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| 03:44.31 | o0o0o | can a postdoc apply for GSoC as a student? |
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| 03:56.52 | valorie | o0o0o: read the rules |
| 03:56.56 | valorie | !faq |
| 03:56.56 | gsocbot | valorie: "faq" is https://g.co/gsoc/faq |
| 03:57.22 | valorie | if you are enrolled, yes |
| 04:00.47 | o0o0o | valorie: great. I only found that doctorate students could apply. I found nothing for postdoc |
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| 04:01.40 | valorie | !support |
| 04:01.40 | gsocbot | valorie: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 04:01.45 | olly | hmm, i'd have thought post docs didn't count as students |
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| 04:02.23 | valorie | I dunno, I would think that enrollment would be the decision point |
| 04:02.38 | valorie | but I'm not staff, so I would write for a ruling |
| 04:03.13 | olly | i'd also wonder if a post doc would have time for 3 months of full-time work |
| 04:03.52 | valorie | sure |
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| 07:03.02 | o0o0o | !services |
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| 07:04.34 | gsocbot | o0o0o: change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, search, unlock, and whatis |
| 07:05.13 | o0o0o | !info |
| 07:05.13 | gsocbot | o0o0o: (info [<channel>] <key>) -- Gives information about the factoid(s) associated with <key>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
| 07:05.48 | o0o0o | !search |
| 07:05.48 | gsocbot | o0o0o: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables. |
| 07:06.00 | o0o0o | !random |
| 07:06.00 | gsocbot | o0o0o: "package": we need your shipment info by april 28th to start processing packages; packages should arrive to people by May 22nd; "email": try !emails instead; "edit": Students can edit proposals up until the application deadline. Mentors can allow students to edit proposals on a case-by-case basis after the deadline. Note that comments on proposals can _not_ be edited after (1 more message) |
| 07:06.35 | o0o0o | !more |
| 07:06.35 | gsocbot | o0o0o: submitting. |
| 07:06.56 | o0o0o | !random |
| 07:06.56 | gsocbot | o0o0o: "later": when; "media": https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/resources/media; "ice tea": cold, not hot. |
| 07:07.05 | o0o0o | !random |
| 07:07.05 | gsocbot | o0o0o: "shirtsize": http://americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=mu.shirts; "botabuse": If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel; "forms": http://goo.gl/cJ2gJ and http://goo.gl/1vBZd |
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| 07:11.34 | valorie | o0o0o: did you read the part about botabuse? |
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| 07:37.14 | o0o0o | valorie: thanks. I read it now. |
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| 08:41.14 | saturn__ | hello! I nned some help |
| 08:41.50 | saturn__ | http://write.flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/writing-a-proposal/ is this a recommendations or required? |
| 08:42.06 | saturn__ | It's strange to write my own phone number and friend's |
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| 08:54.44 | panzone | saturn__: can you be a little more specific? |
| 08:57.21 | saturn__ | "Name and Contact Information Putting your full name on the proposal is not enough. Provide full contact information, including email addresses, websites, IRC nick, postal address and telephone number. Also provide full contact information for a friend or relative that the organization can contact to find you in case of emergency." |
| 08:57.36 | saturn__ | Is it really necessary for proposal? |
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| 10:12.38 | olly | saturn__: it's certainly helpful to have a way to check you're OK if we can't contact you by email |
| 10:15.02 | saturn__ | If I can't answer on email... It is probably means I can't answer by phone. Because with phone I can ask anyone to write a message. Or contacted via github |
| 10:15.07 | saturn__ | I just want to undestand |
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| 10:21.36 | pq | saturn__, how about thinking this: if you get hit by a car and need to stay in a hospital, how can the org reach you or someone else to hear about it? |
| 10:26.28 | olly | Indeed |
| 10:27.46 | saturn__ | As I said. If I have an access to phone - I can answer via email or github. Or ask someone to do it for me. if I don't have access to phone - no one can use it. |
| 10:29.09 | olly | I'd say providing everything on that list is rather over the top but a way to contact someone else if you aren't responding is important |
| 10:30.09 | olly | We don't want to be worrying how you are with no way to find out |
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| 10:30.47 | olly | saturn__: so that's why the phone number of a friend or relative is useful |
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| 10:32.49 | saturn__ | But why phone number? Not all people on a world speaks English. |
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| 10:33.27 | saturn__ | Email is rather better |
| 10:33.44 | pq | as long as you have *something* |
| 10:34.40 | olly | Chances are I can find someone I know who can speak the right language |
| 10:35.45 | olly | wonders why it is a problem to give a number - it's not like we're going to be selling it to telemarketers or anything |
| 10:36.39 | olly | But give whatever backup contact you're happy with |
| 10:36.55 | olly | And the organization can decide if they want something more |
| 10:37.30 | saturn__ | 1) useless. Not everyone speaks(!) and hear(!) English well. As a mentor 2) it is very expensive 3) Someone can sleep at the moment |
| 10:40.41 | saturn__ | So I'm not right? It's not military projects with nuclear bombs:) Why it is not possible to wait *a day* for answer? |
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| 10:50.23 | Freso | saturn__: What if it's 2 days? 1 week? 2 weeks? 4 weeks? |
| 10:50.28 | pq | saturn__, please read what we are writing here. The important point to have primary and backup communication channels, and also a backup contact person in case you fall into a coma or something. |
| 10:51.05 | Freso | saturn__: What if you're hit by a bus and you are unable to reply to phone/e-mail/GitHub/anything at all. |
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| 10:52.48 | saturn__ | That what I'm talking about. What is the sense from my phone number? And what is the sence from friend's phone number who can't understand anything by phone? But he can answer by email |
| 10:53.56 | Freso | saturn__: 11:36:40 O<olly> But give whatever backup contact you're happy with |
| 10:54.45 | Freso | And unless they speak something *very* obscure, most org.s should be able to find someone who can communicate in the language. (Heck, I'm sure some org.s even doesn't have English as their primary language.) |
| 10:55.26 | saturn__ | Proposal to make happy organizations, not me:) |
| 10:55.30 | pq | saturn__, no-one here has said that you must put phone numbers there. |
| 10:56.24 | saturn__ | I don't think so. just read it: http://write.flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/writing-a-proposal/ Provide full contact information, including .... postal address and telephone number. |
| 10:56.38 | saturn__ | and postal address. WOW |
| 10:56.56 | Freso | You will need to provide the postal address to Google anyway. |
| 10:57.14 | ma08 | are the guidelines given in the manual strictly enforced, I thought it was upto the organizations to go through the proposals and accept/reject. Most orgs have their own guidelines right? |
| 10:57.21 | saturn__ | yep. but why for organization too? |
| 10:57.40 | Freso | saturn__: Also, the student guide is a guide, not a set of rules. |
| 10:57.55 | Freso | saturn__: Ask your org.-of-choice what information they require. |
| 10:58.32 | saturn__ | My primary very small organization send me to that page. They thought it is required:) |
| 10:59.28 | Freso | If they require it, then it's required when applying with them. If they have questions about what they should require from students, they have their own communication channels to ask about that. |
| 11:01.16 | saturn__ | I started to think it's required for everyone. And even it is recomendations... Who ever needs postal address???:) |
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| 11:01.36 | saturn__ | It seems inlogical for me |
| 11:03.22 | olly | People who want to post things? |
| 11:04.42 | olly | saturn__: it isn't that the organization can't wait a day for an answer |
| 11:05.15 | olly | It's that if we don't hear from you for an extended period we want to be able to check how you are |
| 11:05.38 | saturn__ | yep I get it |
| 11:06.17 | Freso | saturn__: Some organisations will send gifts to their students, like stickers or maybe their own t-shirts. They will need a postal address for that. |
| 11:07.18 | olly | Having been in this situation in the past without an emergency contact I can say it's quite distressing |
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| 14:11.45 | yashdsaraf | aditya_369: Yes aditya you can apply as many times you wany, but you can't be selected in GSoC more than 2 times |
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| 14:18.10 | aditya | thanks |
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| 14:40.14 | rishabh20 | how much time does it take for review of Proof of Enrollment ?? |
| 14:40.37 | gevaerts | Does that matter? |
| 14:40.43 | panzone | rishabh20: don't worry about that |
| 14:44.07 | rishabh20 | ok #panzone & #gevaerts I think after that only we could move to 2nd step if I'm not wrong |
| 14:46.15 | gevaerts | No |
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| 14:48.40 | gevaerts | In fact, I think they don't even begin to look at them before the application deadline |
| 14:49.07 | gevaerts | That avoids having to spend time looking at documents for students who submit a proposal at all |
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| 15:59.55 | zoer | isn't it obvious that of course you must use the name that is in the documents? |
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| 17:42.16 | rahul_world | hi everyone.. is college id sufficient for validation |
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| 17:44.05 | panzone | rahul_world: read the faqs |
| 17:45.00 | rahul_world | @panzone thanks for reply |
| 17:45.15 | panzone | !faq |
| 17:45.15 | gsocbot | panzone: "faq" is https://g.co/gsoc/faq |
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| 19:04.50 | dmidma | Hello world |
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| 19:05.38 | Slurpee | hi dmidma |
| 19:05.59 | dmidma | Hello Slurpee |
| 19:07.20 | dmidma | So basically I can ask any question related to GSOC 2017 here? |
| 19:07.43 | Freso | dmidma: More or less. |
| 19:07.49 | Freso | !ask |
| 19:07.49 | gsocbot | Freso: "ask" is Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 19:08.05 | blast007 | if it's a question about a specific organization, it's generally best to ask the specific org |
| 19:08.30 | dmidma | To be honest I am still looking through all of this. |
| 19:09.00 | dmidma | Bit overwhelmed and don't know if I have what it takes to be with you :/ |
| 19:09.18 | blast007 | the student guide and FAQ have good information |
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| 19:10.17 | Slurpee | dmidma, what type of coding do you enjoy? Do you know a specific language better than others? Are you into gaming? Are you into building applications? Web? |
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| 19:14.35 | dmidma | @Slurpee: Thank you for your questions =D I love Java, C and Javascript; I do love gaming, and I do love building applications. For the web part I did a lot of native coding no framework just [HTML, CSS, JS, PHP] |
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| 19:17.43 | Slurpee | dmidma, search orgs by these types of keywords? https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/?sp-search=game https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/?sp-search=web https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/?sp-search=java |
| 19:21.46 | dmidma | Thank you Slurpee =) I will try to find my way through this awesomeness. |
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| 19:59.11 | terri | Robert_S: hey, is there any chance we could be allowed a few more project tags? We hit the point of more than 10 sub-orgs and the ones who signed up later are feeling left out of the tag love. ;) |
| 20:00.13 | terri | Robert_S: I know we asked last year and it's fine if the answer is still no, but I figure it's worth letting you know that it's still an issue! |
| 20:03.43 | Robert_S | terri: Um. |
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