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03:58.32RichieB!botabuse
03:58.32gsocbotRichieB: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>
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04:53.35Slurpeespectie, hi
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05:12.22fewcha!probability
05:12.36fewcha!odds
05:12.37gsocbotfewcha: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead.
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07:52.48ankush92!next
07:52.49gsocbotankush92: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
07:53.47ankush92Can someone tell me what is "Student acceptance choice deadline" and "Proposal matched deadline"?
07:55.31PulkoMandyorganization internal stuff, the orgs have to decide which students they want, and assign mentors
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07:55.44PulkoMandybut the students don't get the results before the 21
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07:56.38ankush92okay thanks
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07:59.36VarunAgw!logs
07:59.37gsocbotVarunAgw: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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08:03.40VarunAgwIs the list of selected students published on melange?
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08:06.07gsocbotVarunAgw: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014
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10:37.13cezarHello everyone !
10:37.39ekOreoshakeHi cezar
10:38.20cezarIs there anyone that can help me with a problem with the account from which i made my proposal?
10:38.32olly_what's the problem?
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10:40.17cezari had an email address on a private host
10:40.48cezarand after some problems with the host my email address had to be removed and then set up again
10:41.15cezarnow i can no longer access my account on melange and my proposal
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10:41.29olly_cezar: you probably need to ask in #melange for that
10:41.29cezarwhat is to be done in this situation?
10:41.48olly_but be patient, as they can take a while to respond
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10:42.27cezarI sent them an email but I have no response yet
10:42.57olly_how long ago?
10:43.28cezarand I thught I should also ask here to see if i can do anything
10:43.32cezaryesterday
10:43.41olly_i guess i'd give them a bit longer
10:44.00olly_and make sure your org know in case they commented on your proposal and are expecting an answer
10:44.56cezarOk thaks!
10:45.17cezarIs there any problem if i can't have any fix?
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10:46.16cezarI mean i can get now emails from everyone. Therefore I think that it wouldn't be any problem because the response will be given on my email address
10:47.01olly_if your postal address is correct in melange and you're getting emails from it, i don't think there's much you actually need to do in melange now
10:47.47olly_but the melange crew should be able to sort your account out
10:47.48cezarI thought so
10:48.11olly_oh, you'll need to fill in the midterm survey
10:48.18olly_but that's ages away
10:49.36cezarI think that if I am accepted things will be much easier and there will be also more thime for my problem
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10:53.46cezarThank you very much for the help!
10:54.01cezarI will wait for their response
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11:30.49one_more_minute1Just checking: If I comment on my own proposal, the organisation will be notified, right?
11:32.06olly_yes
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11:34.39one_more_minute1Cool, ty
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12:08.24Arthur_D# On branch master
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12:08.36Arthur_D;P
12:08.46fewcha:D
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13:00.33anth_xcan anyone confirm for me that having a proposal with an assigned mentor, but not marked as "accept", won't screw anything up, for dedup or slot allocation?
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13:23.15NiharikaHello.
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13:26.02rajulNiharika, hello!!
13:26.21NiharikaHello, rajul. :)
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13:41.42cbmuserhey, any of the gsoc admins around? I was just trying to join the mentors mailing list which was denied. however, I am actually registered with a different mail address, my Debian mail address and I am actually a mentor
13:41.46cbmuserany idea?
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13:55.27teepee_hey cbmuser :). maybe send mail to carols?
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14:14.51gsocbotkushalk124: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
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14:16.19kushalk124gevaerts, Thanks :)
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14:27.24VarunAgwIs the list of selected students published on melange?
14:28.11tierrait will be, on April 21st
14:28.58gevaerts!timeline | VarunAgw
14:28.58gsocbotVarunAgw: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014
14:29.46VarunAgwtierra, Will the complete list including other students result be published publicily on melange?
14:29.54cbmuserteepee_: done
14:30.37tierraVarunAgw: no, just accepted students are listed, and only the proposal abstract (not the detailed proposal with your contact info)
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14:31.27VarunAgwok thanks
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15:19.38nikswhen will the gsoc results be announced
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15:20.05gopesh21st april see melange
15:20.07nikhatziniks, 21st of april
15:20.13niksokay
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15:22.00lhangeawhat will happen in 2 days and 17 hours ?
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15:23.21kblinorganisations that don't have a mentor matched to every proposal will be yelled at :)
15:23.42kblins/every proposal/every proposal they want to accept/
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15:24.00tachyons1 mentor per one proposal ?
15:24.30tachyons!timeline | niks
15:24.30gsocbotniks: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014
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15:28.06Cadair!next
15:28.08gsocbotCadair: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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15:32.36tachyons!chance
15:32.36gsocbottachyons: "chance" is p, where p + q = 1 and 0 <= q <= 1
15:33.31tachyonshow to reduce q :D
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16:13.12kblinjkridner: hey there. what's the best channel to chat with you about bonescript?
16:13.17jkridnerhi
16:13.19jkridnerhere.
16:13.30jkridneroh... no...
16:13.33jkridner#beagle I mean
16:13.39jkridnerforgot what channel I was on. :)
16:14.07kblinsure, hang on :)
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16:19.27JohanStenbergHi, when do students find out if they have been accepted for any proposals?
16:20.08hammad_21 april
16:20.30JohanStenbergGreat, and if you have submitted to multiple orgs/proposals, does gsoc internally handle collisions?
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16:20.48edsiperJohanStenberg, yes, we have a meeting for that on this Friday
16:21.04JohanStenbergPerfect, thanks for the answers!
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19:20.33Uli-why don't i see "pending acceptance" anymore? has this feature been removed?
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19:27.31terriI’d also like to see “pending acceptance” — has the de-duplication script not run yet?
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19:29.13Uli-it has
19:29.40meflinI spy a dupe so it must have ran
19:29.52aghislachecks too
19:30.46mishravikasUli-: is this feature for students or mentors?
19:30.51terriYeah, I see one too now
19:30.58Uli-mishravikas: org admin
19:31.03Uli-mishravikas: and probably mentors
19:31.13mishravikasUli-: ok thanks
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19:31.19terrialthough I can’t click on teh application for details because melange is giving me a 500, so I guess I’ll check back later.
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19:37.38liorihow would a duplicate look like? proposal's status set to "duplicate"?
19:37.50meflinyep
19:38.09liorithank you
19:38.16VarunAgw!next
19:38.17gsocbotVarunAgw: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
19:38.37gevaertsYes. Still hasn't changed :)
19:38.48VarunAgwIs it possible to speed up the time
19:39.08meflinno we have lots of work to do as admins before then
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19:42.09ManishearthVarunAgw: so deduplication starts tomorrowish
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19:42.48VarunAgwI got disconnected. Did I missed anything. And did my message about space was posted?
19:43.40VarunAgwManishearth, It is already started.
19:43.59VarunAgwyesterday
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19:44.12ManishearthVarunAgw: ah. How many proposals do you have?
19:44.28VarunAgwI am student
19:44.48VarunAgw*a student
19:44.54ManishearthVarunAgw: as a student, yes, you can submit multiple
19:45.03VarunAgwYes, two proposals
19:45.04gevaertssix
19:45.15ManishearthAh, in that case you would have to wait
19:45.38Manishearthotherwise there's a chance that you can just ask the mentor now if you've been selected
19:45.44Manishearthbut i don't recommend doing that
19:45.52gevaertsYou can *ask*
19:46.03gevaertsBut the mentor is not allowed to tell you
19:46.14Manishearthhm, didn't know that
19:46.24VaticanCameosThere's a time and place for everything.
19:46.34VarunAgwis aware of it
19:46.53meflinthat's the time ->  21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC :D
19:47.05VaticanCameosGoogle-Melange is the place :p
19:47.12VarunAgwManishearth, Actually, I was planning to apply for wikimedia earlier. But since my favorite idea got proposals from other more good students than me, I didn't applied ;)
19:47.46Manishearthheh
19:47.56ManishearthI used to do some mediawiki dev ... long ago
19:48.36jouninI thought the results will be out by 18th
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19:48.51jouninStudent acceptance deadline is on 18th
19:49.22gevaertswould never have guessed that the timeline would be *so* difficult to read
19:49.50VarunAgwjounin, There is a meeting on 18th after it all the student will be allocated the same day
19:50.36gevaerts"21 April: 19:00 UTC Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2014 site." -> "Oh, that must mean the results are out around the 15th"
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20:37.58sgdhtare there any issues with a student being the family member of a mentor?
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20:38.33olly_sgdht: there was some discussion of that on the mentor list this year
20:39.20sgdhtwas there any conclusion?
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20:39.51olly_if memory serves, the rules don't outlaw it, but you need to consider how to ensure the student is treated fairly compared to other students
20:40.17meflinand also how you admin will decide ;)
20:40.34olly_certainly the admins ought to know about it
20:41.14olly_i think if I were the admin, I'd try to assign a different mentor, but that's not always possible
20:41.16meflinas an admin if I find out after the fact ... I would be most .. put out
20:41.59sgdhtall the mentors know
20:42.22meflinand the admin's?
20:42.24sgdhtthe admins are not sure if it's allowed
20:43.49gevaertsTell them they should really be on the mentors list :)
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20:46.27olly_you can subscribe an admin to a list, but you can't make them read it
20:48.02olly_so should duplicates show in the proposals list now, and in a way I shouldn't be able to miss?
20:49.03meflinyes there status is duplicate .. in red
20:49.16olly_thanks, seems we're good for now then
20:50.08gevaertsolly_: select some different students. You can get beer from other orgs if you find a duplicate which you then graciously let the other people have
20:50.42olly_good tip
20:51.03olly_am i right to think the duplicate check is a batch job run periodically?
20:51.13meflinyes
20:51.32olly_(perhaps I should have read my email today and found all this out)
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20:53.26olly_heh, no mail about that, but a photo of my nephew still just fitting into a google OSPO tshirt i got him at a mentor summit many years ago
20:53.56meflinmy answer was based on experience ;)
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22:40.09droy!india
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22:41.20olly_droy: do you want ##gsoc-india ?
22:41.47droy!logs
22:41.47gsocbotdroy: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
22:42.39droyolly_ :yes
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22:44.47droyis any of the mentors from BuildmLearn here ?
22:47.06olly_!anyone | droy
22:47.07gsocbotdroy: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014
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22:55.52Turl!next
22:55.53gsocbotTurl: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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