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| 04:12.19 | bshah | hello! is there any restriction on how to fill Tax form? i.e black ink or like that? |
| 04:13.05 | stqism | I'd check what the form itself says |
| 04:13.22 | stqism | Otherwise black ink is a good choice if it is offline |
| 04:14.35 | bshah | there is nothing indicated on form.. I live outside US |
| 04:15.16 | stqism | Does it say that it has to be printed? |
| 04:16.04 | bshah | no.. |
| 04:16.10 | Turl | I asked Carol today |
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| 04:16.44 | Turl | I handwrote the text on a paper, signed with the required info and made a pdf with my phone |
| 04:16.44 | bshah | what reply you got? |
| 04:17.03 | Turl | I have no working printer nor scanner here :p |
| 04:17.13 | Turl | she said it was ok |
| 04:17.24 | Turl | also printing, filling and scanning was acceptable |
| 04:17.34 | bshah | Turl: well which ink you used? black or blue? |
| 04:17.35 | Turl | I don't think they'd care about the ink color |
| 04:17.47 | Turl | I used blue and scanned with google drive in B/W |
| 04:17.55 | bshah | okay cool.. |
| 04:18.01 | bshah | Thanks! :) |
| 04:18.34 | Turl | I'd say as long as it can be read and it's not some rainbow colored ink you should be fine :) |
| 04:18.47 | bshah | :D |
| 04:19.07 | Turl | I believe they'll contact you to make a new one if it's unsuitable anyway |
| 04:19.16 | Turl | as they did with the proof of enrollment |
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| 11:21.13 | psychon | how much of a bad mentor would I be if I didn't push my student more when he basically does nothing for a week? :/ |
| 11:25.08 | somaen | Well, that depends on whether you want the project to succeed or not. |
| 11:25.29 | somaen | If that means the student has to catch up later, that potentially means more pushing later. |
| 11:26.01 | somaen | It also boils down to what criteria you have for getting dropped from the programme. |
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| 11:40.49 | PulkoMandy | psychon: it also may be ok if the student warned you that this would happen. We accept students knowing they will have exams/vacations/... during the program. If they tell us upfront and adjust their timeline, that's fine |
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| 11:41.52 | psychon | PulkoMandy: well, he is still studying till end of may, but still I am a little disappointed about what he did so far... |
| 11:42.06 | psychon | seems like I'll be writing a sad mail on monday |
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| 11:51.07 | somaen | This is before the official start of coding though |
| 11:51.29 | somaen | But I have no idea about what agreements you have wrt proposals etc, so can't really say. |
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| 11:55.34 | psychon | yeah, true |
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| 13:39.42 | kblin | sigh |
| 13:41.03 | kblin | unit testing web application java script logic is always such a pain |
| 13:41.23 | kblin | especially if you want "make test" to work |
| 13:41.54 | PlkMndy | try iOS applications :/ |
| 13:42.04 | PlkMndy | even getting "make" to work is a pain |
| 13:42.11 | rick_h_ | hey ,<3 make |
| 13:42.33 | rick_h_ | we do it in one project with a phantomjs test runner against a nodejs service. |
| 13:42.45 | rick_h_ | in another, I just open a bunch of tabs with Make to run the tests |
| 13:42.53 | rick_h_ | I want to update it to use grover to keep it all cli |
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| 13:43.05 | rick_h_ | but all of them are wrapped around make |
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| 13:46.53 | PlkMndy | WebKit's DumpRenderTree coud be a good tool for this (it's used for webkit test suite, runs the tests as HTML pages and renders the text contents of the page). But I don't think it's available outside of WebKit build as a regular app... |
| 13:47.21 | rick_h_ | kblin: what are you using for your test suite/runner currently? |
| 13:48.27 | kblin | I don't have tests so far, I'm trying to fix that |
| 13:48.49 | kblin | I mean I do have tests for the server side of the webapp |
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| 13:50.06 | kblin | but I use a knockout.js-based viewmodel for the UI, and I found a bug yesterday that a unit test should have caught |
| 13:50.14 | kblin | so I wanted to get this under test, too |
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| 14:01.17 | kblin | oh well, looks like nothing I can solve this week, as always testing UI is the ahardest part |
| 14:01.40 | kblin | time to get off this train :) |
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| 14:29.00 | dhanush | Is there any deadline for submitting the tax forms? |
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| 14:29.36 | solistice | yes there is, dhanush |
| 14:29.53 | solistice | it's either april 28th or may 15th, can't remember |
| 14:29.54 | toso | dhanush: somewhere in may if you want to receive the later payments |
| 14:30.35 | dhanush | toso, solistice : oh okay. at least its not today. just wanted to confirm that. Will be able to upload the forms tomorrow. :) |
| 14:30.44 | toso | :) |
| 14:31.01 | toso | more importante is payonner, next monday |
| 14:31.05 | toso | important* |
| 14:31.12 | solistice | yes, that was april 28th |
| 14:31.16 | solistice | was not sure |
| 14:31.29 | stefanct | does anybody know if there is a way to get money out of payoneer by ACH? |
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| 14:39.14 | blast007 | stefanct: I imagine that the payoneer tech support might now ;) |
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| 14:40.56 | stefanct | from what i have read so far... they more often than not have no clue what they are doing so i wouldnt bet on that :P |
| 14:40.57 | jbisch | stefanct: Isn't ACH what they use when you sign up for bank transfer? |
| 14:41.37 | stefanct | yes but that only works for your own account. i dont have an us account... |
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| 14:41.59 | stefanct | i have used ACH to transfer the money to a friends account in the past GSoCs |
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| 14:45.24 | tachyons | !payoneer |
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| 14:47.29 | gsocbot | amtkhdkr: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 14:53.19 | one_more_minute | !numapps |
| 14:53.20 | gsocbot | one_more_minute: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1307/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 14:57.59 | andreimac | Hey! Is it ok if we change the email address from google melange profile ? |
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| 16:24.49 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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| 16:27.22 | Spraynard3000 | COME ON EVERYBODY EVERYTHING'S ALRIGHT WE'RE DOING IT TOGETHER ROCK AND ROLL TONIGHT COME ON PIZZA PARTY HAVIN' SO MUCH FUN PARTY PARTY PARTY PARTY SO MUCH FUN |
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| 16:28.06 | ss_ | carols: Foreign Certificate Form has 4 fields, so except signature everything else should be printed or its not required |
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| 16:28.20 | carols | ss_: is that a question? |
| 16:28.35 | l0rd_hex | carols: awe, I wanted some pizza :) |
| 16:28.41 | ss_ | carols: yes, what else |
| 16:28.52 | carols | ss_: what else what? i don’t understand what you’re asking. |
| 16:29.54 | ss_ | carols: in form one field is "printed name", so should it be printed, i mean not hand written |
| 16:30.05 | carols | ss_: printed means hand-written. |
| 16:30.09 | carols | it means printed on the form. |
| 16:30.19 | umccullough | heh |
| 16:30.35 | ss_ | carols: :P, sorry to ask silly question |
| 16:30.54 | umccullough | it means not scrawled in illegible cursive |
| 16:31.14 | l0rd_hex | better use the Google Nexus typewriter |
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| 17:36.41 | ice[9] | anyone here experienced this: |
| 17:36.42 | ice[9] | This user name cannot be used. If you already applied for a Payoneer account, please go back to introduction page and click on “Already applied for a Payoneer account” located on the upper right side of the screen. |
| 17:36.47 | ice[9] | with payoneer? |
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| 17:37.21 | carols | ice[9]: did you ask payoneer customer service about it? |
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| 17:38.15 | ice[9] | yeah, i sent them a mail, just curious to see if there has been a similar problem.. |
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| 17:39.30 | asla | i guess you had tried to register but did not complete the registration |
| 17:39.45 | ice[9] | asla: yup ! |
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| 17:40.11 | ice[9] | now it's basically stuck midway, and even the forgot passwd isn't working.. |
| 17:40.41 | asla | also stuck?? |
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| 17:41.38 | ice[9] | asla: been in a similar situation? |
| 17:41.53 | asla | carols:have a question,..can i edit the email on my melange profile? |
| 17:42.07 | carols | asla: before registering on payoneer? sure. |
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| 17:43.10 | asla | carols:It has to be before? |
| 17:43.24 | asla | ice[9]:yea |
| 17:43.32 | carols | asla: yes, because otherwise the email account on your payoneer account is different than that on melange and you won’t get paid |
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| 17:45.09 | asla | carols:i just registered on payoneer with another email,..now I want to get it on my profile,..okay? |
| 17:45.21 | carols | asla: as long as the two match, sure. |
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| 17:45.44 | asla | carols:nice,..thanks!!!! |
| 17:45.49 | carols | sure |
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| 17:58.44 | KirarinSnow-pyon | carols: I'm a past participant and would like to remove myself from the mailing list but it doesn't appear in my list of groups I'm subscribed to |
| 17:58.53 | carols | KirarinSnow-pyon: sure, just email me |
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| 17:59.04 | KirarinSnow-pyon | ok |
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| 18:09.37 | kremlin- | how's everyone's community bonding going? |
| 18:10.45 | ice[9] | Nice, people at OWASP project are brainstorming new ideas :) |
| 18:11.31 | kremlin- | wow, OWASP, nice |
| 18:11.41 | kremlin- | they work they're/you're doing is going to be really critical in the future |
| 18:11.45 | kremlin- | the* |
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| 18:13.53 | ice[9] | :) |
| 18:15.49 | ice[9] | i find the work (atleast my work) really exciting.. |
| 18:18.06 | kremlin- | ice[9]: aye, i'm doing stuff for openbsd and it's really great to work off a no-nonsense, secure codebase |
| 18:19.07 | stqism | kremlin-: Your no-nonsense secure codebase is a pain for us who make portable versions of your work :) |
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| 18:24.12 | kremlin- | stqism: ohh yeah. |
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| 18:32.01 | asla | ice[9]:what are you working on? |
| 18:32.58 | ice[9] | i am working with OWASP, on the hackademic cryptography challenges |
| 18:33.08 | ice[9] | asla: what about you? |
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| 18:33.51 | asla | openSUSE:adding snapshot support to qemu-xen and similar to libvirt |
| 18:34.05 | asla | ice[9] |
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| 18:34.44 | ice[9] | sounds cool (specially because I have no idea what it is :P ) |
| 18:34.54 | asla | ice[9]:ave never worked on such a large code-base |
| 18:35.39 | asla | snapshots are like restore point for virtual machines |
| 18:35.53 | asla | so am working on xen hypervisor |
| 18:36.04 | ice[9] | ah! |
| 18:36.38 | ice[9] | it sounds even cooler than before (now that i understand it :D ) |
| 18:36.51 | asla | cool what about yours? |
| 18:37.31 | asla | hackademic?are u a mathematician? :D |
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| 18:46.02 | ice[9] | asla well aspiring cryptography researcher :P |
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| 19:04.40 | kaichogami | Hey all. I have a doubt, is it allowed to change the project that got accepted and work on something else for that organisation? |
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| 19:06.09 | carols | kaichogami: work on an entirely different project? no |
| 19:06.24 | carols | kaichogami: modifications or changes to the existing project are of course fine |
| 19:06.32 | carols | as often happens with software development |
| 19:06.52 | carols | but if they want you to work on an entirely different project, that needed to be decided before the application deadline |
| 19:06.53 | kaichogami | The organisation is okay if I work on something else though |
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| 19:07.45 | carols | kaichogami: i’m sure they probably are. but that’s outside the boundaries of gsoc. |
| 19:08.11 | carols | you can do as much side work or additional work or whatever that you like, but that’s just volunteering for an open source software organization, that’s not gsoc |
| 19:08.39 | kaichogami | So if I work on some other project I cant stay in gsoc anymore? |
| 19:08.40 | kaichogami | ok thanks |
| 19:08.45 | kaichogami | I get it.. |
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| 19:09.39 | carols | kaichogami: if you *only* work on some other project? you mean you’re just dropping your gsoc project? |
| 19:10.03 | carols | if that’s the case, if you just don’t work on it, then yeah, you’re not in gsoc anymore, since you’re not developing to the specifications of the project you laid out.. |
| 19:10.53 | kaichogami | No I don't want that. My proposal and one more guy's proposal was the same, so organisation decided that we work on different things |
| 19:11.05 | kaichogami | so I wanted to know if thats allowed |
| 19:13.14 | PulkoMandy | they should have told you to write an alternate proposal before the application deadline |
| 19:13.58 | carols | kaichogami: i think if there really is some huge change that’s happening here you and your org admins need to email me and explain what’s up, because this sounds wrong to me right now. |
| 19:15.50 | kaichogami | Ok I will inform them about this |
| 19:15.56 | carols | okay |
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| 19:19.50 | kaichogami | Is there any chance that I can't continue being a part of gsoc? |
| 19:22.04 | carols | kaichogami: i should hope not. i would hope you would stay in gsoc and work on your project |
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| 19:23.24 | kaichogami | Yea I want to work in gsoc as well.. |
| 19:23.35 | carols | great |
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| 22:44.45 | stqism | carols: From the mailing list, "You've both been muted. Let's please close this topic." Ouch |
| 22:45.29 | Manishearth | stqism: again? |
| 22:45.36 | stqism | Manishearth: Pardon? |
| 22:45.52 | Manishearth | No, so many people getting muted, after so many warnings :/ |
| 22:46.52 | Manishearth | hm, I don't see any new mutes |
| 22:47.08 | Manishearth | list seems to have been relatively quiet :) |
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| 23:50.24 | raniere | the form submission is over? |
| 23:51.07 | Turl | raniere: which form? |
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| 23:53.01 | raniere | the aggrement |
| 23:53.19 | Turl | raniere: eh? |
| 23:53.25 | Turl | scratches head |
| 23:53.34 | raniere | Turl: tax form |
| 23:53.53 | raniere | something wrong with one of my machines |
| 23:54.25 | Turl | ah |
| 23:54.35 | Turl | I think you still have like a month to submit tax forms |
| 23:55.35 | Turl | "Please send in your form as soon as possible. We will consider a tax form submitted by 16 May 2014 to be "on time."" |
| 23:56.25 | raniere | Turl: thanks. I have previous read 16 May but a few minutes ago only "is Friday" |
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| 23:56.58 | raniere | and as soon as I send it less chance that I forgot it |
| 23:58.26 | Turl | raniere: yes, send early == get peace of mind early :) |
| 23:58.37 | Turl | raniere: friday deadline (today) was to register on payoneer |
| 23:59.02 | Turl | ah no |
| 23:59.04 | Turl | it's on monday |
| 23:59.06 | stqism | Also, the great thing about early is that you get more time to deal with issues that might come up later |
| 23:59.07 | Turl | " **You must register with Payoneer and sign up for either a card or bank transfer by Monday, 28 April or you will not receive your payments on time.**" |
| 23:59.16 | raniere | Turl: the register on payoneer I already done |
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| 23:59.53 | Turl | I'm still waiting for payoneer to accept my application |