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| 03:51.08 | terri | Does anyone know if thereâs a way to export the student and mentor evals from the gsoc system? |
| 03:51.31 | terri | Iâm trying to do my backups before Nov 15 as the reminder email said |
| 03:59.18 | olly_ | terri: not looked yet but for melange I exported via a Firefox extension as MHTML or MAFF |
| 04:00.14 | terri | olly_: yeah, I might have to do that. It looks like the mentor-written evals are on each student page, and thatâs the only way to get them. |
| 04:00.41 | terri | olly_: and I canât see the student-written evals for most of the org at all, only for the students where I was a backup mentor. This is sad, I found that feedback really super useful. |
| 04:00.55 | olly_ | Hmm |
| 04:01.28 | olly_ | Not sure I've looked this year but as you say it was very useful |
| 04:01.55 | terri | ah, no, found the student info! just was looking at the wrong screen. |
| 04:02.06 | olly_ | Oh cool |
| 04:02.17 | terri | Itâs on the âoverviewâ tab, not midterm or final where I was looking. |
| 04:02.39 | terri | But yeah, I think Iâll probably have to screen-scrape the whole thing for now. |
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| 04:54.34 | aman_d1996 | can we apply for multiple organisations in gsoc? |
| 04:56.19 | olly_ | aman_d1996: yes, but quality beats quantity |
| 04:56.56 | olly_ | And you can only be accepted for one |
| 04:59.23 | aman_d1996 | olly: thanks..i m looking for it this time..but i have not yet understood the open source contribution culture |
| 05:00.14 | aman_d1996 | olly: should i start from choosing an organisation and start working for it...like fixing a few bugs or so |
| 05:00.43 | terri | yes, choosing an organization and fixing a few bugs is a perfect way to start. :) |
| 05:02.00 | aman_d1996 | terri: what if the organisation which i choose doesnt get selected this year...? then in that case what can be the scenario |
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| 05:02.43 | terri | aman_d1996: then you find another org to apply to, but youâll come to that new org *way* stronger because youâll have experience with a different open source project. :) |
| 05:03.22 | terri | to be honest, it looks *great* if youâve been able to fit in with more than one group, even if it means youâll have to set up a new development environment. |
| 05:03.45 | valorie | amen |
| 05:03.55 | valorie | it looks good to us in KDE |
| 05:04.11 | terri | looks good on your resume, too |
| 05:04.31 | valorie | and many students work with one org one year, and another the next |
| 05:06.03 | aman_d1996 | seems awesome...i have been working with a startup as an intern for some past few months...but open source community interests me alot... :) |
| 05:06.30 | valorie | I find it awesome indeed |
| 05:07.30 | olly_ | While different orgs have their differences, there's a lot in common and a lot of transferable skills |
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| 05:10.54 | terri | yeah, things like âcommunicating via mailing listsâ âreporting bugs wellâ âusing version controlâ âworking with a geographically distrubuted group of peopleâ âfollowing a coding standardâ âmaking a good patch/pull requestâ â even if thereâs slight differences in exactly how one group does these things, thereâll be a lot of overlap with what another group does. |
| 05:11.42 | aman_d1996 | well ok thanks |
| 05:12.38 | terri | drat, my attempt to make an archive of the gsoc site has left my poor copy of firefox spinning. I hope itâs still working and not traumatized by my data. ;) |
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| 10:31.49 | r0bby | Open Source Communities can be both good and bad. |
| 10:32.03 | r0bby | Some are better than others -- you'll find people who have gripes with some. |
| 10:32.39 | r0bby | terri: You should try with Chrome :P |
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| 13:15.39 | richu_ | Hi all I am student of CS 3rd year. I am new to Gsoc and want to participate in Gsoc 2017. I had gone through the website and read about few things related to it. How can I get started with preparation? Do I start contributing to previous year projects on GIthub? |
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| 13:29.09 | Crofton|work | richu_, having history with a project helps you understand what sort of proposals they would like to accept |
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| 19:32.39 | ovalseven8 | Is GSoC only for American students? |
| 19:32.58 | meflin | no there are studends from many countrys |
| 19:33.02 | meflin | !studentgide |
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| 19:33.37 | PulkoMandy | !studentguide | ovalseven8 |
| 19:33.37 | gsocbot | ovalseven8: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 19:34.06 | ovalseven8 | meflin: Do American students have 3 months free time in summer? |
| 19:34.19 | meflin | depends on the school |
| 19:35.21 | PulkoMandy | in most cases the GSoC dates won't perfectly align with the free time anyway |
| 19:35.47 | PulkoMandy | orgs expect students to be a little less available if they have exams or whatever - just be clear about it in your application and prepare your planning accordingly |
| 19:35.49 | ovalseven8 | Thing is, I have exams during the GSoC time |
| 19:37.19 | ovalseven8 | Which knowledge level should one have in programming? |
| 19:37.49 | PulkoMandy | !goodenough | ovalseven8 |
| 19:37.49 | gsocbot | ovalseven8: "goodenough" is Am I good enough to be a student for GSoC? http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
| 19:38.03 | PulkoMandy | please read the student guided :) |
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| 19:38.33 | ovalseven8 | PulkoMandy, I read it, but often there is a difference between the reality and how something "should be" ;) |
| 19:39.16 | PulkoMandy | well, the guide was written by the community, so more or less the same people you are talking to here. So that we don't have to answer the same questions over and over again |
| 19:40.29 | PulkoMandy | but, if you really want me to repeat: you can attempt GSoC with few knowledge of programming. The orgs are used to dealing with students, they know what to expect, and the mentors are here to help you. However, it seems important to me that you are able to communicate with the org and mentor and expose your problems |
| 19:41.05 | PulkoMandy | in the past we had some students with rather good programming skills, who stayed stuck for 2 or 3 weeks on a problem before asking for help, and that didn't work well |
| 19:41.29 | PulkoMandy | we had student with less skills but the motivation to learn and rework their code until it was accepted, and that works much better |
| 19:41.54 | valorie | amen to that, PulkoMandy |
| 19:42.21 | valorie | much of success is in attitude and work ethic + good communication |
| 19:42.25 | ovalseven8 | PulkoMandy, Thanks! One can participate two times in GSoC, right? |
| 19:42.41 | valorie | for KDE at least, we evaluate the student, not just the code |
| 19:42.48 | PulkoMandy | as a student, I don't know, the rules have changed since I was one |
| 19:42.49 | valorie | we want to grow the KDE community |
| 19:42.53 | PulkoMandy | as a mentor, as many times as you want :) |
| 19:43.02 | valorie | twice as a student now, yes |
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