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16:26.48gevaertsOh, I am! Nearly time to go home, so all is well :)
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18:10.38curious_Hi, Anybody here?
18:11.21meflinnope
18:11.31meflinask your question :)
18:12.00curious_Will student be invited to mentor summit?
18:12.17meflincurrent or past?
18:12.25curious_current
18:12.46meflinnot sure ... the details are yet to be made
18:13.20curious_meflin: Any idea when we will get the details?
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18:13.25tachyonscurious_, probably No !!!
18:13.43meflinno idea .. they will be announced when they are decided
18:13.57gevaertstachyons: why probably?
18:14.02meflinthis year is special .. in normal years the answer to your question would be ... are students mentors ;)
18:14.23curious_yes, I saw a blog post
18:14.51tachyonsgevaerts, because mentors summit is for mentors only ;-)
18:15.00meflinnot this year
18:15.36tachyonsmeflin, I think it is a separate or renamed event
18:15.53gevaertsYes, but the new event replaces the mentor summit
18:15.59gevaertsSo it's the same thing :)
18:16.12tachyonsanway invitation may not include travel cost :p
18:16.26meflinpiffle
18:16.34gevaertsWell yes, but the word "invitation" doesn't imply getting paid :)
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18:16.40curious_gevaerts: So, Is it confirmed that student will be invited?
18:16.59gevaertshas been invited to parties where he had to pay to get there!
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18:17.12meflincurious_: past students yes
18:17.16gevaertscurious_: as meflin said, wait for the announcement
18:17.18meflincurrent no idea
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18:17.39meflindetails who gets invites ect ... no one knows
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18:18.05curious_perhaps carol knows :)
18:18.14tachyonscarols won't answer before official announcement :-)
18:18.28gevaertsShe probably has a clearer idea than the rest of us, but that doesn't mean everything has been worked out yet :)
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18:23.08carolswhat’s the question?
18:23.37meflinthe question was do current students get to attend this years mentor+summit
18:23.48carolsmeflin: ah, right
18:23.59carolsthey’ll know when we announce the event
18:24.21tachyons^^ expected answer :D
18:24.29VarunAgwcarols, And will Google sponser their travel?
18:24.39carolsVarunAgw: they’ll know when we announce the event
18:24.47carolsi can make a little factoid if you all would like?
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18:25.08meflinseems clear .. and the answer was already given ;)
18:25.10tachyons!summit
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18:26.19tachyons!mentorsummit
18:26.20gsocbottachyons: "mentorsummit" is cool bananas and a great place to meet an amazing selection of Open Source developers. Intense, packed. With free food and a t-shirt. On October 20th & 21st in California.
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18:26.35carols!forget mentorsummit
18:26.36gsocbotcarols: The operation succeeded.
18:26.41carolswrong, all wrong.
18:26.48umcculloughfree food!
18:26.53umcculloughthat's all that matters...
18:26.59gevaertsIt's not in California this year?
18:27.03gevaerts*finally* Zurich?
18:27.03VarunAgwgsocbot needs a reset
18:27.09meflincarols: well it IS cool bananas and it is the tshirt that counts :D
18:27.18carolsmeflin: true
18:27.25carolsif you’d like to change the factoid, please feel free
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18:45.44sss_is performing bad at academics worth it for getting selected in gsoc?
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18:47.41teepeesss_: where's the connection between both things?
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18:48.34sss_teepee: as in for future terms, in point of view of a student
18:49.18teepeestill does not understand the question
18:49.59teepeesss_: joining gsoc is a good thing for sure, to learn new thing, get involved with people and see how opensource development works
18:50.51sss_teepee: I wanna ask is it ok, that you get selected in gsoc on cost of your academic performance
18:51.24MisterA_why would it cost you academically
18:51.30teepeehmm, like fail classes?
18:51.32gevaertsI don't think anyone here will say yes to that
18:51.44gevaertsRecommending doing badly at university is dangerous :)
18:51.49sss_ya, fail or not too good performance
18:51.52teepeeindeed, that's not a good idea
18:51.58MisterA_why would it effect your performance?
18:51.59VarunAgwVarunAgw will yes (he hates college education)
18:52.05MisterA_sounds like an excuse to me :P
18:52.13sss_VarunAgw: even I
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18:52.27VarunAgw:)
18:52.30sss_MisterA_: ya actually it is
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18:52.49meflinstop making excuses and go forth and excel
18:53.29teepeesss_: you have tons of summer classes? or where's the conflict that causes that big a problem?
18:53.41sss_meflin: my exams are over, and I've spoil each one my exam
18:54.01VarunAgwlol
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18:54.08sss_:P
18:54.22sss_but I got gsoc
18:54.25meflinsounds like you are failing uni just find on your own ;)
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18:55.36downeycarols: What's this about you trying to forget the mentor summit?
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18:55.57downeyprepares tea
18:56.42meflinwatches the kettle so it never boils
18:57.18gevaertsthinks he read somewhere that tea is better if the water *just* didn't boil
18:57.38meflingevaerts: see I am helping :P
18:57.40downeygevaerts: not unlike eggs
18:57.43gevaertsYes, well done!
18:57.52gevaertsdowney: well, eggs just explode :)
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18:58.16meflinthe best way to hard boil an egg actually is in the electric tea kettle
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18:59.05gevaertshas a coworker who managed to boil an egg in the microwave oven without it exploding inside
18:59.19meflindang .. skills
18:59.28gevaertsIt exploded when he started peeling it
18:59.34meflinheh
18:59.40teepeewrong tools then ;)
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19:00.18gevaertsSo the next time he boiled it the old-fashioned way in a pan of water, but then he forgot about it, the water boiled away, and it exploded again
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19:00.40gevaertsI believe his wife now no longer allows him to boil eggs :)
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19:01.30meflinwell I'm no longer allowed to <buffer overflow>
19:01.44aerohaha :)
19:01.48puckipediaWell, I can't use C anymoreSFDSdfhuasdfAWEHAROVEacweroataoyrtVOEYRTVEORYTVYAEROTVRETVawer348759624%@#$%@(#$*%@4
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19:04.20umcculloughpuckipedia, wrong channel?
19:04.58blast007buffer overflow joke, I'd guess
19:04.59puckipedianope :P
19:05.09puckipediamore no null-terminated string
19:05.15umcculloughoh, wasn't paying attention :)
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19:26.02dhanushany one know whats the name of the pen in the welcome package? Its really awesome. I plan to buy more of them. :P
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19:28.30VarunAgwI was looking for the brand name (if any). But, there was none written on it
19:29.58gevaertsusually doesn't give his pens a name :)
19:31.14dhanushVarunAgw: yeah. I looke on refill too. Tough luck.
19:32.41VarunAgwI guess they were manufactured espicially for GSoC. So, you can't purchase them somewhere
19:32.58puckipediawell, usually they just buy them and let the company print them
19:33.37puckipedia(that is generally, I don't know if Google has their own pen factory)
19:34.13gevaertsGoogle isn't really known for promoting pen and paper instead of computers, so I doubt that
19:34.20sttaylorGoogle does not have it's own pen factory.  : )
19:34.29puckipediaNice to know!
19:34.44sttaylorwe order them from a supplier, each we look for new pens that we like. It's a lot harder than you would think.
19:35.03sttayloreach year, rather
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19:36.07dfighterthen I guess buzzsaw media handles branding and delivery
19:36.19dfightersince buzzsaw media is the sender on the fedex package
19:36.40VarunAgwSo, they are not directly purchasable from your suppliers on internet? right?
19:36.49puckipediaWell, depends
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19:38.31puckipediawas about to say, 'of course Google chose Buzzsaw media: they have a Google+ page!'
19:38.48puckipediaThen I saw it wasn't updated since 2011... https://plus.google.com/103112888977762965264/posts
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19:42.39downeyhttps://www.googlestore.com/shop.axd/Search?keywords=pen
19:42.55puckipediaI think it's special pens
19:43.39dhanushis disheartened that this awesome pen will not be available for purchase.
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19:44.27gevaertsbets it is
19:44.31gevaerts*somewhere*
19:45.41downeyblack market gsoc pens?
19:46.06gevaertsThat's one way
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19:46.54puckipedia:P
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19:50.19bitgeekygot a pen without refill and half broken :-(
19:51.20sttaylorBuzzsaw does not make them for us, they only ship our items.
19:51.35sttaylorWe order from another company that orders from a pen company, etc.
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19:53.15gevaertsbitgeeky: I suspect that a friendly email to the right people might get you another one
19:53.31puckipediaOooh! Free notebook! https://www.googlestore.com/Google+Redesign/Office/Notebooks/Hideaway+Notebook.axd
19:53.50carolspuckipedia: what’s this got to do with gsoc?
19:54.00puckipediaidk
19:54.09puckipediaoh yeah, I found it via the link above
19:54.16carolsokay, then take it to a private conversation please
19:54.22carolsthis channel is for gsoc-related conversations
19:54.26bitgeekythanks gevaerts I wasn't sure whome to ask (Complain to Fedex)  or ask carols ?
19:54.40carolsbitgeeky: if you need help with something you’re welcome to email me
19:55.14bitgeekycarols, its about the broken pen without a refill that I received :P
19:55.19gevaertsbitgeeky: as far as I understand things, it's always the *sender* who has to complain to the courrier anyway
19:55.25carolsbitgeeky: sure, just email me
19:55.35bitgeekyok thanks carols gevaerts
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20:03.03dhanushcarols: any chance someone could identify the company from which the pens are ordered? they are awesome!
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20:24.28cosenalI am filing taxes and I am asked for: »Description of the source of the foreign income«
20:24.36cosenalwhat should I put for GSoC
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20:29.40meflinwe are not tax professionals
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20:30.40gevaertshelpfully points out that what meflin is true, but it's probably *not* what you should write there
20:30.40umcculloughand even if we were... maybe only for our specific country of origin :)
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20:34.03cosenalI will rephrase it then: anyone who has done gsoc and filed tax in canada and knows the answer?
20:36.23cosenalor a more general question: what's the formal name of the gsoc employment?
20:37.56teepeecosenal: check the faq
20:38.31ollycosenal: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#17._employment
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21:01.37carolsdhanush: they’re not made for retail, but thanks for asking
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