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| 00:03.27 | kanav | can anybody tell me how to contact with your gsoc mentors? |
| 00:05.29 | Ori_B | kanav: the org page will probably tell you. |
| 00:05.48 | kanav | ok |
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| 00:23.14 | r0bby | Ori_B: s/probably// |
| 00:24.02 | r0bby | The org page DEFINITELY tells you where and how to contact mentors :) |
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| 00:47.29 | CFS-MP3b | #join ccextractor |
| 00:47.41 | CFS-MP3b | oops, sorry :-) |
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| 00:49.06 | CFS-MP3 | Question to students... do you prefer slack or IRC? |
| 00:49.52 | downey | only 2 options? :) |
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| 00:58.21 | r0bby | CFS-MP3: I p;refer something not proprietary. |
| 00:58.30 | CFS-MP3 | downey, well, surprise me :-) |
| 00:58.47 | r0bby | Rocket Chat, Zulip, Mattermost |
| 01:00.02 | CFS-MP3 | r0bby yes but all of those require to install stuff... I think (could be wrong, I'm probably out of touch) many students will at least have a IRC client or slack installed already |
| 01:00.25 | r0bby | None of them require you install anything. |
| 01:00.40 | r0bby | They can all operate as a web application |
| 01:01.01 | CFS-MP3 | Yes, but I don't know of anyone who is happy chatting on a browser :-) |
| 01:01.16 | r0bby | shrugs |
| 01:01.31 | r0bby | If the students want GSoC bad enough, they'll figure it out |
| 01:02.46 | CFS-MP3 | Sure, but I prefer to make life easier for everyone where I can :-) Maybe there's a fantastic tool I haven't heard about |
| 01:03.18 | valorie | irc rulez |
| 01:03.56 | CFS-MP3 | valorie I agree, but I don't know if students still use it? Or is it just old timers like me? |
| 01:04.22 | valorie | they have to learn to communicate with the community they want to be a part of |
| 01:04.25 | valorie | imo |
| 01:05.00 | r0bby | CFS-MP3: There's Matrix as well |
| 01:05.19 | Ori_B | I'd probably say IRC. |
| 01:05.30 | valorie | right, matrix bridges to all freenode IRC channels |
| 01:05.42 | valorie | unfortunately it's a bit unsteady |
| 01:05.44 | CFS-MP3 | Valorie sure, but I don't want to say "it's IRC because it's always been IRC and that's it" :-) I mean, if there's something better we can just use it |
| 01:06.48 | CFS-MP3 | We currently use slack, which works well and is convenient, but it's not really ideal for open source |
| 01:07.00 | r0bby | Slack is a HORRIBLE thing for FOSS communities |
| 01:07.29 | CFS-MP3 | r0bby I know, I know, I didn't want to get you started :-) |
| 01:07.47 | valorie | I tried slack and don't see how it's better than IRC |
| 01:07.57 | valorie | given that it is proprietary |
| 01:08.09 | r0bby | CFS-MP3: eh, when have I ever been opinionated? I have no opinions whatsoever |
| 01:08.14 | valorie | that said, I do like telegram |
| 01:08.18 | valorie | r0bby: ROFL |
| 01:08.34 | valorie | but I'm trying to cut down my use of it |
| 01:09.33 | CFS-MP3 | valorie except for the proprietary thing, which I can't argue against obviously, slack is better than IRC in a number of things... there's clients for everything, they integrate with a lot of things, they take care of logging (this is both good and bad) and so on |
| 01:10.36 | valorie | sure |
| 01:10.45 | valorie | I use a bnc, and I log |
| 01:10.49 | valorie | so..... |
| 01:13.57 | CFS-MP3 | I know :-) But that requires you to have a bnc and you have the logs (assuming the bnc doesn't fail). Anyway I'm not trying to convince you of slack being better :-) Just explaining why we use it, but if students preferred IRC (which would surprise me) we could just go back to IRC |
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| 01:19.50 | *** topic/#gsoc is Google Summer of Code 2018 | Organizations Announced! | https://g.co/gsoc |
| 01:20.03 | r0bby | CFS-MP3: I assume you're a mentor |
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| 01:25.21 | CFS-MP3 | r0bby org admin and mentor, yes... |
| 01:25.29 | r0bby | Ah |
| 01:25.39 | CFS-MP3 | (for CCExtractor Development) |
| 01:25.45 | r0bby | That explains your comment -- you met me LOL |
| 01:26.37 | CFS-MP3 | Yes, I've been in a room with you even if we haven't talked much... this year I'll make sure to sit with you at lunch at least once :-) |
| 01:26.53 | mredigonda | valorie: I also like Telegram |
| 01:27.18 | CFS-MP3 | isn't telegram going corporate these days? |
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| 01:34.28 | r0bby | CFS-MP3: not involved with GSoC this year |
| 01:34.54 | CFS-MP3 | r0bby really? |
| 01:35.08 | CFS-MP3 | you personally or your org? |
| 01:35.14 | r0bby | Me personally, my org is |
| 01:35.41 | CFS-MP3 | OK... well, next year then if we both happen to be there |
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| 04:17.26 | danielmgn | Hi, if I am 17 and turning 18 during the summer am I absolutely ineligible for GSoC? Under what circumstance would a 17 year old be allowed to participate? Has this been done before? |
| 04:18.34 | olly | danielmgn: you need to be 18 to sign up, so your birthday needs to be before applications close |
| 04:18.53 | olly | which is March 28th this year |
| 04:19.10 | olly | (assuming the rule is as last year that is) |
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| 09:59.16 | vaneij | Hello, I'm contributing in a project for last two weeks and I find it quite interesting. I want to submit proposal in it. But I have not discovered other projects and organizations. So should I apply to two proposals in different organizations in order to increase my chance of selection in GSoC? |
| 10:01.03 | gevaerts | If you have the time, yes. A good proposal takes time and effort, and multiple proposals can lead to lower quality if you're not careful |
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| 10:01.30 | gevaerts | Two should be doable though |
| 10:02.59 | vaneij | gevaerts: Does multiple proposals means increase in selection chances? And secondly, I have to search for a second organization/project and then need to contribute. Then in this case, is it doable? |
| 10:04.45 | gevaerts | Organisations are independent, so if your multiple proposals are as good as a single one would be, then yes, it would increase selection chances. |
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| 10:06.00 | gevaerts | For the second question, I don't know. Some organisations will need more time to get to know well than others, and I don't know how much time you have. It depends... |
| 10:06.29 | gevaerts | Sending two proposals is fairly common though |
| 10:07.03 | vaneij | Thank you. But is it okay if I contact and start contributing to an organization now? |
| 10:07.19 | gevaerts | Of course |
| 10:07.40 | gevaerts | Start as early as you can |
| 10:08.33 | vaneij | And regarding the contribution, should my contribution into the bugs related to the project idea or it can be anything? |
| 10:09.28 | gevaerts | I suspect that's going to depend on the organisation |
| 10:10.22 | vaneij | Thank you so much. It helped. |
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| 10:10.38 | gevaerts | Always feel free to ask them |
| 10:11.44 | gevaerts | One often misunderstood thing about software development, and especially open source development (because it's often done by people from all over the world who don't meet in person very often or at all) is that communication is *very* important |
| 10:12.09 | Sid_573 | can beginners take part in Gsoc projects..?? |
| 10:13.37 | gevaerts | Depends on what you mean by "beginner". Many organisations have projects that don't require much pre-existing knowledge, but if you're still learning to program at all it's going to be very hard |
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| 14:06.58 | Guest681 | hello can i ask somthing??? |
| 14:07.31 | Guest681 | is there any one i am using this service first time |
| 14:08.38 | tbr | !studentguide @Guest681 |
| 14:08.39 | gsocbot | @Guest681: https://g.co/gsoc/studentguide |
| 14:09.09 | uhoreg | It's usually better to just ask your question instead of asking if you can ask |
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| 14:46.51 | Aniket | Hello |
| 14:48.31 | Aniket | I am having a problem as everytime I am trying to press the login button on the gsoc main screen, it is showing me that I am not logged in. Can somebody please help me out with the same? |
| 14:51.21 | mzfr | Aniket: I don't think you can login before student proposals start |
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| 14:54.36 | Aniket | @mzfr Okay and thanks |
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| 14:58.35 | mzfr | Aniket: your welcome |
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| 16:04.09 | RichiH | is gsoc mentor reg currently having issues? |
| 16:04.40 | RichiH | is stuck at Mentor Participant Agreement - click agree & next, i see a "Not found." in the lower right |
| 16:04.46 | RichiH | without any more information |
| 16:05.35 | meflin | !support |
| 16:05.35 | gsocbot | meflin: If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 16:06.59 | RichiH | meflin: thanks; i wanted to ask here first |
| 16:11.41 | meflin | RichiH: worked fine for me with chrome |
| 16:12.10 | RichiH | k, i will try again later |
| 16:12.12 | RichiH | thanks |
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| 17:29.21 | Blackheart_ | can we submit more than 3 proposals? |
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| 18:58.23 | PulkoMandy | Blackheart_: more than 2 proposals is unrealistic. It takes a lot of work to write a good proposal, you won't have time to make 4 or more of these. |
| 18:58.52 | PulkoMandy | Focus on one or two projects and write awesome proposals, this is much more likely to get you into GSoC |
| 18:58.53 | olly | PulkoMandy: disconnected already |
| 18:59.04 | olly | (and the limit this year is apparently 3) |
| 19:00.08 | PulkoMandy | indeed. I think a bug in my IRC client makes tab completion still work, interesting... |
| 19:00.18 | olly | curious |
| 19:00.50 | meflin | *cough* turn on part/joins ... but I TWAP myself for being offtopic |
| 19:01.13 | olly | the IRC client should know the current user list even with those hidden |
| 19:01.28 | meflin | valid |
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| 19:06.27 | *** topic/#gsoc is Google Summer of Code 2018 | Organizations Announced! | https://g.co/gsoc |
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| 20:52.02 | downey | Has anyone heard frustration from students RE: projects that use Slack for chat, about the need to manually request invitations? (I realize that some projects have automated workarounds for this.) I wonder to what extent (if any) such roadblocks/extra effort discourages potential GSoC students. |
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| 21:15.12 | sukhbir[m] | Is organization members allowed to take part in gsoc as a student..? |
| 21:16.13 | meflin | they are but it is prefered to recruite |
| 21:16.20 | meflin | also what is your bots name? |
| 21:16.21 | downey | sukhbir[m]: Generally, one goal for GSoC is to get *new* contributors to a project. But now and then existing contributors have used a GSoC project to be able to get more time to contribute, or do something bigger. This is up to the individual org/mentor. |
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| 21:20.52 | usd123 | Good to read that logs are enabled here, but how do I access them? |
| 21:22.06 | meflin | !logs |
| 21:22.07 | gsocbot | meflin: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 21:29.38 | usd123 | thanks meflin! |
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