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| 04:07.55 | duke_ | hi,i am new to gsoc and i dont have any idea about how to starting with any proposal.please help me |
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| 04:11.43 | duke_ | thanks @hiro98...i will go through it |
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| 04:31.07 | asdf__ | hi! is there who knows when is the exact start date of GSoC? |
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| 04:35.21 | olly | !timeline | asdf__ |
| 04:35.21 | gsocbot | asdf__: "timeline" is (#1) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline, or (#2) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/timeline |
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| 04:50.27 | asdf__ | I read this - 'I should have work permit of the country in which I'll reside throughout the duration of the program' |
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| 04:50.46 | asdf__ | I am currently not in my home country |
| 04:51.04 | asdf__ | but I can go back to my home country where I can work legally full time. |
| 04:51.23 | asdf__ | If the duration of the program starts after mid may |
| 04:51.36 | asdf__ | thats why I asked about the start date @gsocbot |
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| 04:54.44 | olly | asdf__: the timeline has all the relevant dates on it |
| 04:55.45 | asdf__ | could you please tell me what's the exact date from which we need work permit in the country of residence? @olly |
| 04:56.46 | olly | not sure I'm entirely qualified to offer advice on work permits for unspecified countries |
| 04:58.03 | olly | but the part you actually get paid for is the coding period |
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| 05:22.43 | Sp_ | Hi...i have an doubt that what exactly do we have to submit in our project report. |
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| 08:36.07 | naveen17797 | should i need to add my initial in my first name, but my proof of enrollment consists my first name with initial |
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| 08:40.33 | Anthony93 | if I apply as a student for 2 different organization's projects and I get choosen by both of them, what happen? I get both acceptance and then I must choose one? |
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| 08:56.48 | amahdy | Hey there, I hope this is the right channel to ask this. My organization got rejected for the third time and we are wondering what we can change to get accepted. We have made a lot of effort and time to get ready for the progream this year and still got rejected with no explanation on what we are doing wrong. It can be a good help to give us some guidance on what to do, or to tell us not to put effort in this anymore. |
| 08:58.07 | amahdy | I really dont have any justification for my team on wheather we should try again next year. Right now it's just a wasted efforts. |
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| 09:08.40 | Vali_ | Hi Everyone, I have a question about Gsoc, If i'm not a student i can't apply for this ? |
| 09:08.49 | Vali_ | What should i do in order to be part of this ? |
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| 09:10.39 | olly | Vali_: you need to be a student |
| 09:11.51 | olly | amahdy: email support for feedback on unsuccessful org applications |
| 09:12.06 | olly | !support |
| 09:12.06 | gsocbot | olly: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 09:12.49 | amahdy | @olly: thanks |
| 09:13.28 | Vali_ | olly : Thanks . I'm looking for alternatives if any possibility. |
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| 09:18.37 | olly | Vali_: you can just get involved with an open source project - many would welcome new contributors |
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| 12:30.38 | BigOChief | I have a doubt.The deadline for registering and submitting the proposal is 3rd April.But what was the deadline on 20th March |
| 12:31.00 | BigOChief | ? |
| 12:31.55 | moongazer | BigOChief, it was the beginning of proposal submission. 27th Feb to 20th March was discussion of ideas with your mentor |
| 12:32.53 | gevaerts | (which should still happen now) |
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| 12:38.28 | moongazer | Yes |
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| 12:59.46 | Arkadiy | Hi everybody! Can anybody please review whether my Proof of Enrollment for GSOC is correct? Thanks! |
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| 13:02.31 | gevaerts | Arkadiy: did you read https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/proof-of-enrollment ? |
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| 13:05.09 | Arkadiy | Yes, of course. I have scanned my student card, it has photo, signings and university stamps, but it's in Russian, so I've translated it by myself, and also scanned a translated version written by hand. Is it ok ? |
| 13:09.48 | MatthewWilkes | Arkadiy: Does that include the bit that says translating yourself is fine, and the bit that says if you're unsure you shouldn't ask in IRC? |
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| 13:16.35 | Arkadiy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:19.17 | gevaerts | Arkadiy: so you missed the paragraph that says "If you have questions about whether your document is acceptable, don't ask on IRC or on public mailing lists, just upload it to the site. If it is not acceptable, we will ask you to upload a different document within a specified time frame. You will receive an email when your form has been approved"? |
| 13:22.02 | Arkadiy | Oh, sorry for reading not carefully enough. I have thought that if the document isn't accepted once I wouldn't have any chance to upload an updated version. Thank you for clarifying it! |
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| 13:25.34 | boro | can a student apply to multiple projects of same organisation? |
| 13:27.10 | gouthamve | boro: Yes |
| 13:27.37 | gevaerts | Although it can be useful to discuss this with the organisation first |
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| 13:34.22 | gaurav__ | Hi! I am new here. Can someone help me to know about the proposals in GSOC |
| 13:34.26 | gaurav__ | ? |
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| 14:10.29 | FleetAdmiral[m] | Hey guys! If we submit multiplt proposals, do the organizations come to know that we've applied to other orgs too? As in how would the selection proceed form then on? Hope i'm not asking for too much, thanks :) |
| 14:11.15 | BigOChief | moongazer:Thanks! |
| 14:11.53 | moongazer | FleetAdmiral[m], don't worry about all that |
| 14:12.05 | moongazer | BigOChief, huh? |
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| 14:14.23 | FleetAdmiral[m] | moongazer: Alright, i was just wondering whether there could be a bias towards students who apply to multiple orgs, like in case an org thinks it would take someone else's opportunity if they selected someone who's applied to other orgs and is likely to get into them anyways? But alright, i'll put that aside, thanks :) |
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| 14:16.18 | gevaerts | FleetAdmiral[m]: orgs don't see that sort of thing. I believe these days choosing is handled by having the first org who actually selects the student win |
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| 14:16.49 | gevaerts | In earlier gsocs there was actual discussion between organisations, but that's not the case any more |
| 14:17.13 | gevaerts | Anyway, students getting selected by more than one organisation is probably less common than you might thing |
| 14:17.16 | gevaerts | *think |
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| 14:18.00 | AnimeLife | Hello everyone, I am a CS student who is interested in gsoc. I have one question do I have to reach origanization's community before submitting a proposal, or can I on basis of my understanding of their project ideas? |
| 14:18.41 | BigOChief | moongazer:Thank you for the info |
| 14:19.39 | moongazer | BigOChief, I don't remember what I told you |
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| 14:19.50 | FleetAdmiral[m] | gevaerts: Thank you :D |
| 14:19.58 | moongazer | BigOChief, Ah I see |
| 14:21.33 | gevaerts | AnimeLife: you'll probably make a better impression (and thus increase your chances) if you talk to them first |
| 14:21.54 | gevaerts | That will also give you a chance to understand the problem better |
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| 14:23.13 | AnimeLife | Then I would contact them first. Thank you gevaerts. |
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| 14:37.27 | AnimeLife | sry |
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| 14:38.36 | AnimeLife | :$ |
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| 15:38.22 | Freso | ma08: You'll have to ask the org. you're applying with about that. |
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| 16:16.43 | ma08 | Freso: okay, thanks |
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| 18:19.33 | gopipooh | When registering for GSoC on https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com , the name is asked as First Name, Last Name. But I have a middle name too. Since it is mentioned that the name should match the name on enrollment form from accredited institute, how do I fill my complete name in registration portal? |
| 18:22.05 | meflin | I belive that does match ... if you have questions about the form stuff |
| 18:22.08 | meflin | !support |
| 18:22.08 | gsocbot | meflin: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 18:24.59 | gopipooh | @meflin: I didn't get you. Could you please explain! |
| 18:25.29 | Robert_S | You can either add your middle name to your first name, or leave it out. |
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| 18:50.09 | gsdev | hi |
| 18:50.46 | gsdev | is anyone here? |
| 18:50.55 | panzone | hi gsdev |
| 18:51.38 | gsdev | hey fanzine! I haven't been on free node in a while. how do I see the sidebar with list of members here? |
| 18:51.42 | gsdev | panzone* |
| 18:52.04 | panzone | that depends on your client |
| 18:52.15 | gsdev | web |
| 18:52.38 | panzone | never used so I don't know, sorry |
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| 18:54.35 | gsdev | panzone that's fine, thanks |
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| 19:09.17 | gsdev | I uploaded an enrollment certificate for my proof of enrollment. If I'm chosen by an organization and Google doesn't find my enrollment proof valid, will they just make me resubmit another form or would I be disqualified from GSOC? |
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| 19:10.12 | gevaerts | If only https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/proof-of-enrollment mentioned this! |
| 19:12.19 | gsdev | @gevaerts not sure if you're being sarcastic. it does show valid forms of enrollment, but it does not say what happens if I'm rejected due to Google finding it invalid. |
| 19:12.46 | gevaerts | "If you have questions about whether your document is acceptable, don't ask on IRC or on public mailing lists, just upload it to the site. If it is not acceptable, we will ask you to upload a different document within a specified time frame. You will receive an email when your form has been approved." |
| 19:13.51 | gsdev | @gevaerts sorry, I missed this. Thanks! :) |
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| 19:15.09 | gsdev | aaand I just noticed my Proposal Summary page says "Your Proof of Enrollment has been uploaded and will be reviewed after April 3, 2017. You will receive an email once it has been accepted or rejected.". lol, it's a little early for me! |
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| 19:42.46 | gopipooh | !support |
| 19:42.46 | gsocbot | gopipooh: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 19:43.14 | meflin | did you have a question gopipooh? |
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| 19:48.42 | gsdev | wow, stipend went up to $6,000. that's more than I remember it being when I applied years ago! |
| 19:48.49 | gsdev | not that I'm doing it for the money, but that's awesome |
| 19:49.09 | meflin | depends on your country |
| 19:49.54 | gsdev | yeah, they're doing it on a PPP based calculation. https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/student-stipends if anyone is wondering |
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| 19:51.39 | gsdev | anyone here only taken an intro to computer science program, but still participating? I figured all I can really do is web programming type projects, because the other projects are out of my scope of knowledge |
| 19:52.15 | panzone | gsdev: I'm starting a phd in computer science and I don't know anything about web development :) |
| 19:52.56 | gsdev | @panzone nice |
| 19:53.30 | panzone | there always be projects outside our current skillset, but that' s a good thing since this way you can find something you can help on |
| 19:53.38 | ma08 | web developers need more love :) thankless task it is |
| 19:55.05 | panzone | so don't worry if you can do "only" webdev, it's more than enough to participate and to help an open source project |
| 19:56.56 | gsdev | good point, yeah I'm still new to computer science but I hope to be able to understand and contribute more once I'm done with my program. right now everything is so foreign to me lol. |
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| 20:00.46 | panzone | gsdev: don't worry, it's normal to feel a little overwhelmed at first |
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| 20:52.33 | gsdev | I wish there was a way to check how many slots each organization/sub-organizations have |
| 20:52.53 | PulkoMandy | we don't know yet |
| 20:53.04 | gsdev | ah ok |
| 20:53.07 | PulkoMandy | organizations request slots once they know how many good student applications they have |
| 20:53.28 | gsdev | ok, thanks! |
| 20:54.14 | gsdev | all the sub-orgs under Python are guaranteed at least 1 slot right? |
| 20:55.04 | meflin | gsdev: no |
| 20:55.43 | meflin | its rare but it has happened that a sub requested of us (python) 0 slots |
| 20:57.22 | valorie | no point in requesting a slot when you don't have good applicants |
| 20:57.29 | meflin | as a student you shouldn't worry about that ... you should be so awesome we have to accept you |
| 20:57.36 | olly | gsdev: the slots are largely driven by how many good applications an org or sub-org has |
| 20:59.29 | gsdev | ok, thanks Valorie, Merlin, Olly. i was thinking of making a proposal for a sub-org which I thought would have had better chances of being accepted, but I guess if I can make a decent proposal anywhere I still have a chance. |
| 20:59.40 | valorie | yes |
| 20:59.52 | valorie | you should propose something you are excited to do |
| 21:00.07 | valorie | that will carry you through the hard, boring parts |
| 21:00.21 | valorie | because there are always hard, boring parts |
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| 21:00.23 | olly | probably the main thing to be aware of as a student is that first time orgs are typically limited to two slots, so if you're applying to a first time org that seems popular, a second proposal to a different org might be wise |
| 21:00.54 | panzone | gsdev: however, you shouldn't prepare too many proposals |
| 21:00.55 | gsdev | good advice Valorie, that's definitely what I'll be doing |
| 21:01.07 | gsdev | ok, thanks olly |
| 21:01.22 | gsdev | panzone, yeah I'll focus on one or two decent proposals |
| 21:01.48 | panzone | gsdev: good |
| 21:01.55 | valorie | sounds good |
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| 21:05.41 | gouthamve | olly: Wait, what about first time Umbrella orgs with multiple sub-projects? Even those will get lower number of slots? |
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| 21:06.30 | meflin | gouthamve: yes |
| 21:07.12 | gouthamve | Like 2-3 slots? Even with 5-6 projects under it? Damn! |
| 21:07.40 | meflin | new umbrella's probably do not have that many subs |
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| 21:08.04 | gouthamve | CNCF is adding projects on a weekly basis :P |
| 21:08.13 | meflin | projects are not subs |
| 21:08.19 | meflin | gouthamve: student? |
| 21:10.29 | gouthamve | Yep, am a student. Projects as in orgs. 2 more projects (or orgs) were incubated in CNCF after the announcement of the orgs :) Just curious. |
| 21:10.43 | meflin | projects are not sub-orgs |
| 21:10.55 | meflin | students need not worry about such things |
| 21:12.24 | gouthamve | Hmm, cool, was just curious. Aiming to be awesome so that I get selected ;) But they are sub-orgs, like gRPC and CoreDNS. |
| 21:13.26 | meflin | the only thing students need to worry about is being awsome |
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| 21:40.14 | terri | gouthamve: it's not that abnormal for sub-orgs who didn't get in to partner with a larger umbrella org after selection. People are nervous that if they admit to being willing to be a sub-org, it'll hurt their chances, so they say nothing until selection is done. |
| 21:42.21 | terri | Nothing sinister about it, just people being cautious :) |
| 21:42.38 | gouthamve | terri: Oh no! This has nothing to with GSoC. CNCF is a new foundation that is currently in the process of adding new projects under its name. Just happened that CNCF is in GSoC.... |
| 21:44.17 | gsdev | not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but Wikipedia seemed to have way more slots when I checked years ago. last year they had much less slots! (I guess that was to give lesser known organizations more opportunities) |
| 21:44.50 | meflin | gsdev: or they asked for less |
| 21:45.08 | meflin | once again students should not worry about slots |
| 21:45.37 | gsdev | or that too. yeah, we should just focus on making a decent proposal and giving it our best shot. |
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| 22:06.12 | Robert_S | And remember you can always work with these orgs outside of GSoC. |
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| 22:22.10 | valorie | Robert_S: amen to that! |
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| 22:43.23 | MatthewWilkes | The Italian Mars Society is a damn cool name for an org. |
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| 22:51.35 | minifridge6 | hi everyone, i am wondering is it to late to contact a mentor for submitting a proposal? |
| 22:51.56 | meflin | no its not get involved now |
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| 22:53.09 | minifridge6 | phew, great. are you a student? |
| 22:53.35 | meflin | no |
| 22:53.42 | valorie | meflin is a student of human nature |
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| 22:53.59 | valorie | as am I |
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| 23:02.31 | minifridge6 | haha, so he is student! do you believe i should focus in one proposal with this timeframe? my time is limited right now because i am doing my mandatory military service right now. |
| 23:03.10 | olly | probably - a good proposal takes time |
| 23:03.16 | minifridge6 | i can work on my proposal for 4-5 hours per day |
| 23:04.06 | olly | and most orgs expect a patch or similar contribution to demonstrate your skills |
| 23:05.21 | minifridge6 | like picking an issue from their github repo and fix it |
| 23:05.23 | minifridge6 | ? |
| 23:05.47 | minifridge6 | or they should assign me something? |
| 23:07.07 | olly | fixing an issue from the bug tracker is likely to be good, though some bug trackers just end up full of the harder to solve issues. Some orgs have an explicit list of suitable tickets, or some task like patching the application to add a message somewhere and taking a screenshot |
| 23:07.25 | olly | i'd talk to the org to find out if they have particular expectations |
| 23:07.55 | olly | but even if they don't ask for a patch, submitting a decent patch is going to make you stand out from applicants who don't |
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| 23:13.32 | minifridge6 | thanks for the advice |
| 23:18.30 | olly | MatthewWilkes: see also http://totl.net/VisibleMars/ for British Mars and American Mars |
| 23:21.05 | MatthewWilkes | Oh, you! |
| 23:22.07 | MatthewWilkes | Hm, there's no review of the three musketeers bar on that page. Horribly incomplete. |
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