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| 00:18.00 | gsocbot | nurupo: "next" is GSoC student applications close on 27 March at 19:00 UTC |
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| 00:46.46 | gsocbot | DaSpirit: "next" is GSoC student applications close on 27 March at 19:00 UTC |
| 00:46.56 | DaSpirit | Is there a countdown clock? |
| 00:47.09 | DaSpirit | Oh, main page of GSoC. |
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| 00:59.33 | davidkron | Hi, anyone here? |
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| 01:00.52 | davidkron | Damnit :( |
| 01:01.20 | davidkron | Anyway i have a strange question |
| 01:01.28 | davidkron | Where does gsoc take place? |
| 01:01.44 | davidkron | I cant find info about it anywhere, or is everything over web? |
| 01:02.02 | kovak | it is over the interent, almost every country with a few exceptions can participate |
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| 01:03.08 | davidkron | Ah okay, yea i saw that and I am totally able to (Sweden) yey! |
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| 02:09.45 | cj_ | Hi Iâm a freshman in college majoring in Computer Science and I want to get more involved with open source over the summer. Would this be a good start for someone that doesnât have much hands on experience but would like to get some? |
| 02:10.01 | decltypeme | Sure |
| 02:10.23 | decltypeme | explore the projects and try finish a good proposal before the deadline |
| 02:10.25 | decltypeme | !next |
| 02:10.26 | gsocbot | decltypeme: "next" is GSoC student applications close on 27 March at 19:00 UTC |
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| 02:12.12 | cj_ | Ok thanks! |
| 02:12.49 | decltypeme | Do not forget to have your proof of enrolement handy because you need it to start a proposal |
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| 02:14.24 | cj_ | Iâve looked over the information on proof of enrolement and some of the projects and they look interested I was just not sure if this would be a good place to start |
| 02:15.07 | decltypeme | great |
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| 02:33.07 | MisterDev | This wil be a long long night |
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| 02:39.44 | andarms | hello |
| 02:39.50 | Corey84 | MisterDev, fear that too |
| 02:39.56 | Corey84 | deadline is what 8am ? |
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| 02:40.05 | andarms | hello, i have a question, is illegal that someone check out the spelling and grammar of my proposal? i am hispanic so i need to someone check if i make any mistake that could misunderstand what i try to say in my proposal. can i to do that? |
| 02:40.09 | Corey84 | 11am UTC i mean |
| 02:40.42 | Corey84 | as in proof reading it? andarms |
| 02:41.26 | dfighter | Corey84, 19:00 UTC is the deadline |
| 02:41.35 | dfighter | 16 hours from now |
| 02:42.49 | andarms | just to check that i am saying the things in the right way |
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| 02:43.11 | Corey84 | thought it was am lol gonna be a loooong final strength i fear |
| 02:43.35 | Corey84 | 1900UTC Friday 27th March 2015 |
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| 02:43.50 | Muffinlicious | andarms I don't see anything wrong with that |
| 02:44.11 | Corey84 | andarms, as far as i know AS long as they aren't modifying the content it should be fine |
| 02:44.27 | Corey84 | context rather |
| 02:45.13 | andarms | Corey84, Muffinlicious. ok thanks |
| 02:45.44 | Corey84 | good luck and make sure you put it in before 1900UTC tomorrow andarms |
| 02:47.03 | MisterDev | Corey84: luckily we have coffe :D |
| 02:47.43 | andarms | Corey84 i already upload an uncheck version of the proposal, just in case :) |
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| 02:48.29 | Corey84 | I prefer my Dr.Pepper for such marathon events |
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| 02:48.50 | Corey84 | gonna stock up on Dp for HACKRU in 3 weeks |
| 02:49.01 | Corey84 | fedora ambassador duty At the hackathon |
| 02:49.17 | dfighter | if it's really as horrible as my gf says, I bet it keeps you alive :D |
| 02:49.21 | dfighter | eh awake even |
| 02:49.52 | Corey84 | dfighter, its best oven cleaner if that says much :P |
| 02:50.48 | dfighter | heheh |
| 02:53.17 | MisterDev | I should not Google "Dr Pepper", i should be productive |
| 02:53.38 | MisterDev | never heard about it, where are you from? |
| 02:54.13 | dfighter | it's an american soft-drink |
| 02:54.17 | Corey84 | ^ |
| 02:54.19 | dfighter | but you can buy it even here in Hungary |
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| 02:54.45 | Corey84 | google'd for you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Pepper |
| 02:55.15 | Corey84 | complete with the ugly nutrition facts |
| 02:55.45 | dfighter | meh |
| 02:55.54 | dfighter | you only start caring about those after your first heart attack |
| 02:55.56 | dfighter | or stroke |
| 02:58.46 | MisterDev | It is not that bad if it can't clean rusty coins |
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| 03:01.03 | Corey84 | you can :P |
| 03:01.18 | Corey84 | we used to use it to clean engines in USMC |
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| 03:09.20 | MisterDev | Ok, so it's sure good to stay awake :D |
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| 04:44.02 | hitesh96db | Hey ! |
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| 05:08.45 | MisterDev | hey |
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| 05:08.54 | Retroid | o/ |
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| 05:09.29 | hitesh96db | Anyone successful in uploading an image on Melange editor XD ? |
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| 05:12.45 | sttaylor_ | you canât upload images- you have to provide a link to your image |
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| 05:17.36 | Corey84 | any fresh coffee around ? :P |
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| 05:22.29 | Guest7078 | i want to know that whether a team can submit a project |
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| 05:23.11 | Guest7078 | Can a Team participate in gsoc |
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| 05:26.47 | valorie | no, one student per project |
| 05:27.30 | valorie | and it must be the student who proposed the project, no one else |
| 05:28.40 | jarie | I am trying to insert an image in my proposal, is there a way we can upload from our computer or via google docs? |
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| 05:29.16 | Corey84 | jarie, via nearly any https:// supported upload site if you provide the links in proposal |
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| 05:30.43 | jarie | Corey84: thanks |
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| 05:31.54 | Corey84 | for any pesky issues join #melange or upload /submit and wait to hear back of issues / workarounds from admins |
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| 05:34.46 | reversiblean | Is it okay to submit a photo of my student id, instead of a scanned copy for the proof of enrollment? |
| 05:36.06 | valorie | a scan is a picture |
| 05:36.36 | valorie | if they find it unacceptable, they will ask for a better copy |
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| 05:38.19 | Corey84 | ^^ |
| 05:38.52 | Corey84 | OR upload the scan to like picpaste/ imgur and share link in your proof info |
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| 06:10.35 | reversiblean | Is today the last day to submit a proposal? |
| 06:10.44 | darnir | Yes. |
| 06:11.20 | thiago | well, not in carols's timezone |
| 06:11.27 | thiago | that's still tomorrow |
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| 06:12.03 | darnir | ^^ Good point. |
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| 06:12.52 | thiago | for 48 minutes, anyway |
| 06:13.20 | tbr | you could just say that it's less than 13h left |
| 06:14.00 | thiago | yup |
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| 06:30.08 | thiagovsk | thiago: |
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| 06:30.38 | bepolite | How many of you guys are planning to drop your applications today |
| 06:30.39 | bepolite | > |
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| 06:36.12 | darnir | Not me. |
| 06:36.33 | darnir | But then I'm not allowed to submit an application anyways |
| 06:36.53 | bongcon | Hello all!I wanted to know whether an applicant can apply for multiple proposals for the same organization!Say I wanted to submit 2 prposals under 2 mentors but for the same org,is it possible? |
| 06:37.20 | thiago | yes |
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| 06:37.27 | thiago | you can apply, but you can only be selected for one |
| 06:38.19 | pandabz | Which organizations are you guys applying to? |
| 06:38.33 | thiago | none |
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| 06:39.37 | bongcon | Ok @thiago U sure about dat?'Cuz I intend 2 submit a secnd proposal for d same org!I don't want 2 get my work go in waste!Thankx anyways for d info! |
| 06:40.24 | pandabz | @bongcon that's what's said in the FAQ |
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| 06:41.35 | bongcon | Yeah I get dat,just verifying guys!Thank ya all |
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| 07:29.51 | canis | I have submitted my proposal, but I wanted to make sure that I am not missing out on anything. |
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| 07:30.05 | canis | So the workflow is just that I need to upload my enrolment proof |
| 07:30.09 | canis | and then submit a proposal |
| 07:30.12 | canis | am i right? |
| 07:30.40 | ExoticCarMan | canis: yes. there should be no delay between uploading your document and being able to submit a proposal |
| 07:30.46 | ExoticCarMan | there wasn't for me, anyways |
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| 07:32.38 | canis | ExoticCarMan: is there anything to be done after this? |
| 07:32.51 | ExoticCarMan | after submitting the proposal? |
| 07:32.56 | canis | yes |
| 07:33.05 | ExoticCarMan | not sure. I haven't gotten that far yet, lol |
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| 07:41.02 | bepolite | CAn someone help me with a sample of his application so I can get some inspiration? |
| 07:41.41 | mink_ | Hello all, have somw query related to eligibility as a student in gsoc |
| 07:42.31 | mink_ | in melange, while creaating profile, its aasking for college details and major |
| 07:43.07 | mink_ | but I dont know if I will be selected for a particular major in a college |
| 07:43.28 | mink_ | but I am sure I will know that before 27th April |
| 07:43.34 | mink_ | What should I do? |
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| 08:07.13 | ExoticCarMan | mink_: have you been accepted into a university? |
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| 08:08.10 | mink_ | yes |
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| 08:08.26 | mink_ | but the major is yet to be selected |
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| 08:09.00 | ExoticCarMan | I'm just a student myself, but I'd just put down the major you applied for |
| 08:09.10 | ExoticCarMan | if you're undecided, you can say Undecided |
| 08:09.23 | ExoticCarMan | or Undecided Enginerring, Undecided Arts and Sciences, etc |
| 08:09.30 | mink_ | oh okay |
| 08:09.33 | mink_ | thanks |
| 08:10.06 | ExoticCarMan | especially if you know the school within the college you've been accepted to |
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| 08:10.58 | ExoticCarMan | yeah, they mention you don't have to be CS, so you should be good |
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| 08:49.45 | qw | Hey, if I need to make a certain change in my proposal after the today's deadline, is there any facility to do that? |
| 08:50.31 | sahil | Hi qw, the organisation that you are applying in can give the option to edit your proposal after the deadline. |
| 08:50.49 | sahil | You have to talk to them. |
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| 08:51.07 | gevaerts | You can always post comments |
| 08:51.24 | |Kev| | qw: You should assume that you won't have that facility. |
| 08:51.29 | |Kev| | qw: And then if you get it, it's a bonus. |
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| 08:51.57 | |Kev| | But yes, you can always post comments - although orgs might not take into account comments made after the application deadline, if they don't want to. |
| 08:51.57 | bePolite | If I have my GSOC proposal online on github, How do I link it in melange |
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| 08:52.11 | qw | and what if I am applying under Google Open Source Office. there I am not applying under any open source org |
| 08:52.14 | |Kev| | bePolite: If your org has asked you to do that, speak to your org. It's not usual. |
| 08:52.17 | qw | thanks Kev |
| 08:52.31 | qw | thanks sahil |
| 08:52.32 | bePolite | Will I see need to fill in the **content** and *abstract* feilds in the melange website |
| 08:52.38 | |Kev| | bePolite: See above. |
| 08:52.54 | bePolite | Thanks |Kev| |
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| 08:53.52 | qw | please let me know that if I am applying under Google Open Source Office. there I am not applying under any open source org, I have an independent mentor and i will be working under him |
| 08:53.58 | qw | then what are my options |
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| 09:52.42 | drktrx | +next |
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| 09:58.57 | gevaerts | !next | drktrx |
| 09:58.58 | gsocbot | drktrx: "next" is GSoC student applications close on 27 March at 19:00 UTC |
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| 09:59.34 | drktrx | thanks! |
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| 10:14.33 | Maesk4 | Hi!! \o |
| 10:14.48 | aerophile | hi maesk4 |
| 10:16.29 | Arihant94 | how to create patch? |
| 10:16.36 | Arihant94 | for intersted organisation? |
| 10:17.31 | aerophile | see the oranisations idea page |
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| 10:18.10 | aerophile | it will usualy have all the details including how to submit patches |
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| 10:21.37 | panna_cotta | Hello, quick question: Do proofs of enrollment need to be submitted until today at 5 pm UTC, or is it possible to submit them later on? |
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| 10:22.54 | gevaerts | panna_cotta: they need to be submitted before you can submit your proposal, and *that* needs to be submitted before 19:00 UTC today |
| 10:22.56 | Arihant94 | it must be submitted before 5 pm UTC. |
| 10:23.36 | panna_cotta | OK, thank you. |
| 10:23.56 | gevaerts | I don't know about 17:00 UTC, but that's only a two hour difference anyway |
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| 10:25.46 | P-Alex | Hi, quick question: if I'm interested in more than one project for an organization, should I make one proposal including more projects or a separate request for each project? |
| 10:25.50 | P-Alex | Thanks |
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| 10:26.24 | gevaerts | P-Alex: in general, one proposal per project, but ask the organisation what they prefer |
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| 10:30.04 | newage_davinci | Hi everyone |
| 10:31.51 | Maesk4 | I'm so excited to participate (at last) in a GSoC! :DD |
| 10:32.49 | Arihant94 | Maesk4 which organisation you have chose to work for? |
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| 10:36.48 | kishoredbn | Hi I have a question, how to submit the proposal? |
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| 10:37.36 | dumindux | Go to Google Melange. There you can submit the proposal |
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| 10:41.31 | kishoredbn | I can see the form for submitting the abstract, one of whose entry is URL to proposal. So where should I upload the complete proposal? |
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| 10:41.55 | geekspark | hii |
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| 10:42.19 | geekspark | I have finished writing my proposal in ms word... |
| 10:42.32 | geekspark | Shall upload in this format only...?? |
| 10:42.43 | geekspark | or should I convert it to pdf..? |
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| 10:43.21 | dumindux | kishoredhn:you should put the proposal in the content section |
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| 10:48.06 | kishoredbn | dumindux: Mine has got some a lot of images and formatting. Can I upload the doc in my Google drive (make it public) and share the link in URL section of the form. This will work? |
| 10:48.40 | olly | kishoredbn: ask the org |
| 10:48.42 | olly | if it' |
| 10:48.47 | olly | s ok with them, it's ok |
| 10:48.48 | dumindux | kishoredbn: you cannot upload images on Melange |
| 10:48.51 | olly | if not, it's not |
| 10:49.27 | kishoredbn | Okay. |
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| 10:49.56 | olly | personally, a proposal submitted a few hours before the deadline on an external link suggests to me that they wanted to write it after the deadline |
| 10:49.57 | geekspark | I have finished writing my proposal in ms word.. |
| 10:50.04 | geekspark | Shall upload in this format only...?? |
| 10:50.10 | geekspark | or should I convert it to pdf..? |
| 10:50.35 | olly | you'll find word format isn't very popular with many open source projects |
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| 10:51.05 | geekspark | so should I convert it to pdf..?? |
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| 10:51.23 | olly | ask the org you're submitting to |
| 10:51.36 | Mandeep_Singh | dumindux, I'd copy pasted the content of my proposal and the image also get pasted as such. Isn't right? |
| 10:51.41 | olly | the default expectation is that your put it into the text area in melange |
| 10:51.54 | olly | you can paste HTML source there, but the formatting can get a bit mangled |
| 10:52.05 | geekspark | olly: thnx :) |
| 10:52.07 | Mandeep_Singh | okay |
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| 10:57.39 | Corey84 | if your tool for uploading / copy&paste has a preview option USE it for reason olly mentioned |
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| 11:01.55 | newage_davinci | after submitting proposals, do we need to do anything else |
| 11:02.01 | newage_davinci | ? |
| 11:05.15 | newage_davinci | after submitting proposals, do we need to do anything else ? |
| 11:06.02 | olly | newage_davinci: don't ask the same question repeatedly |
| 11:06.14 | olly | especially not after such a small interval |
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| 11:06.31 | olly | you should talk to the org you submitted to |
| 11:06.35 | newage_davinci | olly: sorry ! |
| 11:06.50 | dfighter | yes you do need to do something: wait patiently until the end of April |
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| 11:07.16 | olly | i really would talk to the org |
| 11:07.29 | olly | some simply won't accept students they haven't talked to |
| 11:07.46 | dfighter | olly, fortunately those are not mutually exclusive :) |
| 11:07.47 | olly | some require a qualify task (a patch or similar typically) |
| 11:08.18 | dfighter | also I was about to suggest to contribute anyways |
| 11:08.22 | olly | they aren't, but telling someone to wait patient does rather suggest there's nothong else they need to do |
| 11:08.25 | dfighter | I bet they will like that! |
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| 11:09.18 | newage_davinci | olly : I was talking about google part |
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| 11:09.59 | olly | only if they contact you |
| 11:10.37 | olly | e.g. if they need additional proof of enrollment |
| 11:11.07 | newage_davinci | olly : have you participated earlier |
| 11:12.05 | olly | not as a student - i graduated before gsoc began |
| 11:12.15 | olly | before google began too |
| 11:13.55 | Corey84 | olly, old fart :P |
| 11:14.24 | olly | play nice or get off my lawn |
| 11:14.59 | newage_davinci | olly : how do i talk to the organisation. should I submit some bug fixes? |
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| 11:15.15 | newage_davinci | olly : when are the result coming out |
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| 11:16.10 | uojmiller | hi friends |
| 11:16.16 | gevaerts | !timeline | newage_davinci |
| 11:16.17 | gsocbot | newage_davinci: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015 |
| 11:16.36 | uojmiller | i'm working on FOSSASIA |
| 11:16.45 | uojmiller | specifically sTeam collaboration platform |
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| 11:17.44 | uojmiller | is there anyone working on FOSSASIA?? |
| 11:18.01 | Corey84 | Fri Mar 27 11:18:01 UTC 2015 |
| 11:18.07 | olly | newage_davinci: see the org's contact page in melange |
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| 11:18.29 | Corey84 | 8 hours to go folks good luck to all |
| 11:18.40 | dfighter | interesting I got an email from them like 2 days ago |
| 11:18.54 | Maesk4 | Arihant94 I don't know yet, it's a huge list! D: |
| 11:18.58 | dfighter | asking me to submit a proposal if I am interested |
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| 11:19.17 | dfighter | I don't remember ever having anything to do with them :S |
| 11:19.20 | uojmiller | ya..., let's make this a unforgettable summer ... |
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| 11:19.30 | Maesk4 | yeahhhhh |
| 11:19.39 | olly | dfighter: they've spammed me previously (not about applying to gsoc) |
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| 11:19.47 | Corey84 | newage_davinci, what org? here at fedoraproject we have several proposals and prospects are clearly told ways to reach out |
| 11:19.50 | olly | i think they mined the mentors list for addresses |
| 11:19.56 | olly | which seems deeply inappropriate |
| 11:20.08 | dfighter | olly yea |
| 11:20.23 | dfighter | olly however I've never been a mentor, so they must have mined some other list too |
| 11:20.29 | olly | emailing students they'd previously talked to would be one thing |
| 11:20.30 | dfighter | either student list, or some other source |
| 11:20.40 | gevaerts | agrees |
| 11:20.41 | olly | yes, just saying there's a pattern of mining addresses and spamming them |
| 11:20.41 | gevaerts | Same here |
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| 11:21.06 | Corey84 | other options include using your default sync and chrome logs |
| 11:21.09 | olly | nods, i mentioned it here when it happened and it wasn't just me |
| 11:21.38 | dfighter | could be that I used that email for commits, so it's basically out there in those commit stat sites |
| 11:21.46 | dfighter | maybe they mined those |
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| 11:22.29 | dfighter | hmm here's an idea, I'll ask them |
| 11:22.34 | uojmiller | is there is any project available in localisation category ?? |
| 11:22.55 | olly | dfighter: tell them to stop spamming people while you're there |
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| 11:26.16 | rick_ | i think they are trying to get many slots by showing the huge no. of proposals |
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| 11:28.30 | dfighter | pretty sure the raw number of applicants doesn't get you many slots |
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| 11:34.11 | dveim | Hello. I posted proposal (I can see it in my dashboard), also I attached enrollment form (I got no reply). Did I miss something important for participation in GSoC 2015? |
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| 11:36.00 | gyani | hi |
| 11:36.39 | FalconKnight | Hi |
| 11:36.48 | Corey84 | how long ago ? |
| 11:37.18 | Corey84 | can take up to 30 minutes many longer given the rush to submit in last 8 hours before deadline |
| 11:38.04 | gyani | i made my proposal public, but I am not being able to see it. |
| 11:38.15 | gyani | that is without logging in |
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| 11:38.43 | asla | what ?? Is one supposed to get any reply, I don't think so - I submitted my proposal more than a week ago and have got no communication |
| 11:38.58 | asla | Unless someone comments on your proposal |
| 11:39.08 | dveim | I posted it ~30 hours ago |
| 11:39.50 | asla | You don't get any reply AFAIK |
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| 11:40.13 | asla | if you can see it in the dashboard then you are good to go |
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| 11:40.44 | dveim | well, I just want to be sure I didn't miss smth. Ok, nice to hear, thanks :) |
| 11:40.47 | darnir | Your mentors however will get an email about a new proposal. |
| 11:41.01 | darnir | But please don't message them asking for confirmation. |
| 11:41.12 | dveim | ok |
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| 11:52.51 | zajith | what |
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| 12:01.21 | cashrulz | hey guys |
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| 12:03.00 | bongcon | Hello!So I have submittd my proposals 2 an org,now when will I no whether or not d orgg has accepted my proposal?and not discrded it strtaway! |
| 12:03.02 | cashrulz | just need a suggestion on project on rails |
| 12:03.35 | cashrulz | related to Cookies implementation |
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| 12:04.21 | MatthewWilkes | !timeline | bongcon |
| 12:04.21 | gsocbot | bongcon: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015 |
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| 12:05.08 | cashrulz | how to proceed? |
| 12:05.30 | bongcon | Yeah I get that,my question is will a particular org after today contact all d applicants who hav applied for further discussion abt the proposals? |
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| 12:06.32 | dfighter | bongcon, you should have contacted them |
| 12:06.38 | dfighter | before writing the proposal even |
| 12:06.44 | cashrulz | tell me a channel where discussion regarding rails is going on |
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| 12:08.15 | dfighter | bongcon, nevertheless, they may contact you, or they may not, it's totally up to them |
| 12:09.02 | mario__ | Hello Everyone.I want to upload an image in my gsoc proposal but how do i do it.It asks for a source |
| 12:09.28 | dfighter | mario__, you can't upload images to melange, so you have to host it somewhere else |
| 12:09.46 | dfighter | mario__, there are over 9000 image host sites, so pick one? :) |
| 12:10.11 | mario__ | dfighter:thanks |
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| 12:10.21 | bongcon | @dfighter u mean 2 say its totally up to d orgs abt how they will rank d proposals,r8t?nd the thng abt my dashboard changing to Projects will happen when? |
| 12:10.28 | rharish | Nightrose: ping :D |
| 12:11.06 | dfighter | bongcon, could you rephrase that in English? |
| 12:11.07 | dfighter | thanks |
| 12:11.35 | bongcon | Yeah sure!u can see dat here.http://en.flossmanuals.net/melange/students-students-application-phase/ |
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| 12:12.13 | bongcon | dats in English,I think! ;) |
| 12:12.21 | dfighter | bongcon, that's some guide not your question |
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| 12:13.48 | bongcon | no scroll down a bit,and go to Checking d status of your proposal,wd u care 2 explain 2 me ,what's meant by after d program deadline |
| 12:14.15 | bongcon | am confused,as dere happens 2 b a lot of deadlines.:) |
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| 12:15.47 | dfighter | bongcon, what do you mean by lots of deadlines? |
| 12:16.35 | bongcon | as in wat is a program deadline?It is kind of ambiguous,dont u think? |
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| 12:17.04 | bongcon | if it wd hav been application dedline,it wd hv meant smthng! |
| 12:17.47 | bongcon | prog dedline kind of refers 2 31st August,or the GSOC closing date! |
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| 12:18.11 | dfighter | yea it sounds weird |
| 12:18.20 | dfighter | but nevertheless, you will get that email in the end of April |
| 12:18.30 | dfighter | like the timeline suggests |
| 12:19.05 | bongcon | Yeah,kind of luking fd 2 it!Neways it was nice talking 2 u,Hv a nice day! |
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| 12:20.12 | bongcon | nd of course Good Luck 2 all d potential applicants here,we r gonna hv a great summer ahead,this year! |
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| 12:21.56 | Corey84 | sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' |
| 12:21.56 | Corey84 | sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file |
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| 12:22.11 | Corey84 | Fri Mar 27 12:22:11 UTC 2015 |
| 12:22.11 | Corey84 | deadline is 1900UTC tonight |
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| 12:26.58 | gsoc362 | hello, since applications end today, will solving bugs etc during this 'decision' time put me in better stead with the organization? |
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| 12:29.04 | giuseppe | gsoc362, depends from the organization, I guess. Surely GNU supports that |
| 12:29.48 | gsoc362 | okay. also everytime i edit my proposal does the org recieve a notification? does this look bad? |
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| 12:34.41 | giuseppe | gsoc362, it seems I don'get such notifications, but would not look bad. It is better to improve your proposal than being afraid of triggering some notifications |
| 12:34.54 | gsoc362 | okay great! |
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| 12:41.00 | Corey84 | tweaks vice total rewrites makes a difference |
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| 12:41.35 | Corey84 | at fedora we've had a few prospects change things MANY times to clarify / tidy up house |
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| 12:57.20 | Guest93608 | Hi, I head new organization will get only 1-2 solt. Is it true |
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| 12:58.18 | Guest93608 | Also Are organizations which came under psf in previous years will be considered as new or not? |
| 13:00.23 | Guest93608 | gsocbot: admin |
| 13:00.35 | Guest93608 | gsocbot: help |
| 13:00.35 | gsocbot | Guest93608: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 13:01.27 | Guest93608 | terri: Are organizations which came under psf in previous years like tardis and mailman will be considered as new or not? |
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| 13:04.47 | Utal | hi i am facing a problem while uploading image in meangle can anyone here help me out |
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| 13:05.57 | tbr | Guest93608: I'm also just an org representative, you surely mentioned those things in your application, didn't you? Then that wouldn't sound particularly like 'new org'. For official statements you'll have to wait around until the west coast wakes up |
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| 13:06.10 | tbr | Utal: someone said earlier that you can't upload images, you can link to them though. |
| 13:06.59 | gevaerts | Utal: melange doesn't support uploading images. You have to put them elsewhere (imgur has been suggested) and use a link |
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| 13:08.00 | dfighter | I'm even surprised that some people on the interwebs don't know about image hosting sites |
| 13:08.09 | gevaerts | never uses them :) |
| 13:08.10 | dfighter | like how do they even link cute kittens? :P |
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| 13:09.11 | dfighter | gevaerts, you probably have your own hosting solution then for images |
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| 13:09.38 | gevaerts | There is that |
| 13:09.43 | dfighter | :) |
| 13:10.11 | gevaerts | Does google drive work for this? I mean, people presumably do have a google account anyway :) |
| 13:10.20 | dfighter | I have no idea tbh |
| 13:10.24 | dfighter | but probably |
| 13:10.32 | dfighter | as you can share your stored stuff |
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| 13:11.19 | Corey84 | grive (on ubuntu ) does |
| 13:11.55 | Corey84 | dangerous presumption to make outside this context |
| 13:12.10 | gevaerts | Well yes |
| 13:12.18 | gevaerts | But I'm assuming gsoc applications here |
| 13:12.19 | Corey84 | even within it as im not aware of any forced use of gmail account |
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| 13:12.26 | gedare | you need to have an account to enroll for melange |
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| 13:12.37 | gevaerts | google drive doesn't need a gmail account, merely a google account |
| 13:12.40 | gedare | one of our mentors mentioned it because he did not have one beforehand |
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| 13:13.02 | Corey84 | YOU are aware you can create a google without a gmail email RIGHT |
| 13:13.19 | gedare | i can't create a google I don't have the patent rights |
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| 13:22.24 | sagar_hani | !next |
| 13:22.26 | gsocbot | sagar_hani: "next" is GSoC student applications close on 27 March at 19:00 UTC |
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| 13:23.58 | Corey84 | Fri Mar 27 13:23:58 UTC 2015 |
| 13:23.58 | Corey84 | Deadline is 1900 UTC tonight, good luck to all applicants |
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| 13:35.21 | gs0c | does anybody comment on proposals at all at this stage |
| 13:35.40 | Corey84 | the orgs may offline but not normally |
| 13:36.06 | gs0c | and we get the allocation results in mid april right |
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| 13:38.07 | teepee-- | gs0c: yes, selection results will go public at the time defined in the timeline |
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| 13:45.07 | ivucica | Hello! Am I correct in concluding that this year students have to submit proof of enrolment *in advance*, before they can even submit the proposal? |
| 13:45.20 | namratab94 | ivucica, Yes |
| 13:45.44 | ivucica | Uh-oh :-)= |
| 13:45.47 | ivucica | namratab94: thank you |
| 13:46.58 | Ch3ck | ivucica: what up? |
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| 13:48.02 | namratab94 | ivucica, Anytime :) |
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| 13:48.47 | ivucica | Ch3ck: Croatian students have a student card, but typically sign up electronically. |
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| 13:51.11 | ivucica | Looks like the student will be able to put some documentation together, but possibly not ideal documentation as specified in the "Proof of Enrolment" doc. |
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| 13:55.42 | gedare | ivucica: I've heard that OSPO will come ask for more if it is not sufficient. |
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| 14:11.04 | saikrishna | Hi , I have a doubt, After uploading my proposal and Enrollment form, I could not find any documents when I click on Important document under My Dashboard. Is this fine? |
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| 14:13.25 | EmmHaych | anyone from OSRF here? |
| 14:13.43 | Ch3ck | ivucica: any proof is fine |
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| 14:14.47 | sagar_hani | Hey, I have uploaded my enrollment form. Can someone help me? Where exactly I should submit my proposal ? |
| 14:15.14 | EmmHaych | @sagar_hani: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015 and click 'submit proposal' |
| 14:16.39 | EmmHaych | @saikrishna: Neither the proposal nor an enrollment form counts as an 'important document'. The enrollment form is in section 7 in 'My Profile' and the proposals are stored under 'Proposals' in 'My Dashboard' |
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| 14:17.15 | saikrishna | EmmHaych, Thank you! |
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| 14:22.55 | sagar_hani | I checked this page : https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015 I can see only 'Submit enrollement form' but I'm not able to see the 'Submit proposal' button anywhere! :( |
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| 14:24.07 | EmmHaych | @sagar_hani: You need to submit enrollment form before you can submit a proposal |
| 14:24.36 | sagar_hani | Okay. Thank you. |
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| 14:38.34 | mohit__ | hi carols |
| 14:38.40 | carols | hi mohit__ |
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| 14:38.49 | mohit__ | i have just submitted a proposal |
| 14:38.58 | mohit__ | i did not get any confirmation email |
| 14:39.08 | mohit__ | also the list proposals section doesn't show anything |
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| 14:39.21 | carols | mohit__: then youâll need to submit it again |
| 14:39.29 | mohit__ | oh |
| 14:39.46 | mohit__ | why? |
| 14:39.47 | mohit__ | because it said data saved successfully |
| 14:40.14 | mohit__ | can u check if it submitted in my id? |
| 14:40.28 | carols | mohit__: then i guess youâre okay |
| 14:40.37 | carols | mohit__: no, i canât check via your id |
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| 14:40.53 | carols | theyâre two different functions |
| 14:41.21 | mohit__ | ok.. i also submitted enrollment proff |
| 14:41.23 | mohit__ | proof* |
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| 14:41.33 | mohit__ | before the proposal.. |
| 14:41.45 | mohit__ | so does it take time for proposal to reflect on the list proposal section? |
| 14:41.51 | mohit__ | or is it instant? |
| 14:41.58 | mohit__ | if it is instant i have to resubmit |
| 14:42.06 | carols | mohit__: itâs instant |
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| 14:42.35 | mohit__ | ok :( |
| 14:42.59 | Maesk4 | Question: First I sent the enrollment form and secondly the translation, do you have both of them or only the last one? |
| 14:43.24 | carols | Maesk4: can you download them both or only one? |
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| 14:44.24 | Maesk4 | only the last one |
| 14:44.27 | Maesk4 | :( |
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| 14:44.39 | deshrajdry | carols, Hi |
| 14:44.45 | carols | hi deshrajdry |
| 14:44.59 | carols | Maesk4: then just reupload them both in a zip file |
| 14:45.20 | deshrajdry | I have a question that how many students are going to be selected this year? Please give approx count. |
| 14:45.27 | Maesk4 | yeahh I was thinking the same. Thank you! |
| 14:45.33 | deshrajdry | Will it be near the last year count ? |
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| 14:45.36 | carols | deshrajdry: i donât know |
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| 14:45.48 | carols | youâll just have to wait and see |
| 14:46.01 | deshrajdry | Ok no problem :) |
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| 14:51.00 | mohit__ | when will they check eligibility of student |
| 14:51.04 | mohit__ | after selection |
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| 14:51.10 | mohit__ | ? |
| 14:51.15 | mohit__ | ? |
| 14:51.43 | mohit__ | I have provided my document but no one has contacted me yet |
| 14:52.08 | candhare | they'll check submission ends today, but before selection completes |
| 14:52.13 | candhare | *after submission |
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| 14:52.49 | carols | mohit__: after you submit the form |
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| 14:52.55 | carols | âtheyâ is me |
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| 14:53.16 | mohit__ | ok carols i have submited the document |
| 14:53.20 | carols | okay |
| 14:53.41 | mohit__ | i have also submitted my proposal again and now it shows up in the list |
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| 14:54.06 | idleguy_ | !logs |
| 14:54.07 | gsocbot | idleguy_: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 14:55.21 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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| 15:03.43 | decltypeme | great |
| 15:03.52 | decltypeme | sorry wrong msg :D |
| 15:04.01 | decltypeme | Is it possible to change mailing address later? |
| 15:04.16 | aerophile | is the propsal's language supposed to be very formal ? |
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| 15:05.38 | carols | decltypeme: sure |
| 15:05.44 | carols | aerophile: thatâs up to the organization |
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| 15:06.38 | idleguy_ | hi carols ... can we submit the proof of enrollment as a .jpg file? |
| 15:06.38 | aerophile | ok thanks |
| 15:06.46 | carols | idleguy_: sure |
| 15:07.00 | idleguy_ | carols: ok thanks |
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| 15:08.23 | AayushRanaut_ | Hi ExCode! |
| 15:08.29 | ExCode | hello mate |
| 15:08.38 | ExCode | hows it going ? |
| 15:08.41 | AayushRanaut | Great |
| 15:08.48 | AayushRanaut | remember me from yesterday? |
| 15:08.48 | carols | you folks want to take it to a pm? |
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| 15:08.57 | ExCode | yaeh ofc |
| 15:09.02 | ExCode | yeah* |
| 15:09.02 | carols | thanks |
| 15:09.15 | MatthewWilkes | I'm glad I'll be at the pub at 1900 UTC. I suspect there will be many perturbed people asking for extensions. The number of submissions today has been crazy. |
| 15:09.23 | AayushRanaut | sorry! |
| 15:09.26 | carols | MatthewWilkes: always is |
| 15:09.34 | carols | AayushRanaut: np, just take the conversation elsewhere :-) |
| 15:09.39 | ExCode | alright |
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| 15:16.21 | stavan | Hi, I have submitted the enrollment form and the proposal |
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| 15:16.37 | stavan | is there anything else I need to do to complete my application ? |
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| 15:17.59 | carols | stavan: speak to your potential mentoring organization and see if theyâd like any more details on your proposal |
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| 15:20.25 | stavan | @carols : thanks |
| 15:20.33 | carols | yw |
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| 15:27.21 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
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| 15:28.23 | MatthewWilkes | *gulp* |
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| 15:28.36 | MatthewWilkes | It's one of those days where no amount of tea is enough |
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| 15:29.30 | carols | MatthewWilkes: i completely agree |
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| 15:30.05 | Corey84 | Fri Mar 27 15:30:05 UTC 2015 |
| 15:30.30 | Corey84 | 3.5 hours left all ...good luck to all applicants |
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| 15:31.43 | meflin | ponders if its to early to add some bourbon to that tea ... |
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| 15:33.39 | MatthewWilkes | meflin: Shush, there are innocent ears present. |
| 15:33.51 | blast007 | Corey84: No need for countdowns. It would get very loud here if everyone started doing that.. |
| 15:34.37 | Corey84 | blast007, wasn't meant as one |
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| 15:37.07 | kblin | hey carols, got a moment |
| 15:37.11 | carols | kblin: sure |
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| 15:40.42 | h7oda | what title i should write in gsoc in proposal ? |
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| 15:41.08 | carols | h7oda: what title did the mentoring organization suggest? |
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| 15:41.24 | h7oda | the eclipse foundation |
| 15:41.45 | carols | h7oda: thatâs the title they suggested for the project? |
| 15:41.49 | carols | iâm surprised to hear that. |
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| 15:42.17 | kblin | h7oda: I'm always partial with "Grand Moff", myself, but I take in this case this is more about the name of your project proposal |
| 15:42.18 | h7oda | can't understand you |
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| 15:42.58 | drktrx | carol is there a public document for students which explains how the selection procedure accommodates multiple proposal clashes. |
| 15:43.12 | carols | drktrx: nope |
| 15:43.20 | carols | the organizations just talk to each other |
| 15:43.25 | carols | donât need a document to describe that :-) |
| 15:43.26 | gedare | I prefer "Darth" myself. |
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| 15:43.38 | h7oda | do you mean any name or what ? |
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| 15:43.53 | drktrx | okay. is the student asked which org he prefers? |
| 15:44.02 | gedare | drktrx: usually that will happen. |
| 15:44.09 | carols | drktrx: possibly. depends on what the organizations choose to do |
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| 15:44.19 | drktrx | okay thanks |
| 15:44.25 | kblin | h7oda: well, it should be a nice and concise summary of what your proposal is about |
| 15:44.29 | kblin | h7oda: like I had |
| 15:44.30 | carols | h7oda: you should use the name that the mentoring organization suggests, as i said before |
| 15:44.51 | kblin | h7oda: like I had "Implementing the NTLM SSPI in Wine" back in 2005 |
| 15:45.20 | stavan_ | @carols : other than what the organization might need, are the strict requirements fulfilled with the enrollment form and proposal ? |
| 15:45.31 | gedare | h7oda: Probably your project proposal is based on an open idea the org had, maybe it had a short title itself you can use or elaborate upon? |
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| 15:45.44 | carols | stavan_: iâm not sure what you mean by strict requirements? |
| 15:45.53 | h7oda | you mean if i choose eclipse foundation ...... write eclipse foundation on title ? |
| 15:45.56 | gedare | carols: we keep getting that question...FAQ++? |
| 15:46.05 | stavan_ | @ carol : minimum requirements to complete the application |
| 15:46.08 | carols | gedare: sorry, what question? |
| 15:46.29 | carols | stavan_: the requirements to complete the application are up to the org, you should ask them |
| 15:46.30 | gedare | carols: my apologies too, about the 'minimum requirements' --- proof of enrollment + submitted application |
| 15:46.53 | kblin | h7oda: I don't think that's needed. after all you're applying to the eclipse foundation, they should know who they are |
| 15:47.06 | stavan_ | okay great ! thanks ! |
| 15:48.22 | ermofra89 | Hi, about the proof of enrollment, a screenshot of my personal University page like this one is ok?? Thanks. https://www.dropbox.com/s/6def8y4ogxhzyd0/GSOCStudentDocument.png?dl=0 |
| 15:48.42 | h7oda | i'm in proposal The eclipse foundation there's a title so what i write there ? |
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| 15:49.01 | carols | ermofra89: did you read the instructions for the proof of enrollment? |
| 15:49.10 | carols | h7oda: ask the mentoring organization. |
| 15:49.24 | ermofra89 | yes, and this should be ok |
| 15:49.25 | MatthewWilkes | ermofra89: I'd be careful about posting that kind of thing in public |
| 15:49.36 | h7oda | okay thanks |
| 15:49.46 | calistus_ | Carol: hope we are on point when we don't receive any complain about our proof of enrollment. |
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| 15:50.13 | ermofra89 | No problem, there isnât secret in this page |
| 15:50.46 | stavan_ | @carol : i have uploaded my i20 as a proof of enrollment. is it fine ? |
| 15:51.17 | h7oda | how to contact mentoring organization please ? |
| 15:51.22 | dfighter | they just don't want to understand... |
| 15:51.30 | carols | stavan_: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/proofofenrollment âRather than ask questions on the mailing list or in IRC about whether or not the document you have is acceptable as proof of enrollment, simply submit the document to Melange. If it is not what we need, we will request an alternate document from you. If you do not receive an email request from us for a new document you can assume what you submitted is fin |
| 15:52.38 | ermofra89 | ok, thaks and sorry. |
| 15:53.00 | gedare | h7oda: the mentoring org's IRC or mailnig list? |
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| 15:53.41 | calistus_ | Thanks |
| 15:53.56 | h7oda | thanks |
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| 16:02.36 | MatthewWilkes | He's gone now, but student id number, full name, date and place of birth, academic registration info and tax id number are quite sufficient for someone to call up your uni and cause you headaches. |
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| 16:04.37 | goldsoft25 | i cannot submit myn proposal ..why? incf organisation geppetto.. |
| 16:04.55 | goldsoft25 | i shall just wait for 2016 gsoc |
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| 16:05.47 | carols | goldsoft25: did you want help, or are you okay? |
| 16:06.24 | goldsoft25 | no... i have failed to submit my proposal on melange website |
| 16:06.36 | dfighter | you still have a few hours to do so |
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| 16:07.12 | goldsoft25 | yeah i am trying but i have to see the submit button |
| 16:07.13 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
| 16:07.28 | dfighter | goldsoft25, it's right there on the site... |
| 16:07.42 | dfighter | goldsoft25, maybe you haven't submitted your proof of enrollment? |
| 16:07.47 | dfighter | or you are not logged in? |
| 16:08.33 | goldsoft25 | you first check incf organisation . openworm organisation |
| 16:08.41 | tnkhanh | should I submit multiple proposals or just one? |
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| 16:09.09 | EmmHaych | @tnkhanh: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#6._Can_a_student_submit_more_than_one |
| 16:09.13 | dfighter | goldsoft25, http://www.picbutler.de/bild/321158/20150327000002298wuwgj.jpg |
| 16:09.23 | dfighter | there's the button |
| 16:09.28 | tnkhanh | 'cause I heard some orgs disqualify people with multiple proposals --' |
| 16:09.40 | EmmHaych | is that vista? :O |
| 16:09.57 | dfighter | tnkhanh, how could they possibly do that? They can only see your proposals for their org |
| 16:10.13 | dfighter | EmmHaych, it's Windows 7 |
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| 16:10.31 | tnkhanh | dfighter: multiple proposals sent to an org |
| 16:10.43 | dfighter | tnkhanh, ah, that I don't know |
| 16:10.45 | blast007 | tnkhanh: talk to the org in question then |
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| 16:11.40 | EmmHaych | tnkhanh, I'm new to GSOC but when I submitted a proposal to the organization I wanted to work with, I applied for 2 projects in the same proposal |
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| 16:12.09 | tnkhanh | EmmHaych: nice. |
| 16:12.24 | blast007 | tnkhanh / EmmHaych: that would be up to the organization to decide how they want that done though, so again, just ask the org |
| 16:12.38 | Lyude | When are the accepted students announced this year for GSoC? |
| 16:12.42 | EmmHaych | blast007: + |
| 16:12.46 | carols | Lyude: 27 april |
| 16:12.53 | EmmHaych | Lyude: !timeline |
| 16:12.57 | Lyude | carols, awesome, and are they actually decided on before then? |
| 16:13.02 | carols | Lyude: nope |
| 16:13.07 | Lyude | Awesome |
| 16:13.10 | Lyude | Thank you! |
| 16:13.12 | carols | yw |
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| 16:15.35 | goldsoft25 | hullo guys |
| 16:15.47 | carols | hi goldsoft25 |
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| 16:17.59 | goldsoft25 | @carol... we submitted our academic transcripts as we had been told by team in uganda |
| 16:18.07 | carols | goldsoft25: okay |
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| 16:19.50 | goldsoft25 | let me try again and see |
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| 16:21.17 | goldsoft25 | i will just try next year... |
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| 16:21.52 | EmmHaych | goldsoft25: Don't give up! We are here to help you with any issues you have |
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| 16:24.05 | goldsoft25 | ok ... help me to submit this proposal... i went to melange dashboard.. I selected the organisation and wrote my information on their template but failed to submit... Is it my network or .... iam doing it under the school network |
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| 16:24.32 | asy | Did you save it ? |
| 16:25.00 | goldsoft25 | no i have not yet saved it.. |
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| 16:25.20 | asy | You should try to do-it again. You still have ~1h30 left. |
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| 16:26.04 | goldsoft25 | ok thanks <asy> |
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| 16:34.04 | goldsoft25 | hullo ... @carol. how do you save it because i cant see the save button |
| 16:35.07 | carols | goldsoft25: thereâs a submit button at the bottom. and my nick is carols |
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| 16:36.24 | goldsoft25 | u check this link and see |
| 16:36.27 | goldsoft25 | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/submit/google/gsoc2015/incf |
| 16:37.36 | carols | goldsoft25: that wonât get us a link to your proposal. thatâs just a link for a student to submit a proposal to the INCF mentoring organization. |
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| 16:37.41 | goldsoft25 | ok thanks <aayush> |
| 16:37.49 | AayushRanaut | np |
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| 16:38.16 | downey | prepares some relaxing tea for the final few hours of chaos |
| 16:38.18 | goldsoft25 | iam using windows... google chrome web browser |
| 16:38.21 | carols | thanks downey |
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| 16:38.46 | downey | Also, students, waiting until the last minute to submit your proposal makes your org admins and mentors sad |
| 16:38.50 | EmmHaych | downey: How did you make this tea? It's amazing. |
| 16:39.05 | EmmHaych | #newToIRC |
| 16:39.13 | downey | EmmHaych: we're experts in tea around here |
| 16:39.30 | EmmHaych | downey: I ran out of milk :/ |
| 16:39.32 | meflin | Tea is serious business |
| 16:39.50 | Corey84 | cream then ? |
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| 16:40.30 | EmmHaych | Na. I'll run to the supermarket. brb |
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| 16:43.06 | goldsoft25 | hullo |
| 16:43.37 | carols | hi goldsoft25 |
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| 16:51.29 | bdurepo1 | Hello. I am attempting to complete the student registration form for GSoC '15, but the checkbox associated with agreement form isn't rendered. Therefore, you cannot accept the terms. |
| 16:52.01 | ankita-ks | You have to scroll down. The checkbox is at the end. |
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| 16:52.08 | ankita-ks | bdurepo1 ^ |
| 16:52.45 | bdurepo1 | I have scrolled down and it seems to be gone. LOL |
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| 16:54.05 | EmmHaych | bdurepo1: I just tried the registration form and it seems to be rendering for me. What browser are you using? Did you try refreshing the page? |
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| 16:54.28 | EmmHaych | RIP goldsoft25 |
| 16:54.50 | bdurepo1 | https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1JiRHLxB5fWbTNvMl9ma1VaQkk/view?usp=sharing |
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| 16:56.01 | carols | bdurepo1: if youâre having trouble with melange, please file a bug with the melange team |
| 16:56.14 | bdurepo1 | EmmHaych: I tried both firefox and safari. I posted a link of a screenshot. |
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| 16:57.18 | bdurepo1 | 5:00 PM Friday, Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) is |
| 16:57.29 | EmmHaych | bdurepo1: The link you are using (http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/student_agreement) doesn't have the checkbox and you are correct. You need to accept the terms and conditions at the following link: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/show/google/gsoc2015 |
| 16:58.00 | EmmHaych | bdurepo1: This can also be done 'My Profile' section of your account. |
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| 17:03.26 | bdurepo1 | I think they took the link down becasue the deadline has passed. |
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| 17:04.15 | Corey84 | deadline is 1900 UTC bdurepo1 its only 1705 UTC |
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| 17:04.33 | carols | bdurepo1: the deadline has not passed yet. |
| 17:05.04 | Corey84 | 7pm UK / UTC |
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| 17:07.46 | bdurepo1 | got it thanks all. I am having one of those days |
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| 17:12.27 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
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| 17:12.46 | carols | !extension |
| 17:12.46 | gsocbot | carols: "extension" is extension is not available, sorry. You can work on open source outside GSoC and submit earlier next year. If you want to work on Open Source projects, you can usually use the same contact details you would have used for applying to GSoC. |
| 17:12.53 | carols | cool |
| 17:12.56 | carols | thanks gsocbot |
| 17:13.01 | meflin | darn it .. I have a new tea and forgot to make it today :) |
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| 17:13.59 | introom | is the system working? I cannot submit proposal right now. |
| 17:14.19 | carols | introom: yes, the system is working |
| 17:15.39 | introom | thnx. carols |
| 17:16.09 | carols | yw |
| 17:16.43 | swook | Should I show preference to orgs in my proposal already? Are they allowed to contact the student when dedup is required? |
| 17:17.11 | carols | swook: they donât have to contact you for your preference if you end up in a duplicate situation, so donât worry about it now |
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| 17:17.57 | decltypeme | !deadline :D |
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| 17:19.13 | Slurpee | !next |
| 17:19.14 | gsocbot | Slurpee: "next" is GSoC student applications close on 27 March at 19:00 UTC |
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| 17:24.50 | debesh_cool | can I talk to any gsoc mentor now?? |
| 17:24.50 | swook | carols: will I be notified in the case of a dup? |
| 17:24.58 | carols | debesh_cool: sure |
| 17:25.06 | carols | swook: possibly. maybe or maybe not |
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| 17:25.16 | swook | I see, thanks for the clarification |
| 17:25.20 | debesh_cool | carola are you a gsoc mentor?? |
| 17:25.35 | swook | carols organizes GSoC :) |
| 17:26.14 | meflin | there are lots of mentors here |
| 17:26.22 | MatthewWilkes | There are dozens of us! |
| 17:26.28 | debesh_cool | Carols I have applied for gsco for the first time. How will I know that my proposal has been accepted?? |
| 17:26.44 | debesh_cool | *gsoc |
| 17:26.45 | carols | debesh_cool: youâll be sent an email on 27 april |
| 17:26.46 | swook | You will be notified in time |
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| 17:27.27 | debesh_cool | Carols thanks |
| 17:27.35 | carols | yw |
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| 17:28.52 | abhi_ | Hi! I'm new here and I'm quite a beginner at programming. Would GSOC accept projects which are fairly at a simpler level? |
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| 17:29.38 | carols | abhi_: depends on the organization. you should look at their ideas page and ask them |
| 17:29.42 | meflin | there are many easy level projects |
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| 17:35.33 | carols | i like how quiet it is in here, hope it stays that way :-) |
| 17:35.38 | carols | i donât like having to mute the channel |
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| 17:35.56 | carols | i suppose everyoneâs probably working furiously on their last minute proposals |
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| 17:37.11 | debesh_cool | carols wont all the organisations take time to decide which proposals to select. How can we come to know the results 2moro |
| 17:37.18 | debesh_cool | ? |
| 17:37.27 | carols | debesh_cool: you donât come to know the results tomorrow? |
| 17:37.34 | carols | i donât think i understand what youâre asking |
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| 17:37.43 | ivucica | carols: or answering students' questions while they're working on last minute proposals ;-) |
| 17:37.44 | meflin | it does take time to consider all the apps and choose |
| 17:37.50 | debesh_cool | carols Sorry I got u |
| 17:37.55 | downey | debesh_cool: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015 ... 27 april |
| 17:38.02 | ivucica | debesh_cool: you should take a look at the schedule |
| 17:38.04 | JordiGH | Would it be worthwhile to have some kind of wording in our GSoC materials that we don't really call each other "sir" on the internet? |
| 17:38.05 | ivucica | downey++ |
| 17:38.25 | carols | JordiGH: i hate being called sir. |
| 17:38.26 | debesh_cool | downey thanks.... I am clarrified now |
| 17:38.30 | downey | JordiGH: http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do.pdf |
| 17:38.32 | ivucica | JordiGH: we don't, sir? |
| 17:38.58 | downey | carlos: me too |
| 17:39.03 | carols | ha! |
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| 17:39.09 | carols | well played downey :-) |
| 17:39.15 | ivucica | downey: ohgod that's so amazing. |
| 17:39.19 | JordiGH | carols: I don't exactly hate it, but it makes me think that they're thinking of really awkward social hierarchies that I don't approve of. |
| 17:39.27 | JordiGH | Leave me out of your hierarchy! |
| 17:39.31 | downey | ivucica: that's been floating around a few years now |
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| 17:40.09 | JordiGH | carols: Also, yes, the assumption that everyone online is male, yuck. |
| 17:40.16 | carols | yeah. |
| 17:40.16 | meflin | JordiGH: certain places teach that in school |
| 17:40.20 | carols | itâs really annoying. |
| 17:40.40 | ivucica | downey: I just wish it crossed my path sooner. |
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| 17:40.42 | JordiGH | Anyway, can you suggest some kind of wording in our ideas page or whatever to get the point across that we don't do the sir thing? |
| 17:41.08 | JordiGH | I don't want to sound culturally insensitive... |
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| 17:41.26 | meflin | its in my faq |
| 17:41.26 | carols | JordiGH: âwe prefer to be addressed in x way" |
| 17:41.33 | JordiGH | meflin: ulr plz |
| 17:41.33 | meflin | ie stop doing this |
| 17:41.42 | terri | JordiGH: we have https://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#How_should_I_address_my_emails_.28or_Why_shouldn.27t_I_start_my_emails_with_.22Dear_Sir.22.29.3F |
| 17:42.07 | JordiGH | terri: Great, I'm gonna yoink that. |
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| 17:42.35 | downey | "Why does Meflin always say no?" |
| 17:42.41 | |Kev| | terri: Good call. |
| 17:42.46 | terri | downey: someone asked. :) |
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| 17:43.11 | meflin | https://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode/2015 |
| 17:43.19 | |Kev| | I don't mind being called (as a bloke) Sir in some contexts (martial arts, or salespeople etc.), but it winds even me up in OSS. |
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| 17:43.40 | |Kev| | I think it annoys me if it's not face to face. |
| 17:43.51 | downey | another problem we have is "Dr. First Name" |
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| 17:43.55 | meflin | downey: meflin says no because meflin does not say the evil oposit of no |
| 17:43.56 | swook | Dr.?! |
| 17:44.03 | JordiGH | Oh, yeah. |
| 17:44.07 | terri | downey: at least for me, Dr. Terri is a totally appropriate form of address! it cracks me up, though. |
| 17:44.08 | JordiGH | We get the Dr thing too, sometimes. |
| 17:44.09 | |Kev| | If people want to call me Dr. Kev, I'm fine with that (well, kinda). |
| 17:44.24 | downey | considers changing his nick to pepper |
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| 17:44.34 | |Kev| | I'd rather be Dr. Kev than Mr. Smith. |
| 17:44.37 | JordiGH | downey: Or Who. |
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| 17:45.28 | ivucica | John Who, PhD |
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| 17:45.30 | garvitdelhi | !next |
| 17:45.32 | gsocbot | garvitdelhi: "next" is GSoC student applications close on 27 March at 19:00 UTC |
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| 17:45.59 | ivucica | Uh, I am tempted to try this... |
| 17:46.01 | ivucica | !oncall |
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| 17:46.16 | ivucica | !timein mtv |
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| 17:46.28 | meflin | ivucica: play with the bot in PM |
| 17:46.28 | ivucica | Eh. Different bot. |
| 17:46.47 | ivucica | meflin: will do :) |
| 17:46.52 | Lyude | Is there any shame in taking parts of your own GSoC proposal from last year and reusing them, assuming they're still valid? |
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| 17:47.04 | carols | Lyude: what does the org say? |
| 17:47.06 | gedare | Lyude: Do you feel ashamed? |
| 17:47.17 | meflin | no it shows the ability to reuse code :D |
| 17:47.20 | Lyude | no, I just used the word shame cause it sounded funny wording it that way |
| 17:47.22 | downey | Lyude: reuse is generally a desired quality in open source |
| 17:47.53 | gedare | Lyude: the only aspect is, some people don't like to read copy-paste, so you may definitely want to indicate sections that are copied from elsewhere/earlier prose. |
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| 17:48.08 | Lyude | carols, now that I think about my work from last year I'm pretty sure it'd be alright |
| 17:48.17 | carols | great |
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| 17:49.17 | decltypeme | so, how can we celebrate the application closing? :D |
| 17:49.30 | carols | decltypeme: ask the org |
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| 17:49.39 | decltypeme | LOL "D |
| 17:49.56 | carols | itâs not really a celebratory moment for me |
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| 17:50.07 | carols | just means a lot of people i suddenly have to say no to and make unhappy |
| 17:50.24 | carols | ends up with a lot of people yelling at me. :-( |
| 17:50.26 | gedare | *new people |
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| 17:50.48 | decltypeme | hmmm, maybe, hopefully it won't happen and all people will manage to submit on time :) |
| 17:50.49 | EmmHaych | carols: On the bright side you get to say yes to a lot of bright people and give them a platform to contribute :). |
| 17:51.01 | carols | EmmHaych: that doesnât happen for another month :-) |
| 17:51.16 | gsoc042 | me |
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| 17:51.50 | downey | maybe meflin can write a "no" bot |
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| 17:51.57 | meflin | downey: no :D |
| 17:52.02 | downey | good answer |
| 17:52.06 | cs_shadow | is overwhelmed by the sudden flood of new applications in these last moments |
| 17:52.10 | decltypeme | maybe GSoC should end on 2nd april in 2016 (42 fans would relate :D) |
| 17:52.16 | EmmHaych | carols: Is the only way to find out if you were accepted/rejected waiting for 27th April? Or do orgs usually approach accepted students earlier? |
| 17:52.31 | meflin | that is the only way |
| 17:52.38 | carols | EmmHaych: orgs are absolutely forbidden from speaking with students about acceptance or rejection before the 27th |
| 17:52.39 | downey | meflin: flux capacitor |
| 17:52.50 | carols | i will remove the whole org from the program if they preannounce decisions |
| 17:52.50 | |Kev| | Lyude: You shouldn't copy/paste, you should refactor it into a common method/function, and call it from both applications :p |
| 17:52.52 | EmmHaych | cs_shadow: any numbers? |
| 17:53.02 | meflin | downey: imagine a CPU that has 2 states N0 and N0 |
| 17:53.04 | Lyude | |Kev|, tbh that's what I've been doing for most of it |
| 17:53.06 | EmmHaych | carols: I see. Sorry I'm new here :) |
| 17:53.06 | downey | EmmHaych: we have new proposals coming in every few minutes now |
| 17:53.15 | |Kev| | Lyude: This was, to be clear, a joke :) |
| 17:53.18 | downey | meflin: love it |
| 17:53.22 | Lyude | |Kev|, whoops |
| 17:53.23 | cs_shadow | EmmHaych: Lots of spam, thats only thing I can tell at this point of time |
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| 17:54.07 | JordiGH | carols: You get a lot of yelling at? |
| 17:54.11 | |Kev| | I don't mind saying that our number of proposals has increased approximately eight times over in the last 24 hours. |
| 17:54.12 | JordiGH | carols: Wow. |
| 17:54.14 | carols | JordiGH: yep |
| 17:54.20 | JordiGH | carols: I mean, wow that you can manage that. |
| 17:54.25 | carols | JordiGH: theyâre not angry at me, really. theyâre angry at themselves. |
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| 17:54.29 | carols | but they take it out on me, |
| 17:54.38 | JordiGH | Theo de Raadt yelled me after just two emails. And I thought I was being so polite. |
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| 17:54.49 | JordiGH | *at me |
| 17:55.27 | EmmHaych | carols, downey, cs_shadow: ya'll google employees? or just managing GSOC? |
| 17:55.35 | JordiGH | carols: But I am still and forever impressed that you're able to do this job. |
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| 17:55.51 | cs_shadow | I'm just an org-admin for Drupal |
| 17:56.00 | JordiGH | It's like being the sole tech support rep who handles thousands of calls from angry customers. |
| 17:56.00 | carols | EmmHaych: iâm a google employee. |
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| 17:56.18 | carols | JordiGH: thanks. yep, the mentors and the students all yell at varying points of the program for different reasons |
| 17:56.39 | EmmHaych | Sweet! |
| 17:57.39 | shashank19gaurav | we only have to upload the proposal in my dashboard section right? Is there anything else required? |
| 17:58.18 | decltypeme | yes, celebrate submitting :D **I am not a mentor** |
| 17:58.31 | carols | shashank19gaurav: whatever the org wants. you should speak to them |
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| 17:59.12 | Corey84 | carols, is the lovely lady on the main page's video for gsoc |
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| 17:59.15 | shashank19gaurav | carols: i mean officially we only to have to upload there right? |
| 17:59.18 | Corey84 | one of them at least |
| 17:59.23 | carols | Corey84: iâd appreciate you not using that tone about me. |
| 17:59.32 | carols | Corey84: this is a professional program |
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| 17:59.54 | Corey84 | wasn't meant as such but noted |
| 18:00.13 | carols | Corey84: thanks |
| 18:00.18 | JordiGH | What video? |
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| 18:00.53 | Corey84 | the one on the main login page that is labeled " what is Google summer of code" unless the name was changed this year |
| 18:00.55 | JordiGH | Oh, this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVnN34YGz8s |
| 18:01.05 | Corey84 | yea |
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| 18:01.11 | swook | hmm if I gave a talk on GSoC in the past... is that worth mentioning on my proposal? |
| 18:01.14 | swook | To show dedication |
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| 18:01.26 | carols | swook: what does the org say? |
| 18:01.29 | swook | It's not relevant to the proposed project obviously |
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| 18:02.02 | JordiGH | swook: I personally wouldn't be impressed by that, especially if it's not relevant. |
| 18:02.10 | JordiGH | But I'm old and cranky. |
| 18:02.16 | swook | JordiGH: yeah, I guess so too |
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| 18:02.20 | swook | not the second part :P |
| 18:02.21 | EmmHaych | I have added an image in my proposal. I am hosting it on pasteboard.co but everytime I try and insert the link (*.png) the resulting image isn't displayed and has a broken picture icon. (I can provide screenshots/links in private chat if needed) |
| 18:04.34 | Corey84 | EmmHaych, using full url path ? |
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| 18:04.44 | geekgrl | how to add image in proposal ? |
| 18:05.00 | gedare | swook: it's worth mentioning if there is a section in the proposal about open source participation or outreach. |
| 18:05.09 | carols | geekgrl: just include a url to it |
| 18:05.27 | geekgrl | Its on my local machine |
| 18:05.35 | swook | gedare: thanks. In my case there's no set template and it's quite an academic org so I'll omit it. |
| 18:05.41 | EmmHaych | Corey84: Yes. I went into the source of the proposal and everything seemed okay with the HTML img line. I hosted it onto another website and it works now. |
| 18:05.43 | gedare | geekgrl: you'll have to use a file hosting service |
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| 18:06.08 | EmmHaych | geekgrl: http://postimg.org/ works for me |
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| 18:06.42 | geekgrl | Thanks gedare and EmmHaych .. Let me try :) |
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| 18:08.04 | drktrx | if the org chooses is it possible to have the proposals still editable after the deadline? |
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| 18:08.38 | carols | drktrx: if the org choose to, yes. |
| 18:08.43 | carols | but please donât assume they will |
| 18:08.49 | carols | your proposal should be complete before the deadline |
| 18:08.55 | carols | most orgs donât allow modifications |
| 18:09.12 | drktrx | yes okay |
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| 18:12.12 | darnir | Darn, the number of proposals to our org nearly tripled in the last day |
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| 18:13.08 | dfighter | darnir, wow |
| 18:13.58 | darnir | Doesn't count for much. We need to trash most of them. |
| 18:14.21 | Niharika | Same here... |
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| 18:15.35 | |Kev| | 17:56 <@carols> JordiGH: thanks. yep, the mentors and the students all yell at varying points of the program for different reasons |
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| 18:15.48 | |Kev| | I'm genuinely sorry if we give that impression. Your work is certainly appreciated. |
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| 18:16.02 | carols | |Kev|: well, thank you. i appreciate that. |
| 18:16.28 | felshaarawy | hi world |
| 18:16.34 | carols | hi felshaarawy |
| 18:16.48 | felshaarawy | i have a qestion |
| 18:16.59 | carols | sure |
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| 18:17.45 | felshaarawy | it's 40min remining for the dead line |
| 18:17.51 | carols | indeed it is. |
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| 18:18.03 | felshaarawy | what after that ? |
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| 18:18.12 | carols | a lot of talking and reading. |
| 18:18.17 | meflin | a lot of work on the org side to choose students |
| 18:18.17 | carols | and the worls keeps turning. |
| 18:18.21 | carols | *world |
| 18:18.32 | manavmittl | hello guys i had a question |
| 18:18.34 | esornep | MechCoder |
| 18:18.46 | carols | manavmittl: iâm not a guy, but iâm happy to try to answer it. |
| 18:18.50 | manavmittl | will i b able to view other applications after the application period? |
| 18:19.01 | carols | manavmittl: other applications of your own? |
| 18:19.07 | manavmittl | no no i mean |
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| 18:19.19 | manavmittl | other people who have applied for the same or |
| 18:19.23 | carols | manavmittl: no |
| 18:19.23 | manavmittl | org* |
| 18:19.53 | felshaarawy | ok thank you carols but how can i know that my proposel accepted ?? |
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| 18:20.04 | carols | felshaarawy: youâll receive an email on 27 april |
| 18:20.11 | carols | indicating acceptance or rejection |
| 18:20.15 | manavmittl | okay thank u. So why was that visibility option asked for? |
| 18:20.33 | carols | manavmittl: students can choose who they want it to be visible to |
| 18:20.34 | manavmittl | Just asking :D |
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| 18:20.48 | manavmittl | okay great got it :) |
| 18:20.51 | felshaarawy | ok after a month from now thank you very much your are very generous |
| 18:20.52 | manavmittl | Thanks |
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| 18:21.05 | carols | felshaarawy: sure, happy to help |
| 18:21.09 | canis | carols: I really admire you having so much patience to repeatedly answer the same questions by so many people |
| 18:21.19 | carols | canis: thanks |
| 18:22.03 | meflin | I would crack in a week :) |
| 18:22.12 | manavmittl | carols: Great Job :D |
| 18:22.13 | carols | thanks |
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| 18:24.28 | downey | Hi carols. If we receive proposals that aren't complete or otherwise invalid, is it OK to use the "ignore" option for that, since it notifies the student? |
| 18:24.52 | carols | downey: sure |
| 18:24.57 | downey | carols: OK thanks :-) |
| 18:25.09 | carols | yw |
| 18:25.32 | |Kev| | I've not been doing so, FWIW, just 1starring them. I've been worried that they might be part-complete and the student hasn't realise we can see them before the deadline. I'll be more inclined to use Ignore in 35mins. |
| 18:25.41 | |Kev| | *realised |
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| 18:26.36 | swook | |Kev|: It clearly says "submit proposal" though. Surely most students realise it's viewable. |
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| 18:26.54 | NikolaiToryzin | |Kev|, To be fair, it doesn't feel like it's a final submitted thing |
| 18:26.55 | |Kev| | swook: The questions I've seen in here suggest otherwise. |
| 18:27.55 | swook | Hmm, just for reference, I tend to work on my proposal on another medium (Google Docs) then make a final update to the version on melange. |
| 18:27.58 | |Kev| | Plus, even if they know we can read it, they know they can edit until the deadline, so not discounting anything that's not obviously spam until the deadline seems a reasonable approach. Others may reasonably feel differently of course. |
| 18:28.11 | swook | Pre-mature flagging might affect people like me |
| 18:28.25 | NikolaiToryzin | swook, Remember, we can see melange revisions |
| 18:28.39 | swook | Yup, I'm aware |
| 18:28.40 | |Kev| | NikolaiToryzin: Yes, but presumably once it's ignored most mentors aren't going to bother looking at it. |
| 18:28.41 | canis | |Kev|: which organisation are you from? |
| 18:28.48 | |Kev| | canis: XMPP Standards Foundation. |
| 18:28.54 | darnir | I can't find that crucial Ignore option. Is it for admins only? |
| 18:29.00 | |Kev| | darnir: Yes. |
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| 18:29.03 | heller | We used melange extensively to give students feedback on their proposals |
| 18:29.06 | NikolaiToryzin | |Kev|, Ignored yes. |
| 18:29.13 | canis | is there anyone from KDE here? |
| 18:29.15 | heller | That worked very nicely |
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| 18:29.42 | darnir | |Kev|: Darn. But thanks anyways. I guess I'll just train my eyes to ignore them. |
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| 18:29.46 | blast007 | canis: KDE should have contact information on the org page |
| 18:29.46 | swook | canis: You could try pinging specific people on #kde-soc |
| 18:29.49 | carols | canis: the place youâd find KDE folks is in the KDE channel |
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| 18:31.57 | manyu | Hi, can we edit a proposal after the submission deadline? |
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| 18:32.05 | |Kev| | manyu: Assume not. |
| 18:32.18 | |Kev| | manyu: An org may allow it, but it's their discretion. |
| 18:32.19 | NikolaiToryzin | manyu, A org has to allow it |
| 18:32.51 | manyu | ok, thanks |
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| 18:39.34 | kagimub | hi. my mentor advised me to change something on my proposal. should i do so or since 20 minutes to go i leave things the way they are. thanks |
| 18:39.47 | meflin | you should |
| 18:39.53 | carols | kagimub: you should follow the directions from the org |
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| 18:39.59 | meflin | make sure you get the edits in on time |
| 18:40.10 | |Kev| | If the question is "Should I do what my org wants me to do?" it's hard to see how the answer can be anything other than 'yes'. |
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| 18:40.58 | kagimub | ok thank you |
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| 18:41.24 | NikolaiToryzin | carols, I know you're going to tell me to ask the melange folks, but any chance you know how often the proposal page updates? We're watching everything closely from our mentor channel |
| 18:41.44 | carols | NikolaiToryzin: no, i donât personally check that? |
| 18:41.49 | carols | is that what you mean? |
| 18:42.08 | NikolaiToryzin | Yeah, I think it's half an hour |
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| 18:42.54 | cardinot | "run forrest run" |
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| 18:43.18 | meflin | there is this thing called the refresh/reload button |
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| 18:43.38 | |Kev| | NikolaiToryzin: The data always seem to be available immediately for me when I refresh. |
| 18:43.44 | NikolaiToryzin | meflin, It doesn't actually look at new proposals |
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| 18:44.00 | Niharika | carols: Is there any rulebook available for what mentors/org admins are not allowed to do? For instance, if a student has not made his/her proposal public, can we quote it publicly? |
| 18:44.15 | Niharika | carols: Not divulging personal details, of course. |
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| 18:44.20 | NikolaiToryzin | My PROPOSALS UPDATED AT went from 6:11 to 6:41 out of the blue despite refresh and everything not updating |
| 18:44.23 | carols | Niharika: the former is the mentor manual, the answer to the latter is no |
| 18:44.36 | Niharika | carols: Okay, got it. |
| 18:44.50 | drktrx | @niharika: are you a mentor? which org for? |
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| 18:45.07 | Niharika | drktrx: I'm an org admin. |
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| 18:45.19 | drktrx | which org? |
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| 18:46.37 | canis | carols: I am worried if I did everything right. I submitted the proof of enrolment and then submitted one proposal. Is there anything more to be done? |
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| 18:46.50 | carols | canis: what does the org say? |
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| 18:47.11 | canis | carols: they reviewed my proposal and said its good. they didn't say anything else |
| 18:47.23 | carols | canis: great |
| 18:47.42 | carols | then have some tea :-) |
| 18:47.43 | ythej | do we need to wait for the comments on the proposal? |
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| 18:48.03 | canis | carols: so that is all right? I am technically done with all the formalities of submitting a proposal and all that, am I correct? |
| 18:48.07 | canis | does something remain? |
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| 18:48.19 | carols | canis: correct |
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| 18:48.38 | davydov_anton | Hello anybody! I have a question. Can I edit my proposal after deadline? |
| 18:48.53 | CFS-MP3 | cais I can't speak for all organizations but what we're are going to do is give "edit post deadline" privileges to students in our short list as well as send them really extensive feedback |
| 18:48.56 | carols | davydov_anton: by default, no. only if the org allows it. |
| 18:49.02 | darnir | Niharika: I forget the name of the lady who was admin before you. Haven't seen her around this time at all. |
| 18:49.37 | |Kev| | Leslie. |
| 18:49.39 | davydov_anton | carols: thanks! |
| 18:49.39 | Niharika | darnir: Sumana. She left the org last year sometime. |
| 18:49.43 | meflin | I have |
| 18:49.52 | carols | darnir: Niharika: you want to take it to a PM? |
| 18:49.56 | |Kev| | Sorry, I completely merged two lines and thought you were speaking to Carol. |
| 18:50.01 | Niharika | Whoops. Sorry. |
| 18:50.02 | |Kev| | Time to step away from IRC. |
| 18:50.03 | darnir | carols: Sure. |
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| 18:50.18 | carols | thanks |
| 18:50.45 | carols | would love it if she didnât have to mute the channel this year before the deadline :-) |
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| 18:51.11 | canis | keeps wondering if his proposal didn't disappear. I am getting paranoid. |
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| 18:51.29 | grossmj | 9 min left |
| 18:51.39 | carols | grossmj: no countdowns please |
| 18:51.44 | grossmj | sorry |
| 18:51.44 | carols | or i _will_ mute the channel |
| 18:52.17 | canis | is very anxious |
| 18:52.39 | carols | canis: have some tea. |
| 18:52.39 | carols | serves some tea |
| 18:52.42 | carols | nothing is happening today anyway |
| 18:52.48 | darnir | knows carols is _very_ serious about that threat. |
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| 18:54.06 | bond007 | carols: hey! my proposal contains images |
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| 18:54.29 | bond007 | which are hosted on external platforms |
| 18:54.29 | carols | bond007: cool! |
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| 18:54.41 | carols | i hope theyâre nice :-) |
| 18:54.54 | bond007 | so in case external platform service stops working.! |
| 18:54.55 | chitrank | I am not able to submit my proposal to the Melange site |
| 18:55.02 | bond007 | my propsal will look bland |
| 18:55.08 | NikolaiToryzin | bond007, They are served via https, I hope? |
| 18:55.09 | carols | chitrank: did you submit your proof of enrollment? |
| 18:55.13 | bond007 | yess! |
| 18:55.14 | chitrank | yes |
| 18:55.15 | meflin | whats wrong with bland? |
| 18:55.29 | carols | chitrank: so whatâs the problem? |
| 18:55.30 | bond007 | ah! i have explained some important things with images |
| 18:55.35 | NikolaiToryzin | Good, good |
| 18:55.49 | canis | chitrank: you got to hurry up |
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| 18:56.08 | bond007 | should I mention in proposal , that if images are not being displayed properly , download this pdf? |
| 18:56.20 | carols | bond007: sure, why not? |
| 18:56.22 | kagimub | i changed my appication and i hope i make it. Thank you community and Madam Carol for everything |
| 18:56.27 | bond007 | okey! thanks |
| 18:56.48 | chitrank | when I go to dashboard I get to see the option proposals and when I click that I get to see the message please drag proposals to order them |
| 18:56.52 | kagimub | i am proud of you |
| 18:56.59 | Rish | carols: hi |
| 18:57.04 | carols | Rish: hi |
| 18:57.09 | dhanraj_mob | Rish: hi |
| 18:57.11 | decltypeme | count down so? |
| 18:57.21 | chitrank | When I am dragging the proposals it gets downloaded back to my own local system |
| 18:57.31 | carols | decltypeme: no countdowns. |
| 18:57.34 | kagimub | carols: thank you |
| 18:57.39 | carols | kagimub: yw |
| 18:57.42 | Rish | carols: atlast I submitted the proposal..now its upon my mentors |
| 18:57.45 | Rish | dhanraj_mob: hi |
| 18:57.52 | carols | Rish: okay |
| 18:57.52 | Robert_S | Countdowns are fun! |
| 18:58.03 | meflin | :P |
| 18:58.03 | downey | o.O |
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| 18:58.12 | Rish | carols: end to my wierd questions |
| 18:58.15 | bond007 | NikolaiToryzin: nopes I just noticed , it is being served with http:// |
| 18:58.18 | swook | does the ordering of proposals change anything? |
| 18:58.25 | meflin | no |
| 18:58.36 | decltypeme | carols: it depends on the org :D |
| 18:58.39 | swook | then why is it possible? |
| 18:58.55 | NikolaiToryzin | bond007, Hopefully it ins't an issue, but serving insecure images on https sites can sometimes cause warnings or not show |
| 18:59.16 | chitrank | Isn't there a way to specify my github wiki of the GSoC application on the melange or we need to submit on melange only |
| 18:59.17 | NikolaiToryzin | It's mostly an issue with css/js, but images at the very least will warn |
| 18:59.20 | meflin | swook: no idea I didn't write the software that is melange |
| 18:59.22 | CFS-MP3 | for us any proposal that arrives today with no prior contact is spam. Don't bother. |
| 18:59.32 | ythej | do I need to really for comments on my proposal ? |
| 18:59.32 | canis | carols: I just wanted to make sure that there is a difference in the date formats in India and USA. India uses DD/MM/YYYY format and USA uses MM/DD/YYYY format. So I hope my proof of enrolment date is judged accordingly |
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| 18:59.39 | bond007 | NikolaiToryzin: ah! no time now! I wish there was a warning saying the same in the editor |
| 18:59.42 | Valodim | man four proposals in the last four minutes |
| 18:59.44 | carols | canis: it will be |
| 18:59.51 | Valodim | when's the deadline? |
| 18:59.59 | carols | Valodim: now |
| 18:59.59 | bond007 | in a few minutes |
| 19:00.00 | EmmHaych | Valodim: in 30 secs |
| 19:00.05 | Valodim | ah, that explains it |
| 19:00.14 | dfighter | so who is gonna ask for an extension first? |
| 19:00.15 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> Student participants for this yearâs Google Summer of Code will be announced on 27 April at 19:00 UTC | For more information about GSoC please visit google-melange.com. |
| 19:00.22 | dfighter | place your bets on the first character of the nick |
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| 19:00.25 | carols | !forget next |
| 19:00.25 | dfighter | :P |
| 19:00.26 | gsocbot | carols: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:00.34 | |Kev| | Right, time to go check the final board :) |
| 19:00.35 | Retroid | Congratulations everyone! |
| 19:00.39 | drktrx | !next |
| 19:00.40 | gsocbot | drktrx: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
| 19:00.41 | dhanraj_mob | Ya |
| 19:00.43 | carols | !learn next as GSoC 2015 students will be announced on 27 April at 19:00 UTC |
| 19:00.43 | gsocbot | carols: "next" is GSoC 2015 students will be announced on 27 April at 19:00 UTC |
| 19:00.49 | ivucica | hooray! |
| 19:00.54 | EmmHaych | carols: Any numbers? Would be nice to hear total application count :) |
| 19:00.57 | darnir | notes carols didn't have to mute the channel. Yay us! |
| 19:01.00 | Retroid | I'm really excited for this summer! |
| 19:01.05 | shobi_05 | Waiting for 27 April..!! |
| 19:01.08 | carols | EmmHaych: give me likeâ¦maybe a minute? |
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| 19:01.13 | carols | because, you know, iâm a person :-) |
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| 19:01.16 | carols | not a computer |
| 19:01.17 | EmmHaych | carols: Sweet. Waiting :) |
| 19:01.21 | drktrx | great. congrats to everyone who applied. i personally learnt a lot during the last few weeks. |
| 19:01.22 | Rish | :P |
| 19:01.32 | kagimub | :-) |
| 19:01.40 | shobi_05 | :-D |
| 19:01.40 | decltypeme | !next |
| 19:01.41 | gsocbot | decltypeme: "next" is GSoC 2015 students will be announced on 27 April at 19:00 UTC |
| 19:01.56 | chitrank | What's wrong with melange my proposal is not getting upload why ? |
| 19:02.03 | chitrank | I am simply dragging the proposal |
| 19:02.08 | canis | carols: if the proof of enrolment is not right then melange would write to me right? I won't be disqualified for that? |
| 19:02.09 | fnirc | it's gone bro |
| 19:02.13 | EmmHaych | chitrank: I believe the deadline has passed. |
| 19:02.14 | sttaylor_ | too late deadline has passed |
| 19:02.17 | carols | canis: no, you wonât be disqualified. |
| 19:02.25 | chitrank | even tried three formats, pdf, odt and docx but still no response |
| 19:02.28 | NikolaiToryzin | bond007, It's an http warning, but in most cases it whould work |
| 19:02.40 | Retroid | why do you need it in a format? |
| 19:02.41 | chitrank | @EmmHaych I am trying since last 10 minutes |
| 19:02.43 | bond007 | okey! cool |
| 19:02.44 | Retroid | you just need to paste the text |
| 19:02.49 | fnirc | thanks @carols, I had the same question, I submitted a letter from my university in the hope that it suffices |
| 19:03.02 | carols | fnirc: weâll let you know if it doesnât |
| 19:03.02 | canis | chitrank: good luck for next year now |
| 19:03.24 | carols | !numapps |
| 19:03.24 | gsocbot | carols: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 19:03.33 | sttaylor_ | chitrank: sorry you are too late. the deadline has passed and there are no exceptions. please try again next year and submit at least a day before the deadline to be safe |
| 19:04.07 | Retroid | even though you won't be able to work through GSOC, there is no reason you can't contribute to an open source project :D |
| 19:04.09 | decltypeme | is there a list for the bot commands? |
| 19:04.29 | Retroid | most of us on here wont get into GSOC anyways, and I hope people still will contribute |
| 19:04.29 | akshayrk95 | It was great/hard time. Thanks carols and everyone else, discussion on this channel was quite helpful. |
| 19:04.29 | fnirc | !help |
| 19:04.29 | gsocbot | fnirc: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
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| 19:04.49 | meflin | play with the bot in PM |
| 19:04.56 | EmmHaych | Wow! Those numebrs are huge :). I hope I can stand out :). |
| 19:05.00 | EmmHaych | carols: Thanks a lot for the support! |
| 19:05.01 | fnirc | !autoapprove fnirc |
| 19:05.05 | carols | yw |
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| 19:05.11 | EmmHaych | fnirc: Nice try :). |
| 19:05.13 | carols | fnirc: take it to a PM. |
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| 19:05.33 | Rish | carols: by the way I am getting the edit option |
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| 19:05.42 | Rish | editing for proposal |
| 19:05.45 | carols | Rish:okay |
| 19:05.48 | drktrx | that is because the org has allowed it |
| 19:06.02 | drktrx | i applied to two orgs. one proposal is editable the other is not |
| 19:06.20 | Rish | drktrx: ya i know..yesterday carols asked me to tell if I get that option so I was saying |
| 19:06.28 | bond007 | drktrx: report the bug in isse tracker :P |
| 19:06.29 | drktrx | ok |
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| 19:06.44 | haaappy | Hello |
| 19:06.44 | drktrx | lol. it is not a bug. |
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| 19:06.49 | meflin | its not a bug drktrx |
| 19:07.04 | EmmHaych | haaappy: Hi! :) |
| 19:07.06 | Retroid | I'm just checking, but there is nothing else to do until the 27th, except any personal things you might want to do (reach out, etc) |
| 19:07.19 | drktrx | yes. solve more bugs if youd like |
| 19:07.21 | NikolaiToryzin | Retroid, Get in contact with your org if you haven't |
| 19:07.21 | carols | !forget numapps |
| 19:07.21 | gsocbot | carols: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:07.25 | shobi_05 | modification to proposal is possible but it depends on which organization you are applying..!! |
| 19:07.32 | carols | !learn numapps as 2015: 6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 19:07.33 | gsocbot | carols: "numapps" is 2015: 6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 19:07.51 | Retroid | alright, thanks everyone |
| 19:07.52 | EmmHaych | 6409 props :) |
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| 19:07.56 | garvitdelhi | thats a huge number |
| 19:08.00 | haaappy | !apps |
| 19:08.00 | gsocbot | haaappy: "apps" is see !numapps |
| 19:08.04 | decltypeme | 137/416 orgs, what does that mean? |
| 19:08.04 | meflin | normal |
| 19:08.14 | haaappy | !numapps |
| 19:08.14 | gsocbot | haaappy: "numapps" is 2015: 6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 19:08.21 | carols | haaappy: please take it to a PM |
| 19:08.22 | meflin | decltypeme: 137 accepted out of 415 apps |
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| 19:08.26 | EmmHaych | carols: What are the number of props that are going to be accepted? Or is that number tentative? |
| 19:08.28 | haaappy | Ok, sorry |
| 19:08.29 | decltypeme | aah oki |
| 19:08.37 | carols | EmmHaych: iâll tell you that on 27 april. |
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| 19:08.43 | EmmHaych | hahaha :) |
| 19:09.50 | EmmHaych | !learn greeting as hi |
| 19:09.51 | gsocbot | EmmHaych: "greeting" is hi |
| 19:09.53 | CFS-MP3 | that's an average of 46 proposals per org... lots of work ahead |
| 19:09.54 | EmmHaych | !greeting |
| 19:09.54 | gsocbot | EmmHaych: "greeting" is hi |
| 19:10.10 | EmmHaych | !forget greeting |
| 19:10.11 | gsocbot | EmmHaych: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:10.23 | meflin | EmmHaych: play with the bot in PM |
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| 19:10.34 | EmmHaych | Apologies. Newbie mistakes :) |
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| 19:11.20 | ramya | uhm, so now that proposals have been submitted, is there a way to still edit them? |
| 19:11.32 | EmmHaych | !numapps |
| 19:11.32 | gsocbot | EmmHaych: "numapps" is 2015: 6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 19:11.36 | carols | ramya: only if the org applows it |
| 19:11.46 | carols | EmmHaych: one more time and iâll kick you |
| 19:11.47 | ramya | ok... |
| 19:11.53 | NikolaiToryzin | CFS-MP3, Scary enough we're way above average again. Last year was a challenge finding proposals to accept but this year is even more |
| 19:11.58 | carols | EmmHaych: youâve been warned to use the bot in a PM. |
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| 19:12.27 | Retroid | You can pm the bot with the /msg command |
| 19:12.39 | ramya | what do you mean way above average, @NikolaiToryzin ? |
| 19:12.44 | CFS-MP3 | NikolaiToryzin what's your org? We're way below average (we got 28 I think) and we definitely have more good proposals than expected slots |
| 19:12.57 | ramya | oh uhm i was interested in Cern |
| 19:12.59 | ramya | cern sft |
| 19:13.02 | ramya | you? |
| 19:13.22 | NikolaiToryzin | CFS-MP3, Tox Foundation. I'll message you the number because we don't say it in public so people don't get discouraged until accepted |
| 19:13.27 | EmmHaych | Retroid: thanks |
| 19:13.29 | ramya | @NikolaiToryzin, which organization were you looking at? |
| 19:13.33 | NikolaiToryzin | ramya, The number of applicants |
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| 19:13.38 | NikolaiToryzin | ramya, I'm an org admin. |
| 19:13.43 | ramya | oh sorry |
| 19:13.47 | ramya | my apologies..... |
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| 19:14.36 | ramya | but yea, the number of applicants....? |
| 19:14.54 | carols | ramya: 4425 |
| 19:15.07 | ramya | ooof ok...... |
| 19:15.31 | ramya | so what exactly ends up distinguishing the really good ones from the good ones? |
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| 19:15.52 | carols | ramya: the students who have already contributed to the orgs and given the orgs the criteria they asked for |
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| 19:16.02 | dss | can i not submit a proposal now? |
| 19:16.03 | breton | so, no more applications? |
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| 19:16.10 | breton | cool |
| 19:16.21 | ramya | hm, ok, like aready contributed source code, ok |
| 19:16.22 | carols | dss: nope |
| 19:16.46 | decltypeme | carols: They asked a negative question :D |
| 19:16.52 | carols | decltypeme: yep |
| 19:16.53 | dss | by no means at all? |
| 19:16.55 | gedare | ramya: you can contribute to open source projects in more ways than source code. doc, mailing list participation, wiki improvements.. |
| 19:17.08 | carols | dss: by no means at all. |
| 19:17.11 | ramya | ok, alright |
| 19:17.22 | dss | ok. |
| 19:17.24 | ramya | is it still possible to contribute? |
| 19:17.34 | ramya | after submitting the proposals |
| 19:17.34 | haaappy | \join #eclipse-gsoc |
| 19:17.35 | carols | ramya: itâs always possible to contribute to open source |
| 19:17.35 | gedare | ramya: you can contribute to most projects year-round, for free! |
| 19:17.39 | carols | you donât need gsoc to do that |
| 19:17.44 | ramya | mk |
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| 19:18.01 | ramya | how many slots do orgs typically have? |
| 19:18.05 | teepee | oh, poor melange, still sending out "new proposal messages" |
| 19:18.10 | gedare | ramya: one or more. |
| 19:18.20 | ramya | mk |
| 19:18.24 | decltypeme | How do we see public proposals if any/ |
| 19:18.25 | decltypeme | ? |
| 19:18.39 | carols | decltypeme: you go to the url the student provides you |
| 19:18.54 | amitoj | GUYS I HAD CERTIFICATE ERROR WHILE SUBMITTING.. now time is up. how can i submit?? Please Help :(( |
| 19:19.04 | carols | amitoj: why did you wait until today? :-( |
| 19:19.08 | amitoj | i already have proposal ready with me |
| 19:19.10 | sttaylor_ | amitoj: you canât, it is too late |
| 19:19.18 | carols | we could have helped you if you had tried thisâ¦sayâ¦two days ago |
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| 19:19.35 | ramya | is it necesaary to have sample code in the proposal? |
| 19:19.43 | carols | ramya: does the org require it? |
| 19:19.45 | Retroid | id imagine it helps |
| 19:20.02 | ramya | no....but he said i could put it in if i wanted to...? |
| 19:20.06 | ramya | mk... |
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| 19:20.09 | carols | ramya: then thatâs the answer |
| 19:20.17 | ramya | thanks... |
| 19:20.19 | carols | yw |
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| 19:20.40 | ramya | which orgs tend to be the most competetive? |
| 19:20.53 | carols | ramya: thatâs not a question we can answer |
| 19:20.58 | ramya | ah ok |
| 19:21.00 | d4r3topk1 | carols: There is a query from someone, that he missed the registration by a minute or so. And asking what can be done. |
| 19:21.10 | carols | d4r3topk1: nothing can be done |
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| 19:21.21 | carols | heâs forced me into a difficult position since he waited until the last minute |
| 19:21.29 | carols | i canât help people who donât help themselves first |
| 19:21.36 | sttaylor_ | deadlines are deadlines for a reason |
| 19:21.41 | d4r3topk1 | I'll let him know. |
| 19:21.56 | amitoj | my mom passed away 3 days ago. |
| 19:21.58 | Retroid | Thank you carols for what you are doing, I'm sorry that there are a lot of people who don't understand deadlines :( |
| 19:22.03 | amitoj | at chandigarh |
| 19:22.07 | carols | amitoj: iâm so sorry to hear that. maybe you should try applying next year? |
| 19:22.14 | amitoj | i just returned home, and went ahead with proposal |
| 19:22.24 | amitoj | i drafted within last 4 hours. |
| 19:22.28 | carols | amitoj: it sounds like you could use some time to yourself. |
| 19:22.34 | carols | amitoj: maybe just try agin next year? |
| 19:22.44 | carols | iâd hate to have to do work after a relative passed away :-( |
| 19:23.02 | amitoj | i don't want to sit home, its gonna make me miss my mom even more |
| 19:23.09 | amitoj | i am ready to do anything possible |
| 19:23.16 | carols | amitoj: then you should go do whatever you need to do for yourself. |
| 19:23.41 | amitoj | any official mail for google melange? where i can try |
| 19:23.44 | amitoj | contacting |
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| 19:23.51 | decltypeme | amitoj: my condolonces |
| 19:23.58 | amitoj | i found one but it is related to some discussion groups |
| 19:24.02 | carols | amitoj: this is the official answer. |
| 19:24.05 | carols | iâm the program admin. |
| 19:24.10 | carols | the buck stops with me. |
| 19:24.21 | carols | amitoj: i am terribly sorry to hear about your mom. |
| 19:24.27 | amitoj | ohh, sorry.. didn't knew that |
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| 19:24.41 | d4r3topk1 | Thats a stylish line. |
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| 19:25.04 | amitoj | thanks for the condolences. |
| 19:25.05 | ramya | is this channel mostly made up of org administrators? |
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| 19:25.11 | carols | ramya: no |
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| 19:25.14 | carols | itâs all sorts. |
| 19:25.27 | ramya | interesting |
| 19:25.28 | carols | itâs a community of many different people. |
| 19:25.34 | krakrjak_ | So I tried to submit my proposal. Initially it was rejected due to the Abstract being too long. I took 45 seconds to edit it and by the time I submitted again the window had closed (about 2 seconds late). |
| 19:25.42 | carols | krakrjak_: that sucks. |
| 19:25.43 | krakrjak_ | Is there any way to submit? |
| 19:25.47 | carols | krakrjak_: nope |
| 19:25.53 | downey | krakrjak_: try a week earlier? :) |
| 19:26.01 | krakrjak_ | would have been nice wouldn't it. |
| 19:26.07 | kwikadi | oof, tough luck |
| 19:26.13 | haaappy | krakrjak_ I was surprised by this limit three minutes before the deadline, too |
| 19:26.15 | Anandra | no way man better luck next time |
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| 19:26.28 | ramya | uhm @carols, is it tacky to include edits to proposals (like,....typos....one that i just found) in the comments section....? |
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| 19:26.37 | carols | ramya: thatâs up to the org |
| 19:26.39 | carols | you should ask them |
| 19:26.46 | ramya | mk thanks... |
| 19:26.49 | krakrjak_ | So as a suggestion. If one input box has a limit, maybe alert the author they are over the limit BEFORE submission? |
| 19:26.50 | _blackbox | I came with a similar query , missed my proposal too. useless to ask if anything can be done. Will try next year if I am eligible. |
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| 19:27.39 | mr | krakrjak_: how about being better prepared for next time and not land up a few minutes before deadline? |
| 19:28.01 | carols | _blackbox: you can always contribute to open source any time you want! |
| 19:28.01 | carols | you donât need gsoc to do so |
| 19:28.05 | krakrjak_ | mr, good advice. I wish my schedule was as flexible as the one you are suggesting. |
| 19:28.07 | carols | we encourage you to become a developer regardless |
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| 19:28.28 | Anandra | yes u can go to the orgs idea page and the cheeck out if there is something because Sugarlabs had offline proposals too @kwikadi |
| 19:28.46 | |Kev| | krakrjak_: It's open source, feel free to send a patch. |
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| 19:29.04 | |Kev| | (it = Melange) |
| 19:29.07 | mr | krakrjak_: which org did you apply for? |
| 19:29.12 | krakrjak_ | I might have to do that. |
| 19:29.15 | krakrjak_ | Haskell.org |
| 19:30.42 | AbhToChill | when will results be coming out? |
| 19:30.45 | Rish | how to know how many applications did a particular org receive |
| 19:30.46 | Rish | ? |
| 19:30.52 | carols | AbhToChill: 27 april |
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| 19:30.57 | carols | Rish: ask them |
| 19:31.04 | carols | and then they can choose whether they tell you or not |
| 19:31.07 | CFS-MP3 | carols is it OK to disclose tha tinformation? |
| 19:31.09 | CFS-MP3 | good to know |
| 19:31.13 | Rish | hahahahaha |
| 19:31.15 | AbhToChill | thanks.. this is gonna be a longgg month |
| 19:31.22 | carols | CFS-MP3: if you want to, sure |
| 19:31.31 | carols | CFS-MP3: itâs also okay not to disclose if you donât want to. |
| 19:31.42 | CFS-MP3 | AbhToChill to orgs too. Last year I lost sleep over the number of slots vs good proposals |
| 19:31.43 | carols | CFS-MP3: just make sure everyone in the org is okay with it before you do it :-) |
| 19:31.50 | carols | not something you can un-say |
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| 19:32.23 | AbhToChill | CFS true that... Choosing few out of many options is superb hard... |
| 19:32.40 | AbhToChill | Choosing a pair of clothing from many good ones is hard lol and this is GSOC :P |
| 19:33.17 | CFS-MP3 | Anyway with the experience last year who can complain :-) We'll deal |
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| 19:34.14 | AbhToChill | wishes goodluck to all applicants and to buckle-up to all mentors |
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| 19:34.50 | |Kev| | This bit is much easier on the mentors than the last few weeks have been. |
| 19:35.04 | |Kev| | No more teaser tasks to review, no more student questions to answer etc. |
| 19:35.28 | AbhToChill | i thought selection would be harder ... as i am pretty sure u got loads of to review and compare |
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| 19:35.56 | |Kev| | Yep, but by this point I've already reviewed almost all our applications as they were submitted. |
| 19:36.03 | AbhToChill | oo cool |
| 19:36.12 | AbhToChill | what org? |
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| 19:36.19 | |Kev| | Because if there were changes to ask for, I wanted to do that before the deadline. |
| 19:36.23 | |Kev| | XMPP. |
| 19:36.24 | carols | AbhToChill: want to take it to a PM? |
| 19:36.30 | |Kev| | carols: Sorry. |
| 19:36.33 | AbhToChill | sure sorry carol |
| 19:36.35 | carols | np |
| 19:36.38 | carols | thanks |
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| 19:37.22 | CFS-MP3 | We're going to allow modifications and tweaks to the good proposals for another week |
| 19:37.56 | |Kev| | CFS-MP3: A little bit care is needed saying that, as it's already telling students that you've rejected them if they don't have the edit. |
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| 19:38.17 | CFS-MP3 | |Kev| well, same as ignore |
| 19:38.35 | jigyasa | No edits mean no selection ? :/ |
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| 19:38.38 | |Kev| | Fair point. |
| 19:38.39 | CFS-MP3 | To be honest I think many of them already know there's no way they're getting accepted (possibly by any org) |
| 19:38.50 | CFS-MP3 | jigyasa it depends on the org |
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| 19:39.07 | AbhToChill | cfsmp3 which org? |
| 19:39.07 | jigyasa | What if we have been told that the proposal looks prettygood or just fine ? |
| 19:39.08 | Rish | CFS-MP3: which is ur org? |
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| 19:39.21 | CFS-MP3 | What we are going to do is have a short list of students we'd love to accept if slots were unlimited, and work with those for another week |
| 19:39.24 | gedare | CFS-MP3: i think you over-estimate student hubris. |
| 19:39.29 | gedare | under-estimate? |
| 19:39.43 | CFS-MP3 | I don't see any point in asking students we are not going to accept to continue working on their proposals |
| 19:39.52 | CFS-MP3 | seems like a lack of respect |
| 19:40.02 | jigyasa | CFS-MP3: What if we have been told that the proposal looks prettygood or just fine ? |
| 19:40.19 | Rish | or quite good |
| 19:40.27 | CFS-MP3 | jigyasa again I can't comment for other orgs |
| 19:40.29 | Rish | these professional language confusses |
| 19:40.38 | jigyasa | Rish: I agree :/ |
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| 19:41.27 | Rish | jigyasa: in which org have u applied?? |
| 19:41.34 | jigyasa | FOSSASIA |
| 19:41.37 | jigyasa | Wbu Rish ? |
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| 19:43.16 | Valodim | carols: we have a proposal which was apparently meant for a different organization. am I right to assume the student is out of luck in this case? |
| 19:43.25 | carols | Valodim: correct |
| 19:43.28 | Valodim | ok |
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| 19:55.11 | Gimli05 | Hey fellas! |
| 19:55.14 | Gimli05 | !next |
| 19:55.16 | gsocbot | Gimli05: "next" is GSoC 2015 students will be announced on 27 April at 19:00 UTC |
| 19:55.25 | Gimli05 | Nice. |
| 19:56.13 | Gimli05 | What should i do, if the org where I want to join, does not have an IRC channel? |
| 19:56.22 | Gimli05 | Like. They do have one, but it's empty |
| 19:56.32 | carols | Gimli05: try communicating with them another way |
| 19:56.34 | carols | or just wait. |
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| 20:01.43 | dfighter | ...and suddenly the channel's died? |
| 20:01.52 | dfighter | interesting |
| 20:01.58 | alexmherrmann | It's a waiting game now |
| 20:01.58 | gevaerts | There are a few survivors |
| 20:02.17 | alexmherrmann | It's friday, it's social time! |
| 20:02.50 | gedare | sets slot allocation request, checks out for 3 weeks. |
| 20:03.01 | Retroid | I have an operating systems assignment due today :P |
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| 20:03.24 | AbhToChill | carols can u tell us how many are total slots? |
| 20:03.27 | gevaerts | alexmherrmann: some of us don't know what that means! |
| 20:03.30 | AbhToChill | for gosc2015 |
| 20:03.38 | Retroid | We wont know until the 27th |
| 20:03.47 | jarie | gevaerts: ahah |
| 20:03.49 | iptop | It most probably will be less than last year |
| 20:03.55 | dfighter | well my gf and I deferred socialization, in case of a late idea(s) for my proposal |
| 20:04.02 | gevaerts | iptop: interesting. Based on what? |
| 20:04.15 | dfighter | also we're ( the channel ) socializing right now :) |
| 20:04.18 | carols | AbhToChill: nope |
| 20:04.24 | carols | canât tell you something i donât know |
| 20:04.29 | AbhToChill | i figure it will be little more @iptop |
| 20:04.38 | AbhToChill | ohk carols thanks anyway |
| 20:04.45 | dfighter | carols, is there a specific algorithm to slot allocation? |
| 20:04.50 | iptop | Again. This year less number of orgs compared to last year. In that too , more number of new orgs. And new orgs dont get many |
| 20:04.56 | iptop | Hence. Lesser than last year |
| 20:05.06 | carols | dfighter: algorithm? besides the guidelines we publish publicly? |
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| 20:05.40 | dfighter | carols, algorithm yes, like I'm wondering how you decide how many slots you provide total, and how you allocate them to orgs |
| 20:06.07 | dfighter | total slots is probably a function of funding, but there has to be other factors as well |
| 20:06.11 | gevaerts | iptop: my own speculation disregards all of that in favour of a push towards umbrella organisations |
| 20:06.12 | carols | dfighter: have you read the notes on slots allocation? |
| 20:06.15 | meflin | zero is a nice round number and easy to compute |
| 20:06.28 | olly | !slots |
| 20:06.28 | gsocbot | olly: "slots" is Slot allocation is done manually by OSPO, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask for. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2. https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/studentallocations |
| 20:06.49 | gedare | nice olly. |
| 20:06.50 | dfighter | carols, it seems I haven't, but then I am a student :) |
| 20:06.58 | carols | dfighter: well, anyone can read the doc. |
| 20:06.58 | Valodim | so many good proposals, so tempted to up the "min slots" number :3 |
| 20:07.05 | iptop | gevaerts : see. one or two |
| 20:07.07 | iptop | only |
| 20:07.08 | iptop | :( |
| 20:07.25 | dfighter | carols, that I know, I just haven't encountered it, but reading now :) |
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| 20:07.49 | meflin | Valodim: only if you have lots of mentors |
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| 20:08.15 | gevaerts | iptop: you seem to be ignoring the 75% of non-new organisations. Why? |
| 20:08.27 | alexmherrmann | gevaerts, Well if you're ever at the University of Utah we can hang out and be irl social! |
| 20:08.35 | AbhToChill | valodim what org |
| 20:08.48 | gevaerts | alexmherrmann: noted! :) |
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| 20:12.51 | crystalJ | Is there any chance that we can submit proposals late? Was not aware that the deadline was today at a certain time. |
| 20:13.12 | meflin | none |
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| 20:13.44 | carols | crystalJ: nope |
| 20:14.01 | alexmherrmann | crystalJ, did you get any proposal in? |
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| 20:14.44 | crystalJ | No, I had two of them prepared but just realized the deadline :( |
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| 20:15.04 | crystalJ | should have turned them in yesterday... |
| 20:15.34 | carols | yep |
| 20:15.37 | carols | have some tea |
| 20:15.39 | AbhToChill | that sucks.. but i guess better luck next time.. u can still send the ideas to org and maybe work independently with them? its open source afterall |
| 20:15.41 | carols | serves some tea |
| 20:16.12 | meflin | !tea |
| 20:16.12 | gsocbot | meflin: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax! |
| 20:16.31 | Gimli05 | Is there any document yet, which contains how many student proposed to an explicit org? |
| 20:16.42 | crystalJ | Yeah, not the end of the world, Will be more wary next year! |
| 20:16.44 | gevaerts | Gimli05: such a document has never existed |
| 20:16.46 | gedare | i don't think there every will be Gimli05 |
| 20:16.55 | Gimli05 | :D |
| 20:17.01 | Gimli05 | What a shame :D |
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| 20:17.26 | carols | Gimli05: you can just ask the org youâd like how many proposals they got |
| 20:17.38 | carols | and they can choose whether they want to tell you |
| 20:17.42 | |Kev| | And if they're mean like me, they'll not tell you :) |
| 20:18.02 | meflin | I got 15 and 193 :D |
| 20:18.03 | gevaerts | |Kev|: was it a positive integer? :) |
| 20:18.05 | Gimli05 | :D |
| 20:18.11 | Gimli05 | Thanks :D |
| 20:18.23 | |Kev| | gevaerts: Get out of my head. |
| 20:18.32 | Gimli05 | Maybe there is a mentor from Portland State University here (?) |
| 20:18.43 | |Kev| | Gimli05: Take that to their channels, rather than here. |
| 20:18.47 | meflin | why would you want a location :P |
| 20:18.48 | |Kev| | (Please) |
| 20:18.57 | Gimli05 | Yep, their IRC is empty. |
| 20:19.09 | gevaerts | |Kev|: but it's so comfy in there! |
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| 20:20.45 | Gimli05 | Well, it's dinner time. |
| 20:21.34 | Gimli05 | Bye, and may the odds be ever in your favor. |
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| 20:21.35 | AbhToChill | meflin u said u got 15 and 193 |
| 20:21.38 | alexmherrmann | Enjoy Gimli05 |
| 20:21.42 | AbhToChill | did u meant for two different projects? |
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| 20:22.20 | meflin | yes |
| 20:22.20 | spartan | My organisation doesnt have an irc :( |
| 20:22.22 | AbhToChill | what org are you from meflin? |
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| 20:22.33 | carols | spartan: we canât force them to use irc if they donât want to. |
| 20:22.41 | palash123 | where is the log for this channel ? |
| 20:22.49 | meflin | Python / Minnow (+syncdifferent) |
| 20:22.53 | manavmittl | spartan: which org? |
| 20:23.19 | spartan | :P I have been bugging them for quite some time now, as I wanted to talk to other contributors |
| 20:23.31 | gevaerts | !logs | palash123 |
| 20:23.31 | gsocbot | palash123: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 20:23.35 | spartan | manavmittl, TOP SECRET |
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| 20:24.46 | dasilvacontin | In GSoC's homepage it didn't say it closed at 19:00 |
| 20:24.52 | alexmherrmann | spartan, I didn't see the "top secret" organization |
| 20:24.54 | alexmherrmann | hehe |
| 20:25.03 | dfighter | dasilvacontin, It most certainly did |
| 20:25.06 | dfighter | there was even a countdown |
| 20:25.07 | dfighter | ... |
| 20:25.08 | dasilvacontin | really? hmm |
| 20:25.10 | carols | dasilvacontin: there was a countdown timer and everything! |
| 20:25.26 | dasilvacontin | When was that activated? |
| 20:25.32 | alexmherrmann | like months ago |
| 20:25.47 | dasilvacontin | here http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015 ? |
| 20:25.56 | carols | dasilvacontin: yep |
| 20:26.01 | AbhToChill | yes there was a countdown |
| 20:26.02 | carols | right in the program timeline box |
| 20:26.04 | alexmherrmann | yup, right there on the right hand side of the page |
| 20:26.11 | AbhToChill | and its still there its there since months |
| 20:26.17 | dasilvacontin | weird, my bad, I guess |
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| 20:26.21 | spartan | We almost had a countdown here as well, before carlos threatened us :P |
| 20:26.24 | dfighter | dasilvacontin, and the timer is there even now |
| 20:26.30 | dfighter | counting down to the next step |
| 20:26.30 | spartan | carols |
| 20:26.44 | dasilvacontin | you mean "3 weeks, 6 days remaining" ? |
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| 20:26.51 | dfighter | yes dasilvacontin |
| 20:26.58 | dasilvacontin | Oh, I meant the hour |
| 20:27.02 | dasilvacontin | I did know it closed today |
| 20:27.11 | carols | dasilvacontin: before it said that it was counting down to the student application deadline. |
| 20:27.11 | dasilvacontin | But I expected the typical 23:59 thing |
| 20:27.12 | dfighter | it had an hour and minute countdown too |
| 20:27.17 | dfighter | once it dropped below a day |
| 20:27.19 | carols | now itâs counting down to the next milestone |
| 20:27.26 | gevaerts | dasilvacontin: in which timezone would that have been? |
| 20:27.28 | dasilvacontin | Yeah, well, I haven't checked since a few days |
| 20:27.29 | alexmherrmann | I'm pretty sure it had hours and minutes... But I was pretty tired last night |
| 20:27.37 | alexmherrmann | I could be remembering wrong |
| 20:27.47 | dasilvacontin | @gevaerts in the most conveninent one ^^ |
| 20:27.51 | teepee | yes, it had hours and minutes |
| 20:27.52 | dfighter | dasilvacontin, also the timeline states specifically the exact times |
| 20:28.04 | dasilvacontin | Yeah, sorry, I didn't see it |
| 20:28.11 | dasilvacontin | I'm not the only one who got left out |
| 20:28.17 | alexmherrmann | Yeah a few others did too |
| 20:28.23 | dasilvacontin | I bet |
| 20:28.27 | carols | every year i do my utmost to get people to pay attention to the deadlines |
| 20:28.31 | carols | and every year people ignore them |
| 20:28.35 | carols | i donât know what more i can do :-( |
| 20:28.49 | alexmherrmann | nothing really |
| 20:28.54 | carols | twitter, g+, on melange, two emails⦠|
| 20:28.57 | |Kev| | carols: You could have sent out 48 hour and 24 hour email warnings. No wait, you did that. |
| 20:29.09 | carols | |Kev|: it just doesnât seem to matter :-( |
| 20:29.10 | ivucica | carols: just continue being as strict as you are ;) |
| 20:29.18 | dasilvacontin | anyways |
| 20:29.32 | spartan | Not everyone @carols , I was sitting there watching it all the time :) |
| 20:29.33 | AbhToChill | i have all my gsoc deadlines on my phone reminders |
| 20:29.37 | dasilvacontin | is there any way I could submit a proposal now? |
| 20:29.42 | carols | dasilvacontin: no |
| 20:29.46 | dasilvacontin | okay |
| 20:29.49 | dasilvacontin | I had to try |
| 20:29.50 | ivucica | dasilvacontin: no. next year |
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| 20:30.06 | ivucica | you can of course still contribute to the project you wanted to contribute to ;) |
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| 20:30.34 | dasilvacontin | yeah, I know, but now I'll have to work more time on other stuff to pay rent |
| 20:31.10 | dasilvacontin | I was looking forward to contribute to that one anyways |
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| 20:31.47 | dasilvacontin | well, thanks for the info, cheers! :) |
| 20:32.06 | carols | cheers |
| 20:32.31 | grossmj | I couldn't find a clear answer (FAQ). How Google decide what students are accepted (provided they have a mentor)? |
| 20:32.38 | carols | grossmj: google doesnât decide |
| 20:32.48 | carols | thatâs why you couldnât find a faq on it |
| 20:33.04 | grossmj | Makes sense then ;) |
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| 20:33.26 | alexmherrmann | I like that google defers to the organization |
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| 20:34.40 | carols | alexmherrmann: i most certainly do not want to have to review over 6,000 proposals :-) |
| 20:34.50 | carols | reviewing all the org apps is bad enough as it is |
| 20:34.54 | carols | and thereâs only hundreds of those |
| 20:35.03 | alexmherrmann | How many orgs applied? Do you have it on hand? |
| 20:35.09 | carols | !numapps |
| 20:35.09 | gsocbot | carols: "numapps" is 2015: 6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 20:35.18 | carols | alexmherrmann: â^ |
| 20:35.52 | bepolite | !stats |
| 20:35.52 | gsocbot | bepolite: I have 3 registered users with 3 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 20:36.28 | breton | wow |
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| 20:36.45 | breton | fewer orgs than last year |
| 20:37.17 | alexmherrmann | thanks carols |
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| 20:57.42 | astoy | Good evening. Could I talk with somebody about a missed deadline? |
| 20:58.12 | dfighter | yes |
| 20:58.12 | meflin | there are exceptions |
| 20:58.20 | downey | !exceptions | meflin |
| 20:58.20 | gsocbot | meflin: "exceptions" is There will be no exceptions. No exceptions. |
| 20:58.24 | meflin | so you may talk .. but the results remains the same |
| 20:58.27 | dfighter | but talking won't get you an exception |
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| 20:59.06 | astoy | Ok, I guess I will try nevertheless. |
| 20:59.43 | dfighter | try what? |
| 21:00.00 | carols | astoy: what would you like to try? |
| 21:00.10 | sttaylor_ | astoy: there isnât anyone to talk to as it is not possible to submit a proposal after the deadline - ever. |
| 21:00.11 | astoy | I am writing you to ask about missed deadline. I would like to, if |
| 21:00.11 | astoy | possible, still submit my proposal (just one) even if I've missed the |
| 21:00.11 | astoy | submission deadline. |
| 21:00.11 | astoy | First, I have to admit that it is entirely my fault. I thought the |
| 21:00.11 | astoy | deadline was at 23:59 UTC and not 19:00 UTC. |
| 21:00.12 | astoy | Second, my proposal is complete and the only thing left is to send it. |
| 21:00.13 | astoy | Third, I've already talked with the project mentors and they know I |
| 21:00.13 | astoy | would like to apply for the project. |
| 21:00.13 | astoy | Fourth, I've invested a considerable amount of work into the proposal |
| 21:00.13 | astoy | (I had to do a programming task and to familirize myself with some |
| 21:00.13 | astoy | concepts and technologies). |
| 21:00.14 | astoy | I'm really really sorry for missing the deadline. And since I've |
| 21:00.14 | astoy | already completed the proposal, is there a chance to still submit it? |
| 21:00.17 | Seun_Droid | Welp, GG Gsoc |
| 21:00.20 | carols | astoy: no |
| 21:00.39 | astoy | Well, worth the try. |
| 21:01.00 | meflin | lets not past dump into this chan |
| 21:01.41 | downey | astoy: Why did you wait until the last minute? You had 2 weeks. |
| 21:03.25 | dfighter | that's a solid reasoning |
| 21:03.26 | downey | If there were exceptions, wouldn't it be called a "lifeline"? |
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| 21:03.52 | Robert_S | downey: I'd like to ask the audience. |
| 21:03.54 | AbhToChill | the only possible reason that would even sound reasonable is that he was completing a teaser by org... this time most of the orgs had this condition to complete a task or have earlier contributed to that org... no offence but i didnt felt it was fair as GSOC is also kind of Internship where one gets to learn new thing am i wrong? purpose of gsoc is to learn too than just coding from what u |
| 21:03.54 | AbhToChill | already know? |
| 21:05.01 | dfighter | that doesn't stop you from submitting a proposal |
| 21:05.10 | grossmj | a least a draft one |
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| 21:05.24 | AbhToChill | well i submited mine on time though :P |
| 21:05.24 | terri | you can edit proposals right down to the deadline, so it's good to submit a draft early and update with more info if you have a task to complete |
| 21:05.29 | dfighter | also the teaser tasks are for you to find out if you like the codebase, if you can work with it |
| 21:05.30 | downey | terri: bingo |
| 21:05.39 | Seun_Droid | As long as the proposal was spam, might as well submit a skeleton. Melange has version control, plus there are comments by mentors, so yeah never wait till its done |
| 21:05.39 | dfighter | and for the org to find these out about you as well |
| 21:05.56 | Seun_Droid | Not spam* |
| 21:06.12 | downey | "commit early and often" |
| 21:06.20 | AbhToChill | drighter : there is condition that if u havnt submited patch before to the org u get no chance to get accepted |
| 21:06.26 | dfighter | heheh I had the same idea downey |
| 21:06.29 | dfighter | except with release |
| 21:06.30 | dfighter | not commit |
| 21:06.31 | dfighter | :P |
| 21:06.41 | downey | commit != pubish |
| 21:06.48 | downey | s/b/bl/ |
| 21:06.49 | AbhToChill | but anyway it is what it is :p |
| 21:06.51 | Seun_Droid | I literally stared 5 days ago but submitted on Wednesday |
| 21:07.01 | downey | Wednesday is a nice comfortable range |
| 21:07.01 | terri | would so not hire someone whose motto was "release early and often" |
| 21:07.04 | dfighter | AbhToChill, so what? |
| 21:07.12 | dfighter | AbhToChill, you can still submit it |
| 21:07.21 | terri | (commit yes, release no) |
| 21:07.23 | gevaerts | terri: do you work in the prison business? :) |
| 21:07.34 | terri | gevaerts: computer security. ;) |
| 21:07.36 | AbhToChill | i did submited mine :) |
| 21:07.40 | AbhToChill | just saying |
| 21:08.20 | dfighter | terri, you'd not hire lots of people then |
| 21:08.24 | dfighter | it's not at all a new idea |
| 21:08.24 | dfighter | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Release_early,_release_often |
| 21:08.35 | Seun_Droid | I wanted to do 2, but i ended up focusing on my second choice |
| 21:08.50 | gevaerts | thinks "release early and often" makes a lot of sense for young projects, less so for more established ones |
| 21:09.04 | meflin | depends on what you mean by release |
| 21:09.58 | terri | dfighter: I'm fully aware. My job often involves cleaning up after yahoos who forget that testing is part of that cycle. |
| 21:10.33 | downey | what's testing? :D |
| 21:10.33 | dfighter | terri, I don't think it's ever been meant "release without testing" :) |
| 21:10.58 | terri | dfighter: you'd be sorely surprised. ;) |
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| 21:11.18 | olly | it's more of a release unicycle - seems cool when you see it in action, but can end up with you falling flat on your face |
| 21:11.59 | gevaerts | I'd say "release early" is a way to get user-developers early on, *before* anything critical depends on the stuff |
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| 21:12.31 | meflin | there are release's and releases tho |
| 21:12.57 | olly | linux didn't have a public VCS in the early days, did it? |
| 21:13.16 | gevaerts | s/public// :) |
| 21:13.38 | olly | if you have a public repo, that each push is rather more like the "release" Linus was talking about |
| 21:13.46 | meflin | public alpha's are not an problem ... if it breaks you fix it |
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| 21:15.55 | dfighter | yep |
| 21:16.22 | terri | but yeah, I interview folk for computer security positions. my requirements are rather different than general dev positions |
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| 21:19.17 | Joshim5 | Hello! To confirm, this is the GSoC channel, correct? |
| 21:19.25 | carols | Joshim5: confirmed |
| 21:20.11 | Joshim5 | My mentor and I have been corresponding for weeks now, and he suggested that I make a final change before submitting. The deadline was advertised as tonight, but I already cannot login...How can I work around this issue? |
| 21:20.30 | Joshim5 | My proposed mentor can certainly verify that the application was completed days ago... |
| 21:20.30 | meflin | 19:00UTC it has passed |
| 21:20.47 | meflin | your org ( not mentor ) if they choose can let you edit |
| 21:21.02 | Joshim5 | Who should I contact then? |
| 21:21.10 | meflin | you mentor :) |
| 21:21.16 | downey | Joshim5: did you actually submit/save the proposal before the deadline? |
| 21:21.34 | Joshim5 | I have it local and I uploaded my education verification, etc |
| 21:21.40 | downey | Joshim5: oops. |
| 21:21.48 | Joshim5 | I had a proposal saved, but without the responses to the question |
| 21:22.12 | downey | If you've got one saved in melange, then as meflin said it's up to the organization |
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| 21:23.16 | downey | for us, we automatically set those incomplete proposals to "ignore" and they aren't reviewed. but YMMV |
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| 21:23.35 | meflin | depends by org |
| 21:24.25 | downey | yep ... it might depend on how incomplete it was :) |
| 21:24.28 | olly | Joshim5: if your dashboard shows a proposal, talk to the mentor |
| 21:24.29 | downey | just have to ask & find out |
| 21:24.40 | olly | if it doesn't, bad luck, try again next year |
| 21:24.49 | Joshim5 | I reached out to my mentor, waiting on a resopnse |
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| 21:25.01 | Joshim5 | This is so unfortunate, considering how I finished this days ago... |
| 21:25.02 | downey | one thing that's not cool: editing your melange proposal right up to 18:59:27 and then embedded changing content in images on a wiki that I control for the next 15 minutes to get around the deadline |
| 21:25.38 | gevaerts | downey: why not? Does that lead to sudden unexplained wiki outages? :) |
| 21:25.45 | downey | gevaerts: it does for the user in question |
| 21:26.04 | olly | 33 seconds before the deadline? that's hardly trying |
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| 21:27.02 | meflin | olly: almost 900 if I'm reading it right |
| 21:27.02 | Joshim5 | Anyway, thank you everyone for the help |
| 21:27.40 | olly | 19:00:00 - 18:59:27 = 900? |
| 21:27.46 | uojmiller | a big hi... from Sri Lanka |
| 21:28.14 | carols | hi uojmiller |
| 21:28.17 | meflin | olly: no 15 min later |
| 21:28.49 | uojmiller | hi carlos.. whats up |
| 21:28.54 | carols | itâs carols |
| 21:28.57 | carols | happy friday |
| 21:29.13 | uojmiller | sorry... ya.. |
| 21:29.51 | uojmiller | @ carols :are you a participant or a mentor |
| 21:30.05 | carols | uojmiller: neither |
| 21:30.23 | meflin | many mentors and admins and students here |
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| 21:30.38 | uojmiller | then?? :) |
| 21:31.08 | |Kev| | Carol is GSoC :p |
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| 21:31.23 | uojmiller | who.. cool. |
| 21:31.44 | uojmiller | i have submited on fossasia... |
| 21:31.54 | carols | uojmiller: good luck! |
| 21:32.16 | uojmiller | tx dude.. nice to have you.. |
| 21:32.24 | carols | not a dude |
| 21:32.32 | carols | iâm a woman. |
| 21:33.20 | uojmiller | then fine sis.. well dude is common for both genders ... :P |
| 21:33.37 | meflin | lets not be rude |
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| 21:34.43 | ninjadod | Hi, any stats on applications? |
| 21:34.48 | carols | !numapps |
| 21:34.48 | gsocbot | carols: "numapps" is 2015: 6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 137/416 orgs. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 21:34.54 | carols | there ya go |
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| 21:35.02 | ninjadod | thanks :) |
| 21:35.10 | carols | yw |
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| 21:37.24 | uojmiller | guys .. any statistical updates about the proposals?? |
| 21:37.31 | AbhToChill | goodnight everyone and goodluck |
| 21:37.46 | meflin | !stats |
| 21:37.46 | gsocbot | meflin: I have 3 registered users with 3 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
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| 21:38.00 | meflin | oh its there somewhere but who cares |
| 21:38.29 | uojmiller | actually good morning here ..! 3:00 a.m |
| 21:38.43 | AbhToChill | uoj u from india i guess |
| 21:38.54 | ninjadod | hehe ^ |
| 21:39.05 | AbhToChill | because i am going to sleep at 3:08 so yeah goodnight :) |
| 21:39.12 | uojmiller | well from down South .. Sri Lanka |
| 21:40.29 | uojmiller | g9t then..:P |
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| 21:42.11 | downey | away weekend |
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| 23:25.52 | myhau | hey, when is deadline for student proposals ? |
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| 23:26.05 | DaSpirit | Already passed. |
| 23:26.48 | dfighter | a mere 4 and half hours ago |
| 23:27.34 | myhau | What if I didn't send any proposal, can I still participate somehow ? |
| 23:28.07 | teepee | myhau: no, you missed that for this year |
| 23:28.36 | myhau | :( |
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