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| 00:28.59 | CarlFK | are there written rules or guidelines concerning overlapping proposals? |
| 00:29.39 | CarlFK | I seem to remember rules like "one can't depend on the other" but I can't find anything like rules |
| 00:32.20 | olly | not sure if it's on the site - it's been said repeatedly on the mailing list |
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| 00:36.52 | terri | CarlFK: I thought it used to be in the FAQ, but I only see the "only an individual may work on a given project" answer there now. |
| 00:37.39 | terri | Which is sort of clear, I guess, but not quite as explicit as the "no student should be able to block another student from finishing" / "no project can depend on another project" |
| 00:37.46 | olly | the FAQ got a severe pruning a few years ago |
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| 00:38.50 | olly | you want the students to have a great experience, and having them blocked or worse failing due to another student having problems is bad |
| 00:39.27 | CarlFK | what about sharing common code? |
| 00:39.33 | olly | you'd end up having to fail them because of something someone else failed to do, or pass them assuming they'd have done well if that hadn't happened |
| 00:39.48 | olly | that doesn't already exist? |
| 00:39.53 | olly | i'd avoid it |
| 00:40.10 | CarlFK | like, one is doing a gui, the other automated testing. but both may share some api stuff |
| 00:40.32 | olly | if it's genuinely a trivial amount that either could write, maybe, but really you're better off not going there I'd say |
| 00:40.55 | CarlFK | agreed, just trying to work out what to recomend |
| 00:40.59 | terri | Or if you have to, be super explicit about what happens if one student disappears and what the expectations are. |
| 00:41.51 | olly | a few year ago we had a project where two students had sufficiently different projects to have close to no overlap and we decided to take both, making it clear that they must avoid ending up blocked on each other |
| 00:41.56 | terri | Basically, if you can plan contingencies so that no one suffers, it might be ok. If you can't, or it's stupid hard, it's probably a really bad idea. |
| 00:41.57 | CarlFK | yeah I get that part. I am trying to avoid the case of 2 students doing 1.5 units of work |
| 00:42.05 | olly | and we still managed to end up with one student thinking he was waiting for something from the other |
| 00:42.40 | olly | I'd say you're better to leave one of the projects to next year |
| 00:42.58 | olly | you can invite the student who did the first back to mentor |
| 00:43.03 | olly | good way to keep them involved |
| 00:43.23 | CarlFK | im not worried about blocking. they both can write the code. trying to figure out if we should tell them to both write their own code knowing that we will throw out the messy one. |
| 00:45.00 | CarlFK | the gui one will have a bit of ux wire frame design time |
| 00:45.49 | CarlFK | i suspect testing will get into incremental ... um.. agile stuff :p |
| 00:46.26 | CarlFK | there are lots of ways to mange this |
| 00:46.51 | CarlFK | just wondering if there are any rules I need to not break and get in trouble |
| 00:48.24 | CarlFK | I would expect to see: "2 students cant' submit the same code base." like 100% duplication. but do we need air gapped clean room whatever that is called, where they can't share IP? |
| 00:48.54 | olly | if you want official answers, email support |
| 00:48.56 | olly | !support |
| 00:48.56 | gsocbot | olly: If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 00:50.03 | CarlFK | yeah.. thats my last resort. I try not to bug them with stuff I can find out on my own |
| 00:50.21 | CarlFK | er, I try not to bug them at all |
| 00:51.40 | olly | well, you seem to be approaching this from "what's the limit of what I can do within the rules" and we can't really tell you that |
| 00:52.22 | CarlFK | thats ok - if they aren't published I'm guessing stuff gets evaluated on the fly. |
| 00:53.13 | CarlFK | righ now we are still trying to figure out what the stuff might be. I was hoping some rules would cut down out options |
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| 09:41.32 | eirien | hello! if I re-upload a proof of enrollment and it gets rejected, will I have another chance to re-upload? |
| 09:47.08 | r0bby | !support @ eirien |
| 09:47.09 | gsocbot4 | @ eirien: If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
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| 10:20.42 | eirien | uh, ok, thanks :) |
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| 13:38.57 | ritikrishu | Hi everyone! I am a working individual but I am currently enrolled in google India mobile dev scholarship. Does that makes me eligible to participate in GSOC as a student? |
| 13:41.33 | jn__ | ritikrishu: in any case you can't apply for this year's GSoC anymore |
| 13:41.53 | jn__ | the proposal submission deadline was a week ago |
| 13:42.20 | ritikrishu | oh fish! :( |
| 13:43.30 | ritikrishu | I am still curious what things fall into this criteria of student (other than college/school/universities) |
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| 14:05.20 | rekado | Hi, I was supposed to be a GSoC mentor like last year, but my GSoC account has since been deleted. I couldnât find a way to create a new account. |
| 14:05.26 | rekado | Could you tell me where I can do that? |
| 14:05.43 | teepee- | your org admin needs to invite you I think |
| 14:05.52 | teepee- | it's normal that the accounts don't carry over |
| 14:05.55 | rekado | ok |
| 14:06.03 | rekado | Iâll ask them. Thanks! |
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| 16:59.21 | hnspn | Hey |
| 16:59.42 | hnspn | Can we still apply? |
| 16:59.50 | hnspn | I would really love to join this year |
| 17:00.57 | tbr | sorry, better luck next year |
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