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| 05:19.02 | abhitochill | hmm morning everyone |
| 05:19.14 | abhitochill | !next |
| 05:19.15 | gsocbot | abhitochill: "next" is GSoC 2015 students will be announced on 27 April at 19:00 UTC |
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| 05:49.17 | vin-ivar | doesn't everybody know that by now |
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| 06:24.20 | debesh_mohanty | !logs |
| 06:24.20 | gsocbot | debesh_mohanty: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 06:37.14 | abhitochill | vin-var was just breaking silence |
| 06:37.35 | abhitochill | vin-ivar |
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| 07:05.10 | abhitochill | !logs |
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| 12:22.58 | deshrajdry | Hey everyone |
| 12:23.10 | deshrajdry | Can anyone here tell me the total number of students who will be selected for this summer of code? Just getting curious |
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| 12:23.46 | raincrash | deshrajdry, You will know that only on 27th. |
| 12:24.27 | deshrajdry | oh, 7 days more |
| 12:24.31 | kblin | I guess it's between 1 and â |
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| 12:24.43 | deshrajdry | kblin, :D |
| 12:24.45 | kblin | probably closer to 1 |
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| 13:03.53 | gevaerts | kblin: what does closeness mean w.r.t. â? |
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| 13:04.53 | drawkward | gevaerts: that is a deeply mathematical question |
| 13:05.31 | gevaerts | drawkward: I had managed to figure *that* out :) |
| 13:05.38 | drawkward | gevaerts: alas! You have stumbled upon the ideas of limits and asymptotes! |
| 13:06.12 | kblin | gevaerts: spoilsport |
| 13:06.22 | kblin | ;) |
| 13:07.45 | MatthewWilkes | How to estimate which is closer to n, 1 or â. Start a timer and count from 1 to n, stop the timer. Start a second timer, count from n to â. Make sure to avoid reading out the whole number to avoid skewing the result by constantly having to prepend "four hundred and seventy three million", for example. |
| 13:08.03 | MatthewWilkes | Then just compare the times. |
| 13:08.18 | gevaerts | I think I can add an optimisation to that |
| 13:08.36 | gevaerts | You can probably stop the second timer when the elapsed time is larger than the first |
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| 13:09.14 | gevaerts | Of course that has the disadvantage of ending the job, after which you'll be bored again |
| 13:09.24 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: https://image.slidesharecdn.com/16timelessbusinesslessonsfromthesimpsons-140205114121-phpapp01/95/16-timeless-business-lessons-from-the-simpsons-23-638.jpg?cb=1391664783 |
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| 13:10.02 | gevaerts | :) |
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| 14:12.20 | jcelerier | hello! is there an IRC channel about the google developers tools ? Could not find one on the web... |
| 14:12.48 | jcelerier | (more specifically, I'm looking for some help about https://developers.google.com/optimization/ :) ) |
| 14:14.49 | cpt_yossarian | jcelerier: you might want to try #google, they seem to be the unofficial google channel |
| 14:15.02 | jcelerier | cpt_yossarian: thanks! |
| 14:15.17 | cpt_yossarian | no problem |
| 14:15.37 | blast007 | jcelerier: they have a discussion forum linked at the bottom of that page |
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| 14:18.18 | Corey84 | also ##programming while not google-centric is great parking spot for all things code |
| 14:18.33 | jcelerier | okay, thanks! |
| 14:18.36 | jcelerier | had not seen the forum |
| 14:18.45 | jcelerier | we'll ask here |
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| 14:37.32 | vikramahuja_ | !logs |
| 14:37.32 | gsocbot | vikramahuja_: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 14:47.01 | newguy | hello is student allowed to see slot allocated to org? |
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| 14:48.33 | MatthewWilkes | newguy: An org may choose to share that information with the students, but I don't know of any reason why they would. |
| 14:49.30 | Valodim | are there reasons why they wouldn't? |
| 14:50.00 | newguy | I think that information should be public |
| 14:50.08 | newguy | MatthewWilkes: |
| 14:50.40 | gevaerts | You're allowed to think that :) |
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| 14:52.16 | MatthewWilkes | Valodim: Sure there are. For one thing, it's not final yet. If a student hears their org has a low number there's a decent chance they'll start to panic, perhaps overreacting by applying for more things rather than waiting a couple of days. |
| 14:52.37 | newguy | ya |
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| 14:53.46 | MatthewWilkes | You only have to idle in this channel for a bit to see how worked up people get themselves over the slightest suggestion that there might be fewer people selected than in a previous year to see how bad an idea it is to give provisional information out to prospective students |
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| 14:55.13 | gevaerts | Also, organisations can still give back slots. Giving back slots and have (subsequently) rejected students know about that can lead to very upset students |
| 14:55.37 | gevaerts | You don't have the (possibly fake) excuse that there just weren't enough slots for everyone then :) |
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| 14:57.32 | Valodim | true, orgs have vastly different situations |
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| 15:20.17 | mastermink_ | Has first round of duplication check has started? Timeline says 21st, but the timezone is not mentioned i guess. :) |
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| 15:20.45 | Valodim | !next |
| 15:20.46 | gsocbot | Valodim: "next" is GSoC 2015 students will be announced on 27 April at 19:00 UTC |
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| 16:15.58 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 16:16.36 | meflin | mmm tea |
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| 16:28.07 | carols | downey: you here? |
| 16:28.16 | downey | carols: always :) |
| 16:28.24 | mastermink_ | carols: Hi, When will duplication check start ? Timeline says 21st but in which timezone ? Or it has already started :? :) |
| 16:28.31 | downey | re-warms the tea |
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| 16:29.33 | carols | mastermink_: letâs say in 24 hours. |
| 16:29.35 | carols | howâs that. |
| 16:31.25 | mastermink_ | Oh! I thought its 21st April of UTC+14 :P. Thanks though |
| 16:31.52 | downey | 21 April, somewhere on Earth :-) |
| 16:32.14 | mastermink_ | downey: Hehe... right :) |
| 16:34.16 | kragniz | meflin: how's life in the python org? |
| 16:34.24 | kragniz | besides the tea |
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| 16:35.40 | meflin | bussy |
| 16:35.53 | kragniz | I'm sure! |
| 16:36.03 | kragniz | how many sub-orgs did you have this year? |
| 16:36.28 | meflin | 26 I think? |
| 16:36.43 | kragniz | ouch, no wonder you're busy |
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| 16:38.00 | mastermink_ | carols: downey: Can org mentors still see any conflicting slots. I mean the student who is selected by two or more orgs ? |
| 16:38.13 | carols | mastermink_: you mean duplicates? |
| 16:38.20 | carols | duplicates arenât visible until tomorrow. |
| 16:39.00 | carols | we try to give the orgs as much time as possible to choose which students they want to accept so that the duplicates are visible and resolvable early in the process. |
| 16:39.11 | gsoc936 | are students contacted in case of duplicates |
| 16:39.18 | carols | gsoc936: assume no. |
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| 16:42.15 | mastermink_ | carols: Thanks. Suppose some duplicates are not resolved even till 24th April... So in such a case, any one org will lose the slot ? Or that slot can be used to for some other proposal ? |
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| 16:42.34 | carols | mastermink_: um, those are two different questions youâre asking. |
| 16:42.46 | carols | if a duplicate isnât resolved on 24 april we have an IRC meeting about it. |
| 16:43.07 | carols | if an org loses a student to a duplicate situation, yes, the org is welcome to just accept another student instead. |
| 16:43.29 | mastermink_ | carols: great ! |
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| 17:55.06 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
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| 17:55.32 | meflin | meh monday! ... /me craws over to the tea |
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| 17:56.24 | gevaerts | is past the objectionable part of monday :) |
| 17:56.30 | downey | has finished tidying up his gsoc selections, so yes, time for tea! |
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| 17:57.24 | carols | downey: good job! |
| 17:57.31 | carols | you are amongst the very few right now :-) |
| 17:57.42 | downey | i was hoping i was the tail end |
| 17:57.51 | carols | i hope that as well |
| 17:57.54 | carols | alas, it is not so |
| 17:58.02 | meflin | small tidey .. large almost tidey |
| 17:58.03 | carols | the orgs propcrastinate just as much as the students it turns out |
| 17:58.09 | carols | *procrastinate |
| 17:58.09 | downey | on that note, let me treat myself to lunch along with tea |
| 17:58.31 | meflin | carols: I'll procrastinate later |
| 17:58.41 | carols | me too :-) |
| 17:59.11 | meflin | everything is going smooth-ish so far |
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| 18:00.08 | downey | meflin: here's a great youtube video about procrastination you might want to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXziurFkQxM |
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| 18:01.00 | meflin | snicker |
| 18:01.58 | meflin | downey: time to make a cup of tea :) |
| 18:03.15 | downey | ooh that sounds like a good idea |
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| 18:06.55 | abhitochill | hmm |
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| 18:16.47 | abhitochill | !tea |
| 18:16.47 | gsocbot | abhitochill: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax! |
| 18:19.50 | vin-ivar | duplicate and triplicate |
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| 18:22.38 | grvanm | !logs |
| 18:22.38 | gsocbot | grvanm: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 18:27.12 | abhitochill | hmm |
| 18:27.33 | carols | abhitochill: anything i can help with? |
| 18:28.03 | carols | iâm happy to try to answer any questions you might have. |
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| 18:32.25 | abhitochill | carols... any disclosure on total number of slots? |
| 18:33.09 | meflin | that is yet to be determined |
| 18:33.18 | meflin | patience and have tea |
| 18:33.22 | abhitochill | just wondering... if gsoc continued its trend of increasing slots every year or there was decline |
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| 18:33.35 | blast007 | abhitochill: you'll know soon enough |
| 18:33.39 | meflin | that is yet to be determined, have a tea |
| 18:33.56 | abhitochill | meflin serve me some good one? |
| 18:33.56 | meflin | slot count is not final untill it is |
| 18:34.25 | meflin | abhitochill: -> have a tea -> http://captea.com/collections/black-teas/products/rembeng-estate-organic |
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| 18:35.25 | meflin | passes abhitochill some sugar, lemon, milk, and honey ... drink your tea and relax |
| 18:35.36 | abhitochill | :D |
| 18:35.40 | abhitochill | thanksss |
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| 18:41.51 | olasd | one could say you should... chill |
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| 18:46.14 | dfighter | it's hard to imagine an increase either way |
| 18:46.21 | dfighter | just think about it abhitochill |
| 18:46.44 | dfighter | less orgs, and orgs presumable won't be able to accomodate more students than in previous years |
| 18:46.51 | abhitochill | true |
| 18:47.04 | meflin | it isn't that simple ... and only time will tell |
| 18:47.12 | dfighter | meflin, I know |
| 18:47.17 | abhitochill | but number of mentors is variable |
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| 18:47.33 | gevaerts | can easily imagine an increase |
| 18:47.36 | dfighter | there could be more orgs under umbrellas for example |
| 18:47.37 | gevaerts | Not *that* hard :) |
| 18:48.01 | abhitochill | hmm |
| 18:48.27 | dfighter | gevaerts, ofc if you are willing to imagine wild things. I prefer to guesstimate when imagining things like this |
| 18:48.29 | dfighter | ;) |
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| 18:48.39 | gevaerts | dfighter: it's a *number*. Nothing wild about it! |
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| 18:48.58 | meflin | I prefer hard data |
| 18:49.06 | dfighter | me too, meflin |
| 18:49.14 | dfighter | but that won't be available until the 27th |
| 18:49.20 | meflin | have a tea |
| 18:49.45 | dfighter | meflin, I drink tea every day ;) |
| 18:49.59 | gevaerts | My money is on the number of slots being a complex number |
| 18:50.10 | abhitochill | hahaha |
| 18:50.21 | Valodim | drink tea everyday~ |
| 18:50.36 | dfighter | gevaerts, so it has a real part that comes out on the 27th, and an imaginary part that's guesstimate? :P |
| 18:51.00 | gevaerts | dfighter: the entire thing will come out on the 27th |
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| 18:51.11 | gevaerts | And yes, I'm prepared to bet real money on it :) |
| 18:51.23 | dfighter | on what? |
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| 18:51.30 | gevaerts | On the number being complex |
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| 18:52.26 | dfighter | gevaerts, I think I've just lost you |
| 18:52.50 | gevaerts | is good at hiding :) |
| 18:52.58 | abhitochill | everyone is lostð |
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| 18:54.49 | Valodim | betting that the number will be a natural number and not a complex one seems like a fairly safe bet |
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| 18:56.06 | gevaerts | Valodim: appearances can deceive though |
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| 19:04.07 | vin-ivar | i dunno if there'd be many orgs under umbrellas |
| 19:04.15 | vin-ivar | it *is* google *summer* of code, I can't imagine there's much rain |
| 19:04.20 | meflin | roflesnort |
| 19:04.22 | vin-ivar | sees himself out |
| 19:06.12 | decltypeme | maybe if you are south hemisphere, it won't be **summer** of code |
| 19:06.24 | decltypeme | is not from south hemisphere |
| 19:06.30 | meflin | decltypeme: its upside down summer |
| 19:06.34 | gevaerts | has seen rain in summer |
| 19:07.03 | decltypeme | meflin: you do not say :D I always thought it won't be summer |
| 19:07.13 | gevaerts | Weather is a complex thing though :) |
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| 19:11.50 | abhitochill | its hot as hell in summer in india but same time rains as hell too |
| 19:12.40 | carols | abhitochill: careful on the language there, please |
| 19:13.03 | abhitochill | umm? |
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| 19:13.31 | dfighter | saying things like hell might offend religious people |
| 19:13.39 | abhitochill | oh u mean in as hell? thats just figure of speech for too much? |
| 19:13.53 | abhitochill | hmm okay.. never thought about it like that |
| 19:13.58 | meflin | it is a figure .. but it offends some |
| 19:13.59 | carols | abhitochill: just please consider it a warning for the future. |
| 19:14.01 | abhitochill | my bad.. sorry for that |
| 19:14.04 | carols | we keep this channel g rated |
| 19:14.25 | kragniz | I thought g rated was bad |
| 19:14.50 | kragniz | no, I'm wrong |
| 19:15.13 | meflin | g=general audiences the smallest of children |
| 19:15.53 | kragniz | for some reason I thought it meant unrated |
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| 19:16.01 | meflin | no |
| 19:16.16 | kragniz | I obviously don't go to the cinema enough |
| 19:16.20 | meflin | also who knows who is here look at the chan list? who knows |
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| 19:17.23 | kragniz | ah, I was getting it mixed up with r rated |
| 19:17.30 | kragniz | a large mistake |
| 19:21.43 | vin-ivar | abhitochill: really? whereabouts in india are you from? |
| 19:21.47 | vin-ivar | TN? |
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| 19:22.53 | abhitochill | punjab |
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| 19:23.12 | vin-ivar | ah, cool |
| 19:23.30 | vin-ivar | i didn't think anywhere except TN was all that wonky with seasons |
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| 21:20.50 | carols | serves some afternoon coffee and tea |
| 21:23.07 | aviraldg | chugs coffee and does math |
| 21:25.31 | meflin | sits in the corner and has monday tea |
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| 21:40.11 | Sqt | carols, Do we shoot you an email after final assignments for a waitlist spot, or should we do this sooner? The FAQ was rather unclear on this |
| 21:40.24 | carols | Sqt: sorry, i donât think i understand? |
| 21:40.34 | carols | do you email me to request slots from the waiting list, you mean? |
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| 21:41.43 | Sqt | carols, I was asking when we'd do that. the FAQ made it sound like after the dedupe so I'm a tad confused |
| 21:42.10 | carols | Sqt: yes, if you want to be put on the waiting list youâd email me about that now. |
| 21:42.21 | carols | i email all those instructions to the mentors list which is why the FAQ is vague |
| 21:42.44 | Sqt | carols, I get like half the emails and miss the other half for some reason :) |
| 21:42.48 | Sqt | But thanks for that |
| 21:42.55 | carols | yw |
| 21:43.02 | meflin | get a better email host |
| 21:43.24 | Sqt | meflin, They end up in my Google accounts email address and not the one I registered |
| 21:43.49 | meflin | and that tells you somthing :) |
| 21:44.41 | Sqt | meflin, One day I'll file a melange bug |
| 21:45.05 | meflin | hem .. no I'm telling you your email provider is messing up |
| 21:45.14 | carols | you folks want to take this to a PM? |
| 21:45.18 | meflin | check spam stuff |
| 21:45.21 | meflin | sorry |
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| 22:12.31 | efforter | Is anyone getting replies from the mentor of The Helikar Labs- University of Nebraska? |
| 22:12.52 | carols | efforter: that would be something to take to the communication channels for that org |
| 22:13.05 | efforter | They don't have one sadly |
| 22:13.31 | meflin | AFAIK all orgs have a communication channel |
| 22:14.57 | efforter | Not an IRC, mailing list or a blog. I am retty certain about that. |
| 22:15.04 | efforter | pretty* |
| 22:15.32 | carols | okay, thatâs still something to discuss with them, this channel is for gsoc generally, not any org specifically |
| 22:16.58 | efforter | Okay, thanks |
| 22:17.04 | carols | yw |
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| 22:19.14 | foxtrot7 | This question's probably been asked a ton of times, but does the order in which the proposals are 'organized' in the profile section matter at all? |
| 22:19.22 | carols | foxtrot7: no |
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| 22:23.02 | foxtrot7 | So the organizations talk to each other if they want the same student, I guess. |
| 22:23.07 | carols | yep |
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| 22:25.49 | foxtrot7 | that's what I was curious about, thanks |
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