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| 15:03.30 | carols | thanks downey |
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| 15:06.44 | gsoc179 | hey do u know where do people get training for GSoC? |
| 15:07.32 | jpirie | gsoc179: do you mean how to prepare to the acceptance process? |
| 15:07.55 | umccullough | training? |
| 15:07.57 | jpirie | s/acceptance/application/ |
| 15:08.00 | gsoc179 | yup |
| 15:08.08 | umccullough | there are plenty of FAQs out there |
| 15:08.20 | jpirie | it's good to prepare by doing development on open source software |
| 15:08.24 | jpirie | look at the open source tools you use |
| 15:08.41 | jpirie | and then start getting involved with the development of those tools |
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| 15:09.42 | umccullough | the best "training" you can get is to actually find an organization that regularly participates in GSoC and start working on their codebase |
| 15:09.56 | umccullough | there's nothing inherently gsoc-specific about working on FOSS projects |
| 15:10.54 | umccullough | http://en.flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/ |
| 15:11.14 | gsoc179 | but why would they accept my changes to thier codebase? |
| 15:11.22 | umccullough | because they're useful? |
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| 15:12.00 | jpirie | gsoc179: if you're just starting out, maybe look for some really easy bug to fix just to get familiar with the whole process of submitting a patch/pull request |
| 15:12.13 | jpirie | even if it's just a whitespace fix, any kind of "low hanging fruit" |
| 15:12.41 | downey | jpirie: You should check out OpenHatch.... Good resource for learning open source skills |
| 15:13.01 | downey | Sorry that was for gsoc179 |
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| 15:23.22 | carols | downey: when are you getting to oscon? |
| 15:23.55 | downey | carols: PDX I am in you |
| 15:24.10 | carols | downey: oh wow, okay, nevermind :-) |
| 15:24.14 | downey | carols: I'm at Burgerville :) |
| 15:24.21 | carols | i thought _i_ was going to be there for a long time |
| 15:24.24 | carols | i was wrong :-) |
| 15:24.26 | downey | Haha |
| 15:25.05 | downey | CLSing today |
| 15:25.29 | carols | ah, right |
| 15:25.38 | carols | weâre arriving a little late for that this year :-P |
| 15:26.14 | downey | carols: I'm not too keen on this new schedule |
| 15:26.30 | carols | downey: me either. oscon starting on sunday? |
| 15:26.32 | carols | thatâs just weird. |
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| 15:26.59 | downey | Now away for 1.5 weeks as a result |
| 15:27.55 | carols | yeah, iâm only going to be gone 8 days. but thatâs a long time! |
| 15:27.57 | carols | i like my house |
| 15:28.04 | umccullough | heh |
| 15:28.13 | umccullough | one of these years, i need to make my way to portland |
| 15:28.20 | downey | umccullough: indeed you do |
| 15:28.24 | carols | agreed |
| 15:28.26 | umccullough | think they'll ever do oscon in SJ again? |
| 15:28.32 | downey | I don't |
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| 15:28.43 | downey | Portland is too perfect for open source |
| 15:28.58 | umccullough | that was probably one of the best shows Haiku ever did |
| 15:29.07 | umccullough | cons |
| 15:29.28 | downey | You can even do a lot with the free pass |
| 15:29.48 | carols | i actually think that i could get by on the free pass |
| 15:29.58 | carols | since i never actually make it to sessions |
| 15:30.05 | carols | and the tutorials are lost on me |
| 15:30.12 | downey | carols: my boss is doing that this year |
| 15:30.16 | carols | not such a bad plan... |
| 15:30.24 | downey | Hallway track FTW |
| 15:30.36 | carols | downey: the google booth should be pretty awesome this year *wink wink nod nod* |
| 15:30.55 | downey | carols: yay! I liked the lounge |
| 15:30.56 | carols | yeah, seriously, i spend so much of my time getting flagged down by people who want to talk anyway... |
| 15:31.09 | umccullough | heh |
| 15:31.12 | downey | carols: will it be a private plane this year? |
| 15:31.17 | umccullough | the perils of being a celebrity |
| 15:31.25 | carols | downey: a private plane? landed in the expo hall? |
| 15:31.28 | downey | Yep |
| 15:31.32 | carols | umccullough: i am not a celebrity :-) |
| 15:31.34 | carols | chris is |
| 15:31.36 | carols | not me. |
| 15:31.45 | downey | carols: I saw you on YouTube |
| 15:31.49 | umccullough | everyone knows you though |
| 15:31.54 | carols | meh |
| 15:32.01 | carols | i donât know about that. |
| 15:32.05 | Palash | also saw the video! |
| 15:32.09 | carols | âeveryoneâ is a lot of people |
| 15:32.12 | carols | Palash: which video? |
| 15:33.25 | Palash | carols : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVnN34YGz8s |
| 15:33.41 | carols | ah yes.the good old days |
| 15:33.44 | carols | before i cut my hair |
| 15:33.57 | carols | when people would just walk up to me and start touching my hair. |
| 15:34.22 | Palash | hehe |
| 15:34.35 | carols | people are weird. |
| 15:34.38 | downey | ... |
| 15:34.52 | downey | carols: people? Or mentors? |
| 15:35.08 | carols | downey: people |
| 15:35.08 | carols | just people. |
| 15:35.08 | carols | random people. |
| 15:35.08 | carols | and you know the weirdest part? |
| 15:35.19 | carols | they wouldnât say anything, they wouldnât even acknowledge it |
| 15:35.25 | downey | ... |
| 15:35.29 | carols | yeah. |
| 15:35.32 | carols | so anyway |
| 15:35.32 | umccullough | people just touch you? |
| 15:35.34 | umccullough | ew |
| 15:35.35 | carols | those days are over |
| 15:35.40 | carols | umccullough: yeah, i know, right? |
| 15:35.47 | carols | this is part of the reason i cut my hair. |
| 15:35.51 | umccullough | i get weirded out when people stand too close to me :/ |
| 15:35.52 | downey | never claimed to understand people, that's why he studied psychology |
| 15:36.02 | carols | umccullough: me too. |
| 15:36.05 | umccullough | like "rubbing shoulders" close |
| 15:36.07 | carols | i like my personal spae. |
| 15:36.11 | carols | space, even. |
| 15:36.30 | umccullough | i remember when my wife was pregnant, people would just come touch her belly without even asking |
| 15:36.35 | downey | carols: we should do a proxemics session at the reunion |
| 15:36.43 | carols | umccullough: it was exactly lke that. |
| 15:36.48 | umccullough | terrible |
| 15:36.53 | carols | downey: i agree! you should put it on the moderator page. |
| 15:37.04 | carols | umccullough: yes. enough for me to give up my purple hair to stop |
| 15:37.11 | downey | carols: is there one? I was looking a while back |
| 15:37.18 | carols | downey: sigh. |
| 15:37.56 | downey | :-/ |
| 15:38.10 | carols | downey: you know the google+ event you got invited to yesterday? |
| 15:38.28 | downey | I do** |
| 15:38.32 | carols | downey: itâs on the picture there. |
| 15:38.36 | carols | itâs also here. https://sites.google.com/site/gsocmentorsummitstudentreunion/pre-summit-checklist-for-gsoc-2014-mentors-org-admins |
| 15:38.37 | downey | Oh! |
| 15:38.59 | carols | i think iâve just been shouting into space this year with this reunion. |
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| 15:39.29 | downey | I swear I looked on the site... Its in the channel logs :) |
| 15:39.46 | carols | downey: even with all the reminders i sent for the event this year weâre still less than half full. |
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| 15:40.16 | downey | carols: how do the numbers compare with last year? |
| 15:40.23 | carols | waaaaaayy down |
| 15:40.27 | carols | way, way, down |
| 15:41.09 | downey | :-/ |
| 15:41.13 | carols | and a lot more orgs telling me they dont want to go to the reunion and onât want their stipends as well |
| 15:41.29 | umccullough | don't want stipends? |
| 15:41.32 | downey | carols: explicitly saying that? |
| 15:41.36 | carols | yes |
| 15:41.40 | downey | ... |
| 15:41.45 | umccullough | 's head explodes |
| 15:41.50 | carols | yeah |
| 15:43.01 | meflin | how do you not want moneys |
| 15:43.04 | downey | carols: I'm sure there are a lot more orgs that would like to add delegates |
| 15:43.13 | carols | downey: there are |
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| 15:43.24 | carols | and then thereâs the lottery winners |
| 15:43.36 | carols | who are winning and then not responding to actually take their spots |
| 15:43.41 | carols | i donât know. i just donât know. |
| 15:43.59 | downey | The lottery winners I can understand a bit more |
| 15:44.18 | downey | Maybe they get sticker shock |
| 15:44.22 | carols | maybe |
| 15:44.26 | carols | thatâs certainly possible. |
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| 15:44.30 | downey | But the orgs... |
| 15:44.38 | carols | free money and free travel.. |
| 15:44.43 | carols | ânah, we donât want that." |
| 15:45.03 | gsoc424 | hey for the GSoC how does one get the required training for clearing bugs? |
| 15:45.11 | downey | carols: what % of orgs came to MS last year? |
| 15:45.16 | scorche|sh | obviously the free money and travel should just go to the lottery winners (wink wink nudge nudge) ;) |
| 15:45.21 | gsoc424 | or actually making a project? |
| 15:45.23 | carols | downey: um, about 85%? |
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| 15:45.37 | carols | scorche|sh: actually, you joke, but i was considering it |
| 15:45.40 | carols | except the problem is |
| 15:45.48 | carols | how do i distribute it equitably? |
| 15:45.48 | downey | gsoc424: check out http://openhatch.org/missions/ |
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| 15:46.30 | downey | carols: I don't think you can BUT |
| 15:46.33 | gsoc424 | do they actually teach on how to clear out bugs? |
| 15:46.43 | umccullough | would be nice to have a pre-paid room for our two lottery winners ;) |
| 15:46.51 | downey | downey: You could do a separate lottery entered by org admins |
| 15:47.05 | umccullough | and also, one of our delegates may not have all her travel costs covered this year :/ |
| 15:47.14 | carols | downey: another *!?!()& lottery, though? |
| 15:47.18 | downey | carols: the org admins could enter lottery people from their org |
| 15:47.35 | carols | downey: a lot of lottery winners arenât going on the behalf of an org. |
| 15:47.36 | downey | carols: its like the waiting list but random |
| 15:47.48 | umccullough | hmm |
| 15:48.02 | umccullough | in our case, we have two delegates and two lottery winners who are mentors going |
| 15:48.05 | carols | downey: and what about the lottery winners who have already booked their hotel room? wonât they feel slighted? |
| 15:48.15 | umccullough | probably |
| 15:48.24 | umccullough | maybe increase the travel expense allocation for the orgs? |
| 15:48.31 | downey | carols: they could be reimbursed through the org if the org admin names them? |
| 15:48.39 | carols | umccullough: yeah, i was thinking about that too. |
| 15:48.57 | carols | downey: so basically they have to have a good relationship with an org or theyâre sol :-) |
| 15:49.09 | downey | I'm suggesting most of the same thing as umccullough |
| 15:49.14 | downey | Yep ;-) |
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| 15:49.18 | umccullough | heh |
| 15:49.18 | carols | yeah |
| 15:49.26 | carols | weâre thinking about it. |
| 15:49.39 | carols | weâve gotten so many orgs who donât want to go and so many hotel rooms going up for grabs |
| 15:49.44 | downey | I mean I'm sure our current student who won the lottery could use travel assistance |
| 15:49.45 | carols | weâre pondering what to do. |
| 15:49.58 | umccullough | very odd |
| 15:50.00 | downey | 100 chocolate rooms? |
| 15:50.09 | carols | downey: iâm sure stephanie would like that |
| 15:50.20 | downey | carols: let us speak more of this tomorrow |
| 15:50.27 | carols | indeed. |
| 15:50.30 | umccullough | maybe the orgs don't feel the reunion is special becuase so many people are invited? |
| 15:50.35 | carols | iâll be in portland in t minus 12 hours. |
| 15:50.51 | downey | Well it's NOT at the wild palms ;-) |
| 15:50.54 | umccullough | there's a point where a gathering gets too big, and it's no longer "exclusive" |
| 15:50.55 | carols | umccullough: maybe? i thought that would be what made it special since students and people from previous years would be there.. |
| 15:50.59 | carols | maybe i was wrong :-( |
| 15:51.04 | umccullough | yeah, i dunno |
| 15:51.08 | umccullough | i'm no psychology expert |
| 15:51.13 | downey | I don't think that's it |
| 15:51.17 | carols | whatever it is, iâm definitely not doing this again |
| 15:51.24 | carols | itâs clear itâs not working in this form |
| 15:51.52 | downey | I spoke with a former GSoC person who was also feeling it was the early schedule |
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| 15:52.04 | umccullough | maybe that's all it is |
| 15:52.05 | downey | Kind of like the new OSCON schedule :) |
| 15:52.23 | downey | People love the summitunion |
| 15:52.29 | carols | maybe. |
| 15:52.32 | umccullough | although, it's not really that much earlier than previous years is it? |
| 15:52.39 | carols | umccullough: itâs not! |
| 15:52.44 | umccullough | just earlier than last |
| 15:52.45 | carols | this is what i keep saying! |
| 15:52.45 | downey | All of them, we see the profuse love in the feedback sessions |
| 15:53.11 | carols | well, if it keeps going this way itâll basically be the size of the normal mentor summit just in bigger hotels and new locations |
| 15:53.23 | carols | so maybe it will in fact be just like the mentor summit after all |
| 15:53.35 | downey | I guess the ride queues will be short! |
| 15:53.47 | carols | yep! |
| 15:53.53 | downey | winning |
| 15:53.53 | carols | and the line for video games :-) |
| 15:54.19 | downey | Xbox? :-p |
| 15:54.23 | downey | ducks |
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| 15:55.01 | downey | At bridge there were a bunch of old school video games running on raspberry pi's |
| 15:55.10 | meflin | well if that many ppl dont show up you can always use the money for the private jet :D |
| 15:55.23 | carols | downey: i just meant at the theme park weâre going to have all the video games open |
| 15:55.25 | downey | meflin: that's a brilliant idea |
| 15:55.42 | downey | carols: nice. I've never been there :) |
| 15:56.03 | carols | itâs fun |
| 15:56.07 | carols | nothing amazing |
| 15:56.08 | carols | just fun |
| 15:56.18 | carols | and for 4 hours for free, why not, you know? |
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| 15:57.30 | carols | iâm very much looking forward to the friday gala event myself. |
| 15:58.58 | downey | Im looking forward to the campus tour :-P |
| 15:59.39 | carols | downey: the store has new android figurines this year ;) |
| 16:00.01 | umccullough | will all the new construction be finished? |
| 16:00.03 | downey | carols: I need to take a census of the ones in the office |
| 16:00.11 | carols | umccullough: the construction where? |
| 16:00.25 | umccullough | i dunno, when i was there before, there was a bunch of areas sectioned off |
| 16:00.29 | downey | Maybe there will be a giant letter "L" sculpture? |
| 16:00.29 | umccullough | for GCI |
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| 16:00.59 | carols | umccullough: oh thatâs all done :-) |
| 16:01.05 | carols | itâs been done for a while |
| 16:01.08 | umccullough | ok |
| 16:01.24 | umccullough | yeah, i guess that was quite a few months back now ;) |
| 16:01.30 | umccullough | loses track of time |
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| 16:01.50 | carols | it looks very nice now |
| 16:02.05 | downey | Well it will be great and the people who do go will have a great time |
| 16:02.08 | carols | we have nice overhead âumbrellasâ that are built in to cover the patio and stuff |
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| 16:13.49 | Palash | is excited about the reunion! |
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| 16:22.44 | downey | carols: will we be using the wiki this year? |
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| 16:27.01 | gopesh | carols: will we having a video recording of the reunion just like the google io |
| 16:27.10 | carols | gopesh: no |
| 16:27.14 | carols | why would we do that? :-) |
| 16:27.38 | gopesh | so that everyone who couldn't make it will be able to see it |
| 16:27.51 | gopesh | after all its; 10 massive years |
| 16:28.05 | carols | gopesh: well, the 10 years stuff weâre doing other publicity for |
| 16:28.15 | carols | the reunion is an event for the people who have participated in the program |
| 16:28.37 | carols | gopesh: you could come see my keynote next week at oscon about the 10 year anniversary |
| 16:28.54 | downey | that will be on video too |
| 16:28.58 | gopesh | I cannot go to oscon :P |
| 16:28.59 | carols | yep |
| 16:29.05 | carols | you can watch that on video |
| 16:29.13 | downey | free on YouTube :) |
| 16:29.19 | gopesh | carols: sure I will watch it |
| 16:29.20 | carols | yep |
| 16:29.22 | carols | great |
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| 16:31.42 | carols | downey: do you think we should video the reunion? |
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| 16:32.12 | downey | carols: no |
| 16:32.19 | carols | iâm glad weâre agreed |
| 16:32.22 | downey | carols: at least not the unconference sessions |
| 16:32.34 | carols | umccullough: do you think we should video the reunion? |
| 16:32.35 | downey | carols: if there are some remarks or anything maybe that |
| 16:32.42 | umccullough | carols, sure? :) |
| 16:32.51 | umccullough | carols, a montage might be nice |
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| 16:32.59 | carols | weâve got one no and one yes. |
| 16:33.02 | meflin | I would like note that strong words where erased before my answer of .. no |
| 16:33.03 | downey | video is a distraction in 93.7% of unconference sessions |
| 16:33.15 | umccullough | maybe |
| 16:33.32 | carols | we will have a photographer there |
| 16:33.38 | carols | taking pictures at the events and stuff |
| 16:33.41 | downey | also how can you do video of a discussion when some people have red lanyards? |
| 16:34.07 | carols | i have no idea. |
| 16:34.09 | downey | carols: a montage interview thing could be good, like last year or the CLS video |
| 16:34.23 | carols | downey: huh. |
| 16:34.30 | downey | "highlights" |
| 16:34.32 | umccullough | for the record, i wouldn't do a live stream or anything |
| 16:34.32 | carols | alright, iâll take it under advisement. |
| 16:34.53 | umccullough | just clips of video from various events so people can see waht they missed :D |
| 16:35.01 | carols | alright |
| 16:35.03 | gopesh | carols: I was not talking about the live stream |
| 16:35.04 | carols | iâll think about it |
| 16:35.30 | downey | campus tour should definite be a video :P |
| 16:35.30 | gopesh | umccullough: +1 |
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| 16:36.33 | umccullough | will have his camera with him anyway |
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| 16:36.47 | downey | what about a panel OSPO presentation Hangout on Air with Q&A from the audience |
| 16:36.53 | downey | hides |
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| 16:38.17 | carols | downey: what exactly are people going to ask in the Q&A that they couldnât ask otherwise? :-) |
| 16:38.51 | downey | I don't know, I don't have any questions :) |
| 16:39.05 | carols | i feel like every question has been answered already. |
| 16:39.13 | carols | maybe because iâve answered them all already 3 times. |
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| 16:39.40 | gopesh | carols: it;s just a request : I have been working on Open Source Event Manager Application for openSUSE |
| 16:39.41 | downey | never underestimate the creativity of a Hangout audience |
| 16:40.01 | carols | gopesh: well what is it that youâd want to get from the video? |
| 16:41.18 | gopesh | experiences people sharing their thoughts ideas a short intro about themselves |
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| 16:41.54 | gopesh | what org they represent where they came from what they worked on |
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| 16:42.00 | gopesh | how they are feeling |
| 16:42.15 | carols | gopesh: like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6hUaXucUOs |
| 16:42.18 | downey | gopesh: We made some of those last year :) |
| 16:42.49 | gopesh | downey: yes I saw some mentors talking about their orgss |
| 16:43.03 | downey | carols: More interviews could always be nice :) |
| 16:43.26 | carols | downey: do you think so? i feel like people are getting so tired of it :-) |
| 16:43.29 | downey | the interviews are win-win-win for google orgs and students |
| 16:43.38 | carols | maybe itâs a misconception on my part :-) |
| 16:43.40 | gopesh | carols: yes maybe a little more length taking more number of people |
| 16:43.56 | downey | it's good advertising for the first two and informative for the latter |
| 16:44.20 | carols | alright, well, itâs more money. |
| 16:44.24 | Palash | gopesh : You want students to be interviewed or the mentors? |
| 16:44.27 | gopesh | so the request I was talking about was to use OSEM for google reunion |
| 16:44.29 | carols | so iâll think about it. |
| 16:44.52 | gopesh | https://events.opensuse.org/ |
| 16:44.56 | downey | student interviews could be super helpful too |
| 16:45.04 | gopesh | students |
| 16:45.13 | downey | the one or two done in studio were nice |
| 16:45.38 | gopesh | bcoz this year is special for students |
| 16:45.57 | downey | interviews of people while on roller coasters? :) |
| 16:46.48 | Palash | that's a nice idea |
| 16:46.56 | gopesh | carols: if you can use the splash page for publicity of the gsoc reunion on OSEM it will be more helpful for advertising purposes |
| 16:46.59 | gopesh | https://events.opensuse.org/ |
| 16:47.24 | carols | gopesh: i donât think i understand what you mean. publicize gsoc on opensuse? |
| 16:47.33 | gopesh | nope |
| 16:47.47 | gopesh | use OSEM to publicize the gsoc reunion |
| 16:48.07 | gopesh | I built the splash page as a part of my gsoc |
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| 16:49.09 | gopesh | instead of using a separate site for publicity use this opensource tool for managing your conference |
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| 16:50.03 | gopesh | https://drive.google.com/?tab=mo&authuser=0#folders/0B8TQsfyoffN5emVsNzAzV1VVZFE |
| 16:50.14 | gopesh | some snaps of how the splash will look like |
| 16:50.26 | carols | okay, thanks |
| 16:50.29 | carols | iâll look into it |
| 16:50.46 | carols | iâm only one person with very little time :-) |
| 16:50.55 | carols | doing more publicity and more things is difficult for me |
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| 17:13.47 | downey | carols: you are on screen at CLS right now :p |
| 17:13.55 | carols | on screen? |
| 17:14.00 | carols | oh, one of the videos? |
| 17:14.03 | downey | plenary slides |
| 17:14.13 | downey | smiling in a happy unconf session |
| 17:14.19 | carols | ah :-) |
| 17:14.23 | carols | very nice |
| 17:14.31 | carols | iâll be there in person soon! |
| 17:14.34 | carols | t minus 9 hours |
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| 19:33.08 | NikolaiToryzin | I always seem to just miss carols ;-; |
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| 20:24.11 | Botanic | one of our deligates to the summit used the wrong code, so they both used the same one |
| 20:24.29 | Botanic | who do i need to talk to or is that not an issue? |
| 20:24.32 | meflin | the hotell web thingy is editable |
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| 20:26.18 | Botanic | meflin, coolk tks |
| 20:26.44 | meflin | many links in the email from the hotell .. try them all most of them dont work ;) |
| 20:27.02 | meflin | guess how I know |
| 20:27.12 | umccullough | you're psychic? |
| 20:27.18 | meflin | TWAP |
| 20:27.24 | meflin | i forgot to put my code in |
| 20:27.57 | meflin | link #247 woirked |
| 20:28.35 | Botanic | meflin, well its a hotel, you really expect them to have a good website :P |
| 20:28.43 | Botanic | i mean look at the goverments healthcare one :D |
| 20:28.46 | meflin | heh |
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