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| 04:51.03 | Sravanth | Python based organisations |
| 04:52.59 | Sravanth | I don't know how to write gsoc proposal can someone help me . Please.. |
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| 06:36.00 | Freso | terri: Considering that MeB at least has had one GSoC project merged and put in production before GSoC period even started, it'll take some to be the "fastest merge" record. :p |
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| 15:44.49 | kappa1 | hi! What happens if a mentor receives negative evaluation from his students? |
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| 18:03.17 | terri | kappa1: it depends on the organization. with Python, we have enough students that I group together any issues and feedback and tell the mentors as a whole so it's anonymized, plus we take note of specific concerns and either work with the mentors on them immediately or take them into account for future years |
| 18:05.50 | kappa1 | I am a student, but my mentor has not being much of a help. So I want to know if I can hurt myself (being at risk of not getting the stipend) in case I have negative feedback to the mentor |
| 18:06.57 | PulkoMandy | I don't think so, but it would be a good idea to discuss this directly with the mentor or reach out to the org admin beforehand |
| 18:07.06 | meflin | as an admin I want to know what students think |
| 18:07.07 | PulkoMandy | (in fact you should have done that as soon as you noticed the problem) |
| 18:07.38 | PulkoMandy | in our case it happened that a mentor went unresponsive due to unexpected issues on his side without warning anyone |
| 18:07.56 | PulkoMandy | the student didn't tell us either, and when he finally did it was too late to put the project back on track |
| 18:08.06 | PulkoMandy | so if you have problems, raise an alarm and get things solved |
| 18:08.51 | PulkoMandy | and if the org fails you because of things that are their fault, there is a procedure to get the case examinated by Google to get a fair decision. However, for this you have to be sure the problem is only on the org side. So, discuss with them first |
| 18:08.55 | meflin | not all mentors are well matched with students on a personal level either this needs to be fixed ASAP |
| 18:10.00 | terri | kappa1: We can't see your negative feedback until after the evaluations are closed, so you can't really hurt yourself. But you *can* help yourself because most orgs will be happy to find you a new mentor if you've got a relationship that isn't working for you. |
| 18:12.29 | terri | Not every person works perfectly with every other person, and sometimes there's just time zones or your mentor's job or whatever getting in the way so we're used to making changes to make things better partway through the year. |
| 18:13.47 | kappa1 | Yes, the only problem for me is that my mentor and other people working on the project are very unresponsive. I send emails to a dev list with more 5 people directly in CC, and it is very hard to get a reply from them. |
| 18:15.25 | terri | amusingly, last year when I had a student complain that his mentors weren't very responsive, I pinged them and they said "but he's doing so well that we don't have any feedback to add!" -- and the poor student didn't know that everyone was reading his stuff and just agreeing with it. |
| 18:17.32 | kappa1 | I don't believe this is the case. Because I am also asking open questions |
| 18:25.21 | terri | yeah, definitely contact your org admin and see if they can help, and giving that as part of your feedback is totally a reasonable thing to do |
| 18:26.24 | kappa1 | terri, but I am afraid that if I contact the org admin, he will tell my mentor, and then my mentor, as revenge, will make me fail on evaluations |
| 18:30.07 | terri | kappa1: That's... rather extreme, and very much against the spirit of the program. If it did happen, you could talk to Google as PulkoMandy mentioned. |
| 18:30.46 | kappa1 | ok thanks for the feedback |
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| 18:34.23 | olly | often the more people you CC, the less likely you'll get a response |
| 18:34.39 | olly | "oh i'm busy, there's 4 other people who can deal with it" |
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