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00:24.44picoleauhi
00:24.58picoleauwe have poeple here ?
00:25.04meflinno
00:25.11meflinwhat are you after?
00:25.34picoleauok
00:25.42picoleauim from quebec and you ?
00:25.58meflinthe topic is gsoc
00:26.00picoleauwhat is this room  gsoc ?
00:26.13meflinyes see the topic
00:26.28picoleau10 years i no use mirc sorry !
00:26.30picoleaulol
00:26.44picoleauwhere see topic ?
00:26.50meflin/topic
00:27.00picoleau: )
00:27.07meflinthis channel is for google summer of code
00:27.17valoriepicoleau: this isn't a chat chan, it is for people involved in GSoC
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00:27.38picoleauwaht is  gsoc ?
00:27.47valoriegoogle summer of code
00:27.49meflinfollow the links in the topic
00:27.59picoleauok goodé i like mirc
00:28.05valorie....sigh
00:28.10picoleaubig number of good room
00:28.33valorietry alis to find channels to chat in: /msg alis list *searchterm*
00:28.47picoleauwhere you from my friend ?
00:28.51valoriethere are channels in IRC, not rooms
00:29.00picoleauchannel yes  !
00:29.07valorielives south of Seattle, Washington USA
00:29.13valoriein the northwest of the US
00:29.16picoleaugood seattle
00:29.52valorieif you are not interested in GSoC, please /part the channel
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00:31.47picoleauok sorry ! very long timpe i no use mirc.
00:31.54picoleauthank yuo for information
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07:17.18PraneethGeekhi guys, do you know how to find the organizations that would be likely accepted?
07:20.20valoriePraneethGeek: you are looking at it backwards
07:20.28valoriefind an org you want to work with
07:20.37valorieand work with them
07:20.46valorieif they are accepted, you are ahead
07:21.21valorieif not, look at those who are accepted, and see if you find some you could connect with as you did with your first org
07:21.57valoriethat said, some orgs are accepted most years, and you can see which those are by looking at previous years
07:22.22PraneethGeeksorry, I am misunderstood...I want to know the organizations that would be accepted most likely based on previous years trends(as the list of accepted organizations is not yet announced for GSoC 2016)
07:23.36thiagoPraneethGeek: look at last year's accepted list and the year before that
07:23.47thiagoorgs that are in both years are likely to be accepted again
07:23.50thiagothough no guarantees
07:24.07tbrI don't think such a "trend/stats" list exists, at least not publicly. There are only the individual year lists
07:24.12valoriePraneethGeek: you're going to have to do your own research
07:24.20PraneethGeek@valorie @thiago thank you guys!
07:24.45valorieyou're welcome, although I'm not a guy
07:24.51tbralso the orgs that are often accepted, also tend to be sought after, for that reason
07:25.07amsharmaPraneethGeek: this might help you find orgs that are mostly accepted: https://shangtongzhang.github.io/gsoc-analysis/
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07:27.40valorieoh very nice, amsharma
07:28.24PraneethGeekawesome <amsharma>
07:28.44amsharmalet's just all thank the creator: https://github.com/ShangtongZhang/
07:38.52valorie!logs
07:38.52gsocbotvalorie: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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11:18.20|Kev|Has anyone managed to either export to PDF or copy/paste their application so they can share it internally? I'm trying and failing.
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11:37.43|Kev|Nevermind, I did it manually per-field :)
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15:00.08[ESphynx]good morning. Should our organization accounts from last year be carried on? O
15:00.28[ESphynx]I'm getting a 'We culdn't find you', wondering if it's because I used a different e-mail or what
15:00.43MatthewWilkes[ESphynx]: No, they are never carried on, but especially this year as it's a new platform
15:01.06[ESphynx]ah thanks MatthewWilkes.
15:03.53[ESphynx]MatthewWilkes: should we still be able to access our application from a previous year?
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15:04.48[ESphynx]ah yes, sorry for asking :)
15:04.48MatthewWilkes[ESphynx]: I should think so, on the old app
15:04.54[ESphynx]yeah it's all there :) thanks.
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15:39.42nisIs it possible to mentor more than one student?
15:41.46gevaertsnis: that's not really recommended. Mentoring tends to take a lot more time than many first-time mentors assume
15:41.49teepee`nis: I did not see any limitation for that in previous years, although you really should be sure you have enough time to do that
15:42.19gevaertsOf course you might be lucky and have low-maintenance students, but you don't know that in advance
15:43.10MatthewWilkesIt's not rare to have a student that wants to be low maintainence and therefore needs even more attention, though
15:43.41gevaertsYes, low maintenance != not seen very often :)
15:44.11nisYes, I have experience with students. I wonder about official limitations.
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15:45.19gevaertsIn previous years there was no limit, and I'd assume there isn't a limit this year, but I don't know
15:45.20nisThat's true that positioning to more than one student might be blocked at student proposal if mentor already has a student.
15:47.00MatthewWilkesnis: If that's the case you'll want to look at having a main mentor and a product owner type role split, so the person helping them through the formalities of getting started and the newbie mistakes isn't the person with the valuable domain knowledge
15:47.07gevaertsAlso try to provide a backup plan for mentors. Ideally you have more than one mentor per student (although that might be "unofficial" in the sense that the software might not know about it) so if the primary mentor goes away for some reason you don't leave the student out in the cold
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15:48.37nisOh, sorry. I do care to take a backup mentor position beside being a mentor already.
15:49.36gevaertsPerfect
15:49.56nisHowever, if the main mentor become busy, you're supposed to do his work fine. ,-)
15:51.23gevaertsOne thing to keep in mind is that there's the ideal world, the real world, and the world experienced mentors and admins publicly claim to live in :)
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15:52.31MatthewWilkesIndeed. If I had to guess, I'd say that about 10% of the time the backup mentor actually needs to step in.
15:52.54MatthewWilkesIf you can get them to work as a team it is a lot smoother when one is a bit busy
15:53.05Freso^
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15:57.01nisI fully agree. I deliberately take the worse case into account.
15:57.20niss/take/consider/
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17:40.34ESphynxRe: technology tag, I can't seem to manage to enter eC, it always auto-selects 'ecl'
17:41.04ESphynxCan't we enter new tags?
17:42.41FresoWhat's "eC"?
17:43.08ESphynxFreso: http://ec-lang.org/ -- an OO programming language with reflection, properties and dynamic headers, superset of C
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17:44.23FresoESphynx: I'd write gsoc-support@google.com and ask about it.
17:44.35ESphynxit does seem like a bug
17:45.15FresoIn which case that e-mail would be the proper place to report it. :)
17:45.28ESphynxyes, thanks, but I know they lurk here :P
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17:52.22FresoSure. But IME, writing to the e-mail will most often yield a faster response time than waiting for them to reply here.
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17:55.46ESphynxwill do :)
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19:48.22endpoint_ben2My admin email address is wrongly listed in the dashboard several places, i.e., on the application-summary page, on the members page, and also on the pull-down menu to the right of the MEMBERS link on the nav.
19:48.33endpoint_ben2Nevertheless, it is correct in my profile.
19:50.58endpoint_ben2My actual gmail address is "endpoint.ben@gmail.com" (and it shows up thusly in my profile) however, my email address is mistakenly listed as "endpointben@gamil.com" in the aforementioned places.
19:51.29Fresoendpoint_ben2: .'s are irrelevant in @gmail.com addresses.
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19:51.48FresoYou could use e.n.d.p.o.i.n.t.b.e.n@gmail.com and it would go the same place.
19:52.40endpoint_ben2Holy mackerel. Thanks for letting me know Freso.
19:53.09endpoint_ben2I greatly appreciate it.
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