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| 00:19.27 | *** topic/#gsoc is Google Summer of Code | 2017 Orgs Announced! https://g.co/gsoc/orgs | More info: https://g.co/gsoc/ |
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| 01:20.53 | r0bby | Powersource: Write a good proposal |
| 01:25.23 | r0bby | The student I'd choose is a student who's been active WAYYY before the window for student project proposals opened |
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| 02:36.31 | Balance | where would student work for GSoC? |
| 02:39.53 | Balance | anybody here? |
| 02:40.07 | Balance | did i ask a wrong question ï¼ |
| 02:40.11 | busterbcook | not sure I understand the question |
| 02:40.16 | busterbcook | you mean physically? |
| 02:40.24 | busterbcook | I guess where you are |
| 02:40.46 | Balance | yep physically |
| 02:40.53 | Balance | oh,i see |
| 02:41.09 | Balance | so we do online work ? |
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| 02:50.07 | busterbcook | pretty much |
| 02:50.43 | busterbcook | I would be surprised if an org required a physical relocation, given that open source projects are fairly internet-connected |
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| 03:11.46 | Balance | thanks |
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| 04:00.34 | Robert_S | terri: Only if you're an admin. |
| 04:01.15 | Robert_S | terri: glad you like the video, spread it around! |
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| 04:28.15 | sumit | many ideas are given in organization ideas page and i want to work on one of them. so, is it necessary to talk to mentors about that project idea before opening of student application? |
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| 04:51.20 | busterbcook | it sure helps in the mentor's eyes, especially since this is looking pretty competitive |
| 04:52.27 | sumit | i had send email to them but i didn't got any reply so what i should do now? |
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| 04:54.34 | busterbcook | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:57.32 | olly | sumit: how long ago did you send it? |
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| 05:05.11 | sumit | 5days and yesterday also |
| 05:05.41 | sumit | olly: 5 days before |
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| 06:51.52 | r0bby | The other thing: keep all communication public since the bulk of Open Source work happens publicly |
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| 07:23.22 | saurabhshri | "Please note that this channel is logged." Is the log publicly accessible? Would not want to re-ask a question that has previously been answered. :) |
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| 07:24.29 | gouthamve | saurabhshri: http://infobot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 07:25.30 | saurabhshri | @gouthamve Thank you. |
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| 07:38.43 | olly | Hmm log url is no longer in the topic |
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| 08:21.02 | tocttou | hello... |
| 08:21.13 | tocttou | can a gsoc mentor apply as a student to some other org next year? |
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| 08:58.30 | kblin | tocttou: I think so, provided they are a student next year |
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| 09:12.38 | sumit | rohit chd-=u\\ |
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| 09:13.16 | sumit | fuck you all bitches |
| 09:13.26 | sumit | i suck dicks |
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| 09:21.09 | sumit | versions |
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| 09:36.34 | Jarwin | Hello |
| 09:36.46 | panzone_ | hi Jarwin |
| 09:37.14 | Jarwin | What is the format in which we have to submit the applications to orginizations? (1/2) |
| 09:37.29 | Jarwin | Can we go for more than one orginizations? (2/) |
| 09:37.35 | Jarwin | *(2/2) |
| 09:37.47 | panzone_ | Jarwin: we'll see next week, last year was a pdf if I remember correctly |
| 09:38.19 | panzone_ | you can do more than one proposal, however I don't suggest it. |
| 09:38.36 | Jarwin | panzone_: Umm, I was talking about the structure of the document. |
| 09:39.01 | Jarwin | panzone: why is it not recommended to not opt for more than one orginizations? |
| 09:39.32 | panzone_ | there isn't a precise structure: some orgs present a template, so look if the one you want to apply provides one |
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| 09:43.09 | panzone_ | because it's better to concentrate on one (maybe two if you're sure) single good proposal. remember that every proposal you send means more work and time to follow it |
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| 09:52.09 | olly | panzone_: it's PDFs (with google docs suggested) like last year |
| 09:52.22 | panzone_ | thanks olly |
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| 10:28.47 | achillion | !irc |
| 10:29.18 | achillion | Is there a general IRC etiquette guide you like to link to? |
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| 10:30.37 | kblin | achillion: uhm, not really, but let me find one I like |
| 10:32.18 | kblin | achillion: https://github.com/fizerkhan/irc-etiquette is reasonable on skimming it |
| 10:32.46 | achillion | kblin: yeah, on first skim that seems perfect, thanks! |
| 10:34.43 | kblin | in fact, let's just keep it |
| 10:35.20 | kblin | !learn irc as Check out this useful IRC etiquette guide on getting the most out of your IRC experience: https://github.com/fizerkhan/irc-etiquette |
| 10:35.21 | gsocbot | kblin: "irc" is Check out this useful IRC etiquette guide on getting the most out of your IRC experience: https://github.com/fizerkhan/irc-etiquette |
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| 10:36.24 | achillion | neat :) |
| 10:36.46 | kblin | achillion: thanks for bringing this up |
| 10:37.24 | kblin | "IRC is often like human interaction without all the friendly bits." |
| 10:37.34 | kblin | I like this guide, it's spot on |
| 10:37.46 | gevaerts | Wait, human interaction has friendly bits? |
| 10:38.15 | kblin | In Europe, probably.... |
| 10:38.42 | kblin | I think they call it "le BigFriendly" there |
| 10:39.13 | kblin | checks off "paraphrased pulp fiction" off his todo list for the day |
| 10:40.17 | gevaerts | only has two niggles about that document |
| 10:41.59 | gevaerts | "frenchmen" instead of "french speakers", which totally ignores women from Quebec!, and I'd say one or two sentences on *why* "don't ask to ask" is a thing would be useful |
| 10:41.59 | kblin | hm? |
| 10:42.14 | gevaerts | now has to make a pull request :) |
| 10:42.23 | kblin | I was about to say :)\ |
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| 10:43.36 | olly | gevaerts: don't ask why it's don't ask to ask |
| 10:43.58 | gevaerts | olly: exactly! |
| 10:44.23 | gevaerts | It seems like an extremely arbitrary and weird rule at first sight |
| 10:45.51 | olly | i guess the main reason is it "adds an extra exchange to the protocol" which is unhelpful when it can be hours between responses on either side |
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| 10:47.51 | gevaerts | The reason *I* don't like it is really that nobody can actually answer. I can't say "yes" to "Can anyone help me?" if I don't know what the problem is |
| 10:48.26 | kblin | yeah, I have this in an internal channel, where someone who is on US pacific time likes to start his conversations with me with just a "ping?" |
| 10:48.55 | kblin | adds an extra day of round-trip time to everything |
| 10:49.01 | gevaerts | Oh, yes. Contextless pings can waste a lot of time... |
| 10:49.52 | kblin | but to be fair, "Can I ask you a question?" even in face-to-face conversations prompts me to reply with "You already did" |
| 10:50.55 | kblin | but yes, adding an explanation to that section is a good idea |
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| 14:06.17 | eisha | Hello, I have a little question: my mother tongue is french and I also speak english. In the "Primary language" section of an application, am I supposed to put "french" or "french and english" ? Regards |
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| 15:40.24 | fysal | hi,i want to ask about fossi foundation, and details about GPIO SWITCHBOX? |
| 15:41.12 | meflin | you should get in contact with the org |
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| 16:13.37 | ishan1604 | Guys I am doing a Live AMA on Facebook about questions that students have regarding GSOC. |
| 16:13.46 | ishan1604 | I'll go live in about 15 minutes |
| 16:14.20 | prakhar123 | ishan1604:please post the link |
| 16:14.21 | ishan1604 | from this page https://www.facebook.com/hellomeets/ |
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| 16:58.21 | prestavious | hi. can i participate in gsoc while having a part-time work? (assuming the org is OK with that) |
| 16:58.33 | prestavious | or is there a rule that explictly prohibit that? |
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| 17:06.47 | smsunarto | prestavious: as long you are a uni student and you are able to commit, I'm pretty sure it's perfectly fine. |
| 17:08.37 | smsunarto | The problem would be whether or not you can handle the workload or not. Knowing that there will be deadlines and all |
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| 17:13.58 | prestavious | smsunarto: yeah i understand, thanks for the reply |
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| 18:01.40 | maxyodedara5 | If more than one student is opting for the same idea in the idea list of organisations are the students competing against each other ? |
| 18:04.25 | achillion | I guess... unless you want to try to get two people on the same project for some reason? |
| 18:05.15 | achillion | well, same software, different project, different tasks. that's possible, right? |
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| 18:21.06 | maxyodedara5 | I was wondering the same thing, what if two people are working on the same idea but work side by side with same mentor |
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| 18:22.00 | terri | maxyodedara5: we've occasionally split an idea into two distinct parts to do this, but we usually add an extra mentor or two to avoid mentor burnout unless the mentor has a boatload of time for some reason. |
| 18:22.31 | terri | the rules say you can't work on the same thing in a way that one student's work could block another student's work, so the dividing up has to be done carefully |
| 18:23.47 | maxyodedara5 | So the students are they competing against each other or it all depends on organization if they want to divide the idea between the students |
| 18:24.12 | gevaerts | recommends not worrying too much about competition and spending energy on making the best possible proposal instead |
| 18:25.14 | maxyodedara5 | Recommendation noted ð
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| 18:27.00 | terri | Another option is that when mentors know they've got more than one of their top students interested in the same idea and they don't think it can be divided, sometimes they'll encourage some people to also consider other ideas. So pay attention to the hints you get from mentors. ;) |
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| 18:28.14 | Psa | I had a few questions about gsoc's hdmi2usb project? |
| 18:28.31 | meflin | you should ask the org who's idea that is |
| 18:28.57 | Psa | Ok. Thanks for the time |
| 18:29.12 | achillion | good talk |
| 18:30.44 | achillion | terri: Good point on the blocking. Multiple people on the same project is nice and all, collaboration and all that, but if one of them disappears or ends up underperforming, it's a shame to waste the other one's time. |
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| 22:23.05 | pombreda | I could not find anywhere this info: can I allow a student to modify its proposal once submitted and at least before the April 3r date? |
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| 22:26.57 | terri | pombreda: In previous years, the default was that all students could edit submissions until the student application deadline. |
| 22:27.17 | terri | I'd be surprised if that changed, since it's pretty typical for students to get feedback during the submission period |
| 22:27.45 | terri | So yes, I would expect that proposals will be editable until the April 3rd deadline |
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| 22:34.41 | pombreda | terri: thx |
| 22:34.56 | pombreda | forgot all about the previous years :P |
| 22:35.10 | pombreda | that was like at least a year ago. eons |
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| 22:57.55 | thecarterb | Is it possible for a high school student to participate? |
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| 23:01.01 | achillion | no |
| 23:01.12 | achillion | I mean |
| 23:01.22 | achillion | what's the absolute basic eligibility criteria? |
| 23:02.03 | olly | technically you could still be at high school, but you'd need to be at least 18 and accepted into a university |
| 23:02.28 | achillion | olly: being accepted counts..? |
| 23:02.29 | achillion | interesting |
| 23:02.32 | olly | thecarterb: if you're under 18, google run GCI for high school students |
| 23:02.48 | olly | achillion: unless things have changed |
| 23:03.22 | olly | last time i looked it said something about "fall term", so not sure what happens if you're in the southern hemisphere... |
| 23:03.26 | terri | The FAQ says 18: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq#what_are_the_eligibility_requirements_for_participation |
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| 23:04.15 | terri | The acceptance date for this year is May 4th, incidentally, so that's the cutoff date for eligibility too |
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