| 00:00.20 | valorie | tsting: looks like it, but why not ask the mentor about that? |
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| 00:07.35 | unicodesnowman | 1 day into GCI, and I'm already dealing with circular dependency hell :D |
| 00:07.46 | Evan_M | Woo! |
| 00:07.57 | valorie | oh fun times |
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| 00:47.01 | indielives010 | hi |
| 00:47.34 | meflin | hello |
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| 01:08.29 | indielives010 | anything up here? |
| 01:08.54 | indielives010 | where are you all from? |
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| 01:16.20 | unicodesnowman | indielives010, hey, I'm from Australia :) |
| 01:16.22 | unicodesnowman | you? |
| 01:16.33 | indielives010 | germany :) |
| 01:16.36 | indielives010 | i love australia |
| 01:16.51 | indielives010 | im at the moment with an exchange student and he is australian as well |
| 01:17.00 | indielives010 | which part of it? |
| 01:17.02 | unicodesnowman | ah cool :) You doing GCI or GSOC? |
| 01:17.04 | unicodesnowman | Sydney |
| 01:17.10 | indielives010 | GCi |
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| 01:17.25 | unicodesnowman | which org? |
| 01:17.31 | indielives010 | wow, but he doesnt like sydney :/ (from melbourne...) |
| 01:17.38 | indielives010 | anyways, i do |
| 01:17.50 | indielives010 | kde |
| 01:17.59 | indielives010 | what are you doing? |
| 01:18.29 | unicodesnowman | oh, I did KDE last year :) I'm doing wikimedia right now ; why? sydney is pretty cool. |
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| 01:18.47 | unicodesnowman | well, weather alternates between heat waves and super cold days |
| 01:19.07 | indielives010 | i dont know, probably just because |
| 01:19.20 | indielives010 | he is from melbourne |
| 01:19.39 | indielives010 | how did you do in kde? |
| 01:20.37 | unicodesnowman | i was in the top 5 (finalists), I learned lots of things during GCI too :) |
| 01:20.38 | unicodesnowman | in gci2012 I did Fedora and won :) |
| 01:20.57 | indielives010 | that is amazing! how many tasks did you do? |
| 01:21.22 | unicodesnowman | eh, around 20ish? |
| 01:21.35 | unicodesnowman | doesn't really remember now |
| 01:22.02 | indielives010 | oh, ok fair enough |
| 01:22.06 | unicodesnowman | I'm finding code review / gerrit really cool for Wikimedia :) |
| 01:22.25 | indielives010 | can i ask you how old you are? |
| 01:22.54 | unicodesnowman | 16.5 years, you? |
| 01:23.17 | indielives010 | 15 :) |
| 01:23.22 | indielives010 | this is my first time |
| 01:23.28 | unicodesnowman | ah :) how are you finding it so far? |
| 01:24.02 | indielives010 | well, i registered about an hour ago but the idea itself is great |
| 01:24.06 | unicodesnowman | indielives010, be geeky - say you're 0x0F years old! |
| 01:24.40 | indielives010 | or maybe 0001000 ? |
| 01:25.07 | indielives010 | or 15.0f ? :D |
| 01:25.09 | unicodesnowman | heh, you're waiting for a task to be assigned to you? |
| 01:25.29 | indielives010 | yes, i claimed one |
| 01:26.39 | unicodesnowman | I'm using ubuntu / unity for now, but with ubuntu's move to systemd and GNOME's reliance I might use kde in a year or two |
| 01:27.34 | unicodesnowman | indielives010, good luck with GCI :) |
| 01:27.44 | indielives010 | yeah, i prefere fedora, you learn most with it :) |
| 01:27.59 | indielives010 | and thanks unicodesnowman |
| 01:29.32 | Lacky | hey. What is difference between GCI and GSoC? |
| 01:30.08 | unicodesnowman | Lacky, GCI is for 13-17 year olds and you work on small self-contained tasks |
| 01:30.41 | unicodesnowman | GSoC is for uni students to work on something specific open source project, you submit a proposal |
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| 01:31.45 | Lacky | thx for answer |
| 01:32.26 | Lacky | Actually I'm waition for GSoC and I've found info about GCI |
| 01:32.34 | Lacky | *waiting |
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| 03:11.18 | Evan_M | Hey guys! What orgs are you all doing stuff for? |
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| 03:13.08 | unicodesnowman | Evan_M, Wikimedia, you? :) |
| 03:13.28 | Evan_M | unicodesnowman, same! |
| 03:13.28 | umccullough | I'm doing stuff for the same org I always do :) |
| 03:13.48 | Evan_M | umccullough, what org is that? |
| 03:13.56 | umccullough | Haiku |
| 03:14.00 | unicodesnowman | Evan_M, what are you doing right now? :) |
| 03:15.18 | Evan_M | That's really cool, umccullough! unicodesnowman, I'm waiting for my pull request to be looked at, I did a task which involved cleaning up exceptions in huggle ( http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5804072137392128 is the task) |
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| 03:17.08 | unicodesnowman | Evan_M, Neat! I'm waiting for my code to be reviewed too |
| 03:17.30 | unicodesnowman | my first circular dependency XD |
| 03:18.45 | unicodesnowman | Evan_M, have you used gerrit before? |
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| 03:20.19 | Evan_M | unicodesnowman, not yet, I'll have to set it up/learn it with another task, huggle is all on github |
| 03:21.05 | unicodesnowman | Evan_M, lucky you XD |
| 03:21.41 | Evan_M | unicodesnowman, I assume it's a pain? |
| 03:22.14 | unicodesnowman | Evan_M, it's a great system, it just has a learning curve to it |
| 03:22.44 | Evan_M | unicodesnowman, I guess I should start getting it setup and learning it, then |
| 03:22.58 | unicodesnowman | mm. is this your first time doing GCI? |
| 03:23.15 | Evan_M | Technically, no, but last year I had no idea what I was doing compared to now xD |
| 03:23.41 | unicodesnowman | haha. this is my 3rd year |
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| 03:24.10 | Evan_M | Thats awesome! What orgs have you worked with? |
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| 04:09.27 | Evan_M | Im gonna call it a night, talk to you all later, unicodesnowman and everyone else |
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| 14:25.35 | nayeem | as programs were announced on 6th of october .. so can we see them |
| 14:25.45 | andre__ | what is "them"? |
| 14:25.51 | andre__ | which programs? what do you expect to see? |
| 14:25.54 | nayeem | that programs |
| 14:25.56 | andre__ | could you elaborate a bit please? |
| 14:26.08 | andre__ | I don't understand what you refer to, I am sorry :) |
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| 14:28.38 | nayeem | had anybody participated in gsoc before ? |
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| 14:31.16 | PulkoMandy | yes, lots of people |
| 14:31.35 | nayeem | how is the experience ? |
| 14:31.42 | nayeem | i am new to gsoc |
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| 14:47.10 | unicodesnowman | two days into GCI, and I've already learnt so much. what about everyone else? |
| 14:47.15 | unicodesnowman | hi m4tx :) |
| 14:48.29 | circ-user-LMqOV | Just signed up. Haven't been verified yet. Can't wait :D |
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| 14:48.51 | PulkoMandy | as a mentor, great to see so much activity on our project :D |
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| 14:52.22 | tadityar | circ-user-LMqOV : you don't have to be verified to start your first task! In fact they'll only start verifying your forms once you've done your first task :) |
| 14:55.31 | unicodesnowman | indeed, unless chiefnoah meant for a mentor to assign the task to them |
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| 15:00.52 | Evan_M | unicodesnowman, I've learned a lot too, this mediawiki api is killing me though, I'll have to spend some time on it when I get home |
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| 15:01.52 | Evan_M | Oh, gotta go, I'll be back at 3:00pm EST |
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| 15:12.23 | m4tx | hi unicodesnowman |
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| 15:36.46 | unicodesnowman | cdesai, what fun things did you do last year? |
| 15:36.57 | cdesai | segway |
| 15:37.05 | cdesai | and the yacht ride was fun |
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| 15:37.18 | cdesai | (apart from the HQ visit and sessions with Googlers) |
| 15:37.31 | unicodesnowman | oh, pretty similar :) yeah I loved the hq visit! |
| 15:37.54 | kaesaecracker | im new |
| 15:38.11 | unicodesnowman | hi kaesaecracker, are you here for GCI or GSoC? |
| 15:38.18 | kaesaecracker | and i dont like the fact that you cant get those awsome things anymore |
| 15:38.20 | kaesaecracker | gci |
| 15:38.32 | unicodesnowman | kaesaecracker, what things? |
| 15:38.49 | kaesaecracker | segway and yacht rides |
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| 16:06.50 | tonythomas | the GCI comment editing give odd outputs :\ |
| 16:07.02 | tonythomas | I wish it had a preview button in this case :( |
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| 16:07.36 | cdesai | ^this - anyone from the melange team here? |
| 16:08.16 | tonythomas | should have posted this in #melange |
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| 16:12.27 | andre__ | there's evry very likely a feature request for that already |
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| 16:44.10 | tonythomas | andre__: someone is working on that one ? got another comment in bad shape :] |
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| 16:44.44 | andre__ | tonythomas, I don't know. Look it up :) |
| 16:44.49 | andre__ | I'm not Google's bugtracker, sorry :P |
| 16:45.15 | tonythomas | I should be looking for Google.andre :D |
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| 16:46.57 | andre__ | tonythomas, https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=860 |
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| 16:48.13 | tonythomas | Wontfix :\ but looks like a good SoC issue though. /me reported https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=2453 earlier though |
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| 17:01.36 | gsoc047 | Can somebody tell that are all the tags in Projects list required for the project ? |
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| 17:05.10 | umccullough | i wouldn't say they're "required", usually they're just there to help you find a task |
| 17:06.47 | gsoc047 | Ok ! and How can i find a good task to be accomplished by project ? can you please explain ? |
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| 17:10.44 | andre__ | gsoc047, what are you interested in? |
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| 17:11.04 | andre__ | you can filter search results in Google Melange by project, if you're after that. |
| 17:11.06 | andre__ | not sure :) |
| 17:12.30 | gsoc047 | I am interested in networking , but even after filtering through melange , I could not find a suitable one , nor i have any idea to how to find a task ! |
| 17:13.26 | umccullough | hmm... networking, as in network stack coding? |
| 17:14.04 | umccullough | doesn't know what "networking" would refer to exactly |
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| 17:14.26 | gsoc047 | actually specificly in network security and cryptography , I am good in C and C++ as well ! |
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| 17:15.25 | umccullough | well.. Haiku is an entire operating system and applications that run on it - our tasks involve everything from finding/fixing bugs, to porting libraries and apps |
| 17:16.08 | umccullough | and it's all C/C++ |
| 17:17.04 | gsoc047 | Ohk and can you please tell something about Cryptography ? Where can I implement that ?? |
| 17:17.29 | umccullough | i dunno, that's a pretty broad question :) |
| 17:17.53 | umccullough | unfortunately I must go now - but perhaps you can join #haiku and ask some mentors there if there are any security/cryptography tasks available |
| 17:18.15 | umccullough | if you want, pick one of our beginner tasks and see if it's something you're interested in |
| 17:18.39 | gsoc047 | Ohk and thanks a lot for information ! |
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| 17:24.39 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 17:25.51 | cSmith | thanks, carols :P |
| 17:25.57 | carols | cSmith: yw |
| 17:26.16 | cSmith | this coffee is great |
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| 17:56.31 | niels__ | is this the Code-in IRC? |
| 17:56.56 | carols | niels__: it is the general irc channel for code-in, yes. if you want an org-specific irc channel you should go there directly |
| 17:57.14 | niels__ | ok thanks |
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| 17:57.17 | carols | yw |
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| 18:01.23 | niels__ | where can i find the kde irc chat? |
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| 18:02.28 | carols | niels__: did you already research that on their homepage on melange? |
| 18:02.45 | niels__ | i cant seem to find it |
| 18:03.06 | carols | niels__: are you on the gci homepage? |
| 18:03.12 | niels__ | yes |
| 18:03.22 | carols | niels__: and you clicked on kdeâs logo? |
| 18:03.26 | niels__ | yes |
| 18:03.38 | carols | niels__: and you found the icons for contact on the upper right? |
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| 18:03.55 | niels__ | yeah |
| 18:04.07 | carols | niels__: then� i see it as #kde-soc |
| 18:04.12 | carols | youâre not? |
| 18:04.17 | niels__ | aha foud it |
| 18:04.21 | carols | great |
| 18:04.23 | niels__ | thanks again! |
| 18:04.26 | carols | yw |
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| 18:31.40 | sarthak | hi may i talk to a GCI mentor? |
| 18:31.47 | carols | sarthak: for which org? |
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| 19:12.20 | ThijsRay | 500 error or is it just me? |
| 19:13.05 | ThijsRay | On the GCI website |
| 19:13.23 | carols | ThijsRay: iâm not having any trouble. |
| 19:13.29 | cdesai | me neither |
| 19:14.15 | ThijsRay | Mmm, strange... Im getting an internal server error page. |
| 19:14.30 | carols | ThijsRay: if it persists youâre welcome to file a bug with the melange team |
| 19:14.36 | carols | but iâm not seeing it. |
| 19:15.06 | gevaerts | Are you seeing it everywhere, or on a specific page? |
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| 19:15.51 | ThijsRay | The entire GCI part of google-melange.com. The GSoC part is working fine. |
| 19:16.04 | carols | ThijsRay: then please file a bug. |
| 19:16.46 | umccullough | certainly #melange is a better place to ask |
| 19:16.55 | ThijsRay | Ok, thank you. |
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| 19:22.31 | Augustas | Hello, there is someone to help me ? |
| 19:22.42 | carols | Augustas: help you with what in particular? |
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| 19:24.00 | umccullough | there seems to be almost 300 people here who might be able to help you :) |
| 19:24.14 | umccullough | that was an easy question, do you have another? |
| 19:24.23 | Augustas | i want to start with GCI. I wondering if my student id is good. In front is my name, surname, birthday, my school name. On other side is then id is made and valid until ( english is not my local language) |
| 19:24.25 | carols | umccullough: ah, but what percentage of those 300 can really _help_? :-) |
| 19:24.37 | umccullough | yeah... thus "might be able to" |
| 19:24.43 | carols | :-) |
| 19:25.37 | carols | Augustas: it most likely is, as long as it meets the criteria. why not just submit it and see what happens? |
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| 19:27.01 | Augustas | in sample are that need to write school years. But in my school student id valid only for year. Ok, thanks. |
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| 19:27.41 | carols | Augustas: is thatâs what you have, you should submit it and see if it qualifies. when and if our administrators tell you you need to submit something else you can do that then |
| 19:28.07 | sttaylor | Augustas: is your school year on the form anywhere? |
| 19:28.35 | sttaylor | your school year must appear on the form as well or you will have to submit a different form of proof of enrollment |
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| 19:33.24 | sttaylor | Augustas: does that answer your question? Iâm the one that reviews all of the forms so I just want to make sure you understand what will and wonât work. : ) |
| 19:34.39 | Augustas | sttaylor no just that then gived and valid until. In my student id are section Other notes: I should ask my school to write school year(2014-2015) ? |
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| 19:36.47 | sttaylor | Augustas: if it has the valid until (and it is 2015 or later that is fine too) |
| 19:40.34 | Augustas | sttaylor that would be ok i think. I am from Europe, language not english. How should i do? Ok, i do picture of my student id, and how to add translations? |
| 19:40.40 | Augustas | txt document or something? |
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| 19:42.29 | sttaylor | Augustas: the Student ID card you have described should be fine- no need to translate since most cards are very similar I can tell what each line means |
| 19:44.20 | Augustas | sttaylor thank you for help! |
| 19:44.37 | sttaylor | Augustas: you are very welcome. good luck in the contest |
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| 19:47.32 | gevaerts | sttaylor: relying on just the card without a translation can be embarrassing. Just think of the Irish police back when they were trying to catch Prawo Jazdy :) |
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| 21:04.42 | Slurpee | Is there an easy/good link that we can provide students about posting pictures of other students in their work? Example, a student did great work building a web system for their school's computer club, but added several pictures of other students. |
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| 21:17.10 | Maitreya | Where do we upload our work? |
| 21:21.04 | Slurpee | Maitreya, Melange |
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| 21:46.57 | Maitreya | How many tasks we can do during the course? And what's with the Quality and Quantity with tasks? |
| 21:47.57 | carols | Maitreya: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2014/help_page#limitnumtasks |
| 21:48.23 | carols | Maitreya: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/resources/getting-started |
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| 21:49.15 | Maitreya | Thanks! |
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| 21:58.44 | firespeaker | I'm having problems unpublishing a task I'm a mentor for on melange |
| 21:58.55 | firespeaker | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/6139090055462912 |
| 22:08.08 | sttaylor | firespeaker: please file an issue in Melange at https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/entry |
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| 22:10.43 | firespeaker | done. https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=2455&thanks=2455&ts=1417644613 |
| 22:12.09 | sttaylor | thanks we can track it better this way : ) |
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| 22:38.52 | Nathan2055 | How do I know which tasks are beginner tasks? |
| 22:39.18 | meflin | you should be able to sort in melange on the level of task |
| 22:40.38 | Evan_M | Yeah, and on the task page it will have "Beginner" in green |
| 22:41.08 | Nathan2055 | There don't appear to be any beginner tasks for Haiku. |
| 22:42.06 | Evan_M | I see a bunch, have your tried clicking the sort button another time? |
| 22:42.37 | Nathan2055 | The minimum time to complete for me is three days. |
| 22:42.58 | unicodesnowman | all tasks have a minimum of 3 days |
| 22:43.29 | Nathan2055 | http://i.imgur.com/VduN9RS.png |
| 22:43.36 | umccullough | yo |
| 22:43.44 | unicodesnowman | looking at haiku, all he StartHere beginner tasks are taken |
| 22:44.04 | umccullough | oh, we ran out of beginner tasks again? |
| 22:44.20 | umccullough | silly students, chewing through all our beginner tasks ;) |
| 22:44.27 | Evan_M | xD |
| 22:44.28 | unicodesnowman | umccullough, so many people want to work on haiku :) |
| 22:44.46 | Evan_M | unicodesnowman, you worked with the mediawiki api yet? It's killing me |
| 22:44.56 | umccullough | i'll have scott generate a bunch more |
| 22:45.01 | Nathan2055 | It looks like the best project for my current skillset. |
| 22:45.12 | Nathan2055 | Oh man...MediaWiki |
| 22:45.34 | Nathan2055 | http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/17/conversation/coding-quality-on-wikimedia-its-gangrenous |
| 22:45.46 | Nathan2055 | There's a reason people hate their code so much. :/ |
| 22:46.23 | andre__ | it's an old project. the older the project, the more cruft. |
| 22:46.52 | andre__ | people love to work on new exciting stuff. on cleaning up code in the background... not so much. :) |
| 22:47.01 | Evan_M | Yeah, my first task for them was cleaning up exceptions in huggle, there was quite the variance in quality of them |
| 22:47.27 | unicodesnowman | Evan_M, what task are you working on right now? |
| 22:47.42 | Evan_M | I'm working on http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5877487489777664 |
| 22:48.28 | Maitreya | Hi, I need some help. I've claimed this task: https://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5876873980542976 |
| 22:48.57 | Nathan2055 | How long until the new starthere tasks go up? |
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| 22:49.16 | umccullough | Nathan2055, for haiku, i've asked Scott to generate more - i'll let you know when he does |
| 22:49.22 | Nathan2055 | Okay. |
| 22:49.35 | Nathan2055 | I'll go ahead and do the reading. |
| 22:49.55 | umccullough | which one did you want to claim specifically? |
| 22:50.02 | umccullough | we had several different ones |
| 22:50.04 | Nathan2055 | https://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5792470088548352 |
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| 22:50.29 | umccullough | ok...that's probably the easiest ;) |
| 22:51.44 | Nathan2055 | Yeah, I'm gonna have to load it up in a VM anyway, may as well get credit for it. :) |
| 22:52.06 | umccullough | heh |
| 22:52.27 | umccullough | "checkout and compile haiku" one is pretty easy (imo)...you can do that from a Haiku VM |
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| 22:52.34 | umccullough | but i'll see if we can more of the other |
| 22:52.38 | unicodesnowman | Evan_M, I am not entirely sure if that will work for a page that doesn't exist |
| 22:52.52 | Maitreya | Should I start work on the task that I've claimed before getting it assigned to me? |
| 22:52.55 | unicodesnowman | but the getTalkPage() method might help? https://github.com/WPAFC/afch-rewrite/blob/master/src/modules/core.js#L483 |
| 22:53.02 | umccullough | Maitreya, you can - is it a haiku task? |
| 22:53.34 | Maitreya | Nope, FOSSASIA. |
| 22:54.32 | Nathan2055 | Okay. |
| 22:54.46 | Evan_M | unicodesnowman, that might help, thanks! |
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| 23:00.23 | sttaylor | Maitreya: you should go on the FOSSASIA IRC channel and ask there. You can start working on the task but it is possible that they will not assign it to you. |
| 23:02.13 | Maitreya | Okay. |
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| 23:06.06 | Nathan2055 | Very impressed that Haiku offers premade VMDK files for download. I wish more OSs offered that. |
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| 23:15.04 | umccullough | Nathan2055, as an... alternative OS... we have to make it as easy as possible for people to try it out ;) |
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| 23:32.06 | Nathan2055 | Alright, got Haiku up and running. Very impressive OS. It's extremely responsive considering I only allocated 1GB of RAM. |
| 23:33.48 | umccullough | heh, it runs good in 128mb - as long as you don't load too many apps ;) |
| 23:33.59 | umccullough | that's about the lower limit to get it running though |
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| 23:35.13 | umccullough | Nathan2055, in order to not bug everyone in #gsoc, feel free to chat further about haiku in #haiku |
| 23:35.30 | umccullough | also, scott's making the new tasks now |
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