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10:51.08toad_the last time i was a mentor, 2 or 3 years ago, the number of slots an org got was equal to the number of mentors with assigned students. is it fair to say that that's likely to be true this year at least as an upper bound, so any application for a mentor with multiple good projects is unlikely to be successful?
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14:58.49MisterDevHi everybody
14:59.02AbhToChillhi
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15:06.44MisterDevAnyone knows where I can check my proposal status? The organization said that they have marked as "ignored" the rejected proposals, I've checked in My Dashboard but i can't find "ignored" or "pending"
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15:07.32MisterDevDoes it means that it is pending?
15:07.46AbhToChillwell they marked ignored in their own panel i guess
15:07.59AbhToChillu wont be able to know it till 27th
15:08.00gevaerts"ignored" is meant for spam proposals
15:08.05meflinyou will be informed of your status on the 27th
15:08.18AbhToChilland i guess org cant even tell accepted or rejected before that themselves either
15:08.23gevaertsOrganisations aren't allowed to tell you about acceptance or rejection before the deadline
15:08.42AbhToChillyour best bet would be.. updating ur proposal to somthing more meaningfull and better if u feel that way...
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15:09.10meflinwork with your org and be awesome
15:09.17AbhToChillu can ask mentors to review it for you...i mean ask them suggestions.. like what ur proposal lacks ... explanation  in somthing particular or somthing like that
15:09.20AbhToChilland update and fix it
15:09.50AbhToChillstart working with ur org... understanding the code and project more.. so ur mentor can see that yes u mean it
15:10.11AbhToChilland(for some people) sorry for using short words such as ur instead of your
15:10.12AbhToChill:P
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15:18.52MisterDevThe organization rejects proposal of students that have not submitted precisely a specific form, and they said that they have marked as "ignored" the invalid applications, because it is the only way to reject a proposal
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15:20.02AbhToChillas i told ... you wont be able to know about it...its in their own panel.. nor they are allowed to tell any student
15:20.23AbhToChillbest option - fix ur proposal and leave a comment or msg ur mentor that u have updated/fixed ur proposal
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15:23.26MisterDevAbhToChill: Ok, thanks a lot, also for your advices. Anyway i don't need to fix my proposal, I just want to know if it has been ignored or is still pending. Np for short words :)
15:23.53AbhToChillwell you will have to wait till 27 :)
15:24.12meflineven I do and I"m not a student :)
15:24.13AbhToChillwe all have to
15:24.42AbhToChillmeflin i suppose its as hard for mentors as its for us
15:25.08meflinwell you are waiting .. we are working and waiting ;)
15:25.13AbhToChillu guys gotta wait for seeing slot allocation number and all that too...
15:25.20meflinno clue for me who's in or not
15:25.24meflinyep
15:25.28AbhToChillwell we are working too :P...
15:25.47meflinI hope so :)
15:25.55AbhToChillatleast i know i am :)
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15:31.11MisterDevWhat kind of edits are usually needed? :) I've worked on this proposal for almost one month, i think (and hope :D ) it's fine now
15:31.54meflinyou can only edit if your org alows
15:32.12meflinwhat edits are needed ... you would need to talk to your mentor
15:37.35MisterDevthe org said that they will ask for edits if needed, I should be okay :)
15:40.32AbhToChillwhen i said working i meant on code  as such as understanding the api's and geting better grab on languages i am gonna use including trying to fix few current patches
15:40.45AbhToChillto show that yeah i know coding and my resume isnt fake lol
15:40.50meflinmight as well fix a few bugs :)
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15:41.11AbhToChillpatches = bugs i guess?
15:41.33meflinmore or less yes
15:41.46meflinnot all patches fix bugs ... but are always welcome
15:42.29AbhToChill:)
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15:59.30MisterDevOk, I understand now :) To be accepted I had to provide an app I made and to write something about how I would solve some problems.
16:01.16meflinhmm?
16:01.35AbhToChillnope
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16:02.20AbhToChillwhat i meant was contribute  to their current projects and interact with mentors
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16:05.07MisterDevYes, I mean that I've already shown that I know how to work with/on the project, because with the proposal I had to provide an app I made and to write something about how I would solve some problems.
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16:06.06AbhToChillbest option is to wait.. as untill 27 there is no way to clear cut know anyhting
16:06.07MisterDevHave I explained it clear this time? :)
16:06.20AbhToChillso yeah i wish u goodluck
16:06.22meflinno the best option is to jump in and fix some bugs :)
16:06.25AbhToChillwhich org did u applied for though
16:06.35AbhToChilloh yeah fix bugs while u wait ?:P
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16:08.36MisterDevI've asked on the mailing list and the org said they made a mistake, as you said we wont know anything till 27th
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16:09.12AbhToChilli was just wondering so asked it got nothing related that :)
16:09.16AbhToChilli am a student too
16:09.30MisterDevAbhToChill: Thanks :)
16:10.32teepeeaccording to what was said earlier, the ignore button on a proposal would notify the student (no idea how)
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16:10.47teepeehence it's only supposed to be used on really invalid / incomplete / spam proposals
16:10.48meflinno it will not
16:10.58teepeewell, http://infobot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/20150327.html.gz said so
16:11.00AbhToChillomg.. time to check my gmail LOL
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16:11.07meflinit wont
16:11.15teepeeat 18:24.28
16:11.24meflinno student will be informed untill the 27th no mater what
16:11.48meflin_IF_ what you posted is correct its its a critical bug
16:11.59AbhToChillteepee stop scaring us like that xD
16:12.03MisterDevmeflin: I can't, I have too much to study in this period. I applied for MIT Media Lab
16:12.20|Kev|meflin: Which would be a bug?
16:12.52meflin|Kev|: if proposals marked ignore inform the student
16:13.14meflinin advance of the 27th
16:13.36teepeeis not scaring anyone
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16:13.50|Kev|meflin: They do, I believe.
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16:14.09meflinthat is a crit bug if so
16:14.15AbhToChillis happy i have no email recieved saying ignored *phew*
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16:14.32|Kev|meflin: Carol was ok with orgs using it despite this the other day when someone asked. Even for non-spam.
16:14.33meflinthat sort of info is against the rules
16:14.43meflinhuh
16:14.48|Kev|Indeed.
16:14.55AbhToChillmef maybe ignore is not meant to reject proposals
16:14.57teepeewell, carols did indirectly confirm it happens
16:15.11AbhToChillits meant to ignore those which arnt right or somthing
16:15.36meflinmostly its for spam
16:15.37|Kev|Carol did confirm the other day it's fine for orgs to use it for proposals they don't want to consider.
16:15.46|Kev|Because someone asked specifically that.
16:15.54AbhToChillso in that case informing that "you are nor selected nor rejecteed but threw out of of proposal becaused u fucked up" i guess that would work not against rules
16:15.58teepee|Kev|: yep, it's in that log I've linked ^
16:15.59teepee:)
16:16.11meflindang a few years back I ignored one .. by accident
16:16.46AbhToChillputs the past in grave and ask meflin to move on *sampathies*
16:17.02|Kev|teepee: Sorry, didn't follow the link :)
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16:19.18teepee|Kev|: no problem, you know what you said anyway :D - just pointing out it's not just something misremembered ;)
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16:46.35Ricky_BobbyStops. Poses for the frame.
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16:49.21AbhToChillreminds this is gsoc irc channel not photobooth?
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16:51.21Ricky_BobbyAsks "Why not both?"
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18:09.11AbhToChilljust wondering when is slot allocation date?
18:09.22AbhToChilland are orgs allowed to tell students how many slots they got?
18:09.37AbhToChillbefore 27 i mean
18:09.50meflinthey can .. but do not have to
18:10.00AbhToChilland when is date?
18:10.06meflinif I recall see the timeline the drop dead slot date is the 21st
18:10.21meflinits a complicated process
18:10.39AbhToChillmentors gotta do anything in it?
18:11.15gevaertsNo. Google just gives lots of slots to one-mentor orgs and one or two to the big ones
18:11.19meflinsure finding out who to take can be a long and involved process and sucks the sould right out of your boddy ;)
18:11.54gevaertsEither that or they ask organisations how many slots they can usefully take. I can't remember which
18:12.34AbhToChillno i meant... after giving your request of number of slots...its totaly upto google though right.. i mean calculating and stuff
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19:16.29gsoc833hi, i am a freshman and know c programming language along with a bit of python...i want to apply for gsoc next year but to do that how should i improve my skills and how to submit my first bug ?
19:16.54AbhToChilldo u know anything about git?
19:17.24meflingsoc833: check tags for python and C for this year and become involved now
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19:17.43AbhToChillmeflin he cant apply now i am pretty sure about that
19:17.48tbryou don't need to be part of gsoc to be involved in the open source community
19:17.56AbhToChillthat true
19:17.56tbrAbhToChill: that's beside the point
19:17.59meflinhe can get involved now for next year :P
19:18.02gsoc833i know i cant apply now...i will next year..till then i want to learn !
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19:18.36AbhToChillwell when i first read his/her name gsoc i thoght it was from gsoc lol
19:18.38meflinand finding a project that interests  you and working with them will help you learn
19:18.38gsoc833where to find "tags".. sorry i am a complete newbie but will learn enthusiatically
19:18.44tbrit is a very good idea to get involved in things now. Especially if you're lucky and one of the projects you get involved with is accepted next year.
19:19.17meflinhttps://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015
19:19.26aalekhngsoc833: perhaps this might help you : http://blog.netham91.com/a-hitchhikers-guide-to-gsoc/
19:19.43AbhToChillanyway gsoc learn a bit about git how to use it and all... than try implementing ur programing skills
19:20.18meflinnot all projects use git
19:20.39AbhToChillbut its a good start
19:20.40AbhToChillisnt it?
19:21.02meflinbetter to find a project you like first
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19:21.16meflinmy person ( non-gsoc ) project that wouldn't help you at all
19:21.22meflinpersonal
19:21.42gsoc833ok i found the list of orgs for this year and filtered them out....i know a bit of git...(push pull concept...)....from the filtered list when i find a project that interests me...how to become a part of that and contribute ?
19:22.00garvitdelhicontact that org gsoc833
19:22.12meflinlook at there page for the contact info ... find a bug fix it ... talk to the comunity
19:22.16garvitdelhiyou can find contact information on their homepage or ideas page
19:22.51gsoc833hmn...will do thanks a ton for the help guys....i am sure this is a start to something !
19:23.57AbhToChillgoodluck
19:24.06gsoc833:D
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19:24.37AbhToChillam off now.. goodnight everyone :)
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