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00:03.54 | anand2182 | Hello I would like to ask Does sending too many applications give a wrong impression to the organisation? |
00:04.26 | anand2182 | and Do organisationsknow when we send proposals to other organisations? |
00:05.21 | teepee | anand2182: they might find out if both want to accept the proposal :) |
00:05.48 | teepee | anand2182: in general it's probably better to focus more on quality than quantity |
00:06.08 | anand2182 | But the response for some organisations is not upto the mark |
00:06.22 | anand2182 | to judge if they are interested in the project you want to pursue |
00:07.14 | teepee | I doubt any org spends the time to create the idea lists if they are not interrested |
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00:40.16 | candyline | Hi |
00:40.37 | candyline | anyone here ? |
00:41.12 | teepee | sure |
00:41.26 | dfighter | someone must be! |
00:41.47 | candyline | how does this work ? |
00:41.56 | dfighter | you read the FAQ and you find out! |
00:42.00 | dfighter | that's how it works! |
00:42.01 | dfighter | :) |
00:42.07 | candyline | I did thats how I got here HAHA : D |
00:42.14 | candyline | are all you guys gsoc? |
00:42.42 | dfighter | if you had read the FAQ you'd know how it works :) |
00:44.07 | candyline | ahhhh I seee, makes sense, thanks |
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02:29.21 | asla | hi :) |
02:29.25 | evnb | hey :D |
02:29.37 | asla | how many weeks is Gsoc ?? |
02:29.49 | asla | The timetable is such a pain in the ass to read |
02:29.53 | asla | :p |
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02:30.18 | DaSpirit | 13 weeks I think. |
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02:30.35 | evnb | closer to 12 It hink ? |
02:31.05 | DaSpirit | I listed weeks in my proposal. |
02:31.13 | DaSpirit | On 13th week, it's final evaluations. |
02:31.27 | evnb | ahh, okay |
02:31.27 | asla | Am writing proposal but I cannot be able to follow the timetable or whatever |
02:31.38 | dumindux | 12 weeks till the pencils down date. |
02:31.47 | asla | DaSpirit, how many weeks until midterm evals ? |
02:31.59 | DaSpirit | Starts 5th week. |
02:32.20 | asla | kk thx |
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02:35.06 | digshadow-w | if I happen to work for google and am interested in a particular project, is there anything I can do to help that project succeed (get accepted, support it, etc) |
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02:37.52 | asla | digshadow-w, submit a patch |
02:38.39 | evnb | I found out about this program late, is there any chance to still talk with mentoring organizations? |
02:39.37 | asla | Maybe you should just try evnb :) |
02:39.51 | evnb | yeah, I just have low confidence, I've never contributed anything before |
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02:42.53 | asla | evnb, depends on what project you want to contribute to,... also my opinion is there are students who have never contributed anything BUT are skilled enough to work on a good project |
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02:51.17 | asla | Editing on melange is a pain - I come up with different fonts which I cannot tell which is which :o |
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02:53.41 | olly | you probably want to edit it in some sane editor and just paste in the update HTML |
02:53.47 | olly | though beware that can get quite mangled |
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02:56.21 | evnb | what project(s) are you wanting to contribute to asla (if you don't mind me asking)? |
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03:17.22 | asla | evnb, I want to apply to Qemu ;) to implement emulation of some hardware anyways i gotta go :) |
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03:35.52 | Seun | Since I can change proposals all I want until the deadline, should I submit a proposal template and fill it up as I go, so that I'm ensure the most recent version is submitted by the deadline? |
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07:16.34 | alexbcn1994_ | hi everyone, can someone tell me where i can find my submited proposals?i just can't find |
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07:20.33 | Manikandan | Hey, how do i drag a proposal in google melange |
07:21.03 | alexbcn1994_ | can u see your submited proposals? |
07:21.08 | Manikandan | no |
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07:21.25 | Manikandan | I have just sent my proposal to my mentor |
07:21.38 | Manikandan | Then just created a account in gsoc page |
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07:21.56 | Manikandan | How do i submit |
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07:23.28 | terri | Manikandan: have you put in your eligibility paperwork? it wonât let you submit an application until thatâs filed, I gather. |
07:23.50 | Manikandan | Means an enrollment form |
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07:33.56 | |Kev| | Seun: Chat to your org about that. Submitting an empty application may look like spam to them. |
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07:44.13 | Manikandan | I have submitted the enrollment and then the proposal, that was the prob:) |
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09:17.38 | ZeekHuge | How do we submit a proposal ? Is there any prescribed format ? |
09:17.56 | olly | most orgs provide an application template |
09:18.02 | olly | if they do, follow it |
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11:18.04 | ujjwal | while submitting proposal where will I find org specific application template? |
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11:31.06 | chick | Hi i wish to know if its possible to edit a proposal on melange after student application is closed? |
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11:36.04 | VarunAgw | I'm not sure but I think you have to ask your mentor for permission to edit it after application period. |
11:36.37 | VarunAgw | ujjwal, Try googling "%org_name% gsoc application template" |
11:36.56 | VarunAgw | Some org. don't have any specific application template |
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11:38.02 | ujjwal | VarunAgw, I tried googling no luck :( |
11:38.46 | olly | ujjwal: ask them? |
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11:39.02 | VarunAgw | What is the name of org? |
11:39.14 | ujjwal | metabrainz |
11:40.00 | ujjwal | I asked here because I thought that application proposal is also available on melange |
11:40.14 | ujjwal | *application template |
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11:44.07 | olly | it used to be that when a student started a proposal, the template got inserted as a starting point |
11:44.23 | olly | but melange changes each year... |
11:45.24 | olly | and AFAIK they no longer have the test instance we can poke at to see what the students see |
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13:03.10 | platypus_ | I needed a bit of clarification regarding the rule at https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#2._Whos_eligible_to_participate_as_a |
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13:06.33 | banviktor | hi |
13:06.52 | banviktor | if I upload a proposal that means it's final or can I update it till friday? |
13:07.10 | gevaerts | You can update it until the deadline |
13:08.21 | gevaerts | platypus_: what sort of clarification? |
13:08.30 | banviktor | gevaerts: thank you |
13:08.44 | platypus_ | gevaerts: As per my current plans for summer, I'll be visiting my parents in a country where I cannot get a work visa |
13:08.57 | platypus_ | because I'll only get a work visa if my employer is a citizen of that country |
13:09.17 | platypus_ | Which isn't the case, as far as I can see. |
13:09.21 | platypus_ | Does that mean I cannot apply at all? |
13:09.35 | gevaerts | Probably, yes |
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13:10.36 | gevaerts | You have to be legally allowed to work where you are (short holidays aren't an issue of course), and with gsoc being work-from-home there isn't any visa help provided |
13:10.46 | platypus_ | So a student is not allowed to visit family in summer for a couple of weeks? :/ And if she/he does it would be illegal? |
13:11.27 | gevaerts | What sort of periods are you talking about? |
13:11.40 | gevaerts | A few weeks, or a few months? |
13:11.47 | platypus_ | Two weeks to a month. |
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13:12.42 | gevaerts | If you can work out with your organisation that you won't be working during that period (conpensating by e.g. starting early or something like that), that might be doable |
13:13.26 | gevaerts | It's not really gsoc's fault that most countries restrict work by foreigners without a visa... |
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13:14.41 | platypus_ | gevaerts: agreed, but it would be also be unfair of gsoc to expect a student not to visit family at all |
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13:15.11 | gevaerts | platypus_: most organisations are fine with people taking a few weeks off, *if* this doesn't come as a surprise to them |
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13:15.32 | platypus_ | gevaerts: and it wouldn't be prohibited by the agreement then? |
13:15.44 | gevaerts | No |
13:16.32 | platypus_ | gevaerts: awesome! Is there any way I can get that confirmed officially so that it doesn't bite me later if someone brings it up? |
13:16.53 | Niharika | platypus_: It's not forbidden by agreement. You need to talk to your mentor/org admin and make sure they are okay with this. |
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13:20.30 | danitorra | !next |
13:20.31 | gsocbot | danitorra: "next" is GSoC student applications close on 27 March at 19:00 UTC |
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13:49.38 | kartikgupta0909 | Hello, i am submitting two proposals in two different organisations, do i need to do something extra? |
13:49.52 | kartikgupta0909 | i mean do i need to mention that anywhere? |
13:50.35 | sgallagh | kartikgupta0909: It may be worth letting the mentors for both organizations know, so they can account for that in their decisions. |
13:50.51 | sgallagh | (or discuss between them who needs you more ;-) ) |
13:51.27 | kartikgupta0909 | The problem is that portland university has no mentor for now, no irc or mailing list, so how should i contact them? |
13:52.26 | kartikgupta0909 | should i mention this thing in the proposal which i prefer more that i am applying to another org and i prefer you over the other? |
13:54.10 | VarunAgw | kartikgupta0909, Don't do this. EVER |
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13:55.13 | VarunAgw | https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/portland_state |
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13:55.39 | VarunAgw | Check their contact list kartikgupta0909 |
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14:01.36 | tipo | Hello, how i can upload my proposal? |
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14:03.23 | tipo | Hello, how can i upload my proposal? |
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14:03.43 | gevaerts | tipo: there should be a large button on the melange gsoc homepage |
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14:03.59 | gevaerts | Unless you haven't uploaded your proof of enrollment of course |
14:04.27 | tipo | @gevaerts, thank you! |
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14:07.15 | tipo | I should to upload my proposal before March 28? |
14:07.27 | teepee-- | yes |
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14:07.30 | teepee-- | !next |
14:07.32 | gsocbot | teepee--: "next" is GSoC student applications close on 27 March at 19:00 UTC |
14:07.40 | teepee-- | tipo: before ^ |
14:07.40 | VarunAgw | Earlier the better |
14:07.55 | tipo | Thank you! |
14:08.06 | tipo | :-D |
14:08.51 | teepee-- | tipo: it's editable till deadline, waiting for the last moment is risky |
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14:14.08 | ari___ | once i am submitting my proposal it is showing submitted but when i am clicking on my dashboard it is not showing anything |
14:15.56 | ari___ | can anyone help me |
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14:19.38 | blast007 | ari___: if you don't get a response here, you could try asking in #melange as that is the channel for the software GSoC uses |
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16:10.29 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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16:36.49 | brlcad | drinks the tea |
16:36.55 | carols | hi brlcad |
16:36.59 | carols | hope youâre doing well |
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16:37.14 | brlcad | I've been better :) but doing well enough |
16:37.29 | carols | :-) |
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17:07.56 | coolsounak101 | Hi |
17:08.01 | carols | hi coolsounak101 |
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17:15.10 | rjkwok | Hi |
17:15.50 | carols | hi rjkwok |
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17:18.15 | rjkwok | So I recieved a comment on a proposal, with suggestions. |
17:18.24 | carols | rjkwok: okay |
17:18.42 | rjkwok | Should I amend my proposal? |
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17:18.52 | carols | rjkwok: what does the mentoring organization say? |
17:19.05 | carols | if they asked you to amend it, you should. |
17:19.28 | rjkwok | They didn't specify. |
17:19.42 | carols | rjkwok: then you should speak to them directly about it. |
17:20.01 | rjkwok | Okay, thanks |
17:20.07 | carols | cheers |
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17:23.23 | RahulHP | Can we edit the proposal before the deadline after submitting it once? |
17:23.39 | carols | RahulHP: sure |
17:23.54 | RahulHP | Thanks |
17:23.57 | carols | yw |
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17:27.11 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
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17:38.39 | tniessen | I did not receive any feedback about the validity of the documents I provided as a "proof of enrollment". Will those be evaluated after choosing the students? |
17:39.12 | Niharika | tniessen: I think so, yes. |
17:39.16 | carols | tniessen: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/proofofenrollment âIf you do not receive an email request from us for a new document you can assume what you submitted is fine." |
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17:40.04 | tniessen | carols, Niharika: thanks, great |
17:40.10 | carols | yw |
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17:43.45 | dfighter | carols, do you ( I mean the team, not just you personally ) actually check each and every one of them, or just randomly? |
17:43.57 | carols | dfighter: yes, we check each and every one |
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17:44.23 | dfighter | carols, then it's worse than I thought, thanks for being here for us :) |
17:44.31 | carols | yw |
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17:52.17 | prasad_ | i have fill the application form but how can i apporoach the orgnizations |
17:52.29 | carols | prasad_: using their preferred communication method |
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17:52.59 | prasad_ | k carols |
17:53.59 | VarunAgw_ | prasad_, They generally list it in contact section in organisation page in google-melange.com |
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17:57.50 | prasad_ | k Varun r u from india |
18:00.13 | VarunAgw | !logs |
18:00.13 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
18:00.13 | prasad_ | To approach organization last date is 27/03/15 ? |
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18:01.09 | carols | prasad_: yes, but please keep in mind that itâs much better to make contact with an organization before you submit a proposal. and the 27th is also the deadline for submitting a proposal. |
18:01.15 | carols | so really, you should be contacting them before then. |
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18:20.21 | Rajdeep_ | Hi, i am planning to submit my proposal in sugar labs please tell what things i need to be specific in the time line for development of the project |
18:20.37 | meflin | you should ask your project |
18:20.38 | carols | Rajdeep_: the folks who will know the answer to that question are at sugar labs |
18:20.42 | carols | you should speak to them |
18:20.56 | Rajdeep_ | Thanks |
18:21.00 | carols | yw |
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18:22.58 | jdiez | hello everyone, I've drafted an application for a project I'm very interested in. It's my first time applying through GSoC. Can someone take a look at my application? |
18:23.16 | carols | jdiez: the best people to do that would be the people with the organization youâre applying to |
18:23.25 | carols | they will have the comments and criteria theyâre looking for |
18:23.41 | jdiez | carols: I've already asked them, and they told me it looks good. just looking for another set of eyes :) |
18:23.53 | carols | jdiez: if they told you it looks good you donât need us :-) |
18:24.14 | carols | the only people you have to impress are them |
18:24.54 | jdiez | carols: alright then :) bit nervous about this, it's a really awesome project with a really awesome org |
18:25.02 | carols | i can understand that |
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18:25.09 | carols | good luck! |
18:25.13 | jdiez | thank you! :) |
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18:25.16 | carols | yw |
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18:33.18 | NikolaiToryzin | carols, How's the tea treating you this year? |
18:33.26 | carols | NikolaiToryzin: good, thanks |
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18:34.03 | NikolaiToryzin | carols, Glad to hear, it always was the staple of this channels diet :) |
18:34.07 | carols | :-) |
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18:52.20 | himangi | can a proposal be editted after submitting? |
18:52.42 | meflin | untill the deadline |
18:53.07 | himangi | meflin: are you sure we can make any changes? |
18:53.18 | himangi | till 27th March of course |
18:53.34 | meflin | yes |
18:54.19 | gevaerts | We can't guarantee you won't break your arms though, which would make you unable to type |
18:54.29 | gevaerts | So there's always *some* uncertainty |
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18:58.15 | abhi6823 | i want an abstract model to be sent ti gsoc. any help? |
18:58.24 | abhi6823 | to* |
18:58.34 | meflin | check the tags in the org list |
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19:00.32 | meflin | https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015 |
19:00.36 | meflin | do not PM me |
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19:59.04 | Zabot | What is the age requirement? I turned 18 yesterday, but the application says I cannot participate. |
19:59.23 | carols | Zabot: you must be 18 at the time you sign the student agreement |
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19:59.41 | carols | Zabot: if youâre having trouble, please file a bug with the melange developers |
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20:01.04 | Zabot | Is there anyone I can contact to make sure my propsal gets submitted if the bug isn't resolved? |
20:01.31 | carols | Zabot: yes, the melange developers, via a bug |
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20:45.20 | mustafab | Hello everyone, do you think it is too late to apply for this year? |
20:45.34 | carols | mustafab: have you had contact with your potential mentoring organization? |
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20:46.20 | gevaerts | mustafab: it's never too late, but it's always high time |
20:46.29 | mustafab | no I just skimmed the possible organizations and their projects. I haven't contacted to them. |
20:47.03 | mustafab | as far as I understand we, students, need to discuss with mentors before submitting our proposals |
20:47.21 | carols | mustafab: well, you should always contact the organization and then submit a proposal when and if they say you should |
20:47.26 | mustafab | and I am not sure 2 days is enough for that |
20:47.38 | carols | mustafab: well, if you feel itâs not, thatâs your choice to make |
20:47.54 | carols | but the people who can advise you better on it are the mentors and admins of the organization |
20:48.19 | gevaerts | mustafab: I wouldn't give up yet |
20:48.32 | mustafab | so in the proposal the main point is to reflect our motivation for the project, right? |
20:48.33 | gevaerts | You'll need to spend a lot of time on it for the next one or two days though |
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20:48.56 | mustafab | @gevaerts, I see your point and definitely consider it :) |
20:49.20 | carols | mustafab: the main point is to begin collaborating with an open source organization |
20:49.21 | gevaerts | wonders how MatthewWilkes' gsoc-proposal-in-a-day project is going :) |
20:49.28 | carols | whether thatâs through gsoc or not |
20:50.21 | gevaerts | mustafab: have you read the student guide and the FAQ? |
20:50.31 | gevaerts | !faq | mustafab |
20:50.31 | gsocbot | mustafab: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page |
20:50.37 | gevaerts | !studentguide | mustafab |
20:50.37 | gsocbot | mustafab: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ or if that site is down https://web.archive.org/web/20150314235727/http://flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/ |
20:51.03 | mustafab | yeah kind of but now I take it serious and start reading the manual. |
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20:51.06 | mustafab | thank you a lot |
20:51.08 | gevaerts | The student guide has some example proposals (as well as other useful stuff) |
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20:54.06 | mustafab | cheers all, take care |
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21:02.31 | Bhash90 | Hi |
21:02.36 | carols | hi Bhash90 |
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21:03.40 | Bhash90 | I want to know whehter is it ok to participate GSoC 2 times with the same project |
21:03.52 | carols | Bhash90: nope |
21:04.15 | meflin | how can you do more then one project at once? |
21:05.02 | Bhash90 | I mean I particiapted in last time GSoC as well |
21:05.34 | carols | Bhash90: maybe i donât understand the question |
21:05.34 | meflin | no problem |
21:05.37 | carols | could you rephrase? |
21:07.25 | Bhash90 | Can I particiapted GSoC-2105 with same organization that I participated GSoC-2014 |
21:07.31 | carols | Bhash90: sure |
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21:08.40 | Bhash90 | :) my bad phrasing |
21:08.40 | Bhash90 | thanks |
21:08.44 | carols | yw |
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21:14.03 | ismnoiet | hello |
21:14.40 | carols | ismnoiet: hi |
21:14.51 | ismnoiet | good @carols |
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21:14.59 | ismnoiet | if have a simple question |
21:15.36 | carols | ismnoiet: sure |
21:15.52 | ismnoiet | for the proof of enrollment if have to prive a scanned copy |
21:16.06 | carols | ismnoiet: did you read the instructions page? |
21:16.22 | ismnoiet | yes of course |
21:16.25 | ismnoiet | i did |
21:16.53 | ismnoiet | and a get a copy of what they want |
21:17.15 | dfighter | carols, is one of they |
21:17.28 | ismnoiet | the question is can i upload a photo taken by the phone but not scanned |
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21:19.01 | carols | ismnoiet: sure, thatâs fine |
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21:19.49 | ismnoiet | good and for the school certificate i have one in arabic |
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21:21.32 | ismnoiet | for the english version i have to take it to an official translator in order to translate it or i can translate it by myself ? |
21:22.19 | carols | ismnoiet: thatâs included on the instructions |
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21:24.28 | ismnoiet | Thank you @carols i'll upload them and come back |
21:24.33 | carols | great |
21:24.54 | gevaerts | ismnoiet: carols' word is of course final, but I would assume that if a notarised document or anything like that were required, that would be stated explicitly |
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21:26.01 | ismnoiet | yes @gevaerts i believe |
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21:26.39 | Zabot | carols: I submitted a bug report in regards to the age verification, they said it was working as intended and that you must be 18 before the 16th, is there any way this can be changed, or at least the faq updated to include the cutoff deadline? |
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21:29.03 | gevaerts | Zabot: I'd recommend email :) |
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21:30.02 | Zabot | gevaerts: yeah, missed her by 10 minutes |
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21:30.09 | carols | Zabot: sure, try again |
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21:34.03 | Zabot | carols: yes that worked, thank you very much |
21:34.06 | carols | cheers |
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22:19.04 | carols | serves some afternoon tea and coffee |
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22:19.16 | meflin | mmm tea thanks |
22:19.27 | carols | yw meflin |
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22:20.54 | meflin | White Tip Oolong, total tea apoapolix averted |
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22:39.26 | wytrzeszcz | what project is best for "beginers"? im don't write so much code , mosty for universe |
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22:40.02 | carols | wytrzeszcz: all the projects on the respective mentoring organizationâs ideas list are listed by difficulty level |
22:40.29 | carols | so youâd find the org you want to work with and then you can decide the project you think youâre best suited for from there |
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22:42.07 | wytrzeszcz | easy on top and hard on bottom yes? |
22:42.20 | carols | wytrzeszcz: depends on how the organization has organized it |
22:42.27 | wytrzeszcz | ok |
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22:46.45 | wytrzeszcz | and i need to write only for one Project yes? (if i want do one) |
22:47.04 | carols | wytrzeszcz: if you want to apply to participate, yes, you must submit at least one project proposal. |
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22:47.20 | ismnoiet | @carols i've submitted my files(proof of enrollment ) how can i check if they were accepted or not |
22:47.33 | carols | ismnoiet: did you read the proof of enrollment instructions? |
22:47.50 | ismnoiet | <PROTECTED> |
22:48.08 | carols | ismnoiet: that question is answered on the proof of enrollment instructions. |
22:48.16 | carols | so iâd recommend you read them. |
22:50.53 | wytrzeszcz | what if i application for eg. Debian project and they say im not egounth good? |
22:51.03 | carols | wytrzeszcz: have you spoken to them? |
22:51.24 | wytrzeszcz | no... just thinking now |
22:51.30 | carols | then thatâs the best first step |
22:51.58 | wytrzeszcz | anyone form Debian here ?:) |
22:52.12 | carols | wytrzeszcz: please take it to their communication channels. |
22:52.28 | carols | we donât have organization- or person-specific conversation on this channel |
22:52.41 | valorie | wytrzeszcz: be aware that they use the OFTC server for IRC |
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23:00.18 | wytrzeszcz | ok thanks a lot lets go there |
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23:53.56 | cfoch | hello |
23:54.17 | cfoch | what projects does Google OSPO have? |
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23:54.33 | KushS | Hi :) I am having trouble creating my student profile. I am unable to find the " Read the terms and conditions and acknowledge by selecting the checkbox at the end." checkbox. Any help ? |
23:54.40 | dfighter | cfoch, none |
23:54.51 | dfighter | cfoch, you go to them with your advisor and project idea |
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23:55.13 | olly | cfoch: read the FAQ entry about it, but it's probably not the org you want |
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23:55.53 | cfoch | olly, dfighter: I was thinking it was related to products as Google Drive for example |
23:56.01 | olly | no |
23:56.07 | dfighter | no |
23:56.09 | olly | for a start, google drive isn't open source |
23:58.20 | cfoch | So in Google OSPO, I *start* my own project? |
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