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| 11:08.27 | ignotus_ | Hello |
| 11:09.01 | ignotus_ | I have missed the deadline to upload a proof of enrollment, is it still possible to submit it? :-/ |
| 11:09.22 | Freso | ignotus_: No. |
| 11:09.27 | Freso | !deadline |
| 11:09.27 | gsocbot | Freso: "deadline" is explanation |
| 11:09.35 | Freso | Wow... |
| 11:09.40 | Freso | !forget deadline |
| 11:09.41 | gsocbot | Freso: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:10.09 | olly | !explanation |
| 11:10.24 | olly | it seems there is no explanation |
| 11:11.15 | ignotus_ | Damn, I got a connection with a mentor already |
| 11:11.17 | Freso | !learn deadline as All GSoC and GCI deadlines are hard deadlines and there will be made no exceptions. |
| 11:11.18 | gsocbot | Freso: "deadline" is All GSoC and GCI deadlines are hard deadlines and there will be made no exceptions. |
| 11:11.36 | Freso | Too harsh? |
| 11:12.19 | olly | too ungrammatical |
| 11:12.30 | ignotus_ | okay, thank you, I will notify my mentor then |
| 11:13.03 | olly | ignotus_: just to check, you've not uploaded a proof at all? |
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| 11:13.38 | olly | if you uploaded one and it was rejected, you still have a bit of time to upload another |
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| 11:14.45 | ignotus_ | olly: yes, I have made a proposal, but didn't upload a proof, because I thought the deadline is later as I did in the previous year |
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| 11:15.22 | ignotus_ | so the proposal itself has been submitted in time |
| 11:15.55 | olly | yeah, you have to provide proof of enrollment sooner than you used to |
| 11:16.22 | ignotus_ | this status check box has made me confused http://i.imgur.com/ApagoC4.png |
| 11:16.26 | olly | though I think in between you had to upload it in order to be able to submit a proposal, which at least makes it more obvious |
| 11:16.29 | ignotus_ | "Nice work" |
| 11:17.43 | ignotus_ | olly: are you a rensponsible person from Google or somebody else? |
| 11:17.51 | olly | somebody else |
| 11:20.17 | ignotus_ | Okay, I will write into the mail list, Hope it was a hard deadline for proposal itself but not for a proof |
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| 11:20.32 | Freso | There are very, very few people here who are actually from Google. |
| 11:20.39 | Freso | I think 3 at peak times or so. |
| 11:20.45 | Freso | (Now is not a peak time.) |
| 11:20.51 | Freso | And it was a hard deadline for proof too. |
| 11:20.59 | Freso | You're not the first to ask about it. |
| 11:21.09 | olly | ignotus_: it's definitely a hard deadline for the proof |
| 11:21.16 | ignotus_ | :( |
| 11:21.50 | olly | it's come up on the mentors list, several times |
| 11:26.20 | kblin | ignotus_: yeah, you appear to be in good company |
| 11:29.26 | ignotus_ | kblin: you have the same problem? :) |
| 11:29.51 | olly | kblin got his proof in about 12 years ago |
| 11:30.28 | kblin | :) |
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| 11:30.55 | ignotus_ | Carol is not working for GSoC anymore, don't know to whom to contact even |
| 11:31.45 | olly | there's a contact email on the website, but you really won't get an exception |
| 11:31.53 | olly | they've said no a number of times now |
| 11:32.11 | olly | sorry, but that's the situation |
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| 11:33.46 | gevaerts | Wasn't the rule about proof first then proposal introduced last year? |
| 11:34.00 | kblin | !support | ignotus_ |
| 11:34.01 | gsocbot | ignotus_: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
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| 11:34.35 | kblin | but as olly said, previous experience says they'll say "no" again |
| 11:35.37 | kblin | it even says so in the chanel topic |
| 11:37.02 | olly | gevaerts: 2014 |
| 11:37.26 | olly | or at least in my blog post that year I said "I suspect the improved quality and the even more marked spike as the deadline nears may be due to the new requirement that students upload proof that they are enrolled before they can submit a proposal" |
| 11:37.51 | gevaerts | Ah, even earlier then |
| 11:38.15 | olly | overall that seemed a good plan I though |
| 11:38.17 | olly | (thought |
| 11:38.20 | olly | *thought |
| 11:38.49 | kblin | right, I think it's just that the web interface, while having a fancy material design look, did not communicate this loudly enough |
| 11:39.06 | gevaerts | is still a bit confused. A few weeks ago it seemed that no proposal could be uploaded without proof of enrollment, and now people appear to have done so... |
| 11:39.23 | gevaerts | Or is it that you couldn't upload a draft and they didn't check for the final one? |
| 11:39.27 | olly | yes, i was under the impression that was a requirement this year |
| 11:39.46 | kblin | yeah, no idea what's going on there |
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| 11:39.59 | kblin | and as far as I'm aware, we can't even check the code this time around |
| 11:40.00 | olly | maybe students were assuming that was the case based on last year |
| 11:40.11 | olly | no, closed code |
| 11:40.16 | olly | and no public bug tracker |
| 11:41.15 | kblin | anyway, back to work, want to squash that bug before the weekend |
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| 11:41.31 | gevaerts | watches the bug try to squash kblin |
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| 15:11.20 | cdesai | one thing I noticed, regarding what was last talked about here. |
| 15:11.20 | cdesai | my proof got rejected, then I got something else which did get accepted in a few hours, and the e-mail said: |
| 15:11.20 | cdesai | Your Proof of Enrollment has been approved. Your proposal(s) are now available to be selected by the Organization(s) you submitted to. |
| 15:11.48 | cdesai | so does that mean the org didn't see me as somebody who had submitted a final proposal till then? |
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| 15:22.13 | gevaerts | cdesai: that's a good question, but I don't know. I suspect organisations can't actually select proposals yet (because the number of slots hasn't been decided yet), so as far as I can see it's entirely possible there's *no* actual effect in your case |
| 15:22.25 | gevaerts | If you find out I wouldn't mind knowing though :) |
| 15:22.41 | gevaerts | (knowing things is helpful when the next person asks) |
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| 15:31.01 | Dragooon | Cdesai: i had a similar question for my organisation, I'd suggest asking them directly. |
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| 15:39.57 | cdesai | gevaerts: Dragooon thanks, will do. |
| 15:40.20 | cdesai | one thing that _might_ have helped me is the org made us put proposals on their wiki, and what I have there right now matches the final proposal. |
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| 16:53.49 | Dragooon | cdesai: You'll probably be okay, many students will be having the same thing and orgs would keep it in mind before reviewing proposals. You can just nudge them and ask if your proposal was submitted okay and they can see it. |
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| 17:52.59 | oleg-nenashev | Hi. Does anybody know where the "Export proposals as..." button is located in the new interface? |
| 17:54.53 | meflin | denter of dashbord ... exports |
| 17:55.50 | oleg-nenashev | meflin: Thanks a lot! |
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| 18:08.34 | oleg-nenashev | Oh my, no student e-mails there... |
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| 19:40.20 | Freso | cdesai Dragooon, org.'s aren't shown the status of the enrollment proof on the web interface, but see your proposals the same as anyone else's. |
| 19:40.34 | Freso | (As long as final proposal + a proof has been uploaded by the deadline.) |
| 19:40.48 | Dragooon | Freso: Ah okay, it's just the e-mail is confusingly worded |
| 19:41.19 | Freso | We're not able to select your proposal once we get to that phase if your proof has not been approved. |
| 19:41.38 | Freso | But as gevaerts said, we're not quite there yet. |
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| 20:05.10 | benstrumental | Hello, what is the purpose of the minimum number of slots requested? |
| 20:05.59 | benstrumental | i.e. if we want to request 2 slots, what should we put for our minimum? 0-2? 1-2? 2-2? |
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| 21:13.29 | valorie | benstrumental: 2-2 |
| 21:16.45 | benstrumental | valorie: What is the purpose of the minimum field? |
| 21:21.38 | valorie | the big orgs might have a spread |
| 21:22.13 | valorie | "we absolutely NEED 30" and "we would totally love to have 40" |
| 21:24.18 | benstrumental | valorie: OK Thank you for the clarification |
| 21:24.33 | valorie | yw, and best of luck! |
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