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02:40.22hussam_elaraby!next
02:40.23gsocbothussam_elaraby: "next" is Feb 29: List of accepted mentoring organizations published! https://g.co/gsoc
02:40.38hussam_elaraby!help
02:40.39gsocbothussam_elaraby: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
02:40.56hussam_elaraby!stat
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03:25.26animalroamhello sttaylor
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03:47.51Slurpeepours out tea for Melange
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03:49.25kvpsJOIN
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03:52.15ollyhmm, wonder if there's a sane way to get the useful data out
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05:00.40lkalso we still have to write our own proposal even if an organization has several of their own posted?
05:00.55valorieorgs have ideas
05:01.01valorieYOU have a proposal
05:01.24valorieand it must be great, or don't bother
05:01.43valorieand by great, I mean realistic and detailed
05:02.41lkalalright thanks! so we have to research about the project, get familiar with the existing technologies and community, and then write a proposal to turn their idea into reality?
05:04.15lkaland deadline is March 25th?
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05:11.10lkalhave you guys started working on your proposals yet?
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07:18.26iAmNewHereWill it be necessary to have complete knowledge of the standard libraries, besides syntactical fluency in a language?
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08:29.26aman_skywalkerIs anyone knows irc for CERN sft ??
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10:13.05negiHi! guys is anyone in the 'Canadian Centre for Computational Genomics (C3G) - Montreal node' organisations mailing list?. I want to subscribe but am unable to reach them.
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10:24.42linuxmoddernegi,  not I but  do they have a FAQ for  mailing lis t subscriptions?
10:24.54linuxmodderor some wiki page (most have one or both)
10:26.11negiThe have subscription by request. But that id is unresponsive
10:26.32linuxmoddernegi,  how long  is  unresponsive?
10:26.43linuxmodder6-12 hours  or  we  talking days ?
10:26.50linuxmodderhave you checked `spam` ?
10:27.38negi2 days.
10:27.54negiWait I'll search in spam
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10:30.23neginope, there is no msg from their mailing list.
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12:26.26_tnullHello! I have a quick question concerning proposals: If I send in multiple proposals and more than one might get accepted, will I have a say which one will get accepted (aka which one I'd rather do)?
12:26.38_tnullOr how is determined which one will be accepted?
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12:37.42pq_tnull, I think the first org to accept you gets to decide. It's up to them if they want to ask you, or negotiate between orgs.
12:39.37kblin_tnull: we orgs assume that you don't send any proposals for projects you don't want to do
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12:49.42Freso!faq
12:49.42gsocbotFreso: "faq" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq
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12:51.03FresoNope, not stated there.
12:51.37FresoRobert_S: ^ Can you perhaps ping sttaylor about adding something about that? Seems to get asked at least a couple of times a day in here.
12:51.51Fresocan't be bothered to write a mail right now
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14:39.58anjanaHi
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14:42.08abhi_shwho selects the gsoc student proposal as a gsoc project ? is the the mentoring organization or google ?
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14:45.16nicolassebrechtabhi_sh: orgs rank proposals, google decide the number of allocated slots.
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14:46.26ErilythSuppose two proposals are the first two in rank ordered by the organization and google gave enough slots, then will the 2nd student not get any project at all?
14:46.37ErilythThe two proposals are for the same project
14:47.28nicolassebrechtAFAIU, orgs next do whatever they want with the allocated slots.
14:48.28nicolassebrechtBut I'm not sure about that.
14:48.44nicolassebrechtGoogle changed the rules this year.
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14:50.50nicolassebrechtErilyth: If 2 slots are allocated, the 2 best ranked proposals are likely the accepted ones.
14:51.53abhi_shhow the proposals are ranked?
14:52.01abhi_shand what about the suborgs inside of an org ?
14:52.13nicolassebrechtThe orgs ranked their submitted proposals.
14:53.07nicolassebrechtabhi_sh: It's done at the umbrella scale.
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14:53.29abhi_shthanks!
14:53.49nicolassebrechtabhi_sh: I expect that the orgs admins will save the ranks at the webapp.
14:54.24nicolassebrechts/at/in/
14:55.19downeyRumour is that there is no rating inside the webapp now ... the orgs simply indicate which proposals to accept.
14:55.59nicolassebrechtdowney: "Rumour"?
14:56.04nicolassebrechtFrom where?
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16:35.32CuriousLearneravnee, hello
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17:15.52cfochhello
17:16.09cfochDo I need to register in https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ to participate?
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17:16.14cfochto apply, I mean
17:19.08teepeeyep, although if you want to participate as student, check the timeline :)
17:19.47cfochyes, I am student
17:21.30cfochshould I wait for March 14th ?
17:21.41cfochor do I need to register/create an account ?
17:21.46cfochbefore that
17:22.09valoriecfoch: as a student, right now you should be interacting with your chosen org
17:22.25valorietalking to your probable mentor, and developing your proposal
17:22.33valoriewith their input
17:22.47valoriedon't worry about the site until it's time to upload your proposal
17:23.00Calinouit probably means it's too late for me then :|
17:23.09CalinouI did send an issue comment on GitHub but no reply, it means "gtfo" I guess
17:23.22teepeeCalinou: too late for what?
17:23.30Calinouparticipating as a student
17:23.35valorieone comment and you give up?
17:23.39valoriegood grief
17:23.52teepeeCalinou: considering the application period is not yet open, how do you come to that conclusion?
17:24.05Calinouthus I haven't interacted with any org yet :/
17:24.08valoriesubscribe to the mailing lists, hang out in the irc chans, join the telegram groups
17:24.11valoriefix bugs
17:24.17valoriestart
17:24.29valoriestop talking here and go participate
17:24.35valoriethat's where the action is NOW
17:24.51teepeeCalinou: to have a chance for participation, you should have done that and created a proposal by the application deadline
17:26.20teepeeso there's still enough time to do all that
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18:04.53linuxmodderCalinou,  get you butt in gear  -- if you have  yet to introduce yourself to an org / submit or  brainstorm a proposal your chance of  being  admitted  drop BIG time
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18:09.12Pratik151what is size limit of gsoc proposal? and can we add images to proposal?
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18:13.44linuxmodderPratik151,  not sure of  overall but  my org  for example  has no size  limits that I'm aware of  ask your org  to clarifiy if they do
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18:25.03Calinoufix your spacebar maybe
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21:19.24ToltarHiya
21:19.58ToltarAnyone on here?
21:20.33meflinif you have a question just ask it
21:21.21ToltarAh ok, so is the GSoC a way for students get their projects launched in a student mentor relationship?
21:21.35meflin?
21:21.44meflinthe orgs are already chosen
21:21.52meflinstudents work with those orgs
21:21.57ToltarOh ok
21:22.19ToltarDo we pitch our own ideas or do we have to work on their ideas?
21:22.34ToltarAnd do we have to create a working demo?
21:22.35meflinyou can pitch your own , its harder then taking up and exsisting idea
21:22.44meflineach org has there own requirements
21:22.50ToltarOh ok
21:22.57PulkoMandya mix of both, the orgs provide an "idea list" and you need to build your proposal from it. The org decides which proposals they keep, usually according to their own interests
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21:25.20ToltarBecause I have been working on a Git related python project which manages all local and online repositories in one little program. Basically it universally manages repositories on your computer and on places like (github, bitbucket, gitlab, excetera). So what would Idea like that be pitched to?
21:26.14meflinyou can search on the pthong tag on the list and https://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode/2016
21:26.33ToltarCool thanks
21:26.56meflinI'm not aware of any place that fits but I dont know all the orgs and suborgs in perfect detail
21:27.52ToltarOh ok. Thanks for your help meflin
21:28.29benstrumentalIs it unreasonable for a first-year org to request 3 students?
21:28.48benstrumentalhttps://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/slot-allocation#overview states that first-year orgs will likely receive 1-2 slots
21:29.59meflinyou can ask ... just dont expect to receive
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21:54.26ollybenstrumental: my impression has been that new orgs get 2 slots unless they only asked for 1, though we've a new program admin this year and various changes
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21:55.20benstrumentalolly: OK thanks
21:55.41ollyi think there are two numbers you give still - one is the number of amazing proposals you'd like to accept, and another higher one for the number you could
21:56.11ollythough of course don't ask for more than you can mentor in either case
21:56.48benstrumentalI think the number of amazing proposals will exceed what we are able to accept :)
21:57.06ollyit's likely not the advice you want to hear, but the best thing to do as a new org is to take really good care of a couple of students
21:57.23ollythey're more likely to stick around, and more likely to give good feedback to google on the experience
21:57.29meflinits a lot harder then it looks :)
21:58.05ollyif you take on too much and let the students down, that'll mean you're less likely to get another shot at gsoc, and less likely to get many slots if you do
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21:58.58JohnHey!
21:59.05JohnAnyone here?
21:59.17Guest59443Hello
21:59.19Guest59443anyone here
21:59.26Guest59443forever alone :')
21:59.52meflinif you have a question just ask it
22:00.13benstrumentalolly: No it's good advice. Thanks, we will keep this in mind
22:01.34Guest59443Yeah, I have. My website is running slow. Disabling all wordpress plug-ins make my website up to 2x as fast. However, I cannot examine the 'big' issue. Tried to deactivate all plug-ins one by one, but it doesn't make any difference. Tried to switch to Cloudflare, but that didn't make it anything faster either...
22:01.45Guest59443Could you please have a look at my website? www.peppix.nl
22:01.54meflinthis has nothing to do with google summer of code
22:01.59Guest59443;p
22:05.49linuxmoddermy org has  9 projects for props  atm
22:05.51Guest59443no one can help me with this?
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22:07.19ollybenstrumental: i know it wasn't advice was happy to hear in my first year - it's always hard to have to turn away promising students
22:07.33ollyGuest59443: nobody here
22:08.09linuxmodderGuest59443,   try in #webdevelopment
22:08.20ollyor a wordpress related channel
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22:14.40linuxmodderhe had a great idea but way too busy of a site tho
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