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09:11.09hellaweI'm looking for funding for a project that Google has been willing to sponsor as a GSoC project (it's an FFmpeg project, on their GSoC wiki page), but I have (un?)fortunately just graduated, so I'm no longer eligible for GSoC funding. Does anyone know who at Google I should contact about this?
09:12.47PulkoMandyhttps://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/GSoC/2014 says "FFmpeg has not been accepted this year"
09:13.02PulkoMandyhow do you read that as "Google is willing to fund it" ?
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09:13.45hellaweI said "has been willing".
09:13.57hellaweThat's not present tense, but there's no harm in asking.
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09:14.57PulkoMandywell I'm not sure what you're trying to do here. Asking Google, "so, 3 years ago this project was in GSoC, but I'm not a student, would you pay me to work on it?"
09:15.08PulkoMandythey will answer that you are 3 years late, I fear
09:16.38hellaweI'm aware, but again, I'm asking about how to get a definitive yes/no from someone at Google.
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09:19.30teepee-hellawe: google funds GSoC students, not projects
09:19.33PulkoMandywell there is probably no freemoney@google.com. You don't fit GSoC rules, you don't even need to ask.
09:20.23teepee-hellawe: otherwise there is https://developers.google.com/open-source/ where you could ask I guess
09:21.08hellaweteepee-: Thanks, I already looked there, and the only contact info I saw was the press email address - was there something I missed?
09:21.23gevaertsIf you're going outside gsoc, I don't think google the people who manage gsoc can give you a definitive answer, as it's about different departments...
09:21.37gevaertsAnd if it's inside gsoc, the rules are clear
09:22.55hellaweI don't really mind if I get shunted to a different department, it's getting a hold of anyone that's proving difficult. Well, apart from individual developers, but I'd rather not spam them.
09:23.10teepee-hellawe: no idea, sorry. I just know it was mentioned in a more general context
09:24.55hellaweteepee-: Thanks for trying to help anyway. :)
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14:31.51Codicao/ guys
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14:34.02Codicawhat tangages would be best to know for the Code-In?
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16:20.14carolsserves some tea and coffee
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16:21.02meflinmm tea
16:21.27Niharikapours some coffee
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16:25.58downeythanks carols
16:26.03carolsyw downey
16:26.08carolsdowney: when do you get into town?
16:26.12downeyanyone here at linuxcon this week?
16:26.21downeycarols: thursday mid-day :)
16:26.28carolsdowney: are you kidding? doing a conference the week before my conference? :-)
16:26.36downeycarols: wahaha
16:26.36carolsdowney: ah, okay
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16:27.00meflinhmm where is linuxcon this year?
16:27.05downeymeflin: germany
16:27.17carolsgoing to conferences is stressful physically and mentally just during a normal course of the year, much less the week before holding the biggest event i’ve ever been in charge of :-)
16:27.29downeycarols: indeed :)
16:27.51meflinthe in charge of being the hardest part :)
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16:28.05sanadhi
16:28.07meflinI used to go insane getting 2 rooms for 30 ppl
16:28.10carolshi sanad
16:28.37downeyi'm still not believing that i did a hackathon, annual project conference, doc sprint, and mentor summit, all back to back last year :-(
16:28.58carolsdowney: strong constitution.
16:29.05downeycarols: strong caffeine.
16:29.10carolsthat too.
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16:29.59meflinwell MS will be easyer this year ... better tea ;) so conf up
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16:30.31carolsmeflin: easier? easier for who? :-)
16:30.32downeycarols: working on a public holiday??
16:30.44meflincarols: for downey :)
16:31.05downeyyes, definitely easier this year
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16:31.06downey:)
16:31.09meflinalso btw mission pitcher is solved
16:31.16carolsmeflin: i see :-)
16:31.21carolsdowney: public holiday?
16:31.24carolsnot for me...
16:31.36downeycarols: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Day
16:31.54carolsdowney: yeah, we don’t get that off :-)
16:31.57meflinso there will be at least 1 glass of iced :)
16:32.05downeyi should have known, no doodle ;-)
16:32.12carolsand besides, it’s 10 days to the reunion, i wouldn’t be taking a holiday even if i did have it off…
16:32.17downeyheh, true that
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16:32.40carolsdowney: also, how is columbus day still a thing? :-)
16:32.49downeyno clue. :(
16:32.52meflinno idea ... and it started here
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16:32.59downeymeflin: irc?
16:33.03meflindenver
16:33.08downeyhm
16:33.52downeymeflin: is it still there?
16:34.11meflinhmm not sure .. the parade has been off for a few years
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16:34.50meflinbut its back
16:35.18meflinoh and that is just awsome all the streets around my DC are closed
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16:41.27sanadhi
16:41.36carolshi sanad
16:41.53sanadi want help for gsoc
16:42.06carolssanad: sure. how can we help?
16:42.07Codicawhat languages would be great to know for a code-in?
16:42.19carolsCodica: it depends on the org you choose to do tasks for.
16:42.34carolsCodica: keep in mind code-in isn’t just coding, as well.
16:42.37Codicahmmm, what is the most commonly used language?
16:42.46downeyok kids, lunch time, i'll bring back the left-over pizza
16:42.52sanadi know basic python core java and basic html5 css3 and js...but i dont know how to go about gsoc
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16:43.04carolssanad: have you read the student manual yet?
16:43.10sanadno
16:43.10carolsthat’s a good place to start.
16:43.17carolssanad: then i recommend you do that first.
16:43.49sanadbut i have done much reasearch online the thing is the problem statements are advanced and im a beginner
16:43.53Codicawhen looking through a few tasks for code-in 2013 i saw the most important langauges being Python, HTML and CSS
16:44.17sanadi don't know how to make myself so advanced so i can qualify for gsoc 2015
16:44.34carolssanad: as i said, the place to start is to read the student manual.
16:44.46carolsyou’re welcome to choose not to do it, but that’s up to you. it’s my recommendation.
16:44.46sanadthe link
16:45.07carolssanad: was that a question?
16:45.15sanadyes
16:45.22carolssanad: what’s the question?
16:45.43sanadwhat is the link?
16:45.49sanadto student manual
16:45.54carolssanad: http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/
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16:46.16carolsit’s on our FAQs and on our blog as well, so i’d recommend you do some more general reading since it sounds like you haven’t done that yet.
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16:49.46carolsserves some more tea and coffee
16:51.46Codicaeats the tea happily
16:52.42meflinyou rely should brew that and drink it
16:53.25downeyHeh
16:55.06sanadthanks that helped!
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19:05.13carolsserves some more tea and coffee
19:06.50ademogluthanks a lot carols
19:06.53carolsyw
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19:12.51meflintea monday always needs more tea .. thanks
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19:18.32meflintasty tasty war
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21:22.48agaurav77just a question about gsoc
21:22.50agaurav77?
21:22.57agaurav77anyone?
21:23.40meflindont ask to ask
21:23.53terriagaurav77: what's the question?
21:23.59agaurav77okay:
21:24.15agaurav77so the applications start the next year
21:24.35agaurav77should i get in touch with mentoring organizations themselves
21:24.41agaurav77via mailing lists
21:24.51agaurav77or wait until registration starts
21:24.52agaurav77?
21:24.55meflinor how ever they communication
21:25.03meflinsooner is better
21:25.46terriagaurav77: the mentoring orgs probably don't have projects yet, but you should *definitely* go get to know them and get some first patches in as soon as possible.
21:27.46umcculloughno need to wait for them to provide project ideas anyway - you can come up with your own proposals ;)
21:27.53umcculloughand definitely get involved now
21:27.55terriagaurav77: Many of the orgs have "easy" or "beginner-friendly" bugs marked in their queues, so that's a good place to start.
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21:32.56agaurav77terri: are you still there?
21:33.05terriagaurav77: yup!
21:33.14agaurav77sorry, had a glitch
21:34.09terriit happens.  If you're looking for small bugs, I know openhatch has a search engine for them, but I don't know how many projects have listed themselves in it so it might not work for the projects you're interested in: http://openhatch.org/search/
21:34.43terriI found it really slow when I clicked, but it did work. :)
21:34.54agaurav77terri: thanks...
21:35.25terriagaurav77: you're welcome!  and good luck!
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21:46.49hornigahoi
21:47.17meflinand?
21:47.40gevaertsbhoi?
21:48.05hornigI am preparing my stuff for the gsoc mentors summit. I cannot find the page, where the activities during the summit are listed and what I have to "prepare" for it. could anyone send me the link again, please? :)
21:48.38meflinhttps://sites.google.com/site/gsocmentorsummitstudentreunion/home
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21:52.51hornigmeflin, thanks! :)
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22:00.15carolsanyone showing up early for the reunion?
22:00.29carolsor is everyone showing up on thursday?
22:00.40meflinfirst time not early for me
22:00.45gevaertsSounds like you're looking for volunteers :)
22:01.04carolsnope, we’ve got 11 volunteers, we‘re actually fine on that front :-)
22:01.08hornigI will arrive on thursday 2pm at the airport and then trying to find my way to the hotel :)
22:01.16meflinwaves
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22:01.23carolsi just thought someone might want to have lunch with me at the hotel before the chaos ensues
22:01.34carolshornig: good luck :-)
22:01.41meflin1-2pm for me :\
22:01.48carolsthe public transportation to these hotels is much better than it was for the wild palms
22:01.58meflinno it isn't
22:02.08hornigcarols, thanks :). first time in SF, so I have no clue how long this will take :D
22:02.15meflinWP is just a quick buss $2
22:03.02carolshornig: are you flying into sfo?
22:03.24hornigyep, comming from Amsterdam NL and landing there
22:03.55carolshornig: it takes a while from sfo. you’ll have to take bart/caltrain and then either a taxi or light rail. but it’s right off the sj light rail stop
22:04.59hornigI think we will take a taxi. me and my other org's member will arrive with the same plane. but I will put that info to my personl notes :).
22:05.16carolsit’s all on the reunion website, so hopefully that helps :-)
22:06.07hornigyeah, I am currently checking for that, so that I have everything with me. it is my first time attending this, so I just want to be sure that in case we have to present our org or bring local chocolate, we have it with us :)
22:06.23carolshornig: good luck :-) i’m sure you’ll be fine
22:06.28carolswe look forward to having you
22:06.34downeyno lunch for me, arriving around 3-ish :)
22:06.39carolsoh well
22:06.48carolsi’ll just keep myself entertained in that case.
22:08.06hornigthanks carols! it's a pleasure! :) and we have some noce things to show (2 videos from our two projects, two papers we had at the International Astronautical Congress, and some other things, that we did during gsoc2014!) :)
22:08.29carolscool! i’m sure the attendees will enjoy seeing those.
22:08.34downeyalso, thanks for booking a hotel with zipcar spaces nearby :)
22:08.56carolsdowney: you’re welcome. we certainly made up for it in the amount of money we’re spending on food at this hotel...
22:09.10carolsi’ve heard the speakeasy nearby the hotel is very good too
22:09.17downeymakes a note of it
22:09.20carolshopefully we can peel off there at some point
22:09.38downeygoogles for a barber shop near the reunion
22:09.45hornigI hope the official hotel has us on their lists. I couldn't find any email confrmation so far. but I think it's not a big deal :).
22:10.06carolshornig: did you call and ask?
22:10.18carolsdowney: haha, we could get haircuts again ;-)
22:10.30gevaertsHaircuts are overrated
22:11.34downeygevaerts: not when there's beer involved
22:11.39meflinI've been told I need a trim to my hair and beard
22:11.46meflinnot doing it ...
22:12.19downeymaybe there will be a haircut track on the schedule
22:12.29carolsdowney: i already got my cut for the reunion
22:12.30carolsoh well
22:13.07meflinoh so we should all critique ?   ;)
22:13.10downeyi always look forward to the "sit and do nothing for 1 hour" session
22:13.35downeyReunion Rule No. 42: Do not touch other people's hair without permission.
22:13.55downeyReunion Rule No. 44: Do not cut other people's hair without permission.
22:13.57meflindowney: that is like rule of life 1 .. do not touch ppl without permission
22:14.04downeymeflin: one would think
22:14.10gevaertsdowney: if they leave it behind, does that imply permission?
22:14.16meflinone would think
22:14.40downeygevaerts: the hair? I think there's a law about abandoned property in California, you'd have to check
22:14.59gevaertsdowney: it might also come under littering laws I think
22:15.05gevaertsHard to be sure
22:15.23carolsmeflin: i agree. that’s why i cut my purple hair off
22:15.26downeygevaerts: Check the policy for things like appendix removal, etc
22:15.31carolspeople kept touching it without asking
22:15.48umcculloughabandoned hair - is that like littering?
22:15.56gevaertscarols: you could claim you now dyed it invisible
22:16.02carolsgevaerts: true
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22:16.11meflincarols: I cant even speek the hate
22:16.17carolsmeflin: yeah.
22:16.25carolsi got sick of it after 5 years.
22:16.33carolsit was particularly bad at conferences.
22:16.38gevaertsAlthough of course you're probably contractually bound not to mention the invisibility paint google is working on :)
22:16.54carols:-)
22:16.59downeyone could always use slow-drying purple paint that would get all over the toucher's hands >:-)
22:17.07downeyor glue
22:17.20carolsright, so that would mean i have to have glue in my hair.
22:17.27downeyyeah maybe not so much
22:17.29carolsand it’s the other people who are doing wrong.
22:17.29meflinor we could make real light saberes and cut off the hands that touch the hair
22:17.32gevaertsdowney: annoying when you lean against things
22:17.34carolsso i cut it off.
22:17.41downeywas never so great at chemistry
22:17.45carolsit’s gone now, no need to worry about it further
22:17.47NikolaiToryzincarols: I've heard about your purple hair.
22:18.01NikolaiToryzinShame it doesn't exist anymore.
22:18.08carolsNikolaiToryzin: there are many pictures of it online if you want to see it.
22:18.14carolsNikolaiToryzin: shame people felt they had a right to touch it without asking me.
22:18.18gevaertsthinks hair touching can be tolerated from young children, but adults should have grown up
22:18.28hornigcarols: I couldn't find the "session topics". are they already on?
22:18.30downeyanyway, the real question is, will the summit be in Switzerland next year?
22:18.30NikolaiToryzincarols: Will we at least have a 21 gun salute for it?
22:18.36carolshornig: they’re all on the moderator page.
22:18.44carolsNikolaiToryzin: no.
22:18.50meflingevaerts: you would be surprised what ppl feal like they are entitaled to touch
22:19.34carolsdowney: no. in fact, i think the summit is going to be significantly smaller next year
22:19.47carolsthe lack of interest in this year’s event makes it clear we can’t support big productions
22:19.49downeyi'd hope so, since it's not the 10-year reunion :)
22:19.57downeyit'd dilute the specialness :)
22:20.14gevaertsmeflin: I know. I keep getting surprised by all sorts of things people feel they're entitled to
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22:22.20terricarols: my sympathies on the unwanted hair touching.  I had the same problem when mine was waist-length
22:22.38carolsterri: yeah.
22:22.48downey*sigh* humans.
22:23.41terridoes kind of want to put some colour in hers before mentor summit. I'm going from there directly to the W3C meetings and I'm sure I'll be so much more professional with rainbow hair. ;)
22:24.23downeycarols: there seems to have been a cameo of sttaylor during the linuxcon keynote slides today
22:24.37carolsdowney: oh?
22:24.39carolshow so?
22:24.44carolsi think she’s in arizona right now...
22:24.50downeyi noticed her in the background of a photo on a slide
22:24.58carolshuh
22:25.01carolsi wonder what it was
22:25.06carolsi’m sure she’d be interested to hear that
22:25.21terriwe have a whole pile of rainbow hair chalk from warthog9's rainbow dash costume at linuxcon chicago, so maybe we could share some temporary hair colour at mentor summit. ;)
22:25.39warthog9piles of it
22:25.45carolsi’m sure ruaok would love that
22:25.53warthog9and why am I not asleep, it's like stupid o'clock in Dusseldorf
22:26.02meflinTWAPS warthog9
22:26.17meflinyou are on other continents and should be sleeping
22:26.33downeycarols: background of one of my doc sprint team photos, used without permission o.O
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22:26.47carolsdowney: man, the linux folks recently...
22:26.50downeywarthog9: i blame the celebrating
22:26.52terriwarthog9: you're not asleep because you need to incorporate for the hackerspace
22:27.03warthog9ohhh right
22:27.15carolsdowney: what was the context? why was the person talking about doc sprint?
22:27.37downeycarols: the person was talking about the person in the foreground of the photo
22:27.47carolsdowney: oh. i see :-)
22:27.49downeywarthog9: is k9 attending linuxcon?
22:28.11terriwe have baby k9 this year!
22:28.14terrishe's steampunk!
22:28.16warthog9downey, I'd rather bring the puppy, but if carols really wants the big one I'll figure it out
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22:28.44downeywarthog9: those hotels are usually carpeted pretty solid
22:28.47carolscarols honestly has no opinion, she’s going to be so stressed to the gills and busy with other stuff she probably wont’ even have a chance to see it.
22:29.03warthog9offers tea to carols
22:29.14carolsthanks warthog9. more useful would be whiskey during the event
22:29.16carols;-)
22:29.22meflinhmm never seen k9 roll
22:29.25warthog9carols: that can be arranged
22:29.33terricarols: ther'es space for whiskey in the puppy case. ;)
22:29.39carolshooray :-)
22:29.56hornig:D
22:29.59terriisn't sure what's going go in there. probably don't need the whole button machine and my spare robot like last time I travelled with it
22:30.32downeyhmm, there IS a new distillery across from my office
22:30.49NikolaiToryzinYou mentor summit veterans make it sound like the least formal thing I've ever heard of.
22:30.59carolsNikolaiToryzin: that’s because it is.
22:31.01downeyNikolaiToryzin: it's less
22:31.07umcculloughwhy would it be formal? :)
22:31.07NikolaiToryzinWell
22:31.12carolswhat umccullough said
22:31.15NikolaiToryzinI mean it's like whiskey and dogs
22:31.19carolsyep!
22:31.22NikolaiToryzinThat's a new
22:31.24carolsand chocoalte and tea
22:31.26umcculloughwell, whisky would be fantastic!
22:31.31terrirobot dogs, if that makes you feel better
22:31.34carolsno shedding
22:31.39NikolaiToryzinCant tell if conference or multi-day party
22:31.44umcculloughdifference?
22:31.46carolswhy not both?
22:31.46umccullough:D
22:31.48NikolaiToryzinLol
22:31.51downeydefinitely both
22:31.55downey"family reunion"
22:32.05carolssurely it can be both.
22:32.08carolsat least, that’s the only type of event i would want to run.
22:32.10NikolaiToryzinI suppose so
22:32.23NikolaiToryzinThis is slightly influencing the clothes I bring
22:32.28umcculloughfwiw, most business conferences i've been to for my company usually involve lots of liquor at lunches and dinners with prospective clients :P
22:32.49umcculloughjust wear clothes...
22:32.55umcculloughthat's sort of a requirement i think
22:32.59carolsNikolaiToryzin: remember we’ll have the tech museum event you’re expected to dress up for!
22:33.06carolsthe rest of the time though is casual
22:33.12downeypro tip: http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/how-to-pack-a-suit/2
22:33.40terridon't forget to bring a swimsuit.  and possibly a rugby ball, because apparently one needs that for the hot tub. ;)
22:33.44carolsNikolaiToryzin: you’ll feel very out of place if you spend the weekend in slacks and button downs
22:34.09umcculloughterri, hopefully not everyone will have their own ball :P
22:34.21downeyif the hoodies are distributed upon arrival, that means i can pack less :)
22:34.30NikolaiToryzincarols: Gotcha, I'm used to stuff like CES where every other person is an Asian businessman or press guy in jeans.
22:34.35terriumccullough: no, but I think Arc did run out to buy one because he couldn't pass up the opportunity.
22:34.35carolsdowney: they are. assuming you filled out the form for one :-)
22:34.42carolsNikolaiToryzin: that is not this event.
22:34.51terrikind of wishes she had a ball gown to wear in the middle of the most casual parts of mentor summit now
22:34.54downeycarols: i think so, i feel like i filled All The Forms
22:34.54NikolaiToryzincarols: I'm learning.
22:34.56carolsi would be embarassed to run an event like that.
22:34.59carolsi wouldn’t want to attend it
22:35.05carolsdowney: you most likely did
22:35.13downeyi've worn a suit jacket 3 times this year so far, this will be 4th
22:35.27meflinI still need pants
22:35.33downeymeflin: yes. yes you do.
22:35.42downeymeflin: and trousers too, please.
22:35.47NikolaiToryzinPersonally, you guys should really find a better word than unconfrence. Celebration perhaps
22:35.47scorche|shvests are lighter to pack - i think i will opt that route..
22:36.09downeyscorche|sh: ooh, good idea. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h64/mooniteman/Picture22.png
22:36.11NikolaiToryzinTeastravaganza?
22:36.29terrimeflin: maybe I should make a rule that all the python people need to wear kilts. ;)
22:36.32carolsNikolaiToryzin: i dont know…i search “unconference” on google i see a lot of pictures of people in jeans and tshirts all sitting around comfortably
22:36.38scorche|shdowney: not that type of vest  ;)
22:36.40carolsthat’s pretty much what this event is
22:36.49downeyscorche|sh: i guess that's a "life preserver"
22:37.01meflinterri: only if you can find me a nice black kilt ... if so .. Its on
22:37.21downeycarols: i hope the san francisco people don't have to commute each day
22:37.32carolsdowney: you mean my team?
22:37.40carolsdowney: or you mean mentors?
22:37.52terrimeflin: what's your size?  I can probably get a utilikilt in this town. ;)
22:37.52downeycarols: your team, chris's team, whoever
22:37.59carolsdowney: we’ll all be in the hotel all weekend
22:38.03carolsi have an executive suite
22:38.05meflinterri: large?
22:38.20meflinshould I drop my pants and ask them?
22:38.25carolsmeflin: sigh.
22:38.28carolssigh sigh sigh.
22:38.42carolsmeflin: let’s get off the topic of your pants, yes?
22:38.48meflindone
22:38.51carolsexcellent.
22:39.02downeyif someone wants to spend lots of money and have a geeky sport coat, check out http://www.scottevest.com/v3_store/SeV-Sportcoat.shtml
22:39.15carolsdowney: that’s a super nice coat.
22:39.18downeylook "formal" and still carry 23+ gadgets
22:40.16terriI am *so* sad they don't have those in women's sizes.  I think it would be hilarious
22:40.23carolsterri: agreed
22:40.31carolsi would like one in a nice fitted women’s size
22:40.57downeyi guess there's http://www.scottevest.com/v3_store/Lucy_Cardigan.shtml but only 4 pockets :(
22:41.02terriI've been trying to find a tailor who can alter scottevest stuff to fit me better, but no luck yet.  most of the tailors for sport coats specialise in men
22:41.20terridowney: the best one for women is the Chloe hoodies.  I have two. :)
22:41.33terribut they aren't very formal
22:41.41terrieven the one with the rhinestones in the zipper. ;)
22:42.51carolsterri: i love it! i definitely need one
22:43.59terricarols: it's great!  although I did nearly blind myself with all the sparkles from my zipper on a plane once.  it was like a disco when I opened the window.
22:44.19carolsterri: i guess there are worse problems in the world to have.
22:45.18terricarols: indeed!  at least it was pretty, if a bit overly bright!
22:45.36NikolaiToryzinterri: Reminds me of the time when light reflected off my watch in to someone's eye on a plane.
22:45.48NikolaiToryzinActually happened 2 days ago.
22:48.33terriNikolaiToryzin: huh, I've had that happen with a tablet but not my watch.  perhaps something to worry about now that I have this giant android watch thing!
22:49.14NikolaiToryzinterri: Is it a Moto 360? Mines the most reflective device I own after my bathroo
22:49.19NikolaiToryzinBsthroo
22:49.22NikolaiToryzinMirror.
22:49.28NikolaiToryzinGosh, I can't type today.
22:49.33downeyfwiw, as android watches go, the moto 360 reflects much worse than the samsung gear live
22:50.27terridowney: that has been my experience too
22:50.41terribut the moto 360 doesn't leave marks on my wrist every day, so it's the one I'm wearing right now
22:50.52downeyi had a gear live but my wife "stole it" :-P
22:50.58NikolaiToryzinMy 360 hurts my wrist after a day ;-;
22:51.05NikolaiToryzinMight be the metal band though.
22:51.17terriyeah, i have the leather-ish one
22:51.23downeyyou got a metal band already?
22:51.42NikolaiToryzinPicked up the metal band from the pebble for $20, fits perfect
22:51.48downeyah yes
22:51.56downeyforgot about that as an option
22:52.01terriI've had a bit more trouble with the 360 freezing, but I figure another android update will solve it.  it's already noticeably better than when I got it.
22:52.30NikolaiToryzinAndroid wear has stopped responding is the funnest thing
22:52.43downeypatches welcome :)
22:52.52downey(although i'm not sure how to contribute to android wear TBH)
22:53.28NikolaiToryzindowney: afaik it isn't FOSS yet
22:53.44NikolaiToryzinThe sdk is but you can't actually compile it
22:53.58terriI'm going to play with apps instead, anyhow.  I want to get some html5 circular stuff working.  that would be fun.
22:54.42downeyapparently under the tag 'android-4.4w_r1'
22:54.52downeywill be interesting to see who carols snagged for the googler track
22:55.04carolsdowney: you’ll just have to wait and be surprised.
22:55.17downeyi'm unhealthily patient
22:55.30carolsi feel confident most people are going to like the speakers at the tech museum on friday night.
22:55.42downeylarry ellison?
22:55.51downeyhopes that didn't just get him banned
22:56.13meflindowney: I am not an op here so ... so far no
22:56.21downey:-)
22:57.02carolsnope, not larry ellison
22:57.04carols:-)
22:58.08downeyas long as it's not marc benioff without shoes ... that was the strangest talk i've been to this year so far
22:58.20downeymarc benioff without shoes & will.i.am
22:58.29carolsthat does sound strange.
22:58.46downeyit was uncomfortable
22:58.51terridowney: the only thing that would be weirder is if he ate stuff off his foot, like in that video with rms
22:58.53meflinnot as werid as the microsoft CEO
22:59.08downeyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9game7zd3To for those super bored
23:00.20downeyterri: yeah that was pretty bad
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