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00:22.36joseph9hello everyone, I have a problem concerning my prove of enrollment. I summitted my proposals before the deadline but failed to submit my prove of enrolment. Please is there anything i can do ?
00:23.05meflinthe deadline has passed and there are no extensions
00:23.13meflintry again next year
00:23.52joseph9So there is no room for any consideration?
00:23.58meflinno
00:24.25teepeeI'm still a bit puzzled, didn't others say you can't even upload a proposal without the proof first?
00:24.44meflinyou can draft I think
00:25.15meflini'm unclear on that ... but the deadline is ... the deadline
00:26.18teepeeyeah, gsoc always had strict deadlines, probably no other way with that many applications
00:34.01joseph9please i have rally worked hard for this gsoc 2016 to come up with the proposals and its because my school delayed to give me the document i was suppoaed to submit as prove of enrolment
00:34.20meflinthere are no extensions ever
00:35.54joseph9So even the mentors for the project can be of help or its needless contacting them.?
00:36.34meflinno they can't
00:37.22marncz_can't you upload it now? i have got an option to reupload mine
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00:52.05Robert_SYou can only re-upload it if you've already uploaded it.
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02:14.02bshahgod.. teh thread about deadlines </rant>
02:15.12meflinI've deleted 7 replys
02:15.47bshahwell they are called "deadlines" for reason..
02:16.49teepeeyeah, having the strict deadlines are pretty much the only possible way
02:17.02teepeeI do think it would make sense to let students register earlier
02:21.09ollywas slightly hesitant about replying to it, but I felt it should not just be people wanting extensions and stephanie saying no
02:22.30meflinolly, good job I couldn't find a way to be ... nice
02:25.35teepeetotally agrees with ollys mail
02:26.04teepeehaving a bit more time to know the org is accepted before the students start applying would probably be nice
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02:26.12meflinagree
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02:26.35teepeeat least for small and/or sub orgs it's not much time
02:26.38meflinon time ... meh I could go either way
02:26.40ollyit'd make it more feasible to do org-specific publicity too
02:28.06meflinthat is a good point
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02:41.59Robert_Solly: There are early discussions about schedule changes in the future.  That sentence was intentionally vague :)
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07:08.29drktrxhello my mentor says he cannot see my proposal in the gsoc portal but i submitted the final pdf well before deadline. anyone facing a similar problem?
07:09.42jammdrktrx: maybe send the link to the final proposal?
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07:12.58drktrxok will do that
07:13.52sttaylordrktrx: did you also submit your proof of enrollment form before the deadline
07:14.02drktrxyes i did
07:14.12drktrxvery well before the deadline
07:16.11valoriedrktrx: when you login, do you show as having a complete proposal?
07:17.16drktrxyes everything on my side is as it should be. i see all hexagons filled and status = "final proposal submitted"
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07:19.44ollydrktrx: it's possible someone's accidentally clicked "ignore" on it and it's hidden from the default list
07:19.56ollyyour mentor could check the "ignored" list
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07:30.46aj007How does the proof of enrolment verification works?
07:31.47aj007All the participants who have submitted their proposals will be verified or the proposals which are forwarded by the organizations to google are verified ?
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07:32.54ollyaj007: all those who have submitted are checked it seems
07:38.20aj007you sure about it olly ?
07:39.38ollyI can only go on what people from OSPO say - I can't see what they actually do
07:40.01ollybut it seems implausible they could leave it until the orgs have selected students
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07:49.46sttayloraj007: Google reviews all proof of enrollments for students submitting their final pdf and poe forms - yes it?s a lot...
07:49.58sttaylorthen we mark them as rejected or accepted
07:50.08sttaylorstudents will receive an email either way
07:50.27sttaylorand if rejected there will be a reason why and then the student will need to resubmit their form within a specified time
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07:58.33aj007Thank you for the information :-)
07:59.57jammsttaylor: if i used the same proof of enrolment that worked last year, will there be any issues this year?
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08:00.16sttaylordepends on the proof of enrollment
08:00.26sttaylorif it was a dated letter it will not work
08:00.39jammit's an ID card with the validty till June 2016
08:00.41sttaylorif it is a school ID that shows it is valid until a date after April 2016 then it is fine
08:00.51sttaylorif is an old school transcript no
08:00.58sttaylorthen yes
08:01.02sttaylorit will be fine
08:01.14jammsttaylor: alright, thanks! :)
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11:14.55pertschy!numapps
11:14.56gsocbotpertschy: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
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11:17.26pertschy!timeline
11:17.27gsocbotpertschy: "timeline" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
11:18.45pertschy!next
11:18.46gsocbotpertschy: "next" is 25 March 19:00 UTC Student application deadline.
11:19.09bshaheh
11:19.15pertschy^ caught
11:19.22bshah!forget next
11:19.23gsocbotbshah: The operation succeeded.
11:19.39bshah!learn next as 22 April 16:00 UTC Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2016 site.
11:19.39gsocbotbshah: "next" is 22 April 16:00 UTC Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2016 site.
11:19.42bshah!next
11:19.43gsocbotbshah: "next" is 22 April 16:00 UTC Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2016 site.
11:19.49bshah:)
11:19.53pertschy:)
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11:22.22pertschybshah, how many proposals in total this year?
11:23.01bshahno idea
11:23.09bshah<- org admin
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11:44.20jamm!next
11:44.21gsocbotjamm: "next" is 22 April 16:00 UTC Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2016 site.
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14:55.58ybakos_Forgive the desperate question, but is there a way to submit a late proposal now, if it has been informally received a positive review from project owners?
14:57.18ybakos_never mind, seems this has already been asked in the discussion group.
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15:11.10pertschyNo deadline extensions will be granted.
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15:15.14drktrxhello i earlier posted that my mentor is not able to see my final pdf proposal. he says he sees it now. thanks to everyone for responding
15:17.00gevaertsAh, he found his glasses? :)
15:17.12teepeeor refreshed the page
15:17.31teepeeI had the link disabled after the deadline, it only showed up after refreshing everything
15:18.27drktrxheh dont know. but he definitely had me worried
15:19.26teepeeyeah, that's understandable
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16:45.35CuriousLearner!next
16:45.36gsocbotCuriousLearner: "next" is 22 April 16:00 UTC Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2016 site.
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18:17.11siawis it a good idea to contact mentors after application deadlines?
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18:21.42andy_kamathIs it possible that a selected org doesn't select any student for the gsoc ? Is there any org in the past gsoc, who was selected for gsoc but didn't choose any student for gsoc ?
18:22.09meflinsiaw, yes keep working with your org
18:22.26meflinandy_kamath, yes, but as far as I know ... no
18:22.43siawmeflin: but i mean contacting them about your proposals for example?
18:23.24meflinsiaw, sure why not ... keep in mind they might be busy doing things like reading and analyzing a bunch or proposals and its a holiday in much of the world
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18:26.13BarunMost new organizations get two slots, right?
18:26.26meflin1 or 2 yes
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18:26.32wasiqhappy easter all of you :)
18:27.00BarunAllright, thanks :)
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18:30.46siaw2 slots as in the number of proposals they can accept?
18:31.05meflinfor most new orgs yes
18:31.12siawah i see
18:31.30meflinexperienced orgs have no limit
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18:31.46meflinthis makes sure that new orgs do not bit off more then they can mentor ;)
18:31.51meflins/bit/bite/
18:32.54BarunAnd orgs accepted once in the past will naturally get more?
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18:33.13meflinit depends on if they want more
18:33.35BarunYea, and mentor shortages are acute
18:33.47meflinsometimes quality students are the shortage
18:34.24BarunThe completion rate is still very high though :)
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18:35.19meflinwell that leads to the quality student shortage ;)
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18:44.10siawit’s the first time i applied to gsoc
18:44.21siawhow do i increase my chances of being chosen next year
18:44.33meflinkeep working with your org
18:44.41siawjust like that?
18:44.42meflinthe more you get involved the more you learn
18:44.50siawah
18:45.13meflineven if the org you work with does do gsoc next year the learning will be invaluable
18:45.18siawwhen you say “keep working with your org” you mean by contributing to their open source projects?
18:45.20meflins/does/doesn't/
18:45.23meflinyes
18:45.39siawok
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19:54.07shubham03!numapps
19:54.07gsocbotshubham03: "numapps" is 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 proposals (by 4425 students). 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students).
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