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| 05:06.11 | guest1 | hi sir |
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| 08:00.19 | valorie | Garvit: this is a help channel |
| 08:00.23 | valorie | how can we help? |
| 08:00.45 | Garvit | sorry for the inconvinience caused |
| 08:00.50 | Garvit | i am new here |
| 08:01.05 | Garvit | just getting started |
| 08:01.26 | valorie | getting started with what? |
| 08:01.29 | valorie | GCi? |
| 08:01.38 | Garvit | GSoC |
| 08:01.47 | Garvit | froom the root |
| 08:02.03 | Garvit | i am not familier with IRC |
| 08:02.04 | valorie | this is a great time to prepare, for sure |
| 08:02.13 | valorie | ok |
| 08:02.23 | valorie | you're doing fine |
| 08:02.32 | Garvit | thanks :) |
| 08:02.40 | valorie | commands start with / |
| 08:03.09 | valorie | so if I type /me is silly on a new line |
| 08:03.12 | valorie | you get: |
| 08:03.16 | valorie | is silly |
| 08:03.16 | Garvit | got it |
| 08:03.41 | Garvit | is new here :) |
| 08:03.49 | Garvit | is getting started |
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| 08:05.12 | valorie | if you want advice, mine is: look around at which org you would like to work with, and dig right in |
| 08:05.27 | valorie | fix some bugs, talk with people, figure out where you'll fit |
| 08:06.13 | Garvit | i am currently going through gsoc 2014 page.. and finding out the best suited org for me |
| 08:06.34 | valorie | excellent idea |
| 08:06.38 | Garvit | actually i have some doubts |
| 08:07.01 | valorie | about what? |
| 08:07.23 | Garvit | whom do we send our applications to..Google or our org? |
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| 08:08.17 | valorie | you apply to Google, but make your proposal to the org |
| 08:08.41 | Garvit | that's a little confusing |
| 08:08.48 | valorie | in other words, you can't propose anything until you prove you meet the standards of being a student, etc. |
| 08:09.04 | valorie | don't worry, you have months before it starts |
| 08:09.22 | valorie | it's not complicated |
| 08:09.28 | Garvit | the sooner the better |
| 08:09.41 | PulkoMandy | Google is doing the administrative part, and hosting the web app where all this is done. But the org is reviewing your application |
| 08:10.01 | Garvit | so at the end it's the org who selects the students? |
| 08:10.04 | PulkoMandy | yes |
| 08:10.06 | valorie | Garvit: the most important part isn't the paperwork |
| 08:10.16 | valorie | it is building a relationship with the org |
| 08:10.42 | valorie | the org does all the work, except as PulkoMandy said |
| 08:10.53 | Garvit | ya... was just getting to know the procedure |
| 08:10.54 | valorie | and google foots the bill |
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| 12:45.25 | pranav | hi , can we approach tentative organizations for participation queries ? |
| 12:45.34 | pranav | i mean is it the right time ? |
| 12:46.24 | gevaerts | I don't think you can be too early, especially if you're trying to contribute already |
| 12:49.12 | pranav | if i am not currently contributing to a particular organization does my chance to work with the organization in gsoc becomes less ? |
| 12:50.31 | gevaerts | Well |
| 12:50.39 | gevaerts | I'd put it another way |
| 12:51.51 | gevaerts | If you get involved (in a minor way, no need to make this a full-time job!) early, picking you is much less of a risk than picking someone else who just showed up |
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| 12:52.11 | gevaerts | So if you start contributing a bit now, your chances increase |
| 12:52.28 | gevaerts | I know that's exactly the same thing you said, but it sounds more positive :) |
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| 12:53.39 | |Kev| | gevaerts: And has the additional advantage that not only are you less of a risk, but also that you might be a better pick by then as well, because of your additional knowledge you've gained. |
| 12:54.22 | |Kev| | So that's another "+1, go do small things and get to know people" from me. |
| 12:54.52 | gevaerts | Of course, if you're incompetent, *don't* contribute early |
| 12:54.59 | gevaerts | You don't want them to know :) |
| 12:55.15 | |Kev| | I think most orgs would figure that bit out during teaser tasks etc. ;) |
| 12:55.46 | gevaerts | Yes, but it's still easier to get away with :) |
| 12:56.17 | PulkoMandy | still not a reason to be shy. It's better to ask the "stupid" questions now and start learning |
| 12:56.38 | gevaerts | If you can learn, sure! |
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| 12:58.12 | pranav | Thanks ! i will really try to get involve with the orgs soon enough . |
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| 23:21.06 | flugo_ | Could someone tell me names of some small organizations. I'm not a very great coder, but I want to start with open source contributions... |
| 23:24.44 | umccullough | flugo_, for gsoc? |
| 23:25.35 | flugo_ | Maybe? Even if it's not for gsoc, it'd do. I want to start contributions first. |
| 23:26.03 | umccullough | well, for gsoc 2014, there were 190 organizations that participated, you could maybe review that list and see if any of them interest you: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 |
| 23:26.15 | umccullough | it really depend on what you want to learn/do |
| 23:28.07 | flugo_ | Yeah, I was seeing the list only. The point was, if I could get to know which are the smaller ones, which'll give me a good n easy start, that'd be better. I know python, javascript, Java and am interested in AI, ML, and even Web Development. |
| 23:29.06 | umccullough | sounds like maybe opencog would be good to look at? |
| 23:29.55 | flugo_ | all right. I'll check that out. Thank you umccullough |
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| 23:44.29 | terri | flugo_: This doesn' thelp for narrowing things down, but if you know Python... it's a huge umbrella org, but most of the individual sub-orgs are actually pretty small. |
| 23:45.37 | terri | flugo_: scikit-learn does a bunch of machine learning tasks, if that appeals. scikit-image may have AI type ones. |
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| 23:46.31 | terri | flugo_: ideas pages for those two from last year: https://github.com/scikit-learn/scikit-learn/wiki/Google-summer-of-code-(GSOC)-2014 and https://github.com/scikit-image/scikit-image/wiki/GSoC-2014 |
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| 23:48.46 | flugo_ | terri: Oh great! I'll look at scikit too. I've only used it till now. Never thought I'd be contributing to it. It always looked like a huge organization... |
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| 23:48.57 | olly | flugo_: I'm not sure "size of org" is well correlated with "difficulty of getting to grips with the code" |
| 23:50.10 | flugo_ | olly: True. It's not always that way. But, the bigger the size of organization, the more the development, the larger the code. By small, I also meant small in size of length of code....so that it doesn't take me years trying to understand what someone else has written. |
| 23:50.38 | olly | but many of the larger orgs are actually composed of a number of smaller code bases |
| 23:51.03 | olly | it's rare you'll need to understand every line of code |
| 23:51.19 | flugo_ | olly: Are those smaller code bases independent of each other? Can you give me an example? I'm new to such structure... |
| 23:51.53 | olly | well, as above, python's an umbrella for various python sub-orgs |
| 23:52.29 | olly | KDE is composed of libraries and applications |
| 23:53.46 | flugo_ | hmm. Yeah, KDE, I can imagine... |
| 23:54.00 | olly | it's too hard to maintain monolithic piles of code, so almost anything large is actually modular to at least some extent |
| 23:54.33 | flugo_ | Right. Cool. Thanks olly , I'll check some orgs out. |
| 23:57.51 | olly | and as a counter-example of smaller codebases being easier to understand: http://survex.com/~olly/rheolism/ |
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