| 00:00.38 | JordiGH | Huh, some of them have done all of this fancy formatting with logos and coloured writing. |
| 00:00.49 | JordiGH | I can't believe it, but I miss Melange. |
| 00:01.54 | JordiGH | Facebook accounts! Oh my. |
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| 00:14.43 | Guest57544 | is it too late to start writing proposal now ? |
| 00:15.00 | JordiGH | No, the deadline's tomorrow. |
| 00:15.47 | Guest57544 | i have no idea on how to start writing the proposal, i am an keener on writing python algorithm for the "AI: A Modern Approach" |
| 00:16.11 | Guest57544 | is there anywhere to find the example proposal? |
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| 00:16.42 | olly | the student guide has a couple |
| 00:16.56 | olly | but if your org supplies an application template you should follow that |
| 00:17.38 | olly | students ignoring the template isn't a good indication for them being easy to mentor |
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| 00:26.31 | *** topic/#gsoc by Robert_S -> GSoC Proposal Deadline is March 25th 19:00 UTC | http://g.co/gsoc | LESS THAN 16 HOURS LEFT |
| 00:26.54 | Robert_S | (Yes, it's 16.5 right now.) |
| 00:28.00 | olasd | more like 18.5 |
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| 00:31.27 | olasd | hands some timezones to Robert_S |
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| 00:31.54 | Robert_S | No, it's not timezones, it's math. |
| 00:32.01 | *** topic/#gsoc by Robert_S -> GSoC Proposal Deadline is March 25th 19:00 UTC | http://g.co/gsoc | LESS THAN 18 HOURS LEFT |
| 00:32.07 | Robert_S | And eyedrops. |
| 00:32.10 | markedsea | 19 hours* |
| 00:32.16 | markedsea | Because it's 18.5 hours. >_> |
| 00:32.34 | Robert_S | markedsea: I know, but this way people get their proposals in 30 minutes early, instead of waiting for the deadline. |
| 00:32.47 | markedsea | Ooh. |
| 00:32.57 | olasd | by that logic they'd have put it in 2.5 hrs early :P |
| 00:33.04 | markedsea | Heheh. |
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| 00:47.35 | Guest57544 | how do i now if the enrollment is valid of not ? |
| 00:47.59 | Guest57544 | i have upload my id card to the web, is there any validation machinism |
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| 00:48.18 | Robert_S | No. Forms will be reviewed next week. |
| 00:48.53 | olly | that's going to be a fun week for someone |
| 00:49.00 | Robert_S | :) |
| 00:49.06 | Robert_S | No comment. |
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| 00:52.33 | olly | sighs at students submitting a new proposal to finalise it |
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| 00:54.51 | olly | Robert_S: i guess someone's already suggested the page size should be remembered rather than resetting to 10 all the time? |
| 00:55.24 | Robert_S | Probably me. |
| 00:56.16 | Robert_S | Just filed a change request about it, but it's lowish priority. (But very annoying.) |
| 00:57.10 | olly | it was particularly so when we had 12 |
| 00:57.28 | Robert_S | Understandable. |
| 00:57.40 | olly | i think the torrent is starting now though |
| 00:57.53 | thiago | lots of submissions in the last 24 hours |
| 00:58.24 | meflin | the procrastinators rush has started |
| 00:58.41 | decltypeme | that is life :D |
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| 00:59.11 | meflin | 20+ more finals in the last 1-2 hours ... but my drafts are dropping |
| 00:59.48 | Robert_S | completed pdfs are hockeysticking. |
| 01:00.19 | Robert_S | meflin: iirc, draft means not final in that stat. |
| 01:01.39 | meflin | right lest drafts and more +20 finals |
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| 02:17.40 | jdehaan | Does anyone know the cutoff in credits for part time student status? |
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| 02:31.46 | Robert_S | jdehaan: ? |
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| 02:36.31 | jdehaan | @Robert_S The faq says the student mut be full-time or part-time in order to qualify. |
| 02:36.58 | jdehaan | I'm wondering if there is a minimum for credits that still let's a student qualify |
| 02:37.03 | Robert_S | If you need a specific answer, you should email the support address. |
| 02:37.22 | jdehaan | Ok |
| 02:37.35 | jdehaan | I just thought it would be easiest to check here first |
| 02:37.46 | Robert_S | This is not the primary support channel. |
| 02:38.01 | Robert_S | And I don't mean channel as in "irc channel" but in the more general sense. |
| 02:38.12 | Robert_S | goes to eat lentil soup. |
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| 03:05.21 | kknight | hello , i am participating second time |
| 03:05.43 | kknight | but this time i have not got any form to fill detail likr t shirt size and others |
| 03:06.31 | kknight | any idea? |
| 03:08.32 | thiago | the interface changed completely |
| 03:08.38 | kknight | yes |
| 03:08.41 | thiago | different tool |
| 03:08.56 | kknight | few other freinds told they are asked to filled tshirt size |
| 03:09.04 | kknight | m wondering why not me? |
| 03:09.17 | sttaylor | did you click on the ?I don?t want to receive promotional materials box?? |
| 03:09.23 | kknight | its not about tshirt its about getting selected in program |
| 03:09.31 | kknight | no |
| 03:09.35 | kknight | wheres that |
| 03:09.50 | kknight | promotional offer box m not seeing |
| 03:09.53 | sttaylor | you must have or you would have seen the tshirt size field |
| 03:10.47 | kknight | on top there are only three option dashboard , org and my account |
| 03:11.49 | kknight | sttaylor: you are from gsoc admin? |
| 03:14.49 | kknight | got it. |
| 03:16.03 | sttaylor | you found it in your profiel? |
| 03:16.06 | sttaylor | profile? |
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| 04:01.35 | olly | misspelling org name in proposal title - lose one point... |
| 04:02.52 | terri | olly: Iâm still waiting for someone to say theyâre applying to work with âpythongâ (our most popular typo elsewhere) |
| 04:03.18 | olly | presumably there's actually a project called pythong? |
| 04:03.36 | terri | if there isnât, i should make one. :) |
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| 04:04.43 | terri | itâll be about underwear design using python |
| 04:04.48 | olly | interestingly, the meaning varies with location |
| 04:05.06 | olly | I was surprised by the sign on an australian bar door saying "no thongs" |
| 04:05.22 | terri | thatâs true, it could be sandal design |
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| 05:01.16 | Partiks | How many have still not submitted their proposals ? They are like me ? ;) |
| 05:01.40 | Partiks | Last-Timers ? |
| 05:01.42 | Partiks | Anyone? |
| 05:03.33 | valorie | you still have time...... |
| 05:03.57 | valorie | $ date -u |
| 05:04.00 | valorie | Fri Mar 25 05:03:43 UTC 2016 |
| 05:04.24 | Partiks | yeah, will probably start now :) |
| 05:04.59 | Partiks | $echo "Linux cmd runs?" |
| 05:05.07 | Partiks | $date -u |
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| 05:05.12 | Partiks | $ date -u |
| 05:05.35 | alokanand | this is not a shell Partiks |
| 05:05.49 | Partiks | Haha got it |
| 05:08.09 | valorie | one can run a shell in konversation though |
| 05:08.12 | valorie | :-) |
| 05:09.08 | olly | so unambitious - you think you might have a remote shell, and the command you try first is "echo"! |
| 05:09.45 | Partiks | Tried simple one first I guess |
| 05:09.47 | Partiks | not pro |
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| 05:10.08 | bshah | hmm |
| 05:10.19 | bshah | :P |
| 05:11.29 | terri | We have one project I wanted to save a slot for that has no complete applications right now! |
| 05:11.53 | terri | So I hope itâs just that people are waiting for the last minute |
| 05:12.32 | SwapneelM | terri : Can you tell us more about this project or Organization? |
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| 05:12.53 | Partiks | Terri : how do you know no one has applied ? |
| 05:13.09 | terri | SwapneelM: this is the FAT Python under the Python Software Foundation. Idea #1 on this page: https://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode/2016/python-core |
| 05:13.14 | terri | Partiks: Iâm the org admin |
| 05:13.15 | olly | terri: nibbles at the bait already |
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| 05:13.37 | Partiks | Go that right, terri! |
| 05:13.40 | terri | I just went through to send people reminders if they were missing information in their applications, and noticed no one had a complete one for that project |
| 05:13.47 | terri | Which is a pity âcause the mentor seems super cool! |
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| 05:17.00 | olly | project goal: "get a cool t-shirt from Google" |
| 05:17.08 | olly | now there's someone who gets what this is really all about |
| 05:17.17 | utkillr | Good morning! Can someone please tell me, what if I make 2 proposals for one company but 2 different projects? |
| 05:17.47 | olly | utkillr: the orgs are not in general companies |
| 05:18.11 | olly | utkillr: you can submit multiple ones to the same org, but I would talk to them first |
| 05:18.22 | terri | utkillr: you can submit up to 5 proposals, it doesnât matter if two are to teh same org. they can only accept one, though |
| 05:18.30 | valorie | companies? |
| 05:18.33 | valorie | oh, my |
| 05:18.40 | olly | a good proposal is a lot of work, so focussing on one is likely a better option |
| 05:18.57 | terri | olly: better than the one I saw where the abstract said simply âyesâ â Iâm not sure what that was about. |
| 05:19.17 | olly | if you're wanting to reduce the risk of being unlucky and applying to a very popular org, applying to a different org seems more sensible |
| 05:19.48 | terri | presumes someone mis-read the field, but imagines an entire project based around a 60âs rock band |
| 05:19.55 | utkillr | I called it companies because of lack of my english skills, sorry :) |
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| 05:20.07 | utkillr | Ok, thank you very much! |
| 05:21.07 | utkillr | I've just got 2 ideas and 2 good proposals. And the best of two is for the project where there are too much proposals submitted. So that's why I am thinking to submit two. |
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| 05:21.45 | olly | terri: more 70s than 60s |
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| 05:24.29 | valorie | too many proposals? |
| 05:24.41 | valorie | we like lots, so we have lots to choose from! |
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| 05:24.51 | valorie | if yours is the best, you get selected |
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| 05:46.23 | PratyushMishra | Hi. Does anyone know how to get in touch with Catrobat? I can't seem to get a response from them. |
| 05:47.33 | markedsea | is away (Auto away at Sun Mar 6 11:57:47 2016) |
| 05:48.22 | markedsea | Probably not on IRC. |
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| 06:08.39 | olly | PratyushMishra: i guess you mean the org catrobat, not the IRC user catrobat? |
| 06:09.29 | olly | if an org just doesn't seem to respond, all you can really do is apply elsewhere |
| 06:10.52 | olly | if an org don't respond now, that's not a great sign for how well they'll mentor you later |
| 06:11.26 | ayush_ | REGISTER ayush ayushsingh1997@yaho.com |
| 06:11.49 | olly | ayush_: i think you misspelled yahoo... |
| 06:12.33 | ayush_ | REGISTER ayush ayushsingh1997@yahoo.com |
| 06:12.45 | valorie | commands start with / |
| 06:12.56 | valorie | and you probably should do them in your server tab |
| 06:13.09 | olly | i'd guess android is a popular area, so they may just be getting more interested students than they can managed to respond to |
| 06:13.19 | ayush_ | ok thnks |
| 06:13.26 | olly | valorie: that's an excellent IRC pro-tip |
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| 06:14.12 | valorie | huh, or maybe not |
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| 06:23.43 | sandz | Hi..I have created my account on GSoC..and have uploaded the proof of enrollment.. |
| 06:24.02 | sandz | but not able to upload the proposal. |
| 06:24.20 | terri | sandz: did you select an org to send the proposal to? |
| 06:24.50 | sandz | oh ok..got it.. |
| 06:24.52 | sandz | thanks :) |
| 06:25.02 | terri | sandz: youâre welcome. Good luck! |
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| 06:36.28 | addydaddy | Hi, I recently got a mail saying I need to submit a proof of enrollment "form" as well...what's that about ? |
| 06:36.44 | addydaddy | Is it different from proof of enrollment ? |
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| 06:38.16 | addydaddy | bshah Was that for me ? |
| 06:38.25 | bshah | yes |
| 06:38.37 | addydaddy | :P |
| 06:38.56 | addydaddy | so I have to submit only 2 pdfd, right ? |
| 06:39.05 | addydaddy | *PDFs |
| 06:39.06 | bshah | addydaddy: correct |
| 06:39.19 | addydaddy | thank u very much :) |
| 06:39.34 | bshah | ome is your proof of enrollment and other is proposal |
| 06:39.49 | bshah | *one |
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| 06:52.08 | ralph_ | are 2 documents sufficient for verification |
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| 08:26.44 | valorie | psssh |
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| 08:57.45 | Guest94033 | in ur gsoc profile |
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| 12:23.48 | uliana | hi! I have a question. I have submitted my draft of proposal and my proposal too, and a mentor from organization says, that they have left a comment to my proposal. Could you please help me, where can I find it? Mentor says the comment is here, but I have an access error⦠https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/dashboard/organization/5353061883052032/proposal/6387593109307392/ |
| 12:24.35 | Ch3ck_ | uliana, Is it a document on Google drive? check on drive or where ever you stored the document originally |
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| 12:25.35 | uliana | Excuse me, do you mean my proposal or the document on this link? |
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| 12:28.09 | dattani | Are Employees at Google eligible for mentorship in GSoC? |
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| 12:29.02 | nicolassebrecht | uliana: mentors can add comments to proposal in their webapp interface. Those can't be read by applicants. You might want to ask your mentor where the comments stand exactly. |
| 12:29.25 | nicolassebrecht | dattani: I'm not aware of restrictions about mentors in this area. |
| 12:29.57 | uliana | nicolassebrecht, thanks you, Iâll ask them |
| 12:30.19 | nicolassebrecht | Why employees from all over the world could mentor but the Google employees? |
| 12:30.33 | CuriousLearner | uliana, the comments should be on the google docs link you shared. Please look in the proposal |
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| 12:31.56 | nicolassebrecht | CuriousLearner: this provided link is not about a Gdoc. I wonder the mentor failed at commenting the right place. |
| 12:32.18 | nicolassebrecht | How a student would guess a private link of a comment? |
| 12:32.34 | nicolassebrecht | (in the dashboard namespace) |
| 12:32.39 | CuriousLearner | nicolassebrecht, afaik a draft proposal link was recommended to be shared as a GDoc |
| 12:33.22 | CuriousLearner | It's better to ask from the mentor anyways. |
| 12:33.27 | nicolassebrecht | CuriousLearner: The Gdoc can be shared. The comments made on the dashboard aren't. |
| 12:33.36 | CuriousLearner | nicolassebrecht, alright. |
| 12:33.54 | nicolassebrecht | s/aren't/can't/ |
| 12:34.04 | CuriousLearner | but I'm not sure, if that person would get a reply, since all mentors are pretty busy right now. |
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| 12:35.04 | nicolassebrecht | CuriousLearner: Sure. That's sad mentors don't read Google's emails carefully. This was explained in there. |
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| 12:36.07 | nicolassebrecht | Especially since the process changed this year with the webapp migration. |
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| 12:39.06 | CuriousLearner | nicolassebrecht, alright, I was not aware of the web app interface though. |
| 12:45.51 | spectre | hey all! |
| 12:46.03 | spectre | will there be a way for orgadmins to manually assign mentors this year? |
| 12:46.43 | spectre | i can see "i want to mentor this proposal" |
| 12:46.45 | sttaylor | spectre: yes |
| 12:46.48 | spectre | ok, great :) |
| 12:46.49 | spectre | thanks |
| 12:47.10 | spectre | we usually decide on the mentors among ourself in a google spreadsheet, then just one admin does the assigning process |
| 12:47.17 | sttaylor | the I want to mentor is just for the mentor to show interest. The OA has to actually assign mentor(s) to a given student project |
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| 14:03.08 | *** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> GSoC Proposal Deadline is March 25th 19:00 UTC | http://g.co/gsoc | LESS THAN 5 HOURS LEFT |
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| 14:14.53 | Jonasrla | hello |
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| 14:16.23 | Jonasrla | Does anybody knows what happened to gensim? It has disappeared from organization list |
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| 14:19.05 | teepee | Jonasrla: I'm still getting 180 orgs as before |
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| 14:23.22 | sttaylor | Jonasrla: Just responsed to your email |
| 14:23.33 | sttaylor | Gensim was never an org with GSoC (they didn?t even apply) |
| 14:23.34 | Jonasrla | thank you |
| 14:23.42 | sttaylor | are they a subproject of a larger or maybe? |
| 14:24.07 | sttaylor | maybe with Python Software Foundation or Apache or one of the other orgs? |
| 14:24.44 | Jonasrla | well, that's the problem of clincking a lot of links and checking them latter |
| 14:24.58 | Jonasrla | I found this on my stack |
| 14:24.59 | Jonasrla | https://github.com/piskvorky/gensim/wiki/Student-Projects |
| 14:25.13 | Jonasrla | so they must be there. It might be another name |
| 14:25.20 | Jonasrla | I'm going to ask them |
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| 14:26.10 | teepee | Jonasrla: did you ever click on the first link on that page? |
| 14:26.25 | Zephman_ | How does the selection process work after March 25? |
| 14:27.08 | teepee | Jonasrla: well second actually "read this general summary before applying." |
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| 14:28.42 | gevaerts | There are only two differences in names of organisations between when the list was first published and today. Both are corrections of obvious typos and similar errors |
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| 14:30.34 | Jonasrla | I did, they are just setting their expectations. That link is actually from Python GSoC |
| 14:31.03 | teepee | yep, it's a PSF page, so I guess you'll find them as suborg there |
| 14:31.36 | teepee | I guess it would have been not a bad idea to at least write that explicitely on the page though |
| 14:32.43 | teepee | anyway, if you still need to put in a proposal, you are running out of time fast... |
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| 14:40.28 | Jonasrla | found it! |
| 14:40.36 | Jonasrla | it's part of numfocus project |
| 14:41.01 | Jonasrla | I did some web history research :) |
| 14:41.17 | teepee | a sub-sub-project? |
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| 14:42.18 | gevaerts | I sup-pose :) |
| 14:42.50 | teepee | well, it's complicated |
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| 14:48.41 | teepee | oops |
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| 14:57.09 | Robert_S | kblin++ # thank you for topic update. |
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| 15:02.33 | curiousme | is it too late to apply |
| 15:02.56 | Sunny_ | I have applied for summer internships in google this year but forgot attached my transcript , instead of that I have submitted my work experience certificate at NGO, so what can I do now ? Am I still eligible ? |
| 15:03.19 | Robert_S | curiousme: Just under four hours. |
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| 15:04.17 | curiousme | @robert_s i meant practically, i read somewhere that students have been interacting from january |
| 15:04.54 | gevaerts | curiousme: all else being equal, you'd be at a disadvantage compared to those. All else usually isn't equal though |
| 15:04.58 | Robert_S | curiousme: practically? it's too late. but if you're really good with proposal writing, there's still a slim chance. |
| 15:05.21 | curiousme | thanks for your answers |
| 15:05.23 | Jonasrla | hey! Don't mock my project! lol |
| 15:05.35 | Zephman_ | How ill the proposal selection work? |
| 15:05.46 | Zephman_ | After March 25, what happens exactly? |
| 15:05.49 | gevaerts | If you still have to select a project, I don't think it's realistic. If you "just" have to do the formal bits of applying, go for it. Anywhere in between, who knows? :) |
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| 15:07.36 | gevaerts | Zephman_: the details will vary widely depending on the organisation, but organisations look at proposals, maybe talk to students, make notes, have heated internal arguments, and make a decision |
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| 15:11.57 | sils | Hey, does anybody know until when we can sign up new mentors? |
| 15:12.33 | gevaerts | sils: as far as I know, until the end of the coding period. New mentors can be needed at any time |
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| 15:12.56 | sils | ah, interesting. |
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| 15:13.52 | gevaerts | For an official answer, poke Robert_S :) |
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| 15:15.19 | sils | yeah it's like 8 am for him I guess and IT people usually come in later :P |
| 15:15.43 | Robert_S | new mentors can get added at all times. |
| 15:15.53 | sils | ah perfect! Awesome! |
| 15:15.55 | Robert_S | but don't expect answers from me in IRC today, I'm in and out a lot. |
| 15:15.57 | sils | Thanks. |
| 15:16.23 | Robert_S | (that was mostly for other questions) |
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| 15:20.02 | abhitochill | if i make a draft proposal ad i dont submit final it .. does it get auto submit as final proposal? |
| 15:20.07 | abhitochill | when deadline comes |
| 15:20.18 | meflin | no |
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| 15:24.36 | abhitochill | so if some student forgets to submit in final proposal.. he is out.. last time i recall it was that at deadline all proposal became final proposal themselves no? |
| 15:24.51 | bshah | no |
| 15:24.57 | bshah | this time system is different |
| 15:25.17 | bshah | and it was clearly mentioned in emails sent as well as webapp |
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| 15:26.07 | Zephman_ | Are organisation told how many slots they have to allocate now? |
| 15:26.13 | bshah | no |
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| 15:27.43 | bitd | Pretty clearly stated that you should submit your final proposal yourself. |
| 15:27.47 | abhitochill | ohk thanks bshah |
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| 15:27.59 | abhitochill | yeah it is.. was just confirming |
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| 15:29.17 | kaichogami | Hello, I have submitted my proposal although my mentor is not able to see under his dashboard. Is it normal? |
| 15:29.44 | bitd | Even received multiple emails. |
| 15:29.52 | teepee | kaichogami: you mean the final proposal? that will be possible only after the deadline |
| 15:30.03 | schnizzle | hey there, i have a question concerning the tax form, where should i upload it? should i append it to the proof of enrollment? |
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| 15:30.07 | teepee | kaichogami: the draft should be there though |
| 15:30.28 | kaichogami | Okay, then its all good. Thanks for your help! :) |
| 15:30.28 | abhitochill | tax form is needed after u get selected i suppose |
| 15:31.18 | schnizzle | abhitochill: thx :) |
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| 15:52.06 | Zephman_ | What's the acceptance rate for GSOC like? |
| 15:52.25 | teepee | !numapps | Zephman_ |
| 15:52.25 | gsocbot | Zephman_: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 15:54.04 | Zephman_ | so In 2015, every organisation on average got 416 proposals and accepted 137 of them? |
| 15:54.33 | teepee | nope, 416 orgs applied 137 were chosen |
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| 16:02.14 | Zephman_ | so 16% acceptance rate in 2015 for proposals. |
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| 16:03.09 | gevaerts | !odds | Zephman_ |
| 16:03.09 | gsocbot | Zephman_: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
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| 16:07.45 | aghisla | I can add that organisations ask slots for all good proposals, for which they have mentors available; some years they could ask for few, other years for many. The ratio between total proposals to that org and accepted proposals is not predictable. |
| 16:08.45 | aghisla | as admin I have observed that along the years my org got less and less proposals, but of higher quality, so that we usually asked and got the same amount of slots. |
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| 16:10.25 | Barun | Hi, if I graduate in March, and have received an offer of admission to another college beginning in Fall, do I qualify? |
| 16:10.58 | meflin | you have to be enrolled at the date in the faq |
| 16:11.16 | Barun | Gotcha, thanks |
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| 16:18.25 | Zephman_ | Do google themselves look at all the proposals? Like do both the organisation and google have to say yes for an accepted proposal? |
| 16:18.37 | meflin | no the org chooses |
| 16:19.01 | Barun | If a student applies and is ineligible, does the org get to choose again? |
| 16:19.05 | Barun | Or do they just loose a slot? |
| 16:19.25 | meflin | the slot is lost |
| 16:19.50 | Barun | Oh |
| 16:19.51 | s_aly | that's sad. |
| 16:19.55 | Barun | That is indeed sad :( |
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| 16:22.52 | Barun | Hypothetically, here's another interesting question :p |
| 16:22.52 | Barun | What if a new organisation has two slots |
| 16:23.01 | Barun | and recommends two students who are both ineligible? |
| 16:23.08 | meflin | oh well |
| 16:23.13 | Slurpee | "it's the final countdown" |
| 16:23.46 | Barun | The org just doesn't participate? XD |
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| 16:24.32 | s_aly | The question is Are all organizations supposed to participate? |
| 16:24.53 | meflin | the orgs on the list of orgs? yes |
| 16:26.18 | s_aly | so every one of them are entitled to at least one GSoC acceptee. |
| 16:26.39 | meflin | yes |
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| 16:34.17 | terri | s_aly: I think most top level orgs get offered at least 2. It's theoretically possible that they could turn everyone down if they didn't have any good students, but I've never heard of that happening. |
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| 16:35.06 | terri | but do remember, those numbers don't mean much for figuring out your acceptance chances |
| 16:35.20 | terri | !odds | s_aly |
| 16:35.20 | gsocbot | s_aly: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
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| 16:37.09 | s_aly | terri, I know, the reason that I asked was because of the scenario which Barun put forward. |
| 16:39.02 | terri | btw, if you *do* find out you're ineligible or get an internship between proposals closing and org selection, most orgs would appreciate you leting them know so they can offer the slot to a different student. |
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| 16:39.10 | Barun | Hi, sorry, I disconnected |
| 16:39.18 | Barun | What answer did I get? :) |
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| 16:42.43 | terri | Barun: if an org has no valid applications then yes, they would have to sit out the year. I don't believe this has happened to any top-level org, but it does happen to our sub-orgs occasionally |
| 16:42.55 | Barun | Ow |
| 16:43.03 | Barun | Well thank god my situation was purely hypothetical |
| 16:43.15 | Barun | That sounds like a terrible fate |
| 16:43.30 | terri | it would be pretty disappointing! |
| 16:43.44 | Barun | terri : Good luck with the PSF ! I was on the mailing list, and you're doing an awesome job :) |
| 16:44.04 | terri | Barun: thanks! |
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| 16:45.13 | guest23878 | Hi, I have submitted a proposal and I was wondering if I would be receving any confirmation mail regarding the submission ? |
| 16:45.37 | guest23878 | or the green enough assurance that the proposal is submitted correctly ? |
| 16:45.47 | meflin | the green is what matters |
| 16:46.18 | terri | guest23878: no confirmation mail for the submission, though |
| 16:46.41 | guest23878 | cool. Thanks terri and meflin |
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| 16:48.41 | *** topic/#gsoc by Robert_S -> GSoC Proposal Deadline is 25-Mar 19:00 UTC | TIME IS RUNNING OUT | http://g.co/gsoc |
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| 16:55.00 | guest23878 | On a serious note, I would have liked an automated confirmation mail regarding the submission. :) |
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| 17:05.04 | yashm | 2 hours till deadline |
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| 17:08.04 | vij | Can we submit the last year proposal with some modification, is it legal |
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| 17:12.27 | sttaylor | vij: you can but it likely will not be accepted this year either |
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| 17:19.58 | denix56 | we have less than 2 hours to make our final proposals just perfect :) |
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| 17:46.16 | sbol | who is still finishing up their proposals? :) |
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| 17:47.37 | AlexP11223 | They do not have time to answer :) |
| 17:48.13 | AlexP11223 | is finishing second proposal |
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| 17:51.12 | lpr | have just finished |
| 17:51.47 | worm | Hi, my name is parth from india, I came across one issue. |
| 17:52.15 | libracious_ | worm: shoot |
| 17:52.15 | worm | we have here 1 hour left and i have registered myself now for gsoc |
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| 17:52.48 | worm | but my dashboard shows the time is completed |
| 17:53.10 | worm | and i'm not able to apply |
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| 17:53.33 | AlexP11223 | what do you mean? show screenshot maybe |
| 17:54.58 | AlexP11223 | the "submit proposal" button is not in the dashboard but on the organisation page |
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| 17:57.20 | scorpionhiccup | @worm: Try checking your time and timezone setting of your system |
| 17:57.25 | worm | it got resolved it was my timezone problem |
| 17:57.35 | worm | but thanks for the help |
| 17:58.28 | markedsea | Just submitted my final proposal. The four hexagons should be filled, right? |
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| 17:58.46 | sbol | @markedsea yes |
| 17:59.43 | sbol | @scorpionhiccup why should timer rely on local timezone? After all, at least "Submit" button should work |
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| 18:00.16 | bitd | javascript most likely. |
| 18:00.21 | bitd | taking just a local timestamp. |
| 18:01.11 | sbol | @bitd still I'd just get remaining time from server and countdown it |
| 18:01.44 | bitd | Yep, but apparently someone made a booboo. |
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| 18:02.47 | Robert_S | I don't think that's it, or there would have been many more complaints of that issue. |
| 18:02.48 | bitd | Are we going to have a fancy countdown in here? >.> |
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| 18:03.18 | gevaerts | Qualification test 1: know how to set your system clock :) |
| 18:03.22 | meflin | !countdown |
| 18:03.23 | gsocbot | meflin: "countdown" is Don't start a countdown. You will be removed from the channel. |
| 18:03.49 | Robert_S | If you'd like a countdown, you can use this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekxN2vrIDtw |
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| 18:04.00 | Robert_S | Although the zero minute is somewhere in the middle. |
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| 18:05.10 | bitd | Haha oke, so no countdown, roger. :P |
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| 18:05.27 | terri | chill out and have some tea instead. :) |
| 18:05.56 | bitd | Its out of my hands now anyway :-) |
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| 18:08.25 | Robert_S | steps away from IRC. Back in a few hours. Have fun! |
| 18:08.49 | sbol | Who else ran into issue that big files aren't accepted as proofs of enrollment or is it only me? |
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| 18:08.59 | sbol | I tried to upload 35mb pdf |
| 18:09.35 | Guest15401 | Worked fine for me. What size was it? |
| 18:09.44 | meflin | sbol, there have been some issues with firefox ... but not based on size |
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| 18:10.24 | AlexP11223 | 35 mb seems too much for a proof of enrollment |
| 18:11.03 | meflin | try putting the PDF on a diet |
| 18:11.13 | sbol | meflin, I used chrome |
| 18:11.24 | bitd | 35mb? O_O |
| 18:11.30 | sbol | after all i compressed it to a 3mb file without loss |
| 18:11.47 | bitd | Are you trying to upload a biography? |
| 18:11.56 | sbol | yeah, 35mb, scanned color with 600dpi |
| 18:12.28 | bitd | 3mb did work? |
| 18:12.37 | sbol | yep |
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| 18:13.06 | sbol | it was smth like error 417 missing json or like this |
| 18:13.15 | sbol | I don't quite remember |
| 18:13.24 | sbol | and don't want to check now either |
| 18:13.31 | user__ | My proof of enrollment ~ 67mb. |
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| 18:16.55 | CuriousLearner | 35 MB is just way too much :O |
| 18:17.11 | CuriousLearner | 67 MB :| |
| 18:18.39 | user__ | original+transcription+translating in hd and in 1 pdf. |
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| 18:19.52 | gevaerts | wonders if the scanner didn't go higher than 600dpi |
| 18:20.59 | lpr | my hexagons have 1-2 vertical stripes |
| 18:21.21 | lpr | because i've set the default zoom in chrome to 125% |
| 18:21.22 | CuriousLearner | user__, that's actually too much :P |
| 18:22.26 | user__ | Hm, mentors have limited internet? |
| 18:23.42 | terri | some do, yes, but for proof of enrollment the mentors don't see that, just Google |
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| 18:24.16 | user__ | Ok, google have limited internet? |
| 18:24.27 | terri | presumably not. :) |
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| 18:25.24 | gevaerts | That doesn't make 35MB files a good idea |
| 18:26.39 | sharanag | HI, I wanted to know if we can re-upload the proposal PDF after the deadline, as some orgs allows students to edit their proposals even after the deadline is over? We could do that previous year as well, not sure about this year. |
| 18:27.14 | sttaylor | sharanag: no you can not upload a new proposal pdf after the deadline. that is what is being evaluated by the orgs |
| 18:27.35 | sttaylor | you can not continue to edit your proposal after the deadline, that would be unfair to all other applicants |
| 18:27.45 | sharanag | Okay, thanks. |
| 18:30.22 | drktrx | it was the orgs decision till last year to let students edit their proposals after the deadline AFAIK. but this time it is not |
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| 18:35.05 | sttaylor | a deadline is a deadline |
| 18:35.12 | Zephman_ | Out of curosity, what's the word count of your proposal? |
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| 18:37.00 | udiboy1209 | Zephman_: will that matter :P |
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| 18:37.23 | Zephman_ | udiboy1209: Probably not. |
| 18:37.52 | drktrx | 2407 |
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| 18:39.22 | panzone | Zephman_ : it doesn't really matter the word count. if you really want to know, 1208 and 1898 |
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| 18:56.23 | denix56 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.38 | carldani | denix56: you want to change your password. |
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| 18:57.07 | panzone | denix56: uh, you should change the password |
| 18:57.07 | carldani | denix56: now everyone in this channel and everyone reading the logs knows it |
| 18:57.40 | meflin | the public logs :) |
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| 18:59.12 | carldani | reminds me of someone using a swipe pattern unlock at a security conference while his tablet was attached to a projector |
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| 18:59.54 | sbol | countdown! |
| 18:59.56 | carldani | denix56: please change your password, everyone in this channel knows it |
| 19:00.05 | denix56 | i`ve done it |
| 19:00.11 | carldani | good |
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| 19:00.33 | shortstheory | almost time now guys! |
| 19:00.35 | Calinou | there's probably a no-countdown rule here |
| 19:00.41 | sbol | ok |
| 19:00.43 | meflin | !countdown |
| 19:00.44 | M-aviraldg | aw, I was expecting fireworks at the end of the countdown |
| 19:00.44 | gsocbot | meflin: "countdown" is Don't start a countdown. You will be removed from the channel. |
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| 19:01.03 | carldani | shortstheory: you should check your clock, it's off by a few seconds |
| 19:01.04 | sbol | well, ok |
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| 19:01.11 | shortstheory | :( |
| 19:01.28 | bitd | Now the real wait starts :P |
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| 19:01.32 | yashm | deadline over |
| 19:01.45 | udiboy1209 | yep |
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| 19:02.11 | gevaerts | Now the real *work* starts! |
| 19:02.15 | uajain | ~1 month |
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| 19:02.32 | bitd | gevaerts, pace yourself :P |
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| 19:02.55 | Zephman_ | So you find out if you're accepted on April 22? |
| 19:03.26 | yashm | How many freshmen here? |
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| 19:03.39 | Tahir_ | !nums |
| 19:03.39 | gsocbot | Tahir_: "nums" is see !numapps |
| 19:03.42 | panzone | Zephman_: yes, however you should spend this time making little contributions to your orgs ecc. ecc. |
| 19:03.47 | terri | Zephman_: yup, and please don't pester your mentors asking before then; they arne't allowed to tell you and can get trouble if they do. |
| 19:03.51 | Tahir_ | !numapps |
| 19:03.51 | gsocbot | Tahir_: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 19:04.32 | holloqq | its all over |
| 19:04.38 | holloqq | for now |
| 19:04.56 | holloqq | student applications end |
| 19:05.04 | M-aviraldg | Is it against the rules in any way to go ahead and do projects from the org's GSoC idea list? |
| 19:05.12 | sttaylor | and we had a record number of applications and registrations this year. We?ll announce the numbers next week. |
| 19:05.12 | d3r1ck | Title for the Channel can now be changed :) |
| 19:05.15 | M-aviraldg | (in this month) |
| 19:05.30 | sttaylor | Thank you to all of the mentors and org admins for all of your hard work too! |
| 19:05.34 | benstrumental | Org admin here - The Dashboard displays the text: "You have until March 25, 2016 at 12:04 (PDT) to input your https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/slot-allocation.". Is this an error? |
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| 19:05.39 | tomg | Is it a problem if I submit my proof of enrollment later? My university is doing maintenance activities so I cannot use the web application to download my proof of enrollment. |
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| 19:05.49 | s_aly | !numapps |
| 19:05.49 | gsocbot | s_aly: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 19:06.08 | sttaylor | TomG: If you didn?t submt your proof of enrollment you have missed the deadline and are not eligible |
| 19:06.26 | sttaylor | benstrumental: yes that is an error. |
| 19:06.33 | sttaylor | Slot allocations aren?t until April 11th |
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| 19:06.41 | benstrumental | sttaylor: phew, thanks |
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| 19:07.15 | tomg | I did submit my proposal today, but the maintenance began earlier this morning. I had not idea. |
| 19:07.21 | sttaylor | thanks for the heads up on that though, we are on it |
| 19:07.51 | s_aly | if one submitted the proof of enrollment, however since Google hasn't reviewed our submitted proofs are we ineligible if Google finds them to be insufficient? |
| 19:07.58 | lasconic | non eligible student proposals are not listed for mentors/admin right? |
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| 19:08.38 | lasconic | ok, read the history, not yet reviewed, so they are probably listed |
| 19:08.45 | meflin | if your proof is insufficient you will be given a chance to send a new doc |
| 19:08.46 | decltypeme | s_aly: if your proof of enrolment was rejected you will get a chance to upload another one that is what i heard on the channel yesterday |
| 19:08.53 | AlexP11223 | tomg: why would you wait two weeks to submit a proof? especially after e-mail with remainders about that |
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| 19:09.17 | s_aly | thanks decltypeme. |
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| 19:09.35 | s_aly | Mine might get rejected. i am not sure. |
| 19:09.39 | yashm | Any freshmen here? |
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| 19:09.51 | s_aly | Sophomore. |
| 19:10.02 | tomg | I just heard about GSOC a couple of days ago. The previous days I was working hard of getting everything together, but this slipped my mind. |
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| 19:10.34 | yashm | Does the organization review proposals or does Google too? |
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| 19:10.42 | meflin | the orgs |
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| 19:11.16 | tctara | wait... do I have to submit a proof of enrollment by today or by April of 22nd ?? |
| 19:11.26 | nicolassebrecht | looks like I unable to start proposals. |
| 19:11.34 | nicolassebrecht | I'm* |
| 19:11.36 | decltypeme | tctara you should have done so already |
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| 19:11.40 | olasd | tctara: I believe, you had to do so by 12 minutes ago |
| 19:11.42 | nicolassebrecht | star* |
| 19:11.53 | meflin | the proposal time has ended |
| 19:12.01 | benstrumental | !numapps |
| 19:12.01 | gsocbot | benstrumental: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 19:12.06 | nicolassebrecht | Looks like I'm unable to star proposals. |
| 19:12.08 | sttaylor | yashm: the organization reviews all proposals, Google does not review proposals |
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| 19:12.21 | tctara | but... I already submitted all the final proposal and thought that the proof of enrollment can be done later before 22nd of April |
| 19:12.38 | tctara | I have mine.. but not in English.. that's why I had to request a new one.. |
| 19:12.52 | sttaylor | tctara: no, it had to be done today, by the deadline. be sure to read the directions carefully |
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| 19:13.17 | tctara | so does that mean my submitted proposal ??? |
| 19:13.23 | tctara | what will happen ?? |
| 19:13.26 | tctara | * |
| 19:13.39 | sttaylor | tctara: sorry but you will have to try again next year. In the meantime you should reach out to the org you wanted to apply to and do some worj k with them this year, it will help you gain experience for next year |
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| 19:14.24 | tctara | OMG...... |
| 19:14.36 | tctara | but I putted so much work into it this year... |
| 19:14.44 | tctara | I missed the last year too... :( |
| 19:14.59 | s_aly | Do the orgs have access to which other orgs an applicant has applied to? |
| 19:15.35 | Rajat | may be try contacting google through there mailing list @tctara |
| 19:15.36 | tctara | I thought the dealine of the enrollment is before the 22nd |
| 19:15.43 | sttaylor | s_aly: ni |
| 19:15.46 | sttaylor | no |
| 19:15.52 | shortstheory | tctara: isn't the upload button still there? |
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| 19:16.07 | tctara | it's still there |
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| 19:16.15 | s_aly | sttaylor, as far as they are concerned you've only applied to them? |
| 19:16.30 | tctara | but.. my current proof is not in English. |
| 19:16.34 | s_aly | tctara, try uploading then? |
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| 19:17.02 | sttaylor | s_aly: yes |
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| 19:17.09 | tctara | but It's not an English version... and it's not even scanned yet too |
| 19:17.10 | yashm | tctara, had your current proof been unacceptable, they would've asked you to upload another after deadline |
| 19:17.23 | zvrk_ | You can upload proof on your native language with translation. |
| 19:17.31 | udiboy1209 | yashm, are you sure about that ? |
| 19:17.36 | sttaylor | tctara: I?d recommend uploading if you can, it shouldn?t let you and if it does it?s a big and will be fixed very shortly |
| 19:17.42 | Rajat | tctara you can provide its translation in english by translating it yourself |
| 19:17.56 | atul | tctara, upload the untranslated for now |
| 19:18.22 | yashm | udiboy1209, yeah thats what I read on the website |
| 19:18.27 | s_aly | just take a pic with cellphone and try uploading. |
| 19:18.43 | nicolassebrecht | mentors: how do you star proposals? |
| 19:18.51 | tomg | I've been able to successfully upload a picture of my student card. :) |
| 19:18.53 | udiboy1209 | yashm, thats good. I was worried mine might have a problem |
| 19:19.17 | s_aly | tomg, that's good. |
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| 19:20.21 | s_aly | udiboy1209, yes. |
| 19:20.42 | tomg | Yeah, I hope it's ok now, because I really have put some effort in it. |
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| 19:21.15 | tctara | OMG.... I'm shaking right now... :( I've put so much time and work into it |
| 19:21.26 | TheMonster | did you try uploading it tctara? |
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| 19:21.32 | atul | you tried ? |
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| 19:21.50 | tctara | copying the photo into pc |
| 19:21.51 | tomg | @tctara I completely understand |
| 19:22.24 | udiboy1209 | tctara you should probably stop writing on irc for the moment |
| 19:23.26 | s_aly | upload it tctara. Hopefully it'll work out. |
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| 19:26.18 | AlexP11223 | btw why GSoC application period is so short?:) I think 4 weeks is not that much to find/research a suitable project and make a good proposal, especially when combined with study in university |
| 19:26.27 | tctara | the damn iphone is not recognized by my linux rig..... |
| 19:26.38 | tctara | I started on mine sine November |
| 19:27.00 | PulkoMandy | AlexP11223: you can prepare before the official application period opens |
| 19:27.20 | tctara | I looked at last year orgs.. and find relating information and start contriubuting |
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| 19:27.53 | TheMonster | tctara: can't you upload directly through your iphone? |
| 19:27.58 | akki | try uploading by the iphone itself. |
| 19:28.09 | akki | yes, exactly... |
| 19:28.28 | tctara | okayyy.... I uploaded it... and It seems happy okayy..... but.. I'm not sure |
| 19:28.35 | tomg | (y) |
| 19:28.36 | tctara | been refreshing webapp like crazy |
| 19:28.41 | atul | :) |
| 19:28.44 | TheMonster | great :) |
| 19:29.02 | tctara | but.. it's in my Language I'll reupload the English one 2mororw |
| 19:29.12 | Rajat | congo.. do upload its translation as well :) |
| 19:29.16 | AlexP11223 | PulkoMandy: yeah, but if it is the first time than it may be hard to find orgs and their gsoc tasks + google may not accept the org |
| 19:29.29 | tctara | they've delayed the English version for almost 2 weeks now |
| 19:29.46 | tctara | thanks you guys so much.... XD |
| 19:29.53 | TheMonster | tctara: If I were you, I'd start writing an English translation and try uploading it now... I'm not sure if that's necessary but just saying |
| 19:29.53 | valorie | working for FOSS orgs is never a waste |
| 19:29.55 | tctara | I was litterally shaking |
| 19:29.56 | yashm | tctara, best of luck man |
| 19:29.58 | udiboy1209 | tctara: thats great |
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| 19:30.33 | PulkoMandy | AlexP11223: even if the org you worked with does not do GSoC, you can learn a lot about how open source projects work and contribute some useful code |
| 19:30.37 | tctara | thanks everyone :) |
| 19:30.41 | udiboy1209 | :) |
| 19:30.56 | wasiq | PulkoMandy, exactly. |
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| 19:31.06 | Slurpee | Robert_S, idea for future...add an option similar to star and ignored for spam. Then keep a central listings of spam proposals to help all orgs same as a spam filter. |
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| 19:31.32 | Rajat | tctara you can provide its translation in english by yourself there is no need of providing actual translation by your university. |
| 19:31.34 | tctara | TheMonster: thanks for the tip. but it's 2:30 AM here.. it's hard to get the document scanned |
| 19:31.41 | sttaylor | benstrumental: where are you seeing that timeline error? can you refresh your page and let me know where it is coming up? Thanks |
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| 19:31.57 | wasiq | Rajat, use camscanner if you have an android phone |
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| 19:32.22 | M-aviraldg | Slurpee (IRC): There are spam proposals? Why would one even bother? :| |
| 19:32.29 | wasiq | tctara, use camscanner if you have an android phone |
| 19:33.37 | meflin | sttaylor, dashboard display mini-time line error persists |
| 19:33.37 | Slurpee | M-aviraldg, surprisingly, many spam proposals |
| 19:33.49 | olly | M-aviraldg: people think it is just a lottery I guess |
| 19:33.51 | sttaylor | Slurpee: Ignored is generally used for spam |
| 19:34.01 | meflin | sttaylor, slot deadline is always current time |
| 19:34.46 | Slurpee | sttaylor, my assumption is that multiple orgs are receiving the same spam proposals generalized to a fairly generic topic. Figured this is a way to save everyone time. |
| 19:34.51 | olly | It was much worse when students could submit up to 20 proposals |
| 19:34.52 | sttaylor | thanks meflin that?s the issue |
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| 19:35.03 | meflin | sttaylor, yes |
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| 19:35.22 | tctara_ | sorry lost my connection there. |
| 19:35.36 | M-aviraldg | Do you mean direct copy-pastes of orgs' ideas lists or literal spam? |
| 19:35.40 | meflin | sttaylor, also do not seem to be able to put numbers into it |
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| 19:35.54 | wasiq | tctara, use camscanner if you cant get a scan. |
| 19:36.11 | terri | M-aviraldg: both, mostly copy-pastes of identical, irrelevant, proposals |
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| 19:36.29 | sttaylor | Slurpee: ah gotcha, good point we?ll look into it |
| 19:36.34 | olly | M-aviraldg: the former or stuff like "I want to work for you |
| 19:36.45 | M-aviraldg | ehh... |
| 19:36.47 | olly | With no protect details |
| 19:36.56 | akki | Don't we have any public links for our submitted proposal ? |
| 19:36.57 | olly | Project |
| 19:37.05 | akki | link |
| 19:37.20 | pertschy | !numapps |
| 19:37.20 | gsocbot | pertschy: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 19:37.21 | M-aviraldg | Shouldn't be too difficult to do something like what SO does with it's question composer |
| 19:37.38 | M-aviraldg | akki (IRC): just use your GDoc link? |
| 19:37.40 | terri | M-aviraldg: the most famous of which was a student who send probably 50+ messages in the mentor application field saying he wanted to work with "Most Desirable Organization" |
| 19:38.01 | terri | I suspect this is why there was no mentor application field this year (and thank you for that, Robert_S) |
| 19:38.02 | Slurpee | sttaylor, example, I just spent 20 minutes ignoring proposals I assume other orgs received too. So all those orgs are going to have to ignore them too. My idea's goal is to save everyone time. Some of proposals look real, then you open it...then it is obviously fake. |
| 19:38.14 | tctara | downloading camscanner |
| 19:38.16 | M-aviraldg | Haha :D |
| 19:38.18 | tctara | wasiq: thanks :) |
| 19:38.24 | M-aviraldg | ScanBot is better :) |
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| 19:38.47 | wasiq | tctara, any time. |
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| 19:42.59 | akki | On my proposal page I see a line "If this proposal is accepted, you will be able to edit the title and the abstract of your proposal after April 14, 2016." |
| 19:43.23 | akki | Does that mean I would know if I am selected or not on April 14 itself ? |
| 19:44.35 | meflin | no |
| 19:44.44 | meflin | student selection is on the 22nd |
| 19:44.51 | olly | It can't become editable before the announcement as the selected students can change up until then |
| 19:45.05 | akki | So whats on 14th ? |
| 19:45.09 | olly | So the date there is presumably just an error |
| 19:45.29 | akki | ohh.. |
| 19:46.07 | olly | Robert_S, sttaylor: ^ |
| 19:47.00 | sttaylor | the 14th is a copy error it sounds like |
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| 19:47.16 | sttaylor | yes, you can upload after April 22nd if you are accepted into the progra, |
| 19:47.18 | sttaylor | program |
| 19:47.19 | Rajat_ | Good luck all with your proposal :) |
| 19:47.25 | yashm | What if my proposal isn't very good but I keep on working on project till April 22 |
| 19:47.28 | yashm | will take increase my chances |
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| 19:49.06 | s_aly | yashm, probably not. |
| 19:49.52 | valorie | yashm: it more likely to make a difference if you stick around and fix bugs |
| 19:50.10 | valorie | in KDE at least, we consider proposal+student |
| 19:50.29 | Rajat_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.39 | valorie | we want people who will stick around after GSoC is long over, to support their own code and their team |
| 19:50.53 | terri | yashm: maybe. Weâre supposed to judge the final proposals as we see them, but a dedicated student who works well with the development team can get in even if the proposal is lackluster. |
| 19:51.54 | yashm | valorie: yeah am planning to do that. I picked up a project on Qt and am finding it quite interesting so I'll probably stick around |
| 19:52.04 | nicolassebrecht | Oh, we can't edit our own comments on proposals??? |
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| 19:52.49 | panzone | so, can I delete my draft now ? |
| 19:54.18 | s_aly | that's interesting. |
| 19:55.34 | benstrumental | sttaylor: Refreshed and it now displays April 11, 2016 properly |
| 19:56.11 | meflin | mine works now as well |
| 19:56.24 | sttaylor | thanks all : ) |
| 19:57.11 | sttaylor | panzone: you can delete your draft but you might as well keep it, it doesn?t hurt anything in case the mentors want to review their comments to you, etc. |
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| 19:58.01 | sttaylor | nicolassebrecht: do you mean on the org member view? no, that is to keep a thread for your org to know what members are saying about a proposal |
| 19:58.36 | kamesh | I need help, I want to withdraw my proposal and from GSoC after submission/HELP |
| 20:00.46 | jamm | kamesh: there's a "withdraw from program" button here https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/dashboard/profile/ |
| 20:02.24 | kamesh | thankyou@jamm |
| 20:03.14 | kamesh | will my proposal stays with the server? |
| 20:03.23 | nicolassebrecht | sttaylor: I'm a mentor. |
| 20:03.24 | kamesh | or gets deleted. |
| 20:04.12 | nicolassebrecht | sttaylor: my main issue is that I can't star proposals. |
| 20:04.18 | shortstheory_ | why would anyone withdraw? |
| 20:04.20 | nicolassebrecht | Or I don't know how to do that. |
| 20:04.37 | s_aly | on what basis is the no. of slots for each org decided? based on the number of proposals received for each org? |
| 20:04.43 | gevaerts | shortstheory_: lots of reasons. Life happens |
| 20:05.21 | shortstheory_ | slots are decided on how happy the students are with the org at the end of the gsoc period wrt previous years |
| 20:05.25 | nicolassebrecht | sttaylor: nor ignore proposals either, BTW. |
| 20:05.35 | shortstheory_ | and orgs specify min/max slots they require |
| 20:05.54 | shortstheory_ | valorie: just wondering - how many proposals had KDE gotten this time? |
| 20:05.54 | gevaerts | s_aly: organisations will decide how many slots they'd like after looking at the proposals, and then the organisers on the google side allocate based on that and other criteria |
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| 20:06.28 | s_aly | alright thanks. |
| 20:07.24 | gevaerts | shortstheory_: I understand the min/max thing is gone and it's just a single number this year |
| 20:07.41 | meflin | its min/max |
| 20:07.50 | sttaylor | yes there is a min/max |
| 20:08.05 | gevaerts | Ah, I understood wrong then |
| 20:08.15 | kamesh | if i withdraw the program what happens to my proposal? will it get deleted? |
| 20:08.54 | olly | kamesh: does it matter? |
| 20:09.06 | kamesh | yes really |
| 20:09.28 | kamesh | very important it matters a lot thats why i withdraw |
| 20:10.09 | kamesh | olly: help me |
| 20:10.55 | sttaylor | kamesh: yes your proposal will be deleted |
| 20:11.09 | kamesh | thank you : sttaylor |
| 20:11.21 | sttaylor | well the copy on our site. if you shared a link with your org you would need to change your settings there |
| 20:11.46 | valorie | shortstheory_: we got 20 or so while I slept! |
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| 20:12.01 | valorie | 123 total for KDE, however two are clearly spam |
| 20:12.25 | valorie | no idea about those last 20, because the site isn't working for me right now |
| 20:13.36 | valorie | system now says 119 complete proposals, so obv. they are working on the site |
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| 20:17.04 | Diyora | Hello |
| 20:17.12 | olly | valorie: might be due to fixed the enrollment upload cutoff |
| 20:17.25 | olly | *to fixing |
| 20:17.32 | Diyora | The deadline for the program was listed as Due: March 26, 2016 at 00:00 (UZT) for me |
| 20:18.14 | Diyora | Unfortunately that means not midnight |
| 20:18.20 | valorie | could be |
| 20:18.27 | Diyora | but March 25 midnight |
| 20:18.30 | valorie | I just kept checking date -u |
| 20:18.46 | meflin | the clock on your computer is probably off ... its 19:00 UTC March 25 (the past ) |
| 20:18.51 | Diyora | Damn. I even submitted a draft 4 days ago |
| 20:18.54 | olly | 24:00 would be the end of 26th |
| 20:18.56 | shortstheory_ | valorie, wow that is a LOT of proposals! Guess it's going to be super competitive this year |
| 20:19.21 | valorie | shortstheory_: don't worry, as the comics say: 90% of everything is crap |
| 20:19.27 | valorie | :-) |
| 20:19.37 | Diyora | This is pretty confusing |
| 20:19.39 | TheMonster | hehe |
| 20:19.44 | shortstheory_ | xD |
| 20:19.47 | valorie | yes, there will be competition, but the good students rise to the top |
| 20:19.54 | M-aviraldg | kamesh (IRC): do you mind me asking why you want to withdraw? |
| 20:19.56 | M-aviraldg | (just curious) |
| 20:19.58 | Diyora | they should have said 23:59 for deadlines |
| 20:19.58 | sbol | big projects as KDE always have a lot of attention |
| 20:20.10 | valorie | Diyora: if you have not submitted your final proposal, it's too late |
| 20:20.19 | gevaerts | Diyora: the deadline that was mentioned in several places was 19:00 UTC |
| 20:20.22 | valorie | by well over an hour |
| 20:20.30 | Diyora | Anyway, to get them pick it up? |
| 20:21.01 | valorie | pick what up? |
| 20:21.06 | TheMonster | The site shows the deadline in your timezone... Unluckily for Diyora, in his timezone it was midnight which usually confuses people |
| 20:21.12 | Diyora | my prosoal |
| 20:21.22 | kamesh | M-aviraldg : not so much to feed your curiosity..spelt name and university name wrong |
| 20:21.23 | meflin | there are no extensions |
| 20:21.29 | valorie | if it was not uploaded by the deadline, it is too late |
| 20:21.42 | Diyora | @TheMoster |
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| 20:21.56 | Diyora | Yes, that's what happened. I thought I had another day left |
| 20:22.12 | M-aviraldg | Why would you want to withdraw your proposal for that? Just tell the org that and I'm sure they can overlook it. |
| 20:23.18 | Diyora | Is someone on here, who is responsible for the processing is willing to make an exception? |
| 20:23.18 | kamesh | M-aviraldg : but you don't know what's with that name and all... |
| 20:23.34 | AlexP11223 | why would the org even care about your name and university?:) |
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| 20:24.01 | kamesh | ALexP11223:because that wasn't my name |
| 20:24.26 | meflin | Diyora there are never any extensions |
| 20:24.31 | olly | Diyora: the line is "no exceptions" unfortunately |
| 20:25.28 | Diyora | melfin :( |
| 20:27.30 | kamesh | Diyora: I were you I would have tried using VPN for changing location, hoping that might work |
| 20:27.53 | olly | kamesh: no, the deadline is the same moment everywhere |
| 20:28.01 | olly | it's just shown in localised time |
| 20:28.14 | Diyora | yeah that wouldn't help |
| 20:28.36 | gevaerts | If I'd been shown a potentially confusing time such as 0:00, I'd have checked if there was a clearer statement elsewhere |
| 20:28.41 | M-aviraldg | kamesh (IRC): how could it not be your name? o.O |
| 20:29.22 | kamesh | olly: yes, same everywhere but if my time is +of GMT and i would try to use location -of GMT . am i wrong? |
| 20:29.31 | olly | kamesh: yes |
| 20:29.53 | kamesh | olly: how? |
| 20:29.57 | olly | the server would flip a bit at the deadline in the local time of the server |
| 20:30.05 | olly | so everyone gets the cut-off then |
| 20:31.02 | kamesh | olly: that stands only after the deadline not before the deadline, so that i can save some 5 hours , right? |
| 20:31.15 | meflin | no |
| 20:31.28 | meflin | because the time is UTC same all over the world |
| 20:31.50 | kamesh | M-aviraldg: my tutor's name |
| 20:31.57 | olly | kamesh: feel free to set up multiple VPNs to test this... |
| 20:32.33 | M-aviraldg | hmm... |
| 20:32.36 | kamesh | olly: okay, thanks for the information |
| 20:32.53 | olly | meflin: but what if someone was moving at near lightspeed and then submitted? |
| 20:33.03 | gevaerts | That one is easy! |
| 20:33.23 | gevaerts | olly: such a person has access to an energy source so big they wouldn't care about gsoc :) |
| 20:33.29 | meflin | heh |
| 20:34.36 | kamesh | olly:whats the time there (local)? |
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| 20:37.47 | olly | the time where? |
| 20:38.37 | olly | FWIW, you can just ask google - e.g. search for: time in london |
| 20:38.53 | gevaerts | On the spaceship of your lightspeed traveler :) |
| 20:39.05 | olly | stardate 1307.4 |
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| 20:40.47 | Diyora | ok, ugys |
| 20:41.04 | Diyora | ok, guys. i just a result. i was not picked |
| 20:41.42 | Diyora | cuz i stuck at step 3 -- submitting proposal. good luck to all. ill try next year |
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| 20:45.03 | ramindus | hi |
| 20:45.27 | ramindus | I unable to upload my proposal on time |
| 20:45.33 | ramindus | iwas filling the form |
| 20:45.41 | meflin | the deadline has passed |
| 20:45.49 | ramindus | can anyone please help? |
| 20:46.09 | ramindus | I have worked very hard for this project |
| 20:46.26 | olly | ramindus: there are no extensions - you can get involved with an open source org still, but not via gsoc this year |
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| 20:46.50 | ramindus | yes I can understand |
| 20:46.59 | olly | the deadline is strict, and the advice is strongly not to leave uploading to the last minute |
| 20:47.11 | ramindus | Is there any way to submit the proposal? |
| 20:47.18 | olly | sorry, no |
| 20:47.19 | meflin | no |
| 20:47.38 | ramindus | thank you for your support |
| 20:47.40 | olly | or not for 11.5 months |
| 20:47.50 | s_aly | we should always keep the deadline one day before the actual deadline. |
| 20:48.02 | s_aly | those reminder emails from google were helpful. |
| 20:48.03 | ramindus | yes I can understand |
| 20:48.27 | ramindus | thanks for the support |
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| 21:05.50 | kj007 | hi guys |
| 21:06.20 | teepee | hi kj007 |
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| 21:14.23 | teepee | sure |
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| 21:22.00 | s_aly | hello |
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| 21:37.42 | marncz_ | how many proposals did you submit? |
| 21:38.02 | meflin | me 0 |
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| 21:51.04 | mark42 | hi guys |
| 21:52.15 | mark42 | now that application period is over, what next should i be doing ideally? |
| 21:52.57 | marncz_ | wait untill 22/04 |
| 21:53.09 | marncz_ | until* |
| 21:53.42 | meflin | work with your group get your dev env set up fix some bugs familiarize with the code base |
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| 21:56.03 | mark42 | should i remain in contact with organisations too ideally? |
| 21:56.19 | meflin | yes |
| 21:56.43 | mark42 | ok thanks for quick response! |
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| 22:06.15 | *** topic/#gsoc by Robert_S -> GSoC 2016 Projects announced April 22nd | http://g.co/gsoc | No deadline extensions will be granted. |
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| 22:09.54 | jatin30 | Hi any admin here? |
| 22:10.35 | *** topic/#gsoc by Robert_S -> GSoC 2016 Projects will be announced on April 22nd | http://g.co/gsoc | No deadline extensions will be granted. |
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| 22:11.48 | meflin | jatin30, if you have a question just ask it |
| 22:12.43 | valorie | lots of us are admins, to answer that specific question |
| 22:12.54 | jatin30 | meflin: Just wanted to ask that is it possible to start contributing even if my project proposal is rejected |
| 22:13.11 | valorie | of course, jatin30 |
| 22:13.13 | meflin | ofcourse! |
| 22:13.37 | jatin30 | thanks! |
| 22:13.37 | valorie | meflin: jinx! |
| 22:13.55 | valorie | fixing bugs, documentation, etc. is welcome always |
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| 22:14.52 | valorie | KDE even sets up a program called Season of KDE to guide students who didn't get into GSoC, a bit later in the year |
| 22:15.22 | valorie | no money, but there is a certificate and tshirt and sometimes extra goodies as well |
| 22:15.25 | jatin30 | because i definately wanna apply next year regardless of the fact that i get selected this year or not as i have started enjoying it. |
| 22:15.29 | jatin30 | Oh cool! |
| 22:16.16 | jatin30 | so I see LibreOffice particiapting this year! Is it its first year? |
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| 22:17.09 | olly | jatin30: fairly sure they've taken part before |
| 22:17.38 | jatin30 | olly: cool! thanks :) |
| 22:17.55 | olly | might have been before libreoffice forked off |
| 22:23.29 | olly | website seems a bit confused - "11-12 of 12" and it's showing me 4 proposals |
| 22:23.57 | valorie | search is a bit dotty right now |
| 22:24.04 | Robert_S | Search is hard. |
| 22:24.18 | Robert_S | olly: Can you PM me the link that shows the wrong number? |
| 22:24.47 | olly | if i can relocate it i will |
| 22:26.16 | Robert_S | Thanks. But I've also seen similar oddities and when I have good (reproducable) bug reports, I make sure they get filed. |
| 22:26.42 | olly | it doesn't seem to repeat on demand |
| 22:26.47 | Robert_S | :( |
| 22:27.03 | olly | not helped by getting blank results lists sometimes (which IIUC valorie reported already) |
| 22:27.42 | valorie | I have a feeling demand on the site might have something to do with it |
| 22:27.47 | olly | FWIW, it was sorting ignored proposals by student name |
| 22:27.59 | olly | and it seemed to be showing 8-12 |
| 22:28.49 | Robert_S | The web was easier when all the logic was on the backend. |
| 22:29.07 | olly | paged search results are surprisingly tricky to get right even server side |
| 22:30.30 | Robert_S | :) |
| 22:31.15 | olly | Robert_S: ok, so I have two ignored incomplete proposals - I suspect that might be relevant |
| 22:31.28 | Robert_S | Yeah, ignored proposals totally mess with the counts. |
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| 22:31.36 | Robert_S | Can you PM me the link? |
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| 22:32.15 | olly | i don't have one yet, or do you just mean something which shows the org? |
| 22:34.29 | Robert_S | nods. |
| 22:37.09 | olly | do withdrawn proposals now vanish without a trace from the org view? |
| 22:37.30 | Robert_S | Yes, I think. |
| 22:37.38 | Robert_S | There might be an email to OAs. |
| 22:37.46 | Robert_S | Although that might not happen till later phases. |
| 22:38.03 | olly | i read something about ones without valid student proof disappearing eventually |
| 22:38.16 | olly | one student submitted the final as a different proposal |
| 22:38.31 | olly | but I think they then added a final to the other one and withdrew the duplicate |
| 22:38.37 | Robert_S | nods. |
| 22:39.12 | olly | they're lucky I noticed and unignored the first one |
| 22:39.55 | Robert_S | yeah. |
| 22:40.29 | Robert_S | I'm going to step away for a while. Thanks to everyone for your help today! Will check in later. |
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