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02:13.21wanni!timeline | wanni
02:13.21gsocbotwanni: "timeline" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
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16:16.09MehtaHi - I have applied to run GSOC in mumbai last week but have not heard back from Google?
16:18.34meflinyou did read the faq and timeline did you not?
16:18.44meflinalso gsoc dosn't happen in a physical place
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16:39.02akshitdeepsinghHello everyone, where can I find the different projects for this year? I am new to this and I have just some basic idea.
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16:41.02tctaraakshitdeepsingh: you can check out Google's timeline.
16:41.11tctaraIt's on the first of March
16:41.26tbr!timeline
16:41.27gsocbottbr: "timeline" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
16:41.37akshitdeepsinghthanks tctara
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16:55.47TobbiCan I apply for GSoC, even if I don't know anything about computers? :P
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16:59.45tbrI'm sure you can apply, I won't comment on your chances to actually be accepted.
17:00.18aghislaTobbi: it could be a good occasion to get feedback on your actual chances
17:00.35Tobbitbr, aghisla: I was kidding. :) I did apply as a mentoring organisation.
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17:00.43aghislaTobbi:  :D
17:00.48aghislawhich one?
17:01.13Tobbiaghisla: I better not tell... Otherwise I might be limiting my chances.
17:01.26Tobbi:P
17:01.40TobbiGoogle employees be thinking something like "Oh, no, he
17:01.46aghislano problem :) let's wait until Google announcement then!
17:01.49Tobbi|s making fun of the stuff"
17:01.51Tobbi:P
17:01.59Tobbiaghisla: Okay, it's SuperTux.
17:02.09TobbiOur first year applying with GSoC.
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17:02.48aghislacrossing my fingers for you!
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17:02.58Tobbiaghisla: Danke. :)
17:03.01TobbiI guess we could need it.
17:03.05akshitdeepsinghShould I choose my project on the basis of the language I know or should I go with a project which excites me but the language is not known to me?
17:03.21akshitdeepsinghyeah Tobbi, Good Luck
17:03.30Tobbiakshitdeepsingh: Thanks.
17:03.40aghislaakshitdeepsingh: you can do two projects
17:03.51aghislaI mean, you can apply with two projects
17:04.06Tobbiaghisla: Are you working for Google, by the way?
17:04.17aghislaactually no
17:04.25aghislaI am also an org admin
17:04.33TobbiAh, alright. What project is yours then?
17:04.53aghislaOSGeo, the open source geospatial foundation
17:04.59aghislawe do cartography and maps
17:05.28TobbiSounds interesting :)
17:05.33TobbiSo, good luck to you, too. :)
17:05.37aghislathanks!
17:06.12TobbiTo be honest: I am not *that* keen... :) If we don't get accepted, that means more freetime for me during the summer.
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17:07.32aghislawell you would get a couple of students, as a first-time mentoring org, it's quite a reasonable workload.
17:08.15Tobbiaghisla: *If* we get accepted, that is.
17:08.20TobbiWhich I kind of doubt.
17:08.41akshitdeepsinghHow many students are accepted for one project?
17:08.52aghislaTobbi: let's see!
17:09.03TobbiYeah, we will :)
17:09.49aghislaakshitdeepsingh: every accepted mentoring organisation gives Google the number of students it would like to accept
17:10.46aghislathen Google decides how many to assign to it, depending if it's a first-time mentoring org, an umbrella project, the fail/pass rate of past years, the quality of the mentoring org's application, etc.
17:11.20TobbiSo, I guess first timers get less students, right?
17:11.37TobbiAlso, aghisla: Have you participated before?
17:11.48aghisladuring past editions, newcomers got one or two slots
17:11.53TobbiAh, okay.
17:12.03aghislaI have been participating as org admin since 2011.
17:12.08akshitdeepsinghHow will I be able to contact an organisation?
17:12.15Tobbiaghisla: How was your experience?
17:12.32aghislaakshitdeepsingh: every organisation will have a public webpage on official GSoC website, with all contact info.
17:12.33Tobbiakshitdeepsingh: I guess once the org lists are online.
17:13.22akshitdeepsinghThanks to both of you :)
17:13.40aghislaTobbi: very rewarding. I have been student twice with my org before, and being an admin meant to me to see many students move their first steps in open source, and several of them had great time during soc, and stayed as permanent community members.
17:14.44Tobbiaghisla: That sounds very promising. SuperTux (do you know that project?) has only seen a recent revitalization, it lay dormant for a long time, but since about 1-2 years we're having a good pace again.
17:14.52Tobbi*laid
17:14.58aghislaI think it helped also several OSGeo software projects, to get ready for new contributors
17:15.08TobbiBut, great thing.
17:15.20aghislayes I know SuperTux!
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17:15.26aghislavery good
17:15.34aghislaGSoC can help a lot in revitalising it.
17:15.47Tobbi:)
17:16.10aghislamake sure you have mentors, i.e. developers who are ready to guide a student in his/her first steps.
17:16.21aghislait means a lot of time and patience, in some cases
17:16.25TobbiI'm one of those mentors, and there are two others.
17:16.32aghislavery good
17:16.33TobbiActually, depending on the tasks there are different mentors.
17:16.47TobbiI sincerely hope they'll be available.
17:17.35aghislawell, mentors have ideally to be available all summer, but if you have good replacement mentors, it could work too.
17:17.53aghislamake sure that the student has always someone to refer to
17:18.05TobbiYeah, I will make sure. There are other team members around.
17:18.11TobbiAnd most of them should have a basic understanding.
17:18.13aghisla(that could be you, but only as an emergency plan)
17:18.17aghislathat's great
17:18.54TobbiGood thing is that I have been trying to make sure everyone at least knows the basics of how things work... Knowledge about how to do things is rather shared among the whole team.
17:20.08aghislait's a good thing to have, even if you won't be part of GSoC.
17:20.22TobbiBeing the de-facto project lead is sometimes hard. People have been looking at me for guidance, but I'd rather not do that, I'd rather have team decisions, since I know I'm not perfect.
17:20.58TobbiThings will be different for GSoC students, though. I|ll make sure to give them guidance, but also try to be open to suggestions.
17:20.59aghislaI understand well
17:22.03aghislaand I would simply say, try to do your best :)
17:22.48TobbiYup. I'll try to manage this on the side of my usual college workload...
17:23.11aghislaI have to run now. Feel free to chat next time we're online!
17:23.18TobbiSure. :) talk to you.
17:23.28aghislabye!
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19:17.35abhitochill!help
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19:27.15umccullough<shrug>
19:27.30umcculloughprobably someone just trying to figure out what IRC does
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20:19.30jose!next
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22:03.24Fresosttaylor: Btw, http://blog.musicbrainz.org/2016/02/18/wrapping-up-google-code-in-2015/ if you need a break from GSoC :)
22:05.20sttaylorFreso: nice! thanks for sharing.
22:05.41sttaylorCan we take this wrapup post and tweak it a bit for our blog?
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22:12.05Fresosttaylor: I feel like all out blog posts should be CC-something, but I don't see anything on the blog site. Hm. But yeah, knock yourselves out.
22:12.39sttaylorFReso: weÕll send it to you first with any edits to be sure you are okay with them
22:12.45sttaylorIÕll send it on to our blog owner
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22:12.50sttaylorthanks!
22:13.10FresoHm.
22:13.25FresoIs it my settings or yours that are causing weird unicode things?
22:13.34Freso"weÕll", "IÕll"
22:13.58FresoSomeone else tyope something unicody? (æøå?)
22:14.01Freso*type
22:17.10thiagoæøå
22:17.13Fresosttaylor: ^ - looks like my terminal is showing UTF-8 fine in other channels, so maybe check your client settings or something? :)
22:17.16tbrmëh
22:17.17Valodim☭
22:17.50Valodimbut I think it's indeed sttaylor, I see "weÖll" as well
22:18.11sttaylorweird
22:19.28sttaylorweÕll  better?
22:19.31Valodimnope :)
22:19.56ValodimI think the only person I have ever seen use the actual apostrophe character ’ instead of the typewriter one ' everyone uses was carols :)
22:20.21umccullough_xmy client doesn't support unicode at all
22:20.33umccullough_xso, for me it should be we'll
22:20.38umccullough_xsilly "smart quotes"
22:21.18Valodimget a client from this century? :P
22:21.42umccullough_xi know what you mean, but it is definitely from this century ;)
22:21.44umccullough_xwindows client
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22:23.01umccullough_xi'm used to the unicode being screwy, so i don't usually complain
22:23.01Fresowindows = 👎
22:23.03Freso😉
22:23.37Freso❤️s compose key combo’s
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22:25.19Freso(There are a number of people in #musicbrainz using “smart quotes”, so I know that they usually show up fine for me, but I did just update lxterminal ~2 hours ago, so that might have screwed up something, but doesn't seem like it did.)
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22:27.48umccullough_xlooks like sttaylor uses Colloquy on a mac, so i guess that's the default behavior there
22:28.14umccullough_xon linux, i generally use xchat
22:28.31umccullough_xwindows, i use hydra (not cuz it's superior, just cuz i'm used to it)
22:28.46umccullough_xon Haiku, i uses Vision ;)
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22:31.14FresoI just use weechat and leave it running on a machine I can SSH into from anywhere.
22:31.28FresoAnd by SSH I mean mosh.
22:31.30Freso❤️
22:32.07Fresomosh is one of the best things that have happened in a long while.
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22:36.13umccullough_xis mosh significantly different than using ssh + screen?
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