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| 01:43.21 | gsocbot | larryxiao: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 01:45.24 | Akhil_T | !next |
| 01:45.27 | gsocbot | Akhil_T: "next" is The student application period opens on 10th March |
| 01:45.35 | Akhil_T | !stats |
| 01:45.36 | gsocbot | Akhil_T: I have 2 registered users with 2 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 01:46.17 | olly | !numapps | Akhil_T |
| 01:46.17 | gsocbot | Akhil_T: "numapps" is In 2014, 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were accepted. 2013: 117/417 orgs; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students) |
| 01:46.47 | Akhil_T | :D olly thats what I was looking for Thanks! |
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| 02:29.32 | chok | hello there, does someone know if the number of applications by organization are disclosed ? |
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| 02:39.51 | olly | chok: it isn't |
| 02:40.02 | olly | you can ask an org, though they don't have to tell you |
| 02:40.21 | chok | olly: ok thks |
| 02:40.23 | olly | but the number of applications isn't much of a guide |
| 02:40.34 | olly | you need to know how many slots google will allocate them |
| 02:40.48 | olly | which partly depends on the number of applications they get |
| 02:41.12 | chok | yeah |
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| 02:43.27 | chok | i have made a few researches in order to find the exact process for assigning the ranked sudents to the slots, but it seems that it has evolved through the years |
| 02:43.53 | olly | chok: are you a student or an org admin? |
| 02:43.59 | chok | a student |
| 02:44.03 | olly | if you're a student, it's really not relevant |
| 02:44.18 | olly | the org selects the proposals they want, knowing they have N slots |
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| 02:45.41 | chok | yeah but what if i file many applications to diiferent org that eventually select me ? How the conflict is resolved ? |
| 02:46.07 | olly | you can only submit 5 proposals at most |
| 02:46.17 | olly | but 2 is a saner number |
| 02:46.26 | chok | in the FAQ, they say that the org talk to each others |
| 02:46.38 | olly | 5 poor proposals won't get you selected, 2 good ones probably will |
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| 02:46.57 | olly | if two orgs both selected your proposal, it's up to them to resolve it |
| 02:47.20 | chok | so that means i can't rank my application ? |
| 02:47.21 | brlcad | chok: heh, don't worry about conflicts .. that's a good problem to have |
| 02:47.22 | olly | if they can't, carols will ultimately decide, possibly arbitrarily |
| 02:47.29 | brlcad | worry about writing just a couple good proposals |
| 02:47.32 | TCD | 2? welp, I had 4 down for going further with :p |
| 02:47.34 | olly | chok: don't apply for a project you don't want to do |
| 02:47.48 | olly | but if you have a preference, tell the orgs |
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| 02:47.52 | brlcad | 2 orgs is usually optimal |
| 02:48.00 | olly | they don't have to follow it though |
| 02:48.09 | chok | ok for 2 |
| 02:48.11 | olly | but they probably will if there's not another factor |
| 02:48.46 | olly | if you're worried an org will look down on a proposal that's your second option, just tell the org you prefer |
| 02:49.13 | olly | it's not been a factor in decisions I've been involved in though |
| 02:49.19 | chok | whe you said, tell the orgs, you mean after the ranking and only if they contact me OR in the application ? |
| 02:49.36 | brlcad | it's a shame in some ways that org application counts are not published for everyone, or their prospective acceptance ratio based on their desired number of slots |
| 02:50.01 | TCD | brlcad: From what I've heard, there's a lot of applications which aren't very good, so :p |
| 02:50.05 | olly | brlcad: levels of junk seem to vary wildly though |
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| 02:50.07 | brlcad | because some of the big "popular" orgs get WAY too many applications while other orgs get far too few |
| 02:50.34 | olly | but some way to even out the applications would be nice |
| 02:50.38 | TCD | Plus, you'd get the people going for the smaller orgs JUST because they think they'd get a place easier. |
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| 02:50.44 | brlcad | I bet the junk ratio comes in "roughly" similar percentages no matter the org |
| 02:50.53 | brlcad | we certainly have gotten junk every year, some more than others |
| 02:50.59 | olly | brlcad: having been involved in several orgs, it doesn't seem to be |
| 02:51.35 | chok | i am really intrested in low-level stuffs, C, kernel drivers, arm ... |
| 02:51.51 | TCD | There's seemingly tons of kernel and OS orgs :P |
| 02:52.15 | olly | i suspect it may be down to where you are in an alphabetical list, whether you set lots of tags to help students find you, whether you have an active irc channel, etc |
| 02:52.26 | brlcad | still, gnome getting 200 apps and selecting 15 with 50% junk vs another getting 40 apps, 25% junk and selecting 10 ... the odds are usually in their favor to go with less notable orgs in my experience |
| 02:52.34 | chok | does it counts among the field played by org that you say are the biggest ones ? |
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| 02:53.15 | TCD | Yeah...I know one IRC channel I've been in has seen 0 activity, and another where there's been me and one other active participant |
| 02:53.22 | olly | brlcad: are those real numbers for gnome? |
| 02:54.14 | brlcad | olly: real numbers from really vague recollections of summit discussions years ago, so no ;) |
| 02:54.33 | brlcad | the general notion has come up at a number of summits though |
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| 02:54.44 | TCD | Half this conversation makes me feel slightly relieved, and half of it makes me worried I don't stand a chance, hah :P |
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| 02:56.30 | chok | i know that honeynet received 58 appli one year |
| 02:56.32 | brlcad | one year, we literally rounded up enough mentors for about 20 students, testing out our max mentoring capacity .. we ended up with 11 because there simply weren't enough qualified proposals (something like 30-40 proposals received that year iirc) |
| 02:57.04 | TCD | so out of 30+ proposals, only 11 of them were qualified enough? D: |
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| 02:58.03 | olly | brlcad: hmm, just occurred to me that some of my numbers aren't comparable as they're from before when students could submit up to 20 proposals |
| 02:58.07 | brlcad | "qualified" means that the student wrote a detailed proposal, spoke with our community, made a simple patch, and their goals matched up with their ability level |
| 02:58.27 | olly | there were a lot more that were total junk back then |
| 02:58.36 | TCD | Ahh, okay |
| 02:58.50 | chok | brlcad: i don't understand : you are an org admin ? which ? |
| 02:58.54 | brlcad | TCD: basically, if they wrote a "good" proposal, they were in -- 100% acceptance |
| 02:59.01 | olly | chok: the clue's in the nick |
| 02:59.34 | TCD | This might be either me overlooking something on the main site or an org-specific thing, but are there example proposals from previous years floating around? |
| 02:59.35 | TCD | er, example accepted* |
| 02:59.48 | olly | there are some in the student guide |
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| 03:00.10 | TCD | will give it another read, thanks |
| 03:00.21 | brlcad | TCD: last year's proposals for our org were all pretty stellar: http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2013 |
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| 03:01.38 | TCD | awesome |
| 03:01.51 | chok | brlcad: did all the students were able to match their deadlines and reach goals ? |
| 03:02.05 | brlcad | this year we're collaborating with three other communities as an umbrella org, so we'll probably again have far more mentors than qualified students |
| 03:02.29 | TCD | after saying that, you'll suddenly get flooded with proposals ;) |
| 03:03.02 | brlcad | chok: several exceeded expectations |
| 03:03.33 | chok | by the way, i did not know this cad |
| 03:03.47 | brlcad | two fell a little behind and almost didn't make it but they put in solid effort |
| 03:05.49 | brlcad | TCD: I highly doubt it, many students get scared away by our terminology (even though the tasks aren't nearly as hard as they sound) |
| 03:06.45 | chok | another question : why the schedule is shifted years after years ? in 2014, students start coding the 19th of May, in 2013 , it was the 17th of June, in 2012 it was the 21th of may ... etc |
| 03:07.02 | olly | they tried moving it later in 2013 |
| 03:07.10 | brlcad | adjusted trying to appease different objectives, not conflict with other events, etc |
| 03:07.16 | olly | as people complained it didn't fit the university term in many placed |
| 03:07.18 | olly | places |
| 03:07.26 | olly | but other people complained then |
| 03:08.22 | TCD | 'Idea: render a sphere; |
| 03:08.46 | olly | so 2013 is atypical, it's mostly been around the earlier dates |
| 03:08.48 | chok | with more than 170 org and 1200 students, they cannot find a perfect schedule, yes ... |
| 03:09.03 | olly | it's more the hundreds of countries |
| 03:09.13 | chok | but it looks like a pattern |
| 03:09.25 | TCD | It'd be really nice if there could be /some/ kind of unity in education systems, but that's a discussion for somewhere else. :P |
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| 03:09.48 | chok | odd year start in may and even in june :) |
| 03:10.02 | olly | chok: you need more data points |
| 03:10.52 | olly | TCD: a long break in the middle of the year doesn't make much sense where that's winter |
| 03:10.56 | TCD | I've noticed a pattern - in previous years the start date was approximately 1 year before each time |
| 03:11.06 | chok | yeah you are right may in 2011 |
| 03:11.18 | chok | and 2012 |
| 03:11.47 | chok | TCD: really ? |
| 03:11.52 | TCD | olly: I was referring more to stuff like the UK 'college' is closer to the US 'high school', and the US 'college' is a UK 'university', and I still can't work out how 'juniors' are actually 3rd year students :p |
| 03:12.55 | olly | having been through the UK eduction system, I'm not sure I'd really agree with that |
| 03:13.07 | olly | though they terminology might have changed I guess |
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| 03:14.42 | olly | the US use of "school" for university is perhaps a better example |
| 03:14.42 | TCD | I'm fine with the UK system, but it gets confusing when talking to people in the US one and not realising what they mean |
| 03:14.58 | olly | but oxbridge colleges are part of the universities |
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| 03:15.50 | olly | and aside from some sixth form colleges, I don't recall college being used for pre-university at all |
| 03:16.25 | TCD | Sixth-form colleges are almost the norm; where I lived there was 1 actual sixth form attached to a school, and about 4 nearby colleges |
| 03:16.38 | TCD | However they were always sixth-form or college, never sixth-form college |
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| 03:43.34 | wh0ar3you | If I'm 18, but only a high-school student, would I be correct to assume I am not eligible? |
| 03:43.57 | olly | wh0ar3you: you can if you're accepted into a university |
| 03:44.17 | olly | IIRC there's actually an FAQ about exactly this |
| 03:44.20 | stqism | And you're in by April |
| 03:44.27 | stqism | !faq | wh0ar3you |
| 03:44.27 | gsocbot | wh0ar3you: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 03:44.36 | wh0ar3you | ah, so the summer before my freshman year wouldn't apply |
| 03:44.45 | olly | april 24th is the magic date IIRC |
| 03:45.02 | olly | wh0ar3you: so if you have a letter of acceptance, you don't need to have actually started |
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| 03:46.09 | olly | 21st in fact |
| 03:46.12 | olly | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#7._I_have_been_accepted_into_an |
| 03:46.33 | wh0ar3you | ah, allright. Cool |
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| 03:53.14 | thiago | wh0ar3you: the university has to say in a document "yes, this person is a student right now" on April 21st |
| 03:53.51 | wh0ar3you | weeelllll shit |
| 03:54.00 | wh0ar3you | I'll have to see if the college is willing to do that |
| 03:54.11 | wh0ar3you | junior college and all that |
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| 04:27.57 | rlyshw | thiago: Will a scan of an acceptance letter suffice? |
| 04:28.31 | thiago | rlyshw: will the university write a document saying "this person is enrolled on this date and is a student"? |
| 04:28.47 | thiago | the acceptance might not, since you may be accepted for the Fall Semestre |
| 04:29.29 | rlyshw | thiago: I was under the impression that I was elligle because I was accepted for the fall semester |
| 04:30.43 | rlyshw | rechecking the FAQ |
| 04:33.28 | rlyshw | Ok section 5 of students and eligibility says "accepted into or enrolled...as of 21 April, 2014" phew |
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| 07:29.02 | PulkoMandy | no |
| 07:29.39 | modocache | Haha, zing! |
| 07:30.05 | Vicky | well i am new to irc channel |
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| 07:30.50 | Vicky | actuall how can i see the people online in that channel |
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| 07:42.14 | PulkoMandy | Vicky: that depends on what IRC client you use, mine has a list on the right |
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| 09:16.54 | Vicky | actually i am new to GSoC i have reviewed all the project ideas and have listed some of them whom i willing to work with can anybody tell what to do next?? |
| 09:18.44 | olly | Vicky: go and talk to those orgs |
| 09:19.05 | olly | there should be contact info on the org's page in melange |
| 09:19.15 | olly | IRC, mailing list, forum, etc |
| 09:19.36 | olly | but you may need to be patient, a lot of mentors are doing this in their spare time |
| 09:20.44 | Vicky | we will start talking by know or after 10th ( student partiticipation) |
| 09:21.34 | CFS-MP3 | Vicky the sooner the better |
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| 09:22.41 | PlkMdy | you can start talking now |
| 09:22.57 | PlkMdy | on the 10th the official registration opens, but there is no reason to wait for that |
| 09:23.13 | Vicky | thank you |
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| 10:07.47 | chronos13 | hello |
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| 10:10.11 | Cheng_Zheng | hello~ |
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| 10:21.50 | VaticanCameos | !next |
| 10:21.53 | gsocbot | VaticanCameos: "next" is The student application period opens on 10th March |
| 10:22.06 | VaticanCameos | lol |
| 10:22.14 | VaticanCameos | And my internal exams begin soon after. |
| 10:22.16 | VaticanCameos | Sigh. |
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| 10:27.32 | olly | VaticanCameos: talk to orgs now then |
| 10:28.00 | VaticanCameos | olly: Appreciate the suggestion, I'm already on it. |
| 10:28.01 | olly | you can even show them the application you're working on and get feedback, then submit it nicely polished on 10th |
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| 10:28.18 | VaticanCameos | olly: I'll be working on the application overnight :d |
| 10:28.49 | olly | sure, just making sure you knew you could talk to orgs already - seems a lot of students don't realise that |
| 10:29.16 | VaticanCameos | Hmmm. |
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| 10:32.37 | ramsub07 | When will the list of projects that are selected for an organization be put up ? |
| 10:33.42 | novochen | ramsub07, I think that's already put up. |
| 10:35.44 | ramsub07 | Even the project ideas ? |
| 10:37.08 | darnir_ | Project ideas are not selected. |
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| 10:37.31 | darnir_ | Organizations have been selected. They can now give whatever projects they wish to. |
| 10:38.04 | darnir_ | Google will only cap the maximum number of projects they give. That process is known as slot allocation and will happen after students have submitted their proposals |
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| 10:38.56 | ramsub07_ | So it is entirely upto the organization to select the projects that they want to depending upon the slots ? |
| 10:39.04 | ramsub07_ | *project ideas |
| 10:39.25 | darnir_ | Yes |
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| 10:41.11 | PlkMdy | also depending on the students |
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| 12:36.35 | kidrock | Just heard about GSOC. What's a good place to start? |
| 12:36.45 | kidrock | To check requirements, etc. |
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| 12:38.33 | Niharika | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 12:40.27 | kidrock | Thanks Niharika :) |
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| 13:36.20 | Strangerke | hi everybody |
| 13:37.50 | d3r1ck | Strangerke: hi |
| 13:38.02 | d3r1ck | Strangerke: how are you preparing? |
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| 13:41.21 | novochen | hi Strangerke |
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| 13:42.32 | Strangerke | d3r1ck: There are a lot of internal discussions at ScummVM.. But it seems fine for the moment. What about you? |
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| 13:45.13 | d3r1ck | GeraldLohnauer: well i am tring my best, just that we are writing exams now |
| 13:45.27 | d3r1ck | GeraldLohnauer: that was not for you |
| 13:45.38 | d3r1ck | GeraldLohnauer: well i am tring my best, just that we are writing exams now |
| 13:45.45 | d3r1ck | GeraldLohnauer: sorry |
| 13:46.06 | MatthewWilkes | :) |
| 13:46.11 | d3r1ck | Strangerke: well i am fine and trying my best, just that we are writing exams now and i am really busy |
| 13:46.50 | Strangerke | d3r1ck: May I deduce that you're a student for the GSoC and not a mentor/org admin? |
| 13:47.18 | d3r1ck | Strangerke: i am a student Strangerke |
| 13:47.27 | d3r1ck | Strangerke: what about you? |
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| 13:49.28 | kblin | Strangerke: you're with scummvm? thanks for such a great bit of software :) |
| 13:51.38 | Strangerke | kblin: Thanks! :) |
| 13:51.56 | Strangerke | d3r1ck: I'm the org admin for ScummVM (and ResidualVM) |
| 13:52.24 | MatthewWilkes | I haven't played monkey island in… hmm… 20 years? |
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| 13:53.36 | Strangerke | MatthewWilkes: It's fun to play it again after all this time, because you don't remember the solutions of the puzzles |
| 13:53.48 | MatthewWilkes | I bet! |
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| 13:54.06 | d3r1ck | Strangerke: what is the channel name? |
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| 13:54.13 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: have I told you yet that I'll be there at 13:30? We can probably meet up somewhere in the evening if you don't have too many other plans |
| 13:54.15 | d3r1ck | Strangerke: for you channel? |
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| 13:54.36 | kblin | d3r1ck: #scummvm? just guessing here |
| 13:54.47 | Strangerke | kblin: right |
| 13:55.03 | d3r1ck | kblin: let me try that |
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| 13:55.44 | Ivanovic | Strangerke: uhm, when i played the "special edition" i did remember most of the solutions... |
| 13:55.58 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: You hadn't! I'll probably be at the bar. We're going to the after party at Moeder Lambic |
| 13:56.02 | kblin | #projectname works amazingly well on freenode |
| 13:56.47 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: ah, great. That's easy :) |
| 13:57.03 | MatthewWilkes | but at 1… we'll probably still be at cantillon ;) |
| 13:57.13 | MatthewWilkes | s/probably/certainly/ |
| 13:57.25 | gevaerts | There is that :) |
| 13:57.47 | Strangerke | Ivanovic: then your memory is in better shape than mine :) |
| 13:58.11 | Strangerke | MatthewWilkes: Are you in Belgium? |
| 13:58.33 | MatthewWilkes | Strangerke: No, I'm based in the UK. I'm just coming for a few days at the end of next month |
| 13:58.54 | Strangerke | ok |
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| 13:59.50 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: From RateBeer: 'Asked at the source yesterday about the space-time equation and the reply was: "you book tickets for a specific 30min slot, but obviously you get 2-2,5 hours time to sample all beers." When asked about the logic behind that, an impatient stare...' |
| 14:00.04 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: flow control :) |
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| 14:00.30 | MatthewWilkes | So, we'll have been there 2.5 hours when you arrive |
| 14:00.57 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: busy museums do the same thing. Let a maximum number of people in per hour or half hour, and assuming there is such a thing as an average visit time, you can more or less control the number of people in there at the same time |
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| 14:02.01 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: I'm thirsty now… |
| 14:02.17 | gevaerts | gives MatthewWilkes a cup of tea |
| 14:02.28 | gevaerts | This is #gsoc after all :) |
| 14:03.01 | MatthewWilkes | I quite fancy a quimen at the moment, but I'm all out and this office doesn't have facilities |
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| 14:44.47 | cff | such gsoc, many projects, very cool |
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| 14:51.21 | JordiGH | Do you guys "lock" ideas? Or attempt to discourage two students to work on the same idea in any way? |
| 14:51.30 | JordiGH | I'm thinking this is an unnecessary thing. |
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| 14:55.24 | PulkoMandy | JordiGH: we let them know they picked a popular idea |
| 14:55.25 | bePolite | JordiGH: Lock Ideas |
| 14:55.43 | JordiGH | bePolite: Why? |
| 14:55.52 | PulkoMandy | and we tell them: "either make sure you come with a very great proposal, or consider one of the other ideas, even as a backup proposal" |
| 14:55.55 | JordiGH | PulkoMandy: And thus discourage them from picking that popular idea? |
| 14:56.07 | JordiGH | PulkoMandy: Do you really not want more than one person working on each project? |
| 14:56.27 | PulkoMandy | that depends on your projects |
| 14:56.39 | PulkoMandy | some of our ideas are so open ended it would not be a problem |
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| 14:57.00 | PulkoMandy | (eg. add support for a new filesystem to the OS - each student takes a different FS, problem solved) |
| 14:57.21 | JordiGH | But it's impossible to have two students work together on the same FS? |
| 14:57.29 | PulkoMandy | some of our ideas don't work this way, and we would have no real use for two concurrent implementations |
| 14:57.35 | PulkoMandy | it's possible, but not useful to us |
| 14:57.42 | JordiGH | Not concurrent, two people working on the same one. |
| 14:57.47 | PulkoMandy | and GSoC rules doesn't allow students to collaborate |
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| 14:58.20 | JordiGH | GSoC rules don't allow two students on the same slot, but of course it doesn't disallow them from collaborating: they are collaborating with us! Why not collaborate with each other too? |
| 14:58.39 | PulkoMandy | this could create problem in evaluating them |
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| 14:59.07 | gevaerts | JordiGH: you can't create the situation where one of them can't finish the project because the other one vanished |
| 14:59.09 | JordiGH | Okay, talking to you, my opinion is cemented: locking ideas is unnecessary. |
| 14:59.13 | PulkoMandy | I think it would work, if the students know about it beforehand, and in their respective proposal they already have separated the tasks they want to handle |
| 14:59.29 | gevaerts | If you can avoid that, I don't think it's a problem |
| 14:59.36 | JordiGH | gevaerts: Yeah, that's pretty easy to avoid. |
| 14:59.49 | bePolite | JordiGH: was wondering what you mean't by lock Ideas |
| 14:59.53 | PulkoMandy | again, depends on the idea and the way they share the work |
| 15:00.30 | JordiGH | bePolite: Not allowing more than one student per project, or if they start submitting patches right now during the application period, to let them know that someone else is already submitting patches. |
| 15:01.23 | PulkoMandy | we just let them know. our slot count is limited, and having someone else apply for the same idea play against them - particularly if the concurrent students don't seem to collaborate |
| 15:01.27 | bePolite | Ok |
| 15:01.46 | PulkoMandy | I wouldn't consider it a stopper, but the number of slots is limited and it's better to let the students know about it |
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| 15:02.11 | JordiGH | PulkoMandy: My own opinion is that the task they choose to work on is kind of unimportant, since there's almost no chance that their code will be a breakthrough. What we really want is to give them a coding experience they will enjoy, and the most important thing for that is to let them work on what they want to work on. |
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| 15:02.55 | JordiGH | Telling them, "you can't pick that, someone else already did" seems detrimental to me. |
| 15:03.16 | PulkoMandy | yes, I agree on that. And if you get two conflicting (not collaborating) students working on the same idea, the outcome is picking one implementation, and dropping the other |
| 15:03.42 | gevaerts | JordiGH: the other risk is of course that you might only merge one, which would demotivate the others |
| 15:03.50 | JordiGH | In almost all of our past GSoC experiences, student code was not ready to be merged in after GSoC ended, even though it was good enough to pass. It still took months of work after GSoC to be able to integrate the code. |
| 15:04.24 | PulkoMandy | some of our students got commit access during GSoC and merged their own changes |
| 15:04.41 | PulkoMandy | but that depends on the idea, and the way the project works overall |
| 15:04.43 | JordiGH | On their own branch, I would expect. |
| 15:05.06 | JordiGH | We're pretty picky about code quality, and it takes a long time before we trust anyone with push access to the core repo. |
| 15:05.11 | PulkoMandy | maybe our quality expectations for our trunk are lower than yours |
| 15:05.17 | PulkoMandy | or maybe our students are great |
| 15:05.18 | JordiGH | You use svn? |
| 15:05.28 | JordiGH | You use svnly language. |
| 15:05.33 | PulkoMandy | we switched to git, but we still use it pretty much like svn |
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| 15:06.55 | JordiGH | Hm. |
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| 15:08.56 | cff | such wow |
| 15:09.32 | JordiGH | PulkoMandy: What project do you work on? GNU Octave here. |
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| 15:14.41 | sumanah | *wave* hope people are doing well |
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| 15:18.20 | Valodim | anyone have some general info on the distribution of slots? |
| 15:18.38 | Valodim | more particularly, is it common for projects to get one slot only? |
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| 15:19.26 | brlcad | Valodim: new projects usually only get 1-2 slots their first year |
| 15:19.33 | brlcad | some exceptions, but usually fewer |
| 15:19.47 | gevaerts | I *think* 1 is unusual, although sometimes the org only wants one |
| 15:19.56 | brlcad | veteran orgs tend to get what they ask for within reason |
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| 15:20.21 | Valodim | that's helpful, thanks :) |
| 15:20.28 | PulkoMandy | yes, there are very small orgs that wouldn't want more than 1 |
| 15:20.52 | PulkoMandy | mentoring takes some effort, and to do it well, you don't want to have too many students at the same time |
| 15:21.23 | brlcad | Valodim: orgs are also rarely allocated more students than they have mentors, as a general rule of thumb (again some exceptions all the way up to 2:1) |
| 15:21.32 | unitraxx | We had 3 slots in our first year. Perhaps because we had a team of 4 mentors. |
| 15:22.14 | Valodim | so what's the main criteria for slot distribution? |
| 15:22.18 | Valodim | number of proposals? |
| 15:22.55 | brlcad | several factors |
| 15:23.28 | brlcad | the biggest criteria is probably the number the org asks for (they're not going to get more than that) |
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| 15:24.21 | brlcad | followed by other factors like experience, num proposals, and num mentors |
| 15:24.55 | brlcad | basically an automatic assignment happens based on what orgs want and then carols nudges everyone up or down until it all stabilizes |
| 15:25.19 | Valodim | that's about what I would have expected. great, thanks for the info :) |
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| 15:25.46 | kblin | I think unless the org only wants one slot, nobody gets less than two |
| 15:26.07 | brlcad | all the more reason to apply to less infamous orgs ;) |
| 15:26.26 | kblin | and the large umbrella orgs like KDE and PSF get a lot of slots |
| 15:26.39 | kblin | but arguably those are spread over a large number of subprojects |
| 15:26.42 | PulkoMandy | there are some final tweaking to the number of slots when resolving conflicts |
| 15:26.50 | PulkoMandy | (students getting accepted in 2 orgs) |
| 15:27.16 | kblin | right, but usually that involves slot trades between orgs |
| 15:27.17 | gevaerts | Also, organisations can request more slots and return slots after the first allocation |
| 15:27.40 | kblin | hm, not sure I agree with that |
| 15:27.53 | kblin | orgs are asked for two numbers |
| 15:28.07 | kblin | sort of a lower and upper bound for slots |
| 15:28.10 | PulkoMandy | previous years I remember there was a waiting list during the conflict resolution, and extra slots would be distributed there |
| 15:28.21 | brlcad | we have almost always given slots back |
| 15:28.30 | gevaerts | PulkoMandy: define "during the conflict resolution" :) |
| 15:28.38 | kblin | the number allocated to the org is somewhere between these bounds |
| 15:28.43 | PulkoMandy | we have a timeline, right? |
| 15:28.51 | brlcad | during the meeting, I remember that as well |
| 15:29.11 | gevaerts | There's no reassignation between orgs during the meeting |
| 15:29.23 | brlcad | we ended up giving away a slot to someone right then and there |
| 15:29.26 | gevaerts | Slots can be lost there, but not won |
| 15:29.58 | PulkoMandy | gevaerts: I think this happened in some past years |
| 15:30.17 | PulkoMandy | maybe it doesn't anymre, seeing there is a "first round" de-duplication in the timeline now |
| 15:30.42 | gevaerts | PulkoMandy: the meeting has been a last resort for several years now |
| 15:31.42 | brlcad | and yet still lasts over an hour |
| 15:32.10 | gevaerts | now has to check! |
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| 15:33.33 | gevaerts | brlcad: 25 minutes last year |
| 15:33.44 | gevaerts | 21:00 <carols> ======BEGIN IRC deduplication meeting for Google Summer of Code 2013======== |
| 15:33.47 | brlcad | haha |
| 15:33.48 | gevaerts | 21:25 <carols> ====END IRC deduplication meeting===== |
| 15:34.13 | brlcad | good sleuthing, I stand corrected .. maybe just how long it feels waiting for the meeting to begin |
| 15:34.23 | sumanah | Valodim: are you a mentor, org admin, student ....? |
| 15:34.30 | brlcad | or maybe biased from prior years where it took a couple hours |
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| 15:44.42 | Valodim | sumanah: student |
| 15:45.03 | sumanah | Valodim: welcome and best of luck in your participation :) |
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| 15:46.28 | kblin | brlcad: I think you remember the earlier years |
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| 15:53.42 | Valodim | sumanah: thanks :) |
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| 16:28.22 | Palash | feels that time difference affects indians the most. |
| 16:28.57 | sumanah | Palash: it's tough. |
| 16:29.20 | sumanah | It helps that past GSoC students from India are now mentors & org admins |
| 16:29.29 | Palash | sumanah : most mentors come online after 1:00 AM ist. |
| 16:29.58 | Palash | sumanah : agreed. however still a major portion of mentors is from eur/us |
| 16:30.02 | sumanah | Yeah, I know. |
| 16:30.12 | sumanah | It is taking time to grow the South Asian FLOSS community. |
| 16:30.31 | Palash | nods my head |
| 16:30.39 | Palash | lol .. |
| 16:30.47 | Palash | that grammar :D |
| 16:30.53 | sumanah | What are the good South Asian FLOSS conferences and mailing lists and IRC channels, in your opinion? It seems FOSS.in has breathed its last. |
| 16:31.02 | sumanah | I hope PyCon India is good. |
| 16:31.19 | Palash | sumanah : yeah PyCon India is quite good ! |
| 16:31.32 | sumanah | (My parents are from India but I was born and raised in the US.) |
| 16:31.55 | sumanah | (The founder of OpenHatch, Asheesh Laroia, is also a US resident of South Asian descent.) |
| 16:32.01 | Palash | sumanah : I've decided to apply for arches and timvideos this time, however the mentor's are in us/canada :( |
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| 16:32.28 | Niharika | sumanah: Out of curiosity, do you know Hindi? :) |
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| 16:32.38 | sumanah | No, I don't. My parents are from Karnataka and I know a little Kannada. |
| 16:32.39 | djvdm123 | I know hindi |
| 16:33.00 | sumanah | My Hindi is limited to "dil pyaar kya he? ek do jai hind!" |
| 16:33.05 | Niharika | :D |
| 16:33.07 | Palash | :D ! |
| 16:33.09 | sumanah | has watched a few Bollywood movies |
| 16:33.23 | Niharika | Nice. |
| 16:33.28 | purplex | Raising hand for hindi and Bollywood movies. |
| 16:33.47 | Palash | still prefers hollywood |
| 16:33.58 | sumanah | Did the "Three Idiots" movie reflect your experience? Maybe we need to get an indie movie made about Indian GSoC students :) |
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| 16:34.12 | Palash | sumanah : actually !!! |
| 16:34.15 | sumanah | read the book "Five Point Someone" I think |
| 16:34.46 | Palash | sumanah : that has to be there next year in the gsoc introduction !! |
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| 16:35.02 | sumanah | Go ahead and do it then :) |
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| 16:35.14 | Palash | feels that if he is selected, he might make a short flick :D |
| 16:35.19 | sumanah | it's easier than it's ever been to make a movie yourself |
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| 16:37.10 | Palash | is thirsty |
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| 17:03.53 | yatharth01 | sumanah: How much experience is required in opensource to get selected!? Is there some minimum requirement or history needed? |
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| 17:04.52 | darnir | yatharth01: No experience is required. Although you should display some amount of enthusiasm. |
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| 17:06.57 | yatharth01 | darnir: then how wud an org make selection between two applicants where one has got some experience!!? |
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| 17:08.11 | darnir | Well, usually orgs try to cut down competition for the same project. Either ways, your proposal counts more than any amount of experience. |
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| 17:09.16 | darnir | Orgs will tend to select the student with a better drawn out proposal that looks the most organized as compared to a student who has years of open source contributions, but his/her proposal makes no sense at all |
| 17:10.19 | kblin | I tend to only select students who have talked to me before submitting their application |
| 17:10.43 | kblin | or maybe during submitting their application |
| 17:11.12 | kblin | but if the first and last thing I hear from you is the melange notification about an application, you're not going to get selected |
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| 17:12.07 | PulkoMandy | I agree with kblin, the important skill in open source is communication - show you have that, and everything should be fine |
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| 17:17.04 | yatharth01 | darnir: kblin: thnks a lot for your guidance :) |
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| 18:09.40 | Pessimist | Hello, I have a couple of questions: what if I fail to do my project, are there any repercussions? Does it cost anything to enrol? Is there a list of what countries students are (aren't) allowed to enrol? |
| 18:10.13 | DaSpirit | If you fail, you won't get your money. |
| 18:11.29 | thiago | yes, no, yes |
| 18:12.16 | thiago | the list of countries is in the FAQ |
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| 18:14.22 | kfogel | is away: Speaking truth to power, for a princely fee. |
| 18:15.21 | thiago | kfogel: please turn off your auto-away script |
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| 18:19.07 | Pessimist | What is the point of Google to throw so many money on free software development? |
| 18:19.33 | Pessimist | much* |
| 18:19.40 | DaSpirit | They have extra money that they don't know what to do with ;) |
| 18:19.58 | PulkoMandy | Google uses a lot of open source software in what they do |
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| 18:20.16 | derdon | Pessimist: if you do a goob job, google knows someone who can do a good job ... |
| 18:20.25 | PulkoMandy | so, they try to keep the open source community alive and running |
| 18:20.50 | PulkoMandy | also, this makes all open source people love google a little more :) |
| 18:21.05 | tierra | also, ever hear of philanthropy? |
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| 19:32.42 | djvdm123 | the mailing list URL for http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/grameenfoundation is broken, I get a 404 page |
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| 19:34.10 | gevaerts | djvdm123: looks like you can contact them on irc in #motech |
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| 19:34.21 | gevaerts | The irc url also isn't entirely right |
| 19:34.26 | djvdm123 | no one's online |
| 19:34.48 | djvdm123 | yes, but i was able to connect to their IRC however |
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| 19:35.11 | gevaerts | Anyway, asking google about motech-dev@googlegroups.com provides some hints |
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| 19:38.27 | djvdm123 | Its a closed group |
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| 19:38.38 | djvdm123 | I have asked to join, but not sure how long that will take |
| 19:38.55 | djvdm123 | all other discussion groups are open to public, atleast for viewing |
| 19:39.17 | gevaerts | Many are, yes |
| 19:39.25 | gevaerts | Not all though |
| 19:40.19 | PulkoMandy | maybe look for another org in case they never answer |
| 19:40.51 | djvdm123 | I also found this JIRA site https://applab.atlassian.net/browse/MOTECH-609 |
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| 19:41.06 | djvdm123 | but no place to Register, how can I login? |
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| 19:50.03 | dom96 | Anyone know if there is an IRC channel for https://www.calltocode.ie/ ? |
| 19:50.25 | dom96 | (or any other way to contact the people in charge ?) |
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| 19:52.35 | olly | dom96: are they a gsoc org? |
| 19:53.00 | dom96 | No, sorry. This isn't gsoc related. It seems to be a Google competition. |
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| 19:53.16 | dom96 | (Which is separate from gsoc) |
| 19:53.17 | olly | this isn't a general google helpdesk |
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| 19:55.59 | dom96 | olly: True. Apologies. |
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| 20:01.46 | carols | serves some coffee and tea |
| 20:01.56 | TCD | Evening, carols. :p |
| 20:02.05 | carols | hi TCD |
| 20:02.21 | downey | will take a cup |
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| 20:02.59 | TCD | GSoc applications just /had/ to be around the time our uni decides to drop a bunch of work on us, heh |
| 20:03.07 | carols | :-) |
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| 20:04.51 | umccullough | guessing this is a popular issue, but what's the suggested response when students request a role connection to the organization? |
| 20:05.11 | downey | "no"? ;) |
| 20:05.26 | umccullough | i've been just notifying them that it's for mentors, and pointing them to our student page |
| 20:05.34 | carols | umccullough: what downey said |
| 20:05.41 | umccullough | i assume those 'messages' actually go back to the indivual |
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| 20:12.45 | downey | umccullough: just got some spam there myself |
| 20:12.48 | downey | I am writing to express my intrest in the "Google Summer of code 2014" with Most Desirable Organization. Currently I am pursuing B. Tech in computer Engineering at NIT, Surat(India), and I would very much appreciate an opportunity to further my skill in Computer science. Most Desirable Organization has an excellent reputation for its work in Software |
| 20:12.48 | downey | Devlopment, Research and Projects, and I am confident that my academic background, combined with my personal experience, could be beneficial to your work environment. |
| 20:13.15 | olly | downey: is "Most Desirable Organization" literally in the request? |
| 20:13.17 | carols | sigh |
| 20:13.23 | umccullough | yeah, basically i've been getting the same stuff |
| 20:13.25 | downey | Couldn't even bother to write our real org name ;) |
| 20:13.27 | carols | has some tea to console herself |
| 20:13.35 | downey | olly: yep |
| 20:13.36 | umccullough | downey, sounds like the same as one of mine :P |
| 20:13.42 | TCD | carols: What kind of tea? |
| 20:13.49 | olly | starts writing an org app for 2015 for "Most Desirable Organization" |
| 20:13.55 | carols | TCD: chamomile. |
| 20:13.58 | downey | Heh |
| 20:14.00 | TCD | Neat. |
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| 20:14.08 | carols | olly: i really want to see that. |
| 20:14.24 | downey | olly: you'll get lots of applicants |
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| 20:14.26 | carols | it will give my colleagues a great laugh next year when we're in the thick of org review |
| 20:14.46 | umccullough | MDO.org |
| 20:14.51 | umccullough | :) |
| 20:15.12 | meflin_ | perhaps MDO.org should be accepted and given 0 slots :D |
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| 20:15.26 | downey | That should be the melange front company |
| 20:16.16 | austin_laptop | is it not possible for an org admin to delete a connection/mark it as spam? I seem to remember that option last year.. |
| 20:16.29 | carols | austin_laptop: #melange |
| 20:17.09 | austin_laptop | carols, thanks |
| 20:17.14 | carols | yw |
| 20:17.18 | meflin_ | heh I also just got a connect request for MDO :D |
| 20:17.49 | downey | meflin_: congrats |
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| 20:18.59 | umccullough | the MDO club is growing... |
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| 20:19.20 | meflin_ | well I would feel bad if I wasn't MDO ... I mean I would curl up in a ball and wonder what I was doing wrong |
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| 20:19.40 | PulkoMandy | are they spamming the whole org list in case someone accepts them? |
| 20:19.51 | meflin_ | probably |
| 20:20.05 | umccullough | what will they do if someone makes them a mentor? |
| 20:20.08 | umccullough | :D |
| 20:20.17 | meflin_ | tempting to find out ;) |
| 20:20.17 | TCD | Is GSOC pushed in schools in India/S.E. Asia? |
| 20:20.41 | downey | We should create an MDO badge to display on our Melange profiles |
| 20:20.42 | carols | TCD: what do you mean "pushed"? |
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| 20:21.58 | olly | has been MDOed too |
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| 20:22.42 | TCD | carols: Here, the only reason I've actually found anything out about GSOC is from a friend. It hasn't been mentioned at all in our school (be it lectures or our informal tutor meetings)..I was wondering if the large number of other students I've seen applying from India and etc. meant that it was different in schools over there |
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| 20:23.33 | olly | TCD: i think it's promoted between students mostly from what they've told me |
| 20:23.34 | carols | TCD: we rely entirely on word of mouth for all the countries. i would love it if more universities promoted it with their students, but i don't seem to be able to get a lot of traction except for a select few unis :-( |
| 20:23.56 | TCD | olly: Huh, interesting. |
| 20:24.11 | carols | if you have suggestions on how to get more university professors and administrators involved, i'd love to hear it |
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| 20:28.35 | sumanah | olly: as you can see with http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/ProgramPresentations you can use these pre-made slide decks to give an info session in your college |
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| 20:29.21 | sumanah | olly: http://lists.openhatch.org/mailman/listinfo/events/ is a community that helps you organise "intro to open source" events at your campus as well |
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| 20:29.38 | olly | isn't a student |
| 20:29.58 | sumanah | olly: I'm not either, but I've helped run info sessions and intro to open source sessions |
| 20:30.00 | PulkoMandy | I guess I should e-mail my uni teachers about GSoC... when I was there they weren't willing to accept it as an internship however :/ (mainly because of "working from home", I think) |
| 20:30.01 | olly | and my old uni is half a world away |
| 20:30.05 | downey | olly: http://i.imgur.com/LoJp12z.jpg |
| 20:31.00 | TCD | for some reason that reminded me of that new le new meme nice maymay man thing. |
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| 20:33.09 | stqism | Hey carols, is it normal for students to sign up with melange and make a connection with your project out of the blue? |
| 20:33.19 | carols | stqism: my org? |
| 20:33.22 | carols | or you mean generally? |
| 20:33.29 | stqism | carols: Generally |
| 20:33.32 | carols | stqism: yes |
| 20:33.34 | carols | very much so |
| 20:33.39 | carols | students don't understand |
| 20:33.43 | carols | they just click buttons |
| 20:33.51 | carols | hoping one of them will garner $500 |
| 20:33.55 | stqism | That |
| 20:34.28 | Slurpee | carols, is any type of email template or documentation available to send to universities to help teachers promote to students? I know several technology facility at my alumni university, but not sure what info to provide them... |
| 20:34.31 | stqism | That is so weird, his response looks like he pasted it everywhere. Calls us "Most Desirable Organization" |
| 20:34.35 | TCD | Never underestimate how lazy people can be. I've got notices on things I have listed saying 'if you contact me directly about this, I will block all communication'. In a week I had blocked 19 people. :p |
| 20:34.46 | carols | Slurpee: well, there's a flyer with text you can copy. is that what you're looking for? |
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| 20:35.03 | Slurpee | stqism, I received same email and thought same thing about "Most Desirable Organization". |
| 20:35.05 | Slurpee | carols, yes, that works. |
| 20:35.08 | sumanah | https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/GsocFlyers Slurpee |
| 20:35.09 | carols | Slurpee: https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/GsocFlyers |
| 20:35.18 | sumanah | :) |
| 20:35.21 | stqism | Slurpee: So he really did send it to EVERYONE. |
| 20:35.30 | stqism | :) |
| 20:35.30 | Slurpee | stqism, I think so. |
| 20:35.40 | downey | stqism: Welcome to the club. http://i.imgur.com/LoJp12z.jpg |
| 20:35.57 | Slurpee | thanks sumanah and carols |
| 20:36.00 | carols | yw |
| 20:36.06 | sumanah | Slurpee: thank you for spreading the word :) |
| 20:36.08 | stqism | downey: Hah :P |
| 20:36.27 | Slurpee | I'll send it out the the universities in my city with tech program.s |
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| 20:36.51 | Slurpee | I'll start with my alumni uni with a special note :) |
| 20:36.58 | carols | Slurpee: thank you! |
| 20:37.00 | rigelk | oh hi sumanah :) |
| 20:37.02 | carols | you are doing a wonderful thing |
| 20:37.14 | Slurpee | turns purple |
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| 20:38.37 | umccullough | stqism, yes, we got the same request for Most Desirable Organization |
| 20:38.59 | umccullough | i think someone should make him a mentor, and then point him to the rules that prevent mentors from also being students :D |
| 20:39.17 | stqism | That isn't a horrible idea |
| 20:39.20 | sumanah | for a null organisation? |
| 20:39.31 | sumanah | hello rigelk! have we met? |
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| 20:42.20 | TCD | umccullough: Say you have a great idea for a project that covers his skillset and just have the page forward to the 'how to write an application' page :p |
| 20:43.07 | olly | umccullough: don't you have to register as a mentor in melange before you try to make connections with orgs? |
| 20:43.19 | Slurpee | I'm curious how much time the student spent contacting all 190 orgs... |
| 20:43.30 | carols | Slurpee: you assume he/she is a student... |
| 20:43.31 | rigelk | sumanah: yes, you've greeted me (either here or on #openhatch) and presented me the mediawiki project as a potential gsoc subject :) |
| 20:43.32 | umccullough | olly, yes, i suppose, although basically that's what these students have done |
| 20:43.40 | umccullough | i have received 3 such requests for connection now :P |
| 20:44.08 | olly | umccullough: I mean it doesn't require anyone to accept him to stop him registering as a student now |
| 20:44.13 | sumanah | rigelk: :) sorry for my forgetting. How is your open source journey going? |
| 20:44.26 | rigelk | sumanah: finally i ended up on #guix and work over there :) |
| 20:44.30 | umccullough | olly, lol, well i guess that will be sweet irony for the student :) |
| 20:44.48 | sumanah | rigelk: :) I hope that's going well? |
| 20:44.53 | olly | he'd have to ask nicely in #melange to get his mentor bit unset |
| 20:44.59 | umccullough | olly, i'm not sure you're officially a mentor, though, until an org has connected to you? |
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| 20:46.42 | rigelk | sumanah: well, i'm still new and the learning curve is steep but that's what i like :) i'm working on a port of doxygen to Guix for the moment. |
| 20:47.00 | sumanah | rigelk: :) I am glad you found something that suits you |
| 20:47.26 | rigelk | sumanah: thx for your explanations about gsoc, it helped :) |
| 20:47.29 | sumanah | rigelk: you may find this interesting http://blog.melchua.com/2013/06/19/hacker-school-session-engineering-learning-styles/ to help you continue to find good ways for *you* to learn |
| 20:47.32 | sumanah | I'm so glad! |
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| 20:49.50 | carols | serves some more coffee and tea |
| 20:50.14 | sumanah | aww, we're having a group hug in the MediaWiki RFC review channel, just before our weekly RFC review :D |
| 20:51.12 | downey | sumanah: Define RFC? :) |
| 20:51.34 | sumanah | downey: oh sorry! https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2014-03-05 We have a Request for Comment process for making big changes to the MediaWiki architecture |
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| 20:51.59 | downey | sumanah: Gotcha. GroupHugs++ |
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| 20:52.27 | rigelk | sumanah: group hug ? sounds good for your karma :) |
| 20:52.40 | sumanah | :) |
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| 20:56.46 | warthog9 | adds a note that apparently he's become an MDO |
| 20:56.51 | warthog9 | sips his tea |
| 20:57.06 | olly | is glad this MDO thing is so inclusive |
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| 20:57.29 | TCD | notes to apply to MDO next year |
| 20:57.45 | rigelk | wonders where to find that MDO thing |
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| 20:58.02 | olly | rigelk: step one, become an org admin |
| 20:58.11 | olly | rigelk: step two, check your connection requests |
| 20:58.53 | downey | warthog9: Congrats |
| 20:58.55 | sumanah | ok, see y'all later! happy hacking |
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| 20:59.24 | warthog9 | it's a genuine pity that mdo.org is taken |
| 20:59.29 | warthog9 | otherwise I'd register it |
| 20:59.33 | umccullough | yes, working on it: https://code.google.com/p/most-desirable-org/ |
| 20:59.39 | downey | warthog9: lots of TLD available ;) |
| 20:59.58 | rigelk | olly: yeah, i've heard abourd those spams x) but is there a #mdo ? :p |
| 20:59.58 | warthog9 | hmmmm true |
| 21:00.05 | rigelk | or something ? :p |
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| 21:01.22 | PulkoMandy | stars the MDO project. just in case |
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| 21:02.18 | umccullough | i assume that people can request to be members of an org here...but i've never used code.google.com :) |
| 21:02.59 | olly | wonders if we can make this the most starred project on google code |
| 21:03.08 | umccullough | pm me your gmail address if you want to be added :D |
| 21:03.14 | umccullough | we'll all be owners! |
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| 21:10.33 | umccullough | created a gsoc2015 wiki page, but i don't have time to work on this for a bit |
| 21:10.53 | downey | umccullough: join us in #mdo for further work on this |
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| 21:11.49 | olly | umccullough: you should ask carols for a deadline extension for this year - the org didn't even exist while the apps were open, so I'm sure she'll be understanding |
| 21:11.59 | carols | what's the question? |
| 21:12.08 | carols | oh |
| 21:12.15 | carols | you're all just being silly :-P |
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| 21:12.22 | carols | in that case, yes, you can have the extension |
| 21:12.28 | olly | carols: oh, sorry to highlight you |
| 21:12.45 | carols | no worries |
| 21:13.05 | kfogel | thiago: (they're not automated -- I actually do "/away" manually. but if they're noise to you, that might be a sign that this is a channel where my away message is not useful to people, in which case I can just avoid auto-joining here) |
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| 21:16.28 | meflin | and mark this MDO is so awesome we get the first extension _ever_ |
| 21:17.21 | downey | meflin: we ARE the most desirable after all |
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| 21:22.53 | rigelk | first human spam seen on #mdo 40minutes after the channel's creation o/ |
| 21:25.05 | downey | human spam? |
| 21:25.57 | downey | rigelk: seems we have our first student already |
| 21:28.19 | rigelk | downey: yeah, that's what i meant :) |
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| 21:30.12 | downey | has trolled hard enough for one day |
| 21:30.25 | downey | time for tea |
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| 21:36.58 | thiago | kfogel: disable the away message |
| 21:37.19 | thiago | kfogel: I suggest you disable it altogether. It's not useful for most people... |
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| 21:38.13 | carols | thiago kfogel: you both want to take this to a PM? |
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| 21:41.27 | warthog9 | and tada MDO now exists |
| 21:41.31 | warthog9 | http://mostdesirable.org |
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| 22:25.18 | kblin | ah, nice, mentor spam |
| 22:25.47 | umccullough | most desirable organization? |
| 22:25.48 | meflin | most desirable org ? |
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| 22:26.31 | kblin | well, I guess everybody got that one |
| 22:26.40 | kblin | but I've got a more targetted one |
| 22:26.41 | umccullough | yeah, MDO is pretty well known |
| 22:26.53 | umccullough | i got 2 more targeted ones as well |
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| 22:29.33 | warthog9 | kblin: clearly you should just send them to MDO project's ideas page: https://code.google.com/p/most-desirable-org/wiki/GSoC2014 |
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| 22:34.45 | kblin | damn, and right in the first year I'm not a student anymore |
| 22:35.25 | tierra | heh, was just looking at that MDO... |
| 22:35.49 | tierra | obviously mass spam then |
| 22:37.25 | meflin | just couldn't find the link since we are on an org acceptance extension -> http://mostdesirable.org |
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| 22:52.34 | rlyshw | so i see codejam starts the day after soc apps open |
| 22:52.52 | rlyshw | anyone participating in that? |
| 22:53.04 | downey | rlyshw: whose code jam |
| 22:53.18 | rlyshw | google's |
| 22:54.05 | downey | rlyshw: i see |
| 22:58.09 | TheCommieDuck | There's the 7DRL starting this weekend too :p |
| 22:59.59 | rigelk | TheCommieDuck: 7DRL ? |
| 23:00.14 | TheCommieDuck | 7 Day Roguelike Challenge |
| 23:01.39 | rigelk | oh. what is it about ? |
| 23:02.07 | TheCommieDuck | 7 days to write a roguelike game (procedurally generated dungeon crawler, usually); kinda like a longer, less well-known version of ludum dare :P |
| 23:02.30 | TheCommieDuck | if ludumdare is what I think it is |
| 23:02.39 | TheCommieDuck | but anyway, not google-related, heh |
| 23:03.08 | rigelk | hum i see ! is it programmed every year ? |
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| 23:05.57 | TheCommieDuck | I...think so |
| 23:06.15 | rigelk | ok, i'll check that ;) |
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| 23:19.07 | jbisch | i plan to participate in code jam! |
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