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00:00.32 | dfighter | cfoch, the FAQ actually explains it, please read it |
00:00.41 | dfighter | why should we reiterate when it's written down.. |
00:00.53 | valorie | at this late date, cfoch, probably not |
00:01.15 | olly | !ospo | cfoch |
00:01.15 | gsocbot | cfoch: "ospo" is http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#no_org |
00:01.18 | olly | hmm |
00:01.20 | olly | 2012 |
00:01.32 | olly | !forget ospo |
00:01.33 | gsocbot | olly: The operation succeeded. |
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00:01.58 | cfoch | thanks |
00:02.24 | olly | !learn ospo is http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#16._What_if_there_is_no_organization |
00:02.24 | gsocbot | olly: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
00:02.29 | olly | !learn ospo as http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#16._What_if_there_is_no_organization |
00:02.29 | gsocbot | olly: "ospo" is http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#16._What_if_there_is_no_organization |
00:02.50 | olly | !learn ospo as https://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#16._What_if_there_is_no_organization |
00:02.50 | gsocbot | olly: "ospo" is (#1) http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#16._What_if_there_is_no_organization, or (#2) https://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#16._What_if_there_is_no_organization |
00:02.54 | olly | !forget ospo 1 |
00:02.54 | gsocbot | olly: "ospo" is https://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#16._What_if_there_is_no_organization |
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00:45.16 | Seun | When are midterm evaluations? |
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00:46.01 | meflin | it is on the timeline |
00:46.05 | meflin | why? |
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00:47.37 | Seun | For planning milestones, where is the more in-depth timeline? The homepage only shows the basic breakdown. |
00:47.53 | meflin | the time line on the home page is the timeline |
00:48.02 | meflin | start-midterm-fina |
00:49.07 | Seun | ok nvm thx |
00:50.18 | meflin | for more advice talk to your org |
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01:21.57 | olly | Seun meflin: https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015 is the detailed timeline, the "slices of a ring" timeline graphic on the homepage isn't as detailed |
01:24.16 | Seun | after August 21, can we still work on the project? |
01:24.29 | olly | of course |
01:25.00 | olly | the evaluation for gsoc purposes is only up until then though |
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01:25.14 | olly | "pencils down" isn't really a good term for it |
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01:26.10 | olly | you also shouldn't only start writing tests on 17th, as the timeline seems to suggest |
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01:49.37 | Seun | How do I get a mentor? |
01:50.20 | DaSpirit | The organization chooses one for you. |
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03:37.13 | Edes | Can I apply to multiple organizations and then ditch one if I can't work on more than one project at a time? |
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03:57.21 | cfoch | Edes: I think you have to choose *one* project. You cannot work on more than one project. |
03:57.24 | cfoch | But I am not sure. |
03:57.41 | Retroid | You can apply to more than one though |
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04:02.32 | Edes | oh that's great then |
04:02.50 | Edes | I didn't want to get chosen for multiples or something and then end up having to work full time on both of them |
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04:11.24 | olly | Edes: just note that it may not be your choice which project you get |
04:11.59 | olly | if you have a preference, tell at least one of the orgs you apply to, but it still may not be followed |
04:12.06 | Edes | alright |
04:12.19 | Edes | to be honest I want to work first, and then work on something I like second |
04:13.53 | olly | you're going to be spending 3 months full time on it (plus some time before at least) so I'd pick something you'll enjoy doing |
04:13.53 | dumindux | olly: that mean if we havent told the preference first we might not get a chance to choose the project we like after getting selected to multiple organizations? |
04:14.09 | olly | there's enough orgs doing enough different things you should find something |
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04:14.34 | olly | dumindux: you may never even know you were |
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04:14.57 | olly | it's a difficult area for the orgs as google tell us not to discuss acceptance with students before the announcement |
04:15.18 | olly | and asking them about preferences for orgs is kind of crossing that line |
04:15.44 | olly | in practice orgs often do ask, but it's easier for us if we know up front |
04:17.28 | dumindux | if the student does not tell and if he is selected for two orgs, then what will happen? |
04:17.44 | olly | the org admins discuss and pick |
04:17.52 | olly | if they can't agree, carols will decide |
04:17.58 | Retroid | Unless you are tight on money, I would only apply to things that interest you, but maybe thats a bad way to look at things |
04:17.59 | olly | pretty much at random |
04:18.32 | olly | i reckon you're more likely to get a project you're actually interested it |
04:18.34 | olly | *in |
04:18.41 | olly | it shows in the proposal and discussions with the org |
04:18.53 | Retroid | yeah, I'm only applying for one project but I'll be working on it regardless of if I get selected |
04:19.24 | Retroid | what do you mean discussion with the org? Is there an interview? |
04:19.28 | olly | but as for why you may not get your choice of multiple project - for example, if you're the only student one org wanted to accept, while the other has more good students than they can accept, it's more sensible to let the first org take you |
04:19.30 | dumindux | hm great!. |
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04:19.45 | olly | some orgs hold formal interviews |
04:19.59 | olly | many expect to have discussed projects with students, on IRC or in comments |
04:20.01 | Retroid | ahh, I guess the one I am applying for does not |
04:20.13 | olly | it's relatively rare I think |
04:20.23 | olly | we've done it before, but it takes a lot of time |
04:20.29 | Retroid | Yeah, mine has a mailing list, but it is really cluttered at this point, full of people saying the same thing over and over |
04:20.58 | Retroid | Not many replies |
04:21.15 | Retroid | Although, I have never used a mailing list before, so I am probably doing something wrong |
04:21.21 | olly | is it mostly students asking very generic questions (or non-questions)? |
04:21.33 | Retroid | non-questions, and the occasional question about building |
04:21.40 | olly | that seems to be getting more common each year sadly |
04:21.44 | Retroid | Basically people saying where they are from and that they are interested in the project |
04:22.11 | Retroid | I honestly don't think I'll get selected, just because I found out about this late, but at least it introduced me to something I think I could contribute to |
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04:23.12 | Retroid | Well, not just because I found out about this late, I am also still learning and have never contributed before |
04:23.24 | olly | most students haven't |
04:24.03 | Retroid | yeah, but I am sure they will pick someone that has, my only luck is that everyone is on the same playing field and I can somehow stick out |
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04:24.55 | Retroid | but unless I'm mistaken, all this program does is give payment to people who complete it and a mentoring system? |
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04:44.08 | ExoticCarMan | is there a general template for a proposal listed anywhere? |
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04:45.11 | olly | ExoticCarMan: orgs generally have their own |
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04:46.05 | sgulati | Hey...the registration form has a field name "major"...do we have to fill the major project we are doing in our academics? |
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04:46.54 | olly | ExoticCarMan: if not, see https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#5._What_should_a_student_proposal_look |
04:47.18 | ExoticCarMan | sgulati: Your major at the university. |
04:47.24 | olly | sgulati: it means http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_%28academic%29 |
04:48.20 | ExoticCarMan | olly: thanks. I doesn't look like this specific org has an outline to the "your project proposal" part |
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04:48.38 | olly | have you asked them? |
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06:00.50 | eklavya1 | Can a proposal be edited after submitting it? |
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06:10.35 | valorie | yes, up to the deadline |
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06:14.04 | eklavya1 | Thanks valorie. |
06:14.39 | valorie | you're welcome |
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07:39.48 | gsoc335 | hello does mentioning if you are submitting another proposal affect your chances? |
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07:45.17 | NikolaiToryzin | That's up to the org |
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07:52.19 | |Kev| | gsoc335: I imagine that most orgs would just take it as par for the course. We know students apply to multiple places, and saying so would just let us plan for possibilities, rather than reducing someone's chance. I can't promise, though. |
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07:53.12 | gsoc335 | but simply not mentioning it is not bad, right? given that the org doesnt have a set proposal template |
07:53.26 | |Kev| | Equally, whether students apply to other orgs is something we ask. If a student said 'no', and we found out they were lying, I'd not select the student on that basis. |
07:53.46 | |Kev| | gsoc335: If they don't ask, I don't see a reason to mention it unless you want to. |
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07:54.13 | gsoc335 | okay, thanks! |
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09:15.35 | coolsounak101 | Hi |
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09:21.14 | canis | hi does KDE have any specific proposal template? Also are there any questions that KDE asks a student ? |
09:22.09 | kblin | canis: shouldn't melange display the template? |
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09:22.35 | canis | kblin: melange doesn't display any template |
09:22.35 | kblin | valorie or Nightrose might know more as well, not sure if either of them is online right now, though |
09:22.48 | canis | kblin: are you from KDE? |
09:23.08 | kblin | nope, I haven't even used KDE since whenever KDE4 was released :) |
09:23.46 | canis | kblin: oh ok. There is nothing specific on melange. I just selected my org as KDE and got the melange editor |
09:23.56 | SeunBuntu | the gsoc I'm intrested in has a py library with buggy examples, is fixing them basically the same as other bug fixes? |
09:24.00 | canis | so I just wanted to make sure if I am missing out on something |
09:24.33 | canis | I don't want to find out later that KDE had some questions that were required to be answered or something |
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09:25.22 | kblin | SeunBuntu: ask your mentoring org? |
09:25.29 | Nightrose | canis: hey |
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09:25.55 | Nightrose | canis: if you join #kde-soc then there is a link to successful past proposals in the topic |
09:26.06 | Nightrose | you can use those for example as a guide for your proposal |
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09:26.31 | Nightrose | your mentor might also want you to fix a small bug or something. best reach out to him/her for that |
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09:26.58 | canis | ok thanks Nightrose |
09:27.13 | Nightrose | you're welcome |
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09:28.59 | ExoticCarMan | How bad is a week off during gsoc? |
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09:29.43 | gevaerts | ExoticCarMan: usually not very, if it's planned or properly discussed in advancde |
09:30.14 | ExoticCarMan | gevaerts: thanks. I got worried reading over one organization's gsoc that I'd fall too far behind |
09:30.34 | ExoticCarMan | one org's page |
09:30.51 | olly | it's up to the org, so ask them not us |
09:31.02 | gevaerts | ExoticCarMan: discuss it with your mentor, if you know it already mention it in your proposal. I'd expect most orgs to be fine with it then |
09:31.21 | ExoticCarMan | thanks, will do |
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10:21.17 | salmanj | Hello I need urgent help. |
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10:53.02 | coolsounak101 | Hi, I am willing to work with Beagleboard.org in PRU applications domain. I have already posted my proposal in the beagle-gsoc irc. Kindly review my proposal and suggest how to proceed |
10:54.21 | olly | coolsounak101: this is a general channel - you need to talk to the beagleboard people |
10:54.25 | gevaerts | coolsounak101: the only thing we're going to do here is redirect you back to beagleboard |
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10:55.31 | coolsounak101 | ok no prob.... |
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11:52.07 | arav93 | How long does it take to know if my enrolment form is accepted or not? |
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11:54.33 | kagimub | hi. hope all is well. When does the actual coding begin for the program? |
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11:59.27 | Antoniogra7 | both questions can be answered if you look at the events timeline in gsoc webpage |
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12:01.59 | kagimub | ok thank you. let me check it out |
12:04.08 | kagimub | thank you. I have read it |
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12:13.17 | coder_dz | Hello everybody, I want to know how to apply to a project? Let's say, I have ideas to add to Drupal, then where should I apply? On Google's website or to Drupal's itself? |
12:13.59 | gevaerts | coder_dz: you discuss the ideas with the drupal people and you formally apply on the melange website |
12:13.59 | Niharika | coder_dz: You should discuss the idea with Drupal folks and then apply on Melange. |
12:14.07 | gevaerts | !faq | coder_dz |
12:14.08 | gsocbot | coder_dz: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page |
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12:14.14 | gevaerts | !studentguide | coder_dz |
12:14.15 | gsocbot | coder_dz: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ or if that site is down https://web.archive.org/web/20150314235727/http://flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/ |
12:14.28 | coder_dz | Thanks guys! Really great! |
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15:50.47 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
15:51.12 | swook | It's comforting to know that hasn't changed over the years |
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16:17.22 | quim | hi |
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16:18.52 | carols | hi quim |
16:20.51 | jkridner | olly: if you are wondering where to send people looking for BeagleBoard.org, you can send them to #beagle-gsoc |
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16:24.14 | quim | carols: can't I enroll to gsoc without involving my highschool? |
16:24.34 | carols | quim: um, to participate in gsoc you must be an accepted or enrolled university student |
16:24.52 | carols | but you donât âinvolveâ the school, regardless, itâs between you and the mentoring organization |
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16:30.47 | quim | carols: there's a minimum age or semthing like that? I'm not from the US and I don't know if university level there is the same as here |
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16:31.39 | suyash | Hi, I just had a simple question to ask. How are conflicts resolved if a student gets selected for 2 orgs ? |
16:31.55 | gevaerts | !faq | quim |
16:31.55 | gsocbot | quim: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page |
16:31.59 | gevaerts | !studentguide | quim |
16:31.59 | gsocbot | quim: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ or if that site is down https://web.archive.org/web/20150314235727/http://flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/ |
16:32.09 | gevaerts | Those should answer most of your questions |
16:32.34 | gevaerts | suyash: the org admins talk to each other to resolve the conflict. The *may* talk to the student too |
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16:33.34 | gevaerts | !eligible | quim |
16:33.35 | gsocbot | quim: "eligible" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#1._Are_there_any_age_restrictions_on |
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16:33.43 | gevaerts | That's the specific link |
16:33.55 | quim | gevaerts: carols thanks for the links! |
16:34.06 | gevaerts | But read the rest too. It's full of useful information :) |
16:34.14 | carols | yw |
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17:23.02 | doovd | Hi I've just uploaded my proof of student status |
17:23.10 | carols | doovd: great |
17:23.13 | doovd | Would it be possible to know when it'll be reviewd as the deadline is close? |
17:23.16 | doovd | *reviewed |
17:23.26 | carols | doovd: did you read the proof of enrollment instructions? |
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17:24.28 | KalmaneCKN | Hello guys.. I have a small doubt.. I alredy sent a proposal to an organization.. Can i edit this proposal evev after the application deadline is over?? |
17:24.32 | doovd | I did indeed and I am aware it said that asking about it on IRC is unnecessary (sorry), I was just worried if my proof is sufficient or not |
17:24.57 | carols | KalmaneCKN: only if your organization chooses to allow it. but no, not by default |
17:25.07 | carols | doovd: youâll be contacted if we need another form from you |
17:25.54 | doovd | Brilliant, thank you! |
17:26.00 | KalmaneCKN | Oh..ok..Thank you.. |
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17:40.18 | ketul | hello as a student I want to ask if I upload two proposals in different orgs, whether all the org members are able to watch it or the particular org's member to who I applied? |
17:40.40 | carols | ketul: only the org to which you applied can see the application for their org |
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17:42.01 | ketul | ok |
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17:56.55 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
17:57.40 | meflin | mmm tea thanks |
17:57.44 | carols | yw meflin |
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18:22.05 | shipre | hello say If my application get selected in 2 orgs . Then what will be the next? |
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18:22.21 | meflin | the orgs will conference and choose |
18:22.28 | carols | shipre: theyâll decide amongst them who accepts you |
18:22.53 | shipre | student will have no choice? |
18:22.57 | carols | nope |
18:23.08 | carols | so please donât apply for any org you donât want to be accepted by |
18:23.30 | shipre | ok |
18:23.38 | shipre | but want to be more clear. |
18:23.45 | carols | sure, about what? |
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18:24.20 | shipre | if one is selected in both. then is there any possibility of not getting selected in none? |
18:24.29 | carols | shipre: no |
18:24.41 | carols | if youâre not accepted, thatâs because no one accepted you |
18:24.47 | carols | not because more than one org accepted you |
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18:26.46 | shipre | ok so in first phase org will accept the student without knowing the student's application in others. So if he gets selected in both then they will do conference and decide. So there will be no chance of not getting selected,. Am I right carols? |
18:27.15 | |Kev| | Only scenario I could see would be that orgs found out there was a conflict, the student had said they were only applying to one org, and neither wanted them any more because of the lie. |
18:27.25 | carols | shipre: correct |
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18:28.20 | shipre | kev didn't get |
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18:29.01 | shipre | |Kev| |
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18:29.21 | meflin | AFAIK that case has never happened |
18:29.33 | |Kev| | meflin: I didn't claim it had. |
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18:29.40 | carols | really, you need to focus on making one good application and getting selected by one org |
18:29.47 | carols | thatâs the thing that you need to care about |
18:29.54 | carols | we donât get that many duplicates each year. |
18:30.01 | carols | we donât accept a lot of students, though |
18:30.02 | Corey84 | shipre, you can apply to many orgs if there comes a conflict gsoc will notify YOU and the orgs and it will be ironed out |
18:30.20 | carols | Corey84: thatâs not true |
18:30.23 | |Kev| | Is that true? I didn't think melange notified the student. |
18:30.29 | carols | we donât notify students if theyâre in a duplicate situation |
18:30.51 | carols | Corey84: please make sure you have your info correct in the future before you tell folks things |
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18:31.39 | shipre | carols ya that i know but I am willing to participate in the orgs that have almost same domain. So I would trying to apply in 2 orgs |
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18:31.49 | carols | shipre: great, good luck! |
18:32.04 | shipre | thanks man. nice time with u |
18:32.11 | carols | itâs maâam |
18:32.13 | carols | youâre welcome |
18:32.13 | |Kev| | shipre: Then you don't need to worry about conflicts. As long as you want to participate with any org you apply to, you're golden. |
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18:33.07 | naveenvalecha | My college period is finished by the end of this june, but I did not find any case regarding the same on the gsoc melange.So Am I eligible for same ? |
18:33.21 | carols | naveenvalecha: thatâs answered in the faqs. |
18:34.14 | suyash | carols: it would actually be more comfortable to know that there is "exactly" this particular aspect that comes into play, when resolving a conflict, that there is exactly a particular thing that will matter when resolving it |
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18:34.29 | carols | suyash: iâm not sure what you mean, sorry |
18:34.42 | meflin | there is no exactly |
18:35.00 | meflin | its not something students need to be concerned about |
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18:35.57 | naveenvalecha | carols: Not found the answer for the above question. http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#8._I_graduate_in_the_middle_of_the |
18:36.10 | naveenvalecha | carols: need help |
18:36.11 | carols | naveenvalecha: not found? or did find? |
18:36.20 | carols | naveenvalecha: iâm not sure what you need help with? |
18:36.22 | |Kev| | naveenvalecha: You pasted exactly the answer to your question! |
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18:38.13 | gedare | naveenvalecha: you can participate if you meet the other req'ts. most european students have a similar issue as you. |
18:38.37 | suyash | meflin: exactly my point, but here's the thing, students like me applying to multiple orgs do have a preference order, and there are multiple things that can happen, for example what if my first preference org doesn't get enough slots, or the fact that I actually like both the projects, and would be willing to work on either of them, but would still prefer |
18:38.37 | suyash | working on one over the other |
18:38.50 | naveenvalecha | gedare: I have enrolled in 2011 and my college is finished by the end of june 2014 and after that I'm gonna join some company after few months.So in this case did not get any problem later ? |
18:39.15 | meflin | suyash: do not apply to orgs you do not want to work with .. done |
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18:39.41 | gedare | naveenvalecha: sure, http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#8._I_graduate_in_the_middle_of_the is pretty clear i think. |
18:39.51 | sttaylor | suyash: rarely do students get accepted by multiple orgs, it really isnât an issue you should worry too much about |
18:40.06 | |Kev| | naveenvalecha: June 201*4*? |
18:40.15 | gedare | good point about the year though. |
18:40.19 | naveenvalecha | *2015 |
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18:40.27 | naveenvalecha | gedare: Thanks! |
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18:42.22 | suyash | just a final question, this is my first time, and I am not really familiar with the process, but when the results come out, will a student be notified of *every* org he was selected for, or just the one assigned to him |
18:42.49 | meflin | just the one |
18:43.17 | suyash | thanks, cheers ! |
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18:45.11 | gevaerts | Technically you're never selected for more than one org |
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18:59.12 | Diego89 | Does the document college tuition this year is valid in the enrollment form? |
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19:00.28 | meflin | Diego89: read the FAQ its in there ... I think its enrollment not tuition .. could be wrong tho :) |
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19:01.29 | Bennz__ | I have a question. |
19:01.38 | carols | Bennz__: sure, weâll try to help if we can |
19:01.45 | Diego89 | meflin: I know, but in Spain my student card haven't the year of the course and we don't have transcript |
19:03.09 | Bennz__ | I was trying to add image to my proposal however I could not load an image from the C drive. How do you add images to your proposal with google Text box? |
19:03.24 | carols | Bennz__: you canât, youâd need to just make a url |
19:04.11 | aalekhn_ | Bennz__: there are many online services for help, for instance use imgur. |
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19:04.38 | meflin | Diego89: did you read the faq about this? |
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19:04.42 | Diego89 | Also I don't have a letter from my college this year because I was admitted in 2013 |
19:04.53 | carols | Diego89: did you read the instruction sheet? |
19:04.59 | Bennz__ | how do you make a url if you have a diagram or lets say a pipeline to your proposal? |
19:05.18 | carols | Bennz__: just type in the URL, itâs a WYSIWYG editor |
19:05.53 | Diego89 | Yes, but I can only show that I am studying in college up the enrolled |
19:06.11 | carols | Diego89: did you read the whole thing? |
19:06.50 | carols | Diego89: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/proofofenrollment âRather than ask questions on the mailing list or in IRC about whether or not the document you have is acceptable as proof of enrollment, simply submit the document to Melange. If it is not what we need, we will request an alternate document from you. If you do not receive an email request from us for a new document you can assume what you |
19:06.51 | carols | submitted is fine.â |
19:06.51 | Diego89 | @carols: I have read this URL https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/proofofenrollment |
19:07.16 | Bennz__ | The url that I have is C drive: C:\\program file\my\proposal.doc will this work |
19:07.34 | carols | Bennz__: no, that wonât work |
19:07.39 | carols | youâll need to do more research on this |
19:07.52 | geekspark | in what format are we supposed to submit our proposal..?? |
19:08.10 | carols | geekspark: in the format of the text box for the proposal. |
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19:09.08 | Bennz__ | The images I have is .jpg files. Do I need to add them to Internet like facebook? |
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19:09.16 | Diego89 | carols: thank you and sorry. I just wanted to make sure it was valid. |
19:09.27 | geekspark | I mean pdf or word file...? |
19:09.39 | gedare | Bennz__: you need to upload the image to a file or image hosting service and provide the link to the file in your proposal. |
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19:10.11 | gedare | Bennz__: yes, on the internet |
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19:11.52 | gevaerts | geekspark: the proposal ends up as html with some restrictions |
19:12.33 | geekspark | what restrictions..? |
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19:13.13 | gevaerts | I don't know the details. Things like no script tags at least, maybe more |
19:13.23 | gevaerts | IIRC some style attributes might not work |
19:15.21 | Bennz__ | How can I load images from amazon account. Do they have to have a public access enabled to url it into GSoc site? |
19:15.58 | carols | Bennz__: how about this. why not ask your potential mentoring organization what theyâd like you to do? |
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19:16.12 | gevaerts | Bennz__: just try... |
19:16.15 | carols | they can give you the instructions on what they want. |
19:16.32 | gevaerts | You can't expect people here to know the details of all possible image hosters on the net |
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19:17.31 | Bennz__ | This question was related to GSoC platform they might not be experts here. |
19:17.59 | carols | Bennz__: they might not be, but you might as well try |
19:18.18 | Bennz__ | okay |
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19:25.52 | geekspark | can we include images in our proposal..? |
19:26.17 | meflin | no but you can link to them |
19:26.17 | carols | geekspark: no, only urls |
19:26.34 | geekspark | carlos:thnx :) |
19:26.41 | gedare | asciiart might work. |
19:26.51 | geekspark | carols"thnx:) |
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19:36.43 | formap | yes |
19:36.59 | sevteen | Ok, just testing (new to irc) |
19:37.12 | formap | okay :) |
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20:01.05 | bhash90 | Hi |
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20:01.40 | meflin | hi |
20:02.35 | carols | did you have a question bhash90, or just saying hello? |
20:03.06 | bhash90 | is it possible (or how often) a good, detailed proposal miss GSoC due to lack of a mentor for particular project |
20:03.19 | meflin | rare |
20:03.29 | meflin | if it is good |
20:03.34 | carols | bhash90: yes, itâs possible. |
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20:03.39 | carols | but itâs not likely. |
20:05.11 | bhash90 | most of the active community members in the organization I'm working are unlikely to appoint as mentors :( |
20:05.39 | carols | bhash90: well, we canât force people to mentor who donât want to |
20:05.41 | carols | nor should we |
20:06.05 | meflin | be unconcerned and be excellent |
20:06.47 | bhash90 | :) |
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20:07.48 | gedare | it would definitely happen if a better, more detailed proposal exists with a mentor |
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20:08.12 | gedare | but, if you make a great proposal, the community will probably step up for you |
20:09.05 | gedare | there are almost always more good projects than mentors, unfortunately. that's just the way of open source |
20:09.11 | gevaerts | I'd expect orgs to have mentors in mind for all of the ideas they list, which would mean that at worst you're competing against other students |
20:09.25 | gevaerts | Which you are anyway :) |
20:09.36 | gedare | +1 gevaerts |
20:09.49 | gedare | or maybe +2. |
20:10.23 | vin-ivar | and, well, slots |
20:10.32 | gevaerts | Of course, if you proposed your own idea, not finding a suitable mentor suddenly becomes more realistic |
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20:11.44 | bhash90 | it is more a proposal made by me based on a discussion we had |
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20:11.59 | gedare | that's risky, if you don't enlist a mentor |
20:13.03 | bhash90 | not listed in idea page. But community really like that idea |
20:13.17 | carols | bhash90: thatâs a great conversation to have with the org |
20:13.39 | carols | theyâre the ones who will decide if a mentor gets assigned |
20:13.42 | carols | itâs all up to them |
20:13.55 | gedare | be convincing. :) |
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20:14.56 | bhash90 | thanks for the advice |
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20:18.02 | bhash90 | is it possible for me to choose Google Open Source Program Office as the second option for the project? |
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20:18.26 | carols | bhash90: is this a research project under the supervision of your university advisor? |
20:18.45 | bhash90 | project involve some research and I can find a mentor from uni |
20:19.04 | carols | bhash90: iâd suggest you read over the FAQs for the OSPO umbrella. |
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20:27.06 | dargor0 | hi, a quick question: can I mentor a project from a different sub-org I registered? I guess yes... am I right? |
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20:27.40 | meflin | depends on the umbrella you would need to ask them |
20:28.00 | dargor0 | of course, I'd ask permission first :) |
20:28.14 | meflin | this is first so you did not |
20:28.33 | meflin | what umbrella? |
20:29.31 | dargor0 | ah, sorry, I meant to ask this in python-gsoc :p |
20:29.43 | meflin | then you should |
20:29.48 | dargor0 | yeah, I'm from Python umbrella |
20:29.59 | meflin | so ask there |
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20:32.08 | Mandeep_Singh | hi, My question is : What if someone copies a part of my proposal and he submits it before me? :) |
20:32.56 | meflin | how can that even happen? |
20:33.09 | carols | what meflin said |
20:33.24 | Mandeep_Singh | Because I may haven't completed mine yet :P |
20:33.36 | carols | Mandeep_Singh: but how would someone see it to copy it? |
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20:35.01 | Mandeep_Singh | just in case |
20:35.27 | carols | iâm not sure whatâs âjust in caseâ this isnât something i can see happening, so iâm not sure what youâre preparing for |
20:35.57 | downey | anyone for fresh tea? |
20:36.02 | carols | downey: yes please! |
20:36.13 | carols | is actually having chinese tea and cookies in real life too :-) |
20:36.16 | meflin | I could use some tea |
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20:36.24 | carols | awww |
20:36.28 | carols | lolcookie left |
20:36.30 | carols | just before the tea |
20:36.32 | downey | http://s.quickmeme.com/img/95/95c6d2e44bc716d5f5aa106de2574371d5b349842efdb2468a1d2eb9d4ab9a67.jpg |
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20:42.16 | downey | ponders baking "LOL" cookies |
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20:42.35 | carols | downey: oh, please do :-) |
20:42.39 | carols | and serve them in here |
20:42.59 | downey | something like http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/339/9/b/__lol___cookies_by_sagethemouse-d34ai9p.jpg |
20:43.07 | carols | yes |
20:43.18 | downey | my skill level might be up to something like that |
20:44.00 | meflin | bah bake a sugar cookies and pipe frosting on it with LOL |
20:44.12 | meflin | I wonder if I can get those on a plane .... |
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20:54.24 | soumi | whts happening here? |
20:54.36 | soumi | lol cookies and stuff? :P |
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20:56.13 | carols | soumi: you can help yourself to some tea as well if youâd like. |
20:56.31 | meflin | and some nice coffee |
20:56.49 | meflin | we also have chocolate croissants |
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21:05.55 | soumi | There something like a GSOC reunion i guess |
21:06.14 | soumi | :P we'd have it there |
21:06.16 | soumi | :P |
21:08.09 | sitic | I can update a proposal after I've submitted it, correct? |
21:08.40 | carols | sitic: until the deadline |
21:08.48 | sitic | thanks :-) |
21:09.01 | carols | yw |
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21:10.23 | meflin | soumi: ? |
21:10.55 | soumi | meflin: nuffin man, just let it go |
21:11.02 | meflin | gone |
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21:38.37 | soumi | Who is the youngest in here? |
21:38.42 | soumi | :) JFF |
21:39.05 | meflin | off topic |
21:39.24 | carols | soumi: yes, please take that to the off topic channel |
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22:30.40 | gangil1 | hi, how should I format the text in the editor so that there are line breaks? I am pasting my proposal from a gist to the editor and it has quite a few long single lines |
22:30.46 | gangil1 | the preview isnt helping |
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22:31.29 | carols | gangil1: have you tried ediitng the html? |
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22:32.32 | gangil1 | carols: I can try that, but I was just wondering if there is a easier way. |
22:32.43 | carols | gangil1: maybe there is, thatâs just my suggestion. |
22:32.48 | carols | maybe other folks here have other ideas. |
22:33.01 | gangil1 | has a feature request: Import proposals from github or support markdown editor |
22:33.15 | gangil1 | /s/github/gist |
22:33.39 | carols | gangil1: for feature requests in melange, please file a bug. |
22:33.49 | carols | also, melange is open source, so youâre also welcome to submit a patch. |
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22:42.31 | |Kev| | Submitting patches for open source projects? It'll never take off. |
22:43.11 | carols | |Kev|: i know. itâs really a hope i maintain against all other evidence to the contrary. |
22:43.30 | gedare | the world needs dreamers. |
22:43.53 | |Kev| | Google should put some of its money into encourage it. Maybe catch people while they're young? |
22:43.59 | |Kev| | *encouraging |
22:43.59 | carols | |Kev|: huh |
22:44.05 | carols | that sounds like an interesting idea. |
22:44.12 | carols | i should talk to some folks. |
22:44.15 | |Kev| | Please. |
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22:44.20 | carols | run it up the flagpole as it were. |
22:44.55 | gevaerts | The thing is of course that melange is a bit of a niche app |
22:45.16 | carols | gevaerts: sure is, which is why itâs in the state itâs in |
22:45.17 | |Kev| | gevaerts: Yes, but then a number of its users are really quite motivated by the thing they're using it for, so ... |
22:46.00 | gevaerts | |Kev|: most of them only use it when they have a looming deadline on something else... |
22:46.07 | |Kev| | Point. |
22:46.24 | carols | very good point. |
22:47.18 | gevaerts | Which is of course why so many applications come in near the deadline. Students are working on melange, *nearly* know how to fix the issue they're working on, and then suddenly remember their gsoc proposal |
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22:56.32 | gangil1 | found a workaround http://pytest-commit.git.net/sympy/msg10670.html |
22:58.33 | andreimarius | If I will be Google Intern this summer, am I eligible to be GSoC mentor? |
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23:02.00 | valorie | andreimarius: that is up to the org |
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23:02.16 | andreimarius | valorie: thanks |
23:02.19 | valorie | in KDE at least, we want established community members as mentors |
23:02.34 | valorie | or at least well-known to us |
23:02.48 | valorie | but I don't think that is true everywhere |
23:05.28 | Slurpee | valorie, but there is no rule again Google staff/interns participating as a mentor? |
23:05.30 | gedare | you can't be both thhe same summer. |
23:05.38 | gedare | oh, nevermind. :0 |
23:05.43 | gedare | i misread the question! |
23:06.13 | valorie | Slurpee: not to my knowledge |
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23:30.49 | travs_ | Hi there, I have a question about enrolment proof that is not answered in the FAQ, nor the manual. Is someone able to help me? |
23:31.29 | dfighter | ask the question |
23:31.34 | dfighter | maybe we can help, maybe we can't |
23:31.44 | dfighter | we'll never know, unless you ask ;) |
23:33.28 | travs_ | Haha ok. I am accepted into my university, but through some red tape I'm not able to get proof of enrolment by March 27th, though I will be accepted before the April 27th deadline. I have my proposals complete, but am not able to submit them until I have uploaded enrolment proof |
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23:34.07 | travs_ | Is there any way to get my proposals up and defer the proof of enrolment until shortly after the March 27 proposal deadline? |
23:34.24 | dfighter | no extensions |
23:34.52 | dfighter | that's for sure |
23:34.54 | dfighter | as for the rest |
23:35.00 | dfighter | you should mail Carol |
23:35.07 | dfighter | I'm sure she can help |
23:35.18 | travs_ | Ok, awesome. What's her email? |
23:35.19 | chick | Hi how can a submit a second proposal on melange? I cant find a link on dashboard to upload a second proposal |
23:35.40 | dfighter | in earlier years we didn't need to submit the proof right away |
23:35.51 | dfighter | so it was probably changed because many people forgot about it |
23:36.00 | travs_ | Makes sense |
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23:36.30 | travs_ | what's carol's email? |
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23:36.54 | dfighter | carols@google.com |
23:37.19 | gsoc_man | madrazr: How long are we allowed to edit our proposals? ( Can I edit my proposal after 27th? ) |
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23:37.35 | dfighter | gsoc_man, only if the org allows it |
23:37.42 | travs_ | great, thanks dfighter |
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23:37.52 | dfighter | chick, the same way you submitted the first one |
23:38.51 | gsoc_man | dfighter: Thanks! does that mean they have an option to make my proposal editable? If so till when will I be allowed to edit? |
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23:39.11 | chick | dfighter, Thanks |
23:39.32 | dfighter | gsoc_man, that really depends on them |
23:39.40 | gsoc_man | dfighter: thanks |
23:39.42 | gsoc_man | :) |
23:39.44 | dfighter | usually they don't allow it |
23:39.48 | dfighter | so don't count on it |
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23:40.12 | gsoc_man | dfighter: Ah... that was why I asked... that was really helpful thanks! |
23:40.19 | dfighter | :) |
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23:40.31 | dfighter | gsoc_man, you really need to ask tho |
23:41.11 | gsoc_man | Yea I just joined my org's irc :D thanks! |
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23:41.36 | gsoc_man | dfighter: If I may ask, are you a student? |
23:41.48 | dfighter | yes to both of the questions |
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23:42.01 | gsoc_man | haha atb :) |
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23:44.17 | dfighter | what's an atb in this context? o.O |
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