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00:11.08oliveratutexasOh okay. So are most of the people accepted vets who've been doing it for a while?
00:11.55teepeeno, not at all
00:14.43teepeeand the number may shift to new students even more with the new rules
00:15.04oliveratutexasWhich parts of the rules are you referring to?
00:15.06teepeeif I read the rules correctly it's now maximum 2 participations
00:15.17teepeeI think last year it was 3
00:15.22oliveratutexasoh ok
00:16.00teepeeof cause as mentioned before you can have plenty of experience outside of gsoc which is certainly an advantage
00:18.14teepeebut there's enough time to get prepared even without prior knowledge (well, except some coding)
00:19.12Cervatoryep. Good students can be way more about attitude and enthusiasm than past experience. The goal after all is to help students learn, not get "free labor" over the summer :-)
00:19.47teepeeexactly
00:29.52valorieamen to that
00:30.23valoriebeing a beginner can be awesome!
00:31.21valoriebut some months of experience can at least give a newbie some knowledge of how to find sources, how to browse the code, deal with bug trackers, email lists, IRC channels, and a multitide of other things
00:33.13Cervatorespecially IRC. IRC can be weird :D
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02:36.56huunhi when will be the organizations announced
02:37.53Cervator14ish hours or so
02:38.13huunthanks
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05:16.15vinay_Hey
05:16.47vinay_When will the selected organisation's name be released on gsoc website?
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05:17.44brainbreaker[m]In 3 hrs or so ;)
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06:18.07nick123hi
06:18.13nick123everybody
06:18.40nick123i heard about gsoc few days back and I want to do gsoc this year and i am new to open source
06:19.35nick123but i dont know how to begin?
06:20.05YashdSaraf!logs
06:20.06gsocbotYashdSaraf: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
06:20.08PulkoMandydid you read the student guide already?
06:20.13PulkoMandy!studentguide | nick123
06:20.13gsocbotnick123: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/
06:21.35nick123i dont know about the syudent uide, i will read it now, ok and when will the organisations be announced?
06:21.41valorienick123: get involved with a FOSS org as soon as possible, fixing bugs and generally figuring out how things work
06:21.51valoriethe sooner, the better
06:21.52ram_nick123: Today, the 27t
06:21.59nick123at what time?
06:22.27nick123is foss an organisation? or it is a collective term for all foss orgs?
06:24.04nick123and when i apply to the orgs, what do i need to do /? will i have to propose my own project or will they have their own project on which i can work in summers?
06:24.25ram_FOSS is not an organisation.
06:24.38nick123okay
06:24.46PulkoMandy"free/open source software"
06:24.48ram_Read the site. It'll explain everything about the process
06:24.57nick123yes i am reading it
06:25.02ram_Orgs list is to be annoounced at 16:00 UTC
06:25.11ram_https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
06:26.37nick123oh,! i am sorry, i had seen the same thing but i mistook the time in my local timezone as am instead of pm:( , thanks
06:27.13nick123does anyone have any guess on which orgs may be participating?
06:27.38ram_See the previous year's list, it's a good indication.
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06:28.03ram_https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2016/organizations/
06:29.13nick123yes i have looked at all the previous lista but what i am not able to understand is that when today the orgs are announced then will their respective projects will also be announced or will they be announced later?
06:29.41ram_The organisations projects list will be also listed.
06:29.50valorietheir ideas pages are already online
06:29.58valoriethat was part of the org application
06:30.08ram_However, usually organisations that are applying already publish lists of potential projects.
06:30.25valoriethey may add some ideas as time goes on, but the major part of it is already published
06:30.27ram_You have to seek them out.
06:30.47ram_valorie: You can also propose your own project, correct?
06:31.22nick123okay, so i need to look at the org website to see their potential projects?
06:31.39mcintireevanI suppose it's recommended to get in contact with mentors for projects you're interested in early on, even before the student application period?
06:31.51ram_mcintireevan: correct
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06:32.14mcintireevanAwesome
06:32.19ram_and try to get patches in their projects. Look for starter/easy tasks in their issue/bug tackers
06:32.21valorieyou can propose such a project, but unless it is developed within the org or one of its teams
06:32.28valorieyou are unlikely to find a mentor
06:32.43ram_Thanks for the confirmation.
06:33.04valoriein KDE at least, we encourage students to develop their own ideas, but always in conjunction with their team
06:33.24nick123why are we unlikely to find a mentor?
06:33.34valorieand we will not consider applications from students who have not already got some commits
06:33.51ram_Because the mentor may not want to do your proposal?
06:34.02valorienick123: because the mentor needs to know the subject of your project in some depth
06:34.05valorieto be able to help
06:34.17ram_Their may be no mentor with knowledge in the area of your proposal?
06:34.20nick123so valorie you mean that it will be best to commit some bugs to have a good chance of slection?
06:34.29valorieand generally the mentors, like everybody else, works on something they love
06:34.43valorienick123: I mean that we require it
06:34.58nick123oh , okay
06:35.01valoriewithout commits, we won't consider proposals
06:35.20valoriethere are far too many "drive-by" proposals
06:35.59valoriewe want people who want to be part of and contribute to the community
06:36.04nick123i have never done open source and so how do i find easy bugs, all easy bugs on an org website may be already committed by someone?
06:36.29valoriein KDE for instance, we have bugs.kde.org
06:36.45valoriemost orgs will have something called bugs or issues
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06:39.04nick123_i got disconnected somehow so i had to reconnect ,
06:39.33nick123_valorie , is there a section on easy bugs on bugs.kde.org?
06:39.58valoriebugs.kde.org/jj
06:40.05valoriejj=junior jobs
06:40.15valoriehowever, they might be mostly done now
06:40.24nick123_oh.!
06:40.27valoriestudents have been asking for some months now
06:40.58nick123_but i learn about gsoc 2 days back only
06:41.21nick123_so will it be difficult for me?
06:41.26nick123_to be selected?
06:44.27nick123_the url does not open
06:44.31nick123_the jj one
06:44.50ram_valorie: Can confirm 404 error.
06:45.22ram_https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=jj
06:45.24ram_?
06:45.30nick123_yes it is giving same error
06:46.01nick123_https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&content=easy&no_redirect=1&order=Importance&query_format=specific
06:46.11nick123_is this a good way to search bugs?
06:46.17nick123_easy ones?
06:46.52valoriesearch junior job in the top search box
06:47.06valorieand I'll report the broken shortcut
06:47.16nick123_ok
06:49.40nick123_is kde really on os?
06:50.20nick123_is there a way to build kde from its source code to the installable file locally?
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06:58.22kblinmorning folks
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07:02.00mcintireevanMorning kblin
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07:07.08xz0rranyone there?
07:12.17kblinsure
07:12.24kblinalso...
07:12.31kblin!anyone | xz0rr
07:12.31gsocbotxz0rr: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
07:12.52kblinah, actually you'll have to wait for tonight for that link to work
07:13.50mcintireevanWhat time is the list of orgs going to be published?
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07:16.52ram_mcintireevan: 16:00 UTC
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07:22.01mcintireevanram_: Thanks!
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07:26.13xz0rrkblin: Any insider information on the list of the organizations? :P
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07:53.22kblinxz0rr: well, it's a great list, truly awesome. We have all the best lists here at #gsoc.
07:56.22xz0rrkblin: Thanks. Number of organizations this year?
07:57.59ollyYou'll see tomorrow
07:58.07ollyOr later today depending on timezone
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08:10.52CosminHi! Technically, it's 27.02.2017 based on the PST time. Where are the orgs?
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08:15.11marnczCosmin: the list we be announced in about 8 hours
08:15.28kblinCosmin: practiaclly, the list is not out yet
08:16.14CosminWhy 8 hours? Last night, somebody (official, I think) told us that the list will be announced at 00.00 PST
08:16.39CosminThere is some more accurate schedule posted somewhere?
08:18.16kblin!timeline | Cosmin
08:18.16gsocbotCosmin: "timeline" is (#1) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline, or (#2) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/timeline
08:18.55Cosminkblin: Thank you
08:19.43ollyIt seems unlikely they'd schedule it out of local office hours
08:22.17kblinI wouldn't want to push any buttons late Sunday night if there was an alternative
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08:24.16theswmHi !
08:24.41theswmAre the list of companies out ?
08:25.10Cosmintheswn: it will be published at 16:00 UTC
08:28.59theswmThankyou :)
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09:07.50kaustubhHi everyone. Does anyone has any idea that when will the list of mentors be announced?
09:08.24Cosminkaustubh: The list will be announced at 16:00 UTC
09:08.41Cosminin about 7 hours from now
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09:47.41pombredaactaully the list of mentor orgs. Accepted orgs will only then start signing up mentors
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09:50.28marnczkaustubh: you can already see a list of possible mentors
09:50.49marnczon orgs websites and project lists
09:51.23abhayManiyaris there a specific time when this year's organisations will be announced?
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09:55.41KulchaWabhayManiyar,  27 Feb 16:00 UTC
09:56.05abhayManiyarThank you Sir!
09:56.49rkpasiaHi
09:57.14rkpasiaAnyone online?
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10:03.24marnczrkpasia: yes, just ask your question
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10:31.42rideepwhen will be list of accepted organisations be published??
10:32.39teepee]rideep: later today as listed in the timeline
10:36.10marnczrideep: in about 6 hours
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10:41.13nikivihttp://write.flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/how-to-get-a-head-start/
10:41.20nikiviin here it says there is a student mailing list
10:41.24nikivibut how do you join it?
10:43.02Fresonikivi: I think you join it when you sign up on the GSoC site as a student.
10:46.55abhayManiyarSign up? where is it?
10:47.20FresoabhayManiyar: Not available yet.
10:48.16abhayManiyar@Freso- ok!
10:48.24Freso!timeline | abhayManiyar
10:48.24gsocbotabhayManiyar: "timeline" is (#1) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline, or (#2) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/timeline
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12:27.59magician03hello
12:28.30magician03when will the selected organisation list be be out ??
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12:30.14marnczmagician03: about 4 hours from now 16:00 UTc
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12:33.17malvericktoday only selected organisation list will be out or also the selected projects of particular organisation?
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12:34.15jn__only the list of orgs
12:34.54jn__projects are selected after the students write project proposals
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12:39.44Strangerke|workhi everybody
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12:49.33ThyrixStrangerke|work: hi
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12:50.18Strangerke|workhi Thyrix
12:53.18ThyrixStrangerke|work:Have you ever participated in gsoc?
12:56.04Strangerke|workThyrix: yes, 5 or 6 times so far
12:56.31Strangerke|workand it's as exciting as the first time, each year :)
12:57.35ThyrixStrangerke|work: wow!!Are you a mentor now?
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12:58.28Strangerke|workThyrix: mentor and org admin. What about you? Perhaps we should discuss in private to avoid to make too much useless noise in the channel
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13:02.30martianwars!stats
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13:02.39martianwars!help
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13:03.17martianwars!numapps
13:03.17gsocbotmartianwars: "numapps" is 2016: 178/369 orgs; 1206/7543 proposals, 5107 students. 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 props, 4425 students. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 props, 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 props, 4144 students. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 props, 4258 students. 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 props, 3731 students. 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 props, 3464 students
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13:05.11Freso!botspam | martianwars
13:05.19FresoNo?
13:05.23FresoWhat's that one again?
13:05.33martianwarsi'd forgotten numapps :P
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13:16.32blast007Freso: it's !botabuse  :)
13:16.52FresoThanks blast007 :)
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13:18.14martianwars!botabuse | martianwars
13:18.14gsocbotmartianwars: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>
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14:00.40venkat_How to check GSC announced organisations
14:00.57venkat_I am not able to see them on program site
14:01.12jn__wait a few hours, then check again
14:01.20panzonevenkat_: too early
14:01.25jn__they haven't been announced yet, AFAIK :)
14:01.39venkat_ok thanks
14:01.43nmagoI had the same question
14:01.50nmagothanks
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14:02.30marnczAbout 2 hours left! :)
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14:17.21Freso!timeline | venkat_
14:17.22gsocbotvenkat_: "timeline" is (#1) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline, or (#2) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/timeline
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14:28.17ShouryaHi!
14:28.27MaskySHello
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14:29.08Freso🙋
14:30.06ShouryaI'm going to be participating in this for the first time :)
14:30.13ShouryaI'm a bit confused however
14:30.23ShouryaShouldnt the organisations list be out by now>
14:30.26Shourya?*
14:30.37Strangerke|workShourya: Well, enjoy! :)  the orgs are not known yet, wait a couple of hours
14:30.57pombreda!timeline | Shourya
14:30.57gsocbotShourya: "timeline" is (#1) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline, or (#2) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/timeline
14:31.08ShouryaAlright thank you :D
14:31.10teolemonMeanwhile, you can try scanning a few snacks for Open Food Facts using your smartphone :-)
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14:31.35ShouryaI did cross check with the timeline, which is why i wondered
14:31.58MaskySShourya, time in the timeline is 16:00 UTC.
14:31.59Shourya(y)
14:32.04pombreda16:00 UTC, not yet it is
14:32.34MaskySit is 14:32 in UTC right now.
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14:34.05ShouryaDidnt check the time. First of the many mistakes im going to make through this journey
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14:36.19marnczCan ops include time in the topic?
14:36.36marnczthe topic*
14:38.24MaskySmarncz: That's a good idea.
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14:41.37marnczAnd different timezones would be cool
14:43.35blast007It's easy enough to convert UTC to your local time.  Some desktop environments can even have multiple clocks, so you could just add a UTC clock.
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14:46.06marnczblast007: true, but would be nice to include UTC times for the next deadline in the channel's topic
14:46.36blast007I didn't disagree with that.
14:46.53hawk_help
14:47.21blast007hawk_: with...?
14:47.47MaskyShawk_: We can't help you if you don't tell us your problem ..?
14:48.37hawk_Sorry, I'm just new to this whole thing!
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14:49.10nmagowe can create own web page with timings
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14:50.12hawk101hello everyone.
14:50.44jn__hello again, hawk101
14:51.10jn__(i'm not sure about the "again" part)
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14:52.37magician03hi
14:52.47jn__magician03: hi
14:53.06hawk101I'm really new to freenode. Is it secure? I just saw my ip is being shared.
14:53.24marncznmago: cool idea!
14:53.50jn__hawk101: if you register, you can configure a "cloak", that hides your ip address
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14:53.53magician03Why isnt accepted org list out yet ??
14:54.00KulchaWhawk101, you can ask for a cloak on #freenode
14:54.07intrigusBecause it's not yet 16:00 UTC
14:54.13intrigus@magician03
14:54.18magician03Ohh, 1 hr left then ??
14:54.18cannon2It will come out in one hour magician03
14:54.30magician03Cool, thanks :)
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15:18.00psuedoninjahello
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15:19.24marnczpsuedoninja: hello
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15:20.22psuedoninjawaiting for organisations!
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15:22.59marnczpsuedoninja: yes :) like most of us here I think
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15:23.17tkroosHola guys this is tony
15:23.38jn__tkroos: hi!
15:23.54tkroosSo just 37 min left, right ?
15:23.58jn__yes
15:24.05psuedoninja@tkroos : yes
15:24.06abhayManiyaryeah!
15:24.23tkroosI see everyone is excited and anxious at the same time :)
15:25.04abhayManiyarexactly!
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15:25.12tkroosnods
15:25.13abhayManiyarSo how many android devs here?
15:25.19marncztkroos: yup
15:27.25Fresois wanting to look into Kivy, but hasn't gotten so far yet
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15:31.18rzatsHi @here :) Are orgs announced in 30(-ish) or 90(-ish) minutes?
15:31.32jn__30
15:31.46rzatsNeat, thanks
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15:35.28sm_hey
15:36.10sm_can anyone tell me where to find participated organizations for this year's Gsoc
15:36.25sm_as today
15:36.39panzonesm_: too soon, just wait
15:36.57KulchaWstill half an hour to go
15:37.06sm_okay
15:37.25sm_thumbs up guy
15:37.29sm_*guys
15:37.31Freso!timeline | sm_
15:37.31gsocbotsm_: "timeline" is (#1) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline, or (#2) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/timeline
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15:37.42Freso~23 more minutes.
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15:43.17mcintireevan\o/
15:43.41mcintireevanLucky I don't have class the hour they come out, lol
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15:51.01voltbitHYPE!!!
15:51.06voltbitsorry
15:51.12marncz:)
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15:53.34MaskyST -10 Minutes :D
15:56.38sm_T-4
15:56.50sm_:D
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15:59.02Freso!countdown
15:59.03gsocbotFreso: "countdown" is Don't start a countdown. You will be removed from the channel.
15:59.16voltbitlol ^^
15:59.26marncz:)
15:59.26sm_upss!!
15:59.28FresoSoz gsocbot
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16:03.04nihal111Is it out?
16:03.14magician03is the org list out ??
16:03.21foowhizI don't see it...
16:03.22FresoCheck https://opensource.googleblog.com/ and https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/
16:03.22intrigusNo^^
16:03.23marncznihal111: not for me
16:03.30FresoIf you see it, yes. If you don't, no.
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16:03.53mcintireevanIt's several minutes late! Panic!
16:03.55voltbitoh well...I guess no one got selected, next year then
16:04.00Alaklol
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16:04.06Freso!next
16:04.07Strangerke|work:)
16:04.07gsocbotFreso: "next" is GSoC 2017 org application deadline Feb 09, 2917
16:04.11FresoOh.
16:04.15voltbitlol ^^
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16:04.21FresoSorry. Didn't mean to trigger an actual command. :p
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16:04.24rzatsSee you in 899-ish years.
16:04.24marnczIn 900 years?
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16:04.26FresoAlso, that's outdated.
16:04.37FresoEh.
16:04.39magician03is it late every year like this ?
16:04.40xz0rrIs the org list out yet?
16:04.42FresoI guess it's not outdated.
16:04.46MaskySnot announced yet lol
16:04.46magician03nope!!
16:04.46tkroosstay calm people
16:04.52MaskySAlways happens.
16:04.54Freso!tea
16:04.54gsocbotFreso: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
16:05.05sm_:D
16:05.09panzone(I'm actually having some tea right now)
16:05.11Fresosips his chamomille tea
16:05.12marnczJust be calm and keep on mashing F5
16:05.15MaskySWhether it's gsoc or gci it's the same thing haha :/
16:05.16magician03in 1 hr ??
16:05.34tkrooswho are the veterans here ?
16:05.35Fresomagician03: No, announcement time was 5 minutes ago. I'm sure they're working on it. :)
16:05.37stefanhaI suspect that this year's GSoC is only for time traveling orgs
16:05.42tkroostell us master ?
16:05.46stefanhaThey applied by application deadline Feb 09, 2917
16:05.50stefanha:)
16:05.51mcintireevanThey must be doing great work
16:05.55titan93n1 stefanha
16:06.09MaskySlol
16:06.16Fresomcintireevan: They sure are! Great workers they are. We only have the best work here!
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16:06.50mcintireevanOur code is Tremendous!
16:07.03AlakBig league.
16:07.05magician03Im having my exams :|
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16:07.26magician03how long does it gonna take any idea guys ??
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16:07.37FresoNope.
16:07.38techfreakwormI'm waiting for the same
16:07.40sm_can't see list of orgs
16:07.43Freso!tea | magician03
16:07.43gsocbotmagician03: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
16:07.48xz0rrany gsoc admins here?
16:07.51FresoIt'll be out soon enough.
16:07.52sm_hope they are working on it
16:07.53Strangerke|worksm_: it's not ready yet
16:07.57mcintireevanIm just doing HW while waiting :)
16:08.08hxidkddoing HW too
16:08.14techfreakwormHW?
16:08.18FresoHomework.
16:08.19Lima!tea !tea !tea
16:08.20panzonehomework I presume?
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16:08.25Strangerke|workxz0rr: if you have a question you should ask :)
16:08.26mcintireevanYup
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16:08.53rzats!hotchocolate
16:08.59intrigus!pizza
16:09.00rzats:(
16:09.01Freso!chocolate
16:09.04FresoOh.,
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16:09.10mcintireevanHot Chocolate is so great
16:09.11voltbitit must be a british bot
16:09.13jeffreylevesque_is there a list?
16:09.22jeffreylevesque_for accepted organizations
16:09.23panzoneI'm kinda miss where I had homeworks and classes
16:09.25MaskyS!chocolate | Freso
16:09.32specteijeffreylevesque_, it will be published soon
16:09.39MaskySlol no chocolate for you
16:09.43jeffreylevesque_what's the acceptance rate?
16:09.46spectei<Freso> Check https://opensource.googleblog.com/ and https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/
16:09.53specteijeffreylevesque_, depends on the org
16:09.54marncz!numsapp
16:10.01marncz!numapp
16:10.01gsocbotmarncz: "numapp" is see !numapps
16:10.14marncz!numapps
16:10.14gsocbotmarncz: "numapps" is 2016: 178/369 orgs; 1206/7543 proposals, 5107 students. 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 props, 4425 students. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 props, 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 props, 4144 students. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 props, 4258 students. 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 props, 3731 students. 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 props, 3464 students
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16:10.39nick123.
16:10.39ishan1604Google is usually pretty strict with deadlines
16:10.43xz0rrwhere are the logs of this channel?
16:10.49martianwarslast time it was 3-4 min late
16:10.53ishan1604I am wondering why we don't see them yet
16:10.56KulchaW!logs | xz0rr
16:10.57gsocbotxz0rr: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
16:10.59BigOChiefishan1604: they always are
16:11.01mcintireevan10 minutes late! Hysteria! Ahh!
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16:11.18nick123hi all, was it not that orgs werre going to be declared at 1600 hrs UTC?
16:11.22ishan1604Its 5 PM here
16:11.25nick123but it is not up yet
16:11.28MaskySit is not..
16:11.40MaskySGoogle has changed the deadline to their whim it seems
16:11.41jeffreylevesque_so, a little less than half get accepted?
16:11.42nick123any guesses of the reason fo delay?
16:11.43ishan1604And real devs roll out at 5 PM
16:11.44ishan1604:D
16:11.46Strangerke|worknick123: yes, it's not published yet, but soon enough
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16:12.00MaskySnick123: They're probably off for tea break
16:12.06magician03any rep from gsoc or google here ??
16:12.22hackrush!tea
16:12.22gsocbothackrush: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
16:12.28nick123ha ha, yeah may be. ! let them enjoy
16:12.31marnczcron jobs should not go on tea breaks
16:12.31hackrush!late
16:12.40panzonemarncz: why not
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16:12.52nick123but their enjoyment pains us
16:12.56jeffreylevesque_anyone have their projects on github?
16:13.20marnczpanzone: coz punctuality is sort of their thing :o
16:13.21jeffreylevesque_i have a hit from Domains / n-dbdeqjkt3rm4eivjnx56xoidtg7o2j5dcvhnstq-0lu-script.googleusercontent.com
16:13.21techfreakwormjefferylevesqye_: Yeah I do
16:13.34Strangerke|workditto
16:13.36titan93i have my exams tomorrow but here I am waiting for the gsoc orgs list to come in!!!
16:13.36jeffreylevesque_probably their judging panel
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16:14.10Fresotitan93: If you have exams tomorrow, there are more important things to do than check the GSoC mentor org. list.
16:14.14jeffreylevesque_this is my project - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning
16:14.20mash_Thanks to the team at Google that organizes Google Summer of Code.
16:14.33maulik12any updates on the organizations?
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16:14.39maulik12it has been 15 minutes
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16:14.58MaskyS14, to be exact.
16:15.02MaskySah yikes
16:15.03titan93Freso yes I know but I just can't help it
16:15.10MaskyStime got me :(
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16:15.17ishan1604Maybe they are delaying it like game of thrones this year ?
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16:15.26ishan1604because last winter came late :p
16:15.33marnczwhen this channel goes silent for a bit you know the list is out :)
16:15.33jeffreylevesque_are you guys mentors, or students?
16:15.41ishan1604Mentor
16:15.45FresoOr maybe they forgot that they said 16:00 UTC and are doing it at 17:00 UTC.
16:15.49jeffreylevesque_what's your project ishan1604
16:15.51hackrushhttps://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/api/program/current/
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16:16.07hackrushthis says orgs_published_starts":"2017-02-27T17:00:00Z
16:16.17hackrushso about 45 mins still left
16:16.22Guest37272is the accepted organizations list out?
16:16.23hackrushnear about
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16:16.33MaskySWhat in the actual...?!
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16:16.38FresoE.g., all the times at https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/timeline are 17:00 UTC.
16:16.49ishan1604@jeffreylevesque_ https://github.com/openMF/android-client/
16:17.16nick123"2017-02-27T17:00:00 yeah, ! i found it too
16:17.18FresoRobert_S: You may want to poke the rest of OSPO to either change https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline or the announcement times in the code.
16:17.23mcintireevanHaha, I guess whatever time we saw before was wrong
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16:17.43diehlpkFreso, February 27 16:00 UTCList of accepted mentoring organizations published
16:17.44maulik12yes it is written that organizations will be published at 17:00 UTC
16:17.52YashdSaraf_hackrush: from that atleast we know there are 568 orgs :P
16:17.59maulik12I guess we have to wait
16:18.00marncznobody double checked it?
16:18.02mcintireevan¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:18.08Fresodiehlpk: Yes. As hackrush et al noticed, the code has the announcement set to 17:00 UTC.
16:18.09marnczYashdSaraf_: this many applied I think
16:18.12mcintireevanMore time to do these proofs then
16:18.33xz0rrYashdSaraf_: 568 is all time number not this year
16:18.45jeffreylevesque_dang that's a lot
16:18.47techfreakwormhttps://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline   it still says : UTC
16:18.50FresoRobert_S: Esp. if the rest of the times on the timeline are also actually going to be 17:00 UTC. :)
16:18.52YashdSaraf_xz0rr: oh alright
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16:19.27MaskySSlurpee: You're early even though you're late lol
16:19.33titan93hey ishan1604 sorry for going all noob for you, but what all are you looking for in an aspiring mentee?
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16:20.10nick123but why did google do so?
16:20.11hackrush@YashdSaraf didn't notice that myself
16:20.25nick123it says on portal 1600 utc and code has 1700 utc?
16:20.26Fresonick123: :shrug:
16:20.27ishan1604@titan93 Willingness to be a mentor and experience, with tech stack of the project you want to mentor.
16:20.40nick123what is shrug?
16:21.00Fresonick123: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrug
16:21.10MaskySInconsistencyKills™
16:21.20BigOChiefhttps://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
16:21.22nick123oh.!
16:21.23hackrushbut that 568 is an all time number I guess
16:21.23titan93@ishan1604 I meant in a student.
16:21.31FresoBigOChief: We know.
16:21.32hackrushit's given in the main page also
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16:22.08jeffreylevesque_i'd really like to get picked as an org
16:22.11ishan1604@titan93 Uhh My Bad! I somehow misread mentee as mentor :(
16:22.34titan93@ishan1604 haha its okay. :)
16:22.36jeffreylevesque_we're going to setup a slack channel i think
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16:23.04Fresohttps://xkcd.com/1782/
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16:23.15FresoIRC > *
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16:23.26SlurpeeFreso++
16:23.31GoldenWingsIs accepted organization announced yet?
16:23.39Limanop
16:23.40Strangerke|workno, not yet
16:23.40randommanWhere can I find org list
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16:23.53Fresorandomman: In the future.
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16:23.54ZeeshanNope
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16:24.05randommanAny idea when will it be out?
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16:24.33Strangerke|workrandomman: a theory is that it'll be published at 5pm UTC instead of 4pm UTC, but that's just a theory
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16:24.50FresoA GSOC THEORY!
16:24.53MaskySmarncz: what do you mean
16:24.54MaskyS?
16:24.58Freso(Soz.)
16:25.03teepee]yes, expect 5pm as same thing happened at org deadline too
16:25.12teepee]so just get a tea and relax :)
16:25.19ishan1604Maybe trump put a ban on the program ?
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16:25.23teepee]or coffee, or chocolate, ...
16:25.24GoldenWingsHaha :D
16:25.36Strangerke|workor whatever is legal in you country/state...
16:25.43Strangerke|work*your
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16:25.56marnczMaskyS: what do you mean?
16:26.11MaskySmarncz: sorry, I misread there
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16:26.16marnczMaskyS: cool
16:27.53googlingorgs still not announced?
16:27.58GoldenWingsnope
16:28.05jeffreylevesque_hoping soon
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16:28.18MaskySin another 30 mins, no less.
16:28.29googlinghope so.
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16:30.07utkbansalHi, has the list of accepted orgs been released? Its over 16:00 UTC and I can't find it on the official site.
16:30.20randommanNope
16:30.21MaskySnope not yet.
16:30.25Strangerke|workutkbansal: not yet. soon.
16:30.31randommanWait for 30 min - public opinion
16:30.38MaskySanother 30 minutes it seems...
16:30.43SGUPTAright
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16:30.57tameeshbYea, 1700 UTC
16:31.01utkbansalokay!
16:31.57sm_still isn't there
16:31.59sm_:3
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16:33.23oliveratutexashi again
16:33.32hussainjhowdy
16:33.35tameeshboliveratutexas:  Hello!
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16:34.22Guest14366hey when would the org list be announced
16:34.44Guest14366as per the information on official site ,it should be announced by now
16:34.45hussainjSometime after half an hour ago.
16:34.53hussainjHopefully soon.
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16:35.51Guest14366is there any delay  in announcement?
16:36.18stefanhaGuest14366: The announcement time is 17:00 UTC, not 16:00 UTC as many of us thought.
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16:36.32hussainjOh huh.
16:36.33|Kev|I like that devs are about the worst people in the world at sticking to deadlines/estimates, and yet are worried by a 30minute slip in other people :D
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16:36.37Slurpeeis surprised that so many international students don't understand UTC. lol
16:36.51Freso!timeline | Slurpee
16:36.51gsocbotSlurpee: "timeline" is (#1) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline, or (#2) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/timeline
16:37.04FresoSlurpee: That page says 16:00 UTC, which was half an hour ago.
16:37.05SlurpeeIf you're going to be a programmer/systems person...timezones are very important ;)
16:37.15FresoSeems like the actual time is actually 17:00 UTC.
16:37.18|Kev|Slurpee: Hmm? It *is* gone 16:00 UTC. :)
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16:37.27Slurpee(it's always the same time every year)
16:37.27FresoIt's quite understandable that a lot of people are confused.
16:37.42randommanFreso: #OSCARS
16:37.47Fresorandomman: :D
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16:38.10Fresois glad he browses imgur so he gets references like that, since he doesn't actually watch the sources first hand
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16:38.14MaskyS#WAIT
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16:38.34MaskySFreso: imgur, really? :P
16:38.38SlurpeeI was mainly referencing the flood of emails asking where the list is
16:38.40FresoMaskyS: Yes.
16:38.52FresoSlurpee: Ah. I didn't even check maillist yet.
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16:39.55FresoAh. Guess I'm not actually subscribed to student ml.
16:40.15jeffreylevesquewhat's student ml?
16:40.24Fresoml = mailing list
16:40.28jeffreylevesqueah yea
16:40.47jeffreylevesquebeen associating ml with machine learning
16:41.09FresoYay! Overloaded terms!
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16:41.50nick123i have a problem , is anyone of you could possibly help?
16:41.57hjkI'm sure there are ml mls too.
16:42.08nick123i was trying to build vlc on my pc but i could not
16:42.16carrybubbleswhen can i see project's list?
16:42.27hjk17 utc apparently
16:42.32hjkBuilding it on Windows?
16:42.38nick123yes
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16:42.58|Kev|The VLC channel would be the appropriate place for that, rather than here.
16:42.59sursurat what time will the organisation be announced for gsoc 2017
16:43.00carrybubblesthx
16:43.16Strangerke|worksursur: possibly 5pm UTC
16:43.21hjkdev Should probably put this in the topic line.
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16:43.33sursurohkk thanxx
16:43.45Strangerke|workcarrybubbles: not published yet, but soon
16:43.47nick123okay
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16:44.20MaskySAny ops around?
16:44.29nikhilweeewell 1700 utc is way too late. the day's off for half of the world :(
16:44.53hjkgotta remember that google hq is utc-8 though
16:45.03hjkso that's morning for them.
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16:45.14mcintireevan9am for Google
16:45.50aashayIts already 16:00 UTC, when is the organisation list coming out?
16:46.07tameeshbaashay:  1700 UTC
16:46.17aashaytameeshb: thanks :)
16:46.20hjkpokes an op
16:46.21nick123does is matter if the day is over for half of the world? we are still awake in wait of that list to be published
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16:47.07utkbansal"we" have no night i guess
16:47.20MaskySnick123: That is true, but google took an extra hour of sleep for us ;/
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16:47.29MaskySfrom*
16:47.42hjkWell you could always check it later tonight you know.
16:47.50hjkBut no reset for the impatient, I guess.
16:47.54Strangerke|workMaskyS: Sleep less, code more!
16:48.27hjkI prefer More to Less anyway.
16:48.36utkbansalsleep is just another unaffordable luxury..
16:48.54nick123MaskyS : yeah.! but we cant help it
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16:49.33SturadLast year's GSOC coded a robot who can sleep for you so you don't need to
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16:49.43mcintireevanNo matter what time it's announced, people will be unhappy about it, to be fair
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16:50.04Strangerke|workmcintireevan: true :)
16:50.07voltbit10min
16:50.09FresoHello sttaylor ;)
16:50.10voltbitagain
16:50.11Strangerke|workhey, hi sttaylor :)
16:50.14meflin!countdown
16:50.15gsocbotmeflin: "countdown" is Don't start a countdown. You will be removed from the channel.
16:50.36sttaylorhi all : )
16:50.42hjklaughs
16:50.51MaskySStrangerke|work: As much as I'd like to work by that mantra, it takes down the quality of the work u produce during those sleepless hrs
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16:51.24gsocbotKR1: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
16:51.34MaskySStrangerke|work: Well, that's what I tell myself when I stay up late, which is, pretty much everyday :P
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16:52.16foowhizNumber of IRC users seems to be at an all time high...
16:52.30hjkIt's the announce suspense.
16:52.36hjkEverybody wants to hop on and ask when.
16:52.37foowhizJust keeps stacking up.
16:52.43RobertTeamHow many people are usually on this channel?
16:52.54foowhizAround 200, AFAIK.
16:53.03sm_whoami
16:53.21sm_ups
16:53.22RobertTeamThat's more than I thought
16:53.35teolemonThings have started moving: unfortunately, Open Food Facts won't be able to be a mentor organisation this year.
16:53.49wasiq@hjk when? XD I'm here to see the hulaboo
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16:54.11teolemonFeel free to contribute anyway to our mission of opening the world's food and cosmetic information :-)
16:54.25utkbansalhow do you know that?
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16:55.08Xz00rList out yet?
16:55.12utkbansalnope
16:55.19wasiqnope
16:55.20utkbansal1700 utc
16:55.23titan93yest teolemon how do you know that?
16:55.24hjkAssuming orgs get notified of their status before the official announcement.
16:55.26utkbansal5 min to go
16:55.30utkbansali guess
16:55.31chadzbassDidn't know about open food facts, looks amazing
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16:56.00sttaylororg donÕt get notified before the announcement
16:56.03nick123i hope these 5 mins be 5 mins and not become 50 mins suddenly
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16:56.09Quasarstill waiting and refreshing
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16:56.28utkbansalhopefuly..
16:56.28sttaylorno need to refresh - itÕs 4 minutes awayÉ it wonÕt come sooner...
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16:56.45SturadHow many GSOC mentors does it take to change a lightbulb?
16:56.58utkbansalmany :P
16:57.12titan93its a hardware issue?
16:57.14nick12332
16:57.22satwant32
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16:57.33psuedoninjawaiting ..........
16:57.36titan93why 32?
16:57.38hjkYou don't know until the org list gets released, which is always an hour from now.
16:57.47SturadTwo: one to describe to the student how to change a lightbulb and the other to read the emails about it
16:58.03utkbansalso i was right kinda
16:58.03nick123you can relate it to 32 bits
16:58.18nick123titan93:
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16:59.01nick123by the way on which url do you think will the list be announced? n homepage or somewher else?
16:59.03whosicI'm more worried about the brute force methods iitians are going to use.
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16:59.18foowhizBrute force for what?
16:59.30whosicto introduce themselves.
16:59.31hjkStudents would never change a lightbulb anyway, they have to fork the lightbulb into a local repo and then submit a patch or a pull request.
16:59.32utkbansalchanging the bulb?!
16:59.51whosicand talk to mentors etc etc.
16:59.56titan93whosic yes, could you elaborate?
17:00.07nick123whosic: what do you mean by intorducing? yes please eleborate
17:00.09utkbansalits here
17:00.09foowhizwhosic, iiitians too?
17:00.11Fresosttaylor: Can you update https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline to say 17:00 UTC (or make someone update it)? :)
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17:00.16Quasaryesss
17:00.22|Kev|Freso: It's 17:00, so this is largely irrelevant at this point :)
17:00.27marnczOut now :)
17:00.29chadzbassthey're up
17:00.31nick1231 minute to go
17:00.35chadzbasskinda
17:00.36jeffreylevesquewhere?
17:00.40Freso|Kev|: Plenty other announcements coming up.
17:00.42carrybubbles!!!!
17:00.43carrybubblesgo go
17:00.44nick123fantastic
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17:00.48titan93the organizations button is greyed out for me
17:00.48nick123go go go
17:00.53maulik12you can access it here
17:00.53maulik12https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
17:00.55Freso|Kev|: If they're all going to be 17:00 UTC, it's no good that they all say 16:00 UTC.
17:00.56utkbansalnot clickable
17:00.57nick123me too
17:00.58magician03yup its out
17:01.00utkbansalgoogle played us
17:01.01utkbansal:P
17:01.03chadzbassclickable for me, but no organizations
17:01.07|Kev|Freso: Oh, the others too. Fair.
17:01.08nick123yes lets sue google
17:01.08foowhizrefresh it's clickable
17:01.13foowhizyou'll have to search
17:01.33utkbansalyeah clickable now but no orgs
17:01.34voltbitlive
17:01.40magician03need to search guys
17:01.45KulchaWya
17:01.50martianwars!numapps
17:01.50gsocbotmartianwars: "numapps" is 2016: 178/369 orgs; 1206/7543 proposals, 5107 students. 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 props, 4425 students. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 props, 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 props, 4144 students. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 props, 4258 students. 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 props, 3731 students. 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 props, 3464 students
17:01.52titan93go to specific options like end user applications
17:02.04hxidkdno project ideas?
17:02.08carrybubblesno results found
17:02.08carrybubblescool
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17:02.11nmagothere is a button, but it is not enabled
17:02.16carrybubbleslets wait a bit
17:02.37satwantclear
17:02.38panzonebut if you search for a specific org you can find it
17:02.39Quasarwe have to select a category i guess
17:02.40nmagoand the button linked to /organizations
17:02.42SlurpeeCongratulations to all of the applying organizations who were selected.
17:02.45dsfjlsdgo to categories, it works then
17:02.46|Kev|sttaylor: Thank you very much (XMPP). No badly-timed server failures this year :)
17:02.50maulik12you cannot access categories all
17:02.56maulik12you can choose any category
17:03.02voltbitcongratulations!
17:03.07maulik12and that category organizations are displayed
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17:03.39martianwarsonly 48 orgs?
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17:04.10jeffreylevesquehow can you tell only 48?
17:04.11martianwarsoh my bad
17:04.16sttaylor201 orgs
17:04.22sttaylorbiggest GSoC ever!
17:04.26nmagoguys, now it is available
17:04.36nmagoawesomee
17:05.00nick123can we not see all orgs in all cat>
17:05.01nick123?
17:05.02Slurpeesttaylor++
17:05.08panzoneunfortunately I can't partecipate as a student this year
17:05.19panzonebut uao, 201 orgs
17:05.38magician03omg 201 ??
17:05.38kblin|Kev|: and you also made sure your ideas list was public? ;)
17:05.41magician03thats huge
17:05.47nmagonick123 , we can
17:05.55|Kev|kblin: Indeed. Learn from the mistakes of others :)
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17:06.29nick123okay, let me try again
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17:06.43kblinsttaylor: Thanks a bunch, also for keeping up with gsoc-support emails despite being close to the deadline
17:07.06sttaylorkblin: you are welcome, I try to multi task : )
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17:07.47whosicAmazing..
17:07.51Valodimwe're in, woo \o/
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17:08.03kblinhmm
17:08.11kblineyes BackLog-bot
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17:09.03nick123nmago: i am not able to see all orgs at one, it shows no results found
17:09.37kblinif the owner of BackLog-bot reads the backlog: please add your contact information to your bot's /whois info, in case it's misbehaving
17:10.04kblinnick123: I'm sure that'll be fixed soonish
17:10.57nick123okay.
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17:11.31magician03hello
17:11.50magician03guys, is there a way to know the number of slots an org is alloted ??
17:12.11oliveratutexas^^^
17:12.12tobbi[m]Haha, we weren't accepted. I still wonder if we would've been if we had more assigned mentors
17:12.13nick123what is slots>
17:12.16meflinsince orgs haven't even asked for slots yet .. no
17:12.30tobbi[m]If anyone can give us feedback on that, go ahead.
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17:12.51magician03nah, org in their application mention the no of slots they require AFAIK
17:12.57tobbi[m]I mean: We had 1 mentor - me, which of course isn't acceptable.
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17:13.11jn__there's a lot of orgs in the list that i haven't seen in gsoc lists before
17:13.13jn__interesting
17:13.16Strangerke|worktobbi[m]: you work solo? :(
17:13.16sttaylor37 new orgs
17:13.20hackrush!help
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17:13.21kblinmagician03: but, from past experience, I would guess it's a number from 0-100
17:13.23invilink to org ?
17:13.29sttaylorwe require an org to have a community (which is more than one person)
17:13.46tkroosmail
17:14.12TobbiStrangerke|work: No, but I was the only one who agreed to mentor. Other people signed up but couldn't get to mentoring, either because they were too young or they didn't want to sign up with GMail
17:14.15TobbiOr something like that.
17:14.18invipls give the link where the orgs are announced ?
17:14.26kblintobbi[m]: I think we're not doing the public feedback sessions anymore, as the time needed for those was insane
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17:14.34Tobbikblin: Alright. No worries.
17:14.46invi@sttaylor link to orgs ?
17:14.53jn__tobbi[m]: there's a "Copyleft Games" org, which has been accepted. maybe you could work with them on supertux?
17:15.02TobbiPerhaps...
17:15.18TobbiBut I am not sure whether I would have the time required to mentor anyway.
17:15.24TobbiMy schedule is pretty strict these days.
17:15.25kblinTobbi: that being said, I think carol did feedback via email last year. maybe sttaylor feels like doing this as well?
17:15.28invijn__ link pls ?
17:15.38anagh_Where will i get the list of selectedd orgs for gsoc 2017 ?
17:15.43TobbiGuys, I will get back to you later, if I feel like it.
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17:15.52sttaylorhttps://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
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17:16.21hjkMight be a good idea to change the topic line now?
17:16.26sttaylorkblin: I did feedback via email last year : )
17:16.27nick123the orgs that i wish to apply to have some "technologies" that i dont know, so now what do i do?
17:16.39nick123any suggesstion?
17:16.40nikiviyou can try to study these technologies
17:16.46invithanks
17:17.05anagh_@sttaylor it says We couldn't find an account for you...  Registration is currently not open.  Student applications will be accepted starting on March 20, 2017 at 21:30 (India Standard Time).
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17:17.21sttaylorwe will do the same thing this year, and will give some feedback via email for rejected orgs if they request it
17:17.24nick123will i be able to study them good enough before application begins?
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17:17.40Strangerke|worknick123: the deadline to submit your form is 20/3, so you have 3 months to get involved and learn. That's feasible, really
17:17.47sttayloranagh_: yes, what is your question?
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17:17.52Strangerke|work*3 weeks
17:18.25anagh_<PROTECTED>
17:18.35panzonenick123: ask your orgs. remember that you want to partecipate to an open source project and entering in their community.
17:18.38kblinanagh_: try in a private window?
17:18.43Strangerke|worknick123: (5 weeks until the deadline, either)
17:18.53anagh_Yeah working now.
17:19.19nick123okay, thnaks
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17:19.58kblinsttaylor: wait, hang on, what year is it? :)
17:20.12kblinsttaylor: I must be getting old, of course you did
17:20.46itsarjunsinh_Hello. I have a certain project idea in mind which although is technical but it is not related to products/services built by any organization that I have discovered yet. ie. I have found a couple organizations that use the same technology. Basically I have an idea, that I want to develop. So I can still apply to any organization that uses the same technology as my project?
17:21.05kblinsttaylor: this is my 10th gsoc as an org admin, it's all beginning to be a bit blurry for past gsocs :)
17:21.10sttaylorkblin:  :)
17:21.28jn__itsarjunsinh_: ask the org's mentors
17:21.29sttaylorkblin: I understand completely
17:21.49itsarjunsinh_Ok. Thanks.
17:21.59MaskySkblin: haha. What org are you from?
17:22.06panzoneitsarjunsinh_: ask those organizations. in general you can't even think about writing a proposal before introducing yourself and learning a little about the org
17:22.32itsarjunsinh_Oh I see?
17:22.32panzonewell, you can, but it's not a great idea
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17:23.42kblinMaskyS: funnily enough, that has changed once in a while, but this year I'm an admin for Samba and for the Open Bioinformatics Foundation
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17:24.52*** topic/#gsoc by sttaylor -> :
17:25.35MaskySkblin: it's possible to be org admin for 2 orgs at the same time? :o
17:25.56*** topic/#gsoc by sttaylor -> Google Summer of Code organizations announced g.co/gsoc Students apply starting March 20 16:00 UTC
17:26.01meflinMaskyS: yes it is
17:26.20MaskySmeflin: well that's nice.. but 2x more work haha
17:26.48kblinMaskyS: true. I only do it because admining for OBF aligns nicely with my $dayjob, so I can do that during work time
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17:27.08mhilssttaylor: congrats on cracking the 200 org mark! :)
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17:27.28MaskySkblin: oh ok. Yeah, I guess it's a nice pretext to have some off-time during work :P
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17:28.15kblinMaskyS: pretext? off-time? we're talking about gsoc, not meetings
17:28.20mcintireevanWow, there's some really cool orgs this year. Gonna have to narrow down my list a lot!
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17:28.55MaskySkblin: ok
17:29.06MaskySIt's time to doze off it seems
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17:36.04kblinoooh, adurpilot is in this year's gsoc
17:36.10kblinthat's a pretty awesome project
17:36.34BigOChiefA significant increase in orgs :)
17:36.57jn__kblin: what do i need to type in the search bar to find adurpilot?
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17:37.24hjkIt's going to be hard to decide on a couple of these to apply to, wow.
17:37.28vintageplayer@BigOChief not sure if intake increases significantly but
17:37.49hjkEven in my narrow interest of scientific computing there's a whole bunch of new ones.
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17:38.16kblinjn__: adrupilot, sorry
17:38.21kbliner
17:38.24kblinkhaaaaan
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17:38.37kblincan't type today
17:38.40kblinjn__: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/5365801306554368/
17:39.00jn__ah, thanks
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17:43.28kblinwow, really cool list of orgs this year
17:43.40kblinalmost makes me wish I still was a student :)
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17:44.23teepee]oh, yes, I can totally agree with that :)
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17:46.33mcintireevanWould you all reccomend applying to a few orgs that interest us or going hard one 1-2?
17:46.43mcintireevanon, not one
17:46.45Fresomcintireevan: The latter.
17:47.05Freso!numbers
17:47.18Fresohas terrible gsocbot-fu today :(
17:47.30jn__!numapps
17:47.30gsocbotjn__: "numapps" is 2016: 178/369 orgs; 1206/7543 proposals, 5107 students. 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 props, 4425 students. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 props, 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 props, 4144 students. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 props, 4258 students. 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 props, 3731 students. 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 props, 3464 students
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17:47.47Fresojn__: That's not the one I wanted.
17:47.53jn__hmm
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17:48.39kblinhmm
17:48.52mcintireevanThanks Freso :)
17:48.53Freso!odds
17:48.53gsocbotFreso: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead.
17:49.35kblindarn, I still have that feature request for a page with all the factoids in the gsocbot database
17:49.55FresoMaking a really good application for one org. nets you a far higher chance than "playing the numbers" and making mediocre applications for several org.s.
17:50.04mcintireevanMakes sense
17:51.06kblinit's not a lottery, after all
17:51.37hjkBut making a really good application for multiple orgs is better than making a really good application for one.
17:52.15kblinalso much harder
17:52.24opticodHi! Anyone knows how orgs are chosen ? Actually my org is not in the list. I was one of the probable mentor in that. [also GSoC student 2016]
17:52.46kblinopticod: there's multiple factors, I'm sure
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17:53.28kblinbut based on the feedback for orgs in the past year, having a functional open source community and a good ideas page are among the more important factors
17:54.30opticodok, thanks @kblin
17:54.37Fresohjk: Keep in mind that multiple organisations also require code from the applicant to get committed to one of their repositories and possibly some level of community involvement. Having an active presence in several org.s's communities and also making patches for these can be quite time consuming.
17:55.35hjkAhh fair enough.
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17:56.47kblinopticod: that said, if your org admin is interested what caused the org to not get selected, sttaylor mentioned she's happy to give feedback via email
17:56.50sheyHi!
17:57.15sheyGuys is the list out yet?
17:57.35kblinsure
17:57.55jn__shey: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
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17:58.00kblin!orgs | shey
17:58.00gsocbotshey: "orgs" is https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2016/organizations/
17:58.02kbliner
17:58.04kblindurn
17:58.07kblin!forget orgs
17:58.08gsocbotkblin: The operation succeeded.
17:58.18kblin!learn orgs as https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
17:58.19gsocbotkblin: "orgs" is https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
17:58.21kblinthere we go
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18:07.50Robert_S!forget orgs
18:07.50gsocbotRobert_S: The operation succeeded.
18:07.56Robert_S!learn orgs as https://g.co/gsoc/orgs
18:07.57gsocbotRobert_S: "orgs" is https://g.co/gsoc/orgs
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18:10.24randommanHow many orgs this year?
18:10.36warriorcould somebody list the new orgs just for help
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18:11.34kblinfactoids don't override built-in commands, I'm afraid
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18:19.09dexter5!numbers
18:19.26dexter5!numapps
18:19.26gsocbotdexter5: "numapps" is 2016: 178/369 orgs; 1206/7543 proposals, 5107 students. 2015: 137/416 orgs; 1051/6409 props, 4425 students. 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 props, 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 props, 4144 students. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 props, 4258 students. 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 props, 3731 students. 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 props, 3464 students
18:20.47dexter5!help
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18:23.07sclvthis is the second year in a row we've been rejected (haskell.org) after a run of very successful gsocs
18:23.28sclvis there any forum we can get feedback on our application and what could have gone differently or better?
18:23.54kblinsclv: yes, via email
18:24.01kblin!support | sclv
18:24.01gsocbotsclv: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com.
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18:24.14sclvok, thanks
18:24.27sclvi'll write an email and cross my fingers
18:24.35sclvi'd really like to understand what we can do better next year
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18:44.04Fresosohail__: Hello. What do you need help with?
18:44.48sohail__Hi freso thanks for your kind response
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18:46.47sohail__I am interested an Artificial intelegence project CloudCV. I want to know how much skills should be require.
18:47.32Fresosohail__: You should ask them. I'm not sure if anyone related to that project are in here.
18:48.22sohail__Ok freso thanks . Please give me some hint if I am applying for some kind of project.
18:48.42Freso... I don't know how to parse that last sentence.
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18:50.40sohail__I want some hint that how I should send proposal to mentor.
18:51.36Fresosohail__: Read the information about the org. on the GSoC homepage and then read the org.'s GSoC information linked to from there.
18:51.37FresoAlso.
18:51.42Freso!studentguide | sohail__
18:51.42gsocbotsohail__: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/
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18:56.14sohail__Thans Freso
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19:32.40theswmHey, can I apply to GSoC as a team ?
19:32.58theswmOr do I need to apply independently ?
19:33.16meflineach student apply independently
19:33.36theswmWhat if I want to apply as a team ?
19:33.43meflinyou may not
19:33.53theswmOkay 😓
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19:49.30hjkHm. Does anyone know if CERN accepts more undergrads or grads for their projects, or if that isn't a consideration usually?
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19:50.15hjkThey have a lot of stuff I'd be interested in, but I don't want to invest a lot of effort into applying if it's very unlikely to be accepted as an undergrad.
19:50.38jn__ask them
19:51.45hjkNot sure where I'd ask... Their projects seem to be scattered throughout a handful of different groups.
19:51.56hjkGuess I can ask the individual projects I'm interested in though, hm.
19:56.12PulkoMandystudy level should not be a problem, if you can write a convincing application
19:56.28PulkoMandyso yes, get in touch with them, start discussing things, and write a good applications, and see how that goes
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20:18.46downeyHappy gsoc, everyone!
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20:31.51hjkDoes the HEP SF or CERN have an IRC channel somewhere? I can't find any mention.
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20:38.35ollyhjk: if they don't list one, we can only assume they don't have one
20:39.18hjkThat's going to make first contact awkward...
20:39.37ollydo they not list other ways to contact?
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20:39.55hjkWell they have a google group.
20:40.05ollythen contact them there
20:40.06hjkIt seems like.
20:40.18ollyif they don't use IRC, then IRC is not going to work for contacting them
20:40.32ollyif you prefer an org that uses IRC, then try another
20:40.55hjkYeah... I just find centralized mailing lists slightly more awkward for intros. Oh well.
20:41.26regentdid you find an org already?
20:42.01hjkYeah I'm most interested in CERN/HSF.
20:42.18regentlol yeah they don't seem like the irc sort
20:42.39regentthat's super cool though. i'm just looking for something beginner friendly
20:42.51hjkTheir projects are very scattered among different groups though so I'm not sure where to even go for first contact.
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20:43.27regentjust try everything
20:43.54hjkIs it okay to use development mailing lists?
20:44.01hjkFor the specific projects.
20:44.30regentWhy don't you try directly emailing the mentor?
20:44.59regentI think the mailing lists should also be fine
20:45.07ollythat rather depends on the org - some use their general lists for gsoc, some set up special lists
20:45.13ollybut what's wrong with their google group list?
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20:45.26ollythat's listed as "contact email"
20:45.40hjkWell, that list is for the HSF org.
20:45.59hjkWhich is only like a metagroup;
20:46.12hjkall the projects are being run by specific groups in other orgs.
20:46.32hjkSo I'm assuming the people working on those projects won't be on thehsf list.
20:46.36hjkthe hsf*
20:46.38ollythey list it as the contact email, so they must expect it to be used more widely
20:47.38hjkOh I guess each project gets assigned its own mentor too.
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20:50.18regentSpeaking of mailing lists, where can I find the GSoC students mailing list?
20:50.22regentIs that even real
20:51.07meflinit is real and you can join it as part of your student application
20:52.39regentalright cool thank you
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20:55.19hjkAhh. Trying to filter by category on the org list page is crashing firefox.
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20:56.21Robert_Shjk: just using the pulldown?
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20:56.46hjkNo it's when I tab away from it.
20:57.14hjkAssuming something in the onblur is firing the crash.
20:57.17Robert_Shjk: I can't seem to replicate it.
20:57.30hjkWhich FF?
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20:58.01Robert_S51.0.1
20:58.13hjkHm same.
20:58.23hjkDid you tab out with the keyboard?
20:58.47Robert_SYeah, I typed python and hit tab.
20:59.07hjkAhh, not the search box.
20:59.22hjkThe list of categories right after it.
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21:00.09Robert_Stell me exactly what you're doing from a clean page.  i.e. when you use the mouse, when you don't, etc.
21:01.26hjkOkay.
21:01.30hjkSo from the org list page.
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21:01.41hjkTabbing to the organization status field.
21:02.06hjkarrow down to cloud
21:02.16hjktab again to the org list
21:02.21hjkwait for crash
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21:03.02Robert_SStill can't replicate it.
21:03.19ollycould be related to the add-ons in use
21:03.21Robert_SThere is a minor issue that you can't see when the category field is focused.
21:03.29Robert_SBut I can't make it crash.
21:03.50hjkHm might be an issue with my screen reader then.
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21:04.39Robert_SSeems like a good theory.   That's a standard Angular Material widget, nothing magical about it.
21:04.58Robert_SHopefully the site is pretty usable with your screen reader, that was a goal.  We've got a lot of aria attributes in place.
21:06.00hjkYeah everything else is surprisingly good.
21:06.22Robert_SHappy to hear that.  It was a design goal/requirement, but one that's hard for us to validate.
21:06.41hjkI can imagine yeah.
21:06.54hjkThe effort is much appreciated, at any rate.
21:06.58hjksmiles
21:07.03Robert_S:)
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21:22.30kushalsingh007Just wanted to make sure, the limit is still 2 times right ?
21:22.40Robert_SYes.
21:22.46kushalsingh007:(
21:23.18kushalsingh007Every year all the projects look so much fun
21:23.46jn__kushalsingh007: i think you need to become a mentor
21:24.07kushalsingh007I guess it's a little late for that this year ?
21:24.22jn__true
21:24.39kushalsingh007Well, there's always a next year :")
21:25.25Robert_SIt's unlikely to change.  Summer of Code is to bring new people in to the open source community.  If you've participated twice, consider leveraging that into a job or internship with a company.
21:26.08meflinor being a mentor
21:26.39Fresokushalsingh007: If you're still involved with the org.s you were a student with, maybe you can be a mentor with them.
21:26.49FresoMentors aren't finally assigned for some time yet.
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21:27.12kushalsingh007Ah, sweet :D . When is the deadline for that
21:28.09kushalsingh007Freso: What's the deadline for mentor allocations
21:28.29Fresokushalsingh007: Talk with the org. you're involved with.
21:28.41FresoIf you're not currently involved with an org., it is likely too late.
21:28.52kushalsingh007No I still am involved with them
21:29.02Freso(Mentors are usually established community members.)
21:29.22FresoThen you should talk with them in what they want from a mentor. :)
21:29.55kushalsingh007Freso : Yup, I'll just talk with them . Thanks !
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21:32.16FresoNp!
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21:48.30busterbcookthe parent company of our organization is interested in promoting that we are part of GSoC this year. Are there any rules around promotions that we should be aware of? I didn't see anything specifically spelled out.
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21:52.05Freso!support | busterbcook
21:52.05gsocbotbusterbcook: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com.
21:52.38cpgi canot seem to find the answer to this. how many slots did our organization get? I am an admin, but I cannot see this information anywhere in the dashboard
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21:53.20cpgalso, all our admins are also mentors, so it shows zero mentors, ... could that be the reason it's not showing slots?
21:53.23Fresobusterbcook: There aren't anything that I'm aware of, but I'm not in anyway associated with Google or GSoC (I'm not even a mentor/admin this year). Your best bet for double checking is most likely the support e-mail.
21:53.34Fresocpg: Slots aren't assigned until later.
21:53.35Robert_Scpg: Slots aren't assigned yet.
21:55.00cpgFreso: Robert_S: i was looking for that in the timeline, but i guess it's not showing?
21:55.19ollyit'll be a while after student applications close
21:55.31ollyso you have a chance to decide how many slots you could use
21:55.42busterbcookcheers Freso
21:55.43cpgwe're getting a fair bit of student introductions ...
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21:56.54ollycpg: if you're a first time org, you're unlikely to get much more than 2 slots
21:57.11cpgwe had three slots before
21:58.03ollythen you aren't a first time org...
21:58.49cpgok, so it looks like student applications close April 3, 2017
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21:59.30cpgi forget when slots were assigned relative to that. is that some time after that?
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22:00.22Robert_Scpg: We have too many differen timelines.  But yes, it doesn't seem to be on any of them.
22:02.26teepeeyep, showing different times is also a bit confusing ;)
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22:23.08oleg-nenashevWill be there a IRC feedback meeting for rejected orgs on this year? Just wonder about the proper feedback channels for getting feedback
22:25.16teepeeoleg-nenashev: I think that would go via support email now
22:27.27terriIt's a sensible change as there's so many orgs, but I kind of miss the feedback meeting.  was good for seeing things we could do better.
22:29.43ollydoes it not say in the rejection message?  It did in 2015 IIRC
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22:31.54sttaylorno IRC feedback meeting, we donÕt do that anymore
22:32.27sttaylorif you send an email to gsoc-support@google.com we will look at your application and our notes and give you some more feedback in the order in which we have received the requests
22:32.32sttaylorwe have a queue going now...
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22:36.11oleg-nenashevolly: Nope,  the message does not contain details
22:37.18oleg-nenashevsstaylor: Thanks, I will write the message there tomorrow. No wonder it takes time to process all such requests
22:38.03oleg-nenashevfirstly needs to respond to students
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23:49.32mash_Why would a student go for one of the harder projects? Some projects seem really easy and some of the harder ones really interesting. Is there any benifit going for he more difficult ones?
23:49.46Valodimpersonal growth?
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23:52.11ollyyou're less likely to be chosen if you propose a project which doesn't match your skills and experience (in either direction)
23:53.10jn__mash_: as you said, they are potentially more interesting
23:53.53CFS-MP3mash_ because working on easy stuff is extremely boring
23:54.52CFS-MP3I always recommend to follow the 50%-50% rule... 50% of the required work you should know how to do or at least how to approach, the other 50% you should have no idea about but we really eager to learn
23:55.46CFS-MP3GSoC is not contract work... it's not like someone pays you to fix a pipe and expect you to do it without any kind help from the home owner

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