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| 05:16.35 | ram_ | Hi, I've been participating in Google's Fuchsia OS and one of the project leads seemed to express that he would be in favour of Fuchsia being in GSOC this year. Is it still possible? Cheers. |
| 05:17.50 | valorie | ram_: the deadline for org applications was a couple of weeks ago |
| 05:18.18 | valorie | however, Fuschia can still join with a bigger "umbrella" org |
| 05:18.33 | ram_ | I'm aware, but since the team is /Google/ I'd assume Google themselves are an org no? |
| 05:19.10 | valorie | no, they never have been |
| 05:19.24 | valorie | !orgs |
| 05:19.25 | gsocbot | valorie: "orgs" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2015 |
| 05:19.37 | valorie | last year's list, ram_ |
| 05:20.50 | ram_ | Well I see Google Kubernetes as an org so I guess I have my answer. Thanks. https://www.google-melange.com/archive/gsoc/2015/orgs/kubernetes |
| 05:21.53 | valorie | interesting |
| 05:23.17 | valorie | I've been involved for years as a KDE org admin, but never noticed that |
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| 05:23.44 | valorie | I think they were new last year, but then again.... dunno |
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| 05:25.49 | ram_ | valorie: Me neither, and trust me I combed 2016's list, but I still wasn't quite ready. It's a pity I only just got involved with the Fuchsia guys last week. I'm evaluating GNU Hurd but... that project wouldn't be near as interesting I suppose. Lots of OS work nonetheless. |
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| 05:27.33 | valorie | there is Haiku OS |
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| 05:30.28 | ram_ | Thanks, I see it also stems from BeOS days. Brian Swetland was also working on BeOS according to something I read. He's on with Fuchsia now. |
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| 07:14.21 | PulkoMandy | ram_: if you want to work on something BeOS-ish, the Haiku project is applying this year |
| 07:15.34 | PulkoMandy | !orgs |
| 07:15.34 | gsocbot | PulkoMandy: "orgs" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2015 |
| 07:15.44 | PulkoMandy | gsocbot: !forget orgs |
| 07:15.58 | PulkoMandy | mh, don't remember how this works but we should update to https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2016/organizations/ |
| 07:17.33 | PulkoMandy | ok, found it :) |
| 07:17.36 | PulkoMandy | !orgs |
| 07:17.36 | gsocbot | PulkoMandy: "orgs" is https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2016/organizations/ |
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| 11:11.47 | YashDSaraf_ | !logs |
| 11:11.47 | gsocbot | YashDSaraf_: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 11:32.02 | adarsh | any suggestions on organizations or ideas using c++ or java? Thanks! |
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| 11:34.19 | YashDSaraf_ | adarsh: The orgs list will be out tomorrow, then you can see for yourself, there will be an option to filter organisations based on one's programming interests (in your case Java or C++) |
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| 11:54.38 | adarsh | Hey! This is adarsh |
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| 11:58.20 | Freso | adarsh: Hello |
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| 12:07.55 | adarsh_ | Freso: Hi! I was interested in Gsoc this summer. So was just looking out for ideas / organisations. Do you know how to filter organisations in the archived list of orgs. that have participated earlier in gsoc, using a particular language for their projects? |
| 12:08.18 | Freso | I don't think that's possible. |
| 12:08.34 | Freso | However, at this time, you may as well just wait the ~24 hours for the 2017 list to get announced. |
| 12:08.54 | Freso | And you'll be able to sort on languages there. |
| 12:09.38 | adarsh_ | okay. Thanks! |
| 12:10.23 | adarsh_ | Freso: Will you be participating this gsoc? |
| 12:10.34 | Freso | It doesn't look like it. |
| 12:10.58 | adarsh_ | Have you participated earlier? |
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| 12:24.03 | Freso | If you stuck around, you might get an answer! |
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| 14:23.22 | BigOChief | Hey |
| 14:23.39 | MaskyS | Hello |
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| 14:26.11 | BigOChief | What organisations are you going to apply to |
| 14:26.13 | BigOChief | ? |
| 14:26.44 | MaskyS | BigOChief: Sorry, I'm not a gsoc student :) Just checking things out |
| 14:27.07 | BigOChief | OhKay |
| 14:27.26 | MaskyS | BigOChief: You're a student? |
| 14:27.28 | BigOChief | Mentor? |
| 14:28.06 | MaskyS | BigOChief: I guess you could say that. I'm not going to be a mentor because I'll be busy but I'll be helping the students out |
| 14:28.23 | BigOChief | Oh that's great |
| 14:29.04 | BigOChief | What organisation have you mentored before? |
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| 14:29.28 | MaskyS | BigOChief: I started out this year, I'm from Drupal. |
| 14:32.48 | BigOChief | What makes a applicant stand out apart from his knowledge ? |
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| 14:38.06 | MaskyS | BigOChief: His past work, and his contributions before gsoc application period starts |
| 14:38.37 | MaskyS | BigOChief: Showing passion and a well crafted application is also a plus |
| 14:41.35 | BigOChief | What if he/she hasn't made any sort of significant contributions to the Opensource community? |
| 14:42.30 | BigOChief | Would that drastically reduce his/her chances of getting selected? |
| 14:44.29 | teepee | no, it should not, after all that's one of the ideas of GSoC, getting people into contact with open source |
| 14:48.51 | BigOChief | But they do prefer people with experience |
| 14:49.31 | teepee | I can't speak for others, on my prio list that's not very high up |
| 14:50.42 | BigOChief | Are you mentor too? |
| 14:50.43 | teepee | having a motivated student applying for an easy rated task with a good proposal is worth more than other options |
| 14:51.07 | teepee | I might be, we'll see on monday, I was the last 3 years |
| 14:51.26 | BigOChief | Which organisation? |
| 14:51.48 | teepee | does it matter? ;) |
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| 14:55.12 | BigOChief | It sort of does |
| 14:55.41 | teepee | ah, now I'm curious, why? |
| 14:55.48 | BigOChief | I can pick your pick on some organisation specific questions |
| 14:57.20 | teepee | I guess org specific stuff will get interesting once the org selection is announced |
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| 14:57.57 | teepee | it would better belong to an org specific channel though |
| 14:58.35 | teepee | there's plenty of time to discuss stuff until the student application is due |
| 14:58.59 | teepee | checks timeline |
| 14:59.47 | teepee | yep, 3 weeks, plenty of time :) |
| 14:59.56 | BigOChief | Yeah that's true |
| 15:00.32 | BigOChief | But there's no harm in getting a head start :) |
| 15:01.00 | teepee | yes, waiting till the last moment is one of the worst options when trying to get into gsoc |
| 15:01.27 | teepee | it's always a bit sad if students (or even some orgs) fail to participate due to the deadlines |
| 15:03.01 | teepee | still, the 100% strict deadlines are a good thing overall, and probably the only option considering the quite big scope of gsoc |
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| 15:24.06 | MaskyS | BigOChief: I think you misunderstood. What I mean is that you stand a higher chance if you started learning about the community and contributing right now. If you had contributions before this period it wouldn't really affect your chances of being accepted that much. Maybe by somewhere around 7% ... |
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| 15:31.39 | Rob | Hi guys anyone online? |
| 15:32.03 | BigOChief | MaskyS: The contributions part was really bothering . Thanks for clearing that out! |
| 15:32.38 | MaskyS | BigOChief: np. So what organization are you planning to apply for? |
| 15:32.42 | MaskyS | Rob: hello |
| 15:33.29 | Rob | MaskyS: Hey MaskyS! |
| 15:33.47 | Rob | How do I alert you to messages like you had done to me? Haha |
| 15:34.04 | BigOChief | teepee: 100% strict deadlines is definitely a good thing. Makes sure student stick to their timeline with proper consistency. |
| 15:34.15 | MaskyS | you adress me by putting my username and a colon after, like this : Rob: |
| 15:34.23 | MaskyS | Rob: ^ |
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| 15:34.31 | Rob | MaskyS: Did this work? |
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| 15:34.42 | MaskyS | yes, it does. |
| 15:35.02 | Rob | MaskyS: That's great! |
| 15:35.08 | Rob | do you have any experience with GSoC? |
| 15:35.10 | BigOChief | MaskyS:Have shortlisted it to around 10 options that have really peaked my interests |
| 15:35.11 | cannon2 | greetings! |
| 15:35.17 | MaskyS | any mention of my username at all alerts me. |
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| 15:35.26 | Rob | Oh wow, interesting haha. |
| 15:35.39 | MaskyS | BigOChief: that's nice. what are they? |
| 15:35.40 | teepee | BigOChief: indeed. with things like internet going down for an hour or something like that it's also useful to be at least a tiny bit early |
| 15:35.59 | Rob | MaskyS: are you a first year CS student? |
| 15:36.16 | BigOChief | MaskyS: Have started reading up more on those projects. Waiting for Monday for the accepted organizations to short list it more |
| 15:36.22 | Rob | I wanted to know if GSoC would be OK for first years, as I know very little about Open source dev |
| 15:37.09 | BigOChief | MaskyS: Hope new and more interesting organisations have applied |
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| 15:39.17 | MaskyS_ | Whoopsie, my connection went down haha. What did I miss? |
| 15:39.38 | nikivi | there is already a small list of organisations available? |
| 15:39.49 | Rob | MaskyS_: I wanted to know if GSoC would be OK for first years, as I know very little about Open source dev |
| 15:40.19 | BigOChief | MaskyS: Nothing much really |
| 15:40.42 | MaskyS_ | nikivi: No, but you can track down previous organizations that have participated for a few years in gsoc and gci. You can bet that they will be there this year as well |
| 15:41.15 | MaskyS_ | Rob: Totally. If you put in enough effort you can do it. The key is to start now. |
| 15:41.19 | nikivi | one thing that I always found diffiicult |
| 15:41.28 | nikivi | is just how hard it really is to contribute to a big project |
| 15:41.53 | nikivi | like you have to understand the project and all its inner details to actually make a meaningful contribution |
| 15:41.55 | Rob | MaskyS_: how would you recommend I start? I'm learning JS right now |
| 15:41.57 | teepee | Rob: if you can make sure you have both enough time and motivation, you should be good to go |
| 15:42.01 | MaskyS_ | nikivi: Have you checked out previous projects/ project ideas to see what it's like? |
| 15:42.07 | nikivi | and with that you not only have to understand the language, but the project and the domain itself |
| 15:42.13 | nikivi | MaskyS_ I have |
| 15:42.18 | teepee | Rob: read the student guide :) |
| 15:42.19 | Rob | teepee: thanks! but exactly how do you start, I'm really interested in GSoC but it's very vague |
| 15:42.26 | teepee | !studentguide | Rob |
| 15:42.26 | gsocbot | Rob: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 15:42.47 | Rob | Thanks very much, I'll be back soon haha |
| 15:43.32 | MaskyS_ | nikivi: It really depends on what organization you choose. But yes, it will not come easy to understand the whole thing. |
| 15:43.56 | cannon2 | every project involves just one student and mentor(s) from an organization, right? No partnering with other selected students under the same organization? |
| 15:44.05 | MaskyS_ | nikivi: Put in enough effort and tackle things little by little, you should be good. |
| 15:44.12 | MaskyS_ | cannon2: yes. |
| 15:45.03 | MaskyS_ | cannon2: though, in an open source community, people can help each other out. That doesn't mean that somebody else will do all your work though. |
| 15:46.56 | cannon2 | So that doesn't mean that my code has to be public all through the while, right? |
| 15:47.11 | cannon2 | I mean throughout the project duration |
| 15:50.38 | MaskyS_ | cannon2: No. But it is good practise to let others see it and provide feedback for your code, so that you can improve it. One thing to keep in mind is that no two students will work on the same project. |
| 15:52.38 | cannon2 | Thank you @MaskyS_ . It's great to be here. |
| 15:52.42 | cannon2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:04.27 | Rob | How do people go about creating a project idea? |
| 16:04.40 | Rob | I've noticed that most of the projects are super specific |
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| 16:05.34 | Rob | MaskyS: Hey again! I've read the FLOSS guide but could you help clear up the 'project plan' section? |
| 16:05.51 | MaskyS | Rob: link please? |
| 16:06.05 | Rob | MaskyS: http://write.flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/finding-the-right-project/ |
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| 16:06.46 | Rob | MaskyS: It says you can either create a project idea, or propose a plan for an existing project? |
| 16:06.54 | Rob | Is that right or am i misinterpreting the document |
| 16:07.26 | |Kev| | You *can* create your own ideas, but you want to be very much talking to the org before you try that (indeed, you should be talking to orgs regardless of the project you want). |
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| 16:08.02 | Rob | |Kev|: Ah I see, so I could just learn about different projects and then ask to work on them? |
| 16:08.05 | MaskyS | Rob: yes, as Kev pointed out, it's very much recommended that you speak with the org admin before proposing your own idea |
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| 16:08.34 | Rob | I'm not looking to create my own project, I was just a little confused as to whether or not you HAD to create a project |
| 16:08.42 | Rob | Thanks for clearing that up though :P |
| 16:08.46 | meflin_ | talk to the org ... not necessarily the org admin |
| 16:08.55 | |Kev| | Certainly not, inventing a project idea and getting accepted is relatively rare. |
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| 16:09.07 | MaskyS | Rob: AFAIS The project plan section tells to research about the existing project idea and completely concretising what you are going to do. |
| 16:09.37 | Rob | MaskyS: Yeah that makes a lot more sense, the plan is just detailing how you would add to an existing project |
| 16:10.09 | Rob | I've seen a lot of projects that only have one student listed under them, do they only list the student that proposed the project or everyone working on them? |
| 16:10.13 | Rob | For example https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2016/projects/4999444474888192/ |
| 16:10.34 | MaskyS | Rob: Not only adding to it, but fully detailing it. |
| 16:11.04 | meflin | accepted projects are by definition one student |
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| 16:11.37 | MaskyS | Rob: It only lists accept projects apparently, and only one student works on one project. |
| 16:11.43 | MaskyS | accepted* |
| 16:13.13 | MaskyS | Rob: Multiple students can submit a proposal for a project idea, but only one will be selected to work on that specific project. |
| 16:14.01 | Rob | MaskyS: A lot of these look incredibly complex, is GSoC meant for only experienced programmers? Like some are so scientific that I wouldn't know where to even begin Googling |
| 16:14.20 | |Kev| | Some are complex, some are relatively simple. |
| 16:14.28 | MaskyS | Rob, Nope. I think you're looking at the wrong orgs |
| 16:14.38 | |Kev| | Certainly it's expected that anyone participating in GSoC can write code, but beyond that... |
| 16:14.42 | MaskyS | Rob: Therre are simple projects out there as well |
| 16:15.01 | |Kev| | Students have a mentor to help them through stuff, and you can get through a lot in a few months of full-time work |
| 16:15.41 | MaskyS | yes, mentors play a huge role |
| 16:16.08 | Rob | Could you give me an example of a project you'd deem relatively simple ? These are all the projects - https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2016/projects/ |
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| 16:17.21 | MaskyS | Rob: Have a look at these, for example. They are relatively simple. https://groups.drupal.org/node/515848#project1 |
| 16:17.24 | gevaerts | spots the word "relatively" there |
| 16:17.26 | gevaerts | Half of them! |
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| 16:17.50 | BigOChief | Yeah |
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| 16:18.01 | Freso | BigOChief: "But there's no harm in getting a head start" - the students getting a head start approached organisations months ago. The day before org.s get published is hardly a "head start". |
| 16:18.02 | BigOChief | But not really for someone with no language experience |
| 16:18.23 | Freso | (Not one of any significance at least...) |
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| 16:18.52 | BigOChief | Yeah I know |
| 16:19.21 | MaskyS | No language experience at all will make things very difficult, yes. |
| 16:19.21 | |Kev| | Freso: Not in my experience. |
| 16:19.47 | Rob | What would you define as language experience MaskyS? |
| 16:19.49 | |Kev| | BigOChief: It's a summer of code - I'm afraid that if you can't code, it's going to be a bit of a struggle. |
| 16:20.08 | MaskyS | Freso: I have to agree with Kev on this one, it is not too late to start. |
| 16:20.09 | BigOChief | I Can code |
| 16:20.14 | MaskyS | and have a head start. |
| 16:20.23 | Freso | I never said it was too late to start. :) |
| 16:20.30 | BigOChief | But php isn't my language |
| 16:20.42 | Freso | It is never too late to start getting involved with FLOSS. |
| 16:20.53 | MaskyS | Rob: I think I'm inexperienced for this one. |
| 16:21.27 | Freso | But <24 hours before org.s are revealed is hardly a head start, compared to students who have approached org.s 3+ months ago and have already embedded themselves into the community. |
| 16:21.30 | MaskyS | BigOChief: simple, find orgs that favour your language :) |
| 16:21.42 | BigOChief | I know it would take about a week to get comfortable with the language but its too late for that now so i's rather stick with languages Im comfortable with |
| 16:22.10 | teepee | Freso: telling students to start 3 month before the project actually opens seem not very useful advice to me |
| 16:22.19 | Freso | teepee: I didn't? |
| 16:22.22 | |Kev| | Freso: That's really quite rare in my experience which org are you mentoring with to see that a lot? |
| 16:22.28 | |Kev| | +punctuation |
| 16:22.53 | Freso | teepee: I'm solely commenting on the concept of a "head start" immediately prior to the org. reveal. |
| 16:23.12 | teepee | Freso: yes, and that does not make much sense to me |
| 16:23.14 | MaskyS | Freso: I know some Indian students who do it, but it really is overkill. |
| 16:23.20 | teepee | getting involved in open souce, yes |
| 16:23.33 | teepee | as head start for gsoc, no |
| 16:23.42 | BigOChief | teepee: Exactly |
| 16:23.50 | Rob | MaskyS: OK guys thanks for all the help. I'm going to give GSoC a think because its really out of my experience level haha |
| 16:23.50 | MaskyS | teepee: +1 |
| 16:24.05 | MaskyS | Rob: pm? |
| 16:24.25 | Rob | MaskyS: how do you pm? |
| 16:24.32 | Rob | @MaskyS is this it haha |
| 16:24.35 | Freso | |Kev|: MetaBrainz. We have at least 3 GSoC applicants who have come in over the last couple of months and right from the beginning said they were interested in applying for GSoC. One of them is almost singlehandedly responsible for our Picard 1.4 release (after more than 2 years of us saying "we should really make a new release"). |
| 16:24.46 | MaskyS | Rob: haha no. I'll shw you |
| 16:24.52 | meflin | Rob: gsoc or not or even later years its never to soon to get involved in opensource |
| 16:25.29 | |Kev| | Freso: Impressive. I don't think that's *ever* happened to us 3 months in advance. |
| 16:25.35 | MaskyS | meflin: True. open source is an experience that will stay with you for life. |
| 16:25.41 | Rob | @meflin: It's not that I don't want to be involved, I can barely build a CRUD app lol |
| 16:26.05 | meflin | we also need doc's testers and all kins of things |
| 16:26.05 | Freso | Rob: Even if you think GSoC is too much this year, you can get involved with an org. you like and improve your skillset and apply next year! |
| 16:26.14 | BigOChief | Freso: That's really great.But the point here really is for GSoC 3 months prior to the project seems a bit far fetched |
| 16:26.23 | |Kev| | Even ignoring GSoC, having some OSS experience can only be good for your career. |
| 16:26.23 | Freso | !amigoodenough | Rob |
| 16:26.23 | gsocbot | Rob: "amigoodenough" is http://write.flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/am-i-good-enough/ |
| 16:26.31 | |Kev| | But why not give it a go anyway? |
| 16:26.38 | MaskyS | Fresco: Again, that is hardcore :P |
| 16:26.51 | |Kev| | Approach an org, do some of their teaser tasks, get to learn stuff, and try applying |
| 16:27.00 | Freso | BigOChief: How is it "far fetched" if it's the reality I'm/we're experiencing? |
| 16:27.00 | meflin | gsoc is limited to code but being a contributor to open source is not |
| 16:27.53 | MaskyS | Rob: it's not about your present skills and knowledge; it's about how much you can learn and figure out things in the coming months. That, and the ability to work as a team with your mentor |
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| 16:28.52 | Rob | MaskyS: Writing a good proposal to work on a project idea involves understanding how you would approach the task and being able to detail it well enough |
| 16:29.22 | MaskyS | Rob: Yes. |
| 16:29.30 | BigOChief | Freso: I mean working for an organisation because you are really passionate about the idea and you have something to contribute and not specifically targeting it to get selected for gsoc |
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| 16:30.58 | opticod_ | Hi, Anyone knows the time of the org announcement ? |
| 16:31.16 | Freso | BigOChief: As I said, we have at least two people active in the community now who came in in the last few months and from the beginning said they were aspiring to apply for GSoC. :) |
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| 16:31.29 | Freso | *three |
| 16:32.01 | Freso | keeps reminding himself that one of them hasn't been around for years already! |
| 16:32.20 | Freso | is really excited about this year's GSoC!âhopes his org. will actually make it in again! |
| 16:32.37 | teepee | yeah, we got that by now... |
| 16:33.39 | Slurpee | That anticipation... |
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| 16:47.02 | MaskyS | Freso: Good luck! |
| 16:47.36 | Freso | Thanks MaskyS! You too! :) |
| 16:48.32 | MaskyS | Freso: thanks. I'm hoping for the best as well :D |
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| 17:11.42 | marncz | Hi all, is it up to organizations what proposals to choose? Or does Google also have control over it? |
| 17:12.42 | Freso | marncz: Only org.s. |
| 17:12.56 | Freso | Google chooses the org.s, org.s choose students/proposals. |
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| 17:13.55 | marncz | Freso: thanks! |
| 17:14.16 | gevaerts | Except for basic validation of student eligibility. That's Google again |
| 17:14.42 | Freso | Right, sure, but that's not so much "choosing" as "verifying" or "validating". :) |
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| 17:16.13 | gevaerts | Yes, but I don't think there's *anything* about gsoc that hasn't ever been misunderstood by a prospective student :) |
| 17:17.37 | Freso | Indeed... |
| 17:18.43 | marncz | gevaerts: and tomorrow Google will also announce how many projects/mentors are assigned per org? Can't remember it from last year |
| 17:18.43 | marncz | Freso: ^ |
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| 17:18.55 | Freso | marncz: No. |
| 17:19.25 | meflin | first orgs are selected ... slots come later |
| 17:19.51 | Freso | Google announce org.s, student apply to org.s, org.s then request slots from Google. |
| 17:20.07 | Freso | *students |
| 17:20.50 | marncz | meflin: thanks |
| 17:21.18 | marncz | So it's sort of based on interest? |
| 17:21.32 | marncz | How much interest per org? |
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| 17:21.50 | meflin | "it" ? |
| 17:21.53 | Freso | It's based on a number of factors. |
| 17:21.57 | Freso | meflin: Slot allocation. |
| 17:22.56 | meflin | mentor capacity, experience , interest, the list go on and on |
| 17:23.19 | Freso | But I think the primary factor is org.s (perceived) ability to handle students. E.g., org.s new to GSoC will not get more than 1 or 2 slots. |
| 17:26.47 | marncz | Freso: I see, thanks |
| 17:26.50 | marncz | meflin: thanks |
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| 17:56.35 | sohail | Hello every one |
| 17:58.37 | Freso | Hi sohail |
| 17:59.05 | sohail | Hi freso |
| 17:59.11 | sohail | how r u |
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| 18:00.01 | sohail | hi Cervator |
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| 18:00.45 | Freso | sohail: Inhaling my flat mate's nail polish. You? |
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| 18:00.55 | Freso | (Also, if you have a question, just ask it.) |
| 18:02.03 | sohail | freso me doing nothing special, preparing lecture. |
| 18:02.12 | sohail | freso you from |
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| 18:06.32 | mash_ | Does one have to commit changes under their full name or can they simply run everything under their nick and just do the "official stuff" under their real name? |
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| 18:08.07 | Freso | mash_: Depends on the org. |
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| 18:23.48 | Kksingh | Hi i am new to irc |
| 18:24.27 | Kksingh | Can anyone tell me about a repository |
| 18:26.10 | meflin | there are many kinds ... |
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| 18:27.13 | Kksingh | A proper definition of repository |
| 18:28.43 | meflin | https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=define+repository&* |
| 18:28.50 | meflin | did you have a gsoc question? |
| 18:30.22 | Kksingh | Ya |
| 18:31.00 | Kksingh | I dont know how to start open source programming |
| 18:31.14 | meflin | !studentguide |
| 18:31.14 | gsocbot | meflin: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 18:31.17 | Kksingh | As i am new to programming |
| 18:31.28 | meflin | find an org you find interesting and get involved |
| 18:31.36 | Kksingh | And only know c lang |
| 18:31.54 | Kksingh | Can u suggest me some |
| 18:32.30 | Kksingh | I hv found tux4kids |
| 18:32.44 | meflin | last years list is here -> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2016/organizations/ |
| 18:32.54 | Kksingh | Now what should i do further |
| 18:33.27 | meflin | read there information ... communicate, fix bugs, docs, contribute |
| 18:33.52 | Kksingh | Thank u |
| 18:34.20 | Kksingh | On their site ?? |
| 18:34.24 | meflin | yes |
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| 18:35.09 | Kksingh | How to communicate with tux4kids |
| 18:35.18 | meflin | its on there site |
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| 18:35.45 | meflin | each org has there own methods |
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| 18:42.42 | Sparkdocommit | Hello |
| 18:44.23 | marncz | Sparkdocommit: hi |
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| 19:50.49 | carbo | Hello everyone. Today is 27th Feb |
| 19:51.00 | carbo | Is the organization list out yet? |
| 19:51.07 | meflin | no |
| 19:51.29 | meflin | also time is local its the 26th here |
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| 20:07.17 | yep | hey |
| 20:07.46 | meflin | did you have a question? |
| 20:08.49 | yep | yes |
| 20:09.04 | yep | i want to know if we can always register |
| 20:09.24 | meflin | no there are deadlines |
| 20:10.39 | yep | can't report? |
| 20:10.58 | meflin | https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline?hl=en |
| 20:11.10 | meflin | report what? |
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| 20:16.09 | yep | report the date |
| 20:16.45 | meflin | I do not understand your meaning |
| 20:17.15 | yep | i want to register but it fails |
| 20:17.28 | meflin | as a student? |
| 20:17.46 | yep | yes |
| 20:18.00 | meflin | https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline?hl=en |
| 20:18.12 | meflin | student applications are not open yet |
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| 20:19.42 | yep | @meflin ok thanks should be by 23 march? |
| 20:20.04 | meflin | did you read the link? |
| 20:22.28 | yep | yeah i read about it |
| 20:22.37 | yep | and i saw 23 march |
| 20:22.58 | meflin | no you did not there is no such date on the link I gave you |
| 20:27.11 | yep | i'm then lost |
| 20:27.24 | meflin | https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline?hl=en |
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| 20:30.28 | yep | ok i saw may 30 right? |
| 20:30.47 | meflin | no |
| 20:30.56 | Freso | By then you should have already applied. |
| 20:31.02 | meflin | March 20 16:00 UTCStudent application period opens |
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| 20:35.52 | yep | i'm lost |
| 20:35.56 | yep | please guide me |
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| 20:50.40 | Freso | yep_: You need to be more specific. |
| 20:51.35 | yep_ | ok i don't want to miss the registration |
| 20:51.55 | yep_ | then i want to know the deadline for student submission |
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| 21:02.58 | mash_ | yep_, as outlined on the timeline the student application period opens on March 20 16:00 UTC and the deadline is on April 3 16:00 UTC. |
| 21:04.24 | yep_ | mash_ thanks !-) |
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| 21:29.03 | kaustu1995 | Hello everyone. My name is Kaustubh. I am from India. Can you guys help me with knowing more about GSOC? |
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| 21:45.18 | intrigus | I love people expecting replies within minutes ... |
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| 22:02.10 | marncz | kaustu1995: hi, if you are still here, I am a student but can answer some questions |
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| 22:08.06 | marncz | intrigus: oh ok |
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| 23:28.12 | oliveratutexas | hello! |
| 23:29.25 | marncz | oliveratutexas: hello there! |
| 23:29.41 | oliveratutexas | are you a student or are you an org? |
| 23:30.00 | marncz | oliveratutexas: I'm a student |
| 23:31.19 | oliveratutexas | I am too. I was a bit confused about the schedule. It said apps don't open up until march 20th, but it seemed to imply that the orgs were already selected. I was looking for a list, but I couldn't find one. Does one exist yet? |
| 23:31.26 | marncz | Still knowing a thing or two so may answer some of your questions :) |
| 23:31.44 | Cerv_afk | no org list yet, but very close |
| 23:32.00 | marncz | oliveratutexas: the list of orgs will be published in roughly 17 hours from now |
| 23:32.02 | Cervator | announcement is "tomorrow" - depending on where you are in the world |
| 23:32.55 | oliveratutexas | Oh okay! Yeah, I saw this last year, but I waited too long to apply for it. I'll try to get into an org once the list is revealed. |
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| 23:35.39 | marncz | oliveratutexas: same for me, so this year I am starting to get involved early on :) |
| 23:39.47 | valorie | "early on" was months ago |
| 23:40.00 | valorie | getting involved now, is average |
| 23:40.24 | valorie | students contacting orgs once applications open up -- are late |
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| 23:40.59 | marncz | Did not specify what "early on" meant |
| 23:43.05 | valorie | :-) |
| 23:43.40 | valorie | just trying to clarify for students who think that asking here is "getting involved" |
| 23:44.00 | Cervator | you get used to it over time, may take a year or two to get truly ready. Same for orgs, we got in on our 4th try :-) |
| 23:44.00 | valorie | getting involved is fixing bugs and otherwise helping out *in orgs* |
| 23:44.19 | valorie | amen, Cervator |
| 23:46.23 | oliveratutexas | Oh, how did people get involved "early on" if they didn't have the list of orgs? |
| 23:48.44 | valorie | there is the list from last year |
| 23:49.01 | valorie | and honestly, any free software experience is portable |
| 23:49.24 | valorie | if you contribute to FOSS org A and they don't apply |
| 23:49.40 | valorie | your experience will be good for org B that is accepted into GSoC |
| 23:50.09 | valorie | this program is designed to improve all of FOSS |
| 23:50.50 | oliveratutexas | Okay. Uh, should I just go to one of the orgs on the list and start fixing bugs or something? |
| 23:50.53 | valorie | in KDE, we're almost as happy when we see former students involved with other FOSS orgs later |
| 23:51.02 | valorie | as we are if they stay active with us |
| 23:51.08 | valorie | oliveratutexas: yes |
| 23:55.12 | marncz | oliveratutexas: if you look at GitHub issues, there are some labeled "easy", "start issues", "gsoc" |
| 23:55.35 | marncz | it's good to start looking at those |