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12:56.16karanpanybody received the package?
12:57.31rieskaranp: sticker + shirt
12:57.59karanpries: can you tell me the sender's address?
12:58.19karanpas in the location in US from where it is coming
12:58.25MatthewWilkesDoes it matter?
12:58.30riesI am afraid not, I think we did throw away the package already
12:59.34karanpmy package has arrived but something went wrong...now for tracking, fedex needs this info
13:01.26MatthewWilkeskaranp: If there's a problem with your package you should speak to ospo directly. If it's arrived I'm not sure how you'd track it anyway.
13:02.15PulkoMandysneder address on mine is: "Attn: GSOC 2014 / BUZZSAW MEDIA / 950 N REGSTORFF AVE STE E / / MOUNTAIN VIEW / CA 94043 US"
13:02.25karanpPulkoMandy: thanks :)
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13:40.29DeepDiverThanks for the t-shirt! \o/
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13:59.48riesDeepDiver: proof it! Here is mine : https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A5532ODWGJNcSh
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14:07.24DeepDiverries: https://cloud.tmit.eu/public.php?service=files&t=64c917dcbe3f2fc8bf849dab6f5b0559
14:07.48riesDeepDiver: you look serious, but it’s proof
14:07.49ries!
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14:09.15DeepDiverI took some selfies while laughing - the mobile was shaking and the image was fuzzy ;-)
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14:10.34harshadura!logs
14:10.34gsocbotharshadura: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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15:54.16carolsserves some tea and coffee
15:56.16downeythanks carols :)
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16:05.04carolsyw downey :-)
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16:05.25downeycarols: about to send over our blog post to maryr
16:05.52carolsgreat!
16:05.54carolsglad to hear it
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16:33.19brlcadcarols: whether that was your doing or steph's ... or the collective team, that's pretty awesome
16:33.32carolsbrlcad: which?
16:33.37brlcad(today's hilton email)
16:33.53carolsbrlcad: yeah, it’s because so many people aren’t using their slots or are dropping out :-(
16:34.03brlcadwell it's still awesome
16:34.08carolswe’re going to hit attrition on the hotels if we don’t give away the rooms
16:34.45carolsi’m glad you think it’s awesome :-)
16:36.01carolsdberkholz: you around?
16:36.34dberkholzcarols: yeah
16:36.38carolspm?
16:36.44dberkholzsure
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17:16.54downeycarols: did I miss a hilton email?
17:17.01carolsdowney: are you a delegate?
17:17.06downeyyes
17:17.13carolsthen no, you didn’t miss an email
17:17.18downeyok :-)
17:17.38downey!tea | downey
17:17.38gsocbotdowney: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
17:17.39carolsit was only sent to people who are paying for rooms or staying offsite right now. if you’re already getting a free hotel room, we’re not going to offer you a second free hotel room ;-)
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17:18.00downeycarols: aw shucks, needed a room for swag
17:18.08carolswe actually have one of those
17:18.10carolsi kid you not
17:18.12downeyhaha
17:18.23carolsit’s just a whole conference room for storage
17:18.26downeyi can imagine you'd need at least one
17:18.37downeygood job to whoever did the green tshirts btw
17:18.46carolswell, we need two. but luckily we’re going to just keep a lot of it at the reg desk and it will go away quickly
17:18.53carolsdowney: yeah? you like the green?
17:19.03carolswe did green in 2010 i was worried people wouldn’t like it again
17:19.16downeycarols: i'm not big on green but it's a good size, nice design, and feels good
17:19.24carolswhy thank you, downey.
17:19.36carolsi’ve already got the complaints coming in, it’s nice to get a compliment here and there
17:19.46meflinI'm kinda meh on green .. but its a good green
17:19.50downeyit also pairs pretty well with my android hoodie
17:20.00carolsmeflin: i’ll definitely that take as a compliment coming from you ;-)
17:20.02downey(not claiming to be a fashion expert)
17:20.13meflinwell I am stuck in no mode
17:20.26carolsmeflin: so saying it’s a good green is high praise :-)
17:20.40meflinsuper green :D
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17:21.25downeyneeds to get busy ordering his reunion stickers
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17:22.16meflinI need to get my tea pre-ordered ... one of the ones I want is perpetualy out of stock even tho they order it in 5lb's at a time
17:22.50carolsmeflin: downey: i actually wanted to ask you both about that
17:23.00carolswould one or both of you be able to bring one or two electric kettles?
17:23.21downeycarols: not sure, i'll need to ask the folks in the office if they'd part with one
17:23.29carolsthanks
17:23.35downeycarols: will let you know soonish
17:23.37carolswe’ve got the water and we’ll have disposable cups
17:23.41meflinare those alowed on carry on?
17:23.41carolsjust need the kettles for the room
17:23.47downeymeflin: should be
17:23.48carolsmeflin: gosh, i have no idea
17:24.00downeymeflin: as long as it's got no water inside
17:24.28meflinI will battle the keeper of the tea kettle and see
17:24.40scorche|shaaoh - i wonder if i might be able to bring mine
17:24.40downeyTSA web site says tea kettles are OK for carry-on
17:24.43carolsthanks to you both
17:24.43meflinif you never hear from me again you know I lost ;)
17:24.52carolsmeflin: i have faith in you!
17:24.55carolsgodspeed@
17:25.14downeycast iron kettles are OK, too :)
17:25.18meflinheh she is at work right now I still have time  :D
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17:25.43meflinmy bag is getting full this year :D
17:25.55carolsmeflin: good problem to have :-)
17:26.04carolsyou’re probably going to go home with even more stuff too ;-)
17:26.32meflinfmy coat has big pockets it can probably fit a few chocolate bars ;)
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17:27.12downeysomeone ought to create official GSoC tea equipment
17:27.17downeykettles, cups, etc
17:27.29meflinthat would be most desirable ;)
17:27.44meflincarols: how big are the cups
17:28.00carolsmeflin: just normal conference size..i guess 12 oz?
17:28.06meflincool
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17:28.21meflinI was planing on pre-bagging my loose tea .. so I kinda need an idea ;)
17:28.23carolswe’re serving lots of coffee during the event already :-)
17:28.32meflincaffee is for loosers ;)
17:28.42downeywill the barista bar be back this year?
17:28.48carolsnope
17:28.51carolsno baristas
17:28.57carolsthe hotel doesn’t offer a barista
17:29.10carolsbut if you desperately need an espresso drink there’s a starbucks in the lobby of the hilton
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17:29.27meflinstarbucks doesn't qualify as coffee :D
17:29.50downeytop lel
17:30.00downeyi'm giving up caffeine
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17:31.44scorche|shwell, let me know if you folk cant bring yours and i can look at bringing my t me know if you folk cant bring yours - i have qa Cuisinart CPK-17 - nice for tea with keep warm function and lots of temperature settings for whites vs greens vs blacks
17:31.59scorche|shsheesh - that message got mungled up
17:31.59meflinlocal?
17:32.16scorche|shno, but i can probably fit it in my bag
17:32.22downeyfancy :)
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17:32.42meflinthat could do good work ... I was planing on bringing a green
17:33.24meflinmy kettle is basic .. it turns on and off :D
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17:33.48meflinat this altitude its not a big deal tho ...
17:34.01scorche|shwell, so does mine - it just turns on and off at more complex rates  ;)
17:34.49meflinits going to be a bit werid for me to make tea at sea level ... boil is a lot hotter down there
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17:35.47scorche|shmost teas are better if not thrown into boiling water though...that releases more bitter notes
17:37.22meflinwater boils here at 202F
17:38.10meflinthats roughly 94C
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17:40.09scorche|shthats not too bad - whites are often 170-180ish; greens 185-195; blacks are best for boiling
17:41.41meflincarols: I have 1 kettle on the way
17:41.47warthog9carols: if you are fishing for a tea kettle I can bring mine
17:41.53meflinthat one
17:41.57warthog9it's not super fancy but meflin will vouch for it
17:42.09carolsjust a couple for the room from whomever would like to bring them would be great
17:42.17carolsyou guys can argue amongst yourselves about it :-)
17:42.21downeywarthog9: i may delegate my task to you, a bit worried about snatching the one from work for a week
17:42.42meflinscorche|sh: if you can bring yours that is 2 and a very good kettle for the various types of tea
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17:43.09scorche|shyeah - i will trya nd bring mine - we can keep it at a good temp for green teas  =)
17:43.16meflinnice
17:43.27meflinI'l see if I can bring mine as well ... hard to have to many kettles ;)
17:44.42carolsthanks guys
17:46.06meflintea is most desirable
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18:07.18banassharing this here, think it's relevant:
18:07.20banashttp://sarupbanskota.github.io/fedora/2014/09/16/on-contributing.html
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18:11.54MatthewWilkesPeople are dropping out of the reunion? Crazy!
18:12.12carolsMatthewWilkes: yeah. a lot didn’t want to send any delegates at all and now a lot are canceling
18:12.54meflinpuzzles
18:13.10carolsi feel the same way.
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18:13.37carolsi thought we were going to be hitting our maximum numbers on hotels and registration and instead it’s quite the opposite
18:13.42carolsworried about hitting attrition because our hotel rooms are going unused
18:13.43meflinI've always had more ppl who want/should go and not enough slots/funding
18:13.49carolsyep
18:14.16MatthewWilkesWe've traditionally had problems as the mentor summit hits up against the Plone conference. This year everyone was interested
18:14.32carolswell, you guys are definitely the exception
18:14.36MatthewWilkesMost still backed down because of the prospect of huge amounts of flying in a week, but still
18:15.12MatthewWilkesSilly projects. We'll have to make them jealous.
18:16.38Hav3nHello, I wanted to know the procedure for requesting a letter in regards to university credit for GSoC
18:17.16carolsHav3n: it’s on the accepted students page
18:17.25carolsin the cpt section
18:19.17downeyshorter lines at magic mountain, i guess!
18:19.30meflinmore tea for us :D
18:19.53tierraalso as the exception, this is the first year our org had to turn down interested delegates... previously we'd only send one mentor
18:20.03tierrathis year it's two, and I signed up for the lottery
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18:21.23carolsyeah, definitely the exception.
18:21.29carolsoh well, more chocolate for stephanie.
18:21.36tierra:)
18:21.48downeywe'll have 6 i think (2 delegates + 4 lottery)
18:24.29Hav3ncpt section ?
18:25.00carolsHav3n: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/studentinfo#cpt
18:26.11Hav3nAh, thanks..I will do the necessary
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18:44.56scorche|shwell, at least everyone at the summit will likely be the ones wanting to be there  =)
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18:45.16carolsscorche|sh: a very good point and a nice way to look at it :-)
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18:50.18MatthewWilkes:)
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19:22.37meflinwonders how many rooms the hilton has
19:23.39gevaertsInfinitely many
19:23.48meflinheh not true
19:23.54gevaertsOh, hil*ton*
19:24.07gevaertswas thinking of the hilbert hotel
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19:24.25meflinI serve 5 hotels ... the oldest one has 479 room ( its kinda a work-ish curiosity )
19:27.30MatthewWilkesgevaerts: I stayed there once
19:27.32MatthewWilkesWas terrible
19:27.40MatthewWilkesThey kept changing what room I'd been assigned
19:28.04gevaertsMatthewWilkes: did you ever move to a lower numbered room?
19:28.08meflinMatthewWilkes: you have been asleep for 2 hours time for a new room ;)
19:29.05meflingoing to have to bring my test kit .. I love watching large wireless deployments crumbling
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19:31.19carolsmeflin: we’ve specifically got google engineers testing the wifi in the hotel, so hopefully that won’t be a problem :-)
19:31.34meflincarols: take all the fun out of it then :P
19:31.36pigeonflightHi, just checking in regarding the reunion someone told me there may be a few hotel rooms available for lottery winners
19:31.56carolspigeonflight: if it’s applicable to you you would have received an email about it
19:32.04brlcadcarols: hah, I've yet to see a hotel not buckle under a load of geeks
19:32.25carolsbrlcad: alright :-)
19:32.27pigeonflightcarols: understood
19:32.35brlcadif they pull it off, kudos to the engineers or to hilton or whomever pulls that rabit out
19:33.02meflinyou need engineers who know there wifi in and out and up and down
19:33.35scorche|shwell, there are always specific things that we could do to make it fail, but we are all upstanding folk anyway  ;)
19:33.38meflinI was disapointed the last time I was at the wild palms and it didn't colaps
19:34.07carolsmeflin: the wild palms never had very robust wifi, but that’s not the reason we stayed there.
19:34.35meflinfirst 2 years is fell all apart .. super fun with a test kit ( and this is one of the things I do )
19:35.00MatthewWilkesmeflin: To paraphrase Scotty from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A1TZQk5Wgk - "802.11ac, no bloody a, b, g *or* n."
19:35.03scorche|shso, there are two hotels each with their own pool hangout area - is there a specific one that is best to cluster around?
19:35.23meflinMatthewWilkes: bad choice for a large implimentation
19:35.38MatthewWilkesbad choice for any, tbh, as hardly anyone has it yet, but anyway :)
19:35.51carolsscorche|sh: firstly, there is no plan to have accessing the pools as part of the event time, so guests have to do that on their own. second, i think the max capacity for the pools is like 30 people each
19:35.52meflinac eats the whole band
19:36.05carolsthey’re tiny
19:36.15carolsthe point of the reunion is not the pools :-)
19:36.20scorche|shcarols: hrm - i am just thinking of past events where we would often have a big group lounging in and around the hot tub
19:36.22MatthewWilkesAs long as I don't have to get a certificate set up for .1x I'll be happy
19:36.24carolsit was just a nice feature of the wild palms
19:36.31meflincarols: correct its the tea .. the tea is the thing
19:36.36carolsyep
19:36.37carolsthe tea
19:36.44carolsand if you ask stephanie, the chocolate
19:36.50MatthewWilkesand the whisky
19:36.55scorche|shthe hottub discussions were one of my favorite parts of old summits  =)
19:37.02meflincolorado whisky ... :D
19:37.10carolsscorche|sh: you’ll just have to have the discussions anyway without the water :-)
19:37.25scorche|sh=)
19:38.20meflinwell I for one hope the wifi dies ... fun times for me :)
19:38.26scorche|shcarols: is there going to be some sort of other room (suite/meeting room) open long into the night then?
19:38.30carolsor find your thirty closest friends to huddle around the very small pool
19:38.42carolsscorche|sh: define “long into the night"
19:38.56scorche|shit is up for interpretation  =)
19:39.02carolsthe ballroom and the festivites are all going until midnight
19:39.06carolsafter that you’re on your own
19:39.13carolsso do you consider that “long into the night"?
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19:39.24meflinI do not ... but it
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19:39.38meflinits it better not to be to hung over to make the morning sessions
19:39.51scorche|shnot really, but that is probably sufficient to provide us time to figure out where to go after  ;)
19:39.51carolsthe other nice thing about these hotels is that they are in the middle of downtown san jose, so if you guys despeately need to hang out until 3 in the morning you can just go to a local bar down the street
19:39.57MatthewWilkesIndeed. I can't remember the last time I saw a morning session at a Plone conference
19:40.12carolseveryone has a different preference for conference.
19:40.29carolsjust like everyone’s got a different opinion about the schedule for gsoc
19:40.38MatthewWilkesand t-shirt colours
19:40.56carolsi planned the event that i can manage logistically without tearing my hair out, and you are all adults who can modify it as needed to accomodate your tastes.
19:40.59meflinpurple is the only coulour :)
19:41.06MatthewWilkes(sorry, I couldn't resist)
19:41.17meflinadults? us?
19:41.35carolsyes. you.
19:41.40carolsi plan to treat you that way as well.
19:41.46meflinI refuse to grow up
19:43.16meflinhmm now I have to plan something super childish to do :D
19:43.38MatthewWilkesmeflin: Don't ruin it by being childish. Just eat chocolate and play with LEGO like the rest of us.
19:43.50meflinthat could work
19:43.56pigeonflightlego?
19:44.09scorche|shcarols: yes, thats fine - i wasnt asking to change the event for us - more tempering our own expectations so we know how to proceed
19:44.20meflinwe are all grown up ofcourse we are playing with LEGO's
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19:44.38MatthewWilkespigeonflight: There's usually a room full of LEGO to play with
19:44.39carolsscorche|sh: there is ample public transportation in the area and lots of bars and things to do. it’s not out in the middle of nowhere like the wild palms was
19:44.46MatthewWilkesit's good for chatting
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19:45.39scorche|shcarols: sounds good!
19:45.42carols:-)
19:45.55MatthewWilkespigeonflight: Photos online, such as https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3449/3400094412_bb82764388.jpg
19:46.03meflinlego's , analizing the wifi, making tea ... dang how can you get better then that
19:46.42gevaertsOr http://c3.staticflickr.com/7/6048/6303648645_46f0e6e308_b.jpg
19:47.33pigeonflight@MatthewWilkes woah, impressive
19:48.02carolsyou guys haven’t sent any pictures of the chocolate pile yet :-)
19:48.06scorche|shpigeonflight: that is me and that was far from the most impressive incarnation of that!
19:48.26carolsi love marty in his smoking jacket in the background, too.
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19:48.44MatthewWilkesI had to pick that photo because of the people more than the toys
19:48.52pigeonflightgevaerts, scorche|sh, carols, I noted the chocolate in the pic from gevaerts
19:48.54MatthewWilkesscorche|sh: the OLPC standing desk is brilliant
19:49.05scorche|shlooks for the best incarnation of that contraption
19:49.21meflinthat reminds me the tea/chocolate room needs some tunes
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19:50.53meflinwithout marty's jazz we need some things
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19:51.01carolsmarty will be there this year
19:51.07carolsi don’t know if he’s bringing anything, though
19:51.10MatthewWilkesoh, excellent
19:51.16carolshe’s a volunteer so he’s going to have his hands full as it is
19:51.20meflinpoke him for some sweet jazz
19:51.24tierrahttps://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasbonte/10372790536/in/photolist-8Msosf-gNBgf9-aB62Rd-8MsGsq/
19:51.36MatthewWilkespigeonflight: ^^
19:51.43carolsyeah, that’s a good picture of the chocolate :-)
19:52.00pigeonflightlikes
19:52.12scorche|shhere we go - the final version: https://imgur.com/MNLloMM
19:52.22meflinthat isn't a good pick of the chocolate overrun ;)
19:52.39MatthewWilkesscorche|sh: Ah, a high-res version of your profile pic
19:52.40scorche|shnote the tinkertoy stick locking the XO into place and the integrated sound system
19:53.09scorche|sh(and of course the monkeys out of their barrel)
19:53.18tierrahttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Wo1_ATcqEMU/Tsvk4M0QG4I/AAAAAAAAAZg/yLMqkaEt15I/s1600/image00.jpg <- 2011 Mentor Summit
19:53.29MatthewWilkeswow
19:53.34meflinyep that is the one
19:53.47gevaertsfinds his own chocolate in there :)
19:53.50tierraI was there for the 2011, wasn't there for the 2013
19:54.05carolsi think 2011 is the first year we did the chocolate room?
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19:54.10gevaertsIt was
19:54.11pigeonflightnotes that he will have to pay a visit to http://www.chocolatedreams.com.jm/ before heading to the reunion
19:54.17carolsdidn’t rob just do a “chocolate session” before that?
19:54.20meflin2011 as I recall the end session included throwing chocolate at ppl to make it go away
19:54.33meflinand I think so
19:54.40tierraI seem to recall something like that as well
19:54.48gevaertsI know I brought chocolate in 2010, and people still wanted it
19:54.57gevaertsIn 2011 everyone had too much
19:55.07carolswe have too much every year :-)
19:55.12gevaertsNot in 2010!
19:55.12carolsit never all gets eaten
19:55.18meflinChef/Wife was very happy with the 5+ huge bars I brought home
19:56.12pigeonflightI suspect my wife will be pleased if there’s left over chocolate this year :)
19:56.52meflinnot bringing chocolate this year .. just tea ... and lots of it
19:58.35meflinfiguring out how to make iced tea under the conditions is ... complicated
19:59.13pigeonflightmeflin: do herbal teas count? http://www.finetings.com/sorrel%20tea.jpg
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20:00.24meflinyes
20:00.33meflinthe one I want to ice is a herbal
20:00.36MatthewWilkespigeonflight: That's a great domain name
20:00.57meflinits great hot .. and even better cold
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20:02.21meflinfairly sure I can't borrow a 6oz tea ball from the shop tho
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20:03.37meflinLisa ( owner of CapitolTea ) might be able to help me pull this one off tho
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20:04.45leanerWhat will happen if someone uninvited from gsoc show up at mentor summit?
20:04.57carolsleaner: uninvited? i don’t know what you mean
20:05.11carolswe don’t “uninvite” people in gsoc.
20:05.23meflinafter we mock them mercely ?
20:05.34carolsmeflin: do we do that? :-)
20:06.09meflinwell no but I might be bored :)
20:06.46MatthewWilkesmeflin: If you get bored then hack.
20:06.48carolsright :-)
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20:07.03meflinwell I do have a few things to patch up on my project
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20:09.52MatthewWilkesI remember one year when chatting to some other web projects about how we were all putting off migrating from Python 2.4 to 2.5 and we eventually decided to bite the bullet and sit in a room and upgrade all our code
20:10.10MatthewWilkesWe did Zope/Plone, Pylons and Turbogears
20:10.34meflinhave fun with 3.0 :)
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21:21.49meflincarols: critical hit .. no kettle from me
21:22.00carolsmeflin: that’s fine, thank you for trying
21:22.12MatthewWilkesAre kettles hard to find in the states?
21:23.14meflinnope
21:23.26carolsnot at all. i just already have enough to worry about in the days leading up to the reunion the last thing i need is to have to go to target to buy kettles
21:23.43meflinpermission tho ... I just took a boot to the head
21:23.56scorche|shlike i said, i'll bring mine (unless i forget it at the last moment)
21:24.16meflinscorche|sh: you are not allowed to forget now you are kettle prime
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21:25.35KolibriOS|yogevcarols: Our successful student from Ukraine just got GSoC T-shirt today. Does it mean that T-shirt shipping restrictions have been lifted off for all countries, or is it just for Ukraine, or was it even shipped by mistake?
21:25.47carolsKolibriOS|yogev: i have no idea.
21:25.56carolsyou’d have to email me the student’s name and address and i’d have to check
21:26.29KolibriOS|yogevcarols: I was just wondering whether he should return the T-shirt back to you since he wasn't supposed to get it :-)
21:26.42carolsi don’t know the answer to that question
21:26.48carolsif he’s concerned about it he needs to email me
21:26.52meflinshould not even if it shouldn't
21:28.07MatthewWilkescarols, meflin: Ah :)
21:29.06ollyif it's got to him OK, he probably shouldn't worry
21:29.22ollyAIUI, the issue was with customs being problematic in letting them in
21:29.25KolibriOS|yogevcarols: Actually I am the one that was concerned. Since most of our mentors and that one student are in the countries marked as "No T-shirt" on GSoC FAQ, I was planning to ask you to ship their T-shirts to me instead, so I can later ship to them myself. But if they already get them, then I don't need to do it.
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21:31.09carolsolly: in the time i’ve run this program i think the biggest lesson i’ve learned is people will worry whether or not they “should"
21:31.34ollyyou should have learned that!
21:31.51carolsKolibriOS|yogev: again, without knowing the student’s name and personal information i have no answer to this concern. so you can either email me with the personal details and i can look into it or we can call it moot
21:31.59carolsbut i can’t resolve it in irc without any information
21:32.11meflinand that info should not be on irc
21:32.18carolswhat meflin said
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21:32.47KolibriOS|yogevcarols: Sure, I will e-mail you his details. Just thought that you know about countries in general, since you probably was the person that wrote the FAQ.
21:33.06carolsthere’s lots of special cases that could have happened here
21:33.12carolswithout knowing the details i have no answer.
21:33.31gevaertsYou sound like a software developer looking at a bug report :)
21:33.42carols:-)
21:33.53meflinslaps gevaerts with a WONT FIX
21:33.56meflin:D
21:34.11NikolaiToryzinmeflin, WORKSFORME is the worst of em all
21:34.16gevaertsmeflin: but there was an error message!
21:34.36meflinbut not the worse error ... tea missing! ;)
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