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| 06:33.38 | gsocbot | wret: "next" is Student application period opens on March 16th at 19:00 UTC. |
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| 06:34.51 | gsocbot | souvikd: "next" is Student application period opens on March 16th at 19:00 UTC. |
| 06:36.03 | valorie | eek, why is time passing so quickly! |
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| 06:37.03 | souvikd | exactly! I have not even come up with an idea for this year yet. |
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| 06:39.04 | valorie | souvikd: have you found an org you like? |
| 06:39.35 | valorie | I would say that the org and team are more important than an idea at this point |
| 06:39.46 | souvikd | valorie : I would like to work on KDE applications. |
| 06:39.53 | valorie | oh very cool |
| 06:40.07 | valorie | I'm one of the org admins for KDE |
| 06:40.10 | souvikd | actually, this is m first time, so I am not very accustomed to everything. |
| 06:40.25 | souvikd | valorie: that's great :) |
| 06:40.58 | souvikd | i participated in SoK, and I enjoyed it. I am looking forward to contributing in gsoc as well. |
| 06:41.04 | valorie | for us at least, we're looking for a student who will not only write a kickass proposal, but who will be around a long time to support their code |
| 06:41.21 | valorie | ah, I thought your nick looked familiar |
| 06:42.06 | souvikd | oh, i have always been interested in open source.. |
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| 06:43.43 | valorie | sure, lots are interested |
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| 06:43.59 | valorie | but only the few, the proud bother to contribute |
| 06:44.15 | valorie | I often can't even talk people into filing bugs |
| 06:44.52 | souvikd | well, the first idea I had was to work on kbruch. its UI seems a bit oudated, maybe that could be worked upon and ported to qml. And introduce some other nice features. |
| 06:45.38 | souvikd | laziness sometimes gets the better of most people. :D |
| 06:46.01 | valorie | please talk to -edu folks |
| 06:46.16 | valorie | they much prefer to support working applications, for sure |
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| 06:49.02 | souvikd | well, i had pinged at kde-edu asking for a name for the maintainer or anyone familiar with kbruch, but hit a dead end. Got to know that the application has been not active of late, and I was told to try the mailing list, which again was not fruitful. |
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| 06:49.40 | souvikd | seems like, I have to work on some other application :) |
| 06:49.41 | valorie | that whole group has been decimated lately - not from lack of enthusiasm, but just life stuff |
| 06:49.52 | valorie | best to take this to #kde-soc |
| 06:49.58 | valorie | not really on-topic here |
| 06:50.07 | souvikd | ok thank you, will try there.. :) |
| 06:50.20 | valorie | that's a good chan to hang out in anyway |
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| 06:53.41 | souvikd | btw, I was glad to hear KDE being again accepted as one of the organisations for GSoC :) |
| 06:54.20 | valorie | me too |
| 06:54.34 | valorie | no sure thing since it was my first time to write the application |
| 06:55.32 | souvikd | congrats! :) nailed it first time! |
| 07:01.52 | valorie | ty |
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| 07:41.02 | eMBee | souvikd: what is SoK? |
| 07:42.29 | souvikd | Season of KDE. its a program for encouraging students to contribute to open-source/ |
| 07:42.42 | nurupo | eMBee: https://community.kde.org/SoK |
| 07:43.03 | eMBee | ah, thanks |
| 07:43.21 | nurupo | Soul Offering: KDE |
| 07:43.25 | nurupo | :) |
| 07:43.39 | eMBee | hehe |
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| 07:49.02 | valorie | eMBee: we can discuss more in #kde-soc if you are interested |
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| 07:51.53 | eMBee | thanks, was just curious. i may be interested to copy the idea if none of the proposals for projects i am mentoring get accepted ... |
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| 07:53.01 | valorie | it's an excellent program, and I hope more FOSS orgs adopt something similar |
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| 08:00.21 | eMBee | yes, it should like a good idea that FOSSASIA could adopt. i'll keep it in mind... |
| 08:01.01 | valorie | beware of mentor burnout though |
| 08:01.17 | valorie | we didn't start it last year until late fall |
| 08:01.48 | valorie | but if I had it to do all over again I'd do it within a month of GSoC pencil-down date |
| 08:01.58 | valorie | that's my plan this year |
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| 08:03.59 | souvikd | eMBee: may i ask what projects you are mentoring? |
| 08:04.21 | eMBee | check labs.fossasia.org |
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| 08:05.29 | eMBee | if you have questions, email to the fossasia list please so that other mentors see it too |
| 08:06.44 | souvikd | roger. |
| 08:08.37 | eMBee | valorie: mentor burnout? what's that? you mean like after 20 students bombard me with questions about my projects? ;-) |
| 08:10.28 | valorie | FOR SIX MONTHES |
| 08:10.34 | valorie | yes |
| 08:10.37 | valorie | lol |
| 08:10.42 | valorie | is no mentor |
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| 08:11.20 | valorie | I mentor occasionally in GCi and am totally wasted by the end |
| 08:11.41 | valorie | just the admin side is .... wow |
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| 08:12.09 | valorie | slightly more even this year though, which was a good change |
| 08:12.57 | eMBee | i was just going to say, this is my first time, but i have been hardned by gci so once projects are selected i expect the summer to be a bit more relaxed... (than gci) |
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| 08:15.05 | eMBee | with kde did you get many students in gci who have never programmed before? |
| 08:15.49 | valorie | the beginners, yes |
| 08:16.07 | valorie | of course we had non-coding stuff to do also |
| 08:16.19 | valorie | but dang, some of the coders were awesome |
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| 08:18.50 | eMBee | great. we didn't have so many advanced coding tasks, and towards the latter part students were asking for more... |
| 08:19.25 | eMBee | and we got a few students who remained active... |
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| 08:23.12 | valorie | right, what makes the kids look good is the mentors creating tasks with a good size and complexity |
| 08:23.18 | valorie | which takes some work |
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| 08:34.27 | Ashish237121 | !logs |
| 08:34.27 | gsocbot | Ashish237121: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 09:15.15 | akshayrk95 | Are all mentors that encouraging to beginners? (Just curious) |
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| 09:17.12 | valorie | akshayrk95: people are people, some patient, some not |
| 09:17.27 | PulkoMandy | it's the goal of GSoC to get students started with open source projects |
| 09:17.54 | valorie | this is one reason we try to have two mentors per student |
| 09:18.08 | valorie | and encourage the whole team to back up the mentors |
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| 09:19.38 | PulkoMandy | also, most open source projects do need more contributors, so they'll do everything they can to get the students to join them |
| 09:20.38 | valorie | PulkoMandy: you mean there are projects who do not need more contributors? |
| 09:20.41 | valorie | ! |
| 09:20.59 | valorie | :-) |
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| 09:24.35 | olly | i think there probably are |
| 09:25.53 | aman_d1996 | i have a doubt. Is it that a student makes a project alone or only contributes some code for it? |
| 09:26.08 | olly | though perhaps they're really software released under a FOSS licence |
| 09:26.18 | nurupo | if there are only one-two maintainers and they suddenly get ~20 pull requests per day, all of which should be throughly reviewed and can't be merged until fixed by contributors -- it becomes a bit hard to work :) |
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| 09:26.25 | valorie | aman_d1996: usually contributes to an already existing project |
| 09:26.26 | aman_d1996 | or is it that every student makes that project and the correct one is selected> |
| 09:26.32 | aman_d1996 | ok |
| 09:26.35 | valorie | perhaps adding or fixing an aspect of it |
| 09:26.55 | valorie | all of that depends on the org |
| 09:27.08 | valorie | some are little with few mentors, some are huge |
| 09:27.18 | valorie | you have to pick your favorite |
| 09:27.32 | valorie | and something that matches both your skills and interest |
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| 09:27.42 | nurupo | aman_d1996: you should really read the FAQ page |
| 09:28.30 | aman_d1996 | okay thanks for the advice |
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| 11:25.55 | curos | Hello ! I am right now 17 years and 7 months old. Am I eligible to apply in GSOC 15? |
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| 11:28.36 | |Kev| | !eligible | curos |
| 11:28.37 | gsocbot | curos: "eligible" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#1._Are_there_any_age_restrictions_on |
| 11:30.55 | curos | @|Kev| I will turn 18 during the program. |
| 11:31.30 | olly | curos: the FAQ seems clear |
| 11:31.42 | olly | you need to be >=18 when you *REGISTER* |
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| 11:32.09 | olly | if you register in 5 months time, you'll definitely miss the deadline for student proposals |
| 11:32.09 | curos | hmm. no help. I'll try next year. |
| 11:32.33 | curos | thanks. |
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| 12:07.31 | vchamakura | hi |
| 12:07.52 | vchamakura | could someone tell me how to write a good proposal? |
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