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02:40.23 | gsocbot | hussam_elaraby: "next" is Feb 29: List of accepted mentoring organizations published! https://g.co/gsoc |
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05:00.55 | valorie | orgs have ideas |
05:01.01 | valorie | YOU have a proposal |
05:01.24 | valorie | and it must be great, or don't bother |
05:01.43 | valorie | and by great, I mean realistic and detailed |
05:02.41 | lkal | alright thanks! so we have to research about the project, get familiar with the existing technologies and community, and then write a proposal to turn their idea into reality? |
05:04.15 | lkal | and deadline is March 25th? |
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10:13.05 | negi | Hi! guys is anyone in the 'Canadian Centre for Computational Genomics (C3G) - Montreal node' organisations mailing list?. I want to subscribe but am unable to reach them. |
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10:24.42 | linuxmodder | negi, not I but do they have a FAQ for mailing lis t subscriptions? |
10:24.54 | linuxmodder | or some wiki page (most have one or both) |
10:26.11 | negi | The have subscription by request. But that id is unresponsive |
10:26.32 | linuxmodder | negi, how long is unresponsive? |
10:26.43 | linuxmodder | 6-12 hours or we talking days ? |
10:26.50 | linuxmodder | have you checked `spam` ? |
10:27.38 | negi | 2 days. |
10:27.54 | negi | Wait I'll search in spam |
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10:30.23 | negi | nope, there is no msg from their mailing list. |
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12:26.26 | _tnull | Hello! I have a quick question concerning proposals: If I send in multiple proposals and more than one might get accepted, will I have a say which one will get accepted (aka which one I'd rather do)? |
12:26.38 | _tnull | Or how is determined which one will be accepted? |
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12:37.42 | pq | _tnull, I think the first org to accept you gets to decide. It's up to them if they want to ask you, or negotiate between orgs. |
12:39.37 | kblin | _tnull: we orgs assume that you don't send any proposals for projects you don't want to do |
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12:49.42 | Freso | !faq |
12:49.42 | gsocbot | Freso: "faq" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq |
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12:51.03 | Freso | Nope, not stated there. |
12:51.37 | Freso | Robert_S: ^ Can you perhaps ping sttaylor about adding something about that? Seems to get asked at least a couple of times a day in here. |
12:51.51 | Freso | can't be bothered to write a mail right now |
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14:39.58 | anjana | Hi |
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14:42.08 | abhi_sh | who selects the gsoc student proposal as a gsoc project ? is the the mentoring organization or google ? |
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14:45.16 | nicolassebrecht | abhi_sh: orgs rank proposals, google decide the number of allocated slots. |
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14:46.26 | Erilyth | Suppose two proposals are the first two in rank ordered by the organization and google gave enough slots, then will the 2nd student not get any project at all? |
14:46.37 | Erilyth | The two proposals are for the same project |
14:47.28 | nicolassebrecht | AFAIU, orgs next do whatever they want with the allocated slots. |
14:48.28 | nicolassebrecht | But I'm not sure about that. |
14:48.44 | nicolassebrecht | Google changed the rules this year. |
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14:50.50 | nicolassebrecht | Erilyth: If 2 slots are allocated, the 2 best ranked proposals are likely the accepted ones. |
14:51.53 | abhi_sh | how the proposals are ranked? |
14:52.01 | abhi_sh | and what about the suborgs inside of an org ? |
14:52.13 | nicolassebrecht | The orgs ranked their submitted proposals. |
14:53.07 | nicolassebrecht | abhi_sh: It's done at the umbrella scale. |
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14:53.29 | abhi_sh | thanks! |
14:53.49 | nicolassebrecht | abhi_sh: I expect that the orgs admins will save the ranks at the webapp. |
14:54.24 | nicolassebrecht | s/at/in/ |
14:55.19 | downey | Rumour is that there is no rating inside the webapp now ... the orgs simply indicate which proposals to accept. |
14:55.59 | nicolassebrecht | downey: "Rumour"? |
14:56.04 | nicolassebrecht | From where? |
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16:35.32 | CuriousLearner | avnee, hello |
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17:15.52 | cfoch | hello |
17:16.09 | cfoch | Do I need to register in https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ to participate? |
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17:16.14 | cfoch | to apply, I mean |
17:19.08 | teepee | yep, although if you want to participate as student, check the timeline :) |
17:19.47 | cfoch | yes, I am student |
17:21.30 | cfoch | should I wait for March 14th ? |
17:21.41 | cfoch | or do I need to register/create an account ? |
17:21.46 | cfoch | before that |
17:22.09 | valorie | cfoch: as a student, right now you should be interacting with your chosen org |
17:22.25 | valorie | talking to your probable mentor, and developing your proposal |
17:22.33 | valorie | with their input |
17:22.47 | valorie | don't worry about the site until it's time to upload your proposal |
17:23.00 | Calinou | it probably means it's too late for me then :| |
17:23.09 | Calinou | I did send an issue comment on GitHub but no reply, it means "gtfo" I guess |
17:23.22 | teepee | Calinou: too late for what? |
17:23.30 | Calinou | participating as a student |
17:23.35 | valorie | one comment and you give up? |
17:23.39 | valorie | good grief |
17:23.52 | teepee | Calinou: considering the application period is not yet open, how do you come to that conclusion? |
17:24.05 | Calinou | thus I haven't interacted with any org yet :/ |
17:24.08 | valorie | subscribe to the mailing lists, hang out in the irc chans, join the telegram groups |
17:24.11 | valorie | fix bugs |
17:24.17 | valorie | start |
17:24.29 | valorie | stop talking here and go participate |
17:24.35 | valorie | that's where the action is NOW |
17:24.51 | teepee | Calinou: to have a chance for participation, you should have done that and created a proposal by the application deadline |
17:26.20 | teepee | so there's still enough time to do all that |
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18:04.53 | linuxmodder | Calinou, get you butt in gear -- if you have yet to introduce yourself to an org / submit or brainstorm a proposal your chance of being admitted drop BIG time |
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18:09.12 | Pratik151 | what is size limit of gsoc proposal? and can we add images to proposal? |
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18:13.44 | linuxmodder | Pratik151, not sure of overall but my org for example has no size limits that I'm aware of ask your org to clarifiy if they do |
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18:25.03 | Calinou | fix your spacebar maybe |
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21:19.24 | Toltar | Hiya |
21:19.58 | Toltar | Anyone on here? |
21:20.33 | meflin | if you have a question just ask it |
21:21.21 | Toltar | Ah ok, so is the GSoC a way for students get their projects launched in a student mentor relationship? |
21:21.35 | meflin | ? |
21:21.44 | meflin | the orgs are already chosen |
21:21.52 | meflin | students work with those orgs |
21:21.57 | Toltar | Oh ok |
21:22.19 | Toltar | Do we pitch our own ideas or do we have to work on their ideas? |
21:22.34 | Toltar | And do we have to create a working demo? |
21:22.35 | meflin | you can pitch your own , its harder then taking up and exsisting idea |
21:22.44 | meflin | each org has there own requirements |
21:22.50 | Toltar | Oh ok |
21:22.57 | PulkoMandy | a mix of both, the orgs provide an "idea list" and you need to build your proposal from it. The org decides which proposals they keep, usually according to their own interests |
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21:25.20 | Toltar | Because I have been working on a Git related python project which manages all local and online repositories in one little program. Basically it universally manages repositories on your computer and on places like (github, bitbucket, gitlab, excetera). So what would Idea like that be pitched to? |
21:26.14 | meflin | you can search on the pthong tag on the list and https://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode/2016 |
21:26.33 | Toltar | Cool thanks |
21:26.56 | meflin | I'm not aware of any place that fits but I dont know all the orgs and suborgs in perfect detail |
21:27.52 | Toltar | Oh ok. Thanks for your help meflin |
21:28.29 | benstrumental | Is it unreasonable for a first-year org to request 3 students? |
21:28.48 | benstrumental | https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/slot-allocation#overview states that first-year orgs will likely receive 1-2 slots |
21:29.59 | meflin | you can ask ... just dont expect to receive |
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21:54.26 | olly | benstrumental: my impression has been that new orgs get 2 slots unless they only asked for 1, though we've a new program admin this year and various changes |
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21:55.20 | benstrumental | olly: OK thanks |
21:55.41 | olly | i think there are two numbers you give still - one is the number of amazing proposals you'd like to accept, and another higher one for the number you could |
21:56.11 | olly | though of course don't ask for more than you can mentor in either case |
21:56.48 | benstrumental | I think the number of amazing proposals will exceed what we are able to accept :) |
21:57.06 | olly | it's likely not the advice you want to hear, but the best thing to do as a new org is to take really good care of a couple of students |
21:57.23 | olly | they're more likely to stick around, and more likely to give good feedback to google on the experience |
21:57.29 | meflin | its a lot harder then it looks :) |
21:58.05 | olly | if you take on too much and let the students down, that'll mean you're less likely to get another shot at gsoc, and less likely to get many slots if you do |
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21:58.58 | John | Hey! |
21:59.05 | John | Anyone here? |
21:59.17 | Guest59443 | Hello |
21:59.19 | Guest59443 | anyone here |
21:59.26 | Guest59443 | forever alone :') |
21:59.52 | meflin | if you have a question just ask it |
22:00.13 | benstrumental | olly: No it's good advice. Thanks, we will keep this in mind |
22:01.34 | Guest59443 | Yeah, I have. My website is running slow. Disabling all wordpress plug-ins make my website up to 2x as fast. However, I cannot examine the 'big' issue. Tried to deactivate all plug-ins one by one, but it doesn't make any difference. Tried to switch to Cloudflare, but that didn't make it anything faster either... |
22:01.45 | Guest59443 | Could you please have a look at my website? www.peppix.nl |
22:01.54 | meflin | this has nothing to do with google summer of code |
22:01.59 | Guest59443 | ;p |
22:05.49 | linuxmodder | my org has 9 projects for props atm |
22:05.51 | Guest59443 | no one can help me with this? |
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22:07.19 | olly | benstrumental: i know it wasn't advice was happy to hear in my first year - it's always hard to have to turn away promising students |
22:07.33 | olly | Guest59443: nobody here |
22:08.09 | linuxmodder | Guest59443, try in #webdevelopment |
22:08.20 | olly | or a wordpress related channel |
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22:14.40 | linuxmodder | he had a great idea but way too busy of a site tho |
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