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| 10:52.25 | snahilindoria | anybody their |
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| 10:59.40 | Freso | snahilindoria: No, none of the 255 other online people are here. |
| 11:00.31 | Joefish | it's IRC we're talking about here. of course we're all just idling :) |
| 11:00.34 | snahilindoria | hmm |
| 11:01.06 | snahilindoria | i want ot know what is the programming level required for gsoc |
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| 11:01.52 | Joefish | that has nothing to do with gsoc in general but the org you want to participate in |
| 11:02.10 | Freso | !studentguide | snahilindoria |
| 11:02.10 | gsocbot | snahilindoria: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 11:02.38 | gevaerts | doesn't really agree with Joefish |
| 11:02.40 | snahilindoria | i have gone through the guideline |
| 11:02.44 | Joefish | huh nice |
| 11:03.07 | snahilindoria | but didn't get much |
| 11:03.17 | snahilindoria | about he level of programming required |
| 11:03.31 | gevaerts | It's not an easy question to answer |
| 11:04.12 | gevaerts | For one, I wouldn't even know how to easily classify those levels in a universally understood way |
| 11:04.28 | gevaerts | And yes, it does differ a bit between organisations |
| 11:07.54 | gevaerts | Joefish: the thing is that if you're trying to find out if you're good enough for gsoc, you probably aren't looking at individual organisations yet |
| 11:08.47 | Joefish | I wouldn't know how to classify 'programming level' either but there are certain requirements orgs set like experience in C++, Python, .. or specialized knowledge like drivers, kernel, ... The best way to check if you're up to the task is trying to fix simple bugs on their tracker and work with the code |
| 11:09.05 | gevaerts | And I think requiring people to do that at that stage isn't a good idea, because the entire concepts of gsoc and free software are already big enough for people new to them without that level of detail |
| 11:09.06 | Freso | snahilindoria: Try and find an org. and start *now* with getting involved with that org. This doesn't have to be by coding. |
| 11:09.35 | Freso | Maybe there are documentation tasks you can do, maybe it's just using the software and finding and reportings bugs for a bit, being active on their IRC/mailing lists/etc. |
| 11:10.01 | snahilindoria | sure |
| 11:10.08 | snahilindoria | i will start finding bugs |
| 11:11.01 | Freso | E.g., my org. is closely tied to data entry, but we get a lot of prospective GSoC students who come and just want to do code things without an understanding of how the data entry flow works. |
| 11:11.04 | Joefish | gevaerts: not sure what you mean. snahilindoria asked what level of programming is needed to participate in gsoc and I recommended to look at orgs as gsoc in itself has nothing to do with the needed skill level. From what I take you agree on that |
| 11:11.39 | snahilindoria | yes i do |
| 11:12.16 | snahilindoria | my programming levels depends type of org i am dealing with |
| 11:12.25 | Freso | So someone with less programming experience but is intimately familiar with what we do and how we do it, is likely off to a better start than a programming whiz that doesn't know the different between a conductor and a concert master. |
| 11:12.53 | Freso | (Well, okay, that last example was maybe a bit contrived, "release" and "release group" is probably better. :)) |
| 11:13.38 | gevaerts | Joefish: (sorry, maybe I have my pedant hat on) yes, I think I agree with that, but "nothing to do with gsoc in general" did sound to me as if you were saying it's not something that can be discussed here, and I don't agree with *that* |
| 11:14.50 | Joefish | gevaerts: oh I certainly didn't mean that it shouldn't be discussed on this channel. On the contrary |
| 11:15.24 | Joefish | sorry if it came across wrong |
| 11:15.50 | gevaerts | In that case I suggest we now drop the issue and stop making the chat hard to read for everyone else :) |
| 11:16.19 | Joefish | agreed :) |
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| 14:56.16 | gsocbot | Freso: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
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