| 00:03.45 | Turl | downey: link it here so people can join :) |
| 00:04.29 | downey | Turl: https://plus.google.com/communities/104016862964155193604 |
| 00:04.47 | Turl | downey: thanks :) |
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| 04:00.59 | rushboy | Hello, is there anything else a student had to do other than register with Payoneer before 28th April |
| 04:01.00 | rushboy | ? |
| 04:01.19 | rushboy | I mean other tasks have deadlines later, right ? |
| 04:03.08 | olly_ | rushboy: bond with your community? |
| 04:03.19 | olly_ | i think there's a tax form to do too |
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| 04:10.26 | rushboy | olly_: but isnt the deadline for the tax form 16th may ? |
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| 04:11.54 | andre__ | !next |
| 04:11.55 | gsocbot | andre__: "next" is The GSoC Community Bonding Period is now on. Students begin coding on 19 May, 2014 |
| 04:12.04 | olly_ | not sure, but quite possibly |
| 04:15.17 | rushboy | olly_: you a student too ? |
| 04:18.48 | olly_ | no |
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| 05:19.22 | gopesh | !nummaps |
| 05:20.19 | gopesh | !numaps |
| 05:20.25 | gopesh | !numapps |
| 05:20.25 | gsocbot | gopesh: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 06:53.08 | t4nk852 | hello everyone i wish to prepare for gsoc 2015 |
| 06:53.22 | t4nk852 | someone please guide me |
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| 06:56.13 | j9294 | hey everyone i am a rookie and wish to prepare for gsoc 2015 |
| 06:56.35 | j9294 | where do i start? |
| 06:56.58 | stqism | j9294: Start working with a OSS organization now, fix bugs, help with support, etc |
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| 06:58.10 | j9294 | How do I do that? I mean, all I know is basics of C language and a little of java |
| 06:58.22 | j9294 | Will that be enough? |
| 06:59.11 | Niharika | j9294: Gsoc is not only about knowing the programming languages. |
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| 06:59.35 | PulkoMandy | there are all kind of projects in GSoC, you can probably find one that matches your skill set |
| 06:59.56 | Niharika | j9294: And as a side point, you can learn quite a lot of languages in one year. Find a project you like first. |
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| 07:00.07 | stqism | GSoC isn't about money, it isn't about code, it's about open source |
| 07:01.19 | j9294 | I know that very well. That's what I am asking. I have basic knowledge of C & java. All I have done is read ANSI C by Balagurusamy and also a reference book of Java |
| 07:01.39 | stqism | Well, GSoC is for people of all skill levels |
| 07:01.51 | j9294 | I don't care about money. I wish to learn and get experience of how things are at that level |
| 07:02.01 | Shaan7 | j9294: code is like swimming, you gotta jump into ze water and swim, thats the only way to learn ;) |
| 07:02.06 | Shaan7 | books are just references, as you said |
| 07:02.08 | stqism | You don't need GSoC for that |
| 07:02.33 | PulkoMandy | well then, find a project you like, start looking at the code and try to fix a bug in it or add a new feature |
| 07:02.57 | PulkoMandy | most projectds have bug trackers or similar tools with a list of tasks waiting for people to solve |
| 07:03.06 | Shaan7 | j9294: for example, my first ever bug fix, 5 years back, was changing a false to true to fix a UI issue ;) |
| 07:03.19 | j9294 | In college, we are taught programming languages but what's their use at high level programming, how to build applications... All that's too far away and it's upon us to learn by ourselves |
| 07:03.36 | PulkoMandy | you can join the project IRC channel or mailing list, ask for help there |
| 07:03.40 | Shaan7 | yep, that is exactly what you learn contributing to foss projects |
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| 07:04.01 | j9294 | Okay I can do that but how? Where do I start? |
| 07:04.14 | stqism | j9294: Find a project you like |
| 07:04.15 | j9294 | As I said, I have basic knowledge of C & java |
| 07:04.15 | Shaan7 | choose a project that matches your interests |
| 07:04.31 | stqism | We can't choose for you |
| 07:05.06 | j9294 | Yeah obviously I know and I completely agree with that interest part |
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| 07:05.39 | Shaan7 | also, #shamelessmarketing, you can take kde's beginner's guide as an example https://flossmanuals.net/kde-guide/ |
| 07:06.17 | j9294 | But it's like, I know nothing, I just know the basics of these very few languages. I surfed the internet but coudn't find anything that I understand |
| 07:06.34 | j9294 | It's like all I have learned is the ABCD of programming |
| 07:06.47 | Shaan7 | j9294: obviusly, take my example, you dont know swimming before you swim ;) |
| 07:07.00 | stqism | j9294: The first thing I did with code? A fucking web browser in visual basic. No one starts out writing kernel modules |
| 07:07.04 | Shaan7 | this is not your college exam, you learn by doing, rather than learning and then doing |
| 07:07.08 | stqism | Gosh, I was like 12 |
| 07:07.11 | Shaan7 | stqism: +1 :D |
| 07:07.14 | PulkoMandy | j9294: look at the many open source projects from an user point of view first |
| 07:07.22 | j9294 | I don't even know how to choose a project and what to do first? Where to find one? |
| 07:07.24 | PulkoMandy | find some project you already use, or want to use |
| 07:07.29 | stqism | ^ |
| 07:07.47 | j9294 | Like any software I use? |
| 07:07.49 | Shaan7 | j9294: simple, what PulkoMandy said. example - you might be using vlc, or chromium |
| 07:07.53 | stqism | That's oss |
| 07:07.55 | PulkoMandy | you can look at the list of accepted orgs for GSoC, this is nice because there is a reduced set of projects, and they are tagged to help you search |
| 07:08.23 | PulkoMandy | http://freecode.com/ also has a tagged list of projects |
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| 07:08.37 | j9294 | oss means open source systems right? |
| 07:08.48 | PulkoMandy | open source software |
| 07:08.57 | j9294 | you see I don't even know the abbreviation!! |
| 07:08.59 | Shaan7 | PulkoMandy: thats a good collection |
| 07:09.02 | PulkoMandy | now you do :) |
| 07:09.02 | stqism | ... |
| 07:09.03 | Shaan7 | j9294: and now you do! |
| 07:10.15 | madrazr | j9294: just saying I don't know anything reinforces those thoughts and builds a barrier |
| 07:10.21 | madrazr | that is the first thing you need to change |
| 07:10.22 | j9294 | That's a motivation. Thanks :) |
| 07:10.22 | madrazr | to |
| 07:10.32 | Shaan7 | j9294: also useful - http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do.pdf |
| 07:10.33 | Lyude | I remember the first thing I did in visual basic. I was 8 and I tried to make an agenda program. |
| 07:10.34 | Shaan7 | madrazr: o/ |
| 07:10.41 | madrazr | I will learn if I don't know, but will do something |
| 07:10.47 | Lyude | I didn't know how to declare variables so I tried to use hidden text boxes to store data. |
| 07:10.54 | Shaan7 | Lyude: :D |
| 07:11.00 | Lyude | I was one awesome hacker |
| 07:11.08 | Shaan7 | Lyude: not very different from hidden fields in webforms these days :P |
| 07:11.13 | madrazr | Shaan7: \o |
| 07:11.21 | MisterA_ | Lyude: I basically hacked shockwave flash games with vb when I was like 10 too |
| 07:11.23 | Lyude | (thank god I'm not using VB now, *shivers*) |
| 07:11.29 | Shaan7 | WeBee! |
| 07:11.29 | MisterA_ | lol |
| 07:11.40 | Lyude | it's funny because I've actually only been seriously programming for a couple years now. |
| 07:11.45 | PulkoMandy | Lyude: mh... I did the same in Delphi |
| 07:11.46 | madrazr | VB? You kids are too young :P |
| 07:11.48 | Lyude | I only got super serious like 2 years ago |
| 07:11.57 | stqism | Lyude: So many memories |
| 07:11.58 | Lyude | And now I'm working on wayland with gsoc o-o |
| 07:12.11 | PulkoMandy | remembers inttostr(strtoint(textfield1.value) + strtoint(textfield2.value)) |
| 07:12.20 | Shaan7 | stqism: when I feel bored, I unzip the zip file with my VB6 `memories' and run them :P |
| 07:12.29 | Lyude | I don't think I have anything from those days |
| 07:12.43 | j9294 | Oh great! Here I didn't even know one can use languages to hack softwares. God! What the hell I am doing? I am studying computer engineering 3rd year |
| 07:12.44 | stqism | Shaan7: I'd have to find some ancient drive to live my browser memories |
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| 07:12.52 | Shaan7 | stqism: do it, its worth it :D |
| 07:12.56 | PulkoMandy | I think I still have a rar archive of this somewhere... and an unfinished C++ rewrite as well |
| 07:12.57 | Lyude | j9294, don't worry |
| 07:13.07 | stqism | Shaan7: Going to have to :P |
| 07:13.20 | Shaan7 | j9294: there are people who dont know anything, ever :P atleast you're trying, its never late |
| 07:13.24 | Lyude | if you want to get ahead of the game and become the master learn outside of school |
| 07:13.29 | j9294 | I am really glad I got to talk to you people |
| 07:13.30 | madrazr | j9294: you don't have to know that |
| 07:13.41 | Lyude | Honestly 95% of the skills I learned are outside of school |
| 07:13.46 | madrazr | if might be sufficient if you know how to make the butterflies flutter their wings :P |
| 07:13.53 | j9294 | Yea. Actually I have to start learning outside of school. Seriously |
| 07:13.56 | Lyude | These are the same skills that got my proposal accepted |
| 07:13.57 | stqism | j9294: Don't worry about it, our lead developer is amazing at what he does, is hardly getting through class |
| 07:14.06 | Lyude | j9294, yeah, open source is a great way to learn |
| 07:14.14 | madrazr | j9294: That's what real programmers do |
| 07:14.14 | madrazr | http://xkcd.com/378/ |
| 07:14.16 | Lyude | However |
| 07:14.23 | Lyude | I'd recommend you start with your own project first |
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| 07:14.32 | Lyude | Because honest to god hacking other people's code at first is really difficult |
| 07:14.41 | Lyude | More difficult then just generally programming. |
| 07:15.08 | Lyude | You should figure out something that you need, say an IRC client or something, and work on building that from the ground up. |
| 07:15.19 | Lyude | Make sure you feel like you have a solid understanding of the language you're using to do it. |
| 07:15.20 | j9294 | okay for a start, can someone please explain me what IRC is...! Hell I don't even know this! It's just I was surfing through GSoC website and got this link |
| 07:15.22 | stqism | Agreed with that, getting used to someone elses codebase and styles is odd |
| 07:15.23 | PulkoMandy | also, https://xkcd.com/844/ |
| 07:15.26 | Shaan7 | Lyude: not always, depends. otoh, its sometimes difficult to start from scratch |
| 07:15.30 | Lyude | Once you do that, then you should try to hack other people's code |
| 07:15.39 | stqism | j9294: It's a magic chat thing from long ago |
| 07:15.39 | Lyude | Shaan7, yeah it can be, this is how I learned though |
| 07:15.41 | jpirie | agree very much with all this ^, best way to learn imho |
| 07:15.43 | Lyude | Of course everyone is different |
| 07:15.49 | Shaan7 | yeah |
| 07:16.00 | Lyude | But honestly I'm not the only one I've seen to have issues with decrypting other people's code |
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| 07:16.34 | Lyude | j9294, if you find you have a lot of trouble just reading other project's code at first even when you have a solid grasp of a programming language, seriously don't get discouraged. |
| 07:16.36 | PulkoMandy | well, most of my projects are based on existing code |
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| 07:17.05 | Lyude | It took me a long time to actually manage to gain the ability to read most people's code and after a while actually understand and hack it |
| 07:17.10 | PulkoMandy | I think it's easier for me to focus on small issues in parts of the code, rather than designing the architecture for the whole project |
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| 07:17.24 | Lyude | PulkoMandy, that all depends on the person |
| 07:17.27 | j9294 | Okay can I explain my situation first? |
| 07:17.29 | Shaan7 | PulkoMandy: +1, and I think its what Lyude said' its different for people |
| 07:17.32 | PulkoMandy | but yes, everyone is different on this |
| 07:17.33 | Lyude | Yes! Sorry j9294 |
| 07:17.43 | stqism | j9294: Explain away, we're here because you said something |
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| 07:18.45 | j9294 | No need to be sorry. It's just that, one of friends told me that I am very good at programming so I should try participating in some programme like GSoC or join any website like github |
| 07:19.27 | j9294 | and now after talking to you all, only thing that's going on in my mind is - I am even less than a beginner |
| 07:19.39 | Lyude | j9294, no you're not. |
| 07:19.51 | Lyude | Honestly you should consider finding your way into here an acheivement. |
| 07:20.07 | Lyude | Not even joking: that's a lot harder then you'd think for some people |
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| 07:20.42 | darnir | j9294: Not really no. You managed to enter an IRC channel. You know about programming, that's more than most people. |
| 07:20.47 | Lyude | ^^^^ |
| 07:21.05 | Lyude | I know too many comp sci majors that I can't explain how to use an IRC client to |
| 07:21.15 | Lyude | And trust me, I've tried. |
| 07:21.40 | j9294 | But didn't even do anything other than opening a link :-o |
| 07:21.43 | darnir | Also, you should remember that there is a huge divide between programming in academia and the real world. It takes a while to get used to this. Because academia doesn't teach you the most important aspects of programming. |
| 07:21.46 | stqism | Being a compsci major/having a degree is no indicator of skill |
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| 07:22.10 | Lyude | In some cases it doesn't teach you much about programming at all. |
| 07:22.32 | Lyude | And stqism is completely right. I've seen people wave CS degrees in my face who can barely even operate a computer. |
| 07:22.43 | darnir | stqism: True. But I'd expect a comp sci. major to know how to debug and profile code using gdb. |
| 07:22.43 | PulkoMandy | what I learnt at school was mostly computer science. While what most of my job involves is software engineering |
| 07:22.45 | jpirie | I'm a PhD student so i teach courses to students about to graduate |
| 07:22.59 | jpirie | I know people who have graduated with 1sts with no programming knowledge |
| 07:23.03 | jpirie | i kid you not... |
| 07:23.10 | j9294 | what is gdb? |
| 07:23.15 | jpirie | it terrifies me slightly. |
| 07:23.16 | Lyude | GNU debugger |
| 07:23.16 | Shaan7 | gee dee bee |
| 07:23.27 | j9294 | okay |
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| 07:23.40 | Lyude | It's a very commonly used debugger for applications and such, it helps you figure out what you broke :). |
| 07:23.52 | j9294 | oh okay well |
| 07:24.12 | darnir | That is precisely what I'm talking about. Our academic environment has a huge gap between what you learn and what is important. Especially here in India. |
| 07:24.27 | stqism | Lyude: Our lead developer is one of the best cryptanalysists I know, he's amazingly skilled at C, can figure out solutions to some absurdly difficult issues; does horrible in class |
| 07:24.32 | darnir | I've tried to change it, honestly. But status quo matters too much to them |
| 07:24.38 | Lyude | And in the US. I've been taking introductory courses for /years/. |
| 07:24.48 | Lyude | I've been introduced to so many languages and gotten nothing out of it. |
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| 07:25.17 | darnir | has to run. Catch you'll later |
| 07:25.21 | Lyude | Honestly? GSoC is a major factor in me stopping myself from dropping out because I've gotten so little out of school when it comes to CS, and I've gotten so much from not doing my school work and working on my own time |
| 07:25.23 | kblin | darnir: I'm pretty sure that you can still pass comp sci without using your computer for more than doing that part of your homework that you need to hand in electronically and signing up for courses |
| 07:25.50 | Lyude | this is the first time I've actually had something that lets me hone my skills, get paid, and still stay in college to learn from the subjects that will actually help me in programming (like math) |
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| 07:25.59 | ashmew2 | darnir, IMO, only the endorsement lacks, the underlying system is similar to a lot of international universities. |
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| 07:26.42 | Lyude | j9294, lesson 1: geeks like to talk a lot about being geeks and it's very likely we'll keep getting off topic if you don't help us :P |
| 07:26.47 | darnir | kblin: Which I believe is very bad overall for everybody. Comp Sci majors don't have to be amazing programmers. I know way too many people in comp. sci. research who never program. But academia is supposed to give you a flavour of everything out there. |
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| 07:26.54 | j9294 | Okay so, let me tell you all exactly & precisely what I know first. My 2nd year computer engineering just got over. We had C Programming as a subject in which we had to perform different basic programs related to printing triangular patterns as a start and then upto different programs involving loop structures |
| 07:26.57 | stqism | Oh wait |
| 07:27.01 | stqism | !offtopic |
| 07:27.01 | gsocbot | stqism: "offtopic" is Take the chat to ##gsoc-offtopic, please. |
| 07:27.26 | Lyude | ah yes, j9294, you should probably join that room so we don't get in trouble |
| 07:27.41 | j9294 | are you all in that room? |
| 07:27.49 | Lyude | j9294, type /join ##gsoc-offtopic |
| 07:27.52 | Lyude | into your client |
| 07:27.53 | stqism | We can push people to it |
| 07:27.54 | Lyude | and it should join |
| 07:28.03 | stqism | We seem to forget it exists though |
| 07:28.14 | Lyude | yeah topic separation doesn't really work well in IRC |
| 07:28.29 | Lyude | I've been on IRC for years and stuff always revolves back to the main channel |
| 07:28.36 | kblin | does it work anywhere else? |
| 07:28.41 | Lyude | Good point. |
| 07:28.46 | Lyude | I guess it works on forums sometimes? |
| 07:28.50 | stqism | It works in Tox well, kinda |
| 07:29.04 | stqism | If you look at things backwards |
| 07:29.06 | Lyude | Doesn't work here though, we've already started going off topic! |
| 07:29.11 | stqism | shit |
| 07:29.20 | stqism | Their is no winning |
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| 07:40.53 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "utc" is When developing open source, you'll work with people in time zones all over the world. Check http://goo.gl/wUKjq for current times, including UTC. |
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| 13:38.24 | ashepelev | VarunAgw: Hello, as I understand there are now plans to deliver something right now. The only thing - you should recieve your MasterCard from Pioneer if you have already registered. For me it took about a week to ship it. |
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| 14:01.06 | VarunAgw | ashepelev, Thanks, Actually I meant if shipment tracking works or not? |
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| 14:30.47 | VarunAgw | Anybody received their welcome package yet? |
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| 14:31.53 | firespeaker | anyone know what the fees are for payoneer's bank option? |
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| 14:32.23 | VarunAgw | !payment |
| 14:32.23 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "payment" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/studentpaymentcards |
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| 14:33.01 | VarunAgw | firespeaker, ^^ |
| 14:33.04 | firespeaker | yeah |
| 14:33.10 | firespeaker | hm, I'd seen that before and not understood for some reason |
| 14:33.21 | firespeaker | so for US students, iiuc, it's just $1.50 per transfer to bank |
| 14:33.27 | firespeaker | and we shouldn't have to worry about anything else? |
| 14:34.45 | VarunAgw | Although I hope so but I can't confirm. Confirm it from payoneer support |
| 14:35.12 | firespeaker | hm, I probably won't |
| 14:35.20 | firespeaker | I already registered for bank, assuming it woudl be less |
| 14:35.27 | firespeaker | I'll just wait and see |
| 14:35.50 | firespeaker | the extra $5 for the fees is nice, and will help either way :) |
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| 15:06.29 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "next" is The GSoC Community Bonding Period is now on. Students begin coding on 19 May, 2014 |
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| 18:33.39 | JordiGH | carols: Is it too late for extra slots? |
| 18:33.53 | carols | JordiGH: yep, way too lae |
| 18:33.54 | carols | late |
| 18:33.59 | gevaerts | For which year? :) |
| 18:34.02 | JordiGH | Okay, thanks. |
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| 18:34.12 | meflin | I want an extra for 2017 |
| 18:35.32 | gevaerts | How many slots will there be for the centennial gsoc? |
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| 18:36.32 | meflin | 69472 and we are all invited to the MS ... to bad we will all be dead |
| 18:36.55 | gevaerts | Surely by then the google time machine will be ready? |
| 18:37.22 | meflin | g-life extension ;) |
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| 18:37.38 | scorche|sh | gevaerts: well, depending on how you look at it, the google time machine is already ready |
| 18:38.44 | gevaerts | scorche|sh: go on... |
| 18:39.42 | meflin | obviously scorche|sh knows the actual student count for the centennial |
| 18:40.00 | gevaerts | scorche|sh knows everything |
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| 18:41.41 | scorche|sh | gevaerts: its a time machine! |
| 18:42.04 | scorche|sh | meflin: well, "student" is such an archaic term |
| 18:42.26 | gevaerts | scorche|sh: but... I definitely ordered a fridge! |
| 18:44.01 | scorche|sh | gevaerts: funnily enough, the Back to the Future "time machine" was originally going to be a refrigerator |
| 18:44.21 | gevaerts | is happy to learn that! |
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| 18:57.36 | kxra | crap i missed the payoneer deadline |
| 18:57.49 | kxra | i haven't been able to register because "United States" is not an option on the website |
| 18:58.20 | kxra | there's "United States Minor Outlying Islands" but not "United States |
| 18:59.52 | meflin | kxra: that seems to vary by person ... I have that issue as well but it doesn't seem to be os based |
| 19:00.16 | kxra | meflin: that's bizarre |
| 19:00.25 | kxra | this seems like a major issue |
| 19:00.33 | carols | kxra: are you sure you’re using the link i sent you? |
| 19:00.41 | meflin | contact support |
| 19:00.42 | carols | and not just trying to register from the payoneer website |
| 19:00.43 | carols | ? |
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| 19:01.18 | meflin | carols: did a whole thing with this over the weekend ... its the same from the link in the email .... |
| 19:01.29 | carols | meflin: okay |
| 19:01.38 | kxra | carols: i'm using the link in the acceptance email |
| 19:01.43 | carols | kxra: cool |
| 19:01.46 | carols | then contact support |
| 19:01.55 | meflin | linux/chrome/firefox doesn't work for me(usa) does work from a diff usa person on debian iceweasle |
| 19:02.02 | kxra | the other issue i have is that when i try to select a country on the bank deposit option, the button doesn't work |
| 19:02.12 | kxra | the "sign up" button, i mean |
| 19:02.17 | carols | kxra: again, support is your first stop |
| 19:02.24 | kxra | yeah, trying that now |
| 19:02.37 | meflin | windows/chrome works ... its very odd I saw screen shots of it working |
| 19:02.41 | carols | great |
| 19:03.20 | meflin | that person who asked this weekend opened a support ticket |
| 19:03.33 | carols | …as anyone with payoneer questions should do. |
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| 19:05.19 | meflin | its strange enough I wish I saw the fix report ... |
| 19:06.03 | carols | you could file the question yourself and get the answer if you really wanted to know that much... |
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| 19:06.32 | meflin | heh |
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| 19:06.52 | ishitva | !numapps |
| 19:06.53 | gsocbot | ishitva: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 20:45.07 | gsocbot | gafsa_lagare: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 21:54.29 | aspidites | i was told to file a ticket with melange, but am not seeing where to do that |
| 21:54.40 | aspidites | uploading forms is broken, so i can't submit my tax form |
| 21:54.41 | umccullough | you can ask in #melange |
| 21:55.54 | aspidites | ah, this was the channel listed on melange's page. thanks |
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| 21:56.16 | olly | aspidites: click on tehe "powered by melange" logo at the bottom |
| 22:01.42 | aspidites | 0 response on that channel... and I've submitted a bug report |
| 22:02.18 | aspidites | i know you guys can't do anthing, but i have to say that it's rather frustrating not being able to submit documents required for me to get paid and there not being a contengency plan for when the site doesn't work as expected |
| 22:02.33 | olly | you'll often need to wait a while for #melange to respond |
| 22:02.47 | aspidites | especially when the answer given is "file a bug report" and there are already 319 tickets submitted. |
| 22:02.50 | olly | i think you still have several weeks to submit those documents |
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| 22:03.23 | olly | the ticket queue is definitely not FIFO |
| 22:07.28 | aspidites | well thats good |
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| 22:12.25 | umccullough | aspidites, you can always email carols and explain your frustration, she might allow you to send her the documents manually until the technical problem is resolved |
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| 22:14.33 | aspidites | umccullough: she was the one who pointed me to the bug tracker to begin with... |
| 22:14.42 | umccullough | heh |
| 22:14.50 | umccullough | i guess that answers that |
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| 22:15.24 | umccullough | sounds like it's not universally broken, since i don't think others are complaining about it |
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| 22:15.32 | umccullough | maybe just your browser or environment |
| 22:15.46 | aspidites | i've tried several browsers. i'll try on my tablet |
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| 22:16.04 | umccullough | unless it's a recent bustage that hasn't been noticed yet |
| 22:16.20 | umccullough | i don't follow the melange development whatsoever, so...i'm clueless |
| 22:16.51 | olly | aspidites: i'd suggest trying an "anonymous" browser session |
| 22:17.07 | olly | that sometimes helps such cases |
| 22:17.16 | umccullough | ah yes |
| 22:17.22 | umccullough | especially if there's junk cached |
| 22:17.22 | olly | i think due to cookies or locally stored data exceeding some limit somewhere |
| 22:18.31 | aspidites | olly: nothing. thanks for the suggestion thouh |
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| 22:19.57 | aspidites | even wiped my setup and get the same error page |
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| 22:23.40 | aspidites | ok, so google drive isn't working either... but upload for email works |
| 22:24.31 | aspidites | makes me feel better if only because it might actually be on my end |
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| 22:37.12 | aspidites | interesting, only pdf fails |
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| 22:37.47 | meflin | pdf isn't a free format |
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| 22:38.15 | aspidites | permissions problem i think |
| 22:38.33 | aspidites | meflin: free or not shouldn't change whether or not i can upload it |
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| 22:39.07 | meflin | no comment |
| 22:39.39 | aspidites | please note that could and should are different things. that said, it's not copyright, so "should" is irrelevant here |
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