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| 01:44.10 | IKRAM | hello all . I need help regarding GCI |
| 01:45.08 | unicodesnowman | hi IKRAM, what do you need help with? |
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| 01:45.55 | IKRAM | As googles code in rules , a person can apply for 2 begineer task , but i am not able to claim my 2nd task |
| 01:46.20 | unicodesnowman | is your first task marked as competed yet? |
| 01:46.28 | unicodesnowman | you can only have claims on one task at a time |
| 01:46.49 | IKRAM | yes |
| 01:47.48 | IKRAM | i am seeing the claim button but when i go to click , it shows "You are not allowed to operate the button named button_claim" |
| 01:48.10 | unicodesnowman | IKRAM, perhaps file an issue here: https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/list |
| 01:48.56 | unicodesnowman | to rule something else out, your ID documents have been successfully verified right? |
| 01:51.56 | IKRAM | yes |
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| 02:04.13 | IKRAM | Why this begineer task is red labeled where others are greeen labeled https://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5875673335857152 |
| 02:04.57 | andre__ | for me it's green labeled too |
| 02:05.16 | umccullough | if you're talking about the word "BEGINNER", it's green here |
| 02:05.47 | IKRAM | Maybe all is happening with me :'( |
| 02:05.55 | andre__ | IKRAM, if you get that button_claim error, does that still happen after reloading the page? |
| 02:06.10 | andre__ | (preferably by bypassing your browser cache, if you know how to do that) |
| 02:06.49 | IKRAM | No , i got it solved it was doing some times ago too , but now i have claimed my 2nd one :D |
| 02:06.53 | umccullough | interesting to see that royalharsh95 is a mentor for FOSSASIA |
| 02:07.02 | umccullough | makes a mental note to ask about that later |
| 02:07.23 | IKRAM | Havn't seen him working though :( |
| 02:07.43 | umccullough | well, he has begged to be a mentor for haiku the last two years (despite being totally uninvolved in the project) |
| 02:07.55 | umccullough | which suggests his intentions are ... suspect |
| 02:08.28 | IKRAM | What is the profit , if you can't use your mentorship power :D |
| 02:09.02 | andre__ | what "mentorship power"? :) |
| 02:09.05 | umccullough | with the number of students we've seen "gaming" the system... i don't trust anyone I don't know any more ;) |
| 02:09.51 | umccullough | it's actually quite frustrating and irritating - makes me not want to do GCI |
| 02:10.30 | IKRAM | Don't get you umccullough ? I mean "gaming system" part |
| 02:10.45 | umccullough | IKRAM, cheating |
| 02:11.00 | umccullough | or...attempting to |
| 02:11.19 | IKRAM | how can any cheat in gci ? |
| 02:11.27 | umccullough | doing the same beginner tasks twice, for example |
| 02:11.40 | umccullough | we had several students do this before we noticed |
| 02:11.48 | umccullough | apparently other orgs had the same problem |
| 02:11.58 | umccullough | or, doing the beginner task and copying someone else |
| 02:12.29 | olly | also some people think they can game the system by doing X, even if it isn't actually going to work |
| 02:12.45 | umccullough | yeah, students submitting junk work is irritating |
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| 02:12.53 | IKRAM | oh , yes , but maybe everyone is not doing this kind of work :) |
| 02:12.59 | umccullough | no, not everyone |
| 02:13.04 | umccullough | but enough to make it pretty frustrating |
| 02:13.12 | umccullough | we have lots of good students too |
| 02:13.23 | olly | there's plenty of honest people, but the ones who aren't can generate disproportionate work |
| 02:13.44 | umccullough | there seems to be a lot of pressure from certain ... schools |
| 02:13.51 | umccullough | at least, that's my impression |
| 02:13.51 | olly | at least it looks like the limit on 5 connection requests has now been implemented |
| 02:14.01 | olly | which has been annoying for gsoc |
| 02:14.14 | olly | possibly GCI too, but I've never admined for that |
| 02:14.15 | IKRAM | I did contributions to Mozilla project and I am intending to do contribution to any other project. But I haven't found any where I can this time, except the foss asia , so i started with them |
| 02:14.37 | umccullough | IKRAM, are you going to be in university next year? |
| 02:14.44 | IKRAM | yes |
| 02:14.54 | umccullough | you can take a shot at GSoC - that has many more organizations |
| 02:15.01 | umccullough | GCI is only 12, GSoC was 190 last year |
| 02:15.30 | umccullough | it is also very different - but your commitment to FOSS projects and coding will definitely help you :) |
| 02:15.42 | umccullough | orgs love to see people who are already involved |
| 02:15.53 | IKRAM | I am not good at code , I am trying to learn the ecosystem here , I think it is some kind the same , so , it would be helpful for me next year when i will apply :) |
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| 02:17.25 | IKRAM | I am a big kind of contributor of Mozilla project . Involved in maybe more than 7 projects of Mozilla :D |
| 02:17.35 | umccullough | mozilla has participated in GSoC |
| 02:18.37 | IKRAM | Yes , I know about that and student apply for Mozilla too , as the most of the student apply here are Mozilla's volunteers :) |
| 02:21.31 | IKRAM | With HTML , CSS , JavaScript , can i hope to get into GSoc ? |
| 02:22.48 | umccullough | maybe |
| 02:23.14 | umccullough | you might have to search the list of orgs and see if any are limited to that |
| 02:23.25 | umccullough | most will use at least some server-side language like php or python |
| 02:24.26 | IKRAM | so , if i can learn python in the mean time , then ? |
| 02:24.52 | umccullough | that will improve your chances, yes :) |
| 02:25.19 | IKRAM | Thanks , I got hope , now I will try to learn Python :D |
| 02:26.51 | IKRAM | Any more suggetion for me , guys ? |
| 02:33.01 | IKRAM | And if you know , any contribution opportunity , please share :) |
| 02:37.45 | IKRAM | By the way , thank you all for your help , specially umccullough :) |
| 02:41.42 | umccullough | you're welcom |
| 02:41.43 | umccullough | e |
| 02:41.49 | umccullough | good luck |
| 02:42.47 | IKRAM | thanks :) |
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| 04:17.18 | Evan_M | So all you other GCI people, how are you doing? |
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| 04:30.35 | unicodesnowman | Evan_M, well, how are you doing? |
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| 04:39.36 | IKRAM | in GCI , some mentors have some serious issue -_- |
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| 04:58.45 | Evan_M | unicodesnowman, a bit of a late reply, but Im doing pretty well, how about you? |
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| 05:06.05 | unicodesnowman | Evan_M, bit exhausted from investigating a very strange bug. working on anything? |
| 05:08.56 | Evan_M | Just finishing off a documentation task, I've been a bit distracted the past few days helping to setup a gaming community with some friends after the one we had been with for awhile closed suddenly. All the technical parts of it are pretty cool, in my opinion, which is part of the reason I'm really glad I met some of these people |
| 05:09.37 | Evan_M | One of them is a pretty dang good programmer, in my opinion, and boy have I learned a lot from him, both directly and indirectly |
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| 05:14.34 | unicodesnowman | Evan_M, that's awesome! has he being coding for long? |
| 05:17.29 | Evan_M | unicodesnowman, I'd have to ask him because I forget, but I know he's been doing it for more than a few years now, just not sure what the actual timescale is |
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| 05:24.57 | Evan_M | unicodesnowman, It's been nice talking to you, but I should probably go to bed, it's 12:24 AM where I live, and I need some sleep. I'll be back in 7-8 hours, so I might see you then. Anyway, take care! |
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| 05:25.19 | unicodesnowman | bye! |
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| 13:03.21 | PyCoffee | Hello! |
| 13:03.45 | YashM | Hey there |
| 13:04.08 | PyCoffee | Any first timers for gsoc 2015? |
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| 13:10.23 | PyCoffee | Hey! |
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| 14:03.37 | teepee- | Garvit: check the documentation of you irc client. if using the webpage you can disable that in the options (black arrow top left) |
| 14:04.31 | Garvit | i am currently using hexchat |
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| 14:39.32 | VarunAgw_ | Check FAQ of hexchat |
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| 15:06.45 | MrSavage | You guys said that you accept 190 people and pay them $5000 each. That's like 1 million no? |
| 15:07.00 | MrSavage | I'm quite surprised google spends that much |
| 15:10.34 | seadog007 | I can't view this page |
| 15:10.40 | seadog007 | http://www.gcil.cf/ |
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| 15:11.05 | PlkMndy | MrSavage: it is. |
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| 15:11.48 | MrSavage | is it common for companies to spend money like that? |
| 15:12.00 | MrSavage | since i don't see google seeing much return |
| 15:12.07 | PlkMndy | MrSavage: the idea is that Google uses a lot of open source projects in many ways, and it's their interest to have as much people as possible to dive into open source development |
| 15:12.18 | MrSavage | that is true |
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| 15:13.24 | PlkMndy | there is a common problem that a lot of schools have good computer science courses, but not much software engineering ones (because this is a rather new thing), and it's not really something you can completely learn at school anyway |
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| 15:13.56 | PlkMndy | having students do some real-world tasks on a big open source project results in more skilled software engineers |
| 15:14.46 | PlkMndy | and to complete that there is now Google Code-In which targets 13-17 years old students to make them pick a degree in computer science in the first place |
| 15:15.13 | MrSavage | PlkMndy: what kind of software engineering courses you pertaining to? |
| 15:15.16 | PlkMndy | also, Google gets a "hey look, we help open source projects, we're cool!" karma bonus |
| 15:15.51 | MrSavage | PlkMndy: you mean like requirement analysis type of stuff? where you give that to your client? |
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| 15:16.49 | PlkMndy | MrSavage: this probably depends on which country and which school you go to. In my case I felt that there was a lot of the theorical stuff (computer architectures, distributed algorithms, ...) |
| 15:17.05 | PlkMndy | but then that may also match some of the problems Google has with running such big services |
| 15:17.37 | MrSavage | PlkMndy: are you organizing GSoC? or are you a veteran of working in it? |
| 15:19.46 | PlkMndy | I was a student in 2009, and a mentor in 2010,11,12,14 |
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| 15:21.48 | MrSavage | ah |
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| 17:09.18 | meflin | passes out tea |
| 17:09.28 | carols | hey meflin |
| 17:09.32 | carols | thanks for the tea |
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| 17:10.25 | pranav | ^ can you explian me ehat is a tea here in irc "lingo" ? |
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| 17:11.07 | meflin | tea is tea ... |
| 17:11.48 | meflin | today's tea is this one -> http://captea.com/collections/black-teas/products/rembeng-estate-organic |
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| 17:13.22 | MatthewWilkes | carols! Sorry for the paperwork runaround. Not quite sure why it's been such a faff at our end, but glad you've got what you need now. |
| 17:13.53 | meflin | my paperworks _should_ be done now :\ quite the fiasco here as well |
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| 17:14.32 | gevaerts | pranav: handing out and drinking virtual tea is a #gsoc thing. Nothing special about it, except the regulars feel lost if it's not done |
| 17:14.51 | meflin | tea is serious business |
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| 17:15.25 | gevaerts | meflin is one of those regulars :) |
| 17:15.46 | pranav | haha ! so tea cant given to anybody here :) |
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| 17:16.00 | umccullough | everyone can have tea, i prefer coffee |
| 17:16.08 | meflin | no no everyone gets a tea |
| 17:16.13 | meflin | passes pranav a tea |
| 17:16.21 | gevaerts | Sometimes you also get cookies or cake |
| 17:16.31 | umccullough | or chocolate? |
| 17:16.33 | pranav | thanks for the tea meflin |
| 17:16.45 | meflin | even umccullough tho he prefers inferior beverages ;) |
| 17:16.47 | gevaerts | umccullough: the chocolate is real! |
| 17:16.56 | pranav | i would really prefer chocolate over tea :D |
| 17:17.03 | umccullough | you can have both |
| 17:17.14 | gevaerts | puts some chocolate over pranav's tea |
| 17:17.16 | meflin | as the summit proved :D |
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| 17:17.34 | pranav | haha i am enjoying here :D |
| 17:17.36 | carols | MatthewWilkes: thanks, weâre good :-) |
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| 17:22.44 | MatthewWilkes | carols: I hope the other projects go more smoothly! |
| 17:22.55 | carols | MatthewWilkes: me too :-) |
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| 18:24.42 | nuboro_ | i am on gco where can i see if i can get prizes ? |
| 18:25.36 | carols | nuboro_: do you mean gci? |
| 18:25.44 | nuboro_ | yes |
| 18:25.48 | carols | nuboro_: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2014/help_page#prizes |
| 18:26.47 | nuboro_ | i know that , but i am not sure if i downloaded the Form uploads by time |
| 18:27.17 | carols | nuboro_: iâm not quite sure what you mean? the contest is still going on, prixes arenât distributed until after the contest. |
| 18:27.22 | carols | *prizes |
| 18:27.29 | nuboro_ | yes |
| 18:27.34 | YashM_ | He means if he is elligible to get prizes |
| 18:27.48 | nuboro_ | Remember, you only have to do this once, but PARTICIPANTS WHO FAIL TO RETURN A SIGNED PARENTAL CONSENT AND STUDENT ID within 48 hours of completing their first task WILL BE INELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE ANY PRIZES. We want to send you prizes, so we suggest doing this immediately. |
| 18:28.02 | carols | nuboro_: you submitted them, yes? |
| 18:28.08 | nuboro_ | yes |
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| 18:28.17 | carols | nuboro_: did you get notification that they were late? |
| 18:28.22 | nuboro_ | no |
| 18:28.47 | carols | nuboro_: okay, our administrators are emailing everyone who either submits incomplete forms and/or doesnât do it in a timely manner |
| 18:28.54 | nuboro_ | ok |
| 18:28.58 | nuboro_ | thanks |
| 18:28.59 | carols | so if you donât get such a notification donât worry |
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