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| 02:23.50 | olly_ | </summit> |
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| 02:46.01 | r0bby | olly_: I'm sad panda |
| 02:46.14 | r0bby | who else is sad panda? |
| 02:46.54 | olly_ | Too exhausted to know what I am |
| 02:47.35 | downey | olly_: same, but now in the air and about to sleep |
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| 02:48.33 | olly_ | My flight isn't for another week |
| 02:48.40 | r0bby | I don't remember if I met olly_ |
| 02:48.53 | olly_ | r0bby: you did |
| 02:49.08 | r0bby | oh...i forgot |
| 02:49.31 | r0bby | which org? |
| 02:49.31 | olly_ | Donut forget me |
| 02:49.45 | r0bby | You made that joke, that I remember |
| 02:49.48 | olly_ | Xapian |
| 02:50.02 | r0bby | ah yea -- probably during the SFC session |
| 02:50.06 | olly_ | At least that's who I'm here representing |
| 02:50.08 | r0bby | s/session/meetup/ |
| 02:50.13 | olly_ | Yes |
| 02:50.18 | olly_ | And the spam session |
| 02:50.43 | r0bby | hmm -- everybody seems to know me and I know so few -- or maybe it's a lot of faces to remember |
| 02:52.25 | olly_ | There are certainly a lot of people who look familiar but I'd struggle to fully place without a badge to clue me in |
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| 02:53.50 | r0bby | yeh -- that's the issue -- I saw a lot of people...some people I know because I've seen them multiple times |
| 02:54.51 | downey | Back when we did a wiki for mentor summit we had people who would post their photos, name, bio, etc |
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| 02:55.16 | r0bby | Why did they do away with that |
| 02:55.19 | r0bby | WHY?!?! |
| 02:55.26 | r0bby | osuosl used to donate it iirc |
| 02:55.32 | jn__ | were there presentations on successful or interesting GSoC projects? |
| 02:55.50 | r0bby | jn__: If a student passed, for better or wose it's successful |
| 02:55.58 | r0bby | and MANY interesting projects, MANY |
| 02:56.06 | downey | jn__: there was a 2-hour session of lightning talks which highlighted projects |
| 02:56.23 | r0bby | It went over 2hrs actually downey |
| 02:56.29 | jn__ | i should become a mentor so i can see this myself :) |
| 02:56.48 | downey | jn__: but primarily mentor summit is to just hang out and talk about random geeky topics |
| 02:56.50 | r0bby | jn__: you should -- it's great -- however your org decides if you go -- they only get so much money to send you |
| 02:57.12 | r0bby | I myself waitlisted myself as soon as they announced it |
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| 15:04.18 | needtocode | which organisations have prerequisites as java only? |
| 15:06.28 | needtocode | what can an amateaur programmer do to increase his/her chances of gsoc selection? |
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| 15:08.08 | teepee | one way is to start working with an open source project before to see how things work |
| 15:08.59 | needtocode | any suggestions as to which project should I choose? |
| 15:09.18 | needtocode | I did a lot of research in the main website of gsoc |
| 15:09.33 | teepee | specific one... no, but the suggestion would be to find something that matches personal interests |
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| 15:09.47 | teepee | as motivation is one big part of the whole thing |
| 15:10.04 | needtocode | but couldn't find something simple enough to suit my knowledge |
| 15:10.43 | needtocode | Can I just spectate the process of development of an open source projects |
| 15:10.45 | teepee | pretty much all projects on the gsoc website have a list of issues that can be done without much insight into specifics |
| 15:11.11 | teepee | and are also friendly to questions on irc or mail or whatever they use as communication channel |
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| 15:17.43 | needtocode | let us consider the organisation kde. It has a project "https://www.google-melange.com/archive/gsoc/2015/orgs/kde/projects/tootis.html". It involves concepts that I do not understand. |
| 15:18.14 | needtocode | but gsoc is mainly meant for undergrad students. |
| 15:18.24 | teepee | if that sounds interesting, just ask them |
| 15:18.42 | needtocode | they only have limited knowledge in programming fields. |
| 15:19.07 | needtocode | And I'm interested in contributing to it |
| 15:19.16 | needtocode | but I don't know how to |
| 15:19.56 | needtocode | If I can know where to learn about these things, |
| 15:19.58 | teepee | exactly as you do here right now :) |
| 15:20.05 | needtocode | that would of great help.. |
| 15:20.27 | teepee | tell them you are interested and ask for some details |
| 15:21.21 | needtocode | obviously I can't ask where do i learn sqlite, what is kqslave etc |
| 15:21.28 | needtocode | they would kick me out |
| 15:21.36 | needtocode | lol |
| 15:21.58 | teepee | well, yes, just asking "show me what to do is generally not going somewhere" |
| 15:22.14 | teepee | but you can try digging into the topic with the ressources on the web, reading stuff |
| 15:22.23 | teepee | and then asking specific things on their mailing list |
| 15:23.03 | teepee | picking a not too difficult topic first is also quite sensible, like looking for some bug and solve that first |
| 15:23.20 | teepee | to see how processes work and if you like to work that way |
| 15:24.24 | needtocode | yes , my colege senoirs say that their first commit was properly indenting the code. But now those projects seem to have been lost ! |
| 15:25.12 | teepee | that still exists, e.g. the linux kernel people tend to suggest starting that way. but every poject is different |
| 15:25.42 | teepee | like libreoffice had a list of topics like "translate the old german comments to useful english comments" :) |
| 15:25.55 | teepee | so you picked that digikam topic |
| 15:25.59 | teepee | did you check their website? |
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| 15:26.58 | needtocode | no i didn't. |
| 15:27.46 | teepee | I'd suggest to do that and have a look at the navigation box |
| 15:27.47 | needtocode | I just picked an example to show that each project has some jargon that i feel is difficult to comprehend. |
| 15:28.09 | teepee | well, then just go though with that example :) |
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| 15:29.34 | needtocode | but it isn't advisable for beginners isn't it? |
| 15:29.43 | needtocode | *is it? |
| 15:29.53 | teepee | this specific topic? probably not |
| 15:30.17 | teepee | but still just open the digikam webpage and have a look at navigation |
| 15:32.09 | needtocode | yes, i'm in. |
| 15:32.42 | teepee | they have both "Contribute" and "Contact" |
| 15:32.49 | needtocode | I see a list of pages and blog entries |
| 15:33.17 | needtocode | yup |
| 15:34.02 | teepee | so if you fancy to work with that project, follow that and see how it works out |
| 15:34.23 | needtocode | okay. |
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| 15:34.34 | needtocode | things are starting to make sense. |
| 15:34.46 | teepee | seems they have a channel here on freenode too :) |
| 15:35.26 | needtocode | just out of curiousity, where do people report their bugs? |
| 15:35.38 | needtocode | is the list made public? |
| 15:35.49 | teepee | for them, it's linked on the contact page |
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| 15:36.27 | needtocode | i'm sorry, i didn't see the page properly.. |
| 15:36.29 | teepee | usually it's all public, that's the whole idea for open source projects |
| 15:36.35 | needtocode | My bad. |
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| 16:08.14 | needtocode | what exactly do people write in their sop a few months before gsoc? |
| 16:09.12 | needtocode | is it the new additional functionality they wish to add to the organisations project if organisation selects him? |
| 16:09.34 | needtocode | or the bugs the guy would try to fix? |
| 16:10.01 | needtocode | or is it the contribution he has ALREADY made to the organisation? |
| 16:11.17 | jn__ | what's a "sop"? |
| 16:11.32 | needtocode | is the new functionality to be added decided by the organisation, the gsoc aspirant, or both? |
| 16:12.09 | needtocode | Statement of Purpose |
| 16:12.18 | jn__ | by the GSoC student. |
| 16:12.32 | jn__ | the org can have a list of ideas, though |
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| 16:12.55 | jn__ | and the student can choose from these ideas or come up with something else |
| 16:14.24 | needtocode | cool |
| 16:14.33 | needtocode | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:14.52 | jn__ | the student guide explains it all pretty well |
| 16:15.00 | jn__ | !studentguide | needtocode |
| 16:15.00 | gsocbot | needtocode: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
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| 18:30.00 | needtocode | does mozilla participate in gsoc? |
| 18:31.44 | jn__ | needtocode: it's hard to know whether it will participate in the future, but it has participated before |
| 18:32.45 | jn__ | needtocode: see https://wiki.mozilla.org/SummerOfCode |
| 18:34.14 | needtocode | jn__, do you mind if I pm you ? |
| 18:34.59 | jn__ | if you can ask a question in the channel, please ask it in the channel first |
| 18:35.17 | needtocode | ok |
| 18:35.46 | needtocode | After a lot of time, I decided to try to apply to mozilla |
| 18:36.21 | needtocode | only to find out that it is not sure that it would participate in gsoc next year |
| 18:37.00 | teepee | we'll only know once the project selection is finished |
| 18:37.19 | teepee | that's somewhere january or february next year |
| 18:37.22 | teepee | !timeline |
| 18:37.22 | gsocbot | teepee: "timeline" is https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline |
| 18:37.40 | teepee | February 27 16:00 UTC |
| 18:38.45 | needtocode | so, for now I should keep contact with 3-4 organisations and try to contribute to them. Is that the best an aspirant can do at this point of time? |
| 18:39.10 | teepee | I'd suggest to choose one you like to work with |
| 18:39.29 | teepee | if they end up not to apply or not being selected it's still possible to work with some other org |
| 18:39.47 | teepee | but the experience will still be useful |
| 18:40.46 | needtocode | I am glad to know that. :) |
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| 18:44.57 | shiri04 | hello world |
| 18:46.10 | teepee | hello shiri04 |
| 18:46.34 | shiri04 | i am new to this world |
| 19:01.02 | loganade1 | hoi |
| 19:01.13 | loganade1 | list of organizations for google code-in ? |
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| 19:03.42 | blast007 | loganade1: the timeline says that the organizations will be announced November 7th. https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/timeline |
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| 23:14.18 | srishakatux | hello! Is there any admin around? I would like to know if an individual could participate as a mentor with multiple organizations in Google Code-In? |
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| 23:39.33 | alicef | srishakatux: you need tn be a core member of such organization for mentoring |
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