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01:11.53 | Drunkin_Gamez | Hello |
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01:13.08 | gsoc718 | Is anyone here to answer questions? |
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01:13.49 | Drunkin_Gamez | i don't know... |
01:14.31 | gsoc718 | Well, that was helpful. I was wondering if there were any known projects that are accepting multiple students for one project? |
01:16.11 | downey | Anyone here attending FOSSASIA? |
01:16.42 | gsoc718 | i dont know... |
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01:21.37 | downey | gsoc718: I'm not even sure that's allowed? |
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01:27.55 | gsoc718 | whay! |
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01:34.10 | downey | What's definitely not allowed is to have two students working together on a project. |
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01:38.20 | olly | indeed - the rules do allow them working independently on the same project, but I don't know anyone from the org side who thinks that's really a good idea |
01:39.08 | olly | either one student's code is going to get thrown away, or else there's going to need to be a messy merge of two separate implementations of the same thing |
01:39.34 | olly | gsoc718: but you should read the FAQ - it covers this |
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01:46.27 | valorie | gsoc718: there was a project that wanted student teams, but different than GSoC |
01:47.09 | valorie | it was specifically to be done within colleges where mentors and student teams would work together onsite |
01:47.24 | valorie | far different than GSoC, and not sponsored by Google |
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09:40.21 | ssk_ | Hi, I am electrical engineering student and would like to know projects in the electronics domain. I have looked up Beagleboard, I want to know if there are any more organizations in the electronics open source world. |
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09:44.15 | teepee-- | ssk_: there's at least lowRISC, probably much more lowlevel though |
09:45.42 | amitmn | hello everyone |
09:46.03 | amitmn | is anyone interested in working on CERN projects? |
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09:49.05 | abc_ | hello |
09:49.49 | teepee-- | abc_: hi! |
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10:11.51 | ssk_ | <teepee--> Thanks for the heads up. I will definitely look into them |
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10:14.28 | ali7293 | hi, i was looking for the person who is going to mentor copyleft games, original games section |
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10:15.52 | |Kev| | ali7293: You should join the copyleft games channel for that. |
10:16.00 | |Kev| | Which I *think* is #copyleftgames. |
10:16.21 | |Kev| | Indeed, seems I'm right. |
10:16.22 | ali7293 | ok thanks kev |
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10:17.26 | ssk_ | What is the IRC channel for lowRISC ? |
10:18.13 | Derp_ | Hey, |
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10:19.01 | Derp_ | Student Applications - March 16 - 17 Community Bonding soon - March 27 - April 27 Community Bonding - April 27 - May 25 Could you please tell me what happens in each part of the program, when do we know that we are selected? When do we interact with them, and when is the deadline for submission ? |
10:19.20 | Valodim | have you read the gsoc students guide? |
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10:19.42 | Derp_ | is it this one ? http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide |
10:20.02 | darnir | Yes |
10:20.06 | darnir | Yes |
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10:21.34 | Derp_ | I can't find that information there ? Can you please send the link where i can find the information like what happens during each part of timeline ? |
10:21.40 | Derp_ | Thanks in Advance ! |
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11:01.29 | iptop | Anyone getting any replies from Scorelab organisation ? |
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11:01.38 | iptop | I mailed them, no reply came |
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11:02.44 | iptop | They reply to people who post from their own college only. Can they do that ?. Isn't it supposed to be open for all ? |
11:03.12 | iptop | Do i have a chanve there ?. Should I stop trying for them ?. Suggestion ? |
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11:07.28 | iptop | Anybody online? |
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11:07.41 | iptop | Some help |
11:08.07 | teepee-- | online, yes. not sure I understand the question though |
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11:08.29 | iptop | They are focus on students only from their own college |
11:08.35 | iptop | university* |
11:08.51 | iptop | in mail list and group |
11:08.56 | teepee-- | just to be sure... we are talking about gsoc project? |
11:08.57 | iptop | Can they do that ? |
11:09.02 | iptop | Yes |
11:09.10 | iptop | Gsoc projects only |
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11:09.47 | iptop | Should I continue try for them ? |
11:10.29 | teepee-- | hmm, that sounds strange, gsoc student selection should be only based on the proposal submitted |
11:10.51 | iptop | No no. They reply in groups only to their own college students |
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11:12.58 | gevaerts | iptop: if you're really seeing that, I'd recommend contacting carols directly about it |
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11:13.58 | teepee-- | iptop: so you posted on their mailing list about gsoc and they ignored you? |
11:14.10 | iptop | no reply ca,e |
11:14.14 | iptop | came* |
11:14.26 | teepee-- | did you try their irc channel? |
11:14.44 | teepee-- | mail answers can take some time |
11:14.58 | teepee-- | (well, so can IRC answers, timezones and such :) |
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11:15.31 | iptop | ok |
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11:16.15 | teepee-- | but if it really gets obvious that they prefer their known people, then I agree with gevaerts, discuss later with carols |
11:16.24 | gevaerts | nods |
11:16.30 | teepee-- | she runs the project and can get official statements |
11:16.43 | iptop | okay... i will contact him. is carols active on irc ? |
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11:17.05 | gevaerts | her :) |
11:17.22 | gevaerts | She's usually on irc during california business hours, yes |
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11:17.43 | gevaerts | But you can just email, carols at google dot com |
11:17.49 | iptop | okay... i am not able to find her on irc |
11:17.59 | iptop | okay |
11:18.00 | iptop | thanks |
11:18.44 | gevaerts | Of course there's always the usual advice: if you think something is wrong with an organisation, by all means try to help fix it or report it, but definitely look for another organisation as well |
11:19.32 | iptop | sure.. i will do that.. thanks gevaerts |
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11:24.46 | lekagni | hi |
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13:25.37 | shashank19gaurav | I already have implemented the thumbnail thing. It just scans the folder and displays all the screenshots. |
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13:38.50 | Dr-Shadow | Hi, I couldn't find what kind of payment is provided by Google to students |
13:39.05 | Dr-Shadow | Is it an internship ? |
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13:40.17 | endle | Dr-Shadow, last year, Payoneer is used |
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13:46.03 | Dr-Shadow | Erm my question was about the taxes |
13:46.22 | Dr-Shadow | for a non US resident |
13:46.57 | endle | Dr-Shadow, I'm a non US resident too |
13:47.32 | endle | You'll need to sign a form, to prove that you're a non US resident, then Google will care nothing about the tax issues |
13:48.28 | endle | Then you need to handle the tax issues yourself depending on the rules in your country |
13:49.19 | Dr-Shadow | Ok so the paiement wont be considered like an internship ? |
13:50.06 | Valodim | does it make a difference? |
13:50.11 | endle | I'm not sure |
13:50.13 | Valodim | it is primarily 'income' |
13:50.18 | gevaerts | Dr-Shadow: you're asking tax advice from random strangers on the internet. Are you sure that's a good idea? |
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13:50.44 | endle | Agree with gevaerts |
13:51.01 | Dr-Shadow | Ok ty Valodim |
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13:51.42 | Dr-Shadow | I'm asking what king of payment it would be because I will have to care about the tax issues :) |
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13:53.23 | Valodim | it's very likely tax laws in your country don't care about the method of payment |
13:53.29 | blast007 | Dr-Shadow: you would need to speak with a local tax professional |
13:54.58 | endle | +1 |
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13:55.10 | endle | It is different in different regions |
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13:58.54 | Dr-Shadow | I understood I should consider this like an income and not a payment for an internship. This is just what I wanted to know. There is allowances too... |
13:59.46 | sss | Hello, any org has python based projects which mentors might be expecting students? |
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14:06.11 | sss | mentors or any org here? |
14:08.20 | blast007 | sss: did you check the organization list and filter on the keyword 'python'? |
14:09.29 | sss | blast007: ya I did that, but I know its too late to try, that's why I'm asking if any mentor expecting students and didn't have so I can try that project |
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14:10.14 | blast007 | sss: I don't know what you mean by "too late to try" |
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14:10.55 | sss | I means most of the project are being already acquire by students, that's what |
14:11.29 | blast007 | why would you think that? the student applications haven't even opened yet. |
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14:13.27 | sss | blast007: ya but they will always be ahead of me since they started first |
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14:14.00 | sss | I would be very easy if any project is very important for org but got no one to apply |
14:14.04 | sss | It* |
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14:14.49 | Valodim | I'm not sure 'hi i'm here to fill the gaps' is a very good approach |
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14:16.01 | sss | Valodim: hello, are you mentor? |
14:16.09 | Valodim | yes |
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14:16.22 | dhanush | sss: its not late at all. There's still plenty of time. Look up some orgs that interests you, and ask them instead. |
14:16.23 | sss | for which org? |
14:16.28 | Valodim | did you check the timeline? applications start only next week |
14:16.29 | dhanush | chances are something will come up. |
14:16.34 | darnir | I would be extremely skeptical of any student who tried to slip through the cracks to get a project. |
14:17.06 | sss | dhanush: that's what I doing, but instead of searching, asking here |
14:18.01 | Valodim | if you are expecting a shortcut, there isn't one |
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14:18.30 | sss | I just mean that org list were opened from 3rd march, since then many students are been trying hard that it might be difficult for me to create a better proposal, I know applications are not opened yet |
14:19.19 | Valodim | so what other advice than "try your best" were you looking for? |
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14:20.57 | sss_ | !logs |
14:20.57 | gsocbot | sss_: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
14:21.42 | sss_ | can't I get to see latest logs? |
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14:21.54 | blast007 | they are posted every 24 hours |
14:22.19 | sss_ | ohh |
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14:23.50 | sss_ | valorie: I know there aren't any shortcut, but may be if I try for the org where less students are involved will be good for me |
14:24.49 | blast007 | sss_: try for a project that would actually *interest* you and you could be passionate about because that would show through your interactions with the project and on the proposal |
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14:25.50 | sss_ | blast007: I've trying for 3 days, but ultimately found out that some else was working for more than 1 months on that |
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14:25.58 | blast007 | so? |
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14:26.47 | sss_ | blast007: so I pretty much no chance infront of him |
14:27.15 | blast007 | well not with that attitude |
14:27.51 | sss_ | blast007: I participated last year and the project on which I was working other 4 students were alse, but ultimately they got rejected because I was try from initial day |
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14:28.20 | |Kev| | "They got here first" is not something I've ever seen in GSoC. |
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14:28.55 | Dr-Shadow | Is there any org with a project for porting a unix distro to a smartphone ? |
14:29.50 | Dr-Shadow | I found projects related to android for freeBSD and debian but I wonder if I missed some others. |
14:30.07 | sss_ | |Kev|: may project involve micro-bugs, by the time I'll done with one, others will be done with proposals |
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14:30.43 | |Kev| | How long until the deadline? |
14:30.55 | sss_ | 13 days left |
14:31.02 | gevaerts | |Kev|: now don't *you* start! ;) |
14:31.50 | |Kev| | sss_: And it'll take you 13 days to fix a bug (or whatever other teaser). I think orgs expect these to be a couple of hours. My org's guideline is 'no more than an afternoon'. |
14:31.51 | sss_ | ok, I'm now |
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14:32.00 | |Kev| | ? |
14:32.03 | |Kev| | gevaerts: :D |
14:32.03 | sss_ | thanks for motivating though |
14:32.33 | sss_ | |Kev|: ok, which org? |
14:32.49 | sss_ | |Kev|: Can I talk to you 1hr. latter? |
14:34.00 | |Kev| | Find an org based on projects that excite you, not based on who talks to you in here :) |
14:34.12 | |Kev| | (Although I /guess/ there are worse criteria) |
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14:58.17 | iptop | When will google update the Google-melange FAQ ? |
14:59.34 | meflin | melange is an open source project |
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15:13.08 | MatthewWilkes | iptop: What's missing from it? |
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15:31.08 | iptop | MattheWilkes: One example is that, the FAQ says that it will take the number of organisations from last year, which sure didnt happen. |
15:31.48 | iptop | Also, it says that, new orgs will get only one or two slots |
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15:31.59 | iptop | this time around 40% is new orgs |
15:32.20 | iptop | and around a 20-25% dip in org numbers |
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15:32.51 | gevaerts | iptop: it *is* a similar number! |
15:32.55 | iptop | That means a mega dip in the students also |
15:33.02 | iptop | Simliar. 197, 137 |
15:33.07 | meflin | boo hoo |
15:33.12 | gevaerts | In both 2014 and 2015, the number was a positive integer! |
15:33.14 | iptop | There is a considerable difference |
15:33.24 | gevaerts | All the faq says is it won't suddenly be a complex number |
15:33.57 | gevaerts | Anyway, I see exactly *zero* indication about the number of slots this yet |
15:33.58 | gevaerts | *year |
15:34.01 | iptop | What about slots for new orgs |
15:34.05 | gevaerts | Neither positive nore negative |
15:34.15 | iptop | there is a hyperlink somewhere in the page |
15:34.20 | iptop | I dont seem to find it now |
15:34.40 | ROI_ | Hi everyone! I'm Dr Roijals and I will be mentoring the project: "Toolboxing network complexity for connectomes: New code for big samples in C-PAC", with the International Neuroinformatics |
15:34.44 | iptop | it says that the new orgs get a mazimum of two slots |
15:34.49 | gevaerts | So? |
15:34.56 | ROI_ | if you see me here, you can make me questions about the project |
15:35.15 | meflin | ROI_: that is off topic this is gsoc general ... make your own channel to do project work |
15:35.18 | iptop | so less number of students right ? |
15:35.21 | gevaerts | Why? |
15:35.45 | iptop | less orgs-new orgs-less slots |
15:35.52 | gevaerts | doesn't see that |
15:35.57 | iptop | doesnt that mean less students also ? |
15:36.02 | gevaerts | The only *real* trend I've seen the last few years is a push towards umbrella organisations |
15:36.16 | gevaerts | Which means fewer but larger organisations from the google point of view |
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15:36.35 | gevaerts | Basically distributing the workload |
15:36.45 | iptop | all i am worried about is the number of studens they will take |
15:37.03 | iptop | which will be considerabke less than last year |
15:37.17 | iptop | u got that right ? |
15:37.23 | gevaerts | u? |
15:37.24 | blast007 | you're making an assumption |
15:37.27 | gevaerts | *will* be? |
15:37.30 | gevaerts | How do you know? |
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15:38.00 | ROI_ | #toolboxingneuroinformatics |
15:38.49 | iptop | the faq says so. |
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15:39.21 | iptop | less orgs this time- more new orgs this time- new orgs get less slots- less slots implies less number of students |
15:39.30 | iptop | now ? |
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15:39.56 | gevaerts | *all* new orgs would imply fewer slots with the two slot thing, yes |
15:40.13 | gevaerts | But as far as I can see, a lot of the orgs in gsoc are *not* new |
15:40.20 | iptop | many new orgs this time |
15:40.30 | gevaerts | many is not the same as all, or even most |
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15:40.49 | iptop | actually.. this time they rejected a lot of prominent orgs to make space for new orgs |
15:41.10 | iptop | joomla, linux foundation, etc |
15:41.38 | gevaerts | *still* hasn't seen a convincing argument for this fewer slots theyory |
15:41.52 | blast007 | iptop: speculation on this is a bit pointless.. how about we just wait and see? |
15:42.02 | iptop | and btw why did they take only 137 this time.. |
15:42.09 | gevaerts | We do not know, and as far as I can see there are no proper indications either way |
15:42.13 | iptop | why the dip in the otherwise increasing graph ? |
15:42.28 | gevaerts | Did you read what I said about umbrella organisations earlier? |
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15:42.37 | iptop | ok |
15:42.49 | iptop | yes i did |
15:42.49 | gevaerts | That's, as far as I can see, the most likely reason |
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15:43.27 | gevaerts | We'll know for sure in a bit more than a month. Before that, speculation won't achieve much |
15:43.59 | iptop | fine fine |
15:44.02 | iptop | alright |
15:44.12 | _flow_ | ROI_: that's a terriable long name for an irc channel. May I suggest you try a shorter one? |
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15:46.15 | iptop | what is carols's gmail id ? |
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15:46.44 | downey | iptop: carols at google |
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15:53.39 | iptop | I mailed her regarding the problem with the scorelab community |
15:53.44 | iptop | Thanks for the advice |
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15:55.18 | meflin | I do not recall you mentioning any problem |
15:56.06 | iptop | please see the logs |
15:56.18 | meflin | nope |
15:56.23 | meflin | been here all morning |
15:56.56 | gevaerts | saw it :) |
15:58.07 | MatthewWilkes | iptop: Are you the org admin for scoreless? |
15:58.17 | MatthewWilkes | scorelab, sorry, autocorrect |
15:58.51 | iptop | no.. just an interested student |
15:59.55 | meflin | ah I see just before I woke up |
16:00.18 | meflin | they do not have to talk to you untill student selection opens ... but then yes they do |
16:00.34 | meflin | its possible there is no one home at this time ( vacations and such ) |
16:01.02 | iptop | but they are responding to others.. only their own college students |
16:01.12 | meflin | carols is the place to go |
16:01.26 | iptop | I mailed her |
16:01.30 | meflin | and no that is not allowed |
16:01.36 | iptop | Hope she looks into it |
16:01.42 | iptop | ok |
16:01.44 | meflin | she will :) |
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16:06.37 | toad_ | is there any limit on the number of applications a student can make? this does not appear to be in the FAQ |
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16:07.30 | asy | 5 IIRC |
16:07.46 | meflin | and that many is a bad bad idea |
16:07.57 | meflin | quality i the thing |
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16:10.27 | gevaerts | toad_: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#6._Can_a_student_submit_more_than_one |
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16:15.22 | toad_ | ah ok, missed it |
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16:28.33 | agliodbs | is there anyone here who can speak to moving old student projects off of Google Code? |
16:29.27 | meflin | other then pull .. the commit elsewhere no idea |
16:29.46 | MatthewWilkes | If you still have the org admins around for that period they can migrate them |
16:30.14 | gevaerts | The question is if it's worth it |
16:30.15 | MatthewWilkes | carols has said that they're looking in to what they can do for those people that don't, but as merlin says you can always download manually |
16:30.36 | meflin | gevaerts: yes the MOST DESIRABLE CODE is over there |
16:30.39 | agliodbs | MatthewWilkes: we do, I was admin during that perioud |
16:30.46 | gevaerts | If it's an actual self-sufficient codebase, sure |
16:30.55 | meflin | MatthewWilkes: merlin .. snif sob |
16:30.59 | gevaerts | But those tarballs with patches some poeple have? |
16:31.06 | MatthewWilkes | meflin: I can't stop my mac autocorrecting things |
16:31.08 | MatthewWilkes | It's REALLY annoying |
16:31.18 | meflin | heh mine does that as well |
16:31.26 | MatthewWilkes | If anyone can tell me how to fix it I'll buy them a pint |
16:31.27 | agliodbs | gevaerts: some of these projects contain partitially implemented ideas, and sometimes we have new students pick up incomplete old projects and complete them |
16:31.29 | MatthewWilkes | Seriously. |
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16:31.44 | agliodbs | so AFAIC, they're valuable enough to spend 5 minutes each on |
16:31.50 | MatthewWilkes | agliodbs: You should have had an email from google code about how to use to automatic github and source forge importers |
16:31.51 | gevaerts | Yes, that's useful |
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16:32.50 | MatthewWilkes | agliodbs: tl;dr: https://code.google.com/export-to-github/ |
16:32.56 | MatthewWilkes | Except it's overloaded atm |
16:33.00 | agliodbs | MatthewWilkes: yeah, it just wasn't clear that I have permissions. |
16:33.22 | agliodbs | also, oddly, it doesn't mention the individual projects, just the GSOC meta-projects |
16:33.33 | agliodbs | but i'll poke around. expect me back here looking for help ;-) |
16:34.08 | agliodbs | in fact, this summer we're going to have a student completing an incomplete project |
16:34.19 | agliodbs | (which turned out to be much harder than the mentor & student originally thought) |
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16:34.44 | meflin | project : move all our old stuff to new stuff :\ |
16:34.58 | |Kev| | Surely you mean "Thus summer we might have..."? |
16:35.35 | |Kev| | Unless you've already somehow ranked the not-yet-applied students. |
16:35.48 | agliodbs | the big problem is making sure I remember to do this since we have until august |
16:36.17 | agliodbs | |Kev|: yeah, it's possible that the student(s) in question could go astray before the application time |
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16:36.55 | agliodbs | |Kev|: but we've pretty much had students pitching on our development list, so the impression I get is that some of them are selected already as long as they follow-through and qualify |
16:37.00 | agliodbs | note that I'm NOT a mentor this year |
16:37.03 | meflin | agliodbs: you could also end up in the worst possible gsoc situation ... more excelent students then slots |
16:37.08 | agliodbs | so I don't know for sure |
16:37.17 | agliodbs | meflin: that is not a bad situation |
16:37.26 | agliodbs | besides, it |
16:37.27 | meflin | yes it is :) |
16:37.33 | agliodbs | it sure beats the alternative |
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16:38.08 | agliodbs | anyway, it's a situation we're used to. we have a hard time finding mentors, so we usually have more good students than slots |
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16:38.44 | meflin | I've had that problem as well ... both are non-good ;) |
16:38.49 | agliodbs | I'm pretty sure that Google would offer us 1 or 2 more slots if we could take them; we've had higher in the past. but we don't ask for slots we can't mentor effectively. |
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16:39.39 | agliodbs | when we dropped from 7 to 4 slots, our "disappearing mentor" problem went away, and I'm sure Thom wants to keep it that way. |
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16:40.10 | meflin | good call ... try "disappearing sub org" ;) |
16:40.16 | agliodbs | meflin: !!! |
16:40.22 | agliodbs | meflin: mind you, we had that too |
16:40.26 | meflin | whole sub weent poof mid season |
16:40.29 | |Kev| | agliodbs: I'd dearly hope it's not the case than any orgs have preselected students at this stage. Have current favourites, sure, but it's too early for decisions to have been made. |
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16:40.34 | agliodbs | but, fortunately, before acceptance |
16:40.52 | agliodbs | |Kev|: see above about me not being part of the voting this year |
16:41.06 | |Kev| | meflin: That's...impressive. Hasn't happened to us yet, but it might. |
16:41.14 | agliodbs | meflin: what project are you? |
16:41.20 | |Kev| | agliodbs: You not being responsible doesn't change my opinion on that :) |
16:41.31 | meflin | that was Python .. I'm also with minowboard.org this year |
16:41.57 | meflin | before my time but I have standby mentors just for that case |
16:42.14 | agliodbs | |Kev|: it just means that I'm not speaking authoritatively, since I don't actually know how the voting is going |
16:42.44 | agliodbs | clearly, since I didn't know that it hadn't started yet |
16:43.21 | |Kev| | Fair. |
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16:46.04 | agliodbs | meflin: I'm so glad I never Admin'd one of the big meta-projects |
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16:46.12 | agliodbs | I think it would drive me bananas |
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16:53.15 | |Kev| | Just the small umbrellas is hard enough. |
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16:56.54 | agliodbs | |Kev|: well, I handle payment processing for SPI, and that's an RPITA |
16:57.09 | agliodbs | |Kev|: I'm *still* trying to pay back some mentors from GSOC2014 |
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16:59.29 | sss_ | |Kev|: Hello, Are there any python based projects in your org.? |
17:01.55 | |Kev| | agliodbs: Ah. We just don't pay mentors :) |
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17:02.18 | agliodbs | |Kev|: GSOC summit |
17:02.19 | |Kev| | sss_: Yes. |
17:02.23 | |Kev| | agliodbs: Ah, right. |
17:02.49 | |Kev| | After 8 years of on/off mentor/adminning I've still yet to have a year I could make it. |
17:05.04 | sss_ | |Kev|: does your org has projects which I can work on? |
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17:07.09 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
17:07.39 | downey | mmm, tea |
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17:09.41 | |Kev| | sss_: We haven't decided on any students yet, if that's what you mean (we couldn't have, we don't know how many slots we'll have, or what applications we'll receive) |
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17:11.40 | sss_ | |Kev|: I'm just asking as if your org has any project in which the participation of student is not much and is very important for your, so that I can contribute to that project |
17:11.54 | sss_ | your org* |
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17:12.41 | carols | sss_: student participation is equally important for all gsoc projects. |
17:12.45 | carols | maybe iâm missing something? |
17:13.19 | |Kev| | sss_: All the projects are about student participation. Some are more /difficult/ than others, but they all involve participation. I'm not sure if you're asking for an easy ride to get paid or something. |
17:13.38 | iptop | carols: Can you please look at the mail I sent you ?. It's regarding an organization |
17:13.55 | iptop | not taking people from outisde their university |
17:13.59 | carols | iptop: i look at all mail thatâs sent to me when Iâm able. |
17:14.04 | |Kev| | sss_: But I'm generally not interested in students asking for the easiest way to get paid. I want students excited to work with our projects. |
17:14.08 | carols | iptop: no organizations are taking any students right now |
17:14.13 | carols | applications havenât opened |
17:14.25 | iptop | They are responding to people who are from their own university only |
17:14.26 | iptop | okay.. |
17:14.27 | iptop | fine |
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17:14.33 | iptop | will wait for the application period |
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17:14.47 | carols | cheers |
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17:15.24 | |Kev| | iptop: Remember that if you think than an org isn't a good fit for you, you can look elsewhere. |
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17:28.52 | kshitijSharma | If someone want to propose his idea in Google Open Source Programs Office, should it be discussed here first or one has to directly submit a proposal? |
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17:30.23 | carols | kshitijSharma: you should already have a research project and an advisor as per the rules, and then just submit the proposal |
17:30.28 | carols | no need to discuss it here |
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17:32.58 | kshitijSharma | Thanks carols, just wanted to confirm that. |
17:33.04 | carols | cheers |
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17:33.12 | barbado | Hi there. Can I submit distinct applications to different mentoring organizations? |
17:34.18 | carols | barbado: sure, if you like |
17:34.24 | carols | quality is always better than quantity |
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17:36.48 | |Kev| | barbado: Orgs usually like to know students before an application appears from them, so it does mean putting in the legwork to get to know two communities, submit patches etc. It's more work, but allowed. |
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17:38.06 | barbado | carols: Yes, I agree. It's just that I've been informally talking about GSoC with mentoring parties, and wow, so many wonderful works being done. |
17:38.37 | carols | barbado: indeed, i agree |
17:38.50 | carols | always an embarassment of riches with the gsoc orgs |
17:39.33 | barbado | |Kev|: Thanks for the tip :-) |
17:40.00 | agliodbs | barbado: pitching projects to hour development mailing list makes a HUGE difference in probability of acceptance with us. |
17:40.11 | agliodbs | sorry, to *our* development list |
17:40.51 | agliodbs | if you find the development list scary (which it is, a bit), we also have a "students" list. |
17:41.04 | agliodbs | I think that many other projects are similar to us in this way |
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17:41.57 | barbado | agliodbs: Hi. Thanks for your input. Which organization you from? (Is this allowed to ask here?) |
17:42.19 | carols | barbado: youâre allowed to ask, but if you want to speak to agliodbs further please take it to his channel or a PM |
17:42.42 | agliodbs | postgresql |
17:42.47 | barbado | carols: Ah OK, sorry. |
17:42.58 | carols | no need to apologize |
17:43.00 | agliodbs | and actually, if you specifically want to ask about PostgreSQL, I'll refer you to the -students mailin glist |
17:43.04 | carols | just continue the conversation elsewhere :-) |
17:43.10 | agliodbs | since I'm the "past admin", and not even a mentor this year |
17:43.11 | barbado | carols: :-) |
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17:59.03 | carols | hope everyoneâs having a nice friday/saturday |
17:59.15 | downey | saturday is great :) |
17:59.17 | carols | and prepping their applications for monday :-0 |
17:59.19 | carols | :-) |
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17:59.30 | carols | downey: it generally is :-) |
17:59.44 | downey | thanks to OSPO for sponsoring FOSSASIA, it's going great :-) |
17:59.50 | carols | glad to hear it |
17:59.52 | downey | and lots of gsoc students attending |
17:59.56 | carols | great! |
18:00.11 | carols | hopefully lots who are working on their applications for monday |
18:00.27 | downey | 800-some attendees, so i'm sure they're busy making plans |
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18:00.33 | carols | excellent |
18:01.07 | downey | is hoping for students to submit proposals earlier rather than later |
18:01.24 | downey | rushing at the end never turns out well because there's so often something missing, incomplete etc |
18:02.18 | carols | yeah, i always hope for that too |
18:03.48 | iptop | carols : Any rough estimate on the number of students who will be selected this time ?. I am assuming it will be considerably less than last time! |
18:04.06 | carols | iptop: nope, donât know how many weâre accepting until we accept them |
18:04.07 | downey | iptop: why do you assume that, just curious |
18:04.13 | carols | just focus on makng a great application |
18:04.18 | carols | thatâs all you need to worry about |
18:04.48 | iptop | Oh. Alright |
18:04.56 | downey | we always ask for slots based on how many solid proposals we get |
18:05.13 | carols | downey: as all orgs should :-) |
18:06.34 | downey | the worst thing is having to sit at the keyboard in the last few hours on friday copy & pasting a response to the student that they didn't follow the application template, and telling them they have only N minutes to update their proposal before the deadline |
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18:07.09 | downey | "Please go back and re-read the directions carefully to make sure you've included everything we need to evaluate your proposal." :-) |
18:07.38 | carols | downey: kinda how i feel when orgs have 404s for their ideas pages :-( |
18:07.45 | downey | lol |
18:07.54 | downey | carols: that hit a sore spot for me :D |
18:07.58 | carols | :-) |
18:08.03 | carols | i bet it did |
18:08.06 | downey | well maybe not 404 but at least the wrong URL |
18:08.09 | meflin | well the 2 limiting factors are mentors and excelent proposals |
18:08.34 | downey | we always just submit a short URL so it's always the same :) |
18:08.41 | carols | downey: good plan |
18:08.46 | downey | i guess i just spilled our secret |
18:08.53 | downey | not many secrets in open source anyway |
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18:09.57 | ujjwal | student proposal is locked after 27th march? after that, we can discuss it but can't edit it? |
18:10.21 | meflin | dang you are getting ahead of yourself |
18:10.35 | meflin | make it good first wory about the cut off later |
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18:11.30 | downey | 27 March: 19:00 UTC Student application deadline. |
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18:11.57 | downey | that means your proposal is dead if it's on the other side of the line :) |
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18:12.39 | downey | we've already got lots of students preparing their proposals with our mentors ... so no need to wait |
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18:16.29 | garvitdelhi | hey, can we edit our proposals once we have uploaded it on our profile? |
18:17.06 | meflin | untill the cut off yess |
18:17.27 | garvitdelhi | okay :) |
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19:45.20 | annonymous | Hello |
19:45.36 | meflin | hola |
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19:45.57 | annonymous | please any one help me know how to chat with mentors for project ideas |
19:46.29 | meflin | check the web page find a project you are interested in and use the contact info |
19:47.12 | annonymous | i have selected my project org. how to chat with that org. |
19:47.25 | meflin | checjk there contact info |
19:47.43 | annonymous | is this chat window is also used to talk mentors |
19:47.54 | meflin | no |
19:48.02 | meflin | this is gsoc-general |
19:48.11 | annonymous | gsoc query |
19:48.21 | meflin | each org in melang lists there contact info |
19:48.55 | annonymous | hanks |
19:48.58 | annonymous | thanks |
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20:25.59 | carols | serves some afternoon tea and coffee |
20:25.59 | himangi | hi..... |
20:26.03 | carols | hi himangi |
20:33.52 | ChristianM | adds some cookies to the tea and coffee |
20:34.31 | carols | thanks ChristianM |
20:34.36 | carols | happy friday |
20:34.42 | ChristianM | for you as well :) |
20:36.48 | carols | thanks :-) |
20:37.50 | piymis | Happy Saturday (IST) :) |
20:38.14 | carols | happy saturday :-) |
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21:25.45 | chuongv | !next |
21:25.46 | gsocbot | chuongv: "next" is Student application period opens on March 16th at 19:00 UTC. |
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21:26.53 | carols | soon! |
21:26.54 | carols | very soon |
21:27.04 | carols | hope everyoneâs got their applications ready |
21:27.34 | asy | I'm working on my draft ! |
21:27.45 | carols | good luck asy |
21:28.15 | scribblemaniac | looks nervously at a blank text document |
21:28.16 | asy | Thank you ! |
21:31.42 | carols | you still have the weekend to figure something out scribblemaniac |
21:31.42 | carols | :-) |
21:31.55 | carols | and surely youâve been working with a potential org already |
21:32.00 | carols | so they can help you |
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21:39.09 | scribblemaniac | carols: yeah it's a busy weekend for me |
21:39.32 | carols | i know how that is |
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22:32.26 | barbado | Hi again :-) suppose I want to propose an idea to Google Open Source Programs Office. So, in that case, I should send my application form to <google-summer-of-code-discuss@googlegroups.com>. Is this correct? |
22:32.52 | meflin | not sure why are you doing that? |
22:33.44 | barbado | meflin: Google Open Source Programs Office is also a mentoring organization. |
22:34.05 | meflin | only for very rare special projects |
22:34.34 | meflin | have you been in contact? |
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22:35.43 | gevaerts | is fairly sure that the generic gsoc mailing list isn't the correct address to send that to |
22:35.52 | barbado | meflin: With them? No. Only with other organizations. Point is, I do not know whether my proposed idea will be accepted. |
22:36.17 | meflin | ospo@google.com |
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22:36.41 | barbado | meflin: Thank you. |
22:36.56 | meflin | very rare to run that way |
22:37.05 | gevaerts | Guess what? *nobody* knows whether their proposal will be accepted! |
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22:38.13 | barbado | gevaerts: Yes, and that is one of the reasons why I'm asking. |
22:38.39 | meflin | no reason to ask all proposals are accepted when they are |
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22:49.43 | gitanshu | !logs |
22:49.43 | gsocbot | gitanshu: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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