15:34.14 | *** mode/#gsoc [+m] by kblin |
| 15:34.21 | kblin | folks, just a moment |
| 15:34.48 | kblin | this is our first run with the limited queue, and there's no nick change handling yet |
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| 15:35.07 | kblin | so if you queued up and then changed your nick, just don't queue up again |
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| 15:35.29 | kblin | we're smart, we'll manage to map "foo from org bar" to bar_foo |
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| 15:35.52 | kblin | so if you requeued with your new nick, please just !dequeue again |
| 15:35.59 | *** mode/#gsoc [-m] by kblin |
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| 15:36.05 | carols | thanks kblin |
| 15:36.21 | gevaerts | kblin: maybe it's a good idea to do a quick review of the queue a few minutes before the meeting starts |
| 15:36.23 | kblin | adds a feature request for next year |
| 15:36.26 | the_baron__ | how do i contribute to improve my chances in the project? |
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| 15:36.31 | reynaldo | !queue https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/FFmpegSummerOfCode2014 |
| 15:36.31 | gsocbot | reynaldo: I queued you at position 31 in the queue |
| 15:36.37 | reynaldo | gsocbot: thanks |
| 15:36.37 | gsocbot | reynaldo: "thanks" is You're welcome! |
| 15:36.37 | futuresocker | hi all |
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| 15:36.47 | carols | the_baron__: that's a question for the org |
| 15:36.50 | carols | hi futuresocker |
| 15:37.00 | aadi025||tux4kid | hi @carol |
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| 15:37.13 | avsplus_innocena | reynaldo: ffmpeg is already in queue, btw. |
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| 15:37.24 | downey | !anyone | the_baron__ |
| 15:37.24 | gsocbot | the_baron__: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 |
| 15:37.34 | reynaldo | avsplus_innocena: ah, before #31 ? |
| 15:37.39 | avsplus_innocena | #19 |
| 15:37.43 | futuresocker | carols: are you currently in meeting? |
| 15:37.47 | enigmadev_joshw | gsocbot: thanks |
| 15:37.47 | gsocbot | enigmadev_joshw: "thanks" is You're welcome! |
| 15:37.53 | carols | futuresocker: not for another 20 minutes |
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| 15:38.09 | carols | i'm currently drinking tea and yawning a lot. |
| 15:38.14 | aadi025||tux4kid | @carols when rejected mentors meeting actually start ? |
| 15:38.16 | braincode2 | MEMBERS OF MY ORGANIZATIONS: Error retrieving data: please refresh the list or the whole page to try again |
| 15:38.26 | carols | aadi025||tux4kid: at 1600 UTC as per the timeline and the email |
| 15:38.27 | braincode2 | I'm getting this on melange, any hints? |
| 15:38.36 | kblin | gevaerts: yeah, I wonder if I still write that out to a file somewhere |
| 15:38.37 | carols | braincode2: #melange |
| 15:38.37 | gevaerts | braincode2: ask in #melange |
| 15:38.47 | braincode2 | gevaerts: thanks! |
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| 15:38.54 | futuresocker | carols: are you ok for pm about a students question? |
| 15:39.06 | MovingBlocks_Cer | !queue https://github.com/MovingBlocks/Terasology/wiki/GSOC |
| 15:39.06 | gsocbot | MovingBlocks_Cer: I queued you at position 32 in the queue |
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| 15:39.08 | carols | futuresocker: i'd prefer you ask in this channel so others can benefit |
| 15:39.20 | futuresocker | ok |
| 15:39.25 | carols | futuresocker: unless it's about something specific to your situation |
| 15:39.33 | yunatan | Will the feedback at 1600 utc be for accepted projects only or for everyone who applied? |
| 15:39.48 | stqism | yunatan: For people who queued |
| 15:39.49 | carols | yunatan: we don't provide feedback if you're accepted |
| 15:39.54 | reynaldo | carols: does the queue maintains projects whos queuer has left ? |
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| 15:40.03 | blast007 | reynaldo: you can !dequeue to get rid of the duplicate queue entry |
| 15:40.04 | carols | reynaldo: that's a question for kblin |
| 15:40.13 | reynaldo | blast007: sure, Im trying to confirm first |
| 15:40.18 | gevaerts | kblin: you do. http://kblin.org/queue.txt |
| 15:40.23 | reynaldo | kblin: ^ |
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| 15:40.34 | kblin | reynaldo: yup, we're not tracking nicks at the moment |
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| 15:40.37 | radare_xvilka | sorry for asking about that, but when briefing starts, should I ask something, you will just write short prepared answer for all orgs in the selected order? |
| 15:40.39 | futuresocker | My question is about privacy. Is it possible to join GSoC with a nickname? I mean the public-side of our project. |
| 15:40.51 | aadi025||tux4kid | how we know the reason for being not accepted, is the meeting for what going to be start in 20 minutes |
| 15:40.56 | carols | futuresocker: you say "our project" are you a student? |
| 15:41.04 | reynaldo | kblin: got it, will dequeue ffmpeg from #31 then, relying in our previous #19 |
| 15:41.16 | city-of-blooming | !queue https://bloomington.in.gov/documents/viewDocument.php?document_id=8146 |
| 15:41.17 | gsocbot | city-of-blooming: I queued you at position 33 in the queue |
| 15:41.17 | futuresocker | carols: yes, I do. |
| 15:41.17 | reynaldo | !dequeue https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/FFmpegSummerOfCode2014 |
| 15:41.18 | gsocbot | reynaldo: (dequeue Takes no arguments) -- Remove yourself from the queue. |
| 15:41.24 | reynaldo | !dequeue |
| 15:41.24 | gsocbot | reynaldo: Removed you from the queue as requested |
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| 15:41.35 | futuresocker | carols: "our" means "people" ;) |
| 15:41.44 | kblin | gevaerts: looks like I'm smarter than I thought |
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| 15:42.32 | carols | futuresocker: sure, you're asked a public name in melange, you can display whatever you like so long as it's not offensive |
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| 15:43.12 | gevaerts | sunpy_derdon: you should probably !dequeue. You're on position 29 as sunpy_derdon and on position 1 as derdon |
| 15:43.27 | sunpy_derdon | ok |
| 15:43.33 | derdon | !dequeue |
| 15:43.33 | gsocbot | derdon: Removed you from the queue as requested |
| 15:43.34 | futuresocker | carols: of course. OK, and is it a part of the registration or a special request? |
| 15:43.51 | nebulostore_bole | HI, I'm using freenode web client and it seems that I can't send PMs if not registered, will I need that for the meeting with rejected orgs? |
| 15:43.54 | gevaerts | derdon: I'd have dequeued as sunpy_derdon to keep the valuable spot :) |
| 15:44.00 | carols | futuresocker: it's a part of registration |
| 15:44.13 | sunpy_derdon | !dequeue |
| 15:44.13 | gsocbot | sunpy_derdon: Removed you from the queue as requested |
| 15:44.18 | carols | nebulostore_bole: you don't need PMs |
| 15:44.21 | kblin | that was silly |
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| 15:44.23 | gevaerts | sunpy_derdon: don't dequeue them all! |
| 15:44.31 | sunpy_derdon | gevaerts: I know what I'm doing |
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| 15:44.41 | sunpy_derdon | sunpy_Cadair: get in the queue please |
| 15:44.42 | futuresocker | carols: OK thank you very much. And good luck with "queuing" ;-) |
| 15:44.45 | kblin | if you say so :) |
| 15:44.45 | gevaerts | sunpy_derdon: "watch this!"? :) |
| 15:44.50 | carols | futuresocker: yw |
| 15:44.54 | sunpy_Cadair | I need the link |
| 15:45.07 | carols | just so everyone knows, we'll be muting the channel in about 5 minutes |
| 15:45.15 | kblin | sunpy_Cadair: https://github.com/sunpy/sunpy/wiki/Gsoc-2014-ideas ? |
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| 15:45.18 | sunpy_Cadair | !que https://github.com/sunpy/sunpy/wiki/Gsoc-2014-ideas |
| 15:45.19 | carols | so i can get some tea |
| 15:45.25 | carols | and so that we start on time without any noise |
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| 15:45.30 | gevaerts | enigmadev_joshw, enigmadev_DaSpir: you also have two spots |
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| 15:45.37 | sunpy_Cadair | !queue https://github.com/sunpy/sunpy/wiki/Gsoc-2014-ideas |
| 15:45.37 | gsocbot | sunpy_Cadair: I queued you at position 31 in the queue |
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| 15:45.50 | gevaerts | owncloud_cosenal, owncloud_jancbor: same for you. One spot should be enough |
| 15:45.54 | the_baron | clrscr |
| 15:45.54 | stqism | sunpy_Cadair: sunpy_derdon I don't think both of you need to queue. kblin? |
| 15:45.57 | enigmadev_DaSpir | gevaerts, I have to remove a spot? |
| 15:46.03 | aadi025||tux4kid | !queue https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2014-tux4kids/wiki/IdeasList |
| 15:46.03 | gsocbot | aadi025||tux4kid: I queued you at position 32 in the queue |
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| 15:46.25 | sunpy_derdon | stqism: exactly. that's why now only sunpy_Cadair is in the queue |
| 15:46.27 | gevaerts | enigmadev_DaSpir: well, both you and enigmadev_joshw have a spot. One should be enough |
| 15:46.34 | enigmadev_DaSpir | !dequeue |
| 15:46.34 | gsocbot | enigmadev_DaSpir: Removed you from the queue as requested |
| 15:46.39 | enigmadev_DaSpir | Alright. |
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| 15:46.42 | owncloud_cosenal | gevaerts: indeed, one spot is enough, should we dequeue from one? |
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| 15:46.57 | kblin | owncloud_cosenal: that'd be nice towards the other orgs :) |
| 15:47.09 | tux4kids_aadi | !queue https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2014-tux4kids/wiki/IdeasList |
| 15:47.09 | gsocbot | tux4kids_aadi: I queued you at position 32 in the queue |
| 15:47.16 | carols | ...because no one else will be able to queue once it hits 50 |
| 15:47.32 | tux4kids_aadi | Tux4kids at the position on 32 Yeah!] |
| 15:47.35 | kblin | tux4kids_aadi: can you please dequeue one of those? :) |
| 15:47.37 | sunpy_Cadair | I have plenty of time to go the pub before you hit #31 :p |
| 15:47.42 | gevaerts | tux4kids_aadi: you already had a spot... |
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| 15:47.50 | cosenal_ownCloud | !dequeue |
| 15:47.50 | gsocbot | cosenal_ownCloud: Removed you from the queue as requested |
| 15:47.52 | PulkoMandy | in case people missed it, the queue is at http://kblin.org/queue.txt |
| 15:47.55 | gevaerts | kblin: maybe gsocbot can warn about duplicate ideas pages next year |
| 15:48.04 | kblin | gevaerts: oooh, good idea :) |
| 15:48.08 | gevaerts | That's what I'm using to find duplicates now :) |
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| 15:48.44 | tux4kids_aadi | @kblin you can remove me from position 31 because i already queud in 32 with correct attributes |
| 15:49.09 | numenta_rhyoligh | !queue |
| 15:49.10 | gsocbot | numenta_rhyoligh: I queued you at position 32 in the queue |
| 15:49.22 | PulkoMandy | tux4kids_aadi: just use !dequeue, they'll figure it out |
| 15:49.28 | helikarlab | is last year's log available somewhere? |
| 15:49.40 | tux4kids_aadi | !queue https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2014-tux4kids/wiki/IdeasList |
| 15:49.40 | gsocbot | tux4kids_aadi: You're already in the queue at position 31. |
| 15:49.44 | carols | !logs |
| 15:49.44 | gsocbot | carols: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 15:49.50 | gevaerts | helikarlab: yes, it's in the regular logs if you find the date |
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| 15:49.59 | dune_gruenich | !logs |
| 15:49.59 | gsocbot | dune_gruenich: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 15:50.00 | gevaerts | (which I don't remember off hand) |
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| 15:50.20 | *** mode/#gsoc [+m] by carols |
| 15:50.48 | carols | alright, meeting starts in 10 minutes |
| 15:50.49 | carols | enjoy the peace and quiet until then |
| 15:50.49 | carols | please don't PM me if you have questions about the queue |
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| 15:50.58 | carols | PM kblin :-) |
| 15:51.10 | kblin | also, if you still want to queue, /msg the bot |
| 15:51.22 | kblin | I'll be updating the instructions in the topic momentarily |
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| 15:51.37 | kblin | so apologies if I don't instantly reply to your PMs |
| 15:52.13 | *** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> Org feedback meeting today at 1600 UTC. Change nick to orgname_nick, queue up using /msh gsocbot queue http://your/ideas/page | If you can't stay for your turn, please /msg gsocbot dequeue and just email carols@google.com for feedback | 2014 mentoring orgs announced, list at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC | Student application starts on 10 March, see timeline: http://goo.gl/Anraxm |
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| 15:53.14 | *** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> Org feedback meeting today at 1600 UTC. Change nick to orgname_nick, queue up using /msg gsocbot queue http://your/ideas/page | If you can't stay for your turn, please /msg gsocbot dequeue and just email carols@google.com for feedback | 2014 mentoring orgs announced, list at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC | Student application starts on 10 March, see timeline: http://goo.gl/Anraxm |
| 15:53.19 | kblin | whoops |
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| 15:55.07 | kblin | hi folks, we'll begin with the meeting soon. See the topic for instructions on how to queue up |
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| 15:55.19 | carols | serves some coffee and tea |
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| 15:55.26 | carols | enjoy it while you wait. :-) |
| 15:55.34 | kblin | if you can't talk on the channel now, everything is working as intended :) |
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| 15:56.03 | carols | do we want to put something in the topic for people who come to the channel to ask questions and don't know why it's muted? |
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| 15:57.08 | carols | well, if you're here to ask question about gsoc: we're having a meeting. please don't PM me, but you're welcome to wait until the meeting is over or email our discussion list in the meanwhile |
| 15:57.15 | kblin | sounds good |
| 15:57.44 | *** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> Channel is muted for the org feedback meeting. Change nick to orgname_nick, queue up using /msg gsocbot queue http://your/ideas/page | If you can't stay for your turn, please /msg gsocbot dequeue and just email carols@google.com for feedback | 2014 mentoring orgs announced, list at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC | Student application starts on 10 March, see timeline: http://goo.gl/Anraxm |
| 15:57.52 | carols | thanks kblin |
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| 15:59.23 | carols | we'll start in 1 minute. |
| 15:59.30 | kblin | tux4kids_aadi: can you please /msg gsocbot dequeue? you're still in the queue twice |
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| 16:00.13 | carols | okay, i'm going to begin |
| 16:00.36 | carols | =====BEGIN GSOC 2014 ORG REJECTION FEEDBACK MEETING==== |
| 16:00.37 | carols | hi everyone, thanks for coming |
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| 16:00.54 | carols | this year we got 371 (well, technically 372) applications from organizations for the program. |
| 16:00.59 | carols | we accepted 190 organizations in total |
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| 16:01.24 | carols | but unfortunately, we always have less space for orgs than we have applications. |
| 16:01.52 | carols | this year we emphasized, as we have in the past, accepting organizations that have never participated before and/or were small communities |
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| 16:02.12 | carols | we again saw a huge amount of applications from folks in the bioinformatics, life sciences, and biology fields |
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| 16:02.33 | carols | but we also got some great new applications from fields we've never had participate before |
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| 16:03.12 | carols | please make sure your ideas page is the one you used to apply with if you're in the queue, since that's what the assessment of our team was based on |
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| 16:03.44 | carols | and, as the topic says, you're also more than welcome to email me with a request for feedback, but please keep in mind that i'm just 1 person and i might take a while to get back to you |
| 16:03.48 | carols | so with that |
| 16:03.54 | carols | kblin: i'll take queue #1 |
| 16:03.59 | kblin | you can update the URL to your ideas page by using the queue command again if you haven't changed your nick |
| 16:04.06 | carols | what kblin said |
| 16:04.12 | kblin | you won't lose your position in the queue while doing that |
| 16:04.16 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 16:04.16 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is nimrod_dom with notice: https://github.com/Araq/Nimrod/wiki/GSoC-2014-Ideas |
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| 16:04.34 | carols | alright, nimrod_dom needs voice |
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| 16:04.39 | carols | and i'll check my spreadsheet |
| 16:04.41 | nimrod_dom | hello :) |
| 16:04.49 | carols | hello :-) |
| 16:04.54 | carols | just a sec while i read |
| 16:05.28 | carols | alright, so a couple things: |
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| 16:05.37 | carols | 1) some of the ideas on your ideas page needed a bit of work |
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| 16:05.47 | carols | not a huge deal, but we did notice it |
| 16:05.52 | carols | particularly you seemed to lose steam at the end :-) |
| 16:06.05 | carols | love the format and structure of the page, though |
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| 16:06.12 | carols | and the number of ideas was great |
| 16:06.40 | carols | another thing i didn't mention in the preamble, but is applicable here: |
| 16:06.48 | carols | we got a *ton* of apps from programming languages as well |
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| 16:07.00 | carols | and do you had some stiff competition :-( |
| 16:07.13 | carols | let me look at the app and see if there's anything else |
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| 16:07.18 | nimrod_dom | oh :( |
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| 16:07.46 | carols | yeah, we try to choose as wide a variety of projects as we can to benefit the students |
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| 16:08.04 | carols | and sometimes that means rejecting a lot of orgs in a particular topic area if the competition is stif |
| 16:08.06 | carols | stiff |
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| 16:08.28 | carols | only thing i'd say about your app is we might have liked to see someone vouching for you |
| 16:08.34 | carols | but that's a small thing |
| 16:08.42 | carols | that's all i've got |
| 16:08.45 | carols | do you have any questions? |
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| 16:09.21 | carols | ...still there nimrod_dom? |
| 16:09.36 | nimrod_dom | hrm, perhaps you could tell me what made you choose the other applicants in the programming languages field? |
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| 16:10.03 | nimrod_dom | Did it just come down to the quality of the ideas page? |
| 16:10.11 | carols | nimrod_dom: well, as i said, your app/ideas page wasn't A+, and you were competing in an A+ field |
| 16:10.16 | carols | it looks great |
| 16:10.22 | carols | but wasn't quite enough |
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| 16:10.42 | carols | for next year i'd say take a couple ideas off the page and flesh out the ones you have there |
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| 16:10.51 | carols | and find someone to vouch for you :-) |
| 16:11.02 | carols | anything else? |
| 16:11.03 | nimrod_dom | I see. I certainly will do that! :) |
| 16:11.07 | carols | excellent |
| 16:11.11 | nimrod_dom | No, I think that's it. |
| 16:11.13 | carols | i hope you have a nice summer :-) |
| 16:11.13 | nimrod_dom | Thank you. |
| 16:11.15 | carols | thanks for coming |
| 16:11.18 | carols | you're welcome |
| 16:11.21 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 16:11.21 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is damn_sueastside with notice: https://github.com/sueastside/damn/wiki/Ideas |
| 16:11.21 | nimrod_dom | You too! |
| 16:11.28 | carols | thanks kblin |
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| 16:11.44 | carols | alright, just a sec while i read |
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| 16:12.12 | carols | okay, damn_sueastside are you there? |
| 16:12.17 | damn_sueastside | yes i am |
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| 16:12.22 | carols | great |
| 16:12.42 | carols | so first thing, your ideas page ideas have a great structure..but the actual content is a bit light |
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| 16:13.20 | carols | i'd give you the same feedback i gave to the previous folks, which is i'd probably recommend less ideas with more flesh on each one |
| 16:13.47 | carols | next is, i can't say i'm totally wowed with your project's name :-( |
| 16:13.55 | carols | well, acronym. |
| 16:14.29 | carols | the project looks interesting |
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| 16:14.37 | carols | but it's not a good image to project to students :-( |
| 16:14.48 | damn_sueastside | Oh, yeah it seems to be a hit or miss, I have an odd sense of humour :) |
| 16:15.11 | carols | yeah...doesn't really work with university students. we want to be professional |
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| 16:15.21 | carols | but really, more than that, the ideas page didn't knock our socks off |
| 16:15.36 | carols | particularly the fact that you have sections at the end that aren't included at all |
| 16:15.55 | carols | your application otherwise looks fine |
| 16:15.58 | carols | hope that helps |
| 16:16.06 | carols | did you have any questions? |
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| 16:16.55 | damn_sueastside | Oh that's because the project is made of several modules, but there just weren't any tasks suitable for students for those modules, in retrospect we should have left those of the page I guess. |
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| 16:17.04 | carols | yeah, definitely |
| 16:17.13 | carols | and the ideas that are there should be a lot more in-depth |
| 16:17.26 | damn_sueastside | No, your feedback is clear, thank you for your time and effort :) |
| 16:17.31 | carols | excellent |
| 16:17.32 | carols | you're welcome |
| 16:17.37 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 16:17.38 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is nixos_iElectric with notice: https://nixos.org/wiki/GSOC_2014_ideas_list |
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| 16:17.50 | nixos_iElectric | hi! |
| 16:17.51 | carols | thanks kblin |
| 16:17.54 | carols | hi! |
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| 16:18.05 | carols | i'll just be reading for a second, hang on |
| 16:18.38 | carols | alright |
| 16:18.49 | carols | so your ideas page is just so-so |
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| 16:19.08 | carols | firstly, there are some ideas that are well described and clear, but there are some that aren't so much |
| 16:19.31 | carols | second, none of them have the suggested skills or a difficulty level associated with them |
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| 16:20.25 | carols | your app looks pretty good, but i would have liked to see lengthier answers to a few of our questions |
| 16:20.40 | carols | and did i mention we got a lot of new OS's applying this year as well? |
| 16:20.46 | carols | none of those stacked up in your favor :-( |
| 16:20.47 | nixos_iElectric | nop :) |
| 16:20.52 | nixos_iElectric | how much? |
| 16:21.06 | carols | i don't know off the top of my head |
| 16:21.10 | carols | but quite a few |
| 16:21.17 | carols | anyway, do you have any questions on that? |
| 16:21.38 | nixos_iElectric | ok, we'll work on the ideas page and verbosity for the app next year |
| 16:22.16 | nixos_iElectric | carols: do you have any special criterias for OS? |
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| 16:23.12 | nixos_iElectric | nixos changes quite a bit how linux ecosystem works, maybe we should also link a vocabulary to the ideas page |
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| 16:24.04 | carols | excellent |
| 16:24.04 | carols | thank you for coming :-) |
| 16:24.04 | carols | any other questions? |
| 16:24.04 | carols | i'll take that as a no. |
| 16:24.16 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 16:24.17 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is opensips_razvanc with notice: http://www.opensips.org/Development/GSoC-IdeasList |
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| 16:24.36 | opensips_razvanc | hello :) |
| 16:24.40 | carols | okay, next in the queue, please kblin |
| 16:24.40 | carols | no, no special criteria. just a quality ideas page and application |
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| 16:25.33 | carols | well, and in comparison to everyone else who applies in your field :-) |
| 16:25.33 | carols | anything else? |
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| 16:26.16 | carols | thanks kblin |
| 16:26.17 | carols | hello |
| 16:26.18 | opensips_razvanc | so we should have worked better the application answers? |
| 16:26.27 | opensips_razvanc | as well as the ideas page |
| 16:26.38 | carols | i'll just be a sec |
| 16:26.46 | carols | alright, so, firstly, i like your ideas page, but it could have used some more flesh on the ideas |
| 16:26.46 | carols | i don't mind that it's short, but if it's going to be short, it's got to be well-described for each idea |
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| 16:26.50 | carols | your app actually looks fine, but i would have been more swayed if you had someone vouching for you |
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| 16:27.21 | opensips_razvanc | great, thank you for your ideas |
| 16:27.23 | carols | but the ideas page wasn't as convincing as it needed to be |
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| 16:27.33 | carols | you're welcome |
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| 16:27.40 | carols | any other questions? |
| 16:27.49 | opensips_razvanc | no, thanks |
| 16:27.57 | carols | you're welcome |
| 16:27.58 | carols | cheers |
| 16:27.58 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 16:27.58 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is wanmen with notice: https://github.com/wanmen/gsoc/blob/master/idea.md |
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| 16:28.16 | carols | thanks kblin |
| 16:28.21 | wanmen_shao | thanks @kblin |
| 16:28.25 | carols | i'll just be a sec |
| 16:28.35 | wanmen_shao | Thanks carols |
| 16:28.47 | carols | hi wanmen_shao |
| 16:28.54 | wanmen_shao | Hi carols |
| 16:29.05 | carols | so, i have similar feedback for you that i did for the last group |
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| 16:29.20 | carols | i don't mind that your ideas page is short, but if it's going to be short it's got to be really well-fleshed-out |
| 16:29.40 | wanmen_shao | Oh, I guess we'd better add more ideas? |
| 16:29.40 | carols | some of your ideas have skills required and languages, others dont |
| 16:30.08 | wanmen_shao | We'll add more to that |
| 16:30.23 | carols | you don't necessarily need to add more ideas, but you do need to describe each one very well if you choose to go that route |
| 16:30.43 | wanmen_shao | OK, thanks for the suggestion |
| 16:30.46 | carols | it sounds like an interesting project, but we would have also liked to see someone vouch for you |
| 16:30.46 | carols | that would have been a nice point in your favor |
| 16:30.54 | carols | that's all i've got |
| 16:30.54 | carols | any questions? |
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| 16:31.26 | wanmen_shao | Not at the present. |
| 16:31.29 | kblin | wanmen_shao: also, could you /msg gsocbot dequeue, seeing how we're done here? |
| 16:31.35 | carols | great |
| 16:31.36 | kblin | thanks :) |
| 16:31.37 | carols | thanks wanmen_shao |
| 16:31.42 | wanmen_shao | Thanks, kblin |
| 16:31.43 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 16:31.44 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is opennms_sfb with notice: http://www.opennms.org/wiki/Ideas_for_Google_Summer_of_Code_2014 |
| 16:31.45 | carols | have a nice day |
| 16:31.46 | wanmen_shao | Thanks Carols |
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| 16:31.54 | carols | hi opennms_sfb |
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| 16:31.57 | carols | didn't you guys email me? |
| 16:32.02 | opennms_sfb | Hi carols. |
| 16:32.08 | opennms_sfb | I didn't, I'm the org admin. |
| 16:32.11 | carols | hi :-) |
| 16:32.21 | carols | ah, ok |
| 16:32.25 | carols | well, i can cut and paste :-) |
| 16:32.49 | carols | or did you just want to ask tarus? |
| 16:32.50 | opennms_sfb | OK. (= |
| 16:32.59 | carols | it's up to you |
| 16:33.05 | opennms_sfb | I'd rather get it straight from you. |
| 16:33.09 | carols | great |
| 16:33.13 | opennms_sfb | Tarus is sometimes hard to get ahold of, busy guy and all. |
| 16:33.33 | carols | sure, this was a case where you guys have participated many years with us |
| 16:33.40 | carols | and we were making space for new orgs |
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| 16:33.53 | carols | and unfortunately, we had to reject some orgs that we have had before |
| 16:33.57 | carols | yours was such a case |
| 16:34.13 | opennms_sfb | Alright. |
| 16:34.16 | carols | i hope you guys will apply again next year if you choose to |
| 16:34.34 | opennms_sfb | We certainly will. We'll also be better prepared for next year. (; |
| 16:34.39 | carols | excellent |
| 16:34.42 | carols | thank you :-) |
| 16:34.46 | opennms_sfb | I still think it was the dartmen. |
| 16:34.59 | carols | choose whichever story you like :-) |
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| 16:35.04 | opennms_sfb | (= |
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| 16:35.14 | carols | hope you have a nice day |
| 16:35.16 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 16:35.16 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is radare_xvilka with notice: http://www.radare.org/gsoc |
| 16:35.17 | opennms_sfb | Thank you for your hard owrk |
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| 16:35.49 | kblin | hm, can a member of radare please msg me? |
| 16:35.50 | carols | is radare still in line? |
| 16:35.53 | carols | yeah |
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| 16:36.30 | kblin | wanmen_shao: also, while we're waiting, can you please /msg gsocbot dequeue? |
| 16:36.41 | kblin | you're still on the list :) |
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| 16:37.11 | kblin | ok, I guess nobody from radare is still around :/ |
| 16:37.15 | carols | ok |
| 16:37.16 | carols | moving on |
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| 16:37.28 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is NESCent with notice: http://informatics.nescent.org/wiki/Phyloinformatics_Summer_of_Code_2014 |
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| 16:37.39 | NESCent | emerges from the mass of bio/info orgs and waves |
| 16:37.43 | carols | hi NESCent |
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| 16:37.44 | NESCent | hi there |
| 16:37.51 | carols | so i hope you saw my preamble |
| 16:38.02 | NESCent | I did - guessing the reason :) |
| 16:38.02 | carols | we got so many projects in your space this year. |
| 16:38.13 | carols | and we tried to give balance to new orgs and returning orgs |
| 16:38.21 | carols | and we still had a ton of apps in the space we had to reject |
| 16:38.38 | carols | and you guys had participated before, so unfortunately the cards didn't turn in your favor |
| 16:38.42 | NESCent | understands |
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| 16:38.45 | NESCent | I'd be interested to hear if you think we should do some pre-gsoc organising amongst the different orgs ? |
| 16:38.49 | carols | but i do hope you'll apply again next year |
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| 16:38.56 | carols | NESCent: gosh, that would be amazing |
| 16:39.17 | NESCent | it *is* herding cats - but I'll see if I can rouse some coordination :) |
| 16:39.31 | carols | we had to have a special part of our review this year just on bioinformatics/life sciences to narrow them all there were so many |
| 16:39.49 | NESCent | that's good in a way, but confusing for the students :) |
| 16:39.52 | carols | there's so many of you! |
| 16:39.54 | carols | :-) |
| 16:40.12 | carols | but anyway, your application looked great |
| 16:40.18 | carols | it was just a matter of numbers |
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| 16:40.38 | NESCent | understood. glad the computer vision and haskell projects didn't put you off ! |
| 16:40.49 | carols | no, that was fine :-) |
| 16:40.54 | carols | hope you have a nice summer |
| 16:41.00 | NESCent | will do ! |
| 16:41.00 | carols | maybe we'll see you next year |
| 16:41.02 | carols | cheers |
| 16:41.07 | *** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> Channel is muted for the org feedback meeting. Change nick to orgname_nick, queue up using /msg gsocbot queue http://your/ideas/page | see queue at http://kblin.org/queue.txt | If you can't stay for your turn, please /msg gsocbot dequeue and just email carols@google.com for feedback | 2014 mentoring orgs announced, list at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC | Student application starts on 10 March, s |
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| 16:41.14 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is icedtea_neugens with notice: http://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/GSoC2014 |
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| 16:41.21 | carols | hi icedtea_neugens |
| 16:41.24 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v NESCent] by kblin |
| 16:41.24 | carols | you emailed me, yes? |
| 16:41.30 | icedtea_neugens | hi all, hi carols! |
| 16:41.32 | icedtea_neugens | yes |
| 16:41.41 | icedtea_neugens | however I though I would attend too :) |
| 16:41.41 | carols | okay, so i'll archive the email and reply here |
| 16:41.46 | icedtea_neugens | thanks! |
| 16:42.24 | carols | just a sec while i read |
| 16:42.56 | carols | alright, your ideas page was certain good, but not *amazing* |
| 16:43.12 | carols | a few of the ideas could have used some more flesh |
| 16:44.09 | carols | your app looks good |
| 16:44.56 | carols | i think this was just a matter of numbers |
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| 16:45.13 | carols | the gnu folks mentioned putting you under their umbrella |
| 16:45.13 | icedtea_neugens | very unfortunate :( |
| 16:45.14 | carols | i think that's reasonable? |
| 16:45.24 | icedtea_neugens | yes, for some of the projects we may do this |
| 16:45.30 | carols | okay great |
| 16:45.31 | icedtea_neugens | one problem we have is that we are not "one" project, so directing many people to write better proposal is tricky, so I would like to understand what's needs more improvement |
| 16:45.47 | icedtea_neugens | can you maybe give me one example that doesn't look very good? |
| 16:45.58 | carols | sure |
| 16:46.07 | carols | Thermostat CLI Enhancements |
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| 16:46.17 | carols | your description could be about...twice as long if not more |
| 16:46.40 | carols | also, you don't actually have any easy ideas on the page |
| 16:46.49 | carols | so students might be scared off by that |
| 16:47.03 | icedtea_neugens | right |
| 16:47.08 | carols | and then the "collection of ideas" project |
| 16:47.18 | carols | that either should be all the ideas described or should be on there |
| 16:47.24 | carols | does that help? |
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| 16:47.33 | icedtea_neugens | I think I see what you mean, yes |
| 16:47.36 | carols | great |
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| 16:47.39 | icedtea_neugens | I have one last question that may be important for next year if I can |
| 16:47.42 | carols | sure |
| 16:48.05 | icedtea_neugens | regarding the students, we do have contacts with some universities |
| 16:48.12 | carols | okay.. |
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| 16:48.26 | icedtea_neugens | so what usually happens is that we already know more or less who will pick the projects |
| 16:48.37 | icedtea_neugens | and we help them make the most out of the application |
| 16:48.48 | carols | i don't think i understand |
| 16:48.51 | icedtea_neugens | this is not really evident from the ideas, because it's also open to every one of course |
| 16:48.59 | carols | you already have students to work on your project ideas? |
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| 16:49.29 | icedtea_neugens | we have students that want to contribute to specific things and are in touch with us |
| 16:49.32 | carols | if you already have students, why not just have them work on the projects? |
| 16:49.39 | carols | that's what FOSS does best |
| 16:49.41 | carols | :-) |
| 16:49.43 | icedtea_neugens | kind of perpetual community bonding |
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| 16:49.59 | icedtea_neugens | indeed, we do this too :) |
| 16:50.05 | carols | okay, great |
| 16:50.10 | carols | then maybe we should take this offline? |
| 16:50.14 | carols | i don't think i understand |
| 16:50.14 | icedtea_neugens | sure |
| 16:50.16 | carols | great |
| 16:50.21 | icedtea_neugens | well, it was about the ideas list |
| 16:50.28 | carols | okay... |
| 16:50.35 | icedtea_neugens | the way is written, but we can take it offline sure |
| 16:50.40 | carols | great |
| 16:50.41 | carols | thanks |
| 16:50.45 | icedtea_neugens | thanks! |
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| 16:50.46 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is ogre3d_spacegaie with notice: http://www.ogre3d.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=GSoC+Project+Ideas |
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| 16:50.55 | carols | hi ogre3d_spacegaie |
| 16:50.56 | ogre3d_spacegaie | hi |
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| 16:50.58 | carols | just a sec |
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| 16:51.13 | carols | okay, yeah, so this was about your ideas page :-) |
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| 16:51.18 | carols | we weren't wowed |
| 16:51.24 | ogre3d_spacegaie | we guessed as much. |
| 16:51.32 | carols | did you have a chance to read the Faqs and the manual about ideas pages? |
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| 16:52.06 | ogre3d_spacegaie | truth be told, we were a bit late this year and it wasn't as much fleshed out as it was the last years |
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| 16:52.11 | carols | yeah :-( |
| 16:52.14 | carols | that's why |
| 16:52.23 | ogre3d_spacegaie | we will definetly work on that part |
| 16:52.30 | carols | i hope you apply again next year |
| 16:52.36 | carols | and have a great summer |
| 16:52.47 | carols | do you have any other questions? |
| 16:52.47 | ogre3d_spacegaie | we've got one question though |
| 16:53.00 | carols | sure |
| 16:53.05 | ogre3d_spacegaie | there weren't that many rendering engines in this year as far as we could tell. is that by design? |
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| 16:53.19 | ogre3d_spacegaie | did you shift the focus to other areas? |
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| 16:53.34 | carols | yes, it's always by design that we try not to accept too many projects from any particular field |
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| 16:54.06 | ogre3d_spacegaie | but there aren't special fields that you want to trim down, you just want an even distribution, I assume |
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| 16:54.24 | carols | oh, we had to specially trim a bunch of fields |
| 16:54.26 | carols | bioinformatics |
| 16:54.32 | carols | programming languages |
| 16:54.34 | carols | new OS's |
| 16:54.39 | carols | ..others |
| 16:54.47 | carols | so yeah, we do that all the time too |
| 16:54.54 | carols | depends on how many apps we get in that area |
| 16:55.01 | ogre3d_spacegaie | was rendering eninges one of the areas with really many apps? |
| 16:55.02 | carols | and if the quality of the ideas pages is there too |
| 16:55.22 | carols | honestly, i'd have to look at the numbers and i don't have them |
| 16:55.33 | ogre3d_spacegaie | okay, we can then take that offline |
| 16:55.37 | carols | great |
| 16:55.39 | carols | thanks ogre3d_spacegaie |
| 16:55.40 | ogre3d_spacegaie | thanks for your great work |
| 16:55.44 | carols | cheers |
| 16:55.46 | ogre3d_spacegaie | bye |
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| 16:55.47 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is nebulostore_bole with notice: http://naan.mimuw.edu.pl/trac/wiki/Summer%20of%20Code%20Proposals |
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| 16:55.53 | carols | hi nebulostore_bole |
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| 16:56.04 | nebulostore_bole | hello |
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| 16:56.25 | carols | yeah, again, this was your ideas page :-( |
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| 16:56.50 | nebulostore_bole | ok, I see |
| 16:57.08 | nebulostore_bole | too short / too few ideas ... ? |
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| 16:58.53 | carols | it's too short for the small descriptions you've got on there |
| 16:58.53 | carols | if you're only going to have a few ideas they've got to have some serious depth to them |
| 16:58.54 | carols | thank you for structuring them the way you did, that's great |
| 16:58.54 | carols | but you needed a lot more work on each one |
| 16:59.04 | carols | i also would have liked to see someone vouching for you too |
| 16:59.04 | carols | oh sorry |
| 16:59.41 | nebulostore_bole | we had a vouching Googler, but yeah I understand the ideas list was poor |
| 16:59.44 | carols | i take that back |
| 16:59.44 | carols | you had a googler |
| 17:00.19 | nebulostore_bole | apart from that, does it matter that we are small and not very well-known yet? |
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| 17:00.31 | carols | yeah |
| 17:00.31 | carols | this was the ideas page :-( |
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| 17:01.15 | carols | any other questions? |
| 17:01.29 | nebulostore_bole | so the size of the org doesn't actually matter that much? |
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| 17:01.42 | carols | still there, nebulostore_bole? |
| 17:01.42 | carols | yeah |
| 17:01.51 | nebulostore_bole | also, which of your org categories did we fall into? |
| 17:01.55 | nebulostore_bole | was it crowded? |
| 17:01.56 | carols | sorry :-( |
| 17:01.56 | carols | please try again next year if you'd like |
| 17:02.06 | carols | and i hope you have a nice rest of your friday |
| 17:02.07 | carols | nope |
| 17:02.12 | carols | we like that :-) |
| 17:02.13 | carols | assuming it's a topic we think people will be interested in |
| 17:02.17 | carols | we like new blood |
| 17:02.17 | carols | but you have to prove you can handle the students |
| 17:02.22 | carols | and part of the way you do that is through a really well-thought-out ideas page |
| 17:02.23 | carols | nope |
| 17:02.24 | carols | this wasn't about your category. your ideas page was the problem |
| 17:02.44 | nebulostore_bole | ok, thanks a lot! We'll try again next time :) |
| 17:02.53 | carols | any other questions? |
| 17:02.54 | carols | cheers |
| 17:02.57 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 17:02.57 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is openmandriva with notice: https://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/GSoC |
| 17:03.04 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v openmandriva] by kblin |
| 17:03.09 | openmandriva | hi! |
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| 17:03.19 | carols | hi openmandriva |
| 17:03.19 | carols | just a sec please while i read |
| 17:03.48 | carols | so just so you know, i get an SSL certificate problem on your ideas page |
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| 17:04.02 | openmandriva | cacert thing, yes, thanks |
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| 17:04.27 | carols | and then next is that the ideas page is not as lengthy or fleshed out as i would like |
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| 17:04.52 | openmandriva | so the ideas are good, but the descriptions are not long/detailed enough? |
| 17:05.03 | carols | indeed |
| 17:05.09 | openmandriva | was it the only issue? |
| 17:05.28 | carols | also, you responded to the question about having folks vouch for you, but you didn't actually have a googler or a org that's participated before in the program. |
| 17:05.49 | carols | and yeah, your ideas page wasn't up to par :-( |
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| 17:06.10 | carols | that was the issue |
| 17:06.15 | carols | any other questions? |
| 17:06.18 | openmandriva | OK, so having a googler vouching and having more detailed ideas page would have made it through? |
| 17:06.23 | carols | maybe |
| 17:06.24 | carols | maybe not |
| 17:06.30 | carols | i can't make any guarantees :-) |
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| 17:06.34 | openmandriva | I see |
| 17:06.38 | carols | we never know what the mix is going to be like |
| 17:06.43 | openmandriva | the size of the organization did not matter as I understand? |
| 17:06.47 | carols | but it certainly would have been much more in your favor |
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| 17:06.55 | carols | nope, size of the org doesn't matter |
| 17:07.00 | openmandriva | ok, thank you |
| 17:07.05 | carols | you're welcome |
| 17:07.12 | carols | hope you have a nice summer/winter |
| 17:07.15 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 17:07.15 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is allevo_horia with notice: http://www.fintp.org/projects/idea-list/ |
| 17:07.17 | openmandriva | you too:) |
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| 17:07.23 | carols | hi allevo_horia |
| 17:07.26 | allevo_horia | hi |
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| 17:08.23 | carols | okay, so firstly, your ideas page was not A+ quality :-( |
| 17:08.26 | carols | it's certainly good |
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| 17:08.30 | carols | but not outstanding |
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| 17:08.56 | allevo_horia | yeah, we rushed it :( |
| 17:09.03 | carols | yeah |
| 17:09.09 | carols | i would have liked to see a difficulty level |
| 17:09.19 | carols | and then a lengthier description of each idea |
| 17:09.30 | carols | so that was the problem |
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| 17:09.46 | allevo_horia | I understand |
| 17:09.51 | carols | any other questions? |
| 17:09.57 | allevo_horia | just one |
| 17:10.01 | carols | sure |
| 17:10.16 | allevo_horia | the project is kindda "niche" |
| 17:10.21 | allevo_horia | for the financial sector |
| 17:10.39 | carols | that's fine, all other things being equal |
| 17:10.41 | allevo_horia | dos that make it noty so interesting for studentrs ? |
| 17:10.54 | carols | no, i'm sure there's some students who are very interested |
| 17:11.01 | carols | but you have to have a great ideas page |
| 17:11.26 | allevo_horia | ok, thank you |
| 17:11.30 | carols | you're welcome |
| 17:11.32 | carols | have a nice day |
| 17:11.39 | allevo_horia | you too |
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| 17:11.43 | carols | i'm taking a 2 minute break |
| 17:11.47 | carols | ill be right back |
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| 17:12.33 | kblin | so, while carols is having a break, some queue maintenance :) |
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| 17:13.14 | kblin | there's two people in the queue that haven't set an ideas page URL |
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| 17:13.51 | kblin | please do so by using "/msg gsocbot queue URL HERE" with the same nick you used to queue up |
| 17:14.00 | carols | i'm back |
| 17:14.03 | carols | thanks kblin |
| 17:14.06 | kblin | you will keep your spot in the queue, but make life easier for carol :) |
| 17:14.09 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 17:14.09 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is dune_gruenich with notice: http://www.dune-project.org/gsoc/2014/ |
| 17:14.15 | carols | hi dune_gruenich |
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| 17:14.22 | dune_gruenich | Hi Carol |
| 17:14.34 | carols | aw, this feedback is going to be disappointing :-( |
| 17:14.44 | dune_gruenich | Uh, why? |
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| 17:15.01 | carols | you guys were in until the very last round :-( and we just had to make some cuts for orgs we liked but couldn't keep |
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| 17:15.22 | carols | i know that's disappointing :-( |
| 17:15.24 | dune_gruenich | That's life. |
| 17:15.29 | carols | i'm sorry |
| 17:15.33 | dune_gruenich | Can you still give hint about improving? |
| 17:15.43 | carols | i don't have any feedback for improving, i think you guys did everything right |
| 17:15.55 | carols | we just had 190 slots and 371 apps |
| 17:15.56 | dune_gruenich | Ok, thanks for your time any. |
| 17:16.01 | carols | you're welcome |
| 17:16.03 | carols | thanks for waiting |
| 17:16.06 | dune_gruenich | We'll apply next year. |
| 17:16.13 | carols | please do |
| 17:16.16 | dune_gruenich | and greatings to kblin, I am only 30 km away :-) |
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| 17:16.23 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is HaxeFoundation_S with notice: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjM-WCpj3S8adGJrX0VIQUdBOXhsQ09BWGwtSlZNOGc&usp=sharing#gid=0 |
| 17:16.30 | carols | hi HaxeFoundation_S |
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| 17:16.42 | Haxe_Simon | Hey |
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| 17:16.58 | carols | hi Haxe_Simon |
| 17:17.24 | carols | so your ideas page is good, but i really hesitate on the spreadsheet format because it doesn't introduce you to students |
| 17:17.43 | carols | they don't know anything about your org or what you do |
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| 17:18.00 | carols | i completely understand that they could get that from your profile |
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| 17:18.05 | carols | but it makes it difficult |
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| 17:18.22 | Haxe_Simon | Huh, okay. |
| 17:18.31 | carols | if i were you i'd try another format with an intro for students and a format you want their proposals in with contact info for your org |
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| 17:18.50 | carols | also |
| 17:18.58 | carols | did i mention we got a lot of programming languages this year? |
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| 17:19.13 | Haxe_Simon | I don't really understand that idea page argument to be honest, the pages could still be improved anyway. |
| 17:19.20 | Haxe_Simon | But oh well, I figured it was due to us being a programming language. |
| 17:19.23 | carols | sure |
| 17:19.27 | Haxe_Simon | Thank you for your time! |
| 17:19.36 | carols | you're welcome |
| 17:19.38 | carols | thanks for waiting :-) |
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| 17:19.42 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is avsplus_innocena with notice: http://www.avs-plus.net/gsoc-ideas.php |
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| 17:19.50 | carols | hi avsplus_innocena |
| 17:19.50 | avsplus_innocena | Hello! |
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| 17:20.42 | carols | so firstly, a couple of these ideas could have used a bit more work |
| 17:20.53 | carols | a difficulty level also would have been nice |
| 17:20.56 | avsplus_innocena | would you mind telling which one? |
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| 17:21.20 | carols | well, none of them have a difficulty level |
| 17:21.36 | avsplus_innocena | sorry, I mean which one could have used a bit more work. |
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| 17:22.01 | carols | sure, plugin manager for example |
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| 17:22.22 | avsplus_innocena | ah I see. |
| 17:22.22 | carols | i i would think that you'd need an expected outcome for all of them |
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| 17:22.26 | carols | but that one in particular |
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| 17:22.49 | carols | i also would recommend you have a googler or other project vouch for you in the future |
| 17:23.20 | carols | that's all i've got |
| 17:23.37 | carols | do you have any other questions? |
| 17:23.46 | avsplus_innocena | is it also related that we have very short project history? |
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| 17:23.57 | carols | um, a little, but not much |
| 17:24.18 | avsplus_innocena | I also notice that there are very few video-related org this year. |
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| 17:24.34 | carols | there's a lot of breadth in all our orgs, not depth :-) |
| 17:24.45 | carols | that's purposeful |
| 17:24.54 | avsplus_innocena | I see. |
| 17:24.57 | carols | does that help? |
| 17:25.06 | avsplus_innocena | I think. |
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| 17:25.12 | carols | great |
| 17:25.16 | avsplus_innocena | Anything you would recommend for our next year apoplication? |
| 17:25.17 | carols | i hope you'll try again next year |
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| 17:25.46 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 17:25.46 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is scrapinghub_ptre with notice: https://github.com/scrapy/scrapy/wiki/GSoC-2014-Ideas |
| 17:25.47 | carols | a difficulty level and expected outcomes on your ideas along with a googler or other project vouching you would go a long way |
| 17:25.51 | kblin | oh, sorry |
| 17:26.05 | carols | does avsplus_innocena have any other questions? |
| 17:26.13 | avsplus_innocena | None. Thank you very much. |
| 17:26.19 | carols | yw |
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| 17:26.25 | carols | ok, hi scrapinghub_ptre |
| 17:26.28 | scrapinghub_ptre | hi |
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| 17:26.48 | scrapinghub_ptre | kblin can you add voice to the other scrapinghub_? |
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| 17:27.21 | scrapinghub_ptre | thx kblin |
| 17:27.25 | carols | hi everyone :-) |
| 17:27.33 | scrapinghub_pabl | hi :) |
| 17:27.50 | carols | so i loved your ideas page |
| 17:27.52 | carols | it was great |
| 17:27.57 | carols | please don't change anything |
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| 17:28.05 | scrapinghub_ptre | thx |
| 17:28.06 | scrapinghub_pabl | :) |
| 17:28.25 | scrapinghub_ptre | was it about many python projects? |
| 17:28.33 | carols | yeah, this is going to be another disappointing one |
| 17:28.40 | carols | yes, we had to cut a ton of python projects |
| 17:28.44 | carols | so that didn't help |
| 17:28.49 | carols | and you guys were in until our final round too |
| 17:28.53 | scrapinghub_ptre | I see |
| 17:28.58 | scrapinghub_ptre | :-/ |
| 17:29.05 | carols | and we had to do some balancing that wasn't in your favor :-( |
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| 17:29.32 | scrapinghub_ptre | good to know. we'll definitely apply nextg year |
| 17:29.39 | carols | i'd really encourage you to apply next year |
| 17:29.54 | carols | this was a hard decision for us, sorry |
| 17:29.59 | scrapinghub_ptre | and this year, PSF will have us under their umbrella |
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| 17:30.02 | scrapinghub_pabl | anything else to point out besides the scarcity of python slots?. we were wondering if the scrapinghub-scrapy naming could have played against us |
| 17:30.02 | scrapinghub_ptre | so that's cool |
| 17:30.14 | carols | that's great |
| 17:30.14 | carols | i'm glad to hear that |
| 17:30.40 | carols | oh, no, the naming was fine. you explained that in your app, right? |
| 17:30.40 | carols | i seem to remember tat |
| 17:30.40 | carols | *that |
| 17:30.58 | scrapinghub_pabl | indeed we did |
| 17:31.10 | carols | yeah, that was fine. |
| 17:31.10 | carols | no worried there |
| 17:31.10 | carols | worries |
| 17:31.15 | scrapinghub_ptre | yep, a few satelite projects all open source |
| 17:31.20 | carols | boy, i need more tea |
| 17:31.27 | scrapinghub_pabl | :) |
| 17:31.32 | scrapinghub_ptre | :) thanks carols |
| 17:33.38 | kblin | ok, I assume carol went for more tea :) |
| 17:34.00 | kblin | thanks for updating the queue entries |
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| 17:36.30 | kblin | ah, there we go :) |
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| 17:36.44 | carols_ | thanks kblin |
| 17:36.48 | carols_ | sorry about that everyone |
| 17:36.57 | carols_ | moving along :-) |
| 17:37.01 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 17:37.01 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is ffmpeg_saste with notice: http://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/FFmpegSummerOfCode2014 |
| 17:37.07 | carols_ | hi ffmpeg_saste |
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| 17:37.34 | carols_ | ffmpeg_saste: i think you guys are just going to need to email me. |
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| 17:37.45 | carols_ | i'm sure you already know what this is about. |
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| 17:38.31 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | thanks kblin |
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| 17:38.34 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | hi everyone |
| 17:38.43 | carols_ | ffmpeg_reynaldo2: did you want to talk about it offline? |
| 17:39.00 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | not rly, we would rather doit publicly |
| 17:39.11 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | and then go private if there are any follow ups |
| 17:39.12 | ffmpeg_michaelni | is also not a big fan of secrets |
| 17:39.43 | carols_ | okay, then it was just a matter of numbers :-( |
| 17:39.46 | carols_ | couldn't make it work |
| 17:40.08 | carols_ | sorry it's not more satisfying than that |
| 17:40.20 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | Im guessing there were some reasons behind us been relegated to a position that got us cut off ? |
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| 17:40.39 | carols_ | not really |
| 17:40.43 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | anything we would be able to control and/or improve on ? |
| 17:40.46 | carols_ | ther'es 371 apps and 190 slots... |
| 17:41.05 | carols_ | no, i can't think of anything for you to improve on |
| 17:41.11 | carols_ | sorry guys |
| 17:41.40 | carols_ | any other questions? |
| 17:41.45 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | we value the program but rly, cant you give us some more feedback ? you mention we knew of the reason before hand |
| 17:41.48 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | what was it ? |
| 17:41.54 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | the ffmpeg/libav turmoil? |
| 17:42.25 | carols_ | it was that we just didn't have enough space |
| 17:42.31 | carols_ | i know that's not very satisfying |
| 17:42.33 | carols_ | sorry :-( |
| 17:42.33 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | thats not something we can't control honestly, projects get forked & teams do split all the time |
| 17:43.09 | carols_ | we don't care about that. |
| 17:43.09 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | carols_: its not about satisfaction rly, we were rejected, we are not seeking that |
| 17:43.09 | carols_ | okay... |
| 17:43.09 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | we just want to figure out whether theres anything we could have done better |
| 17:43.12 | carols_ | no, there isn't, i'm sorry |
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| 17:43.18 | carols_ | i know that's hard to hear |
| 17:43.27 | carols_ | but there isn't any other feedback i can offer |
| 17:43.58 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | well, thanks I guess, good luck with the program |
| 17:44.02 | carols_ | thanks very much |
| 17:44.06 | ffmpeg_reynaldo2 | o/ |
| 17:44.06 | ffmpeg_michaelni | thanks carols_ |
| 17:44.07 | carols_ | hope you have a nice summer |
| 17:44.10 | carols_ | cheers |
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| 17:44.29 | carols_ | hi owncloud_jancbor |
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| 17:44.38 | owncloud_jancbor | hi carols_ |
| 17:44.44 | carols_ | just a sec while i read |
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| 17:44.49 | owncloud_cosenal | hi carols_ |
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| 17:45.23 | carols_ | so your ideas page was good, but could have used some improvement |
| 17:45.38 | carols_ | a difficulty level on the ideas, for example |
| 17:45.50 | carols_ | well, let me rephrase |
| 17:46.02 | owncloud_jancbor | yeah, we didn’t have that on all of them |
| 17:46.05 | carols_ | a consistency amongst the ideas in all having a difficulty level |
| 17:46.09 | carols_ | right |
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| 17:46.33 | carols_ | and also a consistency in how lengthy their descriptions are |
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| 17:46.42 | owncloud_cosenal | carols_: we got to know about that from opensuse's manu. it wasn't very explicit |
| 17:46.59 | carols_ | sure, we also include info on that on the FAQs and the manual |
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| 17:47.03 | carols_ | if you want to take a second look |
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| 17:47.24 | carols_ | and besides that |
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| 17:47.43 | carols_ | there's also the fact that we got a ton of cloud service applications this year as well |
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| 17:47.55 | carols_ | so there was that not working in your favor too |
| 17:48.01 | owncloud_cosenal | carols_: you suggest this as idea page: http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2011/Ideas |
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| 17:48.10 | carols_ | indeed i do. |
| 17:48.15 | carols_ | or at least for the formatting and length |
| 17:48.24 | owncloud_cosenal | carols_: and it's not bold, that confused me :P |
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| 17:48.29 | carols_ | but there's lots of variations on that them that work |
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| 17:48.35 | carols_ | *theme |
| 17:48.45 | carols_ | any other questions? |
| 17:49.09 | owncloud_jancbor | so the other cloud service applications had better project pages, or what did it come down to? |
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| 17:49.24 | carols_ | it came down to your ideas page wasn't quite excellent |
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| 17:49.28 | carols_ | and you had stiff competition |
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| 17:49.40 | carols_ | does that help? |
| 17:49.43 | owncloud_jancbor | yes |
| 17:49.46 | owncloud_cosenal | carols_: does the application form matter at all? |
| 17:49.47 | owncloud_jancbor | and: Did the existence of the ownCloud Inc. play into the rejection? |
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| 17:49.58 | carols_ | nope, not in this case |
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| 17:50.15 | owncloud_cosenal | carols_: ok, so focus on the ideas page next year? |
| 17:50.21 | carols_ | yes please |
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| 17:50.47 | carols_ | and i hope you have a nice rest of your day |
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| 17:50.47 | owncloud_cosenal | carols_: ok, thank you ;-) |
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| 17:50.48 | owncloud_jancbor | yep, you too. Thank you for the feedback! :) |
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| 17:50.48 | carols_ | thanks :-) |
| 17:50.48 | carols_ | cheers |
| 17:50.50 | owncloud_cosenal | carols_: we are under opensuse umbrella this year, btw |
| 17:50.54 | carols_ | great! |
| 17:50.57 | carols_ | that works out well then |
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| 17:51.05 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is systemsbiologist with notice: http://helikarlab.org/GSoC.html |
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| 17:51.26 | helikarlab | hello |
| 17:51.33 | carols_ | hi helikarlab |
| 17:51.36 | carols_ | just a sec |
| 17:51.39 | scorche|sh | carols_: kblin: if necessary, I am here now =) |
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| 17:52.13 | kblin | scorche|sh: good to know, but I'm still good for another hour or so |
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| 17:52.17 | scorche|sh | ok |
| 17:52.25 | scorche|sh | dont push it if not necessary =) |
| 17:52.34 | carols_ | thanks scorche|sh |
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| 17:52.54 | carols_ | helikarlab: you have a great ideas page, we liked the visuals :-) |
| 17:53.00 | helikarlab | thank you :) |
| 17:53.15 | carols_ | helikarlab: we just got sooo many apps in this field |
| 17:53.37 | helikarlab | any improvements that you would suggest for next year? |
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| 17:53.53 | carols_ | helikarlab: knock off some of the other biological computation folks? |
| 17:53.55 | carols_ | just kidding |
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| 17:54.03 | carols_ | honestly, it was just a matter of numbers |
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| 17:54.10 | helikarlab | we took to heart your suggestions, but looks like bad luck this year |
| 17:54.20 | carols_ | i do hope you'll try again next year |
| 17:54.25 | helikarlab | your suggestions from last year I meant |
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| 17:54.27 | helikarlab | we will |
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| 17:54.40 | helikarlab | thanks again for your feedback to us and others |
| 17:54.40 | carols_ | great |
| 17:54.47 | carols_ | cheers, i hope you have a nice weekend |
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| 17:54.51 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is uqbar_npasserini with notice: https://sites.google.com/site/proyectouqbar/ideas-gsoc-14 |
| 17:54.54 | helikarlab | thank you, you too |
| 17:54.57 | carols_ | hi uqbar_npasserini |
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| 17:55.11 | uqbar_npasserini | hi |
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| 17:55.41 | carols_ | so we liked your ideas page |
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| 17:56.18 | carols_ | i might have liked a bit more in the "expected outcomes," but that was only a slight change i'd make |
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| 17:56.26 | uqbar_npasserini | ok |
| 17:56.33 | carols_ | we would have liked a googler or other project vouching for you |
| 17:56.41 | uqbar_npasserini | yes, I know |
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| 17:57.11 | carols_ | other than that, it was another tough decision :-( |
| 17:57.36 | carols_ | do you have any questions? |
| 17:57.36 | uqbar_npasserini | ok, thanks! |
| 17:57.40 | carols_ | you're welcome |
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| 17:57.51 | uqbar_npasserini | thank you for the feedback |
| 17:57.55 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 17:57.56 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is Theano_nouiz with notice: https://github.com/Theano/Theano/wiki/Gsoc2014 |
| 17:57.57 | uqbar_npasserini | and have a nice weekend |
| 17:58.01 | carols_ | cheers |
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| 17:58.28 | kblin | I'm missing somebody from the Theano project, please msg me to get voice |
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| 17:58.45 | carols_ | i'll wait |
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| 17:59.07 | carols_ | going once? |
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| 17:59.35 | carols_ | going twice? |
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| 17:59.53 | carols_ | anyone kblin? |
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| 17:59.56 | kblin | nope |
| 17:59.58 | carols_ | okay |
| 18:00.00 | carols_ | moving on |
| 18:00.01 | kblin | looks like... |
| 18:00.04 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 18:00.04 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is plasma_jvilk with notice: https://github.com/plasma-umass/GSoC-2014/wiki/Ideas-List |
| 18:00.08 | carols_ | hi plasma_jvilk |
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| 18:00.18 | plasma_jvilk | hey |
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| 18:00.26 | carols_ | hey |
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| 18:00.39 | plasma_jvilk | I'm curious to hear your feedback. :) |
| 18:00.48 | carols_ | so overall we really like your ideas page |
| 18:00.59 | plasma_jvilk | thanks! |
| 18:01.02 | carols_ | but we felt the ideas were a bit of a grabbag... |
| 18:01.08 | carols_ | kind of all over the place |
| 18:01.10 | plasma_jvilk | Well, we are a diverse research lab |
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| 18:01.16 | plasma_jvilk | But we are *one* lab |
| 18:01.26 | plasma_jvilk | We thought it would be unfair to apply as multiple entities |
| 18:01.27 | carols_ | it might have helped to get some structure about topic areas or something? |
| 18:01.37 | plasma_jvilk | Hmm, so an overview of the lab prior to the projects? |
| 18:01.44 | carols_ | yeah that might have helped |
| 18:01.51 | plasma_jvilk | All of these are research projects advised by one faculty advisor, btw |
| 18:02.15 | plasma_jvilk | But yes, perhaps we could have more introductory material about PLASMA |
| 18:02.18 | carols_ | yeah, also, you guys have participated in the past and we just had to accept a lot of new orgs again this year |
| 18:02.21 | carols_ | so there's that too |
| 18:02.40 | plasma_jvilk | Understood. So it was that we participated previously, and that the ideas lacked a particular theme. |
| 18:02.45 | carols_ | yeah |
| 18:02.48 | plasma_jvilk | Any comments on the ideas list itself? |
| 18:03.00 | plasma_jvilk | I'd like to know if we were missing any info or if the info wasn't in-depth enough. |
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| 18:03.19 | carols_ | no, i thought that was all fine |
| 18:03.20 | plasma_jvilk | I realize we're missing difficulty level, but we didn't have that last year either. Whoops. |
| 18:03.27 | carols_ | yeah |
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| 18:03.35 | carols_ | it was a lot of little things |
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| 18:03.40 | carols_ | that added up to a big thing :-( |
| 18:03.49 | plasma_jvilk | OK. We'll try to put forward a more consistent image next year. |
| 18:03.53 | carols_ | excellent |
| 18:03.57 | carols_ | thank you |
| 18:03.57 | plasma_jvilk | Thanks for the feedback. |
| 18:04.01 | carols_ | cheers |
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| 18:04.03 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 18:04.03 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is enigmadev_joshw with notice: http://enigma-dev.org/docs/Wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code:_2014 |
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| 18:04.12 | carols_ | hi enigmadev_joshw |
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| 18:04.43 | carols_ | are you there, enigmadev_joshw? |
| 18:04.50 | carols_ | just want to check before i launch into this |
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| 18:05.20 | carols_ | kblin: were there other folks from the enigma team? |
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| 18:05.27 | kblin | DaSpirit-Mobile, I think |
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| 18:05.47 | carols_ | sips some tea |
| 18:05.51 | kblin | JoshDreamland: there you go |
| 18:05.56 | JoshDreamland | Thank you! |
| 18:05.59 | carols_ | hi JoshDreamland |
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| 18:06.13 | carols_ | you're representing enigma, yes? |
| 18:06.13 | JoshDreamland | Hello! |
| 18:06.17 | carols_ | great |
| 18:06.18 | JoshDreamland | Yes. |
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| 18:06.28 | carols_ | so i like the structure of your ideas page overall |
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| 18:06.35 | carols_ | but i would have liked a few more things |
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| 18:06.45 | carols_ | a difficulty level for one |
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| 18:06.55 | carols_ | more lengthy descriptions |
| 18:07.01 | carols_ | and expected outcomes |
| 18:07.02 | JoshDreamland | Sure. |
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| 18:07.24 | carols_ | also, it would have helped your case a lot if you had a googler or another org vouching for you |
| 18:07.34 | carols_ | but your ideas page left a little to be desired |
| 18:07.47 | JoshDreamland | As of now, I have a Google job offer |
| 18:07.55 | JoshDreamland | So that won't be a problem for next year |
| 18:07.55 | carols_ | oh wow |
| 18:07.58 | carols_ | congrats :-) |
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| 18:08.02 | JoshDreamland | Thank you! |
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| 18:08.10 | carols_ | but that's what i've got |
| 18:08.13 | carols_ | any questions? |
| 18:08.18 | JoshDreamland | Nope, that sounds fair. |
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| 18:08.20 | carols_ | great |
| 18:08.23 | carols_ | thanks for waiting |
| 18:08.27 | JoshDreamland | But the ideas were overall complete enough? |
| 18:08.34 | carols_ | yes, absolutely |
| 18:08.42 | JoshDreamland | Oh, good. That was my major concern. |
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| 18:08.48 | carols_ | :-) |
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| 18:08.59 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is Namecoin_Jeremy_ with notice: https://github.com/namecoin/wiki/wiki/GSoC-2014-Project-Ideas |
| 18:09.06 | carols_ | Namecoin_Jeremy_: hi |
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| 18:09.10 | Namecoin_Jeremy_ | Hi |
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| 18:09.32 | Namecoin_Jeremy_ | This is our first time applying, so we're curious to hear what we can improve |
| 18:09.40 | carols_ | loved the structure of your ideas page overall |
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| 18:09.51 | carols_ | i would have liked to see your expected outcomes, but overall, very good |
| 18:10.30 | Namecoin_Jeremy_ | cool |
| 18:10.40 | carols_ | yeah, other than that, this was just a matter of numbers again :-( |
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| 18:10.50 | carols_ | sorry that's not a more satisfying answer |
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| 18:10.59 | Namecoin_Jeremy_ | I understand |
| 18:11.11 | Namecoin_Jeremy_ | that's actually good news for us, that means we're doing something right :-) |
| 18:11.11 | carols_ | i do hope you'll try again next year |
| 18:11.16 | carols_ | for sure :-) |
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| 18:11.19 | Namecoin_Jeremy_ | Yes, we'll try again next year |
| 18:11.24 | carols_ | excellent |
| 18:11.29 | carols_ | thanks for waiting |
| 18:11.32 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 18:11.32 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is MovingBlocks_Cer with notice: https://github.com/MovingBlocks/Terasology/wiki/GSOC |
| 18:11.38 | carols_ | hi MovingBlocks_Cer |
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| 18:12.05 | MovingBlocks_Cer | hi :-) |
| 18:12.12 | MovingBlocks_Pri | o/ |
| 18:12.14 | carols_ | oh yeah, you guys asked for feedback on your ideas page beforehand, right? |
| 18:12.14 | kblin | sorry, off by one :) |
| 18:12.16 | MovingBlocks_Cer | sorry for making kblin work overtime on voices |
| 18:12.22 | MovingBlocks_Cer | yep! |
| 18:12.27 | carols_ | it's fine, he's paid in socks :-) |
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| 18:12.35 | MovingBlocks_Cer | hehe |
| 18:12.40 | carols_ | yeah, i really liked your ideas page... |
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| 18:13.00 | MovingBlocks_Cer | i figured we mainly were competing against numbers :-) |
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| 18:13.12 | carols_ | it would have helped your case to have another org or someone else vouching for you |
| 18:13.17 | carols_ | but yes, mainly numbers |
| 18:13.34 | carols_ | please keep your ideas page just the way it is |
| 18:13.37 | carols_ | it's great |
| 18:13.37 | MovingBlocks_Cer | yep - hints on how to actually court vouchers is one of my two questions :-) |
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| 18:13.45 | MovingBlocks_Mar | Is there phase of the project pre-alpha/alpha/beta a factor in the choice? |
| 18:13.49 | MovingBlocks_Cer | actually got more ideas for making it prettier, and a year to get it done :D |
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| 18:13.59 | carols_ | well, it's mainly about finding orgs that are working in your space that you can collaborate with |
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| 18:14.11 | carols_ | and then having them attest to how cool you are later |
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| 18:14.40 | carols_ | but really, more than anything, this was a numbers thing |
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| 18:14.43 | MovingBlocks_Cer | maybe LWJGL or one of our libs would be interested in a use case, if they aren't already awash in users :-) |
| 18:14.49 | carols_ | sure |
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| 18:14.51 | carols_ | there you go :-) |
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| 18:15.12 | MovingBlocks_mst | is there a list accredited orgs for vouching available somewhere? |
| 18:15.12 | carols_ | any other questions? |
| 18:15.27 | carols_ | sure, it's the list of orgs that have participated in gsoc before :-) |
| 18:15.34 | MovingBlocks_mst | ah ok :-) |
| 18:15.35 | MovingBlocks_Cer | another quick question: was the game field very busy, or was it more about the language? i'm also curious about MovingBlocks_Mar's question on project maturity mattering |
| 18:15.38 | MovingBlocks_Mar | carols_: Is the phase of the project (pre-alpha/alpha/beta/released) a factor in the choice? |
| 18:16.23 | carols_ | well, when we're making tough decisions we will see if you are in a niche space or don't have a lot of users, but that didn't factor in for you guys this year |
| 18:16.31 | carols_ | so i wouldn't worry too much about that |
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| 18:16.39 | carols_ | having said that |
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| 18:16.48 | carols_ | if you apply again next year you'll be more mature |
| 18:16.54 | carols_ | so you won't have to worry about it anyway |
| 18:16.55 | carols_ | :-) |
| 18:17.10 | MovingBlocks_Cer | yep, got good expectations for next year, we'll be back - thank you very much :-) |
| 18:17.14 | carols_ | cheers :-) |
| 18:17.20 | MovingBlocks_Mar | thanks! |
| 18:17.20 | carols_ | i'm taking another 2 minute break |
| 18:17.30 | carols_ | kblin can handle the queue for a sec |
| 18:17.46 | kblin | I'll need the two minutes to get all the devoices done anyway ;) |
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| 18:19.18 | city-of-blooming | Hello there, thanks for the review |
| 18:19.33 | kblin | we'll wait for carol, she's the lady with the plan :) |
| 18:19.38 | city-of-blooming | Rock on |
| 18:19.50 | carols_ | okay, i'm back |
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| 18:19.53 | carols_ | hi city-of-blooming |
| 18:19.55 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 18:19.55 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is city-of-blooming with notice: https://bloomington.in.gov/documents/viewDocument.php?document_id=8146 |
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| 18:20.22 | carols_ | this is going to be disappointing for you too. :-( |
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| 18:20.38 | city-of-blooming | Just too many projects and not enough slots? |
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| 18:20.50 | carols_ | you guys have participated before and we got so many civic engagement projects this year |
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| 18:21.02 | carols_ | and we wanted to make some space for some newcomers |
| 18:21.14 | city-of-blooming | Understandable |
| 18:21.15 | carols_ | i'm sorry that's not very satisfying though :-( |
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| 18:21.47 | city-of-blooming | We're starting to get other cities using our tools, we'll keep working at getting more collaboration |
| 18:21.54 | carols_ | that's awesome |
| 18:22.04 | carols_ | do you have any questions i can answer? |
| 18:22.18 | city-of-blooming | Any tips on our ideas page improvements? |
| 18:22.39 | carols_ | nope, it looks great |
| 18:22.49 | carols_ | you did a great job with it |
| 18:23.00 | carols_ | just wanted some new blood in the mix this year |
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| 18:23.30 | city-of-blooming | We think it's important for more cities to use open source. Thank you for your support over the last couple years |
| 18:23.40 | city-of-blooming | Thanks very much for your time and feedback. |
| 18:23.41 | carols_ | happy to, thanks for participating |
| 18:23.43 | carols_ | i hope you have a nice summer |
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| 18:23.49 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 18:23.49 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is sunpy_Cadair with notice: https://github.com/sunpy/sunpy/wiki/Gsoc-2014-ideas |
| 18:23.55 | carols_ | hi sunpy_Cadair |
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| 18:23.58 | sunpy_Cadair | Hello! |
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| 18:24.10 | carols_ | do you know how many python projects we got this year? |
| 18:24.15 | sunpy_Cadair | no |
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| 18:24.23 | sunpy_Cadair | many many lots? |
| 18:24.28 | sunpy_renstar | 1005? |
| 18:24.32 | carols_ | enough that in addition to bioinformatics we also had to have a separate review of all the python projects :-) |
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| 18:24.53 | sunpy_Cadair | our source of power turns out to be our weakness |
| 18:24.53 | carols_ | i'm hoping you guys would be willing to be under PSF this year? |
| 18:24.58 | sunpy_Cadair | yes, we will |
| 18:25.03 | carols_ | that's great |
| 18:25.03 | sunpy_Cadair | they were very good last year |
| 18:25.07 | carols_ | good. |
| 18:25.11 | sunpy_renstar | we had success with PSF last year |
| 18:25.18 | carols_ | we just got so many python projects. |
| 18:25.41 | sunpy_renstar | is there anything specific we can do to stand out more among the python projects? |
| 18:25.41 | sunpy_Cadair | out of interest how many astrophysics/ physics type projects did you get? |
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| 18:26.08 | carols_ | well, we got a lot, i'd have to look at the numbers to be sure |
| 18:26.18 | sunpy_Cadair | cool |
| 18:26.22 | carols_ | one thing i would say is expected outcomes on your ideas pages might have helped a little |
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| 18:26.30 | carols_ | but really, this was just a numbers thing |
| 18:27.01 | sunpy_Cadair | carols_, cool, anything else about the ideas page? |
| 18:27.05 | carols_ | i do hope you have success again this year with PSF |
| 18:27.08 | carols_ | no, not that i can find |
| 18:27.14 | sunpy_Cadair | good to know |
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| 18:27.15 | carols_ | thank you for waiting |
| 18:27.21 | sunpy_Cadair | Thank you for still being here!! |
| 18:27.25 | sunpy_renstar | thank you for the feed back |
| 18:27.26 | carols_ | cheers :-) |
| 18:27.30 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 18:27.30 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is aadi025||tux4kid with notice: https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2014-tux4kids/wiki/IdeasList |
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| 18:27.44 | carols_ | hi aadi025||tux4kid |
| 18:27.48 | carols_ | you emailed me, right? |
| 18:27.51 | aadi025||tux4kid | hi fossygirl |
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| 18:28.04 | aadi025||tux4kid | yupe |
| 18:28.25 | carols_ | okay, well, i'll archive the email and respond here |
| 18:28.45 | carols_ | i would have liked a difficulty level and expected outcome on your ideas page |
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| 18:29.05 | carols_ | also, some of the descriptions are pretty short |
| 18:29.12 | carols_ | they could have used more info |
| 18:29.50 | aadi025||tux4kid | but last time we had same type of application format |
| 18:29.59 | carols_ | and also, you guys have participated many times before and we needed to make space for new orgs this year |
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| 18:30.11 | carols_ | well, unfortunately other orgs raised the bar on you :-( |
| 18:30.45 | carols_ | i'd encourage you to try again next year |
| 18:30.58 | carols_ | any other questions? |
| 18:31.01 | aadi025||tux4kid | we had drem to be part of 10th year programme to be celebrate gsoc |
| 18:31.19 | carols_ | sorry :-( |
| 18:31.23 | aadi025||tux4kid | nope |
| 18:31.31 | carols_ | thanks for waiting |
| 18:31.37 | carols_ | hope you have a nice weekend |
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| 18:31.38 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 18:31.39 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is numenta_rhyoligh with notice: https://github.com/numenta/nupic/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code-2014:-Ideas-List-for-NuPIC |
| 18:31.43 | carols_ | hi numenta_rhyoligh |
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| 18:31.58 | numenta_rhyoligh | Hello! |
| 18:32.06 | carols_ | yeah, so this was about your ideas page :-( |
| 18:32.22 | numenta_rhyoligh | This was our first submission, so I know we have things to learn :) |
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| 18:32.28 | carols_ | fair enough |
| 18:32.42 | carols_ | you've read the FAQs and the manual on ideas pages, i assume? |
| 18:32.58 | numenta_rhyoligh | Yes, can you point out the things we missed? |
| 18:33.25 | carols_ | sure, i would have liked a difficulty level on all the ideas. |
| 18:33.29 | numenta_rhyoligh | I was using an other org's idea page as an example. |
| 18:33.35 | carols_ | some of your descriptions needed to be longer |
| 18:33.44 | numenta_rhyoligh | Yes, I've already taken that feedback for next year based on other feedback you've given |
| 18:34.00 | numenta_rhyoligh | longer descriptions.. okay.. do you think we had too many ideas? |
| 18:34.00 | carols_ | i'm ok with the fact that some of the ideas don't have mentors yet, but you should state that on the page |
| 18:34.08 | numenta_rhyoligh | ok |
| 18:34.13 | carols_ | no, the number of ideas was fine |
| 18:34.17 | carols_ | that was good |
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| 18:34.40 | numenta_rhyoligh | Most of these ideas came straight from or FOSS community and some didn't sign up for mentorship |
| 18:34.50 | numenta_rhyoligh | we'll try to do better to assign them next year |
| 18:35.08 | numenta_rhyoligh | So difficutly level, longer descriptions, anything else? |
| 18:35.18 | carols_ | also, it always helps to have a descripion of your org on the page for students |
| 18:35.22 | carols_ | but that's a small thing |
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| 18:35.24 | numenta_rhyoligh | Ah, ok |
| 18:35.26 | carols_ | yeah, that covers it |
| 18:35.40 | numenta_rhyoligh | We didn't have a voucher, but we have some ex-googlers on staff |
| 18:35.42 | carols_ | any other questions? |
| 18:35.50 | numenta_rhyoligh | and our founder gave a google tech talk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y43qwS8fl4 did that help at all? |
| 18:35.59 | carols_ | it does help |
| 18:36.01 | numenta_rhyoligh | the talk is abou tthis project |
| 18:36.06 | carols_ | but in this case your ideas page wasn't strong enough |
| 18:36.09 | numenta_rhyoligh | gotcha |
| 18:36.17 | carols_ | hope that helps |
| 18:36.20 | numenta_rhyoligh | ok, thanks for your feedback, we'll use it for next year |
| 18:36.27 | carols_ | cheers |
| 18:36.30 | carols_ | thanks for waiting |
| 18:36.32 | numenta_rhyoligh | np |
| 18:36.45 | carols_ | hope you have a nice weekend |
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| 18:37.35 | carols_ | we're working on the queue |
| 18:37.40 | carols_ | we'll be back in a sec :-0 |
| 18:37.42 | carols_ | :-) |
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| 18:37.53 | carols_ | hi schily |
| 18:37.57 | kblin | http://schillix.berlios.de/pmwiki.php/Main/Ideas |
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| 18:37.58 | schily | hi |
| 18:38.15 | kblin | so exceptional skip here, we'll be back to our regular programming in a but |
| 18:38.18 | kblin | bit, too |
| 18:38.27 | schily | I guess that my ideas page was not specific enough |
| 18:38.27 | carols_ | yeah, unfortunately we weren't very impressed with your ideas page |
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| 18:38.41 | carols_ | did you get a chance to read the FAQs and the manual on ideas pages? |
| 18:38.56 | schily | I did not find the FAQs, so this may be the problem |
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| 18:39.06 | carols_ | sure ill get you the link |
| 18:39.17 | carols_ | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#3._What_is_an_Ideas_list |
| 18:39.22 | schily | Thank you! |
| 18:39.27 | carols_ | you're welcome |
| 18:39.29 | carols_ | hope that helps |
| 18:39.41 | carols_ | feel free to email me if you have questions about that |
| 18:39.42 | kblin | you're also alway welcome to ask questions in this channel :) |
| 18:39.50 | schily | if it was only the ideas and not the way I was promising to deal with people.... |
| 18:40.05 | schily | Where can I get you email address? |
| 18:40.08 | carols_ | we look at your ideas page first before anything else |
| 18:40.10 | carols_ | sure |
| 18:40.12 | carols_ | carols@google.com |
| 18:40.29 | carols_ | any other questions? |
| 18:40.32 | schily | OK, thank you - I will contact you via mail - I have to leave |
| 18:40.35 | carols_ | great |
| 18:40.36 | carols_ | cheers |
| 18:40.40 | schily | thank you for tekinmg me first |
| 18:40.46 | carols_ | you're welcome |
| 18:40.48 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 18:40.49 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is FenixEdu_nurv with notice: http://fenixedu.org/dev/google-summer-of-code |
| 18:40.53 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v FenixEdu_nurv] by kblin |
| 18:40.54 | carols_ | hi FenixEdu_nurv |
| 18:40.55 | FenixEdu_nurv | hello :) |
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| 18:41.18 | FenixEdu_nurv | We were first timers and the idea page wasn't up to par |
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| 18:41.26 | carols_ | so your ideas page is very pretty :-) |
| 18:41.26 | FenixEdu_nurv | with what I'm seeing in other projects |
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| 18:41.33 | FenixEdu_nurv | thank you! :) |
| 18:41.34 | carols_ | but doesn't quite have the formatting we're looking for |
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| 18:41.49 | FenixEdu_nurv | yeah I figured that was the case |
| 18:41.50 | carols_ | you got the links to the FAQs and the manual? |
| 18:41.52 | carols_ | yeah |
| 18:42.04 | FenixEdu_nurv | it wasn't me made the idea page |
| 18:42.15 | carols_ | ok, well, that was the reason you were rejected |
| 18:42.16 | FenixEdu_nurv | he probably didn't had them, but now I have the link |
| 18:42.23 | carols_ | but i'd encourage you to apply again next year |
| 18:42.37 | carols_ | and thank you for waiting |
| 18:42.37 | FenixEdu_nurv | where there many education projects? |
| 18:42.40 | carols_ | yes |
| 18:42.41 | carols_ | lots |
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| 18:42.45 | carols_ | seems to be a new field :-) |
| 18:42.49 | carols_ | everyone's interested in |
| 18:42.55 | FenixEdu_nurv | oh ok awsome thanks |
| 18:42.57 | carols_ | but this was really about your ideas page |
| 18:43.07 | FenixEdu_nurv | ok ok |
| 18:43.10 | carols_ | i hope you have a nice weekend :-) |
| 18:43.14 | FenixEdu_nurv | you too thanks |
| 18:43.17 | carols_ | cheers |
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| 18:43.19 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 18:43.20 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is duraspace_tim with notice: https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/GSOC/Google+Summer+of+Code+Ideas |
| 18:43.33 | kblin | hm, nobody from duraspace? |
| 18:43.34 | carols_ | did tim leave? |
| 18:43.41 | carols_ | i got an email |
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| 18:43.45 | carols_ | so he may have had to leave |
| 18:43.47 | kblin | ok |
| 18:43.52 | carols_ | one more sec? |
| 18:43.55 | carols_ | just to see/ |
| 18:43.56 | carols_ | ? |
| 18:43.56 | kblin | freenode is acting up again as well |
| 18:44.01 | carols_ | anyone from duraspace? |
| 18:44.09 | kblin | so, if anybodu from duraspace is in, please /msg me |
| 18:44.23 | carols_ | going once... |
| 18:44.38 | carols_ | okay, let's move on kblin |
| 18:44.40 | carols_ | they emailed |
| 18:44.53 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 18:44.53 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is trtetwdeb7herg with notice: https://github.com/jcryptool/core/wiki/Project-Ideas |
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| 18:45.17 | carols_ | did we lose them as well? |
| 18:45.30 | kblin | trtetwdeb7herg: hey there :) |
| 18:45.34 | carols_ | ah |
| 18:45.34 | carols_ | hi |
| 18:45.39 | carols_ | or no? |
| 18:45.44 | carols_ | needs more tea |
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| 18:45.57 | carols_ | i'll give it another minute |
| 18:46.16 | kblin | ok, looks like jcryptool has one minute to become active while carol is getting tea :) |
| 18:46.22 | carols_ | yes |
| 18:46.39 | kblin | /msg me if you're here from jcryptool |
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| 18:47.16 | carols_ | i think we can move on kblin |
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| 18:47.22 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is openFrameworks_b with notice: https://github.com/openframeworks/openFrameworks/wiki/GSoC-2014-Ideas |
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| 18:47.26 | carols_ | hi openFrameworks_b |
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| 18:47.31 | openFrameworks_b | hi :) |
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| 18:47.47 | openFrameworks_b | what can we do differently next time? |
| 18:47.59 | carols_ | just give me a sec to read |
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| 18:48.36 | carols_ | i would have liked more flesh on that last idea on your page :-) |
| 18:48.40 | carols_ | but that's a small thing |
| 18:48.43 | carols_ | i liked the other ideas |
| 18:49.14 | carols_ | the formatting was great and we like the projects |
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| 18:49.34 | carols_ | yeah, this was mostly a numbers thing :-( |
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| 18:49.59 | openFrameworks_b | ok, we understand. hopefully the numbers will work out more in our favor next year :) |
| 18:50.01 | carols_ | you know the processing folks, do you think there's any way they could serve as an umbrella for you this year, you think? |
| 18:50.06 | carols_ | just a thought |
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| 18:50.14 | openFrameworks_b | yes, there is already some collab happening |
| 18:50.23 | carols_ | i'd be happy to give them a couple slots extra if you had a project you wanted to do under them |
| 18:50.24 | carols_ | great |
| 18:50.29 | openFrameworks_b | especially wrt to the ITP school at NYU, via dan shiffman |
| 18:50.38 | carols_ | just have them remind me in slot allocation that they'll umbrella you :-) |
| 18:50.45 | carols_ | and i'll make sure they get some extra spots |
| 18:50.54 | carols_ | any other questions? |
| 18:50.55 | openFrameworks_b | if that's a possibility, we'd be glad to take you up on it! we'll get in contact w processing & you |
| 18:51.01 | carols_ | great |
| 18:51.02 | carols_ | please do |
| 18:51.07 | openFrameworks_b | very helpful, thanks! |
| 18:51.10 | carols_ | yw |
| 18:51.13 | carols_ | have a nice day |
| 18:51.17 | kblin | !nextinline |
| 18:51.17 | gsocbot | kblin: Next in line is p2psp_jalvaro with notice: http://p2psp.org/en/news/41-gsoc-2014-ideas-page |
| 18:51.20 | carols_ | i'll be right back, i need to get some tea |
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| 18:51.25 | carols_ | just a sec p2psp_jalvaro |
| 18:51.27 | p2psp_jalvaro | hi there :) |
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| 18:51.31 | p2psp_jalvaro | no prob |
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| 18:52.23 | carols_ | hi :-) |
| 18:52.26 | carols_ | i'm back |
| 18:52.29 | carols_ | okay, to reading |
| 18:52.31 | p2psp_jalvaro | hey |
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| 18:52.49 | carols_ | okay, overall, i loved your ideas page |
| 18:53.10 | carols_ | i might have a small comment that i'd like more lengthy descriptions, but it's a small concern |
| 18:53.16 | p2psp_jalvaro | ok |
| 18:53.32 | p2psp_jalvaro | what do you think about ideas' difficulty? |
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| 18:54.10 | carols_ | i would have very much liked some breadth in difficulty so that you'd be interesting to a wider variety of students |
| 18:54.29 | carols_ | almost all our students are concerned (unnecessarily) that they don't have the coding skills to participate in gsoc |
| 18:54.49 | p2psp_jalvaro | so you mean more variety of difficulty levels? |
| 18:54.52 | carols_ | so having easy, intermediate, and difficult tasks makes it easier for students to feel they can get involved |
| 18:54.53 | carols_ | yes |
| 18:54.56 | p2psp_jalvaro | right |
| 18:55.04 | carols_ | but you did great on the structure |
| 18:55.22 | p2psp_jalvaro | I have a couple of other questions |
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| 18:55.51 | p2psp_jalvaro | we were concerned about having little movement at our message list, was that really a problem? |
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| 18:57.02 | p2psp_jalvaro | hi? |
| 18:57.41 | kblin | we can still see you, but maybe carol fell off the net again |
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| 18:57.58 | p2psp_jalvaro | now :) |
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| 18:58.07 | carols | sorry about that |
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| 18:58.21 | p2psp_jalvaro | no problem |
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| 18:59.40 | carols__ | sorry everyone |
| 18:59.40 | carols__ | where were we? |
| 18:59.43 | p2psp_jalvaro | hi |
| 18:59.47 | carols__ | hi p2psp_jalvaro |
| 18:59.49 | carols__ | sorry about that |
| 18:59.52 | kblin | 19:55 <+p2psp_jalvaro> we were concerned about having little movement at our message list, was that really a problem? |
| 18:59.54 | carols__ | please ask your question again |
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| 18:59.59 | p2psp_jalvaro | thx kblin |
| 19:00.02 | carols__ | no, that wasn't a problem at all |
| 19:00.12 | p2psp_jalvaro | fine |
| 19:00.15 | p2psp_jalvaro | another question (sorry) |
| 19:00.21 | carols__ | sure |
| 19:00.44 | p2psp_jalvaro | i see only a couple of projects related to p2p or video transmission, did you reject a lot of them or is it simply that there weren't any? |
| 19:01.06 | carols__ | there weren't that many in that space |
| 19:01.18 | p2psp_jalvaro | not so popular topic any more :) |
| 19:01.20 | carols__ | but we have to balance between orgs in a particular field as well as total number of orgs |
| 19:01.39 | p2psp_jalvaro | so my last question: how can we improve for next year? |
| 19:01.54 | carols__ | i'd recommend fleshing out the descriptions on your ideas page |
| 19:02.02 | carols__ | and adding ideas that are easy and difficult as well |
| 19:02.09 | carols__ | those two would help you the most |
| 19:02.20 | p2psp_jalvaro | ok, we'll try again next year |
| 19:02.27 | carols__ | i'd also see if there's an org or a googler who'd be willing to vouch for you, that would help some as well |
| 19:02.29 | carols__ | great |
| 19:02.32 | carols__ | thanks for waiting |
| 19:02.33 | p2psp_jalvaro | ok |
| 19:02.37 | p2psp_jalvaro | thanks carol and kblin |
| 19:02.38 | carols__ | i hope you have a nice weekend |
| 19:02.49 | kblin | ok, with that I hand off the job of assisting carols to scorche|sh |
| 19:02.57 | carols__ | scorche|sh: you there? |
| 19:02.58 | scorche|sh | waves |
| 19:03.01 | carols__ | great |
| 19:03.07 | carols__ | we'll take next in line :-) |
| 19:03.11 | carols__ | thanks kblin for the help |
| 19:03.27 | kblin | so please /msg scorche|sh for anything you'd have /msged me before :) |
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| 19:03.39 | scorche|sh | !nextinline |
| 19:03.39 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: Next in line is ankur-sankarshan with notice: https://github.com/ankur-india/ankur-india/wiki/Project%20Ideas |
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| 19:03.43 | carols__ | hi ankur-sankarshan |
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| 19:04.11 | ankur-sankarshan | thanks scorche|sh hi carols__ :) |
| 19:04.17 | carols__ | so a couple things |
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| 19:04.37 | carols__ | firstly, you guys have participated before, and we wanted to make some space for new orgs this year |
| 19:04.51 | carols__ | but also, your ideas page wasn't quite as great as we expected this year either |
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| 19:05.25 | carols__ | i would have liked a lot more structure on the ideas |
| 19:05.31 | carols__ | does that make sense? |
| 19:05.43 | ankur-sankarshan | Indeed. We guessed that the ideas page wasn't up to the mark. But this session has been awesome in terms of taking notes on how to make solid improvements for our application next year - breadth. depth and level of difficulty. |
| 19:05.51 | carols__ | yeah, indeed |
| 19:05.57 | carols__ | i hope you'll try again next year |
| 19:06.02 | ankur-sankarshan | Thanks carols__ and we have no further questions. |
| 19:06.05 | carols__ | great |
| 19:06.08 | carols__ | thanks for waiting |
| 19:06.11 | carols__ | have a nice day |
| 19:06.16 | ankur-sankarshan | You too! :) |
| 19:06.21 | carols__ | cheers |
| 19:06.21 | scorche|sh | !nextinline |
| 19:06.21 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: Next in line is ubitrack with notice: http://campar.in.tum.de/UbiTrack/WishList |
| 19:06.26 | carols__ | hi ubitrack |
| 19:06.31 | scorche|sh | same org? |
| 19:06.40 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v ubitrack] by scorche|sh |
| 19:07.00 | scorche|sh | we just did notice, correct? |
| 19:07.01 | carols__ | is ubitrack there? |
| 19:07.06 | carols__ | yes |
| 19:07.07 | ubitrack | did the hi arriv e? |
| 19:07.11 | carols__ | hi |
| 19:07.14 | carols__ | so |
| 19:07.14 | ubitrack | hi |
| 19:07.17 | carols__ | a couple things |
| 19:07.47 | carols__ | firstly, on your ideas page, i like the structure, but i'd like to have seen a difficulty level as well as expected outcomes for the ideas |
| 19:08.02 | carols__ | and the brief explanations could have been a little less brief :-) |
| 19:08.26 | carols__ | those were the main points on your ideas page |
| 19:08.32 | ubitrack | so we should put the difficulty in the text? |
| 19:08.58 | carols__ | yes, as another bullet point just like you've done with the mentors and knowledge prerequistes sections |
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| 19:09.14 | carols__ | and then expected outcomes as well |
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| 19:09.37 | carols__ | any questions on that? |
| 19:09.43 | ubitrack | in form of what a clear output /final goal? |
| 19:09.49 | carols__ | well |
| 19:10.01 | carols__ | don't be _too_ prescriptive to the students |
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| 19:10.14 | carols__ | but we want a general idea of what you're expecting the project to become at the end of the term |
| 19:10.26 | ubitrack | ok |
| 19:10.31 | carols__ | and a general showing that you understand that the project is going to take 3 months for a student and why |
| 19:10.44 | carols__ | and then the students can take it from there |
| 19:10.51 | carols__ | you're very close with this ideas page :-) |
| 19:10.56 | carols__ | it just needs a bit more help |
| 19:11.25 | ubitrack | so, but the different levels wouldhave been fine? |
| 19:11.33 | carols__ | we also want to see a wide variety of difficulty levels in your ideas so lots of different students will be interested |
| 19:11.37 | carols__ | yes |
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| 19:11.54 | carols__ | any other questions? |
| 19:11.56 | ubitrack | was it too easy or too difficult? |
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| 19:12.13 | carols__ | neither, we didn't think there was enough of a range |
| 19:12.39 | carols__ | but i hope you apply again next year |
| 19:12.44 | carols__ | if you'd like to |
| 19:12.53 | ubitrack | ok, and the number? was it too many projects? |
| 19:13.07 | carols__ | in this case? we wanted a higher quality ideas page. |
| 19:13.33 | carols__ | any other questions? |
| 19:13.45 | ubitrack | ok, thanks for the feedback, i think we can imporve on this next year. |
| 19:13.49 | carols__ | you're welcome |
| 19:13.52 | carols__ | thanks for waiting |
| 19:13.58 | scorche|sh | !nextinline |
| 19:13.58 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: Next in line is dweintrop with notice: https://github.com/NetLogo/NetLogo/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code---Ideas-List |
| 19:13.59 | carols__ | i hope you have a nice summer |
| 19:14.03 | carols__ | hi dweintrop |
| 19:14.06 | ubitrack | you, too |
| 19:14.06 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v dweintrop] by scorche|sh |
| 19:14.06 | dweintrop | hellow |
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| 19:14.25 | dweintrop | thanks for taking the time to give all this feedback |
| 19:14.34 | carols__ | sure, did you apply under the name "netlogo"? |
| 19:14.38 | dweintrop | yes |
| 19:14.45 | carols__ | cool, just a sec |
| 19:15.21 | dweintrop | oh - it might have been: Center for Connected Learning and Computer-Based Modeling |
| 19:15.25 | carols__ | ah |
| 19:15.25 | dweintrop | if your'e not finding NetLogo |
| 19:15.30 | carols__ | that might be what it is |
| 19:15.31 | carols__ | thanks |
| 19:15.39 | carols__ | yes |
| 19:15.42 | carols__ | that's what it was |
| 19:16.25 | carols__ | so your ideas page could have used a bit more flesh in a few places |
| 19:16.37 | carols__ | some of the ideas are a little too brief |
| 19:16.50 | dweintrop | I was guessing that would be the case from your prior feedback |
| 19:16.54 | carols__ | i also would have liked to see another org or a googler vouching for you |
| 19:17.19 | dweintrop | makes sense |
| 19:17.20 | carols__ | but yeah, the ideas could have used some fleshing out |
| 19:17.43 | dweintrop | beyond those two things - any other advice for our submission for next year> |
| 19:17.51 | carols__ | no, that would be a big part of it |
| 19:18.08 | carols__ | we saw a lot of projects in your field, but i would recommend the improved ideas page for next year |
| 19:18.17 | dweintrop | will do |
| 19:18.19 | carols__ | any other questions? |
| 19:18.21 | dweintrop | thanks for the feedback |
| 19:18.23 | dweintrop | nope |
| 19:18.28 | carols__ | thanks for waiting, by the way |
| 19:18.35 | carols__ | hope you have a nice weekend |
| 19:18.35 | scorche|sh | !nextinline |
| 19:18.35 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: Next in line is pidgin_twasilczy with notice: https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/SoCAndBountyIdeas |
| 19:18.39 | dweintrop | you too |
| 19:18.43 | carols__ | hi pidgin_twasilcz3 |
| 19:18.51 | carols__ | do you know what i'm going to say next? |
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| 19:19.02 | pidgin_twasilcz3 | no idea |
| 19:19.08 | carols__ | i'm going to say that the ideas page that you list there is not the one you applied with. |
| 19:19.14 | carols__ | and then i'm going to make a sad face |
| 19:19.17 | carols__ | :-( |
| 19:19.25 | carols__ | because the one you applied with was inaccessible. |
| 19:19.32 | pidgin_elb | inaccessible in what sense? |
| 19:20.00 | carols__ | the ideas page on your application is this one: |
| 19:20.01 | carols__ | https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/FutureSOCProjects |
| 19:20.07 | carols__ | and that's inaccessible to us. |
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| 19:20.17 | carols__ | so that's why you were rejected. |
| 19:20.24 | pidgin_elb | that is very unfortunate |
| 19:20.28 | carols__ | i agree |
| 19:20.33 | carols__ | it made me very sad |
| 19:20.33 | pidgin_elb | I wish someone had contacted us |
| 19:20.56 | pidgin_elb | we have maintained an ideas page for SoC or project newcomers for a decade now |
| 19:21.01 | pidgin_elb | (quite literally, a decade) |
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| 19:21.15 | carols__ | i wish you had included the right ideas page in your application... |
| 19:21.24 | pidgin_elb | we did, I'm sure |
| 19:21.28 | pidgin_elb | that page has been renamed recently |
| 19:21.36 | Masca | IIRC the page was renamed few weeks ago. |
| 19:21.45 | carols__ | i hope you guys will try again next year |
| 19:21.59 | pidgin_elb | we certainly will |
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| 19:22.04 | carols__ | excellent |
| 19:22.07 | carols__ | and thank you for waiting |
| 19:22.15 | scorche|sh | !nextinline |
| 19:22.15 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: Next in line is schily with notice: http://schillix.berlios.de/pmwiki.php/Main/Ideas |
| 19:22.23 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v schily] by scorche|sh |
| 19:22.28 | carols__ | schily: we spoke already, didn't we? |
| 19:22.33 | carols__ | or did we? |
| 19:22.35 | scorche|sh | ah, right |
| 19:22.40 | carols__ | right |
| 19:22.41 | scorche|sh | i believe kblin told me about this |
| 19:22.44 | carols__ | moving along :-) |
| 19:22.48 | scorche|sh | !nextinline |
| 19:22.48 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: Next in line is Theano_nouiz with notice: https://github.com/Theano/Theano/wiki/GSoC2014 |
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| 19:22.54 | carols__ | Theano_nouiz: did you appear? |
| 19:23.01 | carols__ | we skipped you ealier |
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| 19:23.15 | Theano_nouiz | Hi |
| 19:23.17 | carols__ | hi |
| 19:23.18 | Theano_nouiz | I got network problems |
| 19:23.19 | carols__ | ok |
| 19:23.22 | carols__ | no problem |
| 19:23.24 | carols__ | i had them too |
| 19:23.27 | carols__ | a few times, actually |
| 19:23.34 | carols__ | just a sec while i read your app |
| 19:24.02 | carols__ | yeah, so this was about your ideas page |
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| 19:24.14 | carols__ | did you have a chance to read the FAQs and the manual on ideas pages? |
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| 19:24.21 | Theano_nouiz | From your previous comments, I understand that we need to put difficulty and mentors to each idead |
| 19:24.35 | carols__ | yes, and sort them out with a potential mentor, a description, etc |
| 19:24.36 | Theano_nouiz | I read the fact, but didn't saw a manual on ideas page. |
| 19:24.45 | carols__ | i can send you that link |
| 19:24.48 | carols__ | hold on just a sec |
| 19:24.49 | Theano_nouiz | that would be great |
| 19:25.11 | carols__ | http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/making-your-ideas-page/ |
| 19:25.25 | carols__ | hopefully between that and the FAQs that helps you for next year |
| 19:25.26 | Theano_nouiz | In which category we got? |
| 19:25.38 | carols__ | category? |
| 19:25.45 | carols__ | oh, you mean which area? |
| 19:25.49 | Theano_nouiz | yes |
| 19:25.50 | carols__ | that didn't really factor in here |
| 19:25.58 | Theano_nouiz | I understand |
| 19:26.02 | carols__ | we weren't impressed with the ideas page, and that's the first thing we look at |
| 19:26.19 | carols__ | any other questions? |
| 19:26.21 | Theano_nouiz | But you wrote that some area was very competitive and I would like to know ours. |
| 19:26.41 | carols__ | honestly, i didn't need to delve that deeply once we'd seen your ideas page. |
| 19:26.51 | carols__ | i hope you improve it for next year |
| 19:27.05 | Theano_nouiz | Ok. Thanks for your time. |
| 19:27.08 | carols__ | thank you for waiting |
| 19:27.13 | carols__ | i hope you have a nice weekend |
| 19:27.15 | scorche|sh | !nextinline |
| 19:27.15 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: Next in line is NetBSD_mbalmer with notice: http://wiki.netbsd.org/projects/gsoc/ |
| 19:27.19 | Theano_nouiz | you too. |
| 19:27.20 | carols__ | hi NetBSD_mbalmer |
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| 19:27.25 | NetBSD_mbalmer | g'evening |
| 19:27.28 | carols__ | this will be a disappointing one :-( |
| 19:27.31 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v Theano_nouiz] by scorche|sh |
| 19:27.41 | NetBSD_mbalmer | it already was ;) |
| 19:27.58 | carols__ | you guys have participated before and we just needed to make space for new orgs |
| 19:28.06 | carols__ | that's the long and short of it, i'm sorry :-( |
| 19:28.31 | NetBSD_mbalmer | fair enough, thanks for the feedback. |
| 19:28.37 | carols__ | i'm sorry it's not more satisfying than that. |
| 19:28.42 | carols__ | i appreciate you waiting. |
| 19:28.47 | scorche|sh | !nextinline |
| 19:28.47 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: Next in line is astropy_eteq with notice: https://github.com/astropy/astropy/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code-2014-Project-Ideas |
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| 19:29.04 | carols__ | hi astropy_eteq |
| 19:29.09 | astropy_eteq | hello, and thanks for staying with us, carols |
| 19:29.18 | carols__ | were you here when i was talking to the sunpy folks? |
| 19:29.22 | carols__ | of course, thanks for waiting |
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| 19:29.38 | astropy_eteq | I missed part of it, but I heard the tail end: lots of python projects? |
| 19:29.56 | carols__ | yeah, lots. |
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| 19:30.08 | carols__ | i'm hoping you guys would be willing to be under PSF as well this year |
| 19:30.35 | astropy_eteq | yep, that's the plan - that worked for us last year, so we're okay with that |
| 19:30.41 | carols__ | thank you. |
| 19:30.44 | astropy_eteq | one question for possible future years, though |
| 19:30.47 | carols__ | yes |
| 19:30.49 | carols__ | of course |
| 19:30.59 | astropy_eteq | What would it take for the project to stand out? |
| 19:31.08 | astropy_eteq | (admittedly a rather nebulous question) |
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| 19:31.19 | carols__ | hm |
| 19:31.38 | carols__ | well, we loved your ideas page, so that made you stand out for sure |
| 19:32.18 | carols__ | i know it's probably a crazy idea, but something i might suggest is a combined app from you guys and the sunpy guys. |
| 19:32.28 | carols__ | that might have improved your chances together |
| 19:32.37 | carols__ | but that's really the only thing that even comes to mind |
| 19:32.39 | astropy_eteq | hmm, not a crazy idea at all, actually - we've been working with them a lot lately |
| 19:32.42 | carols__ | and it's really out there anyway |
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| 19:32.55 | carols__ | well, something to consider |
| 19:33.00 | carols__ | your ideas page was great |
| 19:33.04 | carols__ | so that wasn't a problem at all |
| 19:33.16 | carols__ | and really, if we'd had less python project apps this year you probably would have made it |
| 19:33.29 | astropy_eteq | hah, ok, totally fair |
| 19:33.30 | carols__ | (you and the sunpy guys) |
| 19:33.41 | carols__ | hope that helps |
| 19:33.56 | astropy_eteq | It does - we'll definitely be talking with sunpy about this next year |
| 19:34.00 | carols__ | excellent |
| 19:34.00 | astropy_eteq | thanks for the feedback! |
| 19:34.03 | carols__ | thanks again for waiting |
| 19:34.06 | carols__ | cheers :-) |
| 19:34.11 | scorche|sh | !nextinline |
| 19:34.11 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: Next in line is radare_xvilka with notice: http://www.radare.org/gsoc |
| 19:34.16 | carols__ | hi radare_xvilka |
| 19:34.17 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v radare_xvilka] by scorche|sh |
| 19:34.23 | radare_xvilka | hi! sorry for the network problems |
| 19:34.24 | carols__ | we skipped you earlier, are you back? |
| 19:34.26 | carols__ | excellent |
| 19:34.30 | carols__ | i had network problems too |
| 19:34.32 | carols__ | i understand |
| 19:34.33 | scorche|sh | this is the end of the queue, FYI |
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| 19:34.39 | carols__ | thanks scorche|sh |
| 19:34.55 | carols__ | unfortunately for you, radare_xvilka, the fact that your ideas page wasn't found was the problem for us |
| 19:35.21 | radare_xvilka | hm, you mean at application stage? |
| 19:35.51 | carols__ | yeah, having a not found ideas page is grounds for rejection from gsoc |
| 19:36.02 | carols__ | did you get a chance to read the FAQs? |
| 19:36.09 | radare_xvilka | thats strange, we have one page with mentors/rules/etc and ideas on the same page |
| 19:36.21 | radare_xvilka | carols__: yes, of course i've read FAQ |
| 19:36.52 | carols__ | great |
| 19:36.53 | carols__ | it's a 404 for me |
| 19:37.10 | radare_xvilka | carols__: now it've changed address to http://www.radare.org/rsoc |
| 19:37.25 | radare_xvilka | due to gsoc rejection |
| 19:37.31 | carols__ | ah, yeah |
| 19:37.36 | carols__ | okay, that works for me |
| 19:37.40 | carols__ | is that what you used in the app? |
| 19:37.43 | carols__ | i can check |
| 19:37.49 | radare_xvilka | yes |
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| 19:38.06 | carols__ | alright, well, let me take a second look |
| 19:38.07 | carols__ | hold on |
| 19:39.03 | carols__ | yeah, the ideas page still isn't quite of the caliber we'd expect :-( |
| 19:39.13 | radare_xvilka | one more thing, btw, due to connection problems i've sent email with a question about the reason of decline - you can ignore it :) |
| 19:39.26 | carols__ | okay, thanks :-) |
| 19:39.35 | radare_xvilka | carols__: please, tell what is missing on the ideas page? |
| 19:39.44 | carols__ | yeah, we'd expect difficulty level and expected outcomes on each idea |
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| 19:40.02 | carols__ | and it's not just tasks that the students are completing, it's a whole three month project |
| 19:40.09 | carols__ | so you'd need to describe that in detail |
| 19:40.26 | radare_xvilka | ah, i see, we've thought skill level overlaps with the difficulty, and possible outcome is really missing, yes |
| 19:40.29 | carols__ | so those would be the main things. |
| 19:40.30 | carols__ | yeah |
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| 19:40.45 | carols__ | i hope you'll try again next year |
| 19:40.56 | carols__ | any other questions? |
| 19:40.58 | radare_xvilka | good news than, that the reason was our ideas page - easy to fix |
| 19:41.02 | carols__ | yeah |
| 19:41.07 | radare_xvilka | carols__: thanks for the answer |
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| 19:41.13 | carols__ | you're welcome |
| 19:41.14 | radare_xvilka | have a good weekend |
| 19:41.15 | carols__ | thanks for waiting |
| 19:41.17 | carols__ | you too! |
| 19:41.19 | carols__ | alright |
| 19:41.22 | scorche|sh | !nextinline |
| 19:41.22 | gsocbot | scorche|sh: There's nobody queued up right now. |
| 19:41.28 | carols__ | with that we are going to end the meeting |
| 19:41.39 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v radare_xvilka] by scorche|sh |
| 19:41.44 | carols__ | ======END GSOC 2014 REJECTED ORGS FEEDBACK MEETING==== |
| 19:41.46 | *** mode/#gsoc [+o carols__] by scorche|sh |
| 19:41.55 | carols__ | and scorche|sh, can you please unmute the channel since i don't have ops right now? |
| 19:41.58 | *** mode/#gsoc [-m] by scorche|sh |
| 19:42.04 | carols__ | thanks scorche|sh |
| 19:42.11 | carols__ | oh, maybe i do |
| 19:42.13 | carols__ | whatever |
| 19:42.19 | carols__ | hope everyone has a nice rest of their day |
| 19:42.23 | scorche|sh | you have it and i unmuted =) |
| 19:42.29 | carols__ | and enjoy the tea :-) |
| 19:42.31 | carols__ | thanks scorche|sh |
| 19:42.56 | carols__ | i'm trundling off to go get some work done |
| 19:43.02 | carols__ | please email me if you need anything |
| 19:43.03 | carols__ | cheers |
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| 19:59.38 | irixuser | hmm |
| 20:00.16 | TCD | I can't tell if this is #gsoc or #tea-apprecation-society sometimes |
| 20:00.21 | TCD | *appreciation |
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| 20:00.52 | sailerboy | haha |
| 20:01.00 | downey | TCD = Tea Connoisseur Detective? |
| 20:01.18 | TCD | Actually it's The Communist Duck, but that works too :p |
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| 20:10.14 | stqism | I can't believe all that is over. |
| 20:11.00 | stqism | Missed the end, but the takeaway seemed to be having a more filling ideas page |
| 20:12.14 | gevaerts | wonders if stqism used "takeaway" and "filling" in the same sentence on purpose |
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| 20:12.50 | stqism | gevaerts: It's the subtle things :) |
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| 21:04.51 | CFS-MP3 | back to normal, can everyone talk now? :-) |
| 21:06.02 | gevaerts | Depends on what you mean |
| 21:06.18 | gevaerts | If you mean, does everyone have something useful to say, then no :) |
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| 21:27.47 | bkuhn | Hey, all, is it common for students to be very aggressive these days, acting as if they're already accepted as a way of endearing themselves to mentors? |
| 21:27.47 | bkuhn | I've not mentored for many years -- this is more of an aggressive process than I remember. :) |
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| 21:28.27 | terri | bkuhn: I haven't seen any I'd judge to be aggressive in that way, although I have seen some who send me 5 emails before my tea is done steeping. |
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| 21:28.38 | bkuhn | terri: ok, that's roughly what I had this morning. Four emails in the matter of 2 hours, telling me how he's going to get started right away (but not knowing exactly what to do). |
| 21:28.51 | terri | bkuhn: i'd say it's par for the course. always one or two who's really gung ho to get started Right Now. they make me feel old. ;) |
| 21:29.03 | bkuhn | Well, it doesn't make me feel old.... |
| 21:29.46 | bkuhn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.55 | bkuhn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.31 | terri | I mean old in the "In MY day, we read the docs and tried stuff out before asking for help, let alone asking 5 times." sense |
| 21:30.32 | bkuhn | Although, to be clear, I am old. I turned 40 last year. |
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| 21:32.28 | bkuhn | terri: well, in my (and probably your day), you got flamed if you asked a question like these kids are asking. :) |
| 21:32.28 | bkuhn | We have improved in that a regard. |
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| 21:32.28 | bkuhn | I was polite to him, but indicated that if he put a patch together now on his own, that'd help his app, but I couldn't guarantee anything. |
| 21:32.28 | bkuhn | We'll see what he says next. |
| 21:32.28 | terri | bkuhn: yeah, I'm a tad younger than you, but definitely with the flaming. I think I'm disadvantaged because python has a rep of being friendly. ;) |
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| 21:32.29 | terri | it's a better world where we don't scare off the keeners, but as I said, makes me feel old. ;) |
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| 21:32.30 | bkuhn | What's weird to me is the "acting as if I'm already mentoring" him |
| 21:32.30 | bkuhn | It'd be less odd if he said: "I'm really excited about this project, so I hope I can do something now to get moving" |
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| 21:33.26 | n|west | I've got one student taking my suggestions and facts, then repeating them back to me a day later as justification for why something is a good idea.... |
| 21:34.04 | gevaerts | terri: you can *fix* good reputations, you know ;) |
| 21:34.26 | bkuhn | n|west: that sounds like my guy too. |
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| 21:36.25 | plasma_jvilk | Yeah. It's hard to deal with eager but underprepared students, since I can understand where they are coming from. |
| 21:37.23 | jvilk | During the application process last year, we tried to repeatedly help one applicant with a starter assignment for about a week before having to tell him gently that he might not be the best fit for the project. |
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| 21:39.01 | jvilk | I think some are under the impression that their probability of being accepted by an organization is correlated with the amount of (digital) face time they get, which isn't necessarily true. |
| 21:39.33 | gevaerts | It's the usual quantity vs quality thing again |
| 21:39.53 | jvilk | Then you have applicants that are overqualified and hesitant to apply. :) |
| 21:43.01 | stqism | I've gotten applicants who sell themselves like they are phd students and invented a multimillion dollar product used by everyone but can't read a paragraph labeled student information |
| 21:43.08 | TCD | I'd think something like this would be hard to be overqualified for :p |
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| 21:45.50 | TCD | stqism: If you find anything that reduces the amount of people that come to you for something without reading even a single sentence..I will throw so much money at you to find out what it is. >_> |
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| 21:47.39 | stqism | TCD: A short quiz to view any contact info. Will this be cash or credit? :) |
| 21:48.56 | stqism | TCD: But seriously, I think people are just searching for @ on as many idea pages as possible to shoot out a bunch of emails |
| 21:49.55 | irungentoo | people who message me seem to have read everything |
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| 21:50.58 | stqism | irungentoo: Try placing your email up. |
| 21:51.19 | TCD | stqism: A neat idea, unfortunately doesn't fit my (albeit unspecified) use case. :P |
| 21:51.21 | stqism | irungentoo: I usually wake up to a dozen a day. |
| 21:51.38 | n|west | stqism: wow, what project? |
| 21:51.45 | n|west | are those unique? |
| 21:52.10 | stqism | n|west: Most android, some iOS, rarely something else. Https://tox.im |
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| 21:52.41 | paultag | uch, why does everyone not bother checking for other big f/oss projects with the same name |
| 21:52.45 | stqism | Pretty sure Android is a catchy buzzword |
| 21:52.49 | paultag | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/tox |
| 21:53.06 | n|west | ah, yea I've heard of tox recently. Seems to be a hot topic these days |
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| 21:53.32 | stqism | paultag: We know, look at NaCl and NaCl. Ones a crypto the other is native client. |
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| 21:53.51 | paultag | stqism: that doesn't make it ok, it just means goog doesn't care |
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| 21:54.27 | paultag | just like docker/docker and node/node |
| 21:54.40 | stqism | paultag: Sharing a name doesn't hurt anyone. |
| 21:54.44 | paultag | it's a *very* annoying problem and will lead to pain when you try to get it into a distro |
| 21:54.47 | paultag | it does. |
| 21:54.49 | stqism | As long as they do separate things. |
| 21:54.54 | irungentoo | having the same name as another project is ok as long as both are very different |
| 21:54.57 | paultag | it causes distros massive pain. |
| 21:55.13 | stqism | paultag: The test suite is only distributed via pip |
| 21:55.14 | irungentoo | it's not a problem on gentoo |
| 21:55.15 | paultag | and 4 years to rename minimum in Debian |
| 21:55.18 | n|west | but most distros do something like python-tox, anyway |
| 21:55.27 | paultag | I hope you use tox to test tox |
| 21:55.30 | paultag | that'd be fitting irony |
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| 21:55.47 | stqism | n|west: pip install tox vs package manager some form of libtoxcore-devel |
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| 21:56.07 | paultag | what the heck is libtoxcore-devel |
| 21:56.12 | n|west | yea, I agree that it *can* be very annoying. But this doesn't seem to be one of those cases |
| 21:56.32 | paultag | oh one of your projects thingies. |
| 21:56.33 | stqism | paultag: Core library + headers |
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| 21:56.46 | n|west | they are sufficiently different with a unique name that collisions are unlikely |
| 21:56.54 | stqism | paultag: Using the standard Debian library naming convention |
| 21:56.58 | paultag | uh |
| 21:57.00 | paultag | no it's not |
| 21:57.02 | paultag | -dev not -devel |
| 21:57.05 | stqism | Derp |
| 21:57.07 | paultag | ← Debian ftpmaster |
| 21:57.11 | paultag | ftpteam member* |
| 21:57.12 | stqism | It's been a while |
| 21:57.23 | olasd | yeah, you're a mere assistant :P |
| 21:57.34 | olasd | nice try though |
| 21:57.36 | paultag | typo'd |
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| 21:57.58 | olasd | still highlights on debian in here... |
| 21:58.02 | paultag | good call |
| 21:58.26 | paultag | anyway, back to workj |
| 21:59.58 | olly | paultag: nice attempt at self-promotion |
| 22:00.07 | paultag | olly: what can I say |
| 22:00.08 | stqism | ^ |
| 22:01.15 | olly | paultag: i hear you were kicked from #debian-ftp yesterday |
| 22:01.25 | paultag | yeah, by some idiot, mirite |
| 22:01.40 | olasd | that paultag guy, really untrustworthy |
| 22:01.45 | olly | i think the guy had just got ops and the power had gone to his head |
| 22:01.54 | olly | but you were probably asking for it |
| 22:01.55 | paultag | sounds right to me |
| 22:01.57 | paultag | well of course |
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| 22:30.35 | *** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> 2014 mentoring orgs announced, list at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC | Student application starts on 10 March, s |
| 22:31.27 | ankesh11 | The proposals from previous years are inaccessible, I remember them active some time back. Is this deliberate, or a bug? |
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| 22:32.07 | *** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> Google Summer of Code 2014 mentoring orgs announced, list at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC | Student application starts on 10 March, see timeline: http://goo.gl/Anraxm |
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| 22:32.13 | kblin | three time's the charm :) |
| 22:32.23 | kblin | ankesh11: a question for #melange, maybe? |
| 22:34.27 | olly | 2014 mentoring orgs! that's a real record |
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