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00:12.04downeyMaybe in another 10 years ;-)
00:12.14downey... On a plane
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00:27.28Alex-anderhi everyone
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01:03.27kragnizAlex-ander: hello
01:04.38Alex-anderkragniz : hey, i need resources to practice my programming in java any suggestions?
01:06.15kragnizAlex-ander: try writing applications which solve problems for yourself
01:06.53Alex-ander+1
01:06.59deshrajdryAlex-ander: I totally agree with kragnix :)
01:07.44Alex-anderkragniz : u code in which language?
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01:08.32kragnizAlex-ander: I like python and C
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01:23.18Alex-anderkragniz : why does ur name appear in red?
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01:25.13kragnizAlex-ander: not sure, probably your irc client
01:26.05Alex-anderi thought u must be some highly experienced coder like in topcoder :p
01:26.45meflina large number of irc clients change the colour when your nick is used
01:27.09olly"Alex-ander" contains "red" backwards
01:28.07Alex-anderanyway, i'm new to this irc group(i think thats what its called). someone plz tell me what kind of discussions happen here?
01:28.22Alex-anderobviously related to gsoc but what kind of?
01:30.04meflinabout the program itself
01:30.20meflineach org has its own communication channels
01:32.58Alex-andera / help
01:33.05Alex-andersorry
01:34.19Alex-anderaway 5min
01:34.52meflinyou do not need to tell 300 people such things
01:35.12Alex-anderjumps
01:35.23Alex-anderis new
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11:03.30hmishraSomebody tell , how to learn GUI , if i have a strong background over C++
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12:33.43hieuhoanghello. i'm new to this so not sure if this channel is the best place to ask questions
12:34.33downeyDepends on the question. :-)
12:34.46hieuhoangI've just uploaded organisational profile and project plan. Was wondering if any googlers can point out any obvious mistakes with the application
12:37.02downeyhieuhoang: In the past carols has been willing to look at ideas pages while she is here but not sure about the application questionnaire itself
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13:52.26moon_How  many java people are here?
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13:53.02kragnizmoon_: I'm sure plenty of people here know java!
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13:53.53moon_Am just wondering whether I should use java or C# for my banking application
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13:54.19exploreshaifalikragniz, plenty does not give concrete answer :P
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13:57.12kragnizexploreshaifali: unless there's a madatory poll for java programmers, I don't think we'll ever have a concrete answer :P
13:57.50exploreshaifalikragniz, yea :)
13:57.55moon_kragniz, exploreshaifali: Let's do a head count for java ;)
13:58.53gevaertsjava has many heads
14:00.10exploreshaifalibtw kragniz "liberty" won!
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14:01.00kragnizexploreshaifali: I was heartbroken
14:01.15exploreshaifalikragniz, oooaaaa :(
14:01.51gvsijava guy here! o/
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14:07.22rounaki am first year student of iit kgp
14:07.30rounakbye
14:07.33rounak:)
14:07.44psdokay bye :P
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14:08.02rounak:D
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14:08.43psdrounak, awesome!
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14:12.08Guest86087Anyone has any idea if there are freshman year friendly organizations?
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14:19.17KolibriOS|yogevGuest86087: Most organizations have tasks of different complexity. There are hard tasks and easy tasks in the ideas list.
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14:40.11Alex-anderhow to check the prev msg history on this channel?
14:40.43MatthewWilkesAlex-ander: You cannot
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14:41.49gevaerts!logs | Alex-ander
14:41.49gsocbotAlex-ander: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
14:42.02Alex-ander!logs
14:42.02gsocbotAlex-ander: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
14:42.16Alex-anderthanks gevaerts :)
14:44.07Alex-andercan someone walk me through the whole process of the gsoc application, proposal etc
14:44.28gevaertsHave you read the faq and the student guide?
14:44.48Alex-anderi have already the info at this site
14:44.48Alex-anderhttp://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/
14:44.56Alex-anderyes faq too
14:45.40Alex-anderi dont want to know the process as such
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14:45.59Alex-anderi dunno how to put it.  i hope u got it
14:47.06Alex-anderlike the ideas list, can i see the ideas list of organizations before they are reg
14:47.30Alex-andergavaerts?
14:47.37gevaertsreg?
14:47.50gevaertslooks around to see if gavaerts is here
14:47.59Alex-anderregistered
14:48.06gevaertsMaybe
14:48.26gevaertsMany organisations have their draft ideas lists public
14:48.41gevaertsIf you're looking for a central list of them though, you're out of luck
14:48.58Alex-anderwhere can i get the list of organzations which were part of gsoc last year
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14:49.17Alex-anderlike a proper list. although i can figure out using the accepted projects link
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15:56.37dannyb648Do we know when the Ideas lists will come out for each Org? And will google have a consolidated list on the gsoc page?
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16:03.03kragnizdannyb648: some orgs have their ideas page already up
16:03.55tierradannyb648: most of the orgs already have theirs online, usually at the same location they've been in past years (so hitting older year pages is often helpful: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 )
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16:05.12tierrathere will be a similar list published for 2015 once participating orgs are announced, but that's not until the 24th
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16:20.33ben___the FAQ here http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#5._What_tax_related_documentation_is      says that a "For _organizations_ based outside the United States, we will need a completed IRS form W8-BEN.    But that form is for individuals.  Should students submit their own forms?  Otherwise is the W8-BEN-E form for entities/organisations suitable?
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16:29.49ben___Is it that IRS form W-8BEN used to apply to entities, but (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw8bene.pdf) indicates W-8BEN-E is not required.       "The Form W-8BEN-E reflects changes made by the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA) and is for use by beneficial owners that are entities. Entities also may use the Form W-8BEN (revision date February 2006) through December 31, 2014."
16:29.49ben___correction >> but (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw8bene.pdf) indicates W-8BEN-E is now required
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16:32.25NikolaiToryzinben___: You'd want to speak to an accountant or tax professional
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16:52.46MatthewWilkesben___: Are you asking as an organisation or as a student?
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17:05.54carolsserves some tea and coffee
17:06.11oddvarrejoice!
17:06.16downeyooh, tea
17:06.41carolshi downey
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17:07.11downeyhi, carols!
17:07.14carols:-)
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17:10.27carolshope you’re doing well downey
17:11.05MatthewWilkescarols!
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17:11.09carolshi MatthewWilkes
17:11.11carolshow are you?
17:11.28MatthewWilkesI'm good thanks, just got back from a week in NI on-site with a client
17:11.30MatthewWilkeshow're you?
17:11.53carolsgood, thanks. just really busy with gsoc now that’s it’s back in full swing
17:12.29ben___@MatthewWilkes - I am asking from the perspective of an organisation.  The org is a non-profit in France.  I am interested in what is required from a book keeping perspective.  Do the student stipends go through the org to be paid to the student, or direct to the student?
17:13.34carolsben___: there are two payments. the students’ stipends go to the students. the mentoring stipends go to the organization
17:14.24MatthewWilkescarols: ben___ made the very good point that the W8-BEN was retired at the end of 2014
17:14.32MatthewWilkescarols: The IRS says the replacement is the W8-BEN-E
17:14.36carolsMatthewWilkes: okay
17:14.46MatthewWilkesMight be something for you to speak to your purchasing department about?
17:14.54carolswhat is the concern?
17:14.55ben___Thanks carols.  I notice that here (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw8bene.pdf)
17:15.24carolsben___: okay, so you’re representing an org or you’re a student?
17:16.34ben___I'm representing an org (though someone else may end up our official GSoC Admin)
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17:17.18carolsben___: alright, so when and if you are accepted into gsoc and when and if your org decides you want to receive the payment directly and not use a fiscal sponsor, that would be the point at which you would speak to our A/P team directly about what form is appropriate for your situation as a google supplier
17:17.32carolsbut really, that’s a lot of “when and ifs” and won’t be something you need to care about until...august?
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17:17.37carolsso really, don’t worry about it
17:17.52carolswhen the time comes we can talk about it
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17:18.20carolsyou can also just not accept the payment
17:18.23carolsthere’s lots of options
17:18.33carolsthe form is really a tiny component of the whole thing :-)
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17:19.09MatthewWilkesBut, who doesn't love forms? :)
17:19.10ben___cool.  just my ocd exception-neurons going wild again   * ben picks up the wac-a-mole bat
17:19.39carolsben___: focus on the application and your ideas page
17:19.55carolsthe first step of the process is to apply and be accepted
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17:20.33carolsand that’s something you can get particular about _now_ :-)
17:20.35MatthewWilkesAnd, despite what you may have heard, dealing with the IRS isn't scary. It took me about 30 minutes to go from nothing to having a valid W8-BEN sent last time I needed one.
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17:24.40MatthewWilkesI was careless in Belfast. Now I have all this silly Danske Bank paper money that nobody here's going to want to take.
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17:27.59ben___Our existing ideas page has about 40 topics, though it does need grooming to make sure it has all the info required by GSoC.
17:28.26carolsben___: well, good luck :-)
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17:31.38ben___thanks carols and matthew.  out.
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17:32.47ESphynxcarols: I went from 13 ideas to over 60 :| now I need to fill them all up :S
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17:34.29carolsESphynx: a very good problem to have :-)
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17:38.24Alex-ander!log
17:38.24gsocbotAlex-ander: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
17:38.39Alex-anderwhoami
17:38.44Alex-ander!whoami
17:38.45gsocbotAlex-ander: I don't recognize you.
17:40.14carolsAlex-ander: can i help you with something?
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17:44.21Alex-anderyes carols
17:44.30carolsAlex-ander: sure, what’s the question?
17:45.00Alex-ander1.why is there not much discussion going on here?
17:45.10Alex-ander2.!log is not working
17:45.33carolsAlex-ander: 1) because it ebbs and flows. if you have a specific question you’d like to ask about the program you’re more than welcome to
17:45.36carols2) it’s !logs
17:45.47Alex-ander!logs
17:45.47gsocbotAlex-ander: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
17:46.12Alex-anderthanks
17:46.33carolscheers
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17:50.39carolsAlex-ander: i’m also happy to answer any questions you have as well.
17:50.47carolsserves some more tea and coffee
17:52.02Alex-andercarols: i have none as such but i will remember :)
17:52.08Alex-anderwait!
17:52.15Alex-andercarols: r u a gsocer?
17:52.22carolsAlex-ander: no, i’m not, sorry
17:53.01Alex-anderu r an aspirant,, i suppose?
17:53.07carolsAlex-ander: nope, sorry.
17:53.14carolsguess i can’t help you after all :-/
17:54.06Alex-anderwhat are u then? no no, its not like that
17:54.14carolsAlex-ander: i’m the program administrator
17:54.16carolsand a person.
17:54.20Alex-anderthere is a lot i don't know that u do
17:54.32carolsAlex-ander: i do a lot of different things.
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17:55.00Alex-anderwhat are those different things?
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17:55.39Alex-anderif im nobeing polite, pardon me :)
17:55.42Alex-andernot*
17:55.49carolsAlex-ander: i’m the community manager, i speak about the program, i administer the program itself, i’m the event coordinator for the mentor summit at the end of the year, and i’m also a member of the ospo team to do general work managing our relationships with open source software organizations
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17:56.58Alex-anderok..
17:57.02ty221Hello!
17:57.08carolshi ty221
17:57.10Alex-anderhello
17:57.12ty221hi carlos!
17:57.16carolsit’s carols
17:57.18ty221hi Alex-ander!
17:57.18carolsbut hello
17:57.18downeyAlex-ander: carols also makes the 2nd best tea around here, after meflin
17:57.24ty221sorry
17:57.34ty221So "hi carols!" :-)
17:57.40ESphynxAlex-ander: did you read the FAQ? :) https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page
17:57.49Alex-anderyes
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17:58.40ty221I am so sad I can't participate in GSOC :(
17:58.45downeymeflin: which reminds me, will the tea room join the chocolate room at mentor summit again this year?
17:59.02meflinI am inclined to make it so
17:59.21downeymeflin: seemed to be a success last year
17:59.46meflinequipment had been stashed in cali for just that use
17:59.46ESphynxwhen is the summit again
17:59.55ESphynxoctober
18:00.06downeycarl: the robot tea infusers were an awesome idea btw
18:00.08ESphynxhoping I get to go :)
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18:00.33downeyESphynx: keep polishing that ideas page and your odds will be strong :)
18:00.49meflinyea the asam I brought was gone basically end of Saturday
18:01.23ty221Can you ping me when Stephanie joins?
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18:02.19ESphynxdowney: thanks :) hope that's true. working on it hard.
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18:03.33ESphynxwe've already grabbed the interest of 3 students with the currnet one :P
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18:04.03downeyESphynx: awesome
18:04.33downeyESphynx: you might be able to ask them for feedback to improve the page before the application window closes
18:04.48downey"What resources did you need that were missing?" etc
18:05.00ESphynxyes doing that as well... also regardless of GSoC, I think this is a good thing to have a clearer description of how one can contribute to the project...
18:05.21downeyESphynx: agreed, GSoC really helped our project "grow up" in that regard
18:05.51ESphynxI guess in 2009 / 2010 when we had applied it wasn't so clear what was expected of an ideas page?
18:06.01ESphynxOr I just did not put enough effort in it :S
18:06.27ESphynxand missed out on 5 years of good contributions, by GSoCers and others :P
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18:09.15carolsESphynx: well, to be fair, you are an open source community that can do your own promotion to get new developers into your community. :-) not every open source org participates in gsoc or neds gsoc to get new developers :-)
18:09.47carols*needs
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18:12.26ESphynxcarols: we are but what I'm saying is you're making me realize that perhaps a good ideas page is what has been missing for all those years, and now you're twisting my arm to fix this and I'm thankful for it.
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18:12.51carolsESphynx: ah, well, yes in that case i agree :-) the ideas page is the most important part of the application
18:13.41ESphynxcarols: i.e. what was missing to bring in more contributors to the project, through GSoC or otherwise
18:13.49carolsyes, indeed
18:14.08carolscompletely agreed
18:15.09ESphynxcarols: if we do not get accepted this year, I may be bugging you guys a little bit about suggestions on other ways to promote contribution to open-source projects :P
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18:16.00carolsESphynx: ah, well, that’s a topic that lots of people have got opinions about and i hear talked about at lots of conferences. dberkholz has a talk he gave at FOSDEM on exactly that topic iirc
18:16.28oddvarcarols (or anyone) - the ideas page is only reviewed after the proposal deadline right? so if I submit a placeholder page now that's not a problem?
18:16.40carolsoddvar: no, that’s not a problem now.
18:16.50oddvarok thanks
18:16.52carolsjust make sure you do indeed go back and fix it before the deadline :-)
18:16.57ESphynxcarols: is there a summary of that talk somewhere :)
18:16.58oddvarhehe yes
18:17.10carolsno one from my team is looking at the applications now, nor do we want to :-)
18:17.24carolswe spend enough time sequested in conference rooms for the application review
18:17.36carolsESphynx: sure, i’ll go take a look for it
18:17.41ESphynxthanks
18:18.31jzaeffererFor organizations applying for the first time, where could I find someone to take a look at application and ideas list? Would be sad to get rejected due to some smallish formal error
18:18.44carolsjzaefferer: we don’t look at applications.
18:18.55carolsi’m happy to review your ideas page for general guidelines.
18:18.55jzaeffereryeah, I got that notion, makes sense.
18:19.09jzaeffererthat's something :-)
18:19.11carolsbut please keep in mind it has no bearing on acceptance
18:19.25jzaeffererThe ToC is a work in progress, otherwise most of it is done: https://github.com/jquery/gsoc/wiki/GSoC-2015-Ideas-List
18:20.10MatthewWilkesjzaefferer: You'll find that many of the people here that don't represent google will be willing to give informal feedback, too, but we also make smallish formal errors, so it's worth making a checklist from the rules and from other good examples to check yours against
18:21.28jzaeffererMatthewWilkes: do you have an example for a good application? Since the actual applications aren't public, a draft somewhere?
18:21.33carolsjzaefferer: firstly, it’s just easier to review and look at if you organize the ideas by difficulty level, from easy to hard. second, i’d recommend a “blue sky” proposal option at the bottom for students to suggest something to you instead. finally, you need to make sure _all_ the ideas are fleshed out, not just most of them
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18:22.14carolsjzaefferer: we don’t publish samepl applications, but there are sample ideas pages all over the web. the questions we ask on the application are yours alone to answer.
18:22.28jzaeffererokay, thank you, that helps
18:22.35carolsjzaefferer: no one else can tell you how you’re going to deal with a mentor disappearing :-)
18:22.41jzaeffererheh, yeah
18:23.02jzaefferer"well, we gps-track all our mentors!!1"
18:23.12arthurvrlol :-)
18:24.09carolsjzaefferer: well, every year for gsoc an inordinate amount of grandmothers get sick and people have to care for them and leave gsoc
18:24.16carolsso you need to plan out how you’ll deal with that
18:24.32MatthewWilkesjzaefferer: You'll find some org apps from searching. The ideas lists are the easiest though
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18:25.18gevaerts"Plan for dealing with disappearing mentors: inoculation of grandmothers"
18:25.25carolsgevaerts: :-)
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18:25.50MatthewWilkesThe disappearing questions might seem like unlikely scenarios, but I promise, you'll be glad you've thought of them in advance. While I've been involved in GSoC I've seen an org-admin got AWOL, mentors go AWOL, students go AWOL and even mentors think they should cover for students that have gone AWOL
18:26.02carolswhat MatthewWilkes said.
18:26.09jzaeffererI haven't seen anything that suggest we need to provide a template for students to apply, like this one: https://code.google.com/p/openintents/wiki/GSoCApplication - is that still a thing?
18:26.10MatthewWilkesStudents won't tell you their mentor is AWOL, either
18:26.15MatthewWilkesthey'll suffer in silence
18:26.18MatthewWilkesyou have to check up on them
18:26.21carolsjzaefferer: it’s up to you if you want one or not.
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18:31.06downeyThat one's the worst
18:32.48downeyThese days we're asking for 360° feedback weekly from both students and mentors, seems to help prevent it because it's easier to catch
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18:34.41downeyESphynx: new contributors of *any* type need to see very quickly how they can contribute or they will very quickly lose interest
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18:35.43gevaertsbah
18:35.44downeyESphynx: so the ideas page is important for GSoC, but similar list of bugs or project ideas is just as valuable for "drive by" potential new contributors
18:35.50gevaertsfinds the right window
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18:36.00downeygevaerts: --->
18:36.09gevaertsdowney: thanks!
18:36.14downey:)
18:36.17downeytea
18:36.25downeygoes back to the echo chamber
18:36.54ESphynxdowney: right, well that's what we'll do right... we'll just replace 'GSoC' by 'Contribution' Ideas if we do not get selected
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18:37.23downeyESphynx: not a horrible way to go
18:38.53downeyESphynx: if you end up in gsoc, those students are super valuable knowledge sources because they were "recently new". They are really helpful to guide other new contributors too
18:40.10ESphynxdowney: definitely I can see that.
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19:10.53gsoc557hi
19:11.05carolsgsoc557: hi
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19:11.23Guest86087gsoc55: hello
19:11.33gsoc557I wanted to know that how to connect to gsoc mentors
19:11.35gsoc557?
19:11.46gsoc557i am applyting for the first time
19:12.04carolsgsoc557: well, do you mean you just want to volunteer for an open source org at this point?
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19:12.17carolswe haven’t chosen orgs for this year, so there’s no “Gsoc mentors” for this year’s program just yet
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19:13.05gsoc557okk Carol.But do we not need to get in touch from before
19:13.12Guest86087you can check the previous GSoC accepted orgs and connect with them trough their organization forums and irc
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19:13.37carolsgsoc557: well, we always recommend getting involved in open source communities early, regardless of the gsoc program
19:14.22gsoc557what about the projects Sir ? I am expert in java and learner in python
19:14.44gsoc557Is it sufficient for me to for gsoc
19:14.56gsoc557*go
19:15.01Guest86087!faq
19:15.02gsocbotGuest86087: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page
19:15.18gsoc557thanks
19:15.34Guest86087you might want to check  the faq, some of your questios are there and have really good answers
19:17.00gsoc557can you provide me some irc channels where i can have discussion about upcoming projects ?
19:17.20Guest86087you can find their irc channels usually at their own web pages
19:17.32carolsgsoc557: the irc channel will depend on the org. what org do you want to volunteer for?
19:18.20gevaertsgsoc557: if you haven't read it yet, I'd also recommend having a look at the student guide
19:18.28gevaerts!studentguide | gsoc557
19:18.28gsocbotgsoc557: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/
19:18.42Guest86087just so you have an idea of the orgs that were aproved last year, check this page it might be useful in your case too
19:18.44Guest86087https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2014
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19:38.57slurpeeDoes GSoC have an official social media hash tag?
19:40.51panzoneslurpee: last year I've used #gsoc and #gsoc2015 for every tweet or g+ post about my work, but I don't know if they was "official" or not
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19:41.26ty221Hi sttaylor !
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19:43.39slurpeethanks panzone
19:46.44sttaylorhi ty221
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21:22.18felixrhi
21:22.44felixrI'm from Agora Voting, an organization devoted to develop a secure secret ballot voting system
21:22.50carolsfelixr: hi there
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21:43.15carolsfelixr: is there something i can help you with?
21:43.22carolsor were you just saying hello?
21:44.11felixrcarols: I was just saying hello but now that we are at it..
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21:45.36felixrwe are a small organization, we have lots of ideas but only a mentor (me) and a backup mentor so there will be a big disparity between the number of ideas and the number of students we can accept
21:45.50felixris that ok or should we present a smaller number of ideas?
21:45.56carolsthat’s fine. just don’t ask for more slots then you want
21:46.32felixrabsolutely, just one or two would be fine
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21:47.14ignaciohi everybody
21:47.34carolshi ignacio
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21:56.31ESphynxfelixr: we
21:56.36ESphynxwe're kind of in the same boat :P
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23:03.25tkamppeterhi, I have a problem with regeistering for the org application.
23:03.35carolstkamppeter: sure, what’s the problem?
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23:07.01tkamppetercarols, sorry was logged in with wrong Google account.
23:07.16carolsokay
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23:08.25tkamppetercaros I am logged in correctly now. My user name till_kamppeter (from last year) appears. How can I access my profile and get the form for the org application.
23:08.49carolstkamppeter: you clicked on “Create a profile” on the front page?
23:09.01tkamppetercarols, NO
23:09.06tkamppeterCA
23:09.09carolsokay, that’s the first step
23:09.09tkamppeterD+ V+3WN NKJMNSFVMN
23:09.38tkamppetercarols, trying again. can I not reuse my 2014 profile?
23:09.45ollyplease remove the cat from your keyboard and try again
23:09.56carolstkamppeter: nope, you have to create a new profile for each new year of the program
23:10.00tkamppeterKill -9 cat
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23:12.43tkamppetercarols, why is this data always deleted and has to get re-created?
23:12.57carolstkamppeter: i’m not sure, that’s the way the melange developers designed it
23:13.52ollytkamppeter: you could open an issue (if there isn't one already)
23:14.40ollypresumably you'd still need to agree to the current years T&Cs, but the address info etc could at least be pre-filled
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23:15.34phrobbcarols:  for those organizations that have completed their applications well ahead of the deadline, is it possible to ask for the GSoC admins to review the application and comment on any blatant oversights?  I would hate to think that I was finished only to find out at the last minute that something critical was missing/wrong
23:15.48carolsphrobb: no, we dont review applications
23:15.50carolsonly ideas pages
23:16.33phrobbI'd take what I can get ;-)  You wouldn't mind taking a look out my project's idea's page?
23:16.54carolsphrobb: sure, i can let you know if i think the formatting and ideas look presented correctly
23:17.54phrobbThank you very much for the kind offer.  I represent the OpenDaylight project and our ideas page is here: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/InternProjects:Main
23:19.06carolsphrobb: looks great to me, i can’t find any errors that jump out at me from here
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23:19.25phrobbThanks for taking the time carols.  It is much appreciated!
23:19.29carolscheers
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23:21.54tkamppetercarols, thank you very much. It is all working now.
23:21.58carolscheers
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23:42.28sivsushruth@carols: is it possible for you to provide the rails ideas list for the coming GSOC ?
23:43.05carolssivsushruth: rails?
23:43.13carolsi have no idea what their ideas list is
23:43.16carolsdid you ask them?
23:43.26sivsushruthi cant find any mentor online
23:43.40carolssivsushruth: are you sure they’re even applying this year?
23:43.49sivsushruthI definitely hope so
23:44.01carolssivsushruth: well, that’s something to speak to them directly about
23:44.02sivsushruthThe only org i intended to apply to
23:44.04carolsi know nothing about it :-)
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23:44.14sivsushruthcool, thanks for letting me know
23:44.17carolscheers
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23:50.23valoriewhat? carols is all-knowing, all-seeing
23:50.42valorieall tea-pouring
23:50.49meflinsnicker :)

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