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| 05:10.35 | malithj | I'm a newbie to the development. Has anyone got an idea as to where I should start? I'm also hoping to apply to gsoc 2016 |
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| 06:49.06 | malithj | Hello! |
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| 09:05.32 | ath_08 | Hello, I am new here. Can someone get me started? |
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| 09:07.46 | perepujal | ath_08: Have you already registered? if so, look for an org that inspires you |
| 09:08.27 | perepujal | and start with one of the beginner tasks |
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| 09:09.33 | ath_08 | where can I find the beginner tasks? |
| 09:11.21 | perepujal | click on the org's info page, then click on their tasks page |
| 09:12.37 | perepujal | at the right you will seee filters that will allow you to filter the beginning tasks |
| 09:13.08 | perepujal | Note that not all orgs have the same level for beginners, you will have to explore |
| 09:16.46 | valorie | ath_08: are you asking about GCi, or GSoC? |
| 09:17.01 | ath_08 | I am asking about GSoC |
| 09:17.29 | valorie | then find an org, as perepujal said |
| 09:17.33 | valorie | and start working |
| 09:17.48 | ath_08 | Since I am new here, it all seems very confusing |
| 09:18.03 | valorie | have you looked at the FAQs and student manual? |
| 09:18.09 | ath_08 | yes |
| 09:18.36 | valorie | what bits are confusing? |
| 09:19.11 | perepujal | ath_08: sorry, I was talking about GCI |
| 09:20.36 | perepujal | keep in mind that the org list for GSOC is not decided in advance |
| 09:20.47 | valorie | I remember being new to FOSS, and it was very confusing indeed |
| 09:21.22 | ath_08 | Yes. I am going through the list of organisations selected in 2015 |
| 09:21.26 | valorie | perepujal: starting in *any* org helps in GSoC |
| 09:21.57 | perepujal | true |
| 09:22.24 | ath_08 | Am I already late for GSoC 2016 or I still can do it? |
| 09:22.43 | valorie | you can start, for sure |
| 09:22.47 | valorie | no guarantees |
| 09:23.06 | valorie | GSoC doesn't start until Spring |
| 09:23.11 | valorie | so yes, you have time |
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| 17:57.44 | gsoc244 | Hello |
| 17:58.05 | gsoc244 | Is there anyone who can help me? |
| 17:58.36 | meflin | with? |
| 17:58.47 | gsoc244 | With gsoc |
| 17:58.58 | gsoc244 | I am new to this field |
| 17:59.00 | meflin | what about it? |
| 17:59.06 | meflin | ah read the student guide and faq |
| 17:59.12 | gsoc244 | I want to contribute to open source |
| 17:59.22 | gsoc244 | How should i begin |
| 17:59.33 | meflin | https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page |
| 17:59.55 | gsoc244 | Ok and how should i enter into open source world |
| 18:00.19 | meflin | find a project that intersts you and get involved with them, fix bugs that sort of thing |
| 18:00.51 | gsoc244 | I only know some JAVA and C |
| 18:01.04 | gsoc244 | No other programming languages |
| 18:01.17 | meflin | lots of things are made in those languages |
| 18:01.19 | gsoc244 | Will it be fine to begin with now |
| 18:01.42 | meflin | yes |
| 18:01.46 | gsoc244 | And till now i haven't worked on any project |
| 18:02.28 | gsoc244 | Can you post some link of projects which i can begin with |
| 18:02.31 | gsoc244 | In C |
| 18:02.50 | gsoc244 | ।or.in which i can fix a bug |
| 18:03.05 | gsoc244 | But in beginner's level first |
| 18:03.12 | meflin | you can search the project list by tags from the 2015 orgs |
| 18:03.22 | gsoc244 | That i did |
| 18:03.42 | gsoc244 | But not able to get a page of the project in which i can fix a bug |
| 18:03.45 | gsoc244 | In C |
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| 18:04.06 | meflin | search for C and then check out the projects that interest you |
| 18:05.13 | gsoc244 | Ok #meflin i see it once again |
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| 18:37.50 | gsoc054 | anyone there? |
| 18:38.11 | gsoc054 | help needed |
| 18:39.26 | teepee | gsoc054: feel free to ask a specific question - if someone knows the answer, you'll see :) |
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| 18:40.13 | gsoc054 | ok i want to know how can i start contributing to open source |
| 18:40.33 | gsoc054 | i know c language only so want to work with c \ |
| 18:41.11 | teepee | lots of possible way, I guess. I tend to suggest finding some project where you really are interested in |
| 18:41.28 | teepee | like something you use every day, or like to know more about |
| 18:41.39 | gsoc054 | from where to project |
| 18:41.44 | gsoc054 | stuck there only |
| 18:42.12 | gsoc054 | find project# |
| 18:42.39 | teepee | you could have a look at the lists from previous gsoc runs or browse around github or similar sites |
| 18:43.08 | gsoc054 | but they use much more than c |
| 18:43.25 | gsoc054 | i find it difficult to start then |
| 18:44.08 | teepee | yeah, I guess pure C projects are not the most common thing anymore :) |
| 18:44.27 | gsoc054 | so what should i do |
| 18:44.47 | teepee | but then just have a look, no need to be scared. if you find it interesting, just give it a try, find out how it works by compiling yourself |
| 18:45.25 | teepee | most projects have a mailing list, irc channel or other places where you can ask |
| 18:45.35 | gsoc054 | can you give me an example with a project |
| 18:46.20 | teepee | I think BRL-CAD does use C for lots of things |
| 18:46.36 | teepee | of cause there's always, the big Linux kernel :-) |
| 18:47.10 | gavinatkinson | gsoc054: What OS do you use? What desktop do you use? Both of them are likely written in C |
| 18:47.21 | teepee | github list: https://github.com/trending?l=c |
| 18:47.29 | gsoc054 | ubuntu and windows |
| 18:47.30 | gsoc054 | https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/brlcad |
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| 18:48.40 | gsoc054 | i opened that github link you gave |
| 18:49.07 | gsoc054 | what should i start with first there? |
| 18:49.57 | teepee | that project list is surprisingly short, you could have a closer look at those projects, see if something sounds interesting |
| 18:50.43 | teepee | if not, search other platforms. I always forget the one that is supposed to bring new people to new projects :/ |
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| 18:51.31 | gsoc054 | suppose telegram for android |
| 18:51.33 | gsoc054 | this project |
| 18:51.42 | gsoc054 | i opened its git page |
| 18:51.52 | gsoc054 | https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram |
| 18:54.21 | teepee | ahh, OpenHatch is the one I always forget :-) => https://openhatch.org/ |
| 18:55.06 | teepee | but if you like that android project, cool, try it out |
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| 18:56.18 | gsoc054 | yeah i will see that android one |
| 18:56.31 | gsoc054 | you please tell me about openhatch also |
| 18:56.36 | gsoc054 | how to use it |
| 18:57.23 | teepee | no idea, I've never used it myself - I don't have spare time for more projects ;) |
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| 18:58.21 | gsoc054 | ok teepee |
| 18:58.24 | gsoc054 | thnks |
| 18:59.01 | gsoc054 | now i will figure it out myself rest |
| 18:59.34 | teepee | cool, have fun |
| 18:59.51 | teepee | openhatch seems to have a channel here on freenode too |
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| 19:00.31 | gsoc054 | one more doubt |
| 19:00.31 | gsoc054 | https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/ticket/2789 |
| 19:00.33 | teepee | oh, and from your nick name, I guess you might want to join next years gsoc :) |
| 19:00.44 | gsoc054 | i want to see and fix this bug |
| 19:00.56 | teepee | make sure to mark the dates then - the deadlines are always very strict |
| 19:01.08 | gsoc054 | yes yes sure |
| 19:01.30 | gsoc054 | how do i see their code and try to fix the bug |
| 19:01.31 | gsoc054 | ? |
| 19:02.12 | teepee | there's a "browse source" button on top of that page |
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| 19:03.04 | gsoc054 | https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/sssd.git |
| 19:03.12 | gsoc054 | this page opened |
| 19:03.52 | vikrambajaj | Hey! I'm new here. Looking forward to GSoC 2016 :) |
| 19:04.58 | teepee | gsoc054: yup. if you already know how git works, the important clone link is at the bottom of that page, if you did not use git yet, there's some nice tutorials around |
| 19:05.16 | gsoc054 | i know little abt git |
| 19:05.25 | gsoc054 | ok ill clone it |
| 19:07.06 | gsoc054 | but nothing happened after i clicked on clone links that were at the bottom\ |
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| 19:12.00 | gsoc054 | teepee |
| 19:12.03 | gsoc054 | teepee |
| 19:12.08 | gsoc054 | teepee |
| 19:12.11 | PovAddict | stop doing that |
| 19:12.14 | gsoc054 | where are u |
| 19:12.37 | teepee | is right infront of the notebook :) |
| 19:13.08 | gsoc054 | teepee please tell me how do i access that code |
| 19:14.22 | gsoc054 | !me how to clone that project |
| 19:14.23 | teepee | gsoc054: like I said, check out some git tutorials or read though the docs at http://git-scm.com/ |
| 19:15.11 | gsoc054 | yeah will do that |
| 19:15.16 | gsoc054 | that would take time |
| 19:15.25 | meflin | and effort |
| 19:15.26 | gsoc054 | but i want to see that code now |
| 19:15.39 | PovAddict | what code? sssd? |
| 19:15.43 | gsoc054 | so can you tell me directly what can i do for that |
| 19:15.47 | gsoc054 | yes |
| 19:15.52 | gsoc054 | for tht sssd |
| 19:15.58 | PovAddict | run: git clone https://git.fedorahosted.org/git/sssd.git |
| 19:16.26 | gsoc054 | how to run |
| 19:16.31 | gsoc054 | just that page opens |
| 19:16.42 | PovAddict | that's a command for your terminal |
| 19:18.35 | teepee | oh, I can understand being impatient, but in the end, you'll have to make the effort yourself |
| 19:18.47 | gsoc054 | yes |
| 19:18.54 | gsoc054 | i ran that cmd on terminal |
| 19:18.58 | gsoc054 | its downloading |
| 19:19.09 | gsoc054 | after that what will happen |
| 19:19.19 | PovAddict | you'll have a sssd directory with the code |
| 19:19.21 | gsoc054 | and what i have to do |
| 19:19.25 | gsoc054 | ok |
| 19:19.59 | gsoc054 | then i can edit and try to fix for that bug, right? |
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| 19:23.01 | gsoc054 | ? |
| 19:23.40 | teepee | well, normally the first step is to reproduce the issue, otherwise how would you know you've fixed it with some changes |
| 19:24.02 | gsoc054 | reproduce the issue means? |
| 19:24.33 | vikrambajaj | gsoc054: try to make the issue occur again |
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| 19:25.14 | gsoc054 | its getting tougher and tougher after each of your replies :( |
| 19:25.47 | vikrambajaj | I'm new to all this too. Take one step at a time :) |
| 19:25.47 | PovAddict | how are you going to fix a bug if you can't even run the program to see if the bug is there? :) |
| 19:26.18 | gsoc054 | i am new to all this |
| 19:26.20 | gsoc054 | just learing |
| 19:26.34 | gsoc054 | thats why dont know these things now |
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| 19:27.37 | teepee | hehe, just don't try doing all on one day :) |
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| 19:28.07 | gsoc054 | but basically i havent dont anything till now |
| 19:28.09 | teepee | I'm working in that field for 20 years, and there's still something to learn almost every day, so just go step by step |
| 19:28.29 | gsoc054 | sorry if i am irritating you |
| 19:28.57 | gsoc054 | ok will follow what you say |
| 19:29.13 | teepee | no problem, the motivation is nice to see :D |
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| 22:34.25 | Freso | Huh. I didn't know about OpenHatch. Thanks teepee! :) |
| 22:34.43 | Freso | puts it on his to-do list to register the various MetaBrainz projects with them |
| 22:35.15 | teepee | :) |
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| 23:30.11 | rohan_ | hello |
| 23:32.38 | rohan_ | Is this the Chat for Google Code-In? |
| 23:33.02 | perepujal | rohan_: yes |
| 23:33.27 | rohan_ | Ok thank you |
| 23:34.31 | rohan_ | So I am confused about how tasks work |
| 23:34.39 | rohan_ | You claim a task and you have a certain period of time to work on it |
| 23:34.49 | rohan_ | But can't you look at the info do the work and then claim and submit it? |
| 23:35.33 | PovAddict | if you do that, someone else could claim it and submit it before you do |
| 23:35.42 | rohan_ | So how do tasks work? |
| 23:35.45 | perepujal | and risk another student claims the task and block it? |
| 23:36.00 | rohan_ | in the sense that there are tasks and whoever claims it first can do it? |
| 23:36.07 | PovAddict | yes |
| 23:36.09 | rohan_ | and it is blocked to anyone else? |
| 23:36.16 | rohan_ | Ok |
| 23:36.22 | rohan_ | I didn't know that |
| 23:36.41 | PovAddict | you can also abandon a task you claimed if you find you can't do it |
| 23:36.44 | perepujal | rohan_: you can start another task while you have finished one and are waiting for review |
| 23:36.48 | PovAddict | and then it becomes free for other students again |
| 23:37.04 | rohan_ | perepujal: So you cannot work on multiple tasks at once? |
| 23:37.05 | perepujal | but I think you can not block it to you |
| 23:37.16 | rohan_ | Oh so after someone completes a task they claimed it is opened up again? |
| 23:37.28 | PovAddict | no, if it's completed it's completed |
| 23:37.31 | rohan_ | And if yoiu accidentally hit abandon task can you still fix it and do it later? |
| 23:37.37 | PovAddict | if it's abandoned it's free again |
| 23:37.45 | PovAddict | *some* tasks though, may have multiple copies |
| 23:37.54 | rohan_ | Wow this is really cool |
| 23:38.03 | rohan_ | So can you claim multiple tasks to work on at once? |
| 23:38.15 | PovAddict | I don't think so |
| 23:38.21 | rohan_ | Ok |
| 23:38.27 | rohan_ | but you can claim if you are waiting for one to get reviewed? |
| 23:38.33 | PovAddict | with copies I meant a project may have a task that is "review 5 bug reports" |
| 23:38.39 | PovAddict | and they make 10 copies of it |
| 23:38.59 | PovAddict | so up to 10 students can claim it, because they would be working on a different set of 5 bugs anyway |
| 23:39.05 | rohan_ | Oh I have some questions about IRC |
| 23:39.13 | rohan_ | so what is a network and what is a channel in IRC chats? |
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| 23:39.35 | rohan_ | I don't understand how it works very well it took me a lot of work to figure out how to get to this chat |
| 23:39.46 | PovAddict | think of network as the server where the chat is |
| 23:39.51 | rohan_ | and a channel? |
| 23:39.59 | PovAddict | #gsoc is a channel |
| 23:40.07 | PovAddict | the freenode network has thousands of channels and #gsoc is only one of them :) |
| 23:40.26 | rohan_ | So if a network is the server then what is a channel in the same perspectie? |
| 23:40.30 | rohan_ | *perspective |
| 23:41.16 | PovAddict | a channel is each individual chatroom where conversations happen |
| 23:41.27 | RTCoder | ok |
| 23:42.03 | PovAddict | is in like 30 channels in freenode alone, and 6 more in OFTC, most are quiet though |
| 23:42.22 | RTCoder | how do u do that? |
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