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| 01:36.24 | Coldzer0 | test >_< |
| 01:37.00 | valorie | please do that somewhere else, Coldzer0 |
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| 01:40.30 | valorie | typing test in a crowded channel is bad form |
| 01:40.37 | valorie | do not PM without permission |
| 01:40.56 | max1337 | If I send in my proposal on the early side, would I get feedback for it being to long or something? |
| 01:41.07 | max1337 | too |
| 01:41.08 | valorie | this is a help channel, so just ask your question Coldzer0_ |
| 01:41.25 | Coldzer0_ | ok thanks |
| 01:41.38 | valorie | max1337: always contact your probable mentor and the entire team you'll be working within for feedback |
| 01:41.50 | valorie | the sooner you ask, the sooner you will get that feedback |
| 01:42.09 | max1337 | good idea! ty. |
| 01:42.19 | max1337 | do you think 3 pages is a bit long? |
| 01:42.32 | valorie | take the space you need to be complete |
| 01:42.42 | valorie | no word salad though |
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| 01:43.22 | valorie | I've often helped students with editing for grammer and such |
| 01:43.33 | valorie | people are helpful if asked politely |
| 01:47.06 | max1337 | word salad? haha. thats a great word for filler. |
| 01:47.24 | max1337 | i'll remember that. |
| 01:50.39 | valorie | heh, I see it and have to read it far too often |
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| 01:51.25 | DaSpirit | If proof of enrollment is not entered within the 27th, will I be ineligible or can it be entered later? |
| 01:51.59 | max1337 | I'm applying to the concord consortium and I feel like most of their questions seem fairly long winded but that could just be my interpretation... |
| 01:52.07 | olly | AIUI, it can't register until you've uploaded that proof |
| 01:52.17 | olly | and you can't send a proposal if you haven't registered |
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| 01:52.53 | olly | max1337: the proposal certainly isn't a multiple choice test |
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| 01:54.29 | DaSpirit | AIUI? |
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| 02:02.57 | max1337 | aiui means "as i understand it" |
| 02:03.08 | max1337 | just some internet acronyms |
| 02:03.42 | DaSpirit | All right thanks. |
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| 04:00.00 | rubbersheep | hello |
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| 04:02.46 | heytitle_ | yoyo! |
| 04:03.02 | rubbersheep | would someone show me a way to submit my proposal? |
| 04:03.16 | rubbersheep | i went to My Dashboard and clicked on Proposals |
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| 04:03.45 | rubbersheep | but there is no field to select and upload anything |
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| 04:04.51 | rubbersheep | is that something that enables only after my enrollment form gets checked? |
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| 04:10.40 | rubbersheep | okay. im sorry |
| 04:11.02 | rubbersheep | Submit a Proposal is a button on the homepage |
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| 05:35.38 | austinprog | hi |
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| 05:42.40 | kbhat | What additional info is needed *about* the proposal? I don't get the point of that field in the application. |
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| 05:43.41 | valorie | I've not seen the application page, but I would treat it as the tl;dr for the proposal |
| 05:43.50 | valorie | in other words, a precis' |
| 05:43.55 | valorie | summary |
| 05:44.06 | kbhat | valorie: wouldn't that be the abstract? |
| 05:44.18 | kbhat | valorie: there's a box for that; the first one, in fact. |
| 05:44.27 | kbhat | (other than the title) |
| 05:44.39 | valorie | as I said, I've not seen it |
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| 05:45.12 | valorie | perhaps link to the original idea, or talk a bit about the team you'll work in? |
| 05:45.15 | valorie | not sure |
| 05:45.26 | valorie | do you have a screenshot? |
| 05:45.27 | kbhat | hmm, okay. Thanks. |
| 05:45.33 | kbhat | valorie: hang on... |
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| 05:50.39 | kbhat | valorie: http://imagebin.ca/v/1vKNq8b2yteQ |
| 05:51.38 | kbhat | The fields above are title, abstract, and proposal. (I filled them, hence their absence from screenshot :P) |
| 05:51.40 | valorie | ah, I would put the link to the original idea on which you are basing your proposal |
| 05:51.52 | kbhat | valorie: great! Thanks a lot. |
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| 05:52.08 | valorie | unless you can think of something more important |
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| 05:53.35 | kbhat | valorie: not really. |
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| 05:56.50 | Mo | Hello Everyone :) |
| 05:57.44 | Guest45671 | New to GSOC. Have yet to apply. Just wondering If theres a list of projects I'm supposed to choose from? Or can I pick any open source project and draft a proposal to work on that |
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| 05:58.23 | syst3mw0rm | Guest45671: Well, each organisation have their own project list |
| 06:00.26 | syst3mw0rm | https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2015 |
| 06:00.31 | max1337 | There's a list of organizations you can browse from. They all have keywords for like the languages the projects might be in and what they are about. Then each oranization has a project list that you can choose from or you can come up with your own project list for them. |
| 06:00.51 | max1337 | Links probably better.. |
| 06:00.56 | max1337 | haha |
| 06:01.11 | syst3mw0rm | max1337: ;) |
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| 07:40.09 | gsocbot | moon_: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015 |
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| 08:37.24 | wadleo | are there any changes if you clone a repo in linux or windows |
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| 08:45.22 | |Kev| | wadleo: This isn't the right channel for technical help, try talking to your org. |
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| 08:47.53 | wadleo | kev: thanks for the tip |
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| 08:53.36 | sfasdfsdfas | do orgs contact or give feedback before proposal is selected after the deadline |
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| 08:54.40 | asy | sfasdfsdfas: Orgs can comment your proposal and ask questions to you on google melange. |
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| 09:00.29 | Keeter | Hello :D |
| 09:00.57 | syst3mw0rm | Keeter: yo |
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| 09:49.50 | sfasdfsdfas | keeter u a gsoc student !? |
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| 09:50.40 | Keeter | I am a student, yes. |
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| 10:39.12 | ankit | hello m new to irc.. help me to participate |
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| 10:44.41 | ankit | #ryan do you know how to contact mentor |
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| 10:46.53 | dumindux | ankit you need to pick an organization first and then try to contact a mentor |
| 10:49.28 | ankit | dumidux ya ihave choosen organisation thats ruby gsoc but it has not given where to mail prposal |
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| 10:50.58 | garvitdelhi | ankit, try mailing to there mailing lists or talk in there irc |
| 10:51.05 | garvitdelhi | *their |
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| 11:22.24 | blast007 | ankit: I would also recommend reading the FAQ and the student manual http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
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| 11:32.25 | barbado | Good morning, GSoC :-) (some friends would say "TZAG") |
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| 13:00.35 | ibrahimmohamed1 | there is any good resources to make a good proposal |
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| 13:02.17 | rohitjatana | hi |
| 13:02.54 | rohitjatana | can anyone tell me where i have to submit proposal??? |
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| 13:07.04 | cancer | rohitjatana: where do you think you have to submit your proposal? |
| 13:07.21 | vineet_ | rohitjatana: have you registered on gsoc website and filled all details including enrollment form ? |
| 13:07.42 | rohitjatana | not enrollment form yet |
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| 13:08.13 | vineet_ | rohitjatana: you have to submit it first, before that you can't submit proposal |
| 13:08.38 | cancer | rohitjatana: if you cannot figure out WHERE to submit your proposal, are you sure you are good enough for GSoC? |
| 13:08.45 | rohitjatana | okk |
| 13:08.46 | rohitjatana | thanks alot |
| 13:09.10 | rohitjatana | yeah!!!for sure |
| 13:09.31 | rohitjatana | don't doubt my abilities |
| 13:09.36 | cancer | rohitjatana: then please read the melange website carefully |
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| 13:09.52 | cancer | rohitjatana: you should find answers to such elementary questions there |
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| 13:11.03 | rohitjatana | i will take care of it. |
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| 13:15.49 | Entangler | Hi guys |
| 13:16.07 | Entangler | I am pretty new to this open source program |
| 13:16.13 | Entangler | And want to know more about it |
| 13:16.19 | Entangler | Can anyone please help me |
| 13:16.36 | teepee-- | Entangler: did you read the student guide? |
| 13:16.49 | Entangler | Yes |
| 13:16.58 | Entangler | But I didn't get too much out of that |
| 13:17.21 | Entangler | What is all these proposal stuff |
| 13:17.37 | Entangler | Can't I just join any of the on going projects which suits me |
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| 13:17.55 | Entangler | Or I have to think of new my own |
| 13:17.56 | teepee-- | sure, you can do that, and pretty much every open source project will welcome this |
| 13:18.21 | Entangler | But in this case what should I write in the proposal |
| 13:18.25 | teepee-- | but if you want to do it though GSoC, you have to follow the gsoc rules |
| 13:18.32 | Entangler | I know c++ quite well |
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| 13:18.52 | Entangler | and can do too much of programming that I can write a nice 2d game |
| 13:18.53 | cancer | Entangler: have you read what GSoC is about? |
| 13:18.58 | Entangler | All of mine alone |
| 13:19.21 | teepee-- | then check the gsoc home page for the organization list which can be filtered by tags |
| 13:19.32 | Entangler | Ok |
| 13:19.34 | Entangler | And then |
| 13:19.35 | teepee-- | see if something sounds interesting |
| 13:19.40 | Entangler | Yeah |
| 13:19.51 | Entangler | there are few game projects by GNOME |
| 13:20.01 | Entangler | and by few others too |
| 13:20.02 | teepee-- | then read the student guide again ;) |
| 13:20.30 | Entangler | Ok |
| 13:20.35 | Entangler | The student guide |
| 13:20.45 | teepee-- | then pick one of the existing project ideas (or possibly check with the org, e.g. gnome, if they accept different ideas too) |
| 13:21.01 | Entangler | Ok |
| 13:21.11 | Entangler | Now I've the list of projects by GNOME |
| 13:22.14 | Entangler | OMG they are making it even harder it for me to understand all these things |
| 13:22.25 | Entangler | Is that because I'm new to it |
| 13:22.46 | Entangler | I've just today started to research of Google Summer Of Code |
| 13:22.56 | teepee-- | !studentguide | Entangler |
| 13:22.56 | gsocbot | Entangler: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 13:22.59 | Entangler | and let me tell you that I'm in my first year of UG programe |
| 13:23.06 | teepee-- | with student guide I meant that one ^ |
| 13:23.13 | Entangler | Ok |
| 13:23.24 | Entangler | Please give me few min I'll read that again |
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| 13:24.11 | teepee-- | don't forget the "--> next" links ;) |
| 13:24.22 | teepee-- | it's more than just one chapter :D |
| 13:24.50 | cancer | teepee--: you have great patience to answer to such queries! |
| 13:26.16 | teepee-- | :) |
| 13:26.31 | teepee-- | knows how new things can be confusing |
| 13:26.36 | darnir | !numapps |
| 13:26.37 | gsocbot | darnir: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 13:26.48 | Entangler | Yes I now get know that there are several pages |
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| 13:27.00 | Entangler | I am too dumb that I didn't noticed them |
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| 13:27.33 | cancer | cancer: thinks students need to do a basic level of reading before asking questions |
| 13:28.09 | gevaerts | thinks that cancer should read up on how irc works before trying fancy things :) |
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| 13:30.57 | cancer | thinks I should thank gevaerts |
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| 13:32.12 | gevaerts | wonders if he should mention being careful when speaking in the third person to actually speak in the third person |
| 13:33.31 | cancer | thinks gevaerts is correct. point taken. |
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| 14:24.54 | GillSans | q |
| 14:25.06 | GillSans | oops wrong window |
| 14:26.12 | GillSans | but had this been vim, I would have just exited |
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| 14:32.45 | vbarros | XD |
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| 14:45.57 | JoseJX | Hi all! Does anyone know whom I should contact regarding tax forms? I didn't receive my 1099 for last year and I'd like to get my taxes done! Thanks! |
| 14:46.35 | deeprdo | hello everyone I want to know how to propose a project to participation organization ? |
| 14:46.48 | |Kev| | deeprdo: Talk to them. |
| 14:47.33 | teepee-- | JoseJX: it's probably better to write a mail in that case |
| 14:48.00 | deeprdo | |Kev|: how I mean this is organization where I want to submit proposal http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/opencv |
| 14:48.12 | deeprdo | now I have to join their groups :-/ |
| 14:48.26 | deeprdo | if yes then this will take time then |
| 14:49.09 | JoseJX | teepee--: Sure, but to where? There isn't a contact email, just the group. |
| 14:49.32 | |Kev| | They give you methods of contacting them on their page. A shedload of them for that org. So use them (I'd suggest starting with IRC). |
| 14:50.03 | teepee-- | JoseJX: you should have that information in the offical mails. is it about last years gsoc? |
| 14:50.42 | deeprdo | |Kev|: there is no IRC channel from OpenCV side :( Strange isn't it? |
| 14:50.49 | JoseJX | teepee: Yes it is. I'll check back in the official email that I received, I might have missed something. Thanks! |
| 14:51.57 | |Kev| | deeprdo: I believe they have one on their profile page. #opencv on this network. |
| 14:52.16 | |Kev| | Although they failed to follow the instructions for setting it correctly |
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| 14:53.47 | deeprdo | yes there are 103 participants let me ask my query there |
| 14:53.47 | deeprdo | Thanks for your help |Kev| :) |
| 14:54.25 | gevaerts | Poor |Kev|, having to direct people to an *irc* channel... :) |
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| 14:55.12 | deeprdo | O_O and they are still not even replying |
| 14:56.09 | gevaerts | deeprdo: you're expecting a reply within two minutes? |
| 14:56.24 | |Kev| | gevaerts: I don't hate IRC ;) |
| 14:57.19 | |Kev| | deeprdo: If you don't get a response on IRC within a few hours, and you see other conversations there, you might repost it. After several hours. If you don't get a response after a day or two, maybe try another venue. |
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| 14:59.34 | deeprdo | haha!! |Kev| well I don't think #opencv is the correct venue. |
| 14:59.34 | deeprdo | There is no soul still alive ;) |
| 14:59.46 | |Kev| | deeprdo: How many hours have you been there? |
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| 15:00.06 | GillSans | deeprdo: I don't think you understand the irc game |
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| 15:02.37 | pranav_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.50 | pranav_ | please help |
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| 15:04.57 | pranav_ | its is also not showing my proof of enrollment on impoertnt document |
| 15:06.06 | barbado | pranav_: I think proposals are to be sent to mentoring organizations. |
| 15:06.34 | pranav_ | but as per last year we had to submit it to google site also |
| 15:06.40 | Niharika | barbado: Nope. Proposals are to be uploaded on Melange. Sending to mentoring organizations is not a hard requirement. |
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| 15:07.11 | Niharika | pranav_: Ask on #melange. You're probably doing something wrong. People have submitted proposals already. |
| 15:07.13 | pranav_ | anyone facing this same issue with the website or is it just me ? |
| 15:07.21 | deeprdo | After discussing project with organization where to submit proposal on GSoC site? |
| 15:07.21 | deeprdo | What are the steps to follow after discussing ideas with organization? |
| 15:07.23 | sigorilla | pranav_, you can see proof of enrollment in your profile of Melange at the bottom of the page |
| 15:07.43 | barbado | Niharika: OK. Thank you. |
| 15:07.55 | sigorilla | ^ This page: https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/show/google/gsoc2015 |
| 15:08.08 | pranav_ | singorilla yes but i can enter my proposal |
| 15:08.09 | gevaerts | pranav_: just to be sure, you're not using different google accounts? |
| 15:08.35 | pranav_ | no |
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| 15:09.27 | pranav_ | i posted this on melange channel but no reply :( |
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| 15:09.48 | deeprdo | pranav_: wait they will reply |
| 15:09.52 | deeprdo | for sure |
| 15:10.01 | pranav_ | gavaerts : what do you mean by diff google account ? |
| 15:10.02 | Niharika | pranav_: Quoting |Kev| "If you don't get a response on IRC within a few hours, and you see other conversations there, you might repost it. After several hours. If you don't get a response after a day or two, maybe try another venue." |
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| 15:10.25 | pranav_ | thanks Niharika |
| 15:10.45 | pranav_ | but as the deadline passes i am worried my proposal would be in danger |
| 15:10.50 | Niharika | pranav: IRC supports tab completion. It's surprising how many people don't know that. |
| 15:11.12 | Niharika | Grave danger. |
| 15:11.21 | gevaerts | pranav_: it's not uncommon for people to register on melange with one google account, forget which one that was, then log in with another one, and find that what they did before isn't there |
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| 15:12.10 | pranav_ | i wil try to enter my proposal with a fresh account , that will not cause any trouble right ? |
| 15:12.22 | sigorilla | What do you see on the main page? Button with text "Submit proposal" or may be smth else? |
| 15:12.38 | gevaerts | pranav_: that should be fine |
| 15:12.56 | barbado | Niharika: How to Submit Your Proof of Enrollment |
| 15:12.58 | barbado | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:13.00 | barbado | Please submit your forms electronically on www.google-melange.com. Simply click on your "My Profile" link. You should see a number of sections listing your personal details. The bottom one is called "Forms". Within that section there should be an item with the name "Enrollment Form" and a value "No form submitted". Clicking on "Upload" link takes you to a page where you can upload your... |
| 15:13.01 | barbado | ...document(s). After submission you will be able to see the name of the file you just uploaded. At this point are allowed to submit proposals to the mentoring organization. If you need, you can also re-upload your documents. |
| 15:13.03 | barbado | https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/proofofenrollment |
| 15:13.07 | pranav_ | Niharika, thanks for the tip . i will definitely use tab from now onwards |
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| 15:13.31 | Niharika | barbado: What part of that is not clear? |
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| 15:14.11 | barbado | Niharika: "... After submission you will be able to see the name of the file you just uploaded. At this point are allowed to submit proposals to the mentoring organization..." |
| 15:14.34 | Niharika | barbado: I can read stuff for myself. What's the doubt? |
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| 15:15.32 | pranav_ | http://tinypic.com/r/28040o/8 |
| 15:15.34 | barbado | Niharika: So I should both upload my proposal on Melange, and send it to mentoring organizations. Looks like a hard requirement. |
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| 15:15.44 | pranav_ | this is my screen when i open prposals tab |
| 15:15.57 | drawkward | barbado: the file they are referring to is the enrollment form |
| 15:16.11 | drawkward | upload the enrollment form only then can you submit a proposal |
| 15:16.34 | drawkward | i mean proof of enrollment |
| 15:16.35 | Niharika | barbado: No. It's not a hard requirement. But if you haven't discussed your proposal with your prospective mentors and just submit it on Melange, chances of acceptance are pretty low. |
| 15:16.35 | kagimub | hey. just a short question.......i have editted about a third of my proposal....should i submit it now and keep editting it or should i first finish it then submit |
| 15:16.41 | |Kev| | barbado: You submit to the mentoring org by filing your proposal in Melange. It is not usual to send proposals directly to a mentoring org (and, indeed, if you only do that you cannot be accepted) |
| 15:16.42 | gevaerts | barbado: unless the organisation specifies differently, there's no reason to put your proposal anywhere other than on melange |
| 15:16.55 | |Kev| | kagimub: Ask your org for their preference. |
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| 15:17.29 | drawkward | can organisations see all the revisions I make to the proposal? |
| 15:17.35 | barbado | OK thank you people. |
| 15:17.48 | drawkward | or do they only see the final proposal? |
| 15:17.51 | |Kev| | drawkward: From memory, there's no way to diff the revisions. But they might copy them out manually, of course. |
| 15:18.00 | |Kev| | Once you submit it, it's visible. |
| 15:18.07 | Sorunome | Hey, is germanys "Gymnasium" Grade 12 eligible? |
| 15:18.20 | barbado | drawkward: So, it's not only about proof of enrollment. Proposals should also be uplaoded. |
| 15:18.35 | teepee-- | |Kev|: there's a "version" button on the proposals now, but I've not tested that yet :) |
| 15:18.42 | |Kev| | teepee--: Oh, exciting, thanks :) |
| 15:18.49 | drawkward | |Kev|: I messed up the formatting in the first version of the proposal. do i have to worry that my organisation would be reading that? |
| 15:19.02 | |Kev| | drawkward: If you already submitted, I'd assume that someone will be reading it. |
| 15:19.08 | drawkward | barbado: you dont hvae to upload your proposal. you have to paste it in melange editor. |
| 15:19.30 | |Kev| | drawkward: But as you're in communication with the org outside Melange (you *are*, right?), just mention it to them, or put a comment in Melange, or something. |
| 15:19.50 | drawkward | |Kev|: okay that sounds good |
| 15:20.02 | barbado | drawkward: Ah, right, thanks. |
| 15:20.13 | |Kev| | drawkward: They'll have received a mail with the proposal in, for one thing :) |
| 15:20.51 | drawkward | |Kev|: I hope that when they open the mail they are reading the latest version of the proposal |
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| 15:21.20 | |Kev| | drawkward: It's included in the mail. |
| 15:21.29 | drawkward | okay thanks |
| 15:21.31 | |Kev| | So they'll have a copy of the first submission in the body text. |
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| 15:31.20 | pranav | hi i just founf out that i was at mistake and i am able to submit the proposal now |
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| 15:46.39 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 15:47.21 | downey | yay, tea! |
| 15:47.44 | carols | :-) |
| 15:49.40 | meflin | has some tea ... bah rainy 4th Monday |
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| 17:18.50 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
| 17:20.20 | ChristianM | adds cookies and chocolate |
| 17:20.25 | carols | thanks ChristianM |
| 17:20.36 | ChristianM | nothing to thank for carols :) |
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| 17:20.55 | carols | itâs always polite to say thank you. âthank youâ is never out of place. |
| 17:21.38 | ChristianM | true, true and of course I am happy to hear the thank you. But I wouldn't feel bad if it didn't happen ;) |
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| 17:22.03 | carols | :-) |
| 17:22.11 | ChristianM | but actually carols you and your team is doing all the work here, so you should get the tea and coffee served |
| 17:22.34 | carols | ChristianM: thereâs no need for that. we can all be kind to each other regardless of our workload. |
| 17:22.48 | vbarros | getting diabetes from the conversation * |
| 17:23.01 | ChristianM | hahaha |
| 17:23.59 | ChristianM | rather too sweet than to sour |
| 17:24.22 | ChristianM | mmm, could become my motto |
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| 17:25.10 | vbarros | Crofton|work: for shure it is |
| 17:25.18 | vbarros | oops |
| 17:25.20 | vbarros | extra oops |
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| 17:25.49 | vbarros | ChristianM: for shure it is |
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| 17:26.17 | ChristianM | I have nothing against a whiskey sour ;) |
| 17:27.11 | ChristianM | ups, I apologise. this is a students channel. I don't wan't to endorse the use of alcohol |
| 17:28.22 | vbarros | ChristianM: xD |
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| 18:05.32 | darnir | wishes more students had their applications proof-read and spell-checked before submitting. |
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| 18:05.59 | meflin | I have one that is a copy->paste of your template from the web page :D |
| 18:06.14 | meflin | and by your I mean mine |
| 18:06.35 | darnir | Might be a placeholder. |
| 18:06.43 | meflin | hope so |
| 18:07.38 | Niharika | I'm surprised by the number of spam(my) applications. (First time admin here) |
| 18:08.09 | darnir | Niharika: With your org, I'm not surprised. (No offence, the more well known the org is, the more I'd expect) |
| 18:09.01 | darnir | I saw a few last year. but they came towards the very end of the application period. |
| 18:09.28 | Niharika | Perhaps. darnir, do you reply nicely so just ignore them? :P |
| 18:09.30 | |Kev| | I've not had any spam applications yet, which is unusual. |
| 18:09.32 | Niharika | or* |
| 18:10.04 | darnir | Niharika: In general, simply ignore them. |
| 18:10.06 | meflin | spam is usual |
| 18:10.32 | meflin | do not ignore any student on your officially listed communication channels |
| 18:10.39 | Lirux | Can anyone recommend a project for a second year CS student? |
| 18:10.40 | Niharika | Right. I was trynna be nice to everyone but they don't even bother checking the comments I suppose. |
| 18:10.41 | meflin | this is required in 48 hours |
| 18:11.24 | carols | Lirux: what are you interested in? |
| 18:11.40 | darnir | meflin: But a proposal on melange for a project that is not even closely related to the organization? |
| 18:11.50 | Lirux | carols, security, linux, networking , gaming |
| 18:12.01 | carols | Lirux: have you searched for those tags on the organizations list? |
| 18:12.03 | meflin | not sure I would go with your contact info |
| 18:12.04 | darnir | And the student hasn't contacted you on your communication channels at all. |
| 18:12.21 | Niharika | Some of the proposals are downright funny. |
| 18:12.46 | Lirux | carols, yes ofcurse, but I am afraid that I am 'not good enough' for them.. because I need to applay with a workplan |
| 18:12.54 | Lirux | apply* |
| 18:12.55 | carols | Lirux: did you read the student manual? |
| 18:13.02 | carols | thereâs a section in there about that topic. |
| 18:13.03 | meflin | Lirux: check out copyleftgames and pawntools ( off the top of the head ) search for tags |
| 18:13.05 | Lirux | carols, yes, |
| 18:13.20 | carols | okay great, then that should help :-) |
| 18:13.54 | Lirux | pawntools are not there |
| 18:14.02 | Lirux | The only one I saw was tux4kids |
| 18:14.08 | carols | Lirux: could you and meflin take this to a PM? |
| 18:14.18 | meflin | yep |
| 18:14.22 | carols | thanks :-) |
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| 18:23.52 | canis | i have been working hard on my gsoc proposal. my girlfriend broke up with me today, and i feel pathetic |
| 18:24.02 | carols | canis: iâm sorry to hear that. |
| 18:24.08 | carols | you can still submit your proposal |
| 18:24.14 | DVSS | i am unable to join the #CopyleftGames irc.Can someone help? |
| 18:24.15 | carols | maybe talking to your org would help you feel better |
| 18:24.28 | canis | i don't know if i can make a good proposal now |
| 18:24.50 | carols | canis: only you can find the motivation in yourself to do so. we canât write it for you. |
| 18:25.29 | canis | but the timing of this event is so bad. gsoc was my dream project |
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| 18:25.51 | carols | canis: iâm sorry to hear that. you can always contribute to an organization outside of gsoc |
| 18:25.59 | carols | these orgs welcome new contributors. |
| 18:26.15 | meflin | DVSS: /joinn #copyleftgames works |
| 18:26.20 | carols | i know lots of people who say contributing to a foss organization is very personally rewarding for them |
| 18:27.09 | canis | ok thanks carols . i was kind of feeling suicidal now.. |
| 18:27.22 | meflin | get help |
| 18:27.26 | carols | canis: i can give you the contact information for suicide help lines |
| 18:27.38 | carols | canis: we can also give you access to any resources you need |
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| 18:27.58 | DVSS | thanks.it worked. |
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| 18:28.23 | carols | canis: i assure you the worldâs a better place with you in it, and there are lots of people who can help you if you want |
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| 18:29.35 | canis | i know that this is no place to talk about my personal problems. but i am kinda too messed up right now and i don't know what to do |
| 18:29.57 | carols | canis: would you like to take this to a PM? iâm happy to speak with you further about it. |
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| 18:30.34 | canis | thanks carols i think that would help me |
| 18:30.39 | carols | sure |
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| 18:32.18 | Guest92865 | Hello everyone ! I am facing problem while uploading image in proposal. I have tried in both chrome and firefox . I have also made access to image allow still not able to upload image any suggestions ? |
| 18:32.50 | meflin | try a html link? |
| 18:33.00 | meflin | or ask in #melange |
| 18:34.42 | Guest92865 | Ok ! one more thing i want to add in source tab I have given path like /home/user/image.png still not uploading |
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| 18:35.40 | carols | Guest92865: please file a bug with the melange team, they can help you out |
| 18:36.21 | Guest92865 | carols , meflin : thank you ! :) |
| 18:36.45 | carols | yw |
| 18:37.54 | GillSans | darnir: I plan to submit my wget-related proposal today or tomorrow. Was going to use spell-check anyway, but will have my mom look it over *just* for you. ;) |
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| 18:46.11 | taurus | hi all:) |
| 18:46.31 | carols | hi taurus |
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| 19:14.50 | htrap | hello i was having a hard time splitting my deliverable's into tasks per week, since i cannot be sure of the path i would take while development and how much time each task would take, could anyone suggest me any pointers so as to how can i draft my milestones in accordance to the gsoc timeframe |
| 19:15.28 | meflin | do you best put up the app and get feedback from your mentor |
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| 19:17.50 | htrap | meflin: okay will do that, thanks |
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| 19:19.06 | htrap | But even while i am doing it, each task is ambiguous since i cannot be sure of the time-frame it would take. |
| 19:19.28 | carols | htrap: did you speak to the org and your potential mentor about it? |
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| 19:21.55 | htrap | carols: i mailed my draft to my mentor, but they are busy currently so i though i could take pointers from other mentors here, as i wanted to set realistic milestones in the application. |
| 19:22.34 | carols | htrap: the best people to talk to are those from your potential mentoring organization, since they understand the project and can help you better than anyone on here. |
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| 19:22.45 | carols | we donât know the codebase, the project, or the complexity |
| 19:23.03 | carols | the question youâre asking requires knowledge of all of those things |
| 19:23.50 | htrap | okay but in general sense what do mentors look for in the milestones part of the application |
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| 19:24.15 | carols | htrap: have you seen the sample proposals in the student manual? those give you general guidelines |
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| 19:24.46 | carols | or just the âwriting a proposalâ section of the manual |
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| 19:25.45 | erandros | Hello. |
| 19:25.46 | htrap | carols: yes i did, i should wait for the mentors feedback i guess, Thanks anyways :) |
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| 19:25.55 | carols | htrap: youâre welcome |
| 19:25.58 | carols | hello erandros |
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| 19:28.07 | monokles | wait what |
| 19:28.10 | monokles | there's sample proposals? |
| 19:28.21 | carols | monokles: sure, did you read the student manual? |
| 19:28.35 | monokles | I have a strict policy of not reading manuals |
| 19:28.39 | monokles | not the bits that matter anyway |
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| 19:28.47 | carols | then that would probably be why you donât know about them :-) |
| 19:28.55 | monokles | I only read the faq |
| 19:29.07 | carols | thatâs a great place to start. |
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| 19:31.32 | gevaerts | !studentguide | monokles |
| 19:31.32 | gsocbot | monokles: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 19:32.51 | monokles | yeah, just found it myself, ty. Will definitely be reading it (It's a guide, not a manual. no strict policies on guides here) |
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| 19:52.18 | Jill | Hey guys, I am a new to GSOC.Is there anyone planning to work on Openwall project? |
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| 19:53.49 | carols | Jill: the place youâd probably find those people would be in the openwall discussion channels |
| 19:54.41 | Jill | alright. thanks. |
| 19:54.47 | carols | cheers |
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| 20:37.00 | carols | serves some afternoon tea and coffee |
| 20:37.07 | downey | ooooh, tea :D |
| 20:37.09 | downey | thanks carols |
| 20:37.11 | carols | yw |
| 20:37.32 | downey | steals meflin's share |
| 20:37.51 | carols | aw, poor meflin |
| 20:38.15 | downey | sweet sweet revenge ;-) |
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| 20:38.36 | downey | actually, i'm probably caffeinated enough today |
| 20:38.39 | gevaerts | meflin can have downey's tea |
| 20:38.50 | gevaerts | Then everyone's happy :) |
| 20:38.57 | downey | meflin lets no tea go unused |
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| 20:43.04 | downey | sttaylor: you around? :) |
| 20:43.23 | sttaylor | downey: yes |
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| 21:03.25 | ujjwal | I can read/write code well, but my communications skill are not that good. I think it will be better if I apply next year with better preparation |
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| 21:04.12 | meflin | could be so so .. but do not sell yourself short |
| 21:04.31 | meflin | no harm in giving it a go |
| 21:04.32 | hertziii | what kind of proposal we need to submit ? |
| 21:04.47 | meflin | hertziii: a good one :P |
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| 21:05.19 | hertziii | Meflin : sure :D |
| 21:05.20 | meflin | each org had there own criteria |
| 21:08.30 | perepujal | a proposal that makes the mentor think how can have them lived without the code you wikk do and that you are the best person to do it |
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| 21:10.46 | hertziii | perepujal : ok that's very interesting . But what is the odds i'm the best person to do it ? a little anxiety ! |
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| 21:13.09 | perepujal | You may have a great idea but you could appear unprepared to develop it(to the mentor's eyes) |
| 21:14.15 | perepujal | so you need both the idea and the preparation, and communicate both to the mentors |
| 21:15.25 | hertziii | yeah , got it. thanks :D |
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| 21:51.23 | niilante | hi |
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| 21:52.49 | niilante | please who can i speak to anyone who applied for sugar labs projects |
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| 21:54.58 | user1773 | Hello, I have some weird question :P |
| 21:55.05 | user1773 | I submitted my proof of enrollment but I am not very sure about its validity, so if it isn't valid, how much time does it take to get a response saying it isn't valid? |
| 21:57.41 | perepujal | From other years same question: don't care, if it is not valid, then you will be requested to provide a valid thing |
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| 22:51.24 | aliyasar | Can we join someone's project or everyone must propose a project to Google for Google Summer of Code? |
| 22:52.37 | carols | aliyasar: you donât join google, you join a mentoring organization |
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| 23:03.51 | aliyasar | "Propose a project for approval by a mentoring open source organization" will it be on Github only creating a pulling request any accepted open source organization's project? |
| 23:04.35 | carols | aliyasar: a code change _may_ be required from the org, or might not. but you do have to submit a proposal no matter what. |
| 23:04.46 | carols | have you read the FAQs and the student manual? |
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