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| 00:03.34 | olivierb | Wondering how this works. Suppose we request X number of slots, and only X minus 2 is allocated. Who decides which of the X students/proposals will be accepted? Google? Org? Both? |
| 00:04.16 | olly | the org does |
| 00:04.38 | olivierb | cool thanks! |
| 00:05.06 | olly | google don't really have a useful basis to choose students on |
| 00:11.03 | olivierb | yeah, I figured ... But was wondering the point (if any) of submitting more proposals than slots we can reasonably expect, and make sure we can still choose after. Seems there's nothing wrong with that |
| 00:11.45 | olly | not sure I follow, the org doesn't submit proposals |
| 00:11.52 | olly | you just give google two numbers |
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| 00:25.19 | olly | they don't say a lot about how they allocate - it's possible they look at proposals, but they clearly can't read them all in detail just from thinking about the time it would take |
| 00:26.22 | olly | I don't work for them, but I think in their shoes I might look through the proposals in cases which look odd - e.g. if an org requests as many slots as they have proposals |
| 00:27.40 | olly | you haven't marked which proposals you'd select at that point though (unless the workflow is different this year) |
| 00:28.43 | olivierb | yeah makes sense |
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| 01:15.04 | valorie | wow, so many students making their drafts "view only" |
| 01:15.07 | valorie | what up with that |
| 01:16.43 | olly | valorie: only had 20% doing that so far |
| 01:17.19 | olly | IIRC Robert_S said last year that the instructions clearly direct them to enable comments |
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| 01:21.10 | valorie | I wrote to the first kid, thinking it was unusual |
| 01:21.39 | valorie | now I'm just leaving a comment that "if you want to mentor this kid, get them to open for suggestions" |
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| 01:22.03 | valorie | half of the proposals I've seen so far are unacceptable |
| 01:22.06 | valorie | :( |
| 01:22.25 | valorie | and we have about 20% of what we usually get |
| 01:22.41 | valorie | pretty shocking |
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| 01:38.11 | valorie | !support |
| 01:38.11 | gsocbot | valorie: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 01:38.50 | gsdev | grrr.. going to be pulling an all nighter to finish my proposal |
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| 01:49.42 | gsdev | I'm not seeing anywhere how much a mentor gets paid on the GSOC site. Can someone tell me? |
| 01:52.44 | valorie | for KDE, the mentors get the pleasure of working with the students |
| 01:53.12 | valorie | the money that Google sends for the mentors is used to send our delegates to the Mentor Summit |
| 01:53.39 | valorie | I guess some orgs send the money to the mentors |
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| 01:55.03 | gsdev | ok, thanks valorie! I'm not a mentor, but I was just curious. If I remember correctly, in the past it was $500 but it may have changed with student stipends going up. |
| 01:55.06 | amittbhardwj | Greetings everyone, I am in very serious problem now. I recieved email stating: Our committee has identified that you have violated Google Summer of Code Rules, in particular - section 2.4. Therefore, Systers has reported you to Google and your Google Summer of Code account will be frozen. |
| 01:55.12 | amittbhardwj | Your application to Google Summer of Code with Systers is no longer being considered. |
| 01:56.35 | gsdev | yikes! sorry amittbhardwj |
| 01:56.37 | amittbhardwj | anyone knows what should i do now? I didn't do anything wrong and so less time is remaining |
| 01:56.43 | gsdev | I just looked it up, section 2.4 is "Conduct. Participants must use professional and courteous conduct when interacting with other Participants and the Program Administrators. If a Participant does not use such conduct, Google may remove the Participant from the Program." |
| 01:56.49 | gsdev | amittbhardwj: where you misbehaving anywhere? |
| 01:56.53 | gsdev | were* |
| 01:57.07 | amittbhardwj | gsdev: nope :( |
| 01:57.39 | amittbhardwj | i did a lot of work and solved issues and now its all vain |
| 01:58.09 | gsdev | sorry, I would e-mail gsoc-support@google.com. it may have been a mistake. :/ |
| 01:58.17 | valorie | !support | amittbhardwj |
| 01:58.17 | gsocbot | amittbhardwj: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 01:58.21 | r0bby | Mentors do not get paid |
| 01:58.29 | r0bby | the org does |
| 01:58.30 | valorie | we can't help here, amittbhardwj |
| 01:59.04 | amittbhardwj | gsocbot: support? |
| 01:59.54 | valorie | if I were you, I would write to Systers first |
| 01:59.56 | r0bby | amittbhardwj: read what gsocbot wrote. |
| 02:00.09 | valorie | and gsoc support if they don't give you an answer |
| 02:00.17 | amittbhardwj | gsocbot: sorry, i was in hurry and couldn't read properly. I got it now |
| 02:00.29 | r0bby | it is a bot |
| 02:00.37 | r0bby | amittbhardwj: gsocbot isn't human |
| 02:02.10 | gsdev | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.52 | r0bby | gsdev: We also get some spectacularly bad proposals |
| 02:03.02 | r0bby | LibreHealth got an Airline Reservation System proposal |
| 02:03.13 | r0bby | and a really, realy bad proposal for it |
| 02:03.17 | olly | the email sounds suspect though - an org can't say for sure that your account will be frozen by google |
| 02:03.34 | r0bby | amittbhardwj: can you login? |
| 02:03.44 | gsdev | lol r0bby |
| 02:04.00 | r0bby | in case it's not clear, we're a health it org |
| 02:05.51 | amittbhardwj | r0bby: yes, i can login |
| 02:06.35 | r0bby | amittbhardwj: What was the email address which sent that suspect message |
| 02:06.49 | lucasm0ta | Proposals sent in the google platform can be evaluated by mentors before deadline ? |
| 02:06.55 | olly | like that can't be forged |
| 02:07.04 | olly | lucasm0ta: we can see drafts, not the final version |
| 02:07.42 | r0bby | lucasm0ta: assuming your final proposal is identical to your drafts -- we are making decisions -- but final decisions aren't made right now |
| 02:07.51 | amittbhardwj | r0bby: it was Systers and they also banned me from slack channel. I didn't even get a warning or a chance to defend myself |
| 02:07.53 | r0bby | We usually wait for all proposals to trickle in and then we look at them all |
| 02:08.13 | r0bby | amittbhardwj: Okay, so they banned you, not Google |
| 02:08.51 | r0bby | Orgs can't ban your account |
| 02:09.12 | amittbhardwj | r0bby: yes, but i made proposal for them and I eamiled google-support also for the same yesterdat and haven't got a reply yet. I am very worrieda |
| 02:09.19 | lucasm0ta | My proposal is already 3 pages long. Is that too long or should I be more precise ? |
| 02:09.22 | amittbhardwj | worried* |
| 02:09.32 | r0bby | lucasm0ta: it should be between 6-8 pages lucasm0ta |
| 02:09.57 | r0bby | It should be a plan of what you will do for the summer |
| 02:10.04 | r0bby | amittbhardwj: good luck |
| 02:10.06 | gsdev | amittbhardwj: did the org tell you why they banned you from their Slack? |
| 02:10.11 | olly | expected length is very org specific, and rather dependent on the project |
| 02:10.20 | amittbhardwj | gsdev: Our committee has identified that you have violated Google Summer of Code Rules, in particular - section 2.4. Therefore, Systers has reported you to Google and your Google Summer of Code account will be frozen. |
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| 02:10.39 | olly | also depends on font size - i don't think x-y pages is sound advice |
| 02:10.53 | lucasm0ta | r0bby, Saw some older Blender proposals that looked short compared to mine. I'll try to detail it more then. Thanks |
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| 02:11.11 | r0bby | lucasm0ta: I'd reject a proposal that short |
| 02:11.35 | amittbhardwj | anyone from the Systers org here? |
| 02:11.51 | olly | !anyone | amittbhardwj |
| 02:11.51 | gsocbot | amittbhardwj: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/ |
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| 02:12.10 | r0bby | amittbhardwj: I'd recommend finding an email for systers and email them and CC gsoc-support@google.com |
| 02:12.18 | amittbhardwj | r0bby: the systers mentor is asking to send PR to issues |
| 02:12.31 | amittbhardwj | r0bby: ok , thanks |
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| 02:12.51 | r0bby | You did _SOMETHING_ -- perhaps said something bad |
| 02:13.08 | r0bby | Are you sure you're banned from their slack? |
| 02:14.04 | gsdev | the slack ban is not looking good.here I was thinking a student spoofed an e-mail in an attempt to remove their competition :/ |
| 02:14.56 | r0bby | that's idiotic - esp. for an org like Systers |
| 02:15.09 | r0bby | s/idiotic/bad/gi |
| 02:17.21 | r0bby | olly: were you a student around 2008? |
| 02:17.55 | r0bby | actually nevermind lol |
| 02:18.19 | olly | r0bby: nope, but that was the first GSoC I was involved in IIRC |
| 02:18.40 | olly | not been a student for rather longer than I care to count |
| 02:20.00 | r0bby | heh |
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| 02:29.26 | amittbhardwj | r0bby: i am confident that i did nothing to piss anyone off |
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| 02:54.26 | r0bby | hmm.. |
| 02:54.47 | gsdev_ | r0bby hmm what? :S |
| 02:55.24 | r0bby | I'm not sure hat went down there |
| 02:56.10 | gsdev_ | oh I just joined the chat again so I don't see what you're referring to. guessing it's amittbhardwj's situation? |
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| 03:50.41 | valorie | oh, my |
| 03:51.00 | valorie | just read four mini-proposals in one doc |
| 03:51.13 | valorie | any one of them could have been good |
| 03:51.21 | valorie | how sad |
| 03:51.36 | valorie | and it's view-only |
| 03:51.40 | valorie | :( |
| 03:51.54 | r0bby | yeh -- I'm collecting the winners |
| 03:53.21 | valorie | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_2VTfVRKxvWVo1DI9kYCGunWQZR41IMqc2k-nSfKnO4/edit |
| 03:54.41 | valorie | that one makes me sad |
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| 04:01.18 | valorie | I'm getting quite worried about the number of students with drafts but no final proposal uploaded |
| 04:02.05 | r0bby | oh boy |
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| 04:08.10 | valorie | I wrote to the student list earlier about it |
| 04:08.16 | valorie | might wake a few of them |
| 04:08.20 | valorie | but geez |
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| 04:33.52 | Cervator | is 55 words any kind of record for "least effort on a proposal" i wonder? draft + final submitted same minute, naturally |
| 04:34.06 | valorie | sheesh |
| 04:34.14 | valorie | I want: gimme |
| 04:34.19 | Cervator | i mean, i've seen generic ones and bulk/spam ones but at least they tend to copy paste in a resume or something |
| 04:34.21 | valorie | there, only 3! |
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| 04:34.32 | Cervator | yeah the summary was 6 words :-) |
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| 04:43.43 | cpg | !next |
| 04:43.44 | gsocbot | cpg: "next" is student application ends on 3rd April 16:00 UTC |
| 04:45.45 | valorie | $ date -u |
| 04:45.48 | valorie | Mon Apr 3 04:45:34 UTC 2017 |
| 04:46.28 | valorie | 11 hours to get in gear |
| 04:47.59 | Cervator | 13 finals, 9 drafts, eep. Only really that one junk proposal plus < 5 nearly unknown surprises but half-decent anyway. Lots of good stuff including several more drafts |
| 04:48.17 | r0bby | Cervator: I've seen some bad ones |
| 04:48.23 | r0bby | We require code contributions |
| 04:48.31 | r0bby | lacking those, the ignore button was pressed. |
| 04:48.41 | Cervator | me too last year! we made a PR mandatory this year too, may have helped |
| 04:49.11 | r0bby | I wanna make a session at the mentor summit if I go to share propsoal winners |
| 04:49.18 | r0bby | ya know, those ones that were so bad... |
| 04:50.09 | Cervator | also, if i express curiosity about oddly low activity shortly after org announcements again next year, please slap me with a large trout. We peaked at 44 engine PRs after a slow start :( |
| 04:50.34 | r0bby | lemme pull up stats |
| 04:50.56 | r0bby | 17 finals, 8 drafts 14 ignored |
| 04:50.59 | r0bby | total 25 |
| 04:51.06 | Cervator | good number |
| 04:51.34 | r0bby | I'm org admin -- I do the infra work for the org |
| 04:51.36 | r0bby | :) |
| 04:52.03 | r0bby | (LibreHealth) |
| 04:52.24 | Cervator | same. How do we get stuck with that? can't just organize *some* of the things, have to organize *all* of the things ... |
| 04:53.22 | r0bby | Someone has to be the guy who says -- nope |
| 04:53.44 | r0bby | Cervator: I mean I'm one of the infra guys -- I don't do the coding much |
| 04:53.58 | Cervator | yep |
| 04:53.59 | r0bby | I found a way to contribute that isn't necessarily code-related |
| 04:54.06 | Cervator | i used to, but now no time |
| 04:54.19 | r0bby | It's fun -- now. |
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| 05:38.58 | olly | any other mentors/admins noticed the "status" column in the org proposal list not matching the status shown on the proposal page? |
| 05:40.50 | olly | oh, actually both say "status draft shared", but the proposal has a final PDF, so the status field seems wrong |
| 05:41.26 | terri | I was too busy being sad about the large number of drafts that I couldnât even read. |
| 05:41.35 | olly | wishes there was a public bug tracker to know if this was already reported |
| 05:44.08 | valorie | terri: I could read all of them, but about 1/3 were view only |
| 05:44.45 | terri | valorie: if I could at least view them I could email the ones that needed help, but I couldnât even view a bunch. |
| 05:44.55 | terri | well, assuming they included an email, which not all did. |
| 05:45.56 | valorie | indeed they did not |
| 05:46.23 | valorie | we got so pitifully few this year |
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| 05:46.29 | valorie | at least a few of them were good |
| 05:46.38 | valorie | looks like a vacation year for KDE |
| 05:47.12 | valorie | oh look, one more final submitted |
| 05:47.19 | valorie | sheesh |
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| 05:47.45 | terri | If you only count the final ones, weâre down a lot, but if we assume most of the draft ones will get finalized, weâre only down a little bit from last year |
| 05:48.19 | terri | ugh, this one is submitted to the wrong org and I have no way to warn the student. |
| 05:48.30 | terri | I hope they submitted to the correct one too, I guess. |
| 05:48.39 | valorie | 10 are still drafts; only 28 final |
| 05:48.46 | valorie | that's just amazing to me |
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| 05:49.34 | terri | oi, wow, I thought kde and python were usually pretty close in numbers |
| 05:49.40 | terri | weâve got 60 finalized, 81 total |
| 05:50.31 | valorie | I'm glad someone is getting the proposals |
| 05:51.10 | terri | Although I can already see just from the number of ones whose titles are âmy proposalâ that probably a lot of ours are going to be incomplete or badly done. |
| 05:51.14 | valorie | I'd be happier if all finals were good |
| 05:51.17 | valorie | but they are not |
| 05:51.42 | terri | Yeah, thatâs always sad |
| 05:56.47 | r0bby | A lot of the last second proposals are invalid |
| 05:57.03 | r0bby | "I waited until the last second, make an exception for me" |
| 05:57.06 | r0bby | Nope |
| 05:57.28 | r0bby | It's unfair to students who actually followed the rules |
| 05:57.29 | olly | terri: isn't the student's email on the propsal page? |
| 05:57.43 | r0bby | olly: Yeah, but that's work |
| 05:57.49 | valorie | I almost emailed one of them, but it's so late |
| 05:57.58 | r0bby | I'm not even bothering |
| 05:58.10 | olly | Sure, was just responding to "well, assuming they included an email, which not all did." |
| 05:58.10 | valorie | I responded to the ones who wrote asking for help early |
| 05:58.33 | r0bby | Students who dont join our chat are unlikely to get accepted |
| 05:58.36 | valorie | it's true, maybe they thought they didn't need to include all the info |
| 05:58.46 | lucasm0ta | Include timetable available is recommended ? |
| 05:58.47 | valorie | but we asked them for full info |
| 05:58.51 | r0bby | Students who don't seek feedback are aso unlikely |
| 05:58.53 | r0bby | lucasm0ta: Yes. |
| 05:59.01 | valorie | same here |
| 05:59.07 | r0bby | You need to show us how you'll manage your time |
| 05:59.11 | valorie | no communication -- probably no chance |
| 05:59.23 | r0bby | And give us a plan Lacking that = instant rejection |
| 05:59.32 | r0bby | Considering that there's now 10 hours |
| 05:59.40 | r0bby | I see zero hope |
| 06:00.32 | valorie | same here |
| 06:01.01 | valorie | unless they just forgot a link or two and are adding that |
| 06:01.18 | valorie | but the ones that were view-only |
| 06:01.21 | valorie | pfff |
| 06:02.03 | terri | olly: thatâs true, but it is also true that at this point itâs probably mean of me to ask them for revisions. And the ones that didnât even include an email address as requested by the template have hours of work that their proposals need. :/ |
| 06:02.31 | r0bby | terri: not following directions = instant rejection |
| 06:02.35 | olly | oh yes, totally ignoring the template isn't a good sign |
| 06:02.39 | r0bby | Lack of attention to detail |
| 06:02.52 | r0bby | (Holy crap, I'm coming off as an asshole) |
| 06:03.05 | r0bby | Language, sorry! |
| 06:03.13 | olly | you seem nearly as grumpy as meflin |
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| 06:03.42 | terri | r0bby: We always have a few good students miss one minor thing, so I let hte rules be a bit flexible and keep meflin around to yell at them. ;) |
| 06:04.03 | r0bby | olly: ouch |
| 06:05.56 | Robert_S | olly: Thanks for sending that support email, I wa sabout to go to bed. |
| 06:06.00 | terri | but thatâs true, I should email the person who submitted to the wrong org in case they didnât realize. |
| 06:06.48 | r0bby | Robert_S: how goes it? |
| 06:07.43 | terri | oh, nvm, the org I thought it should have gone to isnât in this year. Guess thatâs why they tried us. |
| 06:08.23 | Robert_S | r0bby: it's bedtime |
| 06:08.38 | Robert_S | and extracting all this data so I can validate the bug report is taking too long |
| 06:09.18 | olly | Robert_S: i doubt it's critical - the bit can presumably be flipped later if it doesn't fix itself |
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| 06:12.16 | Robert_S | olly: Yeah, and I think I'm going to punt on it for now. Was just trying to see if it was a one-off or not. |
| 06:17.53 | Robert_S | olly: Not a bug. I can go to sleep peacefully. |
| 06:23.18 | Robert_S | In the end, I didn't need the data, just had to look at the code. (Should have done that first.) |
| 06:23.36 | Robert_S | Anyway, Goodnight all. Happily, no late breaking technical issues. :) |
| 06:24.35 | pombreda | :) |
| 06:25.00 | valorie | <3 Robert_S |
| 06:27.09 | pombreda | +1 |
| 06:27.44 | pombreda | valorie: Hi :), may I ask which project you are affiliated with? |
| 06:27.50 | valorie | KDE |
| 06:28.33 | terri | darn, one of the projects I have a new mentor on that I *really* wanted to see happen still has no applicants. So sad. |
| 06:28.34 | pombreda | neat |
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| 06:29.45 | pombreda | terri: that was a reply to valorie! not you ;) |
| 06:29.53 | valorie | heh |
| 06:29.59 | valorie | sorry to hear that, terri |
| 06:30.15 | terri | pombreda: I assumed :) |
| 06:31.37 | terri | valorie: me too. Looking at the full spread, I think weâll have a number of mentors sitting out this year due to no viable applicants |
| 06:32.15 | pombreda | terri: you should not use just "so sad". The new normal is hyperbole and repetition. eg. try instead "one of the great great projects I have a fantastic and awesome new mentor... So very sick and sad" |
| 06:32.29 | terri | On the bright side, the students who are good should have lots of available mentors at least. :) |
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| 06:33.31 | pombreda | terri: At this stage, I may have many more good students proposals that we can mentor :| |
| 06:34.47 | terri | pombreda: weâre big, so I usually have a combo of both: a few projects that attracted multiple good students, and a few projects that attracted no good students. Since our mentors arenât interchangable, it means some with hard choices and some with no choices. |
| 06:35.23 | pombreda | terri: these are always difficult choices and at times heart wrenching |
| 06:35.47 | pombreda | terri: smart students usually try to shoot for the less traveled project ideas |
| 06:36.03 | terri | I donât know that thatâs actually true |
| 06:36.14 | terri | sometimes some ideas are just interesting to a lot of people :) |
| 06:36.17 | valorie | I hope that they go for the projects they really want to do |
| 06:36.46 | pombreda | On my side I encouraged the early arrivals to look for more risque ideas |
| 06:36.50 | valorie | so much easier to get over the tough stretches when you love the project |
| 06:36.52 | terri | itâs actually sometimes the *worst* applicants that spend a lot of time trying to game the system by finding out what the least popular ideas are. ;) |
| 06:37.05 | pombreda | valorie: true |
| 06:39.27 | terri | On the bright side, fewer proposals titled âmy proposalâ this year than last. :) |
| 06:39.29 | terri | Although I imagine weâll get a bunch in the last hours, so maybe I shouldnât be excited about that yet. |
| 06:39.40 | pombreda | terri: I never actually seen that happen in many many years of GSoC mentoring/admining |
| 06:40.03 | pombreda | the gaming part trying to find less traveled idea |
| 06:40.18 | terri | pombreda: Lucky you. :) |
| 06:41.23 | pombreda | terri: what proportion of apps do you have that are roughly as "me want code, please help" and nothing else of substance? |
| 06:41.41 | terri | What I learned from summit last year is that being org admin for a big org, I see a lot of the pathalogical behaviours way sooner than most. |
| 06:42.03 | pombreda | :) |
| 06:42.23 | terri | I hadnât really thought about it until someone commented last year that they hadnât seen $some_sketchy_behaviour_I_was_describing until theyâd been invovled for 7 years. |
| 06:43.39 | terri | pombreda: Itâs gone down a lot since the submission limits got smaller. There used to be students who as far as I could tell submitted something like âplease accept meâ to every org. |
| 06:43.57 | pombreda | yep :D |
| 06:44.10 | pombreda | terri: and you admin for? |
| 06:44.24 | terri | now⦠maybe 10%? |
| 06:44.53 | terri | pombreda: Python |
| 06:45.13 | terri | Iâd guess we pick up more âplease helpâ ones that most because weâre at least a programming language people have heard of |
| 06:45.44 | terri | We also get some really creative ones that have nothing to do with anything our mentors want to supervise, though, so at least thatâs fun. |
| 06:46.05 | terri | Good reading even if Iâve never been able to find a mentor for any of them |
| 06:46.14 | terri | And the odd one is so questionable ethically that I donât even try. |
| 06:46.30 | pombreda | terri: some of these are really fun |
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| 06:48.14 | pombreda | terri: FWIW our stuff is all/mostly Python |
| 06:48.56 | terri | pombreda: I forget if you said, but which org? I always like knowing who else to send students to. :) |
| 06:49.33 | r0bby | Robert_S: you should open source the code :) |
| 06:49.39 | r0bby | runs |
| 06:49.48 | terri | r0bby: wait until heâs asleep and them ambush, eh? |
| 06:49.56 | r0bby | terri: yup |
| 06:50.04 | terri | r0bby: you *are* a jerk tonight. ;) |
| 06:50.18 | r0bby | s/tonight//gi |
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| 07:11.16 | r0bby | pombreda, terri: we got an airline reservation system proposal :) |
| 07:11.51 | pombreda | r0bby: and I have a blood pulse scanner using opencv :D |
| 07:12.17 | r0bby | That is interesting |
| 07:12.26 | r0bby | the airlne reservation system one was funny |
| 07:12.30 | pombreda | yes, very, but very far off a "code scanner" |
| 07:12.51 | valorie | we got one for controlling robots |
| 07:13.00 | valorie | interesting idea, but nothing to do with KDE |
| 07:13.09 | r0bby | If any of you wanna see the proposal, I'll share via PM |
| 07:13.14 | r0bby | it's quite...funny |
| 07:13.17 | pombreda | valorie: nah, you are wrong. KDE needs robots :D |
| 07:13.29 | r0bby | WHY |
| 07:13.30 | pombreda | r0bby: please do |
| 07:14.04 | valorie | well, we do have a mycroft plasmoid |
| 07:14.25 | valorie | so maybe next year |
| 07:14.55 | pombreda | wtf is a mycroft plasmoid :D ? |
| 07:15.44 | pombreda | valorie: at least this seems in the KDE realm from a quick google search |
| 07:16.52 | pombreda | r0bby: thx. this is too short to be real funny IMO. My blood pulse one is a real fully featured proposal. Mostly well researched. |
| 07:17.02 | valorie | pombreda: have you heard about mycroft? |
| 07:17.10 | valorie | open source Alexa, basically |
| 07:17.13 | r0bby | pombreda: for a complex system...yeh |
| 07:17.18 | valorie | although it was around before alexa |
| 07:17.48 | pombreda | valorie: nope, this is the first time I hear of it |
| 07:18.47 | valorie | https://www.linux.com/news/mycroft-linuxs-own-ai |
| 07:19.03 | pombreda | valorie: don't you hate a foss project using slack for communication? |
| 07:19.05 | pombreda | does |
| 07:19.06 | valorie | so if that grows, maybe next year |
| 07:19.23 | valorie | pombreda: it's sad to see, yes |
| 07:21.15 | pombreda | valorie: I caved in also offering a gitter channel. But irc is the main channel. At least gitter can be seen publicly and has an irc built in |
| 07:21.48 | pombreda | valorie: but slack is exclusively a wall garden. Great for biz, poor for FOSS |
| 07:21.55 | valorie | some of our teams use Telegram bridged to IRC |
| 07:22.04 | pombreda | neat |
| 07:22.13 | valorie | and one, rocket chat <> Telegram |
| 07:22.36 | valorie | their students can't access IRC from uni, for the most part |
| 07:22.46 | pombreda | :) |
| 07:23.01 | valorie | yes, I think slack is slick |
| 07:23.10 | valorie | but not one bit Free |
| 07:23.23 | pombreda | yep |
| 07:23.27 | pombreda | on the fun side, this is the first time I ever received a proposal draft composed entirely of Lorem ipsum :D |
| 07:23.37 | valorie | ! |
| 07:23.41 | pombreda | I was tempted to comment with "Ipsum lorem" |
| 07:23.50 | valorie | what org, pombreda? |
| 07:23.54 | pombreda | but I made a constructive comment asking for extra details |
| 07:24.01 | pombreda | valorie: aboutcode.org |
| 07:24.12 | valorie | I think I would have simply ignored |
| 07:24.22 | pombreda | valorie: I am a good soul |
| 07:24.41 | pombreda | valorie: this was an early one, it could have been an honest mistake |
| 07:24.59 | pombreda | before the rush |
| 07:25.03 | valorie | sure, and early on, I'm a good soul too |
| 07:25.16 | valorie | but at the end, rather hard-hearted |
| 07:25.17 | pombreda | :D |
| 07:25.52 | valorie | I repeatedly offer to help students who write to me |
| 07:25.56 | valorie | and I do |
| 07:26.16 | pombreda | valorie: same here. I wonder what they learn at school sometimes |
| 07:26.20 | valorie | hmmm, I think I need to restart of something |
| 07:26.32 | valorie | not to do Free software, for sure! |
| 07:26.51 | pombreda | ? |
| 07:28.02 | pombreda | valorie: it feels at times that some students have left their brain home |
| 07:31.29 | valorie | yes, I agree |
| 07:32.25 | r0bby | I wonder if these students think this will actually end favorably for them? Are they that full of themselves? |
| 07:32.58 | pombreda | r0bby: may be they think it is a lottery? |
| 07:33.24 | r0bby | It's not gonna end well. I'm not even gonna bother contacting them |
| 07:33.28 | pombreda | the troubling part I could never understand is the strong correlation I have always seen with the locale of the student |
| 07:33.37 | valorie | they don't have the maturity yet to look at their proposals (or their behavior) as others would see them |
| 07:34.01 | valorie | pombreda: that tracks with educational quality |
| 07:34.01 | pombreda | valorie: true, most are usually first year students |
| 07:34.10 | r0bby | There s a correlation between locale and junk proposals |
| 07:34.34 | valorie | who knows |
| 07:34.42 | valorie | but I need to sleep |
| 07:34.44 | pombreda | valorie: I am not privy to educational quality in various locale :P |
| 07:34.49 | pombreda | valorie: sweet dreams |
| 07:34.54 | valorie | everything will look better in the morning |
| 07:35.01 | valorie | niters all |
| 07:36.38 | pombreda | r0bby: which org are you with if I may ask? |
| 07:37.33 | r0bby | LIbreHealth (umbrella Health IT Org which forked OpenEMR and OpenMRS(2 OpenMRS projects were forked) |
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| 07:38.08 | pombreda | r0bby: neato. I will suggest my blood pulse scanner student to retract and resubmit your way |
| 07:38.23 | pombreda | that feels more appropriate :P |
| 07:38.36 | r0bby | pombreda: don't |
| 07:38.45 | r0bby | We don't have the mentors for it |
| 07:39.00 | r0bby | Right now we have specific needs :) |
| 07:39.21 | r0bby | OpenMRS _MAY_ be interested though |
| 07:39.36 | r0bby | I dont know -- I don't lurk around OpenMRS any longer |
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| 07:42.19 | r0bby | Maybe next year but definitely not this year |
| 07:42.36 | r0bby | If they wanna do it on their own -- that's up to them |
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| 07:43.09 | pombreda | r0bby: email sent to the blood pulse student |
| 07:43.34 | r0bby | pombreda: eh -- we can't mentor them -- I told students to NOT propose their owb ideas |
| 07:43.44 | pombreda | I suggested to consider an alternative org with an health focus :) |
| 07:43.53 | r0bby | Oh dear |
| 07:44.08 | pombreda | they may pick you or someone else. Or may likely ignore my suggestion |
| 07:44.14 | r0bby | This might not be their year |
| 07:44.23 | r0bby | They'd have to write a REALLY kickass proposal |
| 07:44.27 | pombreda | :P |
| 07:44.54 | r0bby | I can't mentor it |
| 07:47.36 | pombreda | you do not have to. It will unlikely come your way anyway at this late stage |
| 07:50.18 | r0bby | yeh :) |
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| 07:50.31 | r0bby | hey l4rry |
| 07:50.33 | r0bby | ! |
| 07:50.36 | r0bby | :o) |
| 07:50.46 | l4rry | r0bby: hey |
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| 08:10.19 | mystictot | what do we have to write in abstract section |
| 08:10.21 | mystictot | ? |
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| 08:37.36 | terri | mystictot: A shorter summary of your proposal. If you get accepted, I think thatâs the part that shows up on the public website with your name so people can see what youâre working on. |
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| 08:52.43 | mystictot | terri: thanks a lot |
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| 09:07.42 | djokester | Hello! I uploaded my proof of enrollment. I also uploaded three proposal PDF. It's written Final Proposal Submiited beside the organization name. Is there anything else I need to do? |
| 09:08.58 | ma08 | that's it afaik. |
| 09:13.29 | pombreda | djokester: the orgs may have other requirements. I for one request both a PR and some community involvement and activity |
| 09:14.44 | pombreda | e.g. MO is that FOSS involvement is 1/3 code, 1/3 smarts and 1/3 social and 1/3 docs :) e.g. 4/3rd ;) |
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| 11:23.00 | achillion | Things getting crazy today..? |
| 11:23.12 | achillion | Or is the IRC side of the GSoC quiet? |
| 11:25.15 | Ploppz | waiting for input from mentors about deciding on a project (need to know scope, subtasks, whether it's a good idea etc)... Hope they reply before the deadline. |
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| 11:26.07 | Valodim | wading through spam proposals, trying to provide feedback to good ones. always glad when this part of gsoc is over :) |
| 11:26.12 | nishu1502 | in the proposal section , we have to submit only extract of the original proposal? |
| 11:27.23 | achillion | Ploppz: that's a bit tight |
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| 11:28.08 | Ploppz | achillion: I know.. I have been occationally requesting input since friday (when I first heard about GSoC). |
| 11:28.42 | achillion | That's even tighter. |
| 11:30.02 | Ploppz | :/ Well I worked hard this whole weekend to do the task they (mircokernel devroom) asked for, and the only thing the application lacks is sections about the project. Which is still quite a lot to do. |
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| 11:55.45 | achillion | eyes js____ suspiciously |
| 11:56.20 | tameeshb | achillion: lol |
| 11:56.23 | js____ | lol, some are just too annoying sometimes |
| 11:56.37 | achillion | No, I agree. Sometimes they feel like they go on forever. |
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| 11:59.37 | olly | pro-tip: click some incorrectly to mess with their machine learning |
| 12:00.53 | js____ | achillons if you want a free iPod click this link |
| 12:01.10 | achillion | FREE IPOD OH BOY |
| 12:01.18 | achillion | Wait, what year is this..? |
| 12:01.25 | js____ | haha |
| 12:02.58 | js____ | are people including their resume in their proposal too? the organization didn't ask for it, but I'm thinking of including it |
| 12:03.52 | olly | some students do |
| 12:03.59 | olly | the odd one sends only a resume |
| 12:04.15 | olly | but we don't pick those |
| 12:04.46 | js____ | yeah definitely not, a resume doesn't include details of your project ideas lol |
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| 12:05.12 | achillion | js____: I think most do. Can't hurt to put a link to it at the end. The org can ignore it if they don't want it. |
| 12:05.12 | js____ | but I can imagine a lot of people spamming their resume and just not getting it |
| 12:06.06 | js____ | ok thanks guys, I'm just going to include a link |
| 12:09.28 | js____ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:32.44 | YashdSa78 | !logs |
| 12:32.44 | gsocbot | YashdSa78: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 12:34.40 | palset | is it possible for organisations not to consider those proposals who are submitted directly in .pdf form rather than submitting a draft proposal first |
| 12:35.09 | pombreda | palset: orgs will only consider the pdf |
| 12:35.33 | pombreda | this is the "law" |
| 12:36.28 | palset | pombreda: thank you :) |
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| 12:38.55 | pombreda | palset: so update your pdf accordingly to match any draft you have worked on |
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| 13:01.11 | js____ | *sigh* completing a proposal in the last few hours is really stressful (just due to my living situation), but thankfully I'm close to being done |
| 13:03.12 | Ploppz | js____: same. You didn't get any feedback/dialogue on what project you should pick is that so? That is my case at least. What I'm doing now is, I picked a quite big task, saying what subtasks can be done, and that I have to set the scope with a mentor during april before the coding. |
| 13:03.44 | Ploppz | I hope that will be ok... |
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| 13:05.04 | js____ | @Ploppz yes, I didn't review anything with them but they did say they're open to other ideas... I'm sure it won't matter as long as the quality is good. Good luck! |
| 13:05.10 | js____ | Ploppz |
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| 13:06.36 | Ploppz | thanks, you too js____ |
| 13:06.54 | Ploppz | but how do you know whether the scope of your proposal is not too big or too small? |
| 13:07.58 | js____ | Plopzz by asking them, but it's too late so gotta do what you gotta do ya know? give it your best shot :) |
| 13:08.36 | Ploppz | true :) |
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| 13:11.07 | olly | pombreda: i don't think you answered the question palset asked - an org certainly could decide to not consider proposals for which no draft was submitted |
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| 13:14.16 | panzone | especially if the student never tried to interact with the community before |
| 13:17.48 | js____ | panzone olly i plan to still participate in the community during the decision period to show the org I'm serious and hopefully that'll make some difference |
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| 13:36.40 | squimrel | wonders if Google has a fancy system in place yet to automatically evaluate proof of enrollments. They do seem to have enough data. |
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| 13:38.51 | Ploppz | If I am to propose that we specify the exact scope and subtasks after the application deadline - at what point should this be done? Before May 4th or in the period May 4th - May 30th? I saw that someone were going to establish clear goals and a roadmap, in the "Before coding begins" period. |
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| 13:54.31 | js____ | are organizations notified each time we make an edit to our proposal? I keep making minor changes and hope they only see my final version :D |
| 13:56.03 | achillion | If it's a Google doc, they might have GDoc edit notifications (I do) |
| 13:56.19 | js____ | oh no, it's just a PDF |
| 13:57.09 | achillion | Then I'm not sure. I think no. |
| 13:57.19 | js____ | ok thanks achillion |
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| 14:05.13 | fr256 | Hi everyone! Will we know accepted or not our proposal only after 4 May? |
| 14:05.34 | js____ | frz256 yes, organizations can't notify early unfortunately |
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| 14:24.50 | js____ | phew, submitted my proposal in time with ~1 and a half hours to go |
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| 14:30.06 | js____ | and here I thought I could actually submit more than 1 proposal, ha! |
| 14:30.41 | lucasm0ta | Same here. Sent mine an hour ago |
| 14:30.51 | js____ | nice, good luck lucasm0ta! |
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| 14:30.55 | txjoe_ | still uploading :p |
| 14:31.26 | lucasm0ta | You too js___ |
| 14:31.27 | js____ | get right on it txjoe_, you're cutting it kinda close :D |
| 14:31.47 | txjoe_ | Haha, was waiting for reviews on my proposal draft bro ! All set now ! |
| 14:31.56 | txjoe_ | And done ^_^ |
| 14:32.35 | js____ | hooray! :) |
| 14:32.51 | mcintire1van | Woo! |
| 14:33.14 | txjoe_ | What projects did u guys apply to? js____ lucasm0ta |
| 14:33.36 | lucasm0ta | txjoe_ Blender. |
| 14:33.56 | txjoe_ | That's awesome! ^_^ |
| 14:34.02 | txjoe_ | I applied to metasploit |
| 14:34.20 | mcintireevan | I applied to Physical Web |
| 14:34.38 | js____ | txjoe_: I suggested my own, based on my skill level (prob not enough but I tried :D) |
| 14:34.50 | txjoe_ | I'm not familiar with Physical Web, I'll go look it up! |
| 14:35.13 | txjoe_ | js____, you still have one month to show them you know your stuff right ? :) |
| 14:35.28 | js____ | txjoe_: yeah, thankfully :) |
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| 14:39.58 | mcintireevan | What countries are all of you from? |
| 14:40.09 | txjoe_ | India! You ? |
| 14:40.18 | lucasm0ta | Brazil here |
| 14:40.36 | mcintireevan | USA |
| 14:41.53 | achillion | Germany |
| 14:42.03 | txjoe_ | Has anyone done this before ? |
| 14:42.23 | js____ | USA |
| 14:42.24 | achillion | First time mentor, student a few years ago. |
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| 14:43.44 | tameeshb_mob | India, first time student |
| 14:44.02 | mcintireevan | I've done Google Code In a few times but not GSOC |
| 14:44.35 | txjoe_ | I never heard of Google Code In when i was eligible sadly |
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| 14:44.50 | tameeshb_mob | txjoe_: neither did I :( |
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| 14:50.36 | mcintireevan | :( |
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| 14:55.15 | pombreda | olly: the answer would be the same IMHO. From a proposal POV, having a draft or not should make no difference and the final is what matters |
| 14:56.17 | pombreda | olly: now from a community interaction POV, having a draft submitted ahead for discussion and review is of course something to take into consideration |
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| 14:58.42 | pombreda | olly: for me the proposal + a reviewable draft ahead of time + the ability to communicate and interact at the right time + demonstrate real coding with a PR are all part of the selection process |
| 14:58.46 | olly | My point was an org might have such a policy... |
| 14:58.58 | pombreda | olly: true |
| 15:00.42 | pombreda | olly: but even for orgs that have no such policy, this matters IMHO. e.g. if you have tow identical and superb proposals. One was reviewed as a draft with community interactions and code PRs. One was not. |
| 15:01.05 | pombreda | olly: who you gonna call? |
| 15:01.17 | olly | Ghostbusters |
| 15:01.22 | pombreda | exactly :D |
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| 15:15.03 | js____ | pombreda: what if the student still communicated and made contributions within the decision period and explained it to you? would it make a difference? i had a lot going on and didn't have time to do anything until today |
| 15:16.20 | panzone | js____: who knows. there isn't a precise answer, because each and every community sees thing differently |
| 15:17.50 | js____ | panzone: true, I'll check with my community and see if my proposal is even acceptable since I couldn't get it reviewed |
| 15:19.37 | panzone | in general orgs should evaluate only the final proposal you submitted before the deadline (in 40 minutes?). you can't present a proposal after the deadline, it wouldn't be fair to the other students |
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| 15:20.16 | panzone | so right now I would concentrate on that |
| 15:20.53 | js____ | panzone: oh no, I already submitted it about an hour ago. I just don't know if my proposal idea is acceptable since I suggested my own and never got it reviewed. |
| 15:21.18 | Ch3ck_ | 00:00:38:40-- *count down* |
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| 15:21.51 | js____ | !count |
| 15:21.54 | panzone | js____: you can't expect a proposal you've send an hour ago to be reviewed before the deadline. |
| 15:21.59 | meflin | no countdowns |
| 15:23.26 | js____ | panzone: sorry I've been pulling an all nighter. I meant I'm going to ask if my project proposal was acceptable due to it being my own idea. if it's not then I accept their decision. |
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| 15:30.22 | numa | is there anything other that proof and proposal have to be submitted? |
| 15:31.05 | js____ | numa depends on the organization you're applying at, you may be required to submit a contribution or fix a bug. see their application details for more info. |
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| 15:31.52 | numa | js____: yes but i am saying from google point of view like the official requirements |
| 15:32.11 | js____ | oh yes, that's all numa :) |
| 15:32.22 | numa | js____: thank you |
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| 15:33.24 | js____ | numa now you can chill and Maia hii, maiaa hoo, Maia haa, Maia haha ;) |
| 15:34.26 | numa | js____: yes finally |
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| 15:35.12 | moongazer | It's been memorable |
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| 15:36.36 | js____ | I wonder how many applicants there are as compared to last year |
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| 15:51.16 | Valodim | I feel like we have a larger number of spam proposals than in the last years |
| 15:52.05 | Valodim | roughly half went to the ignore list right away, and there might be more where the final proposal can't yet be viewed |
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| 15:52.23 | sicko | hehe haha |
| 15:52.23 | js____ | yikes! this does make me feel good about my own proposal |
| 15:52.37 | sicko | js____, what? I just got here |
| 15:53.01 | js____ | oh Valodim was just saying they got a large # of spam proposals this year |
| 15:53.20 | js____ | larger than last years I mean |
| 15:54.18 | wasiqm | Damn. That kinda sucks. I submitted only 1 . Relax if you've worked hard on it you might get through :) |
| 15:54.58 | wasiqm | The spam thing is annoying though. |
| 15:55.18 | terri | if you at least read the basic instructions, you donât generally get marked as spam. Thatâs usually for the proposals that are mostly blank or completely unrelated to the org. |
| 15:55.23 | js____ | Valodim can you give us an idea of what types of spam you've gotten? |
| 15:55.54 | Valodim | mostly people who obviously havn't even read our gsoc landing page |
| 15:56.02 | wasiqm | terri, But one should have put in the effort to make a reasonable proposal. |
| 15:56.11 | Valodim | we have a "you need to have one PR accepted to apply" criteria, and many proposals just missed that |
| 15:56.27 | terri | wasiqm: You would think, but lots of folk submit⦠basically a random pdf off hteir hard drive. |
| 15:56.35 | wasiqm | Valodim, One PR accepted or applied? |
| 15:57.00 | Valodim | it says accepted, although we will also accept a good effort |
| 15:57.04 | js____ | ok understood, thanks |
| 15:57.22 | wasiqm | terri, But i think that as a mentor you would be able to notice that off the bat. Its sad that people are missing the basic point of GSoC |
| 15:57.38 | terri | wasiqm: We got one submission last year that was a half-finished presentation on something that, frankly, wouldnât have passed ethics approval at any reasonable university. |
| 15:58.59 | wasiqm | terri, Seriously? Lol , thats heights of testing your luck. God would have to be in a extra generous mood. |
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| 16:00.06 | js____ | 2 |
| 16:00.07 | js____ | 1 |
| 16:00.07 | wasiqm | I was tempted to try making one more proposal in under 4 hours. :D |
| 16:00.07 | js____ | DONE |
| 16:00.51 | wasiqm | Good luck everyone :D May you have an enjoyable summer, remember that its just an internship and you can still contribute. |
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| 16:01.12 | terri | wasiqm: and yeah, theyâre easy to notice, but it doesnât make them any less disappointing to us as organizations. We spend a lot of time trying to make it clear what we want, and then people donât even try. |
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| 16:02.17 | js____ | I got nervous and double checked... my enrollment and proposal is definitely submitted. now the wait begins! |
| 16:02.23 | terri | Or worst, they get really bad advice. There was one year we got a dozen or so identical paragraphs with the names changed because one university said âcut and paste this to get inâ and they believed it. |
| 16:02.26 | sidak | I submitted on a minute before deadline |
| 16:02.38 | sidak | But it didn't change the status |
| 16:02.50 | sidak | The bar got fully loaded with purple color |
| 16:02.50 | wasiqm | terri, Makes sense. Typically how long does it take for you to go through a proposal? |
| 16:02.53 | sidak | I tried it twice |
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| 16:03.09 | js____ | lol terri |
| 16:03.26 | js____ | that's just hilarious |
| 16:03.26 | sidak | I believe because of the traffic load it wasn't uploaded :( |
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| 16:03.33 | sidak | Pleas check |
| 16:03.48 | js____ | sorry sidak :/ |
| 16:03.49 | wasiqm | lol yeah, that some crazy stuff. |
| 16:04.09 | sidak | What can I do now? |
| 16:04.09 | wasiqm | sidak, did you submit a final proposal before hand? |
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| 16:04.33 | sidak | I had submitted the draft and had uploaded the pdf as well |
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| 16:04.47 | sidak | But after uploading bar progress filled |
| 16:04.53 | sidak | It didn't show any change |
| 16:05.00 | intrigus | That's why you don't submit things last-minute. |
| 16:05.02 | sidak | please helpme |
| 16:05.03 | wasiqm | What does it say on the dash? |
| 16:05.14 | sidak | I am feeling really bad |
| 16:05.14 | wasiqm | intrigus, Exactly. |
| 16:05.19 | meflin | there are no extensions |
| 16:05.20 | js____ | !help |
| 16:05.21 | gsocbot | js____: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 16:05.27 | js____ | !support |
| 16:05.27 | gsocbot | js____: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 16:05.47 | js____ | @sidak you can try e-mailing support, but I doubt they'd make an exception as that'd be unfair to other students |
| 16:05.49 | Valodim | here's a gem: https://matrix.stratum0.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/stratum0.org/zdMbrlOnYmgfRpGIUXDdzLIZ |
| 16:05.53 | intrigus | @meflin btw. is there a list of supported commands for the gsocbot? |
| 16:06.03 | js____ | I do empathize and I'm sorry, it sucks |
| 16:06.09 | wasiqm | js____, where did you apply? |
| 16:06.12 | meflin | intrigus: not sure you can /msg it |
| 16:06.22 | terri | wasiqm: On average, maybe a few minutes, because there are so many outright bad ones. for hte good ones, can be hours or days of arguing relative merits of good students. :) |
| 16:06.58 | Valodim | that page was the second page of a two-page proposal, where the first was a cover with name and project title |
| 16:07.32 | Valodim | and it's apparently serious, even referencing our "simple patch" rule. I don't even know what some people are thinking :) |
| 16:07.54 | intrigus | Valodim: What's your organisation? |
| 16:07.55 | wasiqm | terri, Oh i see. So you discuss about who is the best candidate. Can you have more that 1 instance of the same project if you have slots? People doing the same thing in different ways? |
| 16:08.11 | skamath | intrigus, Just did recon on him. Looks like k9mail to me. |
| 16:08.15 | Valodim | intrigus: K-9 Mail |
| 16:08.16 | js____ | Valodim: Lol, this is really cracking me up "Ooo yeah that's for sure". Oooo really? :D |
| 16:08.23 | skamath | 0:) |
| 16:08.47 | Valodim | it's not even identifiable from the proposal :D |
| 16:08.58 | wasiqm | Valodim, This makes me feel bad about all the hard work i put into mine. |
| 16:09.03 | terri | wasiqm: it all depends on the project. Sometimes, yes, a project can be divided up between students, sometimes itâs not possible. Weâre required to make sure that no studentâs project depends on another studentâs project so that one person getting stuck doesnât affect anyone else. |
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| 16:09.22 | Valodim | wasiqm: don't feel bad. there is a reason we refer to proposals like this as "spam" |
| 16:09.55 | Valodim | and I'm thankful there is an "Ignore" button in the proposal list |
| 16:09.57 | wasiqm | Goal design UI. - _ - |
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| 16:10.30 | terri | Valodim: I definitely saw another spammy proposal with that same template submitted to us. Hopefully it wasnât students getting bad advice again. |
| 16:10.40 | eirien | hello! clock counting time till deadline still counts one hour left for me and I missed the deadline :((( |
| 16:10.44 | Valodim | terri: that template was used several times actually! |
| 16:10.47 | wasiqm | terri, Not dicided.. More like doing the same thing in different approaches. |
| 16:10.51 | js____ | ugh, just noticed a grammar error in my proposal |
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| 16:11.23 | Valodim | I wonder if that template was in some student manual somewhere |
| 16:11.47 | terri | wasiqm: itâs allowed (you can even have simultaneous students tryign to do the same approach as long as they donât depend on each other) but itâs pretty rare for an org to have mentors willing to do that. |
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| 16:13.03 | wasiqm | terri, But why? Is it too much effort as a mentor? |
| 16:13.24 | Valodim | terri: was the spammy proposal with that template from a pakistan student, by any chance? |
| 16:13.31 | terri | wasiqm: Itâs a lot of hours of work to mentor and I think most orgs donât feel that kind of competition to be a good use of their time. |
| 16:13.37 | terri | Valodim: no clue, it didnât provide country info |
| 16:14.15 | Valodim | ah, too bad. the ones that did have country info with that template were from pakistan in our case, that's why I wondered |
| 16:14.18 | wasiqm | Valodim, Possible. Why doesn't google reduce the proposal limit to 2 or 3 ? Making a single good proposal is hard enough. |
| 16:14.52 | Valodim | *shrug |
| 16:15.04 | meflin | wasiqm: proposals used to be unlimited |
| 16:15.21 | terri | I think they still want to give students a chance to work with a few orgs if they want, and 5 is small enough that it cut down on the people who used to spam everyone. |
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| 16:16.06 | js____ | Valodim, but they assure you they can do that design really materialistically good. their hands will make it awesome. ;) |
| 16:16.21 | Valodim | Ooo they will |
| 16:16.22 | terri | given that we need a policy in place to resolve duplicates where two orgs want the same proposal, itâs demonstrably true that a student can write two good proposals. :) |
| 16:16.26 | js____ | Oooo yeah :D |
| 16:16.39 | terri | err, want the same student. not the same proposal, usually. :) |
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| 16:17.07 | wasiqm | terri, True. Maybe i just need to up my game. |
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| 16:17.39 | wasiqm | i just noticed when gsoc started this irc had 1000 + people. |
| 16:17.46 | wasiqm | not it has just 300 + |
| 16:18.01 | meflin | 300 is about normal |
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| 16:18.56 | js____ | org admins, does your dashboard show the total proposals you received? if so, can you tell us? just curious |
| 16:19.56 | pombreda | js____: I am not sure if it is OK with the GSoC team for us to do this ;) |
| 16:20.15 | Valodim | hm. why would that be a secret? |
| 16:20.25 | pombreda | js____: on my side in the high two figures |
| 16:20.31 | pombreda | almost 3 |
| 16:20.38 | Valodim | We received 50 proposals, out of which we marked 24 as ignored so far |
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| 16:21.32 | js____ | thanks for sharing pombreda Valodim. |
| 16:21.36 | pombreda | Valodim: why would that be a secrete good point. |
| 16:21.47 | pombreda | * a secret: good point! |
| 16:21.55 | terri | itâs secret so org admins have the option if they want to share it or not. |
| 16:22.00 | js____ | lol pombreda :D |
| 16:22.07 | terri | Many students get *really* stressed out when they hear there have been a lot of applicants |
| 16:22.36 | pombreda | sttaylor: is this acceptable to you if an org admin shares the count of proposals they received here? |
| 16:22.44 | pombreda | terri: exactly |
| 16:22.59 | meflin | the raw number of applications does say very much about how many GOOD applications there are |
| 16:23.05 | meflin | does not |
| 16:23.08 | js____ | hah, that should be expected... it doesn't bother me. surprisingly I've seen smaller numbers posted so far than I expected. |
| 16:23.13 | sttaylor | pombreda: that is up to you. It may just stress the students out more. you donÕt know how many slots youÕll get so it doesnÕt really matter. |
| 16:23.30 | Valodim | it says nothing, in fact. the ratio of reasonable proposals has varied over the years just as much as the total |
| 16:23.31 | pombreda | sttaylor: exactly |
| 16:23.33 | terri | Although as you can see from Valodimâs numbers, a high number of applicants doensât tell you much about how many halfway decent proposals there were. :) |
| 16:23.57 | js____ | yeah the spam proposal #s make me more confident (kinda ;) ) |
| 16:25.14 | pombreda | js____: my experience over the years is that an org with a 2 figures count of proposals sees roughly 2/3 to 3/4 of these as really not actionable |
| 16:25.26 | varshavp27 | was not able to submit proof of enrollment before the deadline :( |
| 16:26.12 | pombreda | Valodim: may I ask which org you are with? |
| 16:26.19 | Valodim | still K-9 Mail |
| 16:26.28 | js____ | oh interesting pombreda |
| 16:26.43 | js____ | varshavp27: ah sorry! I would have just submitted like a grade transcript or anything at all, because they let you resubmit later if they don't accept |
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| 16:28.15 | fr256 | Hi everyone! Ohh, now we must wait whole month |
| 16:28.42 | saurabhshri | I can still find the option to upload proof of enrollment.. ð |
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| 16:30.32 | TinoDidriksen | Hm, topic matches actual closing time, but website is off by an hour. |
| 16:31.09 | pombreda | js____: so in many case ~ 100 subs ~= 25 to 35 decent subs. |
| 16:31.18 | Robert_S | TinoDidriksen: It is? |
| 16:31.28 | pombreda | :D |
| 16:31.32 | TinoDidriksen | And we had people who relied in the website stating "18:00 (Romance Standard Time)" which is in half an hour. |
| 16:31.33 | pombreda | awesome |
| 16:31.50 | pombreda | well the timeline says CEST |
| 16:32.05 | Robert_S | The website uses the local time of your browser. |
| 16:32.30 | pombreda | ah, is it 18:00 AOE, anywhere on earth? |
| 16:33.38 | Robert_S | It's 16:00 UTC, and we ask your browser to print the local conversion of it. |
| 16:34.06 | js____ | I'm not sure if this website is still powered by melange, but I love the newer interface of GSOC. last time I tried was in 2013 and it was buggy. |
| 16:34.31 | TinoDidriksen | Hm, weird, then the definition of my browser differs from the definition of everyone else. My computer is indeed in CEST and 16 UTC is 18 CEST (UTC+2), but Romance Standard Time is only UTC+1... |
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| 16:34.37 | wasiqm | I agree. I think the numbers shouldn't be told. The stress is usually real. |
| 16:34.47 | eirien | it says Due: April 4, 2017 at 02:00 (Yakutsk (winter)) and still counts down 26 minutes |
| 16:35.36 | TinoDidriksen | Hah, yeah, Chrome says 18:00 (Romance Daylight Time) but Firefox says 18:00 (Romance Standard Time) ... Firefox inverted RST and RDT. |
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| 16:38.53 | sumit | I have submitted 2 proposals only and i din't got any review. Is there any chance to be selection of my proposal? |
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| 16:39.56 | Valodim | did you talk to the org? |
| 16:40.08 | HoloIRCUser | Hello |
| 16:40.12 | wasiqm | sumit, Upto how good your proposals are,your luck and your organisations. |
| 16:40.14 | moongazer | sumit, there is |
| 16:40.58 | sumit | okay |
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| 16:42.06 | HoloIRCUser | I had a question regarding the propsal submission, i have successfully submitted my final proposal to the concerned Organization, but unfortunately i have submitted the wrong pdf in the end. I have submitted the draft and the draft link correctly thigh. |
| 16:42.11 | HoloIRCUser | *though |
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| 16:42.43 | HoloIRCUser | Is there any way i can rectify my mistake without any reprimand? Thanks |
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| 16:48.29 | js____ | HoloIRCUser: I'm not sure they can accept anything other than what you submitted. But I would contact gsoc support and your organization and see |
| 16:48.31 | js____ | ~support |
| 16:48.31 | infobot | [support] 877-794-8675\, or a brassiere, or a jock strap |
| 16:48.35 | js____ | !support |
| 16:48.35 | gsocbot | js____: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 16:48.37 | js____ | lol infobot |
| 16:49.25 | achillion | O.o |
| 16:49.53 | HoloIRCUser | If the organisation accepts the proposal, will it be fine? As my draft link is correct, i just messed up on the pdf part. :/ |
| 16:50.53 | wasiqm | We should rename gsocbot to something cool |
| 16:51.02 | wasiqm | Like mr.potato. |
| 16:51.16 | fr256 | wasiqm skynet? :) |
| 16:51.36 | wasiqm | No. Skynet is too overused. |
| 16:51.50 | fr256 | skynet2 |
| 16:51.58 | wasiqm | fr256, XD |
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| 16:53.24 | achillion | NotSkynet |
| 16:54.16 | achillion | AerialLatice |
| 16:54.24 | achillion | s/t/tt/ |
| 16:54.32 | meflin | lets try to stay on topic :) |
| 16:54.44 | Aerylia | Hi, the conversion site to what time the deadline was going to close for me locally indicated that the deadline would not be for another 5 orso minutes. However the submission is closed for me without having been able to submit my proposal. I was really really looking forward to having a chance of having my proposal selected. Is there anyone from GSoC here that can help?\ |
| 16:56.15 | js____ | so when do organizations request slots? after selecting students? |
| 16:56.23 | meflin | there are no extensions , the web site uses you local time but can be wrong |
| 16:56.26 | meflin | !timeline |
| 16:56.26 | gsocbot | meflin: "timeline" is (#1) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline, or (#2) https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/timeline |
| 16:56.45 | terri | js____: before, once theyâve had a chance to scan the proposals. I think we have to request by mid-april. |
| 16:57.22 | js____ | ok thanks terri, glad spam proposals have no influence on the slots assigned to any org |
| 16:57.53 | terri | js____: only good proposals influence the slots. even ones that arenât spam but are kind of mediocre donât usually do much! |
| 16:58.16 | Aerylia | Then, for next time, i would highly recommend having a countdown timer at the submission page. |
| 16:58.37 | Aerylia | The site uses UTC, but that is not my local time\ |
| 16:58.46 | Aerylia | But, thank you for the response |
| 16:58.50 | PulkoMandy | Aerylia: the submission period is open for two weeks, why did you take the risk of using only the last few seconds? |
| 16:58.57 | terri | Aerylia: there is a timer, and it tries to convert to your local time, but if your time zone is set incorrectly it can be wrong. |
| 16:59.14 | TinoDidriksen | Or if you're just using an untested browser, such as Firefox. |
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| 16:59.30 | terri | it catches a few people by surprise every year, sadly |
| 17:00.44 | PokerFace8[m] | hey. On what basis are the slots allotted to the orgs? |
| 17:00.44 | fr256 | terri despite warnings |
| 17:00.44 | Aerylia | I learned about GSoC too late and spent all day trying to make the deadline, otherwise, I would have delivered it yesterday to not have issues with the timezones... |
| 17:01.08 | terri | Aerylia: Oh well, thereâs always next year! |
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| 17:01.40 | Aerylia | Maybe, I might be graduated by then... |
| 17:01.50 | YourMomSiq | hey, how can I prepare for GSoC 2018 ? |
| 17:02.27 | YourMomSiq | I know to write hello world program |
| 17:02.28 | meflin | YourMomSiq: find an open source project you find interesting and get involved with it |
| 17:02.56 | YourMomSiq | meflin: Thanks, I started coding very recently |
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| 17:03.44 | YourMomSiq | I study at Yellamma Dasappa Institution of Technology www.ydit.ac.in/ |
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| 17:04.10 | terri | PokerFace8[m]: Google doesnât say explicitly since a bunch of factors go into the decision, but probably a combo of the information about what theyâve indicated they want to and can handle mentoring, how much experience the organization has from previous years, limits on the number of students the program can afford to hire and trying to distribute those slots fairly across many worthy students and orgs. |
| 17:04.47 | YourMomSiq | umeshksingla: are you single ? |
| 17:05.38 | meflin | YourMomSiq: that question is not appropriate |
| 17:05.42 | terri | YourMomSiq: not an appropriate question for this channel. |
| 17:05.49 | *** topic/#gsoc by ChanServ -> Google Summer of Code | Student Projects Announced May 4th, 2017 | https://g.co/gsoc |
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| 17:06.20 | YourMomSiq | terri: sorry terri ma ki |
| 17:07.13 | js____ | terri he just insulted you in hindi, it's a troll |
| 17:07.43 | terri | js____: I figured from the nickname, tbh |
| 17:07.56 | PokerFace8[m] | yes can we please remove such elements |
| 17:07.58 | js____ | oh yeah |
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| 17:08.12 | vy9 | hello, I was mistaken about the proposal deadline and couldnt submit my proposal on summerofcode.withgoogle.com. Submitted it on the organisations phabricator account. Can anyone suggest a solution? |
| 17:08.27 | meflin | there are no extensions you can try again next year |
| 17:08.29 | js____ | vy9 sorry, unfortunately no exceptions are made to the deadlien |
| 17:10.00 | PokerFace8[m] | terri: so does Google also have a look at the student proposals to decide worthy students? |
| 17:10.28 | yashg | I dont think so |
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| 17:10.29 | meflin | orgs choose there studentds |
| 17:10.57 | terri | PokerFace8[m]: orgs tell google which ones they feel are worthy (or at the slot level, how many they think are) |
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| 17:12.27 | vy9 | Is it possible for the orgs to send it to google on behalf of a student , if the student hasnt ? |
| 17:12.38 | singhaliiith | @meflin I missed the proof of enrolment in my GsoC application. I didn't know that deadline for both are same. I mailed regarding the same to gsoc-support@google.com. Is there anything I can do now? |
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| 17:13.03 | meflin | singhaliiith: you have done all you can |
| 17:13.08 | js___ | singhaliiith: all you can do is wait for a response from that e-mail, but don't have any high hopes |
| 17:13.21 | meflin | vy9: no each student uses the web interface |
| 17:13.45 | vy9 | okay |
| 17:14.33 | PokerFace8[m] | terri: okay. but after final decision on number of slots are made, then do only the orgs decide on which projects and which students are selected, or is google somehow involved? |
| 17:14.53 | meflin | just the orgs |
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| 17:15.19 | terri | PokerFace8[m]: Google leaves that up to the orgs |
| 17:15.45 | singhaliiith | @meflin Got "Unfortunately, the deadline has passed. If you are still eligible to participate next year we hope you apply again earlier in the process." Any chance now? |
| 17:15.54 | Benson | Hi, I submitted my draft and this was going to be my final copy. However I could not submit the Final copy because I had to convert it into PDF file. |
| 17:16.06 | meflin | singhaliiith: there are no extensions |
| 17:16.09 | terri | singhaliiith: Alas, there are no extensions. better luck next year! |
| 17:16.34 | terri | Benson: Youâve probably just missed the deadline and there are no extensions, but you can email support if you want to ask |
| 17:16.40 | terri | !support | Benson |
| 17:16.40 | gsocbot | Benson: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
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| 17:17.16 | js___ | !coffee |
| 17:17.17 | gsocbot | js___: "coffee" is over there, go take a cup. |
| 17:17.31 | ma08 | !next |
| 17:17.32 | gsocbot | ma08: "next" is student application ends on 3rd April 16:00 UTC |
| 17:17.46 | Benson | Okay, do I send them an email. |
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| 17:18.46 | PokerFace8[m] | terri and others :thanks for clearing that up :) |
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| 17:21.09 | meflin | !next |
| 17:21.10 | gsocbot | meflin: "next" is Student Projects Announced May 4th, 2017 |
| 17:21.30 | ma08 | meflin: nice :) |
| 17:22.07 | Randwa | !next |
| 17:22.08 | gsocbot | Randwa: "next" is Student Projects Announced May 4th, 2017 |
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| 17:22.54 | Randwa | What are the other commands ? |
| 17:23.20 | meflin | Randwa: you can play with the bot in /msg |
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| 17:27.35 | Randwa | tempo: Hi tempo traveller |
| 17:27.44 | ma08 | what happens if a student's proposals is accepted by multiple orgs? |
| 17:27.55 | ma08 | s/is/are/ |
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| 17:28.12 | meflin | ma08: there is a process to handle that, in the end you will only be accepted once |
| 17:28.39 | Randwa | Is it decided by google or orgs have to vote ? |
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| 17:29.13 | meflin | give or take some working together , whatever org chose it first wins |
| 17:30.12 | Randwa | meflin: thanks, is it possible that all orgs can drop the student ? |
| 17:30.27 | Randwa | if conflicting |
| 17:30.44 | meflin | before final selection ... I guess they could |
| 17:30.52 | meflin | after no |
| 17:31.20 | meflin | duplicate selections isn't something a student needs to worry about |
| 17:31.42 | Randwa | meflin: thanks! |
| 17:33.26 | Benson | About the enrollment, what about if I am still waiting to receive acceptance letter for the fall |
| 17:33.29 | js___ | ma08 I'd like to imagine the org admins rock paper and scissor it when a student is accepted by multiple orgs ;) |
| 17:33.53 | ma08 | you mean rick paper and scissor :P |
| 17:34.19 | Randwa | haha |
| 17:34.33 | js___ | :D |
| 17:34.50 | meflin | Benson: read the eligibility requirements in the faq |
| 17:35.19 | ma08 | nice to see r&m fans here too :) |
| 17:35.23 | js___ | Benson: if you're not accepted or enrolled by the time the coding period begins, you won't be allowed to participate |
| 17:35.33 | js___ | love rock and morty |
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| 17:35.53 | ma08 | :D |
| 17:35.53 | js___ | rick* |
| 17:36.31 | ma08 | rock and mortar will be the series in the rock dimension :p |
| 17:37.30 | Randwa | tempo: can you drive kid ? |
| 17:37.56 | Benson | js, Okay so by May 4th. |
| 17:38.03 | PulkoMandy | wonders if redirecting all these "missed the deadline" complaints to the support mail is of any use |
| 17:38.44 | meflin | lets stay on topic |
| 17:39.08 | ma08 | meflin: sorry. got carried away. |
| 17:39.17 | PulkoMandy | support |
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| 17:42.02 | js___ | PulkoMandy: I've only been recommending it for students who had issues with enrollment submission, but also telling them not to get their hopes up. I just feel like maybe they can be flexible with enrollment, but definitely not any late final proposal (especially since they allow resubmission of non-accepted enrollment verifications), but I could be wrong. :/ |
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| 17:42.29 | tkamppeter | What do I have to do to promote a mentor to be an org admin? |
| 17:42.42 | Randwa | work hard |
| 17:43.23 | meflin | !support |
| 17:43.23 | gsocbot | meflin: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 17:44.10 | singhaliiith | js___ Talked a lot on mail with Gsoc guys on issues with enrolment but they say it is important part of application. They said they can't do anything |
| 17:45.00 | js___ | singhaliiith: yikes, that really sucks. better luck next year! |
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| 17:46.42 | singhaliiith | js___ Well I am not much disappointed much. It is okay we can still complete the same project. |
| 17:47.22 | singhaliiith | js___ benefits of being in Open Source community |
| 17:47.44 | Randwa | single: true that |
| 17:47.45 | js___ | singhaliiith: true, I like your attitude towards this :) |
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| 17:50.27 | sttaylor | PulkoMandy: weÕve answered about 25 I missed the deadline. They all get the same answer. |
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| 17:52.20 | singhaliiith | js___ Thanks I hope all students who are applying for gsoc will have same not to do it for money but we all know that this is not the case. :( |
| 17:52.21 | js___ | ahhh, just recognized sttaylor from the Google Groups. kudos to you for being so patient with all the people on that group! |
| 17:52.26 | sttaylor | The deadline has passed. If you are eligible next year we hope you apply earlier in the process. |
| 17:52.52 | sttaylor | js_: there are a few of us answering the emails : ) |
| 17:53.11 | js___ | oh and the other people too :) |
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| 17:53.56 | js___ | singhaliiith: I don't see anything wrong with anyone doing it for money, so long as they complete their proposal and contribute in the end |
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| 17:56.27 | singhaliiith | js___ There is nothing wrong if they become regular contributor after that or atleast can answer any question about their section to some newbees. But in most cases I have seen attitude of freelancer not an open source contributor |
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| 19:02.18 | foowhiz | Has there been a deadline extension of sorts? |
| 19:02.34 | meflin | there are no extensions |
| 19:03.03 | foowhiz | That's what I knew, and I'd submitted the proposal on time, but my dashboard has a new countdown going on. |
| 19:03.27 | meflin | !next |
| 19:03.28 | gsocbot | meflin: "next" is Student Projects Announced May 4th, 2017 |
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| 19:03.35 | foowhiz | 7 hours 56 minutes remaining, and it says dues 0300, Apr 4, Magadan Standard Time. |
| 19:03.41 | foowhiz | *due |
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| 19:03.54 | meflin | its also possible your browser is mis-translating the time |
| 19:04.10 | foowhiz | Ah yes. It's configured wrongly. |
| 19:06.51 | achillion | that'll do it |
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| 19:47.40 | r0bby | pombreda: We DID get the proposal from your student LOL |
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| 19:51.25 | r0bby | Good luck to all those who applied. |
| 19:51.27 | r0bby | Godspeed! |
| 19:51.54 | ilv | the approval/rejection of proof of enrollment will be before may 4th? |
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| 19:58.41 | r0bby | ilv: nope -- will be the same time. |
| 19:59.07 | r0bby | Now, projects say how many slots they want |
| 19:59.34 | saurabhshri | ilv : Official statement from Google regarding the same "Google will be reviewing the proof of enrollment forms after April 3rd at 16:00 UTC. It will take Google Administrators weeks to get through the thousands of forms so do not worry about your form, you will be notified once the form is accepted or rejected. " |
| 19:59.35 | r0bby | after that, we then review proposals and pick X students, where X is the numebr ofslots |
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| 20:03.54 | ilv | i see, thanks |
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| 20:17.50 | pombreda | r0bby: a blood pulse scanner was more appropriate for your org. IMHO this is part of the "customer service" org admins can offer to some students that may be smart but confused |
| 20:18.48 | pombreda | r0bby: even if this one more for you and one less for me, this is for the better :P |
| 20:19.08 | pombreda | we have have our hands full alright |
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| 20:45.17 | valorie | hi - technical issue about the website |
| 20:45.40 | valorie | some of our proposals have no tag, and I can only choose between about 10 tags |
| 20:45.47 | valorie | none of which apply |
| 20:46.13 | valorie | as an admin, do I have any secret power way to add some tags? |
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| 20:53.16 | olly | valorie: there's a limited number sadly |
| 20:53.42 | valorie | oh dear |
| 20:53.47 | terri | valorie: they're defined in the org profile, so you can change them if they don't make any sense |
| 20:53.50 | olly | You specify them in the organization application, not site of you can edit now or not |
| 20:53.57 | valorie | not what I wanted to hear |
| 20:54.04 | olly | *not sure |
| 20:54.44 | olly | It seems unhelpful for umbrellas with more than 10 sub orgs |
| 20:55.07 | olly | And those tags seem like they mostly useful for umbrellas |
| 20:55.49 | olly | We specify then because we have to but ignore them otherwise |
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| 21:03.10 | olly | If we had more we could allocate one per idea (and one for "student idea") and they'd actually be useful |
| 21:04.21 | valorie | well, I'd settle for which team the idea is for |
| 21:04.30 | valorie | 10 simply is not enough |
| 21:06.13 | olly | Right but I mean currently they don't really work for anyone except a small umbrella |
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| 21:12.50 | CuriousErnestBro | pinh |
| 21:19.13 | jonorthwash | ponh |
| 21:27.30 | r0bby | pombreda: yeh -- we're not taking it |
| 21:27.52 | r0bby | I didnt even bother looking |
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