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04:52.14yatharth01are the student selections done by now, or yet to be done?
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04:55.28ollyyatharth01: in progress - results are out on 21st
04:57.03yatharth01olly: i know about 21st, just wanted to know about the process status!
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04:57.27ollyit's not final until it's announced
04:58.05ollyi suspect most orgs have at least a hazy idea of the proposals they like and those they don't by now
04:58.26ollybut which will get selected can change as duplicates are resolved
04:58.45ollyand google ask us not to discuss specifics with students
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05:20.57anon123http://google-opensource.blogspot.in/2013/10/google-code-in-2013-and-google-summer.html
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05:22.27anon123is pt no. 7 true ? all students selected this year will be invited for a summit @ Google MTV ?
05:24.06ollyi think the details are still being worked out
05:24.31ollyone detail that seems certain is it's not going to be at Google HQ (not enough space)
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05:25.48ollyat least i've heard carols say that earlier this year
05:28.23anon123hmm..
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05:29.34anon123shall the students hope for a grand summit somewhere else then ?
05:29.55ollyi think the plan is for the summit to be in a hotel or convention centre somewhere near
05:29.58anon123or a common summit isnt possible anywhere.. for 1300 students
05:30.19ollyit reads to me as if it's *all* past students
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05:30.45anon123and it reads to me that only this years' students
05:30.51ollyeven for 1300, it seems unfeasible they'd be offering to pay for flights for everyone though
05:31.05ollybut i don't have any special info
05:31.29anon123that's the exact reason why i wonder it wouldn't be possible to call all students that participated in past 10 years
05:32.05anon1231300 might not be the number i guess , everyone doesnt complete their project
05:32.31anon123any idea of the stats ? how many projects fail every year?
05:32.34anon123!numapps
05:32.35gsocbotanon123: "numapps" is In 2014, 4420 students submitted 6313 proposals. 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were accepted. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students)
05:34.46ollyanon123: pass rate is high 80s (%)
05:35.50anon123hmm.. anyhow 1000 students -> flight , accom.. too expensive right ?
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05:36.50ollyi have no special info, but you're talking US$1m for that I suspect
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05:37.43anon123that's crazy money!!
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05:39.03ollyi think there's usually US$500 on offer for students to attend an org meetup or conference, but I suspect the take up rate on that isn't particularly high
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05:40.10anon123oh is it ? i wasn't aware of that olly ...
05:40.16anon123is it mentioned somewhere ?
05:40.35ollyit doesn't seem to be publicised very actively
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05:43.09ollyi can't find a mention in the docs, but e.g. http://sourceforge.net/p/inkscape/mailman/message/31840526/
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05:45.32anon123hmm..
05:45.43anon123great
05:46.29anon123i guess specific orgs that want to hold a summit/meet ask google for some financial aid ... and it helps
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05:47.13anon123but google itself hasn't organised a common meet for all org students in all these years..
05:47.24anon123lets see if it happens this yr :)
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06:02.37AshirHello everyone.
06:03.40AshirI just came across gsoc but the registration seem closed.
06:04.04AshirIs it possible to send my application even now?
06:04.18PulkoMandyno
06:04.21PulkoMandytry next year
06:04.46AshirBut the internship starts in May.
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06:07.48PulkoMandysorry. the rules are so made. By now most organization already know which students they will keep
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07:01.00ashmew2!timeline
07:01.00gsocbotashmew2: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014
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08:29.08valoriementor question: is there any way i can coax melange into telling me how many applications I accepted?
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08:54.45ollyvalorie: look at the tab in the org profile which says how many slot you have
08:54.56ollyit also says if that doesn't match the number you accepted
08:58.48valoriethanks, olly!
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12:37.01NiharikaHas anyone else here been pinged by this uxfi guy with weird queries?
12:38.52darnirAlways ignore those who query without permission
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12:43.25NiharikaWise advise. I´ll keep in mind before replying in future.
12:43.46NiharikaThough I know of two other people whom he´s pinged with very weird queries too.
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12:46.44darnirI don't even want to ask what weird queries.
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13:52.56gsocbotVarunAgw: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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13:56.25saurav1992Niharika I have been pinged by him too. Never realised how many others were too.
13:57.08darnirI seem to have been lucky then.
13:57.13saurav1992But yeah darnir's advice is one to follow. :)
13:57.15darnirWell also I haven't been too active off late.
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15:58.40raiaknightis it possible to read the logs here?
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16:05.02raiaknightthis year may students get the email where will be the list of evaluations of students by some "error" ?)
16:05.15raiaknight*students proposals
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16:06.27Niharikaraiaknight: You are not clear.
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16:06.35NiharikaWhat are you asking?
16:07.26raiaknightI mean the case when the students got email with the mentor's opinions about student proposals
16:08.33gevaertsAre you asking if someone will make a mistake?
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16:09.13raiaknightjust asking, it really happens
16:09.47gevaertsWhat sort of answer are you actually expecting?
16:11.34raiaknightI've just wanted to know that maybe someone knows about that something else
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16:12.30Niharikaraiaknight: Can you frame a question?
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16:13.09raiaknightactually, that is interesting information for all the students to understand why they were wrong with their proposal
16:13.37raiaknightoh, i'm sry for offtop
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16:15.19PlkMndyraiaknight: students can ask the org about this if they want to know
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16:17.21raiaknightyeah, after 21 april it should be the right way if everything won't be cool
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16:24.25raiaknight!logs
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16:48.44NiharikaWhat is the rationale behind forbidding orgs from revealing acceptance to students before April 21?
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16:50.39meflinselection is not finalized until the last moment
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16:56.04veduNiharika: deduplication also takes place
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16:57.09NiharikaThat holds for very few students, I guess. Most of them are either in or out and that´s clear much before April 21, I think.
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16:58.45veduNiharika: many submit more than one application. few submit only one. even if one org rejects someone else might select
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17:01.23NiharikaI see. I don´t believe more proposals equal better chances of selection, but I guess most people here do.
17:02.00gevaertsDepends :)
17:02.21gevaertsI'd say most first-time students believe it, most mentors and experienced students probably don't
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17:02.48gevaertss/say/guess/
17:04.06veduNiharika: you a student? from India as well?
17:04.26Niharikavedu: Yes and yes.
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17:06.01veduNiharika: that is nice. me too
17:06.20Niharika:)
17:07.03nilspinvedu, most of the junta here probably is :)
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17:45.26mishravikasvedu, which org you've applied for?
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17:48.46fewchaNiharika: which org did you apply in?
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17:51.07fewchaNiharika: oh, cool
17:51.23NiharikaWhat about you, fewcha?
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17:51.36fewchaNiharika: me in KDE
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17:51.54NiharikaGood luck!
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17:52.05fewchaNiharika: thanks, same to you! :)
17:52.27fewchaNiharika: which part of India are you from?
17:52.36Niharikafewcha: Delhi.
17:52.51fewchaNiharika: okay, me from Durgapur
17:53.01NiharikaNIT?
17:53.05nilspinapplied for crystalspace, if anyone cares. :P
17:53.09fewchaNiharika: Yes. you?
17:53.15Niharikabrb
17:53.19fewchanilspin: cool! :)
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17:55.40Niharikafewcha: Not any IIT or NIT.
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17:56.38mishravikassame for me not any IIT or NIT :p
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17:59.28mishravikasnilspin where you from?
17:59.49nilspinmishravikas, Ahmedabad.
17:59.49fewchaNiharika: never mind :)
17:59.58samgtrgood to see so many indians here :D
18:00.13mishravikasme from goa
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18:02.15VarunAgwThere is also a ##gsoc-india channel but no one is active there (atleast in last 30 days)
18:02.47mishravikasVarunAgw: yeah I checked it some days back
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18:04.21vedufewcha: seems like Niharika has quit :(
18:04.35mishravikasVarunAgw: which org?
18:04.43NiharikaI´m here. :P
18:04.46fewchavedu: quit what? :P
18:04.51fewchathere she is.. :)
18:05.09veduhaha. hello. me n fewcha both are from dgp and applying to KDE
18:05.21NiharikaSecond-year?
18:05.29veduno. third
18:05.30fewchaNiharika: nope, 3rd years!
18:05.38veduNiharika: what about yuo
18:06.02VarunAgwmishravikas, WordPress + phpBB
18:06.04NiharikaMe too.
18:06.18nilspinme three. see the pun?
18:06.29vedulol. ya
18:06.41NiharikaIt was punny!
18:07.00VarunAgwis first year student
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18:07.14veduVarunAgw: nice. where did you apply
18:08.14VarunAgwI just said in my last second message.  WordPress + phpBB ;)
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18:08.45mishravikasam first year student as well
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18:09.10nilspinI think we ought to move this to ##gsoc-india
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18:09.46NiharikaI´ll move to bed. Goodnight!
18:10.10vedunight
18:10.27nilspingoodnight. Assignment submission season is on.
18:10.46fewchaNiharika: move well. Good night! :)
18:11.28fewchanilspin: "Assignment submission season" ?
18:11.44gevaertsis still waiting for a group of say Finnish students to start discussing what university they're at, that it's so brilliant that there are so many Finns, and which organisations they applied to
18:12.12nikhatzigevaerts, the same applies for me too (greece) :P
18:12.37nilspingevaerts, two words : population distribution :)
18:13.04gevaertsIt's weird!
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18:13.40nilspinfewcha, submissions start from next week. vivas in the later one. exams from may 19th. Sigh.
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18:14.22gevaertsnow waits for all the Finns to wake up :)
18:14.25gevaertsThere must be some!
18:14.28fewchanilspin: oh. We just had two internship interviews today, and one midsem exam. Along with a departmental freshers party! :P
18:15.04nilspinenvies NITs and IITs
18:15.16manugupt1nilspin: Which college are you from?
18:15.36gevaertsWho cares?
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18:15.42nilspinmanugupt1, a crappy one. :P
18:16.25nilspinso let's discuss our proposals. what is everyone applying for?
18:16.47mishravikasapplied for OSGeo
18:16.49manugupt1is not applying anywhere :)
18:17.14bePolitenilspin: Mozilla
18:17.16bePoliteA project on bugzilla
18:17.25bePolitenilspin: what about you?
18:18.05mishravikasbePolite: a friend of mine is applying for mozilla as well
18:18.19bePolitemishravikas: yep
18:18.24bePoliteMozilla is big
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18:18.27nilspinUm, I'm trying to do this actually in a game engine : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxJacxI4_oE
18:18.31bePolitethey have a lot of projects
18:19.24mishravikasbePolite: yep it is even I contribute to it in the Ateam
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18:19.46bePolitenice mishravikas
18:19.57bePolitedoes not know about the Ateam
18:20.19mishravikasbePolite: automation team #ateam
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18:20.27bePoliteahh nice
18:20.44bePoliteI love mozilla though they have their software unrelated problems, I still love them
18:21.00bePolitemishravikas: why did you not apply?
18:21.21mishravikasbePolite: I wasn't prepared for it well
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18:21.33bePolitemishravikas: Same here
18:21.39bePoliteI planned on applying late
18:21.48bePoliteand I fell sick towards the application deadline
18:21.57bePoliteI managed to scratch something still
18:22.10mishravikasbePolite: my mentor in Ateam is mentoring a gsoc project this year so he suggested me to apply next year
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18:22.25bePoliteBut Even if I don't get accepted, I will still continue to contribute
18:22.30mishravikasbePolite: and I manages to apply for OSGeo the other org I contribute to
18:22.42bePolitewow
18:22.48nilspinbePolite, that's the spirit!
18:22.53bePoliteIt seems you do a lot of Open source contributions
18:23.11mishravikasbePolite: not a lot started last Dec still in my first year
18:23.31bePolitemishravikas: nice
18:23.39bePoliteAre you an undergrad?
18:23.46mishravikasbePolite: yep
18:23.58mishravikasbePolite: what about you?
18:24.06bePolitemishravikas: Same here
18:24.17mishravikasbePolite: which college?
18:24.25bePoliteJust that I hate school more than you do
18:24.33bePoliteUniversity of Buea
18:24.39bePoliteYou wouldn't know it anyway
18:24.45VarunAgwnobody can hate college more than me
18:24.59bePoliteVarunAgw: I'm sure you haven't seen me yet
18:25.22bePolitemishravikas: what about you which college
18:25.51mishravikasbePolite: BITS Pilani
18:25.57mishravikasbePolite: goa campus
18:26.17bePolitemishravikas: Which country?
18:26.36mishravikasbePolite: india
18:26.54bePolitenice
18:27.03mishravikasbePolite: you?
18:27.07bePoliteCameroon
18:27.16bePoliteWest Africa
18:27.20VarunAgwbePolite, And you have seen me yet. I cannot attend even a single class. I feel like prison
18:27.36bePoliteLOl
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18:27.54bePoliteVarunAgw_: You have no Idea
18:28.02mishravikasloves his college for 0% attendance rule
18:28.03bePoliteI go my transcript and My GPA Sucks
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18:28.30bePoliteWe  have a 75% attendance rule
18:28.52bePoliteIts not enforced anyway but most lecturers consider class participation as a majority of their midterms
18:29.06VarunAgw_bePolite, Actually, you have no idea. I am planning of dropping out real soon
18:29.57bePoliteVarunAgw: I will drop out the minute I have money to rent a place for like a year
18:29.59AI0867attendance rules? what are those?
18:30.14bePoliteMy parents will stop sponsoring me If I drop out
18:30.20samgtrmishravikas: you really have 0% attendance rule? thats something i wish for everyday
18:30.27bePoliteSo I will need money to stand on my own
18:30.30gevaertsisn't sure how any of this relates to gsoc at all
18:30.40bePoliteAI0867: Means you must be present for lectures
18:30.45nilspinisn't sure either
18:30.47AI0867yeah, we don't have those
18:30.47mishravikassamgtr: yes I do have BITS Pilani!
18:31.20bePoliteI'm happy I don't have 0% anyway
18:31.32bePoliteIf I had that, I would have surely droped school already
18:31.48samgtrmishravikas: oh, we have a 85% attendance policy :)
18:31.52VarunAgwbePolite, I have argued and convinced to parents to let me drop out. Also, I am able to make some money part time by freelancing
18:32.04mishravikasVarunAgw: ditto!
18:32.06bePoliteVarunAgw: Nice
18:32.17bePoliteFreelancing is difficult where I live
18:32.17gevaertsCan you all take this somewhere else? You're being seriously off-topic
18:32.26VarunAgwmishravikas, How ditto? Are you dropping out too?
18:32.31nilspinagrees
18:32.37bePoliteOkey
18:32.45mishravikasVarunAgw: and as I dont have a CS major I dont feel like graduating anyway
18:32.47bePoliteJust curious
18:33.01mishravikasVarunAgw: yes planning to and earn freelancing!
18:33.05VarunAgwOkay lets join #droppers if anyone interested
18:33.08bePoliteWould you guys prefere seeing the list of people leaving/joining the channel rather?
18:34.06mishravikasVarunAgw: is there really something as #droppers? :p
18:34.16VarunAgwI have just created it
18:34.22VarunAgwYou be able to join it
18:34.29VarunAgwTry /join #droppers
18:34.53VarunAgwmishravikas, Come join use
18:34.56VarunAgw*us
18:35.07mishravikasVarunAgw: yep
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20:00.43VarunAgw!next
20:00.44gsocbotVarunAgw: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
20:01.44VarunAgw!timeline
20:01.46gsocbotVarunAgw: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014
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20:08.03VarunAgw!logs
20:08.04gsocbotVarunAgw: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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20:16.02VarunAgw!patience
20:16.02gsocbotVarunAgw: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful.
20:16.30VarunAgwwow! it exists
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20:40.00vijay13!code
20:40.44vijay13!google
20:40.44gsocbotvijay13: "google" is not the cosmic cash machine
20:40.54vijay13gsocbot: :D
20:41.20d3r1ck.google GSoC
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20:43.10RichieBis wondering if there's a comprehensive list of gsocbot factoids somewhere
20:44.09stqism!help
20:44.10gsocbotstqism: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
20:44.12stqism!factoids
20:44.13gsocbotstqism: "factoids" is To see all factoids, /msg gsocbot factoids search #gsoc *
20:44.21stqismRichieB: ^
20:44.22stqismTIL
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20:45.35olly_stqism: that doesn't work, there are too many
20:45.44olly_you have to do it for e.g. a*
20:46.03stqismolly_: At that rate I'll just use my bot to query that bot
20:46.10olly_it used to work, but people keep adding "funny" factoids
20:46.16olly_sadly it rate limits you too
20:46.35stqismI'll throw in a sleep, add entries, and dump it to pastebin
20:47.17gevaertsPeople can change then faster than you can get them
20:47.44stqismThat is absurd!
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20:49.09RichieBstqism , olly , gavaerts : thanks !
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20:50.39olly_stqism: or just talk to kai about getting an exported list...
20:51.00stqismolly_: <gevaerts> People can change then faster than you can get them
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20:51.30olly_I mean a list of what they currently are
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20:58.44gsocbotfewcha_: "amigoodenough" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/
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23:51.04siddharthcan we know number of slots allocated to a particular organization?
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