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13:11.44traszguys, what's the procedure for submitting the final result (the source code) on final evaluation?
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13:26.26teepeetrasz: you didn't get the mail?
13:31.47traszteepee: ah, the https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/work-product?
13:31.54traszteepee: thanks!
13:32.11teepeeyup, that's it
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20:03.00nikivihey all
20:03.16nikiviI am currently studying computer science at university
20:03.21nikiviand I really wish to participate in GSoC next year
20:03.40nikiviI am currently learning iOS development
20:04.09nikivibut I am wondering whether there are any iOS projects that I could take related to iOS next year
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20:04.53teepeethere are probably some, but the number of open source iOS is not that huge
20:04.55nikivior perhaps it's better to focus on something else if I want to participate in it
20:05.28teepeeat any rate, nobody can tell yet how next years gsoc will look like, especially which projects are going to take part
20:05.56nikiviteepee some organisations though have a tendency to reapply and be accepted though I think
20:06.29teepeetrue, but after some time, those may take a pause to give chances to other projects
20:07.27nikiviI want to try and find some organisation that may be accepted for next year
20:07.32nikiviand try and contribute early
20:07.47nikivibut I am not really sure what to choose
20:07.49nikiviand how to approach it
20:07.51gevaertsAs far as I remember, every single year at least one of the organisations that had taken part in all gsocs up to that point has left
20:08.05teepeesounds like gambling
20:08.08gevaertsSo no, there are no safe organisations :)
20:08.20teepeeI'd suggest to pick something interesting to work on now to see how things work
20:08.48teepeeyou can always do some other gsoc project
20:09.10nikiviI am curious
20:09.17nikiviin order to be accepted for the project
20:09.29nikiviwhat kind of contribution counts
20:09.39nikiviI always found it very difficult to contribute to some large project
20:09.45nikivibecause it is quite overwhelming
20:09.46teepeemainly the project proposal
20:10.06gevaertsThat's going to depend a lot on the organisation
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20:20.31PulkoMandynikivi: hi, don't hesitate to ask for help when getting started with a project. A lot of them need more people contributing and will make everything so you feel welcome. If it doesn't work, maybe you chose a project not in that situation, try a few other ones until you find one where you feel welcome
20:21.29PulkoMandyno one is able to understand the codebase of these large projects on its own, and unfortunately the documentation isn't always complete or up to date
20:21.39PulkoMandy(or maybe I don't work with the right projects either :))
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21:12.41valorieteepee: you are looking at it backwards IMO
21:12.49valoriefind something you love, and work on it
21:13.09valorieor something you love, except for that *one annoying problem*
21:14.15valorieall your FLOSS experience will help you in GSoC, whether or not that particular org participates or not
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21:21.54olly_gevaerts: not true for the first year...
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21:47.55teepeevalorie: how so, that's what I said
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21:56.15valorieteepee: my point is to focus on what you love
21:56.29valorienot on GSoC as such
21:57.01teepeeagain, what I said
21:57.12teepeewill drop that useless discussion now
21:57.17valoriein KDE I've seen for years that the students who are doing work they love already make the very best GSoC students and we would love to pick 100% students like that
21:58.00valorieoops, I should have directed my remarks to nikivi
21:58.03valoriesorry, teepee
21:58.39nikivivalorie yeah I agree with you
21:58.58nikiviit's just that I fear I lack the skills to contribute to the project even if I do love it
21:59.14valoriepfff, I'm not even a coder
21:59.22valorieand I contribute with all my heart
21:59.38valorieyou have strengths and skills which is what you have to give
22:00.43valoriethere is no better way to learn than because you really want and need to
22:01.38valorieit's the absolute opposite of taking a crap class because the rules say you have to
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