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| 01:20.27 | PsyCode | Is it just me or is nobody chatting? Ive never used Irc before |
| 01:23.06 | jakep | PsyCode: thats how irc works |
| 01:23.11 | jakep | lots of idling and very little talking |
| 01:23.23 | PsyCode | jakep: Ahh I see |
| 01:23.30 | PsyCode | Just not a lot of activity here |
| 01:23.34 | jakep | sit around for a while, something is bound to happen |
| 01:23.41 | jakep | well you`ve been here for under 10 minutes |
| 01:23.50 | jakep | that is hardly enough time to make any sort of claim about activity |
| 01:24.08 | PsyCode | jakep: True, I should have guessed as much :/ |
| 01:24.35 | jakep | most people just leave irc open and look at it sometimes when bored |
| 01:25.09 | PsyCode | jakep: OK, I really had no idea how much activity there would be here since this is my first time with irc |
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| 01:27.01 | olly | it'll probably be more lively in the next few days |
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| 01:31.59 | TheOneID | anyone knows when can i register for GSC? |
| 01:36.41 | olly | TheOneID: there's a timeline on the website |
| 01:40.15 | umccullough | i always find it interesting how people unaccustomed to IRC expect it to be |
| 01:40.58 | umccullough | i blame IM and social media |
| 01:41.07 | umccullough | and testing... |
| 01:41.09 | umccullough | texting |
| 01:41.46 | TheOneID | GCI starts 2morrow, but i cant understand how can i register |
| 01:42.15 | umccullough | you wait till tomorrow i think |
| 01:42.42 | umccullough | and then visit google-melange.com to register |
| 01:43.58 | TheOneID | Thanks |
| 01:44.47 | TheOneID | and what you mean about the IRC expectation? |
| 01:46.24 | umccullough | referring to PsyCode above - where the expectation is that you join and people are just chatting away :) |
| 01:46.34 | umccullough | you missed it |
| 01:46.39 | umccullough | you joined after-the-fact |
| 01:50.59 | TheOneID | True Story! (y) |
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| 01:56.14 | olly | umccullough: I often go for weeks without getting a text |
| 02:14.29 | Evan_M | Yeah, IRC is lots of idling |
| 02:15.57 | Evan_M | Oh wow, I missed the conversation by half an hour |
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| 02:21.34 | TheOneID_ | Actually...I dont understand why people is like that on IRC. |
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| 02:42.57 | umccullough | olly, same, but i don't really use a cell phone much either ;) |
| 02:43.15 | umccullough | it mostly sits on my desk as calendar appointment reminder |
| 02:43.26 | umccullough | buzzing when i have a meeting coming up |
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| 02:44.46 | olly | "time to hide" |
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| 10:41.29 | lokeshw24 | Hi, I'm enthu to apply for gsoc'15. I've one doubt:how strong should be one's command over the language of one's project? |
| 10:41.44 | lokeshw24 | My lang domains are : C++/Python |
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| 10:42.13 | lokeshw24 | I know basics of both, but not to advanced level. |
| 10:42.32 | mkletzan | lokeshw24: the better you are the better chance you have to be selected |
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| 10:42.41 | lokeshw24 | So I want to focus on one lang & learn more about it in this month |
| 10:44.39 | rajul | lokeshw24, definitely your command on the language is going to be important.....however through my participation in GSoC twice as a student.....i have learnt that there is quite some time for you to get the hang of advanced concepts.... |
| 10:45.22 | lokeshw24 | mkletzan: Yes. |
| 10:46.20 | PulkoMandy | all people entering GSoC are students, as a mentor I don't expect students to know everything about the language and project they are applying for |
| 10:46.24 | rajul | even if you don't know them.......i mean you will need to be conversant with basic language constructs and features....i dont' think you can learn the language from scratch and work with it all in one GSoC duration....but dont let you not knowing everything about a language hold you from applying to the project if you find it interesting enough :) |
| 10:46.28 | lokeshw24 | rajul: You mean to say I should start working on finding the organization, fixing bugs etc rather than sharpening the lang. ( Actually this is what my seniors advised me, who did Gsoc last year ) |
| 10:47.00 | rajul | lokeshw24, yes exactly.....you will be able to get the hang of it while working on bugs and projects..... |
| 10:47.25 | lokeshw24 | rajul: Yeah :) |
| 10:47.35 | PulkoMandy | there is another advantage to this |
| 10:47.50 | PulkoMandy | if you spend one year learning C++ on your own, at the end you don't have much to show |
| 10:48.00 | rajul | lokeshw24, but working will help you gain insight and intuitiveness in software design and development which is integral to GSoC.... |
| 10:48.08 | PulkoMandy | if you work on an open source project, at the end you have lots of patches and contributions to show |
| 10:48.30 | PulkoMandy | and you also get people to review those and tell you how they can be improved |
| 10:48.52 | PulkoMandy | this is much faster than discovering the issues by yourself, then trying to discover the best way to fix them |
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| 10:49.20 | lokeshw24 | rajul, PulkoMandy : Yeah, agree with both of you. |
| 10:49.22 | rajul | and also as PulkoMandy suggests.....definitely getting some work under your belt always helps :) |
| 10:49.43 | PulkoMandy | and whatever you do, there is no way you can fully master C++ in just one year anyway. I learnt a lot about it when I was a student in 2009 and I still discover some new things and subtleties today |
| 10:50.08 | lokeshw24 | PulkoMandy: True, same for me! |
| 10:50.32 | PulkoMandy | and anyway, no open source project uses the whole range of features used by C++, so you don't need to know everything about it |
| 10:50.54 | PulkoMandy | better join one or two projects and see how they make use of the language to solve real-world problems |
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| 10:51.57 | unicodesnow | who's doing GCI2014? :) |
| 10:52.34 | lokeshw24 | PulkoMandy: Hmmm, yes, will go by this approach. Was feeling a bit hesitant before, but thanks to you and rajul. |
| 10:52.43 | lokeshw24 | Now feeling a bit confident :) |
| 10:56.11 | PulkoMandy | I think every open source project appreciates getting new contributors and they will do their best to help you. If you feel they don't, just try another project, there's not much risk of anything bad happening I think |
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| 13:40.34 | UrsWeGo | .3 and half hours left.... Hello everybody! |
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| 13:40.52 | someplace | ssh, don't break the silence |
| 13:41.41 | VarunAgw | !next |
| 13:41.42 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "next" is December 1, 2014, 9:00 AM Pacific Time / 17:00 UTC: Contest opens for entries by student participants |
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| 14:23.01 | npcwarrior | Registration starts in an hour |
| 14:23.39 | npcwarrior | Unfortunately for us here in China it is approaching 10:30 :( |
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| 14:26.45 | PulkoMandy | it's hard to pick an hour that's daytime for everyone around the world |
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| 14:33.28 | UrsWeGo | npcwarrior: In Ukraine is 17:30. )) |
| 14:36.35 | npcwarrior | PulkoMandy: I understand, I'm just excited :) |
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| 14:37.35 | egypcio | npcwarrior: 22:30, you mean? |
| 14:37.46 | egypcio | here is 11:37 (brazil). |
| 14:38.11 | npcwarrior | egypcio: Correct, it is 10 PM here in China |
| 14:40.03 | gevaerts | It's too cloudy here for my sundial to work, so I don't know what time it is here |
| 14:40.06 | UrsWeGo | egypcio: npcwarrior: with what organizations you going to work? |
| 14:40.20 | UrsWeGo | gevaerts: )) |
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| 14:42.49 | npcwarrior | UrsWeGo: Good question... |
| 14:43.25 | npcwarrior | UrsWeGo: The gamer in me likes CopyLeft, but I also really support WIkimedia |
| 14:44.11 | Evan_M | I'm planning on working with Wikimedia |
| 14:44.23 | npcwarrior | UrsWeGo: I'm also looking at BRL-CAD it looked interesting, and being around a lot of ASians (I go to an international school in CHina) FOSS also appeals |
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| 14:46.15 | npcwarrior | Evan_M: Ounds good, any particular reason? |
| 14:49.37 | Evan_M | npcwarrior: Well, out of all the organizations, the ones that really interested me were Apertium, Copyleft, Haiku, and Wikimedia. I narrowed it down from there, and eventually decided to focus on Wikimedia |
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| 14:50.26 | UrsWeGo | ) |
| 14:50.49 | npcwarrior | Evan_M: Thanks, I;m still very indecisive. I'm probably considering every organization I looked at. How did you narrow it down? |
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| 14:56.14 | Evan_M | npcwarrior: It's kinda difficult to explain, but I tried to choose the org where I feel like I would be most comfortable from a tech standpoint. I've been working a lot with web-based stuff lately, and I remember doing a little with Wikimedia last year, so I just kinda decided. |
| 14:56.49 | Evan_M | npcwarrior: I didn't really go with Copyleft because gamedev, while really fun, is also really exhausting |
| 14:58.21 | npcwarrior | Evan_M: This is my first GCI, it WILL BE my fist time doing any real coding project; I got a lot to learn. |
| 14:58.48 | Evan_M | npcwarrior: Haha yeah, last year was my first time and I felt really lost then |
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| 15:00.49 | npcwarrior | Evan_M: You're telling me, I looked at some stuff on BRL_CAD andmy jaw hit the fllor, I;'m definately starting with documentation till i learn how to write this stuff; It'll be a good learning expireince though |
| 15:01.15 | Evan_M | npcwarrior: Yeah, that's how I felt last year, it's kinda crazy |
| 15:01.42 | Evan_M | npcwarrior: Anyway, my web dev class is ending, so I gotta go. See you later! |
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| 15:30.51 | UrsWeGo | hm... registration is closed |
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| 15:36.13 | UrsWeGo | Question: Can I upload only scan one page of Parental consent form? (were my parents signed it) |
| 15:39.21 | Slurpee | UrsWeGo, gci hasn't started yet |
| 15:39.28 | Slurpee | little more than 1 hour to go |
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| 15:42.54 | UrsWeGo | Slurpee: I know, but someone sad to me that registration will be open on an hour earlier. |
| 15:43.15 | PulkoMandy | they were wrong |
| 15:43.32 | UrsWeGo | i see) |
| 15:45.32 | Silenced | guys could someone tell me what is GCI ? |
| 15:46.00 | Silenced | I am new to GSoC |
| 15:46.25 | TieSoul | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2014/about_page |
| 15:46.31 | UrsWeGo | GCI - Google code-in |
| 15:47.19 | UrsWeGo | It`s something like GSoC but for peoples age of 13-17 |
| 15:47.34 | TieSoul | I think it's also a lot shorter |
| 15:47.56 | PulkoMandy | it's shorter and focused on smaller tasks |
| 15:48.17 | UrsWeGo | Yes and in GCI there no money in prizes |
| 15:48.32 | Silenced | oh ! |
| 15:48.38 | Silenced | Thanks guys ! |
| 15:48.57 | PulkoMandy | GCI is a contest with prizes, GSoC is a summer job |
| 15:49.59 | brlcad | npcwarrior: there's absolutely nothing wrong with starting with docs ;) |
| 15:50.22 | brlcad | a lot of our tasks *sound* hard but really are not |
| 15:50.48 | brlcad | getting set up is usually the most work :) |
| 15:50.53 | gevaerts | So don't read them out loud and they'll be easier :) |
| 15:51.08 | brlcad | :) |
| 15:51.13 | Guest56806 | hmm |
| 15:51.18 | UrsWeGo | gevaerts: so dont do it and it will be easier |
| 15:51.22 | Guest56806 | :D |
| 15:51.27 | UrsWeGo | XD |
| 15:51.35 | gevaerts | UrsWeGo: yes, but then you don't get points! |
| 15:51.42 | Guest56806 | just give someone else a chance |
| 15:51.48 | gevaerts | And being pointy is what it's all about. No smooth spheres here! |
| 15:51.59 | UrsWeGo | gevaerts: it`s another side of problem |
| 15:52.13 | npcwarrior | brlcad: It sounds like a great way to learn; I'm excited. But I definaetly hope to get into coding quicker. Documentaion is great but I love coding because you get to create something appable. |
| 15:52.29 | npcwarrior | *pappable |
| 15:52.35 | npcwarrior | *palpable |
| 15:52.41 | gevaerts | UrsWeGo: or are you sneakily trying to discourage competitors? ;) |
| 15:52.41 | UrsWeGo | 1h 7m are left |
| 15:52.46 | Guest56806 | nice |
| 15:52.55 | TieSoul | yup, I'm pretty excited |
| 15:53.08 | UrsWeGo | gevaerts: how did you guess it? |
| 15:53.24 | TieSoul | UrsWeGo: it's in your best interest if you want to win :P |
| 15:53.29 | TieSoul | to discourage others |
| 15:53.47 | TieSoul | but also somewhat immoral |
| 15:53.52 | PulkoMandy | npcwarrior: just try writing some code. There are mentors to help and that sounds like a good way to get started |
| 15:54.02 | Guest56806 | can i load parent consent and school proof by taking a photo on camera? |
| 15:54.32 | PulkoMandy | TieSoul: well, that's why the number of points can only get you in the top ten for an org, then the mentors from the org pick the finalists from there |
| 15:54.33 | UrsWeGo | TieSoul: You are right, is my best interest if you going to work with Drupal |
| 15:54.48 | npcwarrior | guest56806: I belive you have to scan them or have them electronically from the get go |
| 15:54.54 | PulkoMandy | if you have been annoying during the contest trying to block other students, you are unlikely to be in the finalist list |
| 15:55.28 | PulkoMandy | Guest56806: as long as it is readable, it should be ok |
| 15:55.37 | brlcad | npcwarrior: I suggest starting with one of our header breakup tasks, or dead code elimination, when you get started with coding |
| 15:55.42 | Guest56806 | thanks |
| 15:56.01 | brlcad | breaking up a header into a bunch of smaller headers isn't hard at all, right? :) |
| 15:56.36 | npcwarrior | brlcad: You lost me; headers, dead code, breakup tasks? |
| 15:56.37 | TieSoul | so, is there any form I can download for the parental consent thing? |
| 15:56.44 | brlcad | picking one of our "compile brl-cad using XXX compiler" is another good place to start even before that |
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| 15:57.02 | npcwarrior | TieSoul: On the GCI website under downloads |
| 15:57.27 | npcwarrior | TieSou: You can download in any languagel |
| 15:57.53 | npcwarrior | brldcad: I am downloading the Virtual machine |
| 15:57.57 | brlcad | npcwarrior: you don't yet see all our tasks yet (soon...) but there are a couple tasks that involve breaking up large C header files into smaller separate header files, no logic needs to get written, you're just moving declarations into new files and adding a #include |
| 15:58.29 | brlcad | npcwarrior: cool, be sure to run "svn update" on the brlcad source dir in there... it's got to pull a lot of updates |
| 15:58.47 | Guest56806 | has someone ever been doing tasks for Apartium, i have some questions.. |
| 15:59.03 | npcwarrior | br;dcad: I've only worked a little with c++, is C similar or should I be reaing in to specifically-C tutorials |
| 15:59.06 | npcwarrior | ? |
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| 16:00.24 | TieSoul | so do I only need to scan the relevant page of the parental consent form? |
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| 16:00.37 | TieSoul | I would guess that'd be okay right? |
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| 16:01.01 | Guest56806 | i took a photo for all pages :3 |
| 16:01.04 | jrullman | 1 hour! |
| 16:01.13 | Guest56806 | yeaa |
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| 16:01.30 | npcwarrior | Can I have the parental consent for signed digitally wih an pdf editor or do I need to upload a handwritten signature |
| 16:01.41 | jrullman | you can have it digitally signed |
| 16:01.56 | jrullman | at least, i had it digitally signed last year |
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| 16:02.38 | Guest56806 | jrullman: did you win? |
| 16:02.48 | TieSoul | this is my first year, and next year is the last year I can participate |
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| 16:02.58 | TieSoul | after that, I'll be in university, but not 18 or older |
| 16:03.03 | TieSoul | so I can't even do GSoC then |
| 16:03.09 | TieSoul | which sucks |
| 16:03.18 | Guest56806 | TieSoul: go to Google Code Jam :D |
| 16:03.28 | TieSoul | I guess Code Jam would work |
| 16:03.30 | TieSoul | : |
| 16:03.33 | TieSoul | :P* |
| 16:03.40 | UrsWeGo | TieSoul: i have the same story |
| 16:04.02 | binaryking | Code Jam is completely different from GCI |
| 16:04.08 | TieSoul | I know |
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| 16:05.03 | UrsWeGo | TieSoul: where are you from? |
| 16:05.14 | jrullman | Guest56806: I did not win |
| 16:05.36 | Guest56806 | jrullman: how much did you finish tasks? |
| 16:06.21 | Guest56806 | guys, is it have a point if i sent a scan of school document (but it's student id of my college) and it's in my language (ukrainian) |
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| 16:07.05 | UrsWeGo | Guest56806: ß èç Êèåâà. Áûë òîò æå âîïðîñ)) |
| 16:07.47 | Guest56806 | UrsWeGo: i've got symbols that i can't read sorry)) |
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| 16:08.30 | PulkoMandy | Guest56806: I'm not sure for GCI, but if it is the same as for GSoC you can provide that and a text with a translation of it to help Google people check what it reads |
| 16:08.40 | UrsWeGo | Guest56806: I am from Kiev. And I asked the same question a hour ago |
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| 16:09.12 | Guest56806 | UrsWeGo: hmm. i'm from Kiev too :D do you have a vk acc? |
| 16:09.28 | UrsWeGo | Guest56806: ) https://vk.com/ursul.wego |
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| 16:27.38 | TieSoul | UrsWeGo: I'm from the Netherlands |
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| 16:27.44 | TieSoul | I sure answered that quickly. |
| 16:27.52 | UrsWeGo | TieSoul: ) |
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| 16:32.36 | ThijsRay | TieSoul: Hello fellow Dutchman! |
| 16:32.42 | TieSoul | Whoa! |
| 16:32.48 | TieSoul | Your name is Thijs? |
| 16:32.50 | Guest56806 | 30 mins left :3 |
| 16:32.52 | TieSoul | My name is also Thijs! |
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| 16:32.58 | ThijsRay | :) |
| 16:32.59 | TieSoul | Such a cool coincidence. |
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| 16:33.09 | TieSoul | (actually, my username is a pun on my real name) |
| 16:33.35 | ThijsRay | Some people like to call me Ties ;) |
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| 16:34.40 | TieSoul | You know, it's not often that I find someone with the same name as me online |
| 16:35.16 | ThijsRay | Thijs is a pretty common name in the Netherlands though. |
| 16:35.29 | TieSoul | Yeah |
| 16:35.45 | TieSoul | I don't really go to the 'Dutch section of the internet' though :) |
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| 16:36.20 | TieSoul | and it's not as common here in Drenthe |
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| 16:36.33 | TieSoul | closest you're gonna get here is Thies :P |
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| 16:37.12 | ThijsRay | I know like 5 people with the name Thijs/Ties/Tijs. |
| 16:37.32 | firstof5 | wow |
| 16:37.58 | TieSoul | I don't really know any :P |
| 16:38.13 | TieSoul | well, except for that guy in my Dutch class who's named Ties/Thies |
| 16:39.12 | ThijsRay | So, which organisation are you choosing? |
| 16:39.22 | TieSoul | I don't know yet |
| 16:39.32 | TieSoul | looking through them again now actually |
| 16:39.53 | firstof5 | I think I will be choosing wikimedia |
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| 16:40.13 | Guest56806 | apertium |
| 16:40.15 | TieSoul | Thinking KDE or Copyleft would be pretty cool |
| 16:40.23 | firstof5 | maybe sugar labs |
| 16:41.07 | ThijsRay | Im thinking of WikiMedia or Drupal. |
| 16:41.48 | TieSoul | though Apertium's also pretty cool |
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| 16:42.31 | ThijsRay | Apertium sounds really cool aswell, but Im not that good with c++ and python yet. |
| 16:42.39 | TieSoul | I'm pretty good with Python |
| 16:42.43 | TieSoul | started with it actually |
| 16:42.45 | TieSoul | but C++ |
| 16:42.51 | TieSoul | I don't like C++ |
| 16:42.58 | TieSoul | :P |
| 16:43.00 | firstof5 | I started with Js dont really like much else |
| 16:43.08 | PulkoMandy | C++ is great. You should try it more :> |
| 16:43.10 | firstof5 | *worded wrong |
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| 16:43.26 | TieSoul | eh, I think Java is superior. |
| 16:43.35 | PulkoMandy | depends what you need to do |
| 16:44.00 | TieSoul | but I mostly use Ruby |
| 16:44.06 | TieSoul | :P |
| 16:44.28 | ThijsRay | I have to learn C for a project at school. Is it really different compared to C++ or C#? |
| 16:44.37 | TieSoul | C++ is object-oriented |
| 16:44.48 | TieSoul | and that's basically the only difference |
| 16:45.00 | PulkoMandy | that's a big difference |
| 16:45.05 | TieSoul | I know |
| 16:45.16 | TieSoul | but it's completely backwards-compatible (I think) |
| 16:45.19 | PulkoMandy | also, C++ is both object oriented and procedural/imperative |
| 16:45.24 | PulkoMandy | not completely, but close enough |
| 16:45.35 | ThijsRay | 15 minutes! |
| 16:46.03 | TieSoul | yay |
| 16:46.15 | TieSoul | Haiku looks cool too |
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| 16:46.20 | SquidDev | C++/C pointers always confuse me. I understand the principal but... |
| 16:46.24 | TieSoul | ^ |
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| 16:46.29 | TieSoul | Why are arrays pointers? |
| 16:46.40 | TieSoul | well, I guess they're always pointers |
| 16:46.51 | TieSoul | but why are they not better abstracted? |
| 16:46.54 | Dragooon | Points which point to array |
| 16:46.58 | Dragooon | Better abstracted as in? |
| 16:47.07 | Guest56806 | registration will be active in 15 mins? |
| 16:47.10 | TieSoul | make it not as apparent that arrays are actually pointers |
| 16:47.24 | ThijsRay | Guest56806: Yes |
| 16:47.31 | Dragooon | Arrays can be handled without the pointers though, so it's sometimes simpler that way |
| 16:47.43 | Dragooon | But when you don't know the number of elements in advanced pointers come in |
| 16:47.55 | TieSoul | ah |
| 16:47.59 | TieSoul | yeah, that makes sense |
| 16:48.21 | Guest56806 | is it important to use linux? :/ it makes me sad.. |
| 16:48.31 | Dragooon | Depends on your organisation |
| 16:48.34 | Dragooon | I did my tasks on Mac |
| 16:48.34 | TieSoul | you can get a VM |
| 16:48.52 | TieSoul | I have an openSUSE VM ready |
| 16:48.59 | Guest56806 | it isn't comfortable to use VM |
| 16:49.41 | VarunAgw | Dragooon, I hope you are not participating as student in GCI :P |
| 16:49.48 | Dragooon | I am! |
| 16:49.50 | Dragooon | I will win! |
| 16:49.53 | Guest56806 | :D |
| 16:49.54 | Dragooon | :P |
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| 16:50.25 | UrsWeGo | ) |
| 16:50.26 | VarunAgw | Dragooon, If you win, I will make sure to do everything to get you dis-qualified |
| 16:50.28 | Dragooon | Guest56806: VMWare can be pretty much native if you have to use Linux |
| 16:50.41 | Dragooon | VarunAgw: I am pretty sure my history will get me disqualified :P |
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| 16:50.50 | Dragooon | One look at the account and bam, out |
| 16:50.51 | VarunAgw | haha :) |
| 16:51.03 | Guest56806 | .vdi is for virtual box right? |
| 16:51.07 | kremlin- | Guest56806: yeah |
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| 16:51.43 | TieSoul | what company are you choosing Dragooon? |
| 16:51.52 | ThijsRay | Organisation* |
| 16:51.55 | Dragooon | TieSoul: I'm not participating, too hold for that |
| 16:51.56 | TieSoul | organisation |
| 16:51.57 | Dragooon | old* |
| 16:52.07 | Guest56806 | 8 mins left :p |
| 16:52.25 | bshah | !countdown |
| 16:52.26 | gsocbot | bshah: "countdown" is Don't start countdown. You will be kicked. |
| 16:52.32 | umccullough | heh, you beat me to it |
| 16:52.33 | ThijsRay | lol |
| 16:52.57 | Guest56806 | what is the clock on the site? |
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| 16:53.42 | Arc | 7 minutes. |
| 16:53.50 | umccullough | less actually |
| 16:53.50 | PulkoMandy | TieSoul: the low level arrays in C and C++ allow you to write low level things, like, a memory allocator. I work for Haiku and it's nice that we can use C++ for that, in Java it wouldn't really be possible |
| 16:53.55 | Guest56806 | 6 |
| 16:54.00 | ThijsRay | !countdown |
| 16:54.01 | gsocbot | ThijsRay: "countdown" is Don't start countdown. You will be kicked. |
| 16:54.05 | PulkoMandy | (I know for sure, the company where I worked before tried it, and failed) |
| 16:54.06 | VarunAgw | bshah, I remember I wrote the !countdown |
| 16:54.22 | VarunAgw | haha |
| 16:54.28 | Guest56806 | !countdown |
| 16:54.29 | gsocbot | Guest56806: "countdown" is Don't start countdown. You will be kicked. |
| 16:54.34 | Guest56806 | :D |
| 16:54.41 | firstof5 | 5mins |
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| 16:55.33 | bshah | VarunAgw: during gsoc period carols used to mute gsoc channel.. :D |
| 16:55.37 | Guest56806 | 4 |
| 16:55.39 | bshah | those awesme days.. |
| 16:55.41 | bshah | :p |
| 16:55.57 | umccullough | too bad nobody is apparently around to kick ;) |
| 16:56.07 | VarunAgw | bshah, She is not here right now :p I am sure few people will be kicked by now if she was here |
| 16:56.21 | VarunAgw | kicks umccullough |
| 16:56.24 | Guest56806 | 3 |
| 16:56.35 | VarunAgw | kicks Guest56806 |
| 16:56.51 | bshah | heh |
| 16:56.53 | ThijsRay | Haha |
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| 16:56.58 | PulkoMandy | seems that worked :> |
| 16:57.56 | UrsWeGo | 2 |
| 16:58.05 | ThijsRay | 1 |
| 16:58.06 | firstof5 | 1min |
| 16:58.11 | Guest56806 | !! |
| 16:58.30 | UrsWeGo | Ok Google! Let`s start!!!! |
| 16:58.47 | firstof5 | GL people |
| 16:58.51 | ThijsRay | Good luck everybody and have fun ;) |
| 16:58.53 | Guest56806 | good luck have fun |
| 16:58.54 | Guest56806 | :D |
| 16:58.56 | VarunAgw | I think you people have to submit form first |
| 16:59.08 | ThijsRay | I am prepared for that |
| 16:59.10 | someplace | one of the tasks had better be making that timer on the site work without a reload |
| 16:59.18 | UrsWeGo | 0 |
| 16:59.20 | firstof5 | 0 |
| 16:59.25 | Guest56806 | 0 |
| 16:59.29 | UrsWeGo | 0 |
| 16:59.31 | Guest56806 | soo |
| 16:59.35 | Guest56806 | is it seconds right? ;D |
| 16:59.43 | UrsWeGo | .+ |
| 16:59.52 | firstof5 | well |
| 17:00.01 | gevaerts | TieSoul: arrays are not pointers |
| 17:00.08 | Guest56806 | lets do it guys. i wish y'all good luck |
| 17:00.10 | umccullough | ok, everyone go home - it was just a hoax! |
| 17:00.10 | ThijsRay | Open! |
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| 17:00.40 | PulkoMandy | also, -1 |
| 17:01.02 | Arc | GCI is now on :-) |
| 17:01.16 | Arc | holy crap we haven't received a claim request yet |
| 17:01.40 | Arc | y'all are slow this year |
| 17:02.35 | gevaerts | Arc: you can't count down on irc and claim tasks at the same time! |
| 17:02.46 | Guest56806 | how to get a task??? |
| 17:03.04 | Arc | gevaerts: true true :-) |
| 17:03.14 | Arc | Guest56806: you need to register first |
| 17:03.22 | Guest56806 | where is the button? :p |
| 17:03.30 | ThijsRay | Front page |
| 17:03.47 | Arc | And our first task has been claimed |
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| 17:04.09 | Arc | Suggestion: start by filtering for only beginner tasks. Every student may complete up to 2 beginner tasks, and they're a great way to get started |
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| 17:06.38 | Guest56806 | emm |
| 17:06.39 | Guest56806 | This page is accessible only to users without a profile. |
| 17:06.55 | umccullough | you already registered then |
| 17:07.07 | Guest56806 | so where is the button for claiming a task? |
| 17:07.15 | umccullough | did you register before it started? |
| 17:07.21 | Guest56806 | ye |
| 17:08.06 | UrsWeGo | Question: Can I upload only scan of signed page? |
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| 17:08.28 | umccullough | Guest56806, you may have registered as a mentor |
| 17:08.38 | TieSoul | alright |
| 17:08.38 | TieSoul | I'm back |
| 17:08.38 | umccullough | Guest56806, you might join #melange and ask there |
| 17:08.39 | TieSoul | UrsWeGo: I'm wondering the same thing |
| 17:08.39 | sttaylor | UrsWeGo: no, you have to upload all 10 -11 pages of the Parental Consent form or it will be rejected |
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| 17:09.01 | TieSoul | wait, really? |
| 17:09.03 | Guest56806 | where to upload that |
| 17:09.14 | sttaylor | your parent can also digitally sign (the easier option) |
| 17:09.43 | sttaylor | Once you have file din your student profile the "My Dashboard" will pop up on the left navigation bar |
| 17:10.00 | sttaylor | go to "My Dashboard" -> "Form Upload" |
| 17:10.17 | UrsWeGo | Ok. Can I upload photo of this pages? |
| 17:10.26 | UrsWeGo | *a photo |
| 17:10.42 | sttaylor | There you will see the place where you click and your parent can digitally sign the form (or you can upload your 10-11 pages- length depends on the translated version you are using) |
| 17:11.04 | sttaylor | you will also see the option to upload your Student Verification form |
| 17:11.29 | sttaylor | UrsWeGo: do you mean a photo of the 10-11 pages? |
| 17:11.42 | UrsWeGo | yes |
| 17:12.35 | sttaylor | UrsWeGo: No, that wouldn't be legible |
| 17:12.42 | sttaylor | it would be to small |
| 17:12.54 | sttaylor | I have to be able to read it to verify it |
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| 17:13.06 | jrullman | i can't fill out the registration form |
| 17:13.08 | jrullman | i keep getting errors |
| 17:13.10 | TieSoul | so scanning is acceptable? |
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| 17:13.37 | jrullman | nevermind, i didnt scroll down on the terms/conditions and check the box |
| 17:13.46 | jrullman | TieSoul: yeah, scanning is acceptable |
| 17:14.21 | Guest56806 | if i have 10 pages in different photos |
| 17:14.25 | Guest56806 | split them? |
| 17:14.42 | UrsWeGo | sttaylor: Same questin |
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| 17:14.42 | TieSoul | Gender: Female, Male, Other |
| 17:14.47 | TieSoul | What's the Other for? |
| 17:14.49 | TieSoul | :P |
| 17:14.51 | sttaylor | Guest56806: You can put them into a zip file |
| 17:14.58 | Guest56806 | @sttaylor: ok. thx |
| 17:15.18 | Guest56806 | @sttaylor: if i have a student id in my language, is it acceptable? |
| 17:15.21 | ThijsRay | TieSoul: Maybe if you are not sure which one you are? |
| 17:15.27 | gevaerts | TieSoul: it's for those people you just offended by mocking them |
| 17:15.52 | TieSoul | now I feel bad. |
| 17:16.16 | sttaylor | Guest56806: yes, as long as it is obvious that is says your name and the school year 2014-15 on it. If it doesn't please add a translation. |
| 17:18.51 | TieSoul | sttaylor: is it alright if my school doesn't have an English name? |
| 17:19.51 | sttaylor | TieSoul: yes, that's fine |
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| 17:24.07 | TieSoul | in the adress part of the registration form, do I put my street name and number in the same input field, or do I put my street name in one, and my number in the second? |
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| 17:27.26 | sttaylor | TieSoul: you put them both in the same field - like 1678 Pine Street |
| 17:27.35 | TieSoul | alright |
| 17:27.36 | TieSoul | thanks |
| 17:29.37 | sttaylor | TieSoul: you are welcome |
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| 17:42.46 | blakehenderson16 | When the form is signed electronically, is it sent directly to google? or is there anything else that i need to do. |
| 17:43.31 | Dragooon | Yay we can do tasks now |
| 17:43.31 | jrullman | blakehenderson16: you need to upload the form |
| 17:44.17 | blakehenderson16 | jrullman, even if i electronicaly signed it through the site, i stil need to upload the forms? |
| 17:45.29 | Darrel | supposedly not |
| 17:45.38 | jrullman | blakehenderson16: you couldn't have digitally signed it through the google-melange site. i'm assuming you downloaded the PDF, signed it using something like acrobat/preview, and now you need to upload the PDF |
| 17:46.08 | blakehenderson16 | jrullman, Oh i understand. Thank you! |
| 17:46.27 | TieSoul | yay, finally scanned and uploaded all the pages of PC |
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| 17:47.58 | sttaylor | blakehenderson16: the electronic form goes directly to me at Google. You do not need to do anything else with your Parental Consent form. |
| 17:48.03 | VarunAgw | <Dragooon> Yay we can do tasks now......Hmm |
| 17:48.19 | sttaylor | jurullman: actually they can digitally sign this year. |
| 17:48.40 | Dragooon | VarunAgw: Yes, yay |
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| 17:48.41 | blakehenderson16 | sstaylor, thats what i found on the site. it says if you electronically sign it, you dont have to upload it |
| 17:48.46 | Dragooon | finds fraud IDs |
| 17:48.52 | sttaylor | there is an option in their student profile section where their parent can digitally sign the Parental Consent form, making it much easier for everyone |
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| 17:50.31 | VarunAgw | reports Dragooon to #melange |
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| 17:51.36 | jrullman | sttaylor: very cool! my bad, all. |
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| 17:55.17 | Slurpee | That was a fun first hour of GCI :) |
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| 17:56.23 | Slurpee | Drupal instantly received several task assignment requests. How is it looking for other orgs? |
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| 17:56.55 | PulkoMandy | not sure how to see how it is for the whole org |
| 17:57.17 | PulkoMandy | I expected the dashboard to show that but can't see it. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong place |
| 17:58.59 | Slurpee | PulkoMandy, tasks list has a column for status? claimed = assigned |
| 17:59.57 | PulkoMandy | ok, 9 claimed/claimrequested tasks |
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| 18:01.24 | artemtam | my task is "claimrequested" for an hour, it's ok? |
| 18:02.16 | PulkoMandy | artemtam: not all mentors are available all the time, just start doing the work and it should be "claimed" when you come back |
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| 18:04.38 | TieSoul | I really can't choose between the organizations |
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| 18:06.53 | sttaylor | TieSoul: this is the time to do a task with on org then another task with another and see what interests you the most. If you plan to go for the grand prize then you have plenty of time to try a task with 2-3 orbs before settling on one |
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| 18:21.41 | brlcad | wonders how the openmrs newbies are doing ;) |
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| 18:29.46 | firstof5 | any of you finished a task yet? |
| 18:31.03 | michael_huang | Hi, I have a question about the Google Code-In rules: |
| 18:31.24 | michael_huang | In Section 5.2, where it reads "Each open source organization will evaluate the work of the 10 highest scoring contestants who completed tasks for their organization..." |
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| 18:32.07 | michael_huang | by "the 10 highest scoring contestants who completed tasks for their organization" refer to contestants who have the highest score in total, |
| 18:32.45 | ThijsRay | firstof5: Ive finished a task :) |
| 18:32.47 | maths22 | michael_huang: the 10 students who have completed the most tasks for the organization |
| 18:32.53 | michael_huang | Okay, thanks. |
| 18:33.15 | TieSoul | I haven't even claimed a task yet |
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| 18:34.00 | ThijsRay | My task was ´Interact with the IRC bot´ x) |
| 18:34.08 | sttaylor | there are 7 weeks of the contest, you don't have to claim a task right now. : ) |
| 18:34.09 | TieSoul | which org? |
| 18:34.12 | ThijsRay | Drupal |
| 18:34.15 | TieSoul | ah |
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| 18:37.03 | mloc- | after I hit claim it says "claimrequested" - should I wait for this to change before moving on? |
| 18:37.33 | umccullough | mloc-, it means it hasn't been assigned to you yet, but nobody else can claim it until it's released |
| 18:37.45 | umccullough | in theory, you could begin working on it, or remove your claim |
| 18:38.02 | mloc- | ah alright |
| 18:38.04 | mloc- | I'll wait it out |
| 18:38.20 | umccullough | a mentor could decide not to assign it if they don't want to...but that would suggest they have a reason |
| 18:39.10 | maths22 | firstof5: Also, see here: http://beastiebots.org:5000/ |
| 18:39.56 | firstof5 | k im back |
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| 18:41.53 | maths22 | firstof5: Also, see here: http://beastiebots.org:5000/ |
| 18:42.04 | firstof5 | im waiting for my task to be reviewed |
| 18:42.33 | firstof5 | maths22: Some people have already done 2? |
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| 18:43.41 | maths22 | firstof5: If you click the person's name, you can see what tasks they have done |
| 18:43.51 | umccullough | sugarlabs throws error on that page: http://beastiebots.org:5000/org/sugarlabs2013/ |
| 18:44.15 | maths22 | umccullough: fixed |
| 18:44.16 | umccullough | looks like bad URL with '2013' at the end |
| 18:44.36 | maths22 | I edited the app from last year, and forgot to change that |
| 18:45.13 | firstof5 | maths22: you made that? |
| 18:45.22 | firstof5 | maths22: Good work |
| 18:45.35 | maths22 | firstof5: I didn't make it; I adapted it for 2014 |
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| 18:46.08 | maths22 | https://github.com/svineet/GCILeaderboard |
| 18:46.18 | ThijsRay | !leaderboard |
| 18:46.32 | ThijsRay | Can someone add that link to !leaderboard? |
| 18:46.40 | gevaerts | Yes, you can :) |
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| 18:47.51 | firstof5 | any idea how long it takes to review a task |
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| 18:48.15 | firstof5 | all I had to do was upload a few screenshots |
| 18:48.41 | drakosvlad | Hello! I've done my task and now I have to upload it, but I don't have the "Upload" button. |
| 18:49.07 | maths22 | drakosvlad: has your claim been accepted? |
| 18:49.08 | sttaylor | firstof5: it can take up to 36 hours for a mentor to review though usually it is less than 12 hours. |
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| 18:49.41 | gevaerts | I'd hope that for simple tasks, especially just after the start of the program, they're on the ball |
| 18:49.56 | firstof5 | @sttaylor: thanks |
| 18:50.26 | drakosvlad | I've got it! Thanks :) |
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| 18:53.25 | firstof5 | Yes |
| 18:54.13 | firstof5 | I need to find a new task now |
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| 19:17.40 | spikyhelix | what is the reply box for claimed tasks? |
| 19:18.00 | umccullough | to leave ocmments |
| 19:18.02 | umccullough | comments |
| 19:18.39 | drakosvlad | I've got a problem: when I try to go to register page on Sugar Labs' git, my browser returns an ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR. How can I fix that? |
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| 19:24.53 | BLXZ | hello |
| 19:25.04 | carols | hi BLXZ |
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| 19:25.14 | BLXZ | can someone recommend a blog/forum to post an article on about OpenMRS |
| 19:25.26 | BLXZ | maybe something open source specific? |
| 19:25.47 | carols | BLXZ: youâre looking to post _about_ openmrs? or you want to learn about openmrs? |
| 19:25.47 | BLXZ | Already wrote it but I got to post it somewhere |
| 19:26.08 | BLXZ | no i wrote an article about it and i have to post it somewhere |
| 19:26.21 | BLXZ | so yes i want to post about it |
| 19:26.22 | carols | BLXZ: are you part of the community already? |
| 19:26.38 | BLXZ | on G+ ? |
| 19:26.41 | BLXZ | not yet |
| 19:26.48 | BLXZ | just signed up as a student |
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| 19:27.01 | carols | BLXZ: okay, iâm not understanding your question. |
| 19:27.07 | carols | BLXZ: is this for gci? |
| 19:27.20 | BLXZ | jep |
| 19:27.32 | carols | BLXZ: okay, were you already assigned a task for this post? |
| 19:27.48 | gevaerts | suggests talking to the openmrs people about this |
| 19:28.02 | BLXZ | yes |
| 19:28.15 | BLXZ | ok i already joined #openmrs |
| 19:28.28 | carols | BLXZ: great, then thatâs the right procedure |
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| 19:28.53 | carols | looks like youâre well on your way :-) |
| 19:28.58 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 19:30.21 | olly | drakosvlad: you're best off asking the sugarlabs people directly |
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| 20:05.51 | mloc- | how long should it take for claimrequested to pass? |
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| 20:07.31 | olly | mloc-: the orgs have agreed to respond within 36 hours, though it's usually much less |
| 20:08.35 | olly | but you can probably just start working on it without waiting |
| 20:08.46 | umccullough | i recommend you join the org's IRC channel and ask if there are any mentors around |
| 20:08.51 | umccullough | but don't be too annoying ;) |
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| 20:39.41 | carols | hi nav_ |
| 20:39.49 | nav_ | Hi carols |
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| 21:14.49 | Nathan2055 | If you are homeschooled, what should you put down for school name and URL when signing up for the Google Code-in? |
| 21:16.20 | maths22 | Nathan2055: for the url, put http://www.google.com/ |
| 21:16.33 | maths22 | for the name, just write homeschooled or something like that |
| 21:16.36 | Nathan2055 | Okay. |
| 21:17.01 | maths22 | https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=244 |
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| 21:17.31 | gevaerts | thinks that for home schooling, the URL is obviously your home page :) |
| 21:18.34 | Nathan2055 | That would make sense, |
| 21:19.01 | gevaerts | Not really |
| 21:19.15 | umccullough | your parent's homepage maybe |
| 21:19.19 | Nathan2055 | I assume that you should upload your Declaration of Intent for your proof of enrollment? |
| 21:19.23 | gevaerts | I'd say this is one of those cases where you want an answer from a google person |
| 21:19.37 | Nathan2055 | Yeah, I'll shoot them an email. |
| 21:19.51 | umccullough | or poke sttaylor |
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| 21:21.10 | maths22 | sttaylor asked for the directions to be modified to say "If you are homeschooled or your school does not have a website please just put google.com" |
| 21:21.22 | maths22 | At that issue I referenced |
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| 21:22.20 | olly | maths22: i think you linked to the wrong issue |
| 21:22.20 | gevaerts | maths22: Then I suspect you linked to the wrong issue |
| 21:22.31 | Nathan2055 | I don't see it, are you sure you linked the right one? |
| 21:22.42 | sttaylor_ | Nathan2055: we are currently updating that help text for people who are homeschooled or don't have school URLs just put google.com |
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| 21:23.07 | Nathan2055 | Okay, what about the proof of enrollment? |
| 21:23.23 | maths22 | I meant to write https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=2444 |
| 21:23.41 | nav_ | Has anyone found an actually good task? |
| 21:23.58 | sttaylor_ | a letter from your parent stating your name and that they have been homeschooling you since XXX year and your planned graduation is XXX year with their signature will be perfect. |
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| 21:24.16 | Nathan2055 | Okay, thanks! |
| 21:24.17 | nav_ | Because I'm going through all of them and they're either a nightmare or not interesting enough or require you to be really familiar with the organization (such as Haiku's tasks, and Drupal's) |
| 21:24.46 | sttaylor_ | nav_: what type of task are you interested in? |
| 21:25.20 | nav_ | Ummm... PHP, C++, iOS (no iOS stuff there :( ), algorithms, system administration (I noticed OpenMRS tasks and to some extent they're actually nice) |
| 21:25.20 | PulkoMandy | nav_: hi, I'm from Haiku, and we aren't trying to make student run away when they see the task |
| 21:25.33 | umccullough | haiku's tasks don't necessarily require you to be really familiar... but you'll probably end up asking a lot of questions in the IRC channel :) |
| 21:25.35 | PulkoMandy | what make you think our tasks are too complex? |
| 21:25.40 | nav_ | PulkoMandy, Oh, hello, well you kinda are D: |
| 21:25.53 | nav_ | PulkoMandy, Ummm... Let me go through your tasks again. It's nice having someone from there here :) |
| 21:26.13 | umccullough | you can always join our #haiku channel |
| 21:26.21 | umccullough | that's where most GCI students already have asked questions |
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| 21:26.36 | umccullough | also, we have some beginner tasks which are not that hard really |
| 21:26.43 | umccullough | filter for them |
| 21:26.48 | nav_ | Yep but I was asking more generally, there are a dozen of organizations and I'm really confused which one to pick |
| 21:27.29 | umccullough | choosing a single org...that might be challenging if you're unfamiliar with any of them ;) |
| 21:27.39 | nav_ | I've never worked with Haiku so honestly even this, https://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5881330411765760 , looks complicated for me |
| 21:27.40 | PulkoMandy | you can try tasks from some different orgs to see how it goes in the first days |
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| 21:28.01 | nav_ | I'm most familiar with PHP CMS but Drupal's stuff are all modules and etc, I really hoped they'd enlist source code edits or so |
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| 21:28.18 | umccullough | nav_, yes, you'll have to learn some stuff to complete that one - but you could start with the beginner task to boot it in a virtual machine |
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| 21:29.25 | olly | nav_: there's at least one ios-related task: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5338036711718912 |
| 21:29.34 | umccullough | in any case, our org provides a lot of help for students that need it |
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| 21:30.02 | nav_ | umccullough, I've never seen that [nocode] and [welcome], that's amazing! |
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| 21:31.23 | nav_ | olly, that's a documentation thing, not coding :/ |
| 21:32.11 | nav_ | I guess I'll take https://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/6659082752622592 |
| 21:32.17 | nav_ | @Haiku guys, you're amazing |
| 21:32.34 | umccullough | at least it's *something* :) |
| 21:32.40 | nav_ | I'm sorry if I sound like a lame person who doesn't know anything |
| 21:32.42 | umccullough | if you don't like haiku, you can always choose another org to work with |
| 21:32.50 | umccullough | no big deal, everyone starts somewhere |
| 21:32.54 | nav_ | It's just, I'm used to work with source codes and algorithms and stuff from scratch |
| 21:33.01 | sttaylor_ | more tasks will be added throughout the contest too. |
| 21:33.03 | nav_ | And I'm not used to working with big teams, you know |
| 21:33.16 | umccullough | indeed, we will be adding tasks as we come up with them |
| 21:33.28 | nav_ | So it's a bit difficult for me to cope with a whole organization that has a specific style and system |
| 21:33.32 | PulkoMandy | nav_: don't worry, GCI is made just for that |
| 21:33.32 | nav_ | Hopefully I'll learn how to do that here |
| 21:33.35 | umccullough | nav_, the point here is to get you involved and used to working with FOSS communities ;) |
| 21:33.43 | nav_ | Hopefully I'll do that! |
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| 21:33.45 | nav_ | Thanks again guys :) |
| 21:33.46 | PulkoMandy | we expect everyone to feel a bit lost at start |
| 21:33.51 | nav_ | (or girls) |
| 21:33.52 | PulkoMandy | so just ask for help if needed |
| 21:34.26 | nav_ | I will :) |
| 21:34.53 | nav_ | Ummmm... Another thing |
| 21:34.59 | nav_ | Do I have to wait for the claim to be confirmed? |
| 21:35.22 | PsyCode | nav_: Not neccesarily |
| 21:35.30 | PsyCode | You could get started before then |
| 21:35.40 | PsyCode | You would probably be accepted anyway |
| 21:35.41 | maths22 | nav_: You cant submit until then, but you cefintely can get started |
| 21:35.49 | nav_ | Oh, alright then |
| 21:35.52 | nav_ | Thanks maths22 and PsyCode |
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| 21:37.12 | sttaylor | not all orbs put as many tags on their tasks so you may want to sort through them by org- right now there are over 1600 tasks available to choose from |
| 21:37.17 | sttaylor | orgs |
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| 21:37.28 | nav_ | Haiku is an operating system? |
| 21:37.29 | nav_ | Whoa |
| 21:37.35 | nav_ | I feel like an ignorant |
| 21:38.03 | nav_ | Ummmm |
| 21:38.20 | nav_ | I really hope mentors would understand the fact that my download speed is 50 KB/sec |
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| 21:39.56 | PulkoMandy | you have at least 3 days to complete each task, that can include download times |
| 21:40.14 | umccullough | tasks can be extended if necessary |
| 21:40.23 | nav_ | Well, for this task specifically it won't last more than an hour |
| 21:40.26 | umccullough | at least haiku isn't very large |
| 21:40.31 | andre__ | nav_, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_%28operating_system%29 |
| 21:40.32 | nav_ | The actual installation time, I mean |
| 21:40.41 | nav_ | andre__, yep, I found the link |
| 21:40.48 | nav_ | Thanks :) |
| 21:41.27 | nav_ | When did Haiku start? |
| 21:41.33 | nav_ | 2001? |
| 21:41.34 | nav_ | Wow |
| 21:41.37 | nav_ | And it's still alpha? |
| 21:41.52 | umccullough | yeah... sore subject |
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| 21:42.05 | umccullough | hopefully beta soon |
| 21:42.20 | nav_ | Why did it take that long? |
| 21:43.05 | umccullough | i don't have an adequate answer, and i'm sure nobody here wants to hear about it ;) |
| 21:43.13 | umccullough | feel free to chat about Haiku further in #haiku |
| 21:43.30 | nav_ | Oh, okay, I guess I'll do that instead of bugging people here |
| 21:43.30 | PulkoMandy | lots of work and not enough people to do it - writing a whole operating system is a crazy big task |
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| 21:44.00 | nav_ | Probably, although 13 years is way, way too much time |
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| 21:49.38 | Evan_M | I dunno, operating systems are some crazy stuff, especially graphical ones |
| 21:49.41 | umccullough | nav_, no, but i assigned it for you |
| 21:49.56 | umccullough | er, the claim, sorry |
| 21:50.13 | nav_ | Oh, okay. Thanks, umccullough! :) |
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