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09:29.51abiogenesisjohnhunter, hide back in what?
09:30.26johnhuntercave
09:30.54johnhunter* bshah hides back in cave
09:30.55johnhunter* rharish follows bshah into the cave
09:31.11johnhunteryesterday I saw these messages
09:31.25johnhunterso I am just curious about what does that mean
09:32.39johnhunterAnd how to reply to a person? just type he nickname before the message ?
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09:40.12dkreuterjohnhunter, you can type /me followed by some words
09:40.28dkreuterand yes, regarding answers
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09:54.54Valodimjohnhunter: there is tab completion in most irc clients. for this message to you, I typed "jo<tab>" at the beginning
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10:27.32johnhunterValodim, thanks
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11:17.43ankita-kshi, could someone tell me what is this tax form that I am required to submit?
11:18.10ankita-ks(I am from India)
11:18.37vin-ivarforeign certification thing
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11:24.24braverockvin-ivar: try #gsoc-india . they will know
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11:25.04vin-ivar?
11:25.06vin-ivari'm telling ankita-ks
11:25.09vin-ivarnot asking
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11:31.05ankita-ksvin-ivar : thank you :)
11:31.22vin-ivarsure
11:31.38kinggreedyhey guys
11:31.52kinggreedyI saw someone talking about publishing their proposal
11:32.08kinggreedyDo you have any link about that ?
11:34.04swookhmm publish in what sense?
11:34.26braverocklots of students put their proposals on gihub, or their blogs, etc
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11:35.34swookI guess it could be helpful for future applicants
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11:39.05kinggreedyah publish it on melange
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11:51.27kinggreedyIn short, it could be like this http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2011/dfamorato/5685265389584384 , I've already know how to do that
11:51.42kinggreedybut I saw a guy who published his whole proposal on melange
11:52.03braverockI think a student can mark the proposal as public
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11:53.39kinggreedyyeah, but how ? I spend time to google for it and read the FAQ, but I couldn't come up with a solution
11:55.20knbkI believe only the short description is copied from your proposal, not the full content. do you have the edit link at the top?
11:56.38kinggreedyMy proposal doesn't have edit link at the top, but my project has
11:57.02kinggreedyclinking on it will allow me to edit the description, but that's not what I wanted because it clear out the format of the proposal
11:57.33knbkyes, that's what I mean, the project is public but doesn't have the actual content from your proposal
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12:01.18knbkyou can copy the html source code from your proposal and paste it into your project, it will retain the formatting and links etc.
12:05.57kinggreedyah alright, thank you, knbk, I didn't know that it accept HTML code
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13:49.19s4kehi. one question: i will be writing my bachelor thesis about the same project i am doing during this GSoC
13:49.27s4keis there anything i have to keep in mind?
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13:51.33sgallaghs4ke: Caffeine. Lots of it.
13:51.57s4kesgallagh: nah i will be fine :).
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14:44.43dliis there requirement for student's activity during the "community bonding period"? what if the student is not talking to us at all up to now.
14:45.56braverockthere is no requirement that I'm aware of.  I would suggest that mentors reach out to students during this period, certainly.
14:46.34braverockour students generally set goals for themselves in their proposals for this period, so if yours do, you could check in with them on how those are going
14:46.47gevaertsThere's no formal requirement, but students should be communicating
14:46.51teepee--well, it's supposed to be _bonding_ so not answering at all is a bit of a concern
14:46.57gevaertsIf they aren't, you can fail them IIRC
14:47.01dlibraverock, we even tried to call her phone number. but she didn't report anything yet
14:47.33teepee--there was also no response on the melange comment, right?
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14:48.17braverockmany of our students are in the middle of exams right now, so I expect low frequency of responses, perhaps more than a day or two
14:48.22dligevaerts, in the phone call, she said she is waiting for the $500 payment for internet connection. I am worried she is not preparing for her project
14:49.08dlibraverock, but we never heard from her for anything other than the payment, since the project was accepted
14:50.09dliteepee, no, she is not answering melange either.
14:50.27braverockhow long have you been trying?
14:51.52dlibraverock, we called her number early last week. left another comment in melange May 8th. only in phone she said she is waiting for payment, but no answer in melange
14:53.26braverockwould probably send an email (not melange) mentioning your concerns about preparation, but otherwise not fuss too much about it
14:53.47braverockhopes your student isn't one of the ones who disappear, but it does happen
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14:54.38dlibraverock, thanks. I just want to make sure it's not against any google rule. Other than that I can understand the internet expense is a big problem for her. We even tried to send her some money for internet connection
14:55.14braverockwe've had overseas students use mobile data for email and code uploads...  it does make it difficult to communicate with them
14:55.49braverockhaangouts and irc are so convenient when mentors and students are both online
14:57.09braverockone other thing we ask all students is to tell us in their proposal any pre-existing schedule conflict (like exams or planned travel) so we know when they will be off the grid
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14:57.49dlibraverock, she said time is the constraint, but she can not afford internet
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14:58.09dlibraverock, sorry, "time is not a constraint"
14:58.58gevaertsdli: if you believe there's no dishonesty in play, I'
14:59.05gevaertsd just wait
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15:01.01braverockagrees with gevaerts
15:01.02teepee--hmm, the initial payment is just at the start of the coding phase, so that could mean delay in getting started?
15:02.07braverockwell, I assume that the student must own a computer.  so *writing code* doesn't depend on being online, though sending emails and committing code to a central repository does
15:02.32dligevaerts, I am worried, not about her honesty, but her lack ability to work, without lots of warming up
15:03.06braverockhow was preparation factored into the proposal and schedule?
15:03.27dliteepee--, yes, we were aware about that. tried to send fund by paypal, didn't work out
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15:03.43teepee--dli: I know, I saw the discussion with brlcad
15:04.37dliteepee--, good. so, you agree it doesn't look good, but we should just wait to see
15:04.42teepee--I do hope it's going to get better. maybe accepting a slowly going first week and trying to catch up then
15:05.17dliteepee--, thanks
15:06.00teepee--dli: yeah, I'd be concerned a bit too, but I think you had quite some discussions about the project before so I'd hope for the best
15:06.32dlibraverock, gevaerts, thanks a lot for your comments
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15:33.55buggatihey hi everyone. I have a doubt. I am having end semesters exams at my university and it will be over by 24th May. I can't do much of the work during this time . Actually I forgot to mention about that in the proposal but I already told my mentor about it before my exams started. Will it be a issue if I can't do much during this community bounding period ? I am afraid because my mentor don't talk to me after I told them about my exams
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15:38.01neverpanicbuggati: you should discuss this with your mentor
15:38.06teepee--buggati: if you discussed with your mentor, it's likely no issue
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15:38.21neverpanicif you can't reach your mentor, try the project's mailing list(s) or their other communication channels, if any
15:38.39neverpanicand if that doesn't help, try contacting the org admin for the organization
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20:28.15braverockmarti: there is a #gsoc-es channel, youmight try there?
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