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00:10.56gsocbotgitanshu: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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00:21.17gsocbotmmadia: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
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04:33.32gsocbotMisterA: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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05:24.24amtkhdkr!tea
05:24.24gsocbotamtkhdkr: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
05:29.34bipulamtkhdkr, what kind of tea you drink ?
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05:31.47amtkhdkrbipul en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Island_Iced_Tea‎
05:31.55amtkhdkrtry it
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05:53.05gsocbotcoder46: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
05:53.24coder46!tea
05:53.26gsocbotcoder46: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
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06:03.27gsocbotcoder46: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>
06:03.34coder46ok
06:03.58coder46This is so much fun !!
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06:38.33bipulat 7 AM UTV timing , students name will be listed?
06:38.35bipulUTC*
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06:40.22ekOreoshake19 utc
06:40.33leyyinhttp://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19&min=00&sec=0
06:41.06bipulekOreoshake, Not before that?
06:41.18mihaineacsu_bipul: nop
06:41.23mihaineacsu_about 12 hours to go
06:41.39ekOreoshakenope, the accepted projects list comes only at that time
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10:09.42andreimacHi ! Anyone knows if mentors won't check proposal updates anymore ?
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10:10.57gsocbotmapyth: "google" is not the cosmic cash machine
10:11.02varunagwOrganisation have finished choosing students. So, it does not effect anything
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10:11.08varunagwcash machine lol
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10:11.15mihaineacsu_andreimac: what do you mean by that? the decisions have already been made
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11:02.33kushalk124!appstat
11:02.34gsocbotkushalk124: "appstat" is see !numapps
11:02.46kushalk124!allocations
11:02.47gsocbotkushalk124: "allocations" is The number of slots allocated to each organization isn't public. The organization may however at their discretion reveal this to you if you ask nicely.
11:02.47PirosB3Hi all! how can I see if my proposal has been approved? thanks
11:03.05kushalk124PirosB3, Results would be declared in next 8hrs
11:03.11kushalk124You have to wait till then :)
11:03.14gopesh_PirosB3: you will get a mail from melange
11:03.20kushalk124!next | PirosB3
11:03.21gsocbotPirosB3: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
11:03.38gopesh_saying acceptance or rejection of your proposal
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11:04.15PirosB3oh wow
11:04.26PirosB3thanks gopesh_
11:04.36gopesh_your welcome :)
11:04.51PirosB3sorry for the dumb quesion, but isn’t it
11:04.51PirosB311:04 UTC now?
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11:05.19nodemanYes PirosB3
11:05.20neverpanicYes.
11:05.32PirosB3so this means in an hour? :)
11:05.37PirosB3ooh sorry
11:05.43gopesh_nope in 19:00 UTC
11:05.46PirosB3I mistaked it for local time
11:05.47saikrishna<PROTECTED>
11:05.59rvraghav93PirosB3: in about 7 hrs :)
11:06.01PirosB3aaaaah I can’t wait!
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11:06.24rvraghav93*8 I meant !
11:06.45PirosB3ok, we are all bad with timezones! ahah
11:06.45rusnicme neither. :|
11:06.48saikrishna!numapps
11:06.48gsocbotsaikrishna: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
11:06.53amtkhdkrhey,when will the first funding be dispatched? it is $500 i suppose, when can I expect it? *assuming I get accepted*
11:06.58VaticanCameosStill lots of time
11:07.03kushalk124amtkhdkr, 19May
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11:07.33gopesh_amtkhdkr: see timeline in melange
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11:07.48amtkhdkrgopesh_ kushalk124: thanks
11:07.56kushalk124:)
11:07.59gopesh_:)
11:08.00PirosB3gopesh_: but is everything released at that time, or can proposals be approved earlier?
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11:08.24VaticanCameos!timeline | amtkhdkr
11:08.24gsocbotamtkhdkr: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014
11:08.40gopesh_PirosB3: they will announce the results at that time
11:08.44pl8787!next
11:08.45gsocbotpl8787: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
11:08.46neverpanicMails will be sent out starting 19:00 UTC, not before. The orgs aren't allowed to tell you any earlier either.
11:08.46PirosB3ok thanks
11:08.53rusnic7hrs 51mins to go :D
11:08.56neverpanicSo you'll have to wait until at least 19:00 UTC.
11:09.46SHMDHas anyone got option for Editing proposal recently ?
11:09.54gopesh_i got
11:09.56ahliddin_i'm sure i won't be selected, but i still can't wait :D
11:10.03amtkhdkrwhat does "good standing with their communities mean" ? is there some further process to be done after today?
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11:10.08gopesh_and the proposal is still editable
11:10.25VaticanCameosYou're given the option of editing proposals by mentor/admin
11:10.32SHMDgopesh_: Did you ask  your org to turn option for editing proposal ?
11:10.36gopesh_amtkhdkr: yes community bonding period starts from today
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11:10.50SHMDbecause i ddin't ask my org and there was no such option until recently
11:11.00gopesh_SHMD: my mentor did it for me asking me to make some changes
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11:11.16SHMDoh...  i see
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11:11.25gopesh_but he forgot to disable it probably
11:11.34SHMDBut i didn't ask my mentor :p
11:11.54gopesh_SHMD: then you need to contact your mentor
11:12.05SHMDmoreover, it now shows Tax form option under form sections of profile. Are you all getting that ?
11:12.17gopesh_yes
11:12.18SHMDOk gopesh_
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11:12.38kushalk124SHMD, Where ?
11:12.56SHMDin 'My Profile'
11:13.04kushalk124Oh yes.
11:13.14kushalk124I thought in Important documents
11:13.17kushalk124Thanks :)
11:13.26SHMDNo not in important documents
11:13.30SHMD:)
11:13.49SHMDI don't think there was suck option few days ago for Tax Form
11:14.04SHMDsuch*
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11:14.33SHMDanyways, final announcement is few hours away.
11:14.38SHMDBest of Luck :)
11:14.52kushalk124Same to you :)
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11:15.05SHMDThankyou :)
11:16.35rvraghav93kblin: How about a coundown in the channel status ? :D
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11:19.18fewchagopesh_: Isn't it written "No form required at this time." in Tax Form right now?
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11:21.25saikrishna!allocations
11:21.25gsocbotsaikrishna: "allocations" is The number of slots allocated to each organization isn't public. The organization may however at their discretion reveal this to you if you ask nicely.
11:21.33gopesh_fewcha: yes
11:21.48fewchagopesh_: okay
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11:37.47guest101Hi! do we get a mail form melange stating our acceptance/rejection or do we have to wait till the results get posted on the site?
11:38.06Glorfpretty sure we got a mail
11:38.08VarunAgwyou will get an email too
11:38.14Ivanovicyou will get an email
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11:38.23guest101that is before UTC 7:00
11:38.24guest101?
11:38.35Ivanovicno matter if accepted or recejected, there will be a mail stating the result basically at the same time as the website is updated
11:39.00Ivanovicmight be 5min earlier than on the website, but not significantly earlier
11:39.08guest101oh i see. thanks :)
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11:46.10gitanshu!next
11:46.12gsocbotgitanshu: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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11:48.09droyare the final results out ?
11:48.25mavihsdroy: I guess NO !
11:48.32mavihs7 hours, 11 minutes remaining
11:48.35droyok
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11:51.18NiharikaHello everyone.
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11:51.27darnirHello..
11:51.30droyhi
11:51.37darnirIt's good to be back here. :D
11:53.28mavihsHi Niharika  !
11:54.03NiharikaHi mavihs!
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12:04.09s0014!CAKE
12:04.10gsocbots0014: "CAKE" is (#1) not a lie anymore, 'cause lh got us some., or (#2) verily omnomnom
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12:04.46ananasova:D
12:04.48greyfoxWhat?!
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12:06.28PulkoMandy!forget CAKE
12:06.28gsocbotPulkoMandy: Error: 2 factoids have that key.  Please specify which one to remove, or use * to designate all of them.
12:06.32PulkoMandy!forget CAKE *
12:06.32gsocbotPulkoMandy: The operation succeeded.
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12:07.14darnirDamn, You did it!
12:07.37darnirI ran the command in a query, and it responded no such factoid
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12:07.50PulkoMandysorry :>
12:07.53darnir:D
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12:11.48gsocbotcoder46: "countdown" is Don't start countdown. You will be kicked.
12:11.52coder46lol
12:12.02mavihs:P
12:12.02coder46!panic
12:12.11coder46!patience
12:12.12gsocbotcoder46: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful.
12:12.25coder46aye aye captain !!
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12:23.40cmaloneyHello, quick question: we have two mentors on our project, and were allocated two slots. One of our proposals is marked "pending acceptance", but the other proposal we accepted is still pending
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12:24.12cmaloneyI'm a little confused and hoping we didn't do anything silly.
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12:27.26darnircmaloney: You should speak to carols about this ASAP
12:27.52cmaloneytx
12:28.00darnirShe isn't online right now. Wait till it's working hours on the East coast and she comes online. But I'd suggest you drop her a mail immediately
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12:28.18darnirAlso, just curious, but which org do you represent?
12:28.20cmaloneySending mail. Thank you!
12:28.22cmaloneybookie
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12:29.33darnirHmm. I just asked because of the orgs wasn't present at the dedup meeting and their student got transferred to the other org by default.
12:29.57cmaloneyYeah, we weren't present, so that might have been us
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12:30.13cmaloneybut didn't see our student as a duplicate
12:30.19downeyIf you're not present for the de-duplication meeting, you lose the student/slot
12:30.39teepeecmaloney: duplicates can happen like domino effect when resolving others
12:30.50downey(Unless both orgs aren't present, then, the student is randomly assigned to one of the two orgs)
12:30.52teepeebut I don't remember bookie actually
12:30.59darnirBut I don't think it was bookie that lost it. It's on the logs though
12:31.23raveeshneither do i
12:31.30raveeshi dont think bookie was called
12:31.36downeybookie or booki (floss manuals)?
12:31.43cmaloneyWhere's the location of the logs?
12:31.47downey!logs | cmaloney
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12:31.48raveesh!logs
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12:31.56cmaloneyThanks. :)
12:32.06darnirNo, I just checked, it was Sugar Labs
12:32.07downeygood luck :)
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12:34.07cmaloneyThanks for the help. Email sent and fingers crossed. :)
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12:35.18anoopcsWas it necessary for students to participate in the de-duplication meeting on 18th?
12:35.49darnirNo.
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12:36.18darnirStudents were allowed to idle, but weren't required to
12:36.52anoopcsdarnir: Thanks. I thought I missed it.
12:37.09ishitvaMay I know what these Tax Forms are ?
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12:38.04darnirYou'll get full details about those on the students mailing list if you're selected
12:38.20ishitvaOkay
12:38.57ishitvadarnir: How many slots have been given to Mozilla this time ?
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12:42.36darnirHow would I know? You should ask the mentors for Mozilla.
12:42.42ishitvaOkay
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12:48.16staticbitishitva: all would be revealed in a matter of hours, be patient :)
12:48.34ishitvastaticbit: Yes ! I am so nervous :P
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12:48.59ishitvaCan't wait for 6 hours :P
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12:49.45abhgangwar!patience | ishitva
12:49.45gsocbotishitva: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful.
12:50.17ishitvaabhgangwar: Thank you :) what is GCI ?
12:50.35kushalk124ishitva, Google Code In
12:50.41ishitvaOkay !
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13:38.23Dragooon!next
13:38.24gsocbotDragooon: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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13:40.17gnarulaDragooon: long time!
13:41.33t4nk555!time
13:41.34gsocbott4nk555: "time" is http://xkcd.com/now
13:41.58cmaloney!utc
13:41.58gsocbotcmaloney: "utc" is When developing open source, you'll work with people in time zones all over the world. Check http://goo.gl/wUKjq for current times, including UTC.
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13:42.36t4nk555cmaloney: Thanks!
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13:42.49cmaloneyt4nk555: np
13:43.22cmaloneysad they don't have Detroit, as Detroit has it's own Time Zone. :)
13:43.33cmaloneyAh, wait, they do. :)
13:43.40t4nk555Ya they do :)
13:44.10coder46Do they release all the names at once , or is it a gradual process ?
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13:45.31nodemanI guess each proposal gets an accepted/rejected email
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13:46.33amtkhdkr!tea
13:46.33gsocbotamtkhdkr: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
13:47.03sidthekidi feel like schrodinger's cat
13:47.38mihaineacsu_:))
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13:54.20downeycoder46: It only takes a few minutes for all notification e-mails to be sent.
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13:54.53gsocbotpkp: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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13:59.03lukais three a link where are listed acceppted participants?
13:59.43mihaineacsu_5 hours to go till that happens
14:00.08mihaineacsu_luka: get some tea:), watch a movie...
14:00.34bshahall of sudden all movies are boring.. :D xD
14:01.23lukamihaineacsu_: ok, thanks for the info
14:01.32lukabut it will be online somewhere, right?
14:01.37lukabshah: hehe
14:01.50mihaineacsu_yes, on melange
14:02.11mihaineacsu_and you'll also get email either way accepted/rejected
14:02.16anoopcs!logs
14:02.16gsocbotanoopcs: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
14:02.55vijay13bshah: watch Pirates of Silicon Valley ;-)
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14:04.17PulkoMandysuggest return of the killer tomatoes. This can't be boring :)
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14:09.24downeyChocolate consumption vs. Nobel Prize winners: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlrCHn8CIAE7Apl.jpg
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14:11.52anoopcs!
14:12.18anoopcsSorry !time
14:12.30anoopcs!time
14:12.31gsocbotanoopcs: "time" is http://xkcd.com/now
14:12.45amoghbl1!countdown
14:12.46gsocbotamoghbl1: "countdown" is Don't start countdown. You will be kicked.
14:12.54amoghbl1xD
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14:17.48amtkhdkrI don't understand why send the rejected mail though.. :/
14:18.16electro_amtkhdkr: Did you receive an email already?
14:18.26amtkhdkrno
14:18.33amtkhdkri'm just saying
14:18.53DragooonThey send a rejected mail?
14:18.53electro_amtkhdkr: Okay.
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14:19.06electro_Dragooon: Yes.
14:19.15amtkhdkrits pointless.. the list should be enough to tell u rejected or not
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14:19.19DragooonOjh
14:19.29DragooonCan I reject the rejected mail?
14:19.40bipul! time
14:19.41gsocbotbipul: "time" is http://xkcd.com/now
14:19.54PulkoMandyamtkhdkr: the server is likely to be down because of all the students trying to see the results
14:20.00PulkoMandymail is a bit more likely to get to you
14:20.36bipul! help
14:20.37gsocbotbipul: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
14:21.07bipulso student name is announced now?
14:21.11amtkhdkrPulkoMandy: good point,agreed
14:21.27bipulI don't get any email from google or melenga so i am supposed to be rejected?
14:21.29vijay13howo come google server be down ? millions peopl excess it in fraction of second ;-
14:21.29umccullough!next | bipul
14:21.30gsocbotbipul: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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14:22.18raveeshvijay13, i think melange isn't hosed on all the servers around the world ;)
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14:22.26bipulNop's it not down.
14:22.55raveeshit was down a month ago during proposal deadline too
14:22.55umcculloughcheck back in ~4.5 hours
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14:23.01bipulumccullough, what UTC time is there now?
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14:23.09umcculloughbipul, UTC is UTC
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14:23.27DragooonIt’s about 5 hours away since announcement time
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14:23.35Dragooontill*
14:23.38mihaineacsu_lol
14:23.38vijay13raveesh: actually google has same policy for everything, e.g. it stores single email on more than 35 server across the world
14:23.56somsubhravijay13: The melange site, especially the list page gets slowed down at announcement. Last time I checked my Todos page. That got updated before I could see the list.
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14:24.30electro_Can  I ask the mentoring organization right now if I was selected or not?
14:24.35bipulumccullough, I hope i will get notification that i am selected or not.
14:24.39PulkoMandyyou can ask, but they won't tell
14:24.46Dragooonelectro_: Nah, wait up for a few more hours
14:25.11umcculloughthings can change up to the last minute, so i wouldn't go pissing anyone off :)
14:25.13vijay13somsubhra: but it i am still not able to digest that, google service can go down just because ten thousand people are excessing it at a time
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14:25.37Dragooonvijay13: Why not? It’s not Google servers, it’s google melange servers
14:25.56umcculloughmelange is just another FOSS project
14:25.59DragooonThey don’t need to allocate every server just for a single hour, they’d rather take the hit for a moment and then let things normalise
14:26.06vijay13Dragooon: oh, is it like, its not google server, its gmail server ;-)
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14:26.14Dragooonvijay13: No
14:26.32vijay13oh umccullough makes its clear, thank you :)
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14:26.42Dragooongmail is a core google service which knows it loads
14:26.44vijay13its FOSS project
14:26.44umcculloughif it's not running well, you can always go to #melange
14:26.49electro_umccullough: So you're telling me they haven't made their decision yet?
14:26.55DragooonAccording to the loads melange has enough servers dedicated to it
14:26.59umcculloughelectro_, all i'm saying is the decision can still change
14:27.24umcculloughof course, with everyone DOS'ing the melange site, maybe nobody can change anything
14:27.27electro_umccullough: In their last comment they asked me if I could provide a proof of enrollment, although I already did.
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14:28.12umcculloughi think I may avoid this channel for a few hours, it seems it's going to be filled with impatient people ;)
14:28.14electro_umccullough: I told them I can provide it and didn't receive a reply since.
14:28.39Dragooonumccullough: Mentor?
14:28.45umcculloughyeah
14:28.49Dragooonorg?
14:28.51umcculloughhaiku
14:28.59DragooonI haz selected?
14:29.04umcculloughno clue
14:29.07Dragooon:P
14:29.15DragooonHaha, I didn’t apply to Haiku
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14:29.42VarunAgwDragooon, " > Can I reject the rejected mail?" lol
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14:30.41electro_What are the prospects of getting hired by your mentors after completing GSoC?
14:31.03VarunAgwgetting hired by mentors or organisation?
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14:31.14electro_VarunAgw: Organisation.
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14:31.46Dragooonelectro_: Depends, many FOSS don’t hire employees
14:32.12VarunAgwIt is generally not common  I think but some get hired
14:32.38VarunAgwknows a GSoC student who was later hired by WordPress
14:32.49electro_VarunAgw: Cool.
14:32.52PulkoMandyI am working for Haiku currently
14:33.05electro_But it does have a huge impact on your resume right?
14:33.12Dragooonelectro_: Yeah sure
14:33.38PulkoMandyelectro_: it's up to you to make it have an impact. Even if you don't get hired, working on an open source project is a valuable work experience
14:33.51teepeebut every open source work will look good
14:33.56PulkoMandynot all job interviewer will think of it immediately, however
14:33.59teepeenot just gsoc
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14:34.26electro_Good to know.
14:35.06teepeei'd even rate continuous oss work higher than "just" gsoc
14:35.22PulkoMandyyes
14:35.22VarunAgwWhat should someone call GSoC experince? Internship? FOSS experience? Full time job?
14:35.37teepeebut that's my personal view, which might be different with big companies
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14:36.01mihaineacsu_well it's over the summer, so I'd call it sort of an internship. but it shouldn't stop there
14:36.07ice[9]I like to see GSoC as a fellowship to work on OSS .. :)
14:36.32PulkoMandyI'd count GSoC as an internship, or very similar to it, so yes, definitely continue contributing to the org after (and before?) GSoC and make this a real work experience
14:36.38Arthur_DFellowship of the Software?
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14:36.40bipulteepee, are you mentors?
14:36.52bipulare you one of the mentors?
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14:37.34VarunAgwand in the resume is it advisable to write the name of google or that particular organisation as employer?
14:37.37teepeebipul: yes, and in addition also ceo of a (very small) software company
14:37.42PulkoMandyVarunAgw: both
14:37.55VarunAgwwait..if you have to write only one
14:37.56hornigahoi, cannot wait to see the students list to appear and tell our students! :)
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14:38.10PulkoMandy(and wear your GSoC shirt at the interview, if that's appropritate)
14:38.22bipulwhich organisation ?
14:38.31electro_PulkoMandy: You can do that?
14:38.38teepeebipul: OpenSCAD
14:39.08VarunAgwGoogle sounds catchy to me in resume
14:39.09PulkoMandyVarunAgw: I have something like: "Google Summer of Code - Work on internationalization for the Haiku operating system"
14:39.11amtkhdkrVarunAgw: hold your horses, you'll have to get selected first :)
14:39.27mihaineacsu_everybody's freaking out
14:39.34crucerucalinamtkhdkr:  ^^
14:39.35PulkoMandyelectro_: depends, if the company you interview with welcomes people wearing T-Shirts at job interviews
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14:39.51bipulteepee, nice
14:40.00PulkoMandy(if they reject my application because of that, I probably wouldn't be happy working for them anyway)
14:40.12GentlecatVarunAgw: gsoc is not a google internship, that was discussed a lot before
14:40.21amtkhdkralso remember that not just selection matters, you have to work your ass off for the 90 days and pass both exams.
14:40.23teepeehehe, right, with a isurance company, maybe no t-shirt but more formal clothing :)
14:40.29VarunAgwGentlecat, I missed that discussion
14:41.00bipulI can see it's based on Ubuntu and Kubuntu , I am also one of ubuntu developer if i would know your organisation then i must fill your organisation name.
14:41.13teepeeVarunAgw: actually you are not working for google at all with gsoc
14:41.33VarunAgwyes, technically
14:42.19Arthur_Damtkhdkr: starting to have second thoughts? :P
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14:43.25amtkhdkrArthur_D: i just want everyone to stop drooling over interview prospects right now :p
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14:43.56ice[9]technically you are working FOR an OSS organization, with google supporting your cause... see.. this is why I think of it as a fellowship :)
14:44.29Arthur_DFellowship of the CHA-CHING! $$$$
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14:44.49FrejaValkGrondstoffen op Asylum [1:23:8] (Speler: Dementia) op 04-21 16:40:31
14:44.51FrejaValkMetaal:16.757 Kristal: 10.747
14:44.55FrejaValkow wrong convo :/
14:44.56FrejaValk-.-
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14:50.46VaticanCameosThe actual freaking out will be an hour before the results are declared
14:50.50VaticanCameosThe channel will be flooded
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14:51.42Turl_FrejaValk: playing OGame? :P
14:51.50FrejaValkyes Turl_ :p
14:52.00Turl_VaticanCameos: I can imagine
14:52.19Turl_VaticanCameos: I'll be leaving uni the exact moment they're announced
14:52.28VaticanCameosTurl_: Dayum
14:52.29Turl_I guess I'll have to F5 on my phone :)
14:52.30VarunAgwChannel will be muted..I hope so
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14:52.46VaticanCameosVarunAgw: Won't they put up the list on melange?
14:53.13VarunAgwVaticanCameos, You mean google group?
14:53.27VaticanCameosGoogle-melange
14:53.34dfighterVaticanCameos, they will...
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14:53.43VarunAgwyes
14:53.50VaticanCameosI wasn't aware that they announce on the channel too :o
14:53.55dfighterthey don't...
14:54.05dfighteryou get an email to your registered email address
14:54.13Turl_oh cool
14:54.15dfighter+ all will be on melange
14:54.17dfighterthat's all
14:54.18Turl_no F5 then
14:54.22Turl_unless I don't get it :p
14:54.25PulkoMandyyes people, please just quietly wait for the email
14:54.50Dragooonresults out!
14:54.54VarunAgwlie
14:55.01Dragooonis evil
14:55.18VarunAgwResult is only out if were in duplication
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14:55.25VarunAgwWere you?
14:55.42koderokDragooon: You Are Evil
14:55.49DragooonDunno
14:56.03VarunAgwkoderok, That sound increase heart beat
14:56.10ice[9]i wish the results were declared in the channel.. it would have been like the grammys :D :D
14:56.26DragooonAnd then District 9
14:56.58VarunAgwice[9], Do you want google to post name of 1000's of selcted student here?
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14:57.18ishitvaI am getting so nervous for the results P
14:57.21ishitva:P
14:57.43ice[9]googlebot .. calling up names might be fun..
14:57.50VaticanCameosPassing my time with stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl4njK4LwhI
14:57.57ice[9]don't look at me.. I always have crazy ideas :D
14:58.30mavihsishitva: me too!!! my heartbeats ...!
14:58.32VarunAgwis imaging google administrators pinging each student one by one
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14:58.54ishitvaIf names were to be announced here , it will take quite a lot of time.
14:59.12ishitvaIt is always better to post the list somewhere and let the srudentscheck for themesleves.
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14:59.49dfighteryou don't even need to do that
14:59.57dfighteryou will get an email if you submitted a proposal
15:00.04ishitvaOkay
15:00.23dfighterit will either bear good news or bad news
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15:00.31dfighterhopefully good news :P
15:00.32ishitvaOkay
15:00.38ishitvaYeah :)
15:00.54VarunAgwSome will dance other will cry.
15:00.58sidthekidmy heart's bleeding...like openssl :P
15:01.09ishitvaLol
15:01.12VarunAgwha ha
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15:01.21vijay13there is nothing like failure, either you win or you learn
15:01.31bitgeekyvijay13, ++
15:01.32ishitvasidthekid: Patch it asap !
15:02.07VarunAgw4 hours to go
15:02.09sidthekidishitva: it will be patched at 19:00 UTC :)
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15:02.22ishitvasidthekid: Hopefully :)
15:02.47dfightertonight at 19:00 UTC,
15:02.51dfighterDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
15:02.59VarunAgwDOM
15:03.15vijay133 hours, 56 minutes remaining
15:03.22VarunAgw!countdown
15:03.24gsocbotVarunAgw: "countdown" is Don't start countdown. You will be kicked.
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15:03.29ishitvaTime seems to be an eternity :P
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15:03.44PulkoMandy!patience
15:03.44gsocbotPulkoMandy: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful.
15:03.47dfighterVarunAgw, I don't think you got the reference
15:03.47dfighterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmLDxiI_dgs
15:03.51sidthekidsomething for timepass - http://sidthekidder.github.io/will-i-be-accepted/
15:03.52dfightercheck that vid
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15:03.59VarunAgwishitva, Closing thee IRC client will help passing the time ;)
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15:04.35PulkoMandygo code something helpful, as gsocbot says
15:04.39VarunAgwdfighter, Tonight at 11. Dooom
15:05.00yuricowaiting for gsoc results! it's giving me g-shock!
15:05.05ice[9]gsocbot knows it all :D
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15:05.16yurico!logs
15:05.18gsocbotyurico: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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15:05.23ishitvaVarunAgw: Reading everyone's posts helps me do that better :P
15:05.23yurico!thanks
15:05.23gsocbotyurico: "thanks" is You're welcome!
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15:05.53bshahbetter to leave this channel for today..
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15:06.22ishitva!patience
15:06.24gsocbotishitva: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful.
15:06.38ishitvaThank you gsocbot :P
15:07.06dfightercode a program that tells if P=NP
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15:07.20dfighteryou'd get more moniez than GSOC for that :)
15:07.22mavihslol
15:07.22bitgeekylel
15:07.38ishitva:|
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15:09.27one_more_minute!logs
15:09.29gsocbotone_more_minute: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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15:10.06VaticanCameosPoor gsocbot.
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15:10.21ishitvaHow are IRC bots written ?
15:10.39mavihs!patience  ... I don't have :(
15:11.06ishitva!odds
15:11.06gsocbotishitva: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead.
15:11.44mavihsishitva: have a look at : https://github.com/brosner/bosnobot
15:11.46VaticanCameosAh, but the beauty of it is that chance is everywhere.
15:12.04ishitvamavihs: Thanks !
15:12.11VaticanCameosProject ideas could have priorities; depending on slots and the priority of projects, you still have a chance of not getting selected.
15:12.22VaticanCameosSorry for being a downer tho
15:12.23VaticanCameos;p
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15:13.30ishitvaThats true , but still lets hope for the best :)
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15:13.59mavihsishitva: which org(s) have you applied to ?
15:14.04ishitvaMozilla
15:14.19mavihsbig name ! all the best :)
15:14.25ishitvaThanks !
15:14.31ishitvamavihs: and you ?
15:14.37mavihsowasp !
15:14.47ishitvacool !
15:15.08ishitvaLast year mozilla had 20 slots
15:15.20ishitvaDon't know how much they have got this time :/
15:15.21mavihsnice. owasp had 11 !
15:15.38mavihsDid you speak to your mentor recently ?
15:15.41ishitvaI have heard that Google has offered more slots this time
15:15.50sarwarchow many slots sympy has ?
15:15.50mavihsYeah.. 10% extra :D
15:15.55sarwarc!sympy
15:16.02ishitvamavihs: No he has been on a vacation so didn't get a chance to speak
15:16.13mavihsoh.
15:16.21ishitvaSo how much 10% account to in actual figure ?
15:16.36emaste_10 more orgs and 10% more slots
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15:16.54ishitvaThats great !
15:16.59ishitvaCan Mozilla get 23 slots this time ?
15:17.01mavihsI guess it depends, not all orgs will get equal distribution
15:17.17emaste_looking at the faq, I see 1212 students in 2012 is the highest
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15:17.25ishitvaOkay
15:17.26mavihs!patience | ishitva
15:17.26gsocbotishitva: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful.
15:17.31mavihs:P
15:17.36ishitvamavihs: haha :P
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15:17.45Dragooon!next
15:17.52gsocbotDragooon: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
15:17.53mavihsjust 3.5 hours from now, and you will know how much mozilla got this time :)
15:17.58DragooonNO! NOW!
15:17.58ishitva!thank | mavihs
15:18.07ishitvaYeas :P
15:18.08wzssyqaI have 2 canidicates, both rejcted. is my project cut?
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15:18.59mavihsishitva: where you from ?
15:19.04ishitvaIndia
15:19.12ishitvaand you ?
15:19.12cmaloneywzssyqa: I have a similar situation. Have an email in to carols to clarify.
15:19.34Chad_JoomlaHey I'm having a strange issue. I had all my slots used for student proposals, it appears a student sometime while I was sleeping withdrew their proposal. Now I am trying to replace them. is it too late?
15:19.46mavihsishitva:  India :D
15:19.57VaticanCameosA lot of Indians on gsoc
15:20.02darnirLoads..
15:20.03ishitvamavihs: hi 5 !
15:20.17mavihsYeah ! Hi 5
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15:20.24amtkhdkrthere was a ModiModi on this channel too :P
15:20.26mavihswhich city ?
15:20.30darnir:/
15:20.31mavihslol
15:20.33VaticanCameosamtkhdkr: Seriously?
15:20.39amtkhdkryes VaticanCameos
15:20.40wzssyqacmaloney: is she here
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15:20.49VaticanCameosYou'd think they'd keep election bhakti offilne..
15:20.51VaticanCameosoffline*
15:20.53cmaloneyNot sure. I'm sure email would be preferrec.
15:20.55cmaloneypreferred.
15:21.02ishitvaVaticanCameos: you too an Indian ?
15:21.03ishitva:P
15:21.06VaticanCameosOf course.
15:21.11darnirDidn't think so!
15:21.15mavihsLOL.
15:21.26t4nk555HAHA Indians FTW !
15:21.26VaticanCameosIt's hard to gauge at first, I agree.
15:21.36dfighterI am not an indian
15:21.40ishitva\o/
15:21.50ishitvaVaticanCameos: your nick is such :p
15:21.55Arthur_DIndians! Indians everywhere! Hold on to your scalps :P
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15:22.09darnirwell, there's really not much to do..
15:22.21mavihsLast year maximum selections were from India, I guess.
15:22.26darniractually has work. But that's a different story
15:22.30saikrishnaUs
15:22.37VaticanCameosmavihs: Max selections will always be from India, well...because of our population
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15:22.43amtkhdkrexactly
15:22.44ishitva+1
15:22.58t4nk555thinks this is going towards a fight !
15:23.05mavihsI agree :)
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15:23.10ishitvaAnd also because of number of engineers produced every year :P
15:23.14sidthekidwhy doesn't china participate as much then
15:23.39amtkhdkrbecause they're not India sidthekid :)
15:23.40Chad_Joomla@kblin - is there anything that can be done about a last minute student who withdrew?
15:23.47saikrishnaBecause it is organized by google:P
15:24.08sinhayashsidthekid, you from China?
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15:24.35VaticanCameossidthekid: Probably because of US-China relations?
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15:24.51VaticanCameosOh wait, that's North Korea.
15:24.53downeyChad_Joomla: AFAIK the selections are locked in already
15:25.33sidthekidsinhayash: i'm going to take a very big treat from you tonight...ANC
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15:25.41Chad_Joomla@downey We had backups in case of this. any reason that my slot didn't go to a backup? Why could they withdrawl without any opportunity for us to fill their spot
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15:26.07downeyChad_Joomla: Was that proposal flagged as "Accept proposal"?
15:26.46Chad_Joomla@downey - the one that withdrew was flagged as accept, the one that was backup was left as pending
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15:27.46downeyChad_Joomla: Yeah, the only ones that would have been marked as accepted are those with that flag -- it's the only item used to accept or reject.
15:28.01Chad_Joomla@downey I set it to accept now but it shows as rejected
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15:28.14Chad_JoomlaI didn't think I could accept more than my slot allocation so I left it as pending
15:28.15downeyChad_Joomla: Right, that queue was run some time back
15:29.06downeyChad_Joomla: I've seen some students drop out before the start date, and afaik there's really no contingency for selecting alternate students, but Google would have the final say :)
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15:30.03Chad_JoomlaI was hoping pre-announcements a replacement would still be possible
15:30.37Chad_JoomlaIf the student accidentally withdrew is it possible to still continue with them? I have emailed to see if it was accidental
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15:31.03Chad_Joomla@Carols - any ideas for this issue?
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15:31.13carolsChad_Joomla: is this an issue with melange?
15:32.01Chad_JoomlaI'm not sure really. It appears a student in the last few hours withdrew, whether or not they meant to I don't know. I'm trying to fill their slot with another student at this point but any time I set another proposal to accept, it shows as rejected.
15:32.12rajulhey all....i am a student....all of a sudden my dashboard is showing some new things like....my todos...and projects....
15:32.25carolsChad_Joomla: you should speak to the melange developers, i assume
15:32.34carolsrajul: if it’s a problem, melange is your place.
15:32.44carolsor i guess i should say #melange
15:32.56rajuland important documents also showing new stuff...like accepted student information and student payment cards..
15:33.11Chad_JoomlaGotcha, assuming we can figure it out is it too late to get a student in the slot ?
15:33.12rajulis everyone getting the same??
15:33.19rajulcarols: ohh...sure i will ask there!!
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15:33.25carolsChad_Joomla: no, you have until noon.
15:33.45Chad_Joomlawonderful, thanks
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15:34.25Chad_Joomla@carols Is that noon eastern time or west coast? ;)
15:34.38carolsChad_Joomla: that’s 19:00 UTC
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15:34.54carolsas per the timeline, the faqs, the calendar…every darn place i can put it
15:35.12Chad_JoomlaGahh - sorry for asking dumb questions. I'm stressing!
15:35.20d3r1ck_hello carols
15:35.30carolshi d3r1ck_
15:36.04d3r1ck_how are you carols
15:36.06d3r1ck_?
15:36.10carolsd3r1ck_: fine thanks.
15:36.20downey!tea | Chad_Joomla
15:36.20gsocbotChad_Joomla: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
15:36.56Chad_JoomlaLol thanks @downey
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15:38.15raveeshrajul, did you get an answer ?
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15:38.27rajulraveesh: nope
15:38.31d3r1ck_carols: cool, just some few more hours remaining.
15:38.36rajulraveesh: did your dashboard change??
15:38.48carolsd3r1ck_: yep. i’ve been working all weekend, though, so it really doesn’t matter to me :-)
15:38.49raveeshyes
15:39.20rajulraveesh: lets see...results are due....in 3.5 hours...
15:39.25shwetarajul: mine is showing the todos and accepted student info as well
15:39.27downey!tea | carols
15:39.27gsocbotcarols: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
15:39.29raveeshyes, all the best :)
15:39.32rajulraveesh: maybe we will know then...
15:39.34carolsrelax?
15:39.37carolsi am realxed...
15:39.37downeyha
15:39.44rajulraveesh: all the best...
15:39.47carolsjust because i’ve been working doesn’t mean i’m not relaxed..
15:39.47downeycarols: happy selection day :-)
15:39.53carolsdowney: thanks
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15:41.08emaste_is it expected that no orgs/proposals show up for me at the moment? (as a mentor)
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15:41.48cmaloneyemaste_: Check your filters on the proposals dashboard.
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15:42.04emaste_no filters
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15:42.21emaste_"my organizations" has become empty as well
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15:43.09rvraghav93does dashboard change indicate selected ???
15:43.26dfightergetting an email that says you are selected indicates that you are selected
15:43.28dfighternothing else
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15:43.40rajulrvraghav93: is your dashboard showing changes too??
15:44.18carolsemaste_: the place to ask that is #melange
15:44.23rvraghav93rajul: ya :D
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15:44.49rajulrvraghav93: great...then lets hope for the best :D
15:44.52infinitum_rkrvraghav93 : what are the orgs that you applied for?
15:45.23rvraghav93infinitum_rk: PSF / BinPy :)
15:45.48emaste_carols: asked over there, but didn't hear anything; just wanted to make sure I haven't been removed somehow
15:46.08carolsi’m sure everything is fine.
15:46.09emaste_will hang on for a bit
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15:46.53rajulanyone whose dashboard is not showing changes at this time??
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15:46.56carolsemaste_: nathanielmanista can help you in #melange
15:47.02carolsrajul: please ask over in #melange
15:47.32rajataggarwalmine
15:47.38rajulcarols: okay....
15:47.46carolsthanks
15:47.49rajataggarwal@rajul mine
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15:48.29carolsserves some coffee and tea
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15:51.50emaste_thinks students shouldn't read too much into changes; mentors' dashboards seem to be doing strange things too :-)
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15:53.10ishitvaSome changes in my dashboard . Does this imply I have been selected ?
15:53.22dfighter[2014-04-21][17:43:26] <dfighter> getting an email that says you are selected indicates that you are selected
15:53.22dfighter[2014-04-21][17:43:28] <dfighter> nothing else
15:53.28ishitvaOkay
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15:53.59cmaloneyNothing like enjoying the public-performance of production-facing code and many folks waiting eagerly for the results.
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15:55.35sachith500!next
15:55.36gsocbotsachith500: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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15:57.12pchr8I think it would make sense to add "which is N hours M minutes away" to gsocbot's !next
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15:57.41carolspchr8: something i believe you can do yourself if you’re so inclined...
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15:58.09pchr8carols: as in add it to the code or count how much time is left? If it's the first why not
15:58.20carolspchr8: both, i believe.
15:58.33dfighterpchr8, it's also indicated on melange
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15:58.46carolsi’m not a software developer, though, so i have no idea if that’s actually true or not
15:58.46dfighterso you are just a few clicks away from knowing :)
15:58.47pchr8Yes, I track the time left on melange
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15:59.24dfighterpchr8, on the other hand you really should relax, no need to check the time, it will just seem to take longer
15:59.27dfighteryou'll get an email soon
15:59.28neverpanic!botpatches | pchr8
15:59.29gsocbotpchr8: "botpatches" is The sources for gsocbot are at https://github.com/kblin/supybot-gsoc so feel free to fork it and submit patches
15:59.38pchr8But since !next gets used so often, why not add it there I guess. carols, where can I get the plugin's source if you are serous about adding it there?
15:59.42pchr8Oh, awesome
15:59.42chomuwill the organization mail the applicants regarding acceptance or rejection?
15:59.46pchr8Thanks :)
15:59.50carolspchr8: you should ask kblin
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16:00.04dfighterchomu, no, the Melange system will
16:00.15carolspchr8: https://github.com/kblin/supybot-gsoc i think that’s it
16:00.19chomuhmm
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16:01.09neverpanicpchr8: but I think you'll notice the bot factoids plugin that does that really just maps keys to text and doesn't really know that the text contains a date
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16:01.20neverpanicwhich would be a requirement to display the remaining time
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16:01.39bePoliteAny one feeling the heat?
16:01.44kremlin-my heart is beatin
16:01.47kremlin-my hands are shakin
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16:02.02electro_bePolite: Me!
16:02.04infinitum_rkheat ? Im burning :D :p
16:02.06DragooonI
16:02.08DragooonI’m playing
16:02.18dfightertry Valium or something alike
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16:02.31dfighterif nothing else, that will relax you
16:02.34amtkhdkrserves happy pills to all
16:02.48ice[9]_thanks amtkhdkr :)
16:03.06dfighteralso don't take carols' coffee if you are that anxious already :P
16:03.07pchr8neverpanic: yes, I see that. I'll see what can be done a bit later, now calc homework ^^ at least keeps me distracted from gsoc
16:03.07rajulkremlin-: mahn...whats wrong...go see a doctor immediately :P
16:03.43ice[9]_\me loves coffee :D
16:03.48dirkhhcarols: I'm sure there's nothing to worry about that I can't see any proposals anymore in my dashboard and that it says that 0 of my slots were used...?
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16:04.00carolsdirkhh: a question for #melange, not i
16:04.06kremlin-rajul: i'm having stress nightmares
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16:04.07carolsi couldn’t code my way out of a paper bag...
16:04.12dirkhhsorry... switching channels :-)
16:04.18pchr8and kremlin- by the way I feel you about hands shaking. To me it happens always when I'm really really nervous or when just passing through a hard period in life. Meditation then usually helps
16:04.27unitraxxdirkhh: I have the same
16:04.37kremlin-don't worry, i only think it'll last another three hours or so
16:05.11VarunAgw!timeline
16:05.11gsocbotVarunAgw: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014
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16:05.34pchr8kremlin-: by the way, you Russian by chance? :)
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16:06.07neverpanicdirkhh: same for me, and other mentors saw the same earlier, so you're at least not alone.
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16:06.12kremlin-pchr8: i am not, sorry
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16:07.06pchr8kremlin-: oh no problem :)
16:07.33dirkhhthanks neverpanic, unitraxx - this actually helps me feel better
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16:07.51dfighterthat arises an interesting question tho
16:08.06sidthekidpchr8: i would be happy to meditate, except I have an exam tomorrow :(
16:08.12dfighterwould students from Crimea be considered russian or ukrainian by Google?
16:08.19madeti!patient
16:08.22pchr8dfighter: haha very good question
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16:09.36dfightercarols, is there a google policy about this?
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16:10.05carolsdfighter: i don’t know, if it’s really important to you, please email me and i’ll research it. i have much more important things i need to be focued on right now
16:10.28pchr8sidthekid: five minutes will really help, at least for me they always do. http://www.audiodharma.org/talks/audio_player/3279.html is a really good short intro, but if you have time listen to all the six hour-long talks. Really good stuff
16:10.30chomuwat time will the results be announced
16:10.31dfighteroh ok, sorry then carols :)
16:10.40carolspchr8: want to take this to a PM?
16:10.41carolsthanks
16:10.52pchr8carols: yes, sorry :)
16:11.00carolscheers
16:11.55dirkhhneverpanic: unitraxx: in my dashboard when I switched to looking at 'all' instead of 'reviewable' I can see which proposals were accepted - seeing that helped me feel better :-)
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16:12.53VarunAgwHey, Its good to see last year logs for the result announcement day. ;) http://bit.ly/gsoc13result I think we are more chatty this year
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16:13.06neverpanicdirkhh: Oh, yeah, thanks. So it's a classic case of PEBKAC. ;-)
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16:13.09gestalonei am looking into my dashboard and now have 5 elements?
16:13.12gestaloneis this for all people?
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16:13.28carolsgestalone: nathanielmanista can help you in #melange
16:13.30ice[9]_carols what's google's statement on GSoC? is it considered as an internship or fellowship or something else?
16:13.41kremlin-gestalone: i don't see more than 3
16:13.50carolsice[9]_: students are considered student developers paid a stipend
16:13.53SHMDI also see 5
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16:15.45ice[9]_ah !! sometime ago we were just discussing about this ..  everyone had different opinions..
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16:16.04coder46Can I know what this dashboard discussion is all about..?
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16:16.49SHMDprofile also has option of 'Tax Form'
16:17.11kremlin-i feel like that was there before
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16:17.25SHMDi don't think it was there
16:17.27carolspeople are reading meaning into every element of the dashboard :-)
16:17.33carolsi guess they’re very desperate..
16:17.36shekhawatIt was there !
16:17.43cmaloney!tealeaves
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16:17.58cmaloney;)
16:18.08ishitvacarols: yes we are ! GSOC means a lot to us :)
16:18.09shekhawatIndeed, we are :-p
16:18.24carolsishitva: why not just…go code something and wait until the announcement?
16:18.29SHMDHow can one not be desperate as the moments is nearing.. :p
16:18.29SHMDProposal is also now editable which was not few days ago
16:18.34kremlin-my f5 key is going to be put to the test today
16:18.53ishitvacarols: Okay :
16:18.54SHMDCarols: I'm 'coding' something :p
16:18.54ishitva:P
16:19.08cmaloneywonders how many refresh bots get created today.
16:19.16SHMDinfact, have exam of 'Design & Analysis of Algorithms' tomorrow :p
16:19.22carolsyou’ve all waited a month, surely another 3 hours won’t matter?
16:19.38carolsactually, less than 3 hours now
16:19.48psychoneveryone's nervous?
16:19.55mavihscarols: atleast send the emails :)
16:19.59SHMDTrue but it's just some sort of psychological effect on human nature as deadline nears. #nervousness
16:20.01ishitvahaha
16:20.08carolsmavihs: the emails go out at 19:00 UTC
16:20.10shekhawat:D
16:20.11bitgeekycarols, coding today is like working on a production server :P
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16:20.22nikhatzioffers some tea and cookies
16:20.25ice[9]_SHMD simple.. by not over-caring (if that's a word) :P
16:20.30mavihs!tea
16:20.30gsocbotmavihs: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
16:20.41kremlin-i definitely had some terrible stress nightmares this morning
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16:21.08dfighterif it's that bad you really need medication, imo
16:21.12mavihsme too ! Actually it was a good one.
16:21.16SHMDCarols: Is it some melange issue that proposals are now editable ?
16:21.24ice[9]_SHMD prepare for your exams! why are you out here !! you have the perfect opportunity to relax and learn :)
16:21.27carolsSHMD: i don’t know, did you ask in #melange?
16:21.31carolsor file a bug?
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16:22.07carols!logs | aashna
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16:22.12ice[9]_\ME serves honey infused Coffee
16:22.17aashna!logs
16:22.17gsocbotaashna: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
16:22.19VarunAgwEverone wants to take ownership of gsocbot ;)
16:22.21SHMDcarols: I didn't ask in melange - Does proposals become editable for those who are selected atleast that public part of proposal ?
16:22.28kremlin-nooo haha, i get these all the time
16:22.37carolsSHMD: i have no idea…
16:22.42carolsi’m not a student or a mentor..
16:22.51SHMDYes but you are MANAGER ;)
16:22.52VarunAgwSHMD, Does it matter now? Enjoy and have tea
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16:23.23SHMDTrue VarunAgw. I guess i should continue learning Red Black trees :P
16:23.52mavihsSHMD: that's a good idea. Might help you in your GSOC project too !
16:24.32SHMDYeah. I have feeling my instructor would have given a full question on Red Black trees :P
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16:24.55mavihsSHMD: where are you from ?
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16:25.42SHMDPakitan. and you mavihs: ?
16:25.50mavihsIndia :)
16:25.57carolsmavihs: want to take this to a PM?
16:25.59carolsthanks
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16:26.20rahulrrixeWhy everyone is so panicked? Just enjoy :)
16:26.26mavihscarols: sure. sorry !
16:26.35carolsrahulrrixe: a question i ask myself all year long...
16:26.54SHMDCool :)
16:26.54SHMDBest of Luck to everyone :)
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16:27.04crucerucalinwhat does "School name selected from autocomplete" meann in the TODOs list? (btw, didn't see this list until now)
16:27.16carolscrucerucalin: better to ask in #melange
16:27.37rahulrrixecarols : yeah, rejection and acceptance are part of life whatever the result is;
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16:27.44carolsrahulrrixe: indeed.
16:27.48rahulrrixeyou have to move on
16:27.53aciid_!logs
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16:28.41rahulrrixegsocbot is very busy today
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16:28.58aciid_I wonder why :p
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16:32.32carolsserves some more tea and coffee
16:32.51mavihsthanks ! :D
16:33.01samunclecarols, ^^
16:33.47dirkhhgets his own coffee... while carols' coffee is appreciated, the real thing has certain advantages over the virtual version
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16:34.35Cadair!next
16:34.36gsocbotCadair: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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16:39.38sidthekid_just curious, when is countdown started?
16:39.46bretonit already has
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16:39.54carolssidthekid_: it never is in this channel
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16:39.57carolsno countdowns or you will be kicked
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16:40.18carolssidthekid_: if you want to see how long it is until the accepted students announcement, please check out the melange homepage
16:40.24dirkhhphysical abuse is never the answer, carols :-)
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16:40.27carolsthere’s a countdown clock on there
16:40.41carolsdirkhh: i didn’t make the irc terminology...
16:41.07sidthekid_ok, countdown is just a term. I thought it was some feature or something :)
16:41.32dirkhhcarols: I know... I just always hate the use of that particular term :-(
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16:41.57carolsdirkhh: me too
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16:42.42gestalone_how many accepted people are in the program?
16:42.45gestalone_1000?
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16:42.54carolsgestalone_: right now? nonw
16:42.55carolsnone
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16:43.16raianknighthello, the period before 21 April means that all mentors have to keep silence regarding to the students?:) For example, the only possible conversation is about proposal. Is that right?
16:43.18gestalone_will be
16:43.19gestalone_sorri
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16:43.32carolsraianknight: yes, that’s correct
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16:43.49carolsgestalone_: we have no idea until after the announcement.
16:43.50raianknightcarols, thank you
16:44.06gestalone_ok thanks!
16:44.12carolsyw
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16:44.39ice[9]_carols how long before the shipping address is editable?
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16:44.56carolsice[9]_: i dont know. that’s a melange question.
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16:45.46kremlin-this channel certainly got active
16:45.59VarunAgwSounds like eveyone (including me) have pre-declared their result as selected
16:46.01raianknightlet's bet on proposals amount :) This channel looks like a some little crazy thing ;)
16:46.19carolsraianknight: please don’t. have some tea instead.
16:46.26mavihs!tea
16:46.28gsocbotmavihs: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
16:46.47dfighterthat has to be some special tea then :)
16:46.48raianknightyeah, i know) Just no more patience :(
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16:47.09VaticanCameosSo Indians won't get to flaunt GSoc cards
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16:47.12VaticanCameosDamn.
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16:47.34dfighterwhy?
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16:47.39VaticanCameosdfighter: Payoneer
16:47.40ice[9]_well.. coding without borders :D
16:47.41dfighterno card this year?
16:47.42VaticanCameosI think
16:47.56carolsfolks, nothing has been announced yet.
16:48.03carolstake it to a PM if you must
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16:48.10carolsi can also mute the channel if you guys keep it up
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16:48.42karan_if Dashboard doesn't change, does it mean that your project has been rejected ?
16:48.44ace_strikerVaticanCameos: it is an option only .
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16:48.50raianknight!tea
16:48.53gsocbotraianknight: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
16:49.03ace_strikerkaran_: what logic you living with ?
16:49.06ice[9]_karan_ chill.. its nothing!!
16:49.07carolskaran_: you’ll know if your project is accepted or rejected at 19:00 UTC today
16:49.16VaticanCameosace_striker: Payoneer services are not available in India
16:49.25RandomaniacCarols aren't you making yourself mad by being here hours in advance :)
16:49.35carolsRandomaniac: mad?
16:49.39carolsno, why would that be?
16:49.48ice[9]_yes.. kind of a torture on you :D
16:49.53mavihshaha
16:49.55carolsno, not at all..
16:49.57downeycarols is one of the more patient people i know :-)
16:49.57ace_strikerVaticanCameos: ok.. my mistake
16:49.59RandomaniacI'm here because I'm nervous, but the tension is tangible
16:50.08carolstension? i feel no tension...
16:50.17raianknight!patience | Randomaniac
16:50.19gsocbotRandomaniac: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful.
16:50.19mavihsdowney: +1, after going through the emails on mailing list :P
16:50.19VaticanCameosSigh...I would've loved to show off that card tho.
16:50.19RandomaniacGuess it's just inside me then :(
16:50.21sidthekid_carols is like a maternal figure and we are like small kids bouncing around :P
16:50.30mavihs!patience | madeti
16:50.31gsocbotmadeti: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful.
16:50.33ice[9]_carol i bet you did not pitch a proposal here then :D
16:50.50gopesh_i forgot my password of payoneer acc with email id i listed on melange and now i am unable to reset it, shall i change the email id on melange and register as new user on payoneer
16:50.50madeti!countdown | mavihs
16:50.51carolsalright, i’m muting the channel folks. i’ll probably unmute it after the announcement in a couple hours. i hope you all have some tea and code something useful.
16:50.52gsocbotmavihs: "countdown" is Don't start countdown. You will be kicked.
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19:02.47carolshi folks, i’m going to unmute the channel at this point, but please keep in mind that if it gets too noisy in here it will be muted again.
19:02.52*** mode/#gsoc [-m] by carols
19:02.54DragooonYay
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19:03.07RandomaniacCongratulations everyone who got accepted :) Here's a little high five http://tech.mn/files/2012/06/High-Five.png
19:03.18DragooonGod damnit, Payoneer takes $15 for foreign currency bank wires
19:03.20Dragooonis epicly cheap
19:03.22Shaan7carols: and I was wondering why its so quiet :P
19:03.24s1991yaayyy, wooooooo
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19:03.39MisterA:D
19:03.41carolsDragooon: please watch the language or i’ll kick you
19:03.48Dragoooncarols: Sorry
19:03.50udit_sYAY !!
19:03.58panzoneok, i' m in for this year.
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19:04.04cnjIt is out! I'm in
19:04.07charulyayyy...my proposal got accepted :)
19:04.09VarunAgwYay! I got selected. Thanks google! for sponsering my project :)
19:04.14piyushparkashyay!!
19:04.17ishitvaMe too :
19:04.17TheCommieDuck_Wooooo.
19:04.19ishitva:)
19:04.21blake1Just received my rejection notice. 3rd year applying and being rejected, and this time I worked hard on 2 quality proposals instead of one. Still rejected! :(
19:04.22MisterAme too :)
19:04.35MisterAaccepted, i'm so relieved
19:04.41Shaan7blake1: happens man, life ain't quite easy :|
19:04.46pkpAccepted! Yay! :)
19:04.47anujagarwal464_for me its no
19:04.50anujagarwal464_:(
19:04.58CFS-MP3blake1 - my recommendation would be to compare your proposal with an accepted one
19:05.04nilspinI'm in!
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19:05.13rohit-duathank you google
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19:05.29dhanushim in too! :)
19:05.43derdonrohit-dua: thank the org and the people who chose you ;)
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19:05.46unitraxxblake1: for what orgs?
19:05.53stqismcarols: Today is the most heartbreaking day in all of Tox's history, while also one of the best for a couple
19:05.56tachyonshurray
19:06.10saurabhsood91congrats to all accepted students :)
19:06.12jpiriewooooo me too!
19:06.22Shaan7saurabhsood91: mentoring?
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19:06.35kallisti5party hard!
19:06.39saurabhsood91Shaan7: not really. helping the openSUSE team ;)
19:06.44Shaan7saurabhsood91: cool :)
19:06.44rick_h_stqism: +1 so rough
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19:06.56saurabhsood91Shaan7: KDE got 42 i see ;)
19:06.59thedarki+1 congrats!
19:07.00s1991!next
19:07.01gsocbots1991: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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19:07.18derdons1991: it's not updated automatically :(
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19:07.29arunmathew88!proposals
19:07.32s1991derdon: ok
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19:07.34stqismrick_h_: It's like so much stress is gone, while at the same time my mentors are all getting messaged sad faces and mentions of poor luck
19:07.43*** topic/#gsoc by carols -> Students for GSoC 2014 have been announced: http://goo.gl/qjlV7A | The Google Summer of Code 2014 mentoring orgs list is at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC
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19:07.47blake1I'm not even mad about being rejected 3rd time this year, I'm just mad at myself for thinking I had a chance and contributing a lot of patches and work. Congrats to all those won, sorry for being negative but doing all the work I did made me have false hope of being selected. It's my fault. Goodbye!
19:07.55SeagullHehe! Thanks everyone! We will rock!
19:07.57raianknightcongrats to everyone who have passed, have a good summer of code :D, next time i will try do my best :(
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19:08.03nehaljwanitotal number of people selected = ?
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19:08.11Shaan7blake1: well those who contribute do it without GSoC as well, so yeah :)
19:08.17rick_h_stqism: yea, working on my email to the mailing list with thanks and offers to continue to help teach/mentor those not selected, etc.
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19:08.22mishravikasjust got the accepted mail :)
19:08.27rick_h_stqism: but so excited to have our first year here
19:08.28stqismblake1: You wouldn't believe how tough it is to pick students, I really do encourage you to help out even if it isn't with GSoC
19:08.30perepujalA quick note for rejected students: you can still work on open source, just search for orgs with spare mentors that could lend you a hand
19:08.30s1991Niharika: ??
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19:08.52Niharikas1991: I´m in too. :)
19:08.55Dragoooncarols: Should I update my payoneer e-mail as soon as I register or after my account gets approved?
19:08.57raianknight!next
19:08.58gsocbotraianknight: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
19:08.59mancoolgundahey, I got selected for GSoc this time. The Projects link in My Dashboard is showing an empty grid.
19:09.00k-joseph:)
19:09.05s1991Niharika: great congo...
19:09.12carolsDragooon: as soon as you register.
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19:09.17nehaljwanitotal number of selected candidates = ?
19:09.28anujagarwal4641307
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19:09.33Niharikas1991: Thank you!
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19:09.35riphow can I know I am accepted?
19:09.44dfighteryou got an email
19:09.51dfightercheck that
19:09.54automatahow many applicants?
19:10.08droydidnt got selected :\
19:10.12stqism!numapps
19:10.12gsocbotstqism: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
19:10.16TheCommieDuck_I think it was 5000 applicants with 6400 proposals?
19:10.21perepujalrip you got an email per proposal you submited
19:10.28automatastqism, tks
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19:10.32carols!forget next
19:10.33gsocbotcarols: The operation succeeded.
19:10.37carols!learn next as The GSoC Community Bonding Period is now on. Students begin coding on 19 May, 2014
19:10.38gsocbotcarols: "next" is The GSoC Community Bonding Period is now on. Students begin coding on 19 May, 2014
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19:11.03Dragoooncarols: Got it, thanks
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19:11.05ripperepujal: I got nothing...
19:11.09mancoolgundacarols: I got selected for GSoc this time. The Projects link in My Dashboard is showing an empty grid.
19:11.18carolsmancoolgunda: question for #melange, not me..
19:11.34bipulI don't get any email yet :(
19:11.35raianknightWho else applied for first time and did not pass? ;)
19:11.48teepeerip: you can also check the link from the channel topic
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19:12.14perepujalrip; or look for your name at https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2014
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19:13.00ripthank you , I am in.
19:13.10ripbut I did not got the email
19:13.14FrejaValkI did raianknight
19:13.38VaticanCameosI got selected, but another student got selected with the same project idea and different mentors. How does that work?
19:13.48raianknightFrejaValk, good luck then:)
19:13.54perepujalCongrats, 2000-3000 emails take some time to send
19:14.19DragooonCongratulations to all who got selected :D
19:14.21tachyonsVaticanCameos, duplicate work is allowed in gsoc
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19:15.04TheCommieDuck_Is the accepted project list still updating? I got the email, but I'm not seeing my name on the list.
19:15.17perepujalVaticanCameos: maybe they want to explore two different ways  of approaching things?
19:15.22DragooonTheCommieDuck_: It takes a bit to load
19:15.22VaticanCameosAh
19:15.26cnj!numapps
19:15.26gsocbotcnj: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
19:15.34VaticanCameosI get it now, thanks perepujal, tachyons
19:15.44CFS-MP3TheCommieDuck_ make sure you filter by org... (in the org field, the one at the left is the proposal title)
19:15.47TheCommieDuck_Dragooon: Nope, it's coming up under 'TCD' for some reason :P
19:16.00blake1Due to rejection in the last 2 years, I invested more time and put a lot of extra work this year and still got rejected. I'm really upset, even the admins made me think I had a chance, probably to use me as much as they could for all their patches. I will have a hard time finding a job now. I am done with open source.  Sorry again for negativity.
19:16.01jbischcarols: How do we submit the w9?
19:16.02blake1Bye.
19:16.08carolsjbisch: via melange
19:16.17jbischcarols: I don't see where?
19:16.18DragooonTheCommieDuck_: Haha
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19:16.31DragooonTheCommieDuck_: I guess that’s your display name
19:17.07TheCommieDuck_I feel slightly awkward being one of the few using an alias
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19:19.43rharishraianknight: I know that feel bro :)
19:19.54bipulso i am rejected?
19:20.07bipulwhy?
19:20.08carolsjbisch: did you follow the instructions on the Accepted Student info page?
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19:20.26raianknightrharish, i think first time it was useful from the side of writing proposal, for example)
19:20.41rharishyeah, nice experience
19:20.46rharishwhich org btw ?
19:20.52raianknightnext year i'll be prepared :D
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19:21.07raianknightNRNB
19:21.25raianknightNational Resource for Network Biology
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19:21.40Glorfwhere is the accept student info page ?
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19:21.57jbischcarols: Excuse me, I hadn't read it well enough initially.
19:22.01raianknightwhat is your org, rharish?
19:22.01carolsnp
19:22.13rharishI was with KDE
19:22.22raianknightoh, nice org)
19:22.30rharishbetter luck next time mate
19:22.31sachith500|2is there a way to check for stats by university? or will that come later? :)
19:22.37bipulwhere i can ask the reasone for not being accepted to take participation.
19:22.40nyhunor93is there a way to know, why my proposal got rejected?
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19:22.52carolsnyhunor93: yes, you ask the org.
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19:23.00nyhunor93ok, thanks
19:23.05raianknightthis year i started to write proposal too late, i think, that was my fault)
19:23.10catallmanstats come later.
19:23.56sachith500|2cool, thanks :D
19:24.07Valodimwooo just found a congratulatory mail \o/
19:24.10aghislathanks GSoC team for great organisation, and best of luck to all accepted students!
19:24.19bipulBTW org told me i was eligible now they have rejected?
19:24.41raianknightpassed students, remember, we'll be watching for you this summer :D
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19:25.29ripI have not get the email yet, I check the link, My name is on it....is it ok?
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19:28.28Tokththis seems like one of those situations where ytou need experience to get experience.. except you cant get the experience .....without experience
19:28.31downeyhappy GSoC, all :-)
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19:28.58downeyTokth: Most free and open source projects are happy to welcome & guide new contributors throughout the year. :-)
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19:30.18VarunAgwis going to write a blog post explaining how he cracked GSoC selection process
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19:30.43rharishVarunAgw: which organization ?
19:30.49VarunAgwWordPress
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19:31.03abhgangwar!numapps
19:31.03gsocbotabhgangwar: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
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19:33.18bipulhello after the rejection nothing can be done?, I mean can't I choose another organisation.
19:33.34umcculloughbipul, there's always next year
19:33.50asfrenthi, I did not receive the confirmation mail, my email address was wrong. I can find myself on the list on melange, was there any useful info in the email? :D
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19:34.06panzone1,307/4420 it seems
19:34.07teepeeasfrent: check channel topic
19:34.08dfightercarols hi, I have a little problem, may I pm you?
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19:34.28carolsdfighter: no. i am way too busy for that right now. if it’s urgent email, if it’s a melange question contact them
19:34.31TokthIs there any way to tell WHY you werent chosen? Things like bad proposal or you seem to lack sufficient knowledge of the project, would be very helpful to know
19:34.52RandomaniacYou should ask your org :)
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19:35.00dfightercarols it's regarding my payoneer registration, but I guess I'll send you an email then
19:35.03asfrentteepee: I said I can find myself on the list, so I am accepted...
19:35.19asfrentteepee: I was just wondering what does the confirmation email say.
19:35.20bipulfrom past 3 years i am trying. : next year i will be not a university student.
19:35.23carolsdfighter: or contact their tech support
19:35.25downeyTokth: Best idea is to ask the mentor(s) and/or organizations for feedback. Also make sure you have reviewed the GSoC Student Guide e-book for tips. :-)
19:35.31carolsdfighter: it’s quite good and purposefully *not* me
19:35.32teepeeasfrent: ah, sorry, misread. congratulations then :)
19:35.36ashmew2What's the acceptance rate this year?
19:35.46derdonkudos to carols for doing all the hard work again!
19:35.50dfightercarols I was planning on doing that anyways :)
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19:36.30umcculloughbipul, sounds like not much you can do then - i'm wondering if you engaged any projects in between your proposals though, since that would have likely improved your chances immensely
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19:36.45umccullough3 years of trying seems like a lot of opportunity to make an impression
19:36.56derdonwhat is the reason for the switch from citibank to payoneer? just curious
19:37.00stqismumccullough: Sounds like someone tried the same thing
19:37.05Palashwell, thanks to gsoc! i got an excellent opportunity !!
19:37.28RolandUrbanoGl and hf with GSOC to all of you :)
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19:37.34catallmanderdon: always trying to make things better….
19:38.01derdoncatallman: I assume it makes things better :) just curious about *what* will be better
19:38.06bipulI do have mail to the organisation, and i have talk about other projec too but i have never got any feedback
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19:38.42downeycatallman: I'm grateful for the switch for one. :-)
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19:39.50derdonin the registration page, shall we select the first option, i.e. for the prepaid card?
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19:39.55dfightercarols I can't even contact their tech support with my name :D http://www.picbutler.de/bild/305807/201404210000012215vlko.jpg
19:40.02ManishearthSelected :D
19:40.03dfighterderdon, read the FAQ
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19:40.09derdondfighter: ok
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19:40.55brlcadVarunAgw: i'd be interested in what exactly you mean by "cracked", but presumably congratulations regardless
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19:42.08panzonederdon: i think it is up to you if you want the card or a transfert to a persoal bank account.
19:42.27VarunAgwbrlcad, Oh, actually we use the word "cracked" when we are able to pass successfully a competetion
19:42.39VarunAgwAnyway, thanks
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19:43.29brlcadVarunAgw: it's a silly term, but I know what you meant .. I meant I'd be interested in reading that
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19:43.58derdonpanzone: hmm, I think in practive I will get more money using the transfer option then because of lacking withdraw fees
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19:44.28VarunAgwbrlcad, It might be silly but it is quite common here https://www.google.com/search?q=crack+the+iit&oq=crack+the+iit&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.2948j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
19:44.44DragooonI take it the Foreign Certificate Form has to be scanned?
19:45.05r4chi7VarunAgw: well, there's a lot of difference between *cracking* IIT and *cracking* GSoC
19:45.23VarunAgwhow?
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19:46.13r4chi7VarunAgw: because the term cannot be termed Cracking, You don't take coaching for that, you don't prepare night in night out, you don't have to give a 3-hour exam.
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19:46.35Dragooon*9 hour exams
19:46.52derdonDragooon: yes, scanning is the best solution
19:46.58brlcadVarunAgw: I didn't doubt it ... it's a common term in a lot of contexts, where basically "cracking" == "beating" or "winning"
19:46.59VarunAgwnever took that exam
19:47.01Dragooonderdon: Thanks!
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19:47.11r4chi7VarunAgw: doesn't matter
19:47.21r4chi7i agree with brlcad
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19:47.45brlcaddoesn't make it any more appropriate in this context .. there's nothing beaten/won/cracked/hacked .. you put in effort to become a contributing community member
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19:47.57panzonewell, but this isn' t about win or lose. i don' t think luck is the principal thing for get accepted.
19:48.02brlcadthat community says "okay, we want to work with you"
19:48.36brlcadpanzone: right, which is why someone saying they "cracked" the application process is just silly
19:48.40Dragooonpanzone: Luck would only apply here if the mentor clicks your name by mistake :P
19:48.40downeybrlcad is 100% correct. :-)
19:48.56VarunAgwI am bad in english. I will not used this in future. Lets forget that and have some tea and relax
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19:50.06downeybrlcad: Too much focus on competing against other students -- and not enough focus on interacting with our community -- is the #1 reason that our mentors don't select proposals.
19:50.16xenochristVarunAgw: Not really a case of bad english, actually. Just that using the term "cracked" makes it seem like a competition. Which it is not. :)
19:50.30panzonevarunagw: there isn' t any problem, i understand your "cracking" thing and i' m really interest to read your article
19:50.51VarunAgwpanzone, lol cracking the GSoC article
19:51.10stqismVarunAgw: That reminds me, it's blog post time
19:51.28VarunAgwIt is not written yet. I will write it soon
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19:51.46brlcadthat was my original point as well, that I'm interested in reading about your experience
19:51.58brlcadespecially if this isn't your first time applying, but even if it is
19:52.43VarunAgwIts my first tme. :)
19:53.13esornepits my first time :)
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19:53.34Turl_yay :)
19:53.38Turl_congrats everyone
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19:54.36shammi!numapps
19:54.36gsocbotshammi: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
19:54.55prthare there any charges for Payoneer Global Bank Transfer service?
19:55.14catallmanprth: check the FAQ.
19:56.35Turl_payoneer was not used on previous years, was it?
19:56.42TheCommieDuck_They switched, apparently.
19:56.52catallmancorrect
19:57.51Turl_just trying to figure out how would that work
19:58.16Dragooonprth: Check the fact and I’d say read the Payoneer fees for yoru country as well, they vary I think
19:58.32tachyonsI submitted proposal in last year , but rejected
19:58.36Turl_considering the ATM daily withdrawal limit I'd have to go to it like 20-25 times to get the money
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19:59.04tachyonsbut instead of leaving it ,I done some works , so got selected this year :-)
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19:59.33DragooonTurl_: why? The daily withdrawal limit is $2500?
20:00.26TheCommieDuck_Here it's the equivalent of $500
20:00.28Turl_Dragooon: local ATM withdrawal limit was 2kARS last I checked (~250US$)
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20:00.52DragooonTurl_: ARS?
20:00.57dfighterTurl_, last year I didn't even take it off the card, because of the small daily limits
20:01.02dfighterI just used the card to buy stuff
20:01.20DragooonYou can also widthdraw it to your bank account and withdraw by cheque instead
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20:01.37Turl_Dragooon: argentine peso
20:01.43panzoneuh, this is a good question: can i require a card even if i' m in italy ?
20:01.43DragooonAh okay
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20:02.03Turl_dfighter: it's accepted everywhere as any other mastercard right?
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20:02.23dfighterTurl_, last year Google sent us a Visa card
20:02.29dfighterit wasn't thru payoneer
20:02.32dfighterso this is new
20:02.37dfighterbut yes it should be accepted
20:03.17VarunAgwAnybody have a clue what will be they "We are sending out some fun welcome packages soon to all our new students." ?
20:03.20Turl_I guess I'll do that instead of hogging the ATMs and getting eaten by fees
20:03.36dfighterTurl_, don't you have a bank account?
20:03.44Turl_VarunAgw: I guess that's the tshirt and things
20:03.46dfighterif you do with payoneer you can choose the bank transfer...
20:03.55r4chi7VarunAgw: mainly T-shirt and a notepad and a pen
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20:04.04VarunAgwcool
20:04.08panzoneTurl_ things ?
20:04.09r4chi7with google summer of code written over all
20:04.23dfighterthat is if your name doesn't contain special characters
20:04.26dfighterlike a DASH
20:04.32dfighterbecause then you can't even register
20:04.32dfighter:D
20:04.40dfighter( like me )
20:04.52TheCommieDuck_So then I'll have 2 online coding related T shirts? :P
20:04.53Turl_dfighter: I do, but it's a free account, so rather limited
20:05.21dfighterTurl_, what do you mean by rather limited?
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20:05.28dfighteryou have a card attached to it, don't you?
20:05.35dfighterso you can use your money
20:05.37dfighterright?
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20:05.45Turl_dfighter: I need to get a paid account if I'm handling more than X$/mo or something like that
20:05.48neverpanicthe t-shirt won't be in the welcome package.
20:05.54dfighterTurl_, oh I see
20:05.55neverpanicyou only get a shirt if you pass the finals.
20:06.04DragooonMaybe you can use a guardian/parent’s bank account?
20:06.08r4chi7neverpanic: oh, so notepad and pen?
20:06.32DragooonMaybe a new phone?
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20:06.35DragooonChromebook Pixel?
20:06.41dfighterI wouldn't entrust my money in either my parent or lover or anything else
20:06.52dfightermoney can get people to do funny things...
20:06.53neverpanicr4chi7: that was mine in 2011: https://neverpanic.de/blog/2011/05/27/gsoc-welcome-package/
20:06.54system64No more citibank?
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20:07.04neverpanicobviously it changed for this year and won't contain the card.
20:07.05Dragooondfighter: I think having money would be better than not having money :P
20:07.07TheCommieDuck_Maybe the welcome package is them shipping your mentor to your house.
20:07.08system64I thought citi bank was the best in business
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20:07.31panzonedragooon: i don' t think they send a chromebook for 1307 students xD
20:07.36dfightersystem64, not when you want to send your money to your own bank account
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20:07.42Dragooonpanzone: I can dream right?
20:07.54r4chi7neverpanic: the card was cool :D
20:07.58system64dfighter: Yeah, for the better I guess
20:08.19system64Anybody looked into how currency conversion works for bank transfers?
20:08.22panzoneneverpanic: i agree with r4chi7
20:08.27neverpanicr4chi7: Still have it, for precisely that reason, even though it has run out by now.
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20:08.51r4chi7neverpanic: hehe yeah :D
20:08.54Dragooonsystem64: Which country are you in?
20:09.00system64India
20:09.09r4chi7neverpanic: so this year the card will be sent later on?
20:09.25Dragooonsystem64: In that case, you can either withdraw in INR or USD via Payoneer
20:09.34DragooonIn the first case Payoneer converts and then sends you the money
20:09.36neverpanicr4chi7: I understand the payment handling changed for this year, so no, you'll not necessary get a card at all.
20:09.46DragooonIn the second case the bank will automatically convert it for you and then deposit INR in your account
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20:10.02r4chi7neverpanic: that is, if I select a local bank account right? if i select a card then yes?
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20:10.42neverpanicr4chi7: yes, but since this is the first year GSoC uses Payoneer I don't know whether the cards are customized for GSoC
20:10.43hornighi there, is your "proposal list" empty too?
20:10.45Dragooonr4chi7: If you’re in India, it says in FAQ that you’re required to select GBT
20:10.50r4chi7wasn't this year's payment supposed to be $5500? the amounts on the google page add up to 5000 :/
20:10.56catallmanMay I suggest that since accepted students will be sent complete information that people stop guessing? Just sayin….
20:11.04neverpanichornig: that's PEBKAC, let me check what to do, just a sec.
20:11.06hornigI wanted to contact some of them and send a nice email, but there is no item in it
20:11.11system64Dragooon: I know, any idea about how currency conversion works (for INR) ?
20:11.18hornigwhat is pebkac? :D
20:11.24Dragooonsystem64: It takes USD and gives INR :P
20:11.29neverpanicpebkac = problem exists between keyboard and chair.
20:11.37DragooonYou don’t have to do anything, Payoneer has their rates and they sent the money into your account
20:11.39hornigahhhh :)
20:11.50neverpanichornig: change the status dropdown from "review" to "all"
20:11.50r4chi7Droggl: i was wondering about that too
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20:12.08gitanshuCan 2 students be accepted for same project?
20:12.11aghislahornig: "Accepted" works as well
20:12.16system64Dragooon: lol
20:12.16Dragooongitanshu: Yes
20:12.18hornigahh, super! :)
20:12.25r4chi7Droggl: i was wondering about that too
20:12.39crucerucalinr4chi7: Sum up one more time :)
20:12.58r4chi7crucerucalin: oh lol, forgot to add the initial payment :D
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20:13.04gitanshuDragooon: So then they work together on same project?
20:13.17Dragooongitanshu: You’d need to ask your mentors for that
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20:14.13Dragooonsystem64: Basically you’re asking either Payoneer to convert USD for you or your bank
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20:14.33system64Must be some difference
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20:14.47DragooonYeah, banks generally give better rates from what I’ve observed
20:14.48ice[9]_i was really really looking forward to flaunt a nice google citi bank card (indian!! we are pretty cliched about that) :(
20:14.49ilvanyone else from Chile?
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20:15.26gitanshuDragooon:  Ok Thanks! I'll contact them asap
20:15.37Dragooonsystem64: But I’m not sure about Payoneer’s exchange rates
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20:16.02DragooonI am sure about my Bank’s so I prefer to use them, but banks can be picky about receiving USD so if you’re going that route make sure your bank is okay with that
20:16.07system64Dragooon: That's why I asked :)
20:16.14derdonnice! daily cash withdrawal of $2,500 by default
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20:16.57ice[9]_derdon you missed the part where they charge 3.15 per withdraw!!
20:16.59googler42Why is India not awailable in payoneer registration ?
20:17.08derdonand no calling to the bank necessary for activating or anything, I suppose?
20:17.09Dragooongoogler42: It is? I just registered
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20:17.36VarunAgwis curious why everyone is worried about payment rather than enjoying the day (or night)
20:17.48DragooonVarunAgw: Cause swag
20:17.51derdonice[9]_: how often do you need to withdrawal $5000? twice. in two days.
20:17.52ilvsummit is only for mentors?
20:17.59googler42Dragooon: Iceland, indonesia, ireland no India ;(
20:18.03derdonand you oay 6.30 for that, boo
20:18.09derdon*pay
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20:18.15Dragooongoogler42: You’re on the wrong page maybe? Are you registering for card or GBT?
20:18.21DragooonIndians can only register for GBT
20:18.23chrismedwhere should I send the tax form?
20:18.24tachyons!numapps
20:18.24gsocbottachyons: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
20:18.26catallmanVarunAgw: +1
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20:18.32Dragooonchrismed: See My Profile
20:18.35vkmc+1 VarunAgw
20:18.40ice[9]_derdon: well if in india.. the ATMs have limits! :(
20:18.52derdonice[9]_: I'm sorry then :/
20:18.58panzoneVarunAgw: we should enjoy this night, but i had an horrible news this afternoon so i can' t show to much happines xD
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20:19.02Dragooonice[9]_: Not really? I mean they have cahs limits since they can’t hold unlimited cash
20:19.03chrismedDragooon: thank you, I was looking in my dashboard > important documents
20:19.11tachyonsVarunAgw, :D
20:19.21Dragooonice[9]_: But you can use multiple ATMs and withdraw
20:19.30googler42Dragooon: GBT oh okay :)
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20:20.17ice[9]_Dragooon yes, but I doubt if you can withdraw anything more than 50k (INR ~1k USD) in a day/ or even at one go.. but really really not sure..
20:20.18tachyonstoo many indian students here :D
20:20.24Dragooonice[9]_: Sure you can
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20:20.38panzoneoh, just a curiosity: any italian student here ?
20:20.51neverpanicilv: I've heard this years mentor summit will be open to students, but you'll have to cover your travel costs yourself.
20:20.59stqismpanzone: Closest we can do is Ukraine
20:21.01Dragooonice[9]_: Local ATMs here can do up to 60k in single go. I can just use multiple ATMs around and widthraw more if I need more
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20:21.15stqismneverpanic: It's a mentors summit, I doubt that will be true
20:21.18t4nk326was there no duplication check? some students got accepted at 2 organizations.
20:21.30derdonI'm in Hungary now, but only this semester ^^
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20:21.40stqismt4nk326: We had duplication checks, I doubt that
20:22.01VarunAgwCome on guys! Lets stop this. Peoples are getting impression you are here just for money ;)
20:22.09panzonei haven' t seen an italian student in this program yet. it' s just a curiosity
20:22.12ice[9]_oh.. I never tried anything over 20k INR at a go..
20:22.23Dragooonice[9]_: You should! It’s fun
20:22.29t4nk326stqism: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2014/varad/5634387206995968 and http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2014/varad/5766466041282560
20:22.30DragooonEspecially when you’re in a shady corner
20:22.44DragooonVarunAgw: Meh, why not. People are anxious, let them be
20:23.03ice[9]_VarunAgw i was actually here for a fancy google logo'd citibank card :P
20:23.18PulkoMandyVarunAgw: I guess the guys interested in the code are on their org channel instead :)
20:23.31panzonexD that card is really beautiful
20:23.33stqismt4nk326: One moment
20:23.34ice[9]_I am on both actually..  :D
20:23.35VarunAgwOk, keep going. I will not stop anybody. Good luck
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20:23.52derdonthe payoneer card won't have a fancy Google logo? :(
20:23.52panzonePulkoMandy: and the ones that are in both channels like me xD ?
20:24.00neverpanicstqism: read the chatlogs, 2014-04-18, 22:31 GMT+2
20:24.22stqismneverpanic: I was here during the dedupe meeting
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20:24.38stqism!logs
20:24.38gsocbotstqism: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
20:24.45ice[9]_panzone hi5 ! :)
20:25.30panzoneice[9]_: :)
20:26.14stqismcarols: You know, t4nk326 just pointed out a student accepted to 2 orgs. That, or 2 accepted people have the exact same name
20:26.19achalt4nk326: I guess he applied from two different ids.
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20:26.44carolsstqism: that’s definitely something to take up with the melange folks and not VERY BUSY me right now :-)
20:26.53stqismcarols: Sure
20:27.04t4nk326stqism: there's also http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2014/cardinot/5651442522128384 and  http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2014/cardinot/5743114304094208 (both have Tonidrac, can't be a coincidence)
20:27.09carolsi couldn’t fix it even if i wasn’t doing everything right now.
20:27.29brlcadi'd think submitting from two separate id's could be considered grounds for getting kicked out, indistinguishable from trying to game the system
20:27.33stqismt4nk326: Join me in #melange, we'll explain it to the engineers
20:27.46stqismbrlcad: Exactly
20:28.16brlcada shame really, if the student is that good that they didn't even need to do that to get accepted, twice over
20:28.35stqismbrlcad: Well, looks like someone was gaming the system
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20:29.07ice[9]_achal or maybe two people have the same name.. you know the pigeonhole principle !! :)
20:29.20PulkoMandywell, I'd say he would have tried to have more different IDs if it was an attempt to game the system
20:29.22stqismice[9]_: Once? maybe
20:29.24PulkoMandya bit too visible this way
20:30.33PulkoMandyI'd guess they didn't notice it's possible to apply to multiple orgs with the same account or something like that
20:30.41PulkoMandyor they wanted to apply to more than 10 orgs?
20:30.50stqismImagine that
20:30.56achalit is possible that  he "accidentally" applied with two different ids.
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20:31.06stqismachal: They look the same here
20:31.09achalice[9]_ : note username is same
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20:32.14ice[9]_either (s) is really smart and gamed the system or really dumb (and not at all creative) in choosing the username and the name ..
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20:32.56umcculloughor, coding error prevented the duplicate from being detected ;)
20:32.58ilvthanks neverpanic
20:33.16stqismumccullough: Either way, the melange engineers have something to fix :)
20:33.27umcculloughand possibly an org is losing a student
20:33.51stqismI feel bad for the org, they did nothing wrong
20:34.03umcculloughmaybe we'll see that sword fight
20:34.06achaland a deserving candidate got rejected.
20:34.28umcculloughachal, maybe, depend if they had any other good proposals
20:34.30catallmanOr you are all jumping to conclusions instead of doing something useful.
20:34.41umcculloughis there something useful to be doing?
20:34.45umcculloughlooks around
20:34.47stqismcatallman: ^^
20:34.52perepujalcoding?
20:34.53ice[9]_anyone else in OWASP?
20:35.05catallmanGosh - none of you have code - or homework - to do?
20:35.11umcculloughguesses catallman means "be quiet" as useful
20:35.13catallman;-P
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20:36.07ice[9]_looks for homies from OWASP
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20:37.28downeyimagines there are surely bugs in each org's issue tracker waiting to be fixed :-)
20:37.41downey!anyone | ice[9]_
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20:37.58stqismdowney: Our issue trackers are more of discussion threads :(
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20:38.15downeystqism: heh
20:38.16kremlin-nirvana
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20:38.36t4nk326so far i found 4 people with 2 proposals who have been accepted. carols
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20:39.01carolst4nk326: again, this is for melange, not me
20:39.19stqismt4nk326: We'll make an issue on melange's bug tracker
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20:39.32kremlin-i'm so happy i can barely type
20:40.07perepujalMaybe there are also free mentors from rejected orgs(or from orgs with noy enough slots) that would be happy to mentor rejected students
20:40.29VarunAgwkremlin-, but you types so correctly without any typo! Congrats!
20:41.22umcculloughperepujal, we're always happy to "mentor" people, but we can't necessarily pay them to work on a project ;)
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20:42.44t4nk326i wouldn't be surprised if other people got accepted at 2 diff organizations using different names, this really makes me wonder.
20:43.03TheCommieDuck_t4nk326: I can't imagine anyone would be able to pull that off, though.
20:43.26perepujalI mean, working with an org, at the spare time, will increase the chances for the next year
20:44.51stqismTheCommieDuck_: The idea is that they get the first sent money and run, I assume
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20:46.39guest_____carol: There is a duplicacy in the list of accepted student.
20:46.40guest_____https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2014/bhargavgolla/5678397736878080
20:46.49guest_____https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2014/bgolla/5673385510043648
20:47.01guest_____How is this possible?
20:47.04catallmanGuest" send it to the Melange team.
20:47.15catallmanGuest:
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20:47.49stqismguest_____: We know
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20:48.09kakuwhat about those students whose name are listed twice in two different orgs ?
20:48.20stqismguest_____: Apparently we're at at least 4 confirmed dupes
20:48.53t4nk326now we're up to 5 confirmed dupes, if i can be bothered to go through the list again and post it lol.
20:49.02guest_____So, after these duplicates will be handled and then there is a chance for some students more to get selected?
20:49.29kakuguest_____: I don't think so :(
20:49.31stqismguest_____: No
20:49.39t4nk326i'm thinking of pm'ing one of them and having them change my username to there's. gonna pay them some $$$ for the extra slot. ;)
20:49.46t4nk326*their username to mine
20:49.55bipulis it possible gsoc team will going to consider the names again?
20:50.02stqismbipul: No
20:50.12stqismWe'll see that the melange engineers decide to do
20:50.25t4nk326with some social engineering you can.
20:50.43guest_____Otherwise that's wrong. These duplicates should have been handled.
20:51.25t4nk326so if anyone was reading me, i was just joking about trying to get those extra slots. they'll unfortunately go to waste thanks to the de-duplication script not working properly and some people gaming the system.
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20:53.18neverpaniceven worse, mailman might not get a mobile moderation app now :(
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20:53.48neverpanicthat's a project I'd like to get implemented
20:53.57kakuguest_____: you may set up a plan with "bhargav golla". That may work out for you.
20:54.10stqismneverpanic: We have to assume that the double org chosen students planned on taking the first set of payments and running, though you're 100% free to do this outside of GSoC
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20:54.21guest_____Ha hah a. Then i will be in a duplicate list :P
20:55.07kakuguest_____: ask him to change his name to guest_____  :)
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20:57.00kakuWhat if two students have same first and last names ?
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20:57.27guest_____No, his is same. see the description of the project :D
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20:57.30TheCommieDuck_Then, by the power of elimination, they are the same person existing in an entangled quantum state.
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20:57.46TheCommieDuck_As soon as they set to work on one project, the superposition collapses and they become one.
20:58.12guest_____TheCommieDuck_: ha hah aha
20:58.23catallmant4nk326: you don't know that and should stop speculating.
20:58.34kakulooks like TheCommieDuck_ got selected in CERN :)
20:58.55TheCommieDuck_kaku: I wish I could physics. :P
20:59.15t4nk326catallman: like i said, i was joking.
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21:00.31asfrentls
21:00.51kakuasfrent: it's not bash
21:00.59asfrentkaku: sorry :))
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21:01.19asfrenttmux didn't want to switch tabs.
21:01.30kakuasfrent: but you can do grep here
21:02.02bipul_congratulation for those who has been selected, BTW i will never know why i have been rejected
21:02.26TheCommieDuck_bipul_: Ask the org?
21:02.28kakubipul_: how many orgs u appliedd ?
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21:03.06kakuasfrent: use screen next time :)
21:03.31electro_Hey, congratulations to all the selected ones!
21:03.50bipul_kaku sir only one:( BTW i was trying for GNU radio but i have not applied for there project my bad luck.
21:04.03stqismkaku: Nice timing, <@stqism> You know, OpenBSD dropped GNU screen for tmux because screen was unmaintained and suffered from security issues
21:04.40kremlin-hey, openbsd is who i'm going to be working with for my SoC project
21:04.47stqismheh
21:05.39kakukremlin-: so it's ur moral responsibility to take over the maintainance team for screen :)
21:05.49kakuin openbsd
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21:06.28kremlin-kaku: maybe in about thirty years when i'm accomplished enought to maintain openbsd in any aspect :)
21:07.10kakuAm i the only one trolliing here ?
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21:07.25sidthekidfor many rejected applicants: i am rejected too, and I realize that its not the actual rejection / lost $$$ this summer that bothers me but the loss of prestige/bragging rights that hurts most. have fun this summer.!
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21:08.04electro_sidthekid: Hey, better luck next summer :)
21:08.08kakusidthekid: try next year with better contribs
21:08.22kakui got rejected last year, but not this time :)
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21:08.34t4nk326don't worry about rejections, get an actual job that pays better than GSOC. :)
21:08.34electro_kaku: Me too :)
21:08.41perepujalsidthekid: try this year with small project
21:08.47Arthur_Dsidthekid: yes, hope you find motivation to retry next year :)
21:09.41TheCommieDuck_t4nk326: That requires leaving the house!
21:09.42perepujalBTW wasn't KDE run another summer of code?
21:09.49electro_So, who here is excited about getting selected?
21:09.50sidthekidi'll be more than satisfied this summer if I work on something interesting :) thanks everyone, enjoy :)
21:10.04t4nk326TheCommieDuck_: there are remote jobs too. just gotta search! :P
21:10.32electro_t4nk326: Totally agree with you on this.
21:10.58mayorgaHow can I be sure of my university's eligibility?
21:11.14kakumayorga: let google worry for that :)
21:11.35TheCommieDuck_As someone who works a remote 'job', true :P
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21:11.40Manishearthelectro_: Me!
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21:11.44ManishearthCOngrats everyone, btw
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21:12.15electro_Manishearth: Well, congrats :)
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21:13.51kakuin next 3-4 years google may rename gsoc to "indian summer of code" :)
21:14.21diadarakaku:  any stats out ?
21:14.26bipulkaku hehe
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21:14.53kakudiadara: i can find it out from names
21:15.00bipulare you a mentors kaku?
21:15.04kakustudent names
21:15.06TheCommieDuck_I heard 1307 earlier
21:15.07Manishearthcarols: there? Does "based in the united states" apply to US citizens living abroad?
21:15.25electro_kaku: Are there any stats you can share?
21:15.32carolsManishearth: you should email me if this is urgent, otherwise, i’m too busy to answer questions right now
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21:15.47dfighterManishearth, will you be working on US soil, will you be using property on US soil ( like a computer )?
21:15.47Manishearthcarols: alright, no prob. Not urgent, I'll have a closer look at the forms later
21:15.53Manishearthdfighter: no
21:15.54dfighterthis is the test on the form
21:16.00ManishearthBut I do file my (US) taxes regularly
21:16.17dfighterwell I am not a tax advisor, nor am I a US citizen
21:16.25dfighterI just told you the test on the form
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21:18.18kakuelectro_: /quit
21:18.22dfighterManishearth,
21:18.24dfighter"This form requires you to certify that none of your code
21:18.24dfighterdevelopment in this program constituted a “U.S. Activity.”
21:18.24dfighterWhat are “U.S. Activities?”
21:18.24dfighter“U.S. Activities” involve an individual located in the U.S. or owning equipment in the U.S.
21:18.24dfighterthat are involved in any way with revenue earned through the Google Summer of Code 2014
21:18.25dfighterProgram. U.S. Activities include, but are not limited to, performing software development within
21:18.27dfighterthe United States, meaning that either the computer or the developer (or both) is located in the
21:18.29dfighterUnited States."
21:18.30kakuelectro_: sorry typo
21:20.55carolsdfighter Manishearth: want to take this to a PM?
21:21.07Manishearthdoing so :)
21:21.10carolsthanks
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21:29.53bipul_so finally it was mine last chance for GSOC, so finally Good Bye #fail
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21:30.58Valodimdon't fret. plenty of other opportunity out there
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21:34.35t4nk326carols i reported 5 duplicates to #melange, as a reward could you give me one of the extra slots since i didn't get any this year? ;)
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21:35.26gitanshuhow rare is 2 people getting selected for same project?
21:35.28downey...
21:35.37stqismt4nk326: Just because melange said it was up to carols to assign slots doesn't mean she's going to
21:35.52stqismgitanshu: Odds of it happening? 0%
21:36.12downeyt4nk326: Your best odds of participating in GSoC would be by submitting a proposal before the deadline. :-)
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21:36.50stqismdowney: To date, 100% of all GSoC students were chosen because they submitted a proposal before the deadline
21:37.03downeystqism: So I've heard.
21:37.32gitanshustqism: There is another person selected for same project as mine
21:37.53perepujalgitanshu: is really rare as usually orgs tend to optimise their slots, anyway that may happen sometimes
21:37.54stqismgitanshu: Than it's the org choosing it like that
21:38.04neverpanicgitanshu: that's not exactly common, but some orgs do that from time to time.
21:38.15gitanshuAh great!
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21:38.44stqismgitanshu: Remember, 2 students getting the same proposal are 2 separate proposals
21:38.48Ch3ckWell we are excited to have the first female GSoCers from Africa at the University of Buea, Cameroon.
21:39.29Ch3ckis excited about the future of technology in Cameroon
21:39.38perepujalthey may want to eval two different approaches for a problem, or they may want two students work in differents parts of the same project, or...
21:39.57gitanshustqism: Yes, I was just surprised as the org has 5 slots for 9 projects and they took 2 students for 1 project.
21:40.40downeyCh3ck: Congrats ... great representation by West Africa this year. :-)
21:40.52PulkoMandygitanshu: the project doesn't really matter, at least for us
21:41.11PulkoMandywhat we look for is great students with potential for becoming long term contributors to our project
21:41.18t4nk326India has a great representation this year too.
21:41.19PulkoMandy(haiku project here)
21:41.36gitanshuPulkoMandy: that's a perfect explanation :D
21:41.36Ch3ckdowney: yeah We can't be any happier
21:41.49gitanshuBTW Indian here :D
21:42.15Ch3ckdowney: West Africa is on the rise in Tech! let's see what 2015 hold :) :P
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21:42.56stqismCh3ck: You know, that's great to hear. Africa is one of my last thoughts when I think tech, and it's great to hear someones changing that.
21:44.12Ch3ckstqism: You can say that again. last year we had 2 from Cameroon this year the first 2 women from gdgbuea and University of Buea. We can't be any happier :)
21:44.14t4nk326i wish we could see full proposals of each student, just to see what a accepted proposal looks like. all we see is a brief description. whatever happened to transparency!
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21:44.44PulkoMandyt4nk326: you could ask some accepted students if they want to share theirs
21:44.45downeyt4nk326: +1
21:44.46panzonethere is already the stats about the accepted student ?
21:45.07Ch3ckt4nk326: there is more to selection than the proposal
21:45.08neverpanict4nk326: there are plenty of public proposals to be found online.
21:45.13neverpanicI know mine is, for example.
21:45.43stqismCh3ck: +1 proposals were only a small part of our selections
21:45.45neverpanicWe can do it the other way round, though – send me a link to your proposal and I'll tell you whether I would have chosen you ;)
21:45.54panzonemy proposal is public for example
21:46.01PulkoMandyalso, yes, the proposal isn't everything. Students that connect to our IRC channels, talk with people to refine their understanding of the project, submit patches, help on our forums or mailing lists, get bonus points
21:46.20PulkoMandystudents starting to work on their proposal without waiting for gsoc results are very likely to get selected
21:46.32t4nk326i don't think the organizations would remember a student who does all that due to how hectic GSOC can be.
21:46.43PulkoMandydepends on the orgs
21:46.54panzoneand i start to work on it during the first week of february
21:46.57PulkoMandywe got only 12 proposals here
21:46.57neverpanicI think communication is much more important than the proposal. The students that got in touch early, discussed their proposals with us, made improvements, submitted patches are also those we ended up accepting.
21:47.01stqismPulkoMandy: All of our chosen students all did something special, for example, one of them joined our technical standards working group
21:47.48stqismAnother designed an entire functional client around our core library
21:48.00neverpanicYeah, with the big orgs you'd probably have to make a good impression and stand out. With small orgs the competition is usually much smaller.
21:48.06panzoneand with "started to work on it" i mean frequent the mailing lists and irc channels of the orgs i want to apply
21:48.32stqismneverpanic: As a new org, we had 88 proposals and 4 slots. It was /so/ stressful
21:48.59PulkoMandywhen I was a student in 2008 I didn't do much of that and I failed. In 2009 I started designing class diagrams and all that for my project, reviewing the existing code and writing some tests, and I was selected
21:49.28prthstqism: which org do you represent?
21:49.32Ch3ckruns to the GSoC Success party!!!! it's gonna be a Vodka! nyt in Cameroon
21:49.45neverpanicstqism: We're a verteran org and had 6, similar in the last years. But I guess looking for mac users limits the number of applications a lot.
21:49.49stqismprth: Tox, https://tox.im
21:49.53downeyCh3ck: save me a bottle of gintonic
21:50.12stqismneverpanic: Android developers seemed to be everywhere, we had 40 of them alone
21:50.13PulkoMandyand yes, it's hard to gauge the org size. Some small projects with fun ideas or popular languages may end up getting a lot of applications
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21:50.43PulkoMandyif you ask python, android, and other trending stuff, you get a lot of devs
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21:50.48rick_h_yea, we had 32 apps for our two spots. Crazy.
21:51.05rick_h_of which at least 12 or 14 had real patches in during the process.
21:51.08PulkoMandyHaiku being an operating system written in C++, I guess that filters out some candidates already :/
21:51.20neverpanicstqism: That looks like a nice project. Keep up the good work!
21:51.29Ch3ckdowney: i'm gonna save you a crate!! :)
21:51.29panzonexD i quote PulkoMandy. in fact i applied only in compilers project with a lot of low-level programming
21:51.51stqismrick_h_: Our selections sucked, we had 7 ready mentors and proposals good to go but we got 4 slots :(
21:51.56stqismneverpanic: Thanks! :)
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21:52.11t4nk326do mentors have any influence in slot selection?
21:52.24rick_h_we got to request min/max slots
21:52.39stqismWe actually requested 6-12, a crazy number for a new org
21:52.51rick_h_yea, as a new org I thought we'd only get 1 but was glad to get 2
21:52.55downeystqism: so is 4 :-)
21:53.05stqismrick_h_: Glad you got more than you hoped :)
21:53.10stqismdowney: And we're glad
21:53.13neverpanicstqism: So you've got three backup mentors you can throw at students. Those projects *have* to be successful with that amount of mentoring :)
21:53.49panzonewell, anyway, now it begins the most difficult part xD
21:53.55stqismneverpanic: The issue is that our initial selection layout meant that with under 6 slots 1 or more mentors would be unable to help at all
21:54.13rick_h_I dont' know. Keeping up with 10+ students all trying to find things to do and submit patches sure seemed like the hard part
21:54.15stqismneverpanic: Our orgs structure acts like an umbrella for a couple smaller projects using our core library
21:54.16Ch3ckWhy can't orgs sponsor the students' not selected by GSoC for the summer, I know alot got sponsors too right?
21:54.22rick_h_now that we're down to two, I'm hoping it eases up a bit lol
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21:54.51downeyCh3ck: Some orgs sponsor their own "summer of code" internships, yes
21:55.00perepujalCh3ck: KDE did that other years
21:55.06Ch3ckI think orgs should not only depend on Google but themselves too to help students work on their projects
21:55.09stqismneverpanic: We did then remake our layouts in a way so that it would work
21:55.27downeyCh3ck: not all orgs have funding available to do so :-)
21:55.29PulkoMandyCh3ck: we used to do that, but it didn't work very well
21:55.40Ch3ckyou letter ;)
21:55.50PulkoMandypart of the fun is doing GSoC, not a copy of it
21:56.00PulkoMandy(and we didn't have shirts!=
21:56.17Ch3ckwell not directly PulkoMandy but helping students contribute to opensouce
21:56.28PulkoMandyso, we decided to spend our org money on hiring more experienced developers instead (me!)
21:56.29stqismdowney: Funding? jeeze, we operate under deficit spending
21:56.35Ch3ckgues that' what gsoc is all about right?
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21:56.49perepujalAll orgs will be happy to mentor and pay you with their time, money is another story
21:56.57downeystqism: :-)
21:57.02PulkoMandywe will happily guide students (or anyone) if they want to contribute to our project
21:57.06PulkoMandybut we can't pay them
21:57.12stqismPulkoMandy: Same :)
21:57.22Ch3ckthinks money is a gr8 prob on earth, ;)
21:57.26stqismAnd we had one student contact us for just that :)
21:58.18Ch3ckis running late for the vodka party! downey is gonna kill me if i don't keep him a bottle ;)
21:58.38downeyhah
21:58.41downeyenjoy Ch3ck
21:58.54pulkitIs it okay to allot two slot to same project in any organization?
21:59.17Ch3ckstqism: guess u guys accepted right?
21:59.26neverpanicpulkit: yes.
21:59.28MatthewWilkespulkit: Yup, either the project can be split then made in more depth, or they can be duplicated
21:59.29stqismCh3ck: Pardon?
21:59.35MatthewWilkespulkit: It's up to the org
21:59.43MatthewWilkesand the student, if it's split and depth
22:00.02Ch3ckstqism: who wanted sponsorship outside gsoc?
22:00.14jpiriecan we see a map (or have the data to create one) of where everybody is working on GSOC this year?
22:00.17stqismCh3ck: He came up to us today :)
22:00.22jpiriewould be quite interesting
22:00.45pulkitokay may be..but the project i am talking about was not of that complexity that it requires 2 student..anyway thanks  :P :D
22:01.02diadarapulkit: I was asked if I was intrested in a different project from the one I proposed
22:01.35pulkit<diadara>Same i my case
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22:01.52panzonejpirie: they published some information in the past
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22:02.10panzoneso i think they' ll do the same this year
22:02.22PulkoMandypulkit: I told this earlier, some orgs look for long-term contributors
22:02.23jpirieah nice, ok
22:02.38PulkoMandyso, if they get two very great applications for the same project, they can accept both
22:02.43stqismPulkoMandy: I'd hope they all do
22:02.58PulkoMandythey know only one of the two will be used in the end, but maybe they can keep both students
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22:05.35pulkitOnce the list is out is there any possibilty of changes?
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22:06.40stqismpulkit: Nada
22:06.46stqismMinus mentors
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22:08.04epifanioHi gsoc :)
22:08.06epifanioi've a question about melange/gsoc i'll try on #melange as well
22:08.52epifaniomy ideadid not get accepted, i've it exposed as public link, do you know how can i remove the public link ?
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22:20.45fewcha!next
22:20.46gsocbotfewcha: "next" is The GSoC Community Bonding Period is now on. Students begin coding on 19 May, 2014
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22:46.09shachafIf a student decides to back out just after being accepted, is it possible to allocate their slot to someone else?
22:46.53meflinno
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22:47.07shachafThat's the impression I had.
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23:14.13andrei__Hello! I'm having a bit of trouble with melange. I was accepted and I want to make my proposal public, I can edit it, but there's no button to make it public. Can someone help? thanks!
23:14.51stqismandrei__: Ask in #melange
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23:16.21andrei__stqism: thanks, sorry!
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23:27.34rajulandrei__, i am not sure if you may be able to make your original proposal as public now....
23:28.27rajulandrei__, but you should be able to go to you project page from the link available to you if you go to you project page from amongst the list of the accepted projects.....
23:29.09rajulthere you may update the information about your project and provide a detailed description about your project proposal....
23:29.21andrei__It's not for me, I want to be able to provide a link to it. Also, since the whole project is open source, I doubt there's a reason to keep it private now :)
23:29.40rajulandrei__, and as the project is accepted now.....that is the most logical place to make edits now...
23:30.04rajulandrei__, can you tell me which project you are selected for??
23:30.11rajulandrei__, and which org??
23:31.03rajulandrei__, ??
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23:40.02fewcha!numapps
23:40.03gsocbotfewcha: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
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